We lost …. Reaction …. not Over Reaction

These are a selection of the comments posted yesterday in reaction to our home defeat to Chelsea

Big Raddy ……

5 minutes of naivety cost us the game.

Fairplay to Chelsea they defended very well and we did not create a single clear chance

We were really good in the second half and perhaps deserved a draw.

The return of Sanchez will be important and just because we lost today it does not mean we are out of the title race but today’s defeat hurt … a lot

Fatgingergooner …..

I thought we played well with 10 and you cant accuse the players of not trying. The sending off ruined our chances. poor decision by Merts. If we go 1-0 with 11 we still have a great chance to win the game.

It was tough to take but Sanchez looked good and Burnley next week to help get over it.

Gooner In Exile …..

The second Sanchez came on the pitch we had another dimension, Ozil came alive knowing there was at least one more he could work with at that level that very few can, both Alexis and Ozil draw defenders in and mainly keep it. The thing that Ozil does so well and that probably highlights the weaknesses of others is knowing when to release it and how to release it. He rarely plays a pass blind whereas so many others seem to judging by where the pass ends up, sometimes it’s better to keep the ball and try another angle than force a pass where one doesn’t exist.

So up side from the game is Alexis is back, upside from the weekend is we are still within 3 points of the leader and have both teams above us to play. So it’s in our hands.

We need to get out of this dip and go on a run of four or five wins.

Next 5 games, Southampton, Bournemouth, Leicester, United, Swansea. We will soon find out if we have the stomach for the title challenge.

Rockylives …..

We actually created quite a few half- and there-quarter chances even after going 0-1 down, but we didn’t have the composure to make the most of them.

Mesut picked a bad day to have a rare poor performance and Fabregas, who has been poor all year, looked much the better player.

Shard …..

Frustrated, but with some pride as well.

I don’t think we played very well. We played well enough to win, if we hadn’t been stupid for 5 minutes. Where was the midfield, why was Kos languishing rather than busting a gut to get level, and why did Per dive in? I would add that Costa went down without a touch, and that Clattenburg hence got it wrong, but that is besides the point.

Theo. Not a very good way to celebrate being captain. Once again a poor performance, and his lack of tecnhical ability is a real issue at times. Now that Alexis is back, I’d drop Theo, unless he’s playing through the middle. Poor Giroud. I wouldn’t have subbed him off, but the logic of going for speed over a target man is sound. I was furious that we conceded just a minute after that substitution. That piece of defending really annoys me. If we’d kept it at 0-0, I think we would have won even with 10 men.

Did anyone see a replay of the handball appeal we had just before the red card? I didn’t, and to me that signifies something fishy, because that is what used to happen earlier. Wrong decisions not shown on replay.

MickyDidIt89 …..

Completely agree with the importance of getting Coquelin and Sanchez back

If anyone had told me when those two first went injured, that two months later when they were returning we’d be level on points with City, and three points behind leaders Leicester, a. I’d have they were bonkers and b. I’d have taken it in a heart beat

Very disappointing today, but very much all to play for.

Also, I don’t think it will damage confidence one bit, as the team will understand the significance of those returning, and also the uphill mountain faced by any team going down to ten men so early in any match.

Peachesgooner …..

That was a very sad game of football although it’s fantastic to have Alexis back and amazing how Ozil and Alexis find each other.

Usual scummy tactics from Diego Costa. Per had already made me worried in the opening minutes where I’m sure his brain knew what he wanted his legs to do but somehow they couldn’t keep up with his train of thought 😦 Anyone think Gabriel would have started ahead of Per if there hadn’t been the history?

I’d love us to hold onto the ball better when moving forward, we just waste too many passes at the moment but hopefully Coquelin will steady the ship when he gets back.

Ozil ran and ran and ran, he must’ve be shattered.

On another day Flamini would have been a hero and scored one of his chances.

Still in the top four and three points off the top, all good really 🙂

LB …

I want to cry.

….. If you’ve got anything to add to those observations, join us in comments and have your say ……..

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116 Responses to We lost …. Reaction …. not Over Reaction

  1. chas says:

    Cheers, Rasp.
    I did think about doing the same thing and would have chosen exactly those comments. 🙂

  2. chas says:

    Fillums

    1. Elephant Man

    2. Cool Hand Luke (shooting the snake scene – also appropriate for yesterday 🙂 )

    3, Trainspotting (Spud has to fail a job interview, so takes some speed) (beware bad language)

    4. Network

    5. Murphy’s War (one of my favourites)

  3. Big Raddy says:

    Should have got Network.

  4. Big Raddy says:

    Thanks Rasp.

    I am more disappointed this morning than yesterday. Whatever the reasons we lost three home points and gave the Chavs hope.

    worst result possible

  5. chas mobile says:

    BR
    Getting a film from one still isn’t easy. It’s a fine line between making it too easy and too hard.
    Wouldn’t be much of a challenge if everyone got them all correct straightaway?

  6. Big Raddy says:

    chas. True and I am very grateful that you take the time to put them onsite. Livens up the old loaf pre-coffee

  7. Rasp says:

    As I suspected …. no-one wants to talk about the game 😕

  8. chas says:

    Sorry, Rasp.
    I was just clearing up the morning dragging down session for GoonerB.
    Some will be on to pick over that cadaver of a defeat in a bit.

  9. TotalArsenal says:

    Morning AAers

    We hate losing to the Chavs, especially when yet another CB gets sent off. This game came two weeks too early as our new troops were just not ready to give the old ones a break, and it showed. Sexy Alexis made a big difference though and with a bit of luck we would have drawn. It is just three points. We are not going to win the title playing majestic, all conquering football but we are very much in this; I have no doubt about that!

    This season is about winning the title on character mixed with occasional glimpses of real quality. I have seen enough, including yesterday, to believe we can go all the way, but you may want to take some travel sick pills as it will stay bumpy and twisty.

    Come on You Rip Roaring Gunners! 💥💥💥

  10. chas says:

    I think there needs to be a rule change.
    The sending off, for what turned out to be a dive, was far too harsh a penalty on us and ruined the game.
    You can’t blame Clattenburg for being fooled by the Spazilian ( 🙂 ) cheat, as Micky said, but losing a man so early killed the spectacle for all except the hideous chavs.

  11. Rasp says:

    No worries chas, and thanks for the super-fast widget updating 🙂

    Hi Total, your positivity is much needed this morning. I don’t know about travel sick pills – maybe Prozac for some and Chateauneuf Du Pape for others 😆

  12. chas says:

    I meant that Micky said you couldn’t blame Clattenburg.
    ‘Spazilian’ was BR, I believe.

