Should Arsenal be flying Fabregas’ flag when we play Chelsea?

There is a poster on display on the bridge at The Emirates depicting former Arsenal player Cesc Fabregas.

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It is part of the “Arsenal Greats” gallery which includes such luminaries as Tony Adams, Dennis Bergkamp and Charlie George, all players who showed a lasting loyalty to our club, why is there then a picture of a former Arsenal captain who deserted the club supposedly to complete his boyhood dream of playing for his beloved Barcelona?

It seems that when his dream move turned sour he couldn’t resist the lure of the wheelbarrow loads of Abramovich roubles on offer down the Fulham Road.

Does Fabregas really deserve to lauded alongside those true Arsenal Greats listed above?

With the imminent visit of the Chavs, and Fabregas, why is the poster still on display?

Should it be removed prior to Sunday’s game? I say Yes!!

Have your say and vote ……

Written by Norfolk Gooner

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141 Responses to Should Arsenal be flying Fabregas’ flag when we play Chelsea?

  1. RA says:

    Hi NG, 🙂

    Not knowing the subject matter for today’s Post I wrote an unread comment that I think has a bearing on your billet-doux.
    Hope you do not mind if I attach it, below.

    — We all have different personalities I guess, but I am fairly binary in my make-up, that is to say, I think that if, for example, a romance goes wrong, don’t sit and mope, or try to