  13. TotalArsenal says:

    Or some Jenever, best Dutch courage available! 😜

    We are doing this the ugly way, but I am not sure we should have expected much more right now given the injuries and gruelling Festive and post-Festive programme. Pool away, Orcs away and Chavs at home in a row was never going to be great.

  14. LB says:

    I thought my comment from yesterday would have been used up there.

    LB: I want to cry.

  15. Rasp says:

    I’ll add it LB – which comment were you referring to ?

  16. Big Raddy says:

    rasp. Too slow 🙂

  17. Rasp says:

    😆 … that comment ….. well done Raddy 😀

  18. GoonerB says:

    Morning all, once again I find myself agreeing and disagreeing with many of the general thoughts in equal measure. Also my analysis is based on my opinions across a longer period, not just a knee-jerk reaction to this one game. As such I do feel that there are long-standing issues, not realised or addressed, that have again put us at a disadvantage in this game.

    We made a good fist of it once down to 10 and generally looked like we were still in the game. Also, as many have said, we are still in a very strong position in the league and will still be considered one of the 2-3 key title favourites this year, so can realistically do it.

    On the flip side this is an unusual year for our other top table rivals, so I can’t help but think that we are not as good as we think we are just by looking at the current table. I know many point to other teams being stronger so the league is harder and more competitive. While I agree with that to a degree I still think it is more a crux to console ourselves with, a way of explaining poor performances and results.

    I do feel there is a standing still type complacency at Arsenal, a kind of satisfied with our lot and where we are rather than an ambition to try and push even further on while we are in the ascendancy. We normally are a reactionary club to what is happening elsewhere. We wait for other clubs to surge on ahead or wait till any background issues have actually started to hurt us before we react. By then we have normally been irreparably hurt in that given season.

    I fully expect that Chav’s, Citeh and Utd will not all continually have years like this collectively. Any of their title winning sides over the last 10 years or so, and the ones in the future, would likely be a number of points ahead now, which would effectively have already made us also rans this year.

    Unfortunately I feel our big opportunity this year is as much by default, (because of other teams all slipping up), as it is to do with any significant progress we have made. In truth I don’t feel we have moved on and developed that much.

    In that I agree with Cockie. Where I am not so in agreement is that we just need to spend £xxxx. I still feel our biggest issues stem from team set up, tactics, and the correct use of our current personnel. I think purchases are needed but I strongly feel that we often operate at 80-90% of our potential due to in-house reasons and decision making.

    It is these little things, these decisions, that will likely see us struggle with Barca, when I feel we have the squad to really give them a good go (albeit still as second favourites).It is also these little things that could just undermine us enough to fall slightly short in the title this year. It is these little things that make me worry about our ability to keep hold of players like Ozil and Sanchez.

    For that I need to look at Arsene and the coaching team. I know, I know….how can any blogger or anyone else know more than him?…. However, I still feel he (Arsene) has blind spots. Longstanding ones that weakens his ability to truly develop the team to its greatest heights. I feel he gets stuck at the final hurdle, and as such I also question whether he has in reality taken us as far as he can, and whether we do need younger fresher blood that can get us that last 10-20%.

  19. TotalArsenal says:

    GB 🙂

    OSAAT baby – One Season at a Time!

    I think you underestimate the impact of losing Le Coq, Alexis and Santi roughly around the same time and at a crucial stage of the season. On top of that Jack and Rosa were not available to fill the technical and inspirational gaps left by the former three.These are not ‘little’ things. I am absolutely convince that if we had had three out of those five available during the last two months we would be something like six points clear now.

    Wenger may not be perfect, but he squeezed a lot of points out of the squad over the last two months.

  20. Rasp says:

    Hi GB,

    Depending on my mood I will either agree with every word you’ve written or be Mr positive 🙂

    At the moment I’m Mr P as we can still win the league and since I don’t think we’ll be buying anyone else ready to go into the first 11, we have to make the most of our resources.

    I get what you mean about Arsene’s blind spots and tactics – but I think we know that is part of the package with AW, he’s not going to change now.

  21. GoonerB says:

    T.A, the problems that are evident, (as I see it), extend back a long while, even the last 2-3 seasons so it is not about who we lost 2-3 months ago. I feel we have areas that are our achilles heel and they go back a long way so in essence I feel we are not learning and progressing.

    I am a mix of positive and with reservations. I have reservations about our longer term progress over the next 2-3 seasons but I am still positive shorter term about the title potentially being ours this year.

    I do however feel we have a glass ceiling above us that we could break through but have been standing underneath looking at for a while.

  22. Morning GoonerB,

    I feel a debate is needed this morning so I’m going to disagree with a couple of your points! 😀

    You mentioned that we have a team capable of giving Barca a run for their money, yet you say our squad is not as good as the likes of Chelsea, City etc and that only their poor form is the reason we are near the top. In my eyes, Barca are a far better side than any PL team so it doesn’t make sense that we are good enough to give them a run but are behind the other PL teams in terms of quality. If we are that far behind then surely Barca are going to tear us to pieces!?

    The other thing I’m going to question is the idea that a new manager will take us forward. It seems to be a common theme that people believe putting ourselves in the manager merry-go-round is a positive step, but I don’t see much to prove that. The odds of us getting a great fit next time we look for a manager are slim, and it’s a massive gamble to take. You only have to look at the likes of United to see the problems that could face us when Wenger leaves. If indeed we are not at the level of Chelsea and City, then we won’t have the financial muscle to buy 4 or 5 new £20m players every time a new manager steps through the door and wants to change things. Also, if we are not at that level then we are not going to be looking at the likes of Guardiola coming through the door anytime soon, so we will have to get lucky and hope the board (who are often labelled as old and inept) can find the perfect young manager. That worries me. Obviously I understand that at some point soon we are going to need a new man, but personally I believe we have it far better now than some realise, and it will be a tough and bumpy ride once Wenger leaves the hot seat. My only hope is that the squad he leaves behind is so good that my mum could manage the team, a bit like what Guardiola left at Barca!!!

    One point I will sort of agree with you is the tactics. Our best football this season was actually with Ramsey playing wide. Coquelin is due back shortly so maybe we will see some changes in midfield. I do believe though that it’s harsh to judge Wengers tactics (this season) when we have been missing key players for long periods. You could actually argue his tactics have been excellent to keep us in the position we are in with limited personnel. In fact, earlier in the season he was praised for the 3 different ways we beat Bayern, United and Watford one after the other. The big difference then though was he had fit players!

  23. GoonerB says:

    Rasp, I don’t really believe in assessing through the immediate emotion. That leads to unnecessary doom reactions after certain losses but also leads to unrealistic optimism of where we are during good periods.

    Obviously I feel the elation and disappointment of every other Arsenal fan, but when I want to look at where we were, where we are, and where we are going I try and take the bigger picture. In my opinion we look like we are static rather than progressive.

    We will have progressed to a degree due to world class additions to the team, but where in the past I feel we have punched above our weight (credit to Arsene), I feel we have for the last couple of seasons under-performed relative to our current squad, and quality of player. That’s before we even talk about where to strengthen by the way, so my misgivings don’t have as much to do with the transfer market and money in the bank as others.

  24. kelsey says:

    Hundreds of match reports will have already been read by most, and beforehand despite their lowly position there was trepidation amongst most Arsenal fans to see if we could finally break this long running saga of not beating Chelsea,regardless who was their manager.

    We started off on the wrong foot and practically for the 18 minutes that it was 11 v 11 Chelsea definitely had the upper hand.IMO Mertesacker had to go regardless what the cunning Costa did or did not. Both players aren’t the quickest but THE INTENT was there to foul,and that was good enough for Pers to see red.

    So now a tall ask became even more improbable and within minutes that man Costa was quicker than our 3 defenders surrounding him and scored what amounted to be the winning goal.

    Not for the first time this season our players were being hustled allover the pitch and that led to uncharacteristic of many a ball being passed and finishing out of play,not that Chelsea were much better themselves.

    The contentious issue was that Giroud was taken off first not others who were having a really bad game.It transpires he had an ankle injury in training on Friday,missed training Saturday yet was deemed fit enough to play.A strange decision considering the importance of the game.

    The second half we were far more composed and our energy levels surprisingly seemed to rise and the introduction of Sanchez gave Ozil the player he needed yet despite some schoolboy defending by Chelsea we just couldn’t get a shot on target.

    The armband issue may have been a gesture by Mertesacker to give it to Theo in the tunnel to celebrate 10 years at the club, but unfortunately that back fired and yet again Walcott had a really poor players for one of our more senior players.On top of that, this out of form Chelsea side had the one man we feared the most but didn’t activate any strategy to stop him.

    Mertesacker may read the game well but has lost even more pace and we seriously need to look for a replacement or in fact have one already in either Gabriel or the new recruit from Egypt.

    All is not lost but 2 points from 9 in our last 3 games is not title winning form.

  25. kelsey says:

    re Walcott, should have read” and yet again Walcott had a really poor game considering he is one of our more senior players.”

  26. TotalArsenal says:

    Fair enough, GB. If you don’t feel progress was made over the last few seasons then that is your prerogative. The thing that you and I can only guess at is Wenger’s development plan and player paths for this squad. Key is to get better every season and I believe that has been happening.

    However, we can only talk about the season that we are in and I reckon you are not taking into account enough the unavailability of so many key players over the last two month. And if we had had them and we would have been say six points ahead, would you still be making the same points?

  27. Le Coq Monster says:

    LB may want to cry, not enough, I am crying…..still !.
    Only one way to get through that glass ceiling, GB !……spend some money on players to better or cover the one`s MIA.
    Companies do it !, financiers do it !, everyone does it !….hell even I do it by looking back at the history of the village bint to whether I rodger her !…….History !….., look back to history for trends and patterns and we have one almighty trendy pattern….our 5 years winning the injury league !.
    Wenger should have anticipated this perennial problem as most supporters did so and moaned about it before the first plaster was put on the wound at Arsenal NHS !…..does that mean we are more clued up than Arsene ?…..doesn`t he see the high viz flashing neon lighted baseball bat about to smack him in the mouth ?…………..I`ll say it again, he was very naive for such an inteligent man !

  28. Le Coq Monster says:

    Prediction !………………………next season we will have loads of injuries and not enough quality back up !.
    You read it here first ! ……………..yes I know, I make Nostradamus look silly !. hahaha

  29. Rasp says:

    Hi Kelsey 🙂

    Thanks GB, I agree about knee jerk versus calm analysis. Each one of us is at least 3 different kinds of supporter according to circumstance – the ‘shouter’ at the game, the ‘expert’ at the keyboard and the ‘bon-viveur’ down the pub and that may cloud our view at any given time.

    I take all your points seriously. I’m not calling for AW to leave as weighing it all up, I believe he is still doing a good job, but I only expect the type of changes you seek to be an option when the next manager takes over.

  30. GoonerB says:

    FGG, thanks for coming back. In all likelihood the points to debate will be over a few days, but then we would lose Chas 🙂

    I am absolutely fine with disagreement, in fact I welcome it because I always like to get an opposing view to see if it will change my mind. I know I am opposites on many issues with GIE and Shard for instance, but I still really enjoy reading their take on it, and don’t mind being in the minority opinion either.

    I think my view is somewhat misconstrued as well. I am not as pessimistic as I maybe make out but when I look at it overall I feel we are failing to make progress where we can. It doesn’t mean I feel all is wrong, don’t rate the manager, am not grateful e.t.c

    I agree that a new manager could see us go backwards from where we are. Similarly taking that brave step (which has to happen at some point) could see us move forwards even more. I personally feel Guardiola would get another 10-15% out of this current squad but there is no way I can prove this to be the case. Just my feeling. I don’t see many managers better than Arsene but my gut says Guardiola brings all Arsene’s qualities plus that little bit more. Not much, but enough to be make the difference in leagues and champions leagues.

    FGG,where Pep isconcerned are you saying that he was only as good as his inheritance, or are you in the camp of not being sure whether he is the top dog or has just been lucky, and is actually not quite as good as everyone believes? Not quite as good as Arsene maybe?

    An example of what I said being mis-construed would be in stating I said our team was not as good as Citeh, Utd and Chav’s but could give Barca a run, so it was contradictory. Not at all, and I didn’t actually say that. I said that in their title winning years these teams would have been ahead of where we are now. I think we are better than Utd and actually think we are slightly ahead of Chav’s but are on an equal footing (squad wise) with Citeh.

    Let’s not conveniently forget that Citeh have also suffered injuries and are playing for a manger with a guillotine over his head. Chav’s and Maureen, great as it was to see, were a conundrum. I really believe that the so called great man manager lost key players in the dressing room. It must have been a smack in the face to his own ego and mortality to realise that he couldn’t always rule the roost. Utd are a poorer side than us though IMO.

    I think we can give Barca a really competitive game but also feel Arsene will make 2-3 choices in the team that could undermine us. Ones he has made in the past.

    Also although we agree about tactics we would disagree on Ramsey. I don’t think it is him on the right that makes us play better. In fact I think we have better alternatives on the right within the squad and over a longer period trying toaccomodate Ramsey on the right will be more detrimental than good for us.

    Ramsey on the right is one of the longer term key issues as far as I am concerned, and falls within the category of players played out of their best position. When he plays from the right he vacates a central position to someone else. Could it be that it is the other player now playing centrally that has improved us and not actually that our right flank is stronger. I rate Ramsey but I think he is one that is regularly mis-used.

    I think our best game was against Utd, yet Arsene has not really replicated that set up again. Why not, when we played so well and fluidly? The set up that day seemed to compliment all our best players.

    I still think Arsene has an ideology and a preference for certain players and certain types of players that means we often put out a less balanced team, and little attention is payed to whether certain types of players are better for certain games regardless of current seniority.

  31. Le Coq Monster says:

    Rasp believes Wenger is doing a good job with the players he has !. I wonder whether another manager would do a better job with them…or not !.
    How I see players is that they all need to put a shift in whoever they are. Poncachino makes the Spud players do double training shifts and after 167 games from the EPL and EL they are still not running out of steam or getting as many injuries !. As someone who is part of a running club, I know that the only way to get quicker at races is to put in the speed workouts to gain stamina and for quicker times so it`s possible that footballers need something similar and the spuds and every club we seem to struggle against seem to work that much harder !……maybe thats why the EPL is so open !……lesser teams are putting in a shift every week !.

  32. Rasp says:

    Hi Cockie, did you read my previous comment mentioning keyboard ‘experts’? 😆

    Its funny you should cite putting more physical effort into training as a possible way of making the players fitter. Raymond Verheijen, the self publicising fitness guru has been an outspoken critic of AW in relation to soft tissue injuries. He has been saying the opposite = that we train them too hard and that leads to fatigue and increases the likelihood of injury.

  33. GoonerB says:

    I find the Walcott situation an interesting one Kelsey. I get that many don’t rate him, yet many of these would be people who have lauded how dangerous he is in the past and been terrified when he got injured. I agree he has been off colour recently but again are we using him effectively, from his best position, or is just being a gap plugger to accommodate other preferred players.

    Arsene bought him to develop as a striker, Walcott wants to be a striker. He made a good fist (not exceptional I agree) of it when given the opportunity earlier this season and had (Sanchez aside) a MOTM performance against Utd, when coincidentally we played our best and most attacking football. I would have thought that was enough to at least play him more in the role, but it is seemingly back to Giroud at all times again.

    I am not actually anti Giroud and pro Theo (in terms of the permanent answer for striker) but there have been games where the pacy striker would be better but no, still Ollie, with Theo on the wing.

    His limited technical ability has always been the case so why it is so used against him now I don’t know. He is what he is. That lack of technical ability will always be more evident when he operates from deeper with opposition players in front of him. His attributes all point towards being less on the ball but having key explosive and dangerous moments, i.e that of a striker. Many top strikers have come and gone with Theo’s skill set or lack of it in certain areas.

  34. GoonerB says:

    On paper we look far better than the spuds both 1st 11 wise and squad wise, yet we have really struggled to look a decent football team against them over the last 2 seasons. Why, when we are the superior team player for player?

    We have ground out some results but it hasn’t disguised that we have often looked 2nd best to them, and it pains me to say it.

  35. GoonerB says:

    Really must go.Will catch up with other comments later.

  36. Le Coq Monster says:

    Who knows what to do Rasp ?…………………….you could probably get 10 fitness experts and each one have a different opinion !.
    From personal experience I know that my performance relates to how I feel on the day, which can relate to what I`ve eaten or even particular time of the day, chuck into the mix weight, different body types etc` and it`s just black and white……for instance I did an 8 minute plank on Saturday, but today was struggling to do 5 mins !……………………I know !….should come natural to a natural plank !. hahaha

  37. Le Coq Monster says:

    Read my comment, GB ……they were superior fitness wise and also the little thing of tactics !
    IMO a team of average players with superior fitness and disciplined tactics will always beat a team of talented Arshavins !

  38. Not sure if this continues the debate or responds in any way to what you put GB, but here’s my take on things! 😀

    I think a lot of the issues you have with tactics this season comes back to injuries. 2 games after the United game we lost Ramsey, then 2 games after that we lost Walcott, so it’s easy to see why we haven’t played like that since then. Not long after that it was Coquelin, Cazorla and Sanchez who went down. I’m sure you already know this though, and it’s an old debate regarding whether it’s tactical ineptitude or injuries that often see us underperform in games.

    Personally, I think it’s a bit of both. It’s hard to blame Wenger for not producing our best football when his best players are constantly unavailable, but then on the other hand I think what has often let him down in the past is the quality of the back up in the squad (although I don’t agree with that argument anymore because this is a very strong squad we have now and you can’t have 30 top players in your squad and keep them happy) and his loathe to change tactics to suit opposition, especially when he has players out injured (which I think is part of the issue you have with him?).

    Ultimately I believe the squad has improved massively in the last 2 seasons when he has had money available, and I still believe we are heading in the right direction under Wenger. Could progress be quicker and smoother? Of course, especially if players stay fit, but all in all progress and challenging is all I ask for and I think we are getting that at the moment.

  39. kelsey says:

    GB

    I openly admit that over the years I haven’t changed my mind over Walcott and despite numerous injuries I just don’t see him as a central striker as he just doesn’t have the attributes for that role.

    I still think in a footballing sense he is too nice yer his latest deal grosses him 140K a week and though I agree he scored a great goal against United he lacks consistentcy as do others.Is Giroud the answer? He has certainly improved and his goals against appearances is twice as good as Theo’s.
    Neither is perfect if we are judging very fine margins in either winning or coming second in the league.

    I will never understand the business side of football as long aas I live,it’s a business run like no other.

    Randy Lerner was going to sell Aston Villa, now if they probably go down the club gets a parachute payment which is worth more than selling the club.

    Charlie Austin gets relegated with QPR has just been sold for 4 million but is on 100K a week, the world has gone mad 🙂

  40. RC78 says:

    Hello to all and thanks for the fine post and comments

    I think that we did not lose the title yesterday but against Stoke and Liverpool…that said, we should never have lost vs a weaker Chelsea.

    Again – this game exposed our major weaknesses on the spine of the team: Metersacker + Flamini

    BFG is a good defender but he is no Adams, Campbell, Terry or Kompany. He has some good attributes but he is not good enough to give us the solidity needed at the back. No news to me as I have been crying for another CB for a long-time. I hope that AW will splurge now on a quality CB with pace and physical presence as well on top of what a CB should be good at. An interim solution would even be someone like Shawcross whom we all hate but who is solid…

    As for Flamini, the poor guy is doing his best but against big teams, he gets drowned despite all his efforts. I would have loved to see Flamini – El Neny – Ramsey in the middle yesterday just to keep Fab out of the game…

    Anyways – until we resolve these defensive issues, we will not win the EPL title. I look at Tottenham and I am very worried – they are now scoring fine goals and their defense is just very solid so while everyone talks about Leicester and City, I can see the Spurs going for it and being hard to beat…

    Anyways – now it is time to regroup and win. Again, 82 or 84 points should land the title this year so all is not lost…

  41. RC78 says:

    and again, Gabriel showed that he needed more time to adjust to the EPL but he can get there so I am not worried about him…

  42. RC78 says:

    Cech – Bellerin, NEW, Kos, Monreal – Ramsey, NEW – Ozil – Walcott, Giroud, Sanchez

    Ospina – NEW, Chambers, Gabs, Gibbs – El Neny, Coquelin – Wilshere – Ox, Wellbeck, Campbell

    -> Garay, Carrick, Coleman and our team is ready to fight for the EPL

  43. RA says:

    Good Day, one and all, 🙂

    I find myself echoing you, GB, in that I totally agree with you, and yet I totally disagree with you, except when I do not what to make of what you are saying, and then I reserve the right to shut my eyes until you go away. I hope that is as clear as your comment. 🙂

    Someone said earlier – maybe GB – that Cockie-Doodle was wrong to say the solution to our problems is £xxxx.
    In fairness that is just another way of saying that, our defensive midfield which continues to be a nightmare because we do not have one, needs to be reinforced, well at least until Cockie’s younger self, Le Coq, is back and match fit, and if El Nenny who is being held on the bench at the moment is judged fit and is as good as we are all hoping he is – but who knows when either will be ready?

    In addition, it cannot be denied that Flambo and Rambo are like a custard and beef sandwich – Yuk – and with other ageing and injury prone midfield players like Mikel and Ros chomping at the bit on the treatment table, i cannot believe anyone can say the team and the squad are ‘fit for purpose’. Sorry – but that’s nonsense.

    How d’ya like them potaters? 🙂

  44. fatgingergooner says:

    RC78,

    You say Gabriel needs time but then call for us to sign another CB. Its a fine balance. I think the hope is Gabriel becomes Merts successor and then we either let Merts go and buy another CB or Merts becomes 3rd/4th choice.

    I must admit I do like the idea of us having a powerful, quick CB, but I think Gabriel is going to be given the opportunity to prove he can be that man before we see more major additions.

    Also, you said this

    ‘I think that we did not lose the title yesterday but against Stoke and Liverpool…that said, we should never have lost vs a weaker Chelsea.’

    This isn’t just aimed at you, but I find it baffling that Arsenal supporters choose to write off the teams chances whilst they are in the thick of a title race. Others were doing it yesterday aswell. It may transpire that we don’t go on and win the league, but why not just enjoy the ride. If we are as buggered as certain fans think we are then we may not get many title races to enjoy in the future!!! 😄

    It’s not going to be smooth sailing and this season has shown we are not going to win 15 games straight, but we do have key players returning and we have a great chance to win the league so let’s just go with the flow and enjoy the excitement.

    Who knows, we might actually do it!

    If we don’t, being able to say ‘I told you so’ will be no concelation anyway!

    😄😄

  45. fatgingergooner says:

    RA,

    I think it’s fair to assume that the Rosicky, Flam, Arteta situation will be dealt with at the end of the season and not in this January window. So whilst I agree the squad is not perfect in the long run, it’s good enough to win the league from this position. Hopefully Elneny will play a blinder against Burnley and we can forget the Flam/Ramsey partnership. ‘Yuk’ doesn’t do it justice! 😄

  46. Le Coq Monster says:

    Mikel Artery blockage, Tom Sickyroom, Jack Wheelchair and Danny Wellcrocked…..be interesting to know how many times this lot have played since the purchase of Wellcrocked !………………………hence the need to spend money !.

  47. GoonerB says:

    FGG, you have correctly identified some of my issues.

    Not adapting to other teams (especially the better ones). either through what we don’t have from injury or just because we are facing another top team who are very dangerous so it would be arrogant not to pay attention to it.

    As such I don’t dismiss the injury issue hampering his choices. Having said that I have noted that even when we have very few injuries we still seem to have dis-jointed performances with players (in my mind) not playing in their best positions, despite all 11 players looking excellent individually on paper.

    In fact last season I felt we were looking at this situation because we had too many players to choose from and AW didn’t know how to accommodate them all together. We actually had an upturn in performances last year when a few injuries hit us and therefore his hand was forced in who to play.

    That is why I can’t always subscribe to it only being down to injuries because I feel we are historically prone to unbalanced teams and dis-jointed performances even without injuries.

    We seem to struggle against high press teams. Barca is more understandable but I think we always struggled with Dortmund from a few seasons back who played the high press so it is not a new weak point of ours. Good side then Dortmund but again on paper an equal rather than a superior.

    This season we have struggled (both performance wise and results wise) against the likes of Liverpool, Spurs and Southampton. All moderately decent sides who play a well organised high pressing game, but not as good as our team or squad on paper. There never seems to be a tactical change to counter these sides and my issue is that if AW isn’t changing it now, having had a problem with this style as early as a few seasons back, then it tends to indicate he won’t do in the future.

    The problem is there are more well organised high press teams operating that way in the EPL now, so what does this mean for us moving forwards. Upcoming games with Saints and Spuds will be interesting.

    I agree that the squad has improved but how best to utilise it hasn’t quite matched the squad improvement IMO.

  48. RA says:

    FGG,

    I agree with you that writing off our chances at this stage when we have a lot to play for does not make sense – but that sort of comment is generally the result of bitter disappointment, and those who make those comments will soon forget them and again be just as hopeful that we will the title.

    There are are also those who take the opposite position, and say things like – if only we had 11 men we would have beaten them – which is akin to saying if only my auntie had bollocks she would be my uncle. Mmmm.

    I don’t mind the comments themselves they are simply defensive rationalisations to help soften the blow of an unwanted loss to a crap team who have now taken 6 points off us in their worst season for years. Mmmm, again.

    You were right earlier on, and I’m glad to say I am with you, when you said, in as many words, that part of the fun/experience in following and supporting a team is the personal enjoyment and despair in the victories and the losses – with hopefully more of the former, and the better the team, and the closer to achieving a title, the more intense that internal feeling becomes – it is an addiction.

    It must also be true for a supporter of a mid-table, no-hoper team where the losses still hurt, and the victories still bring pleasure, but all the time knowing they are really just interested spectators of the thrilling, helter-skelter chase between the leading contestants for the title(s).

    That joy/despair/excitement does it for me. We will win the league – otherwise why bother getting so pointlessly uptight? 😀

  49. GoonerB says:

    Kelsey, your 1.50 highlights a slight issue I have with stats telling us what we need to know. “Giroud’s goal to appearances tally is twice Theo’s”. Is that goals to appearances in all appearances or only when comparing Theo’s appearance time at striker.

    I have a problem you see comparing them if you are flinging in his time spent as a wide player, as I think you cannot compare it. How many would Ollie score operating from a wide role? A bit pedantic, I know because he can’t play there, but I think we have to be more accurate if we want to compare Theo and Ollie on stats.

    Taking it further goals to appearances (only at striker) may not even tell us the whole story and maybe goals to minutes played could be more relevant.

    Then there is the observation (that stats don’t always reveal of how the team actually play with each of them and how well the other players play with each of them…..and…..ahhhh…..gets very confusing and headache inducing kelsey…..suffice to say that I think there has been some observational evidence (not irrefutable) that Arsenal play better with a quick striker, at least at some times in some games…..if we were adapting tactically to those games that is 🙂

  50. GoonerB says:

    Afternoon RA. Hope you are well. I am glad you are in a flux of agreeing with me while not agreeing with me in your lack of understanding of what the hell it is I am trying to say and closing those sparkly blue eyes and hoping it will all disappear 🙂

    I actually agree with Cockie that some spending is required but maybe just not quite as much as he would…..or on as many players.

  51. RC78 says:

    Gabriel’s profile is similar to Koscielny, not BFG.

    I think Gabriel is actually Kos’s back-up option and that Chambers is supposed to become the next BFG (upgraded, hopefully).

    In any case – I hope we go for a back-up at CB.

    For me – I must admit – the best surprise is Bellerin. I did not think he could cope with the EPL demands but he has been mostly brilliant this season. Am very impressed

  52. RA says:

    Agree/disagree, with Cockie-Doodle, GB?

    In the final analysis what does it matter? They are only opinions, and in the case of value judgements, very few are backed up with ‘facts’,
    and how could they be – so the comments that revolve around “I would only pay £xx” or “he’s not worth £yy” mean what?
    No one outside the rarified atmosphere of the Arsenal boardroom know how much they are prepared to pay and that is the only fact that matters. Isn’t that so? 🙂

    Occasionally someone like Mystic Meg back up there opinions with statistics, and when they do, it usually results in the ‘statistical facts’ becoming the issue, rather than the sentiment behind them.
    (See your 4:28 response to Cassandra Crystals’ 1:50 comment – but be careful – when he twiddles his balls, he is usually right!. 🙂

    You, on the other hand, stick like a limpet to your wholly unsubstantiated judgements, which in itself is an admirable trait – someone who is worth having as a friend 🙂 and whereas my embargo on talking about Theo remains, I fear you may be on a sinking ship, but fear not, I will throw you a lifebelt when you finally realise you are holed below the waterline. 🙂

    Finally, Cockie is a genius, in his own way, but does not get the credit for his insightful analyses, probably because he dresses them up in his own brand of humour. He does often reflect the opinions of many other bloggers, not necessarily on this site – and I always look out for the nuggets to be found in his utterings. 😀

  53. GoonerB says:

    RC, I tend to agree with your thoughts regarding the CB.

    Per is an imperious defender at times and I for one would keep him because across a season he will be a valuable player and his experience is likely very useful in and around the club.

    However I think the brand of attacking football that we are known for, and aspire to take even further, dictates that the CB’s can end up more exposed than other sides who player a deeper more compact game. I think there are games when 2 quick CD’s are required and Sunday was one of them. Another one, for instance, would be against Barca and I think we may be in a spot of bother if we don’t line up with 2 quick CD’s.

    For me against the better sides if Per pushes up he is prone to getting caught out with the space left behind him and the result can be what happened on Sunday. I would suggest that Gabriel would have got to that ball and seen out the danger rather than having to go to ground because the foot race was being lost. If Per sits deeper to reduce the space behind him then either the whole team sits deeper to line up with him or there is too much space between him and the midfielders and FB’s.

    Often when you see an opposition player get played in behind one of our advanced full-backs in an onside position I feel the only reason they were not offside was because the deeper sitting Mertesacker has played them on.

    I don’t know many top teams that will line up with a lack of pace at the back and upfront as well. Personally, because we are a top team trying to play a more attack minded game, I feel it harms us with how we then try and play.

    Neither are conducive to allowing us to firstly push up as a team from defence with less risk, or playing incisive quick football on the ground as we go into the final third. I think our whole shape is at odds with how we really want to play and also how players like Ozil and Sanchez have been developed to play at their best.

    I am all for a bit more direct football at times but I have watched with dismay, particularly against high pressing teams, how we seem to become a more mid table EPL British side with lots of balls floated towards the bonce of the ponce in the hope of a nodded down header.

  54. akinzo says:

    The gloom that has engulfed us Gunners in Nigeria since the defeat to the chavs yesterday is yet to vaporise. I am barely trying to be up and doing nearly 24 hours after. It was so painful losing to the wobbly chavs. I have read a lot of comments here and I am not surprised at the varying opinions. Some have actually identified per as the culprit. Yes, we all know his pace is suspect but the error was from the midfield. Where he was culpable was going full throttle for the tackle. I again don’t agree with those who believe the loss is the end of the title chase. As vilified as Wenger is I want to go with him in believing that the impending return of our players out will rejuvenate the team for the rest of the season. We all saw how good the team looked during the second part of last season. Only a few seem to realise how good the team is and if Welbeck can return back fit and ready to go he will bring a fresh dimension to our play. He is a player that is a breed between Giroud and Walcott and my guts tells me he could turn out our joker. We all saw a glimpse of the energy and directness of Sanchez in his cameo and it’s one of the positive attributes injury has robbed us off since November. We will definitely be better off now that he is back. Flamini is trying his best but we know his limitations and with Elneny now on board coupled with the imminent return of Coquelin who was one of the outstanding players of the second part of last season we are good to go.

  55. Big Raddy says:

    Akinzo. Fine comment. Thank you. Good to know that Nigeria is as depressed as the most of Europe 😀

  56. Le Coq Monster says:

    I think we should spend a fortune on this player !.

  57. GoonerB says:

    Redders, opinions, morning cat videos, and film quizzes are all that keeps the blogging world turning.

    You are right I am on the sinking ship Walcott. My stance is the same as it always was, in that I don’t profess him to be “the” answer to our strikers position, just that I would have liked to properly found out one way or t’other.

    That would require AW to play him there, and not just fleetingly but with the conviction that he will get a run of games and believes in him. As we have seen certain games come and go that have cried out in my opinion for pace up front, and he has opted to line up with Giroud with Theo shunted somewhere out wide again, I don’t see it materialising that he will get that opportunity.

    In that case what is the point of Theo at Arsenal? We may as well just sink the ship entirely.

    Sorry to say it but I feel the same as Micky in that I rate Giroud as a very good player. probably the best big slower traditional CF out there if I am to be generous and fair.

    I just don’t think Arsenal should be lining up with a big slower traditional CF on a regular basis and feel it is hamstringing us from progressing to a more polished and fluid style of attack. I make no bones that I feel we should be looking towards a trio of mobile quick goal-scoring attackers as the other big sides in Europe adopt. I call it my litmus test. Have I mentioned it to you before? 🙂

    Others feel differently on this subject I know ( and I notice I have scared them all off today 🙂 )

  58. GoonerB says:

    Brilliant comment Akinzo. Hard to disagree with any of it.

  59. GoonerB says:

    I like that video Cockie. I have kept an eye on him even when he was more forgotten and lost on loan in the Spanish 2nd division. He definitely has something about him. He would have been written off as a failed project a while back but maybe there are similarities with Le Coq and he will come back to us and be successful bringing a different dimension and option to us.

    Looks a good option at left as Sanchez understudy, but then I always felt that would be AOC’s best position and hoped to see him given a go there. AOC is another that I am not sure we utilise in the right way and as such a large swathe of fans feel is failing. Goes into the hat in that sense with Walcott, Jack and sometimes even Ramsey.

    Anyway I promise to bugger orf if Chas will come on with some uplifting videos.

  60. RA says:

    Nice try, GB, but I am still not getting into that revolving door known as Theo chat! 🙂

    I don’t suppose you have kept a copy of Sunday’s game – but this mythical ‘pace’ of Theo’s just never happens. Whenever he gets the ball he miscontrols it, on one occasion he ran with the ball 10 metres, straight into a defender, on another he was outpaced by Azpilicueto, and any other touches he had he quickly checked back, and passed it to another Arsenal player, even when he was in a better position.

    Sorry, I cannot remember Theo running with the ball, and outpacing the defence – but poor old Ox, when he came on, quickly charged up the wing outpacing the said Azpilicueto and dribbled into the penalty area – and then messed up – but he really has pace and can dribble.

    Of course, without the ball, Theo can run diagonals hither and thither, but into all the wrong places.

    Not that I am making a comment on Theo, you know – just that you are nice and I feel for you!

    Incidentally, Arsene agrees with you and has often said Theo is wonderful, and could be a great CF — I think he is lying! 😀

    Tomorrow.

  61. Le Coq Monster says:

    Me too GB !……I like to keep an eye on our loanees and most the time I look they are either on the bench, being subbed or getting stick !.
    Wellington has definately got the skills, but I`m looking forward to his first bit of panic defending when Redders shouts from the stands….” Wellington Boot It ! “…..groan….

    So Redders !…….what`s your take on Theo…..Snog, Marry or Avoid ?.

  62. GoonerB says:

    Brilliant Reddders, Firstly this :

    Nice try, GB, but I am still not getting into that revolving door known as Theo chat! 🙂

    Then a whole analysis and chat on Theo. 🙂

    Actually I tend to agree that his dribbling at players can go awry at times, although I saw some stats a while back that had his completed dribbles very high. Can’t remember where. Rather than have him dribbling at people perhaps he should only be played in a position where he doesn’t have to carry the ball so far with less players between him and the goal but where?? Mmm tricky one.

    I also notice his pace is not quite what it was and the Ox seems to have more of it these days. Perhaps he sacrificed some for a bit of strength and bulk as I remember him out-muscling Hutton (as he is often referred to as lightweight) and getting a penalty.

    He is still pretty nippy but maybe the ratio of pace to muscle bulk is more balanced now. Who knows? Anyway I am not getting into any Theo chat, but nice try anyway my Machiavellian friend 🙂

    I would have loved to see AOC played from the attacking left in Sanchez absence but that ship it seems has sailed and he is apparently earmarked to be the new StevieMe even though to me they look completely different players with completely different skill sets..

  63. GoonerB says:

    I can answer for Redders Cockie. He definitely wants to marry him but would like a first date and snog first.

  64. GoonerB says:

    Le Coq, how is the lad Torral doing at Birmingham. It sounds to me like he is getting regular playing time and doing pretty well.

  65. Le Coq Monster says:

    He`s one of the pluses+

    Not bad tekkers !.

  66. GoonerB says:

    Mmmm, nice Cockie. I wouldn’t even mind the long balls to Ollie if he was running onto the knock downs 🙂

    Not heard much about Chuba. Is he injured or riding the pine?

  67. Some great comments today all and thanks to Rasp for plucking some of yesterday’s for a post.

    We need a post for tomorrow if anyone has any ideas ……

  68. fatgingergooner says:

    I’m sure I read that Wenger really rates Wellington Silva. Looks like he’s got some tricks up his sleeve.

    There is a distinct difference between being fast and being fast whilst controlling a football. One of the reasons Messi is such an amazing player is that he can run faster with the ball seemingly glued to his foot than some defenders can run without it. Theo, on the other hand, cannot! His touch is clumsy when he’s dribbling and he often runs into defenders or out of play. This is why I have to agree with whoever it was earlier that said he’s best playing as a CF. He’s better at playing on the shoulder and getting onto through balls. Also, I’m not sure he has the football brain required to be involved in the build up play with the likes of Özil and Sanchez. He should play CF or not at all imo (unless we have injuries).

    Does anyone think he’s lost a yard of pace since the knee injury?

  69. GoonerB says:

    Hey FGG, probably me that said it as I have actually said far too much today. See how it had everyone scarpering for cover 🙂 you were one of the few brave souls that indulged my rantings and conversed with me. At any rate FGG I agree and RA made mention of Theo’s pace not being what it was as well.

    Anyway night to all.

  70. Aaron says:

    I am leaving this one late to calm down and write something value added.
    1st Mert has only 2 red cards in his career-yes the hundreds of games he has played. He is not an idiot, nor is he solely culpable for the sending off. Yes- he got sent off, but it was lack of a mid spine that got him into trouble, placing him in a foot race and that is not his cup of tea. Wilian is a wonderful player, wish Arsenal had him, that ran through our mid all game long, even when 11 X 11. The space that he an flub had was atrocious. Someone on another site posted data that before Coz and Santi went out we had 16 shots per game and conceded 11, now it is flip flopped. It is because Arsene’s hands are tied. The continuity and flow of passing is long gone, replaced with patches and splinters of brilliance, by Mesut. This places our D line in a precarious position of playing a high line, offside trap without cover. Flamster gives it his all, but has not pace, Ramsey thinks he is a CF, and Theo runs around with his head misplaced. They do not function as a unit and our team has been found out. Until Coq, and Santi or Eleny come into play, our team will be disjointed. We have not beat Chelsea in forever and Saturday was the day to hand it to them. Not the way Arsenal are playing at the moment. And NO Theo will never score consistently as a CF-don’t care what anyone says, and his pace really has not been that great since his injury and he plays no D while losing possession. Other than being homegrown I do not know what he is doing playing in the starting 11 other than giving Giroud as much needed rest here and there.
    Now lets get back to winning.
    Go Gunners-onward and upward.

  71. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Some really excellent chat yesterday.

    That I meant, and this I do too. Only one way to go, and that’s down.

    Chas
    If all the clips were cleverly from Where Eagles Dare, I’d get them all right and appear really intelligent and shit like that

  72. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Chas

    I do appreciate the effort you put in to doing these clips and stuff, and understand that on some days you have to go to work and all that, and therefore time would be short.

    Can I suggest that on such days, you simply get up much earlier. Cheers.

  73. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Great lyrics
    “down, down, down into a burning ring of fire”. Superb.
    Mind you, the trumpet bit is horrible, and that’s because trumpets are horrible. Worse than sitars.

  74. chas says:

    No quiz today, too busy.
    You do one, Micky.

    Here are my answers
    1. The Great Escape
    2. Where Eagles Dare
    3. The Dambusters
    4. The Bridge on the River Kwai
    5. Zulu

    See you later. 🙂

  75. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Oh FFS. You CANNOT leave me on my own.

    Don’t like your game anyway. Or you. Or anything.

  76. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I prefer Shard to Chas

  77. Gööner In Exile says:

    Right I’m going to wade in on the Theo debate. To play him at centre forward he needs as much if not more of a football brain than playing wing. His current problem playing wing is he is receiving the ball too deep, because of our current midfield two, Rambo in particular being too far forward when we start in possession.

    It doesn’t help him that both Campbell and Alexis are more comfortable playing passes when receiving the ball deep rather than the only option Theo has which is to get on his bike.

    If he is going to play up top he can’t just play on the shoulder, he has to be involved in link up play around the box and able to receive the ball under pressure. In this way Alexis and Campbell benefit from a better touch and more physicality to keep the ball, and both have better vision for a pass. OGs touch can be hit and miss but his size often alllows him to keep defenders away from the ball.

    It’s not just about running off the shoulder and as I’ve said time and time again, when teams sit deep any of that pace is nullified and as on Sunday he will get caught offside time and again trying to get into goal scoring positions with five or six yards to work in.

  78. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Oh dear lord, shard. I like a chopper as much as the next bloke, but we cannot guess from that clip, and I don’t even know what kind of animal that is in the second clip

  79. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Are you trying to be funny Exile? 🙂

  80. Shard says:

    This movie business is tougher than it looks because I don’t know what movies you lot watch. And like chas said, it’s difficult to find the balance between being too easy and too obscure.

    I might have erred on the side of obscurity.

  81. MickyDidIt89 says:

    “might have” 🙂

  82. Shard says:

    Oh just because you’re a cultural ignoramus doesn’t mean everyone is 🙂

    Or maybe I’m just a hipster 😦

    Naah..I’m just younger than you and there’s no disputing that..so HAH!

  83. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Shard
    Have you never seen Where Eagles Dare? 🙂

  84. Gööner In Exile says:

    1. die hard
    4. Alfie

  85. Gööner In Exile says:

    2. Aladdin? Or Tarzan?
    3. Lookalike a computer game
    5. All the Presidents Men?

  86. Shard says:

    If I saw those images in a quiz, I wouldn’t get 3 and 4. I thought the rest were easy, especially the first two, but guess not 🙂

    Die Hard is a good guess GIE..but..I’m afraid not correct.

    Actually I have Micky..Twice.. Because the first time I fell asleep while watching it 😀 Love Alistair MacLean books though.

  87. Eddie says:

    appcalyps now
    animal
    Get Carter
    ?
    The Driver

  88. Gööner In Exile says:

    Having looked at the chopper it looks like it’s got a Rangers emblem on the side, if I remember from When We Were Soldiers correctly, but i can see US police cars so I can’t see how it’s set in Vietnam?

  89. Shard says:

    I can put up alternate images for the movies, if you like.

  90. MickyDidIt89 says:

    No 1
    Perhaps instead of Downtown LA, it’s somewhere in Greece and therefore The Guns of Navarone?

  91. Eddie says:

    oh, I have only realised now that it wasn’t chas posting films. Is chas sick?

  92. Sorry to interrupt ……….. anyone got an idea for a post today?

  93. Shard says:

    Hahahaha Micky… It’s actually Ice Station Zebra with the ice melted and a fight for the oil underneath.

  94. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Shard
    Ice Station Zebra ROLF

  95. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    1. Towering Inferno
    2. Brazil?
    3.
    4. Get Carter (wasn’t Alfie in B&W?)
    5. Could be Driver or Fight Club

  96. chas mobile says:

    Terminator 2
    Emperor’s something
    Oblivion
    Get Carter
    Drive?

  97. Big Raddy says:

    3, My final offer is Bladerunner

  98. Big Raddy says:

    BTW Thank you Shard

  99. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Towering Inferno!!!

    Great idea. No tower.

  100. Eddie says:

    I guessed Get Carter and the Driver first. I win.

  101. Eddie says:

    chas not sick then. Is it a job share or like all other computer jobs film quiz is oursourced to India 🙂

  102. RA says:

    I am waiting for some Bollywood to show my extravagant knowledge – you know the ones like where Mowgli is eaten by Shere Khan and Baloo does a wonderful dance on Strictly – oh, yes, bring on Bolly. 😀

  103. Shard says:

    wow..Chas got all 5 right… emperor’s something being The Emperor’s new groove. He also restored my faith in this site by knowing that was Terminator 2. 🙂

  104. RA says:

    Peaches, I can whack out a quick essay if you want?

    The subject matter is not really important, but I can write something provocative?? 😀

  105. Eddie says:

    😦 i didn’t win then 😦

  106. RA says:

    OK, Peaches, I have stuck a Post on the end of the previous Post, if it helps!

    Quality is crap tho.

  107. Rasp says:

    Morning all ….

    Yes please Redders, we’d love one of your posts for today 🙂

    Oblivion is one of the films, I think you’ve all got the others right …..

  108. Big Raddy says:

    I am oblivious to Oblivion and Emperors New Groove.

  109. Rasp says:

    Oblivion with Tom Cruise

  110. Rasp says:

    …. New post …..

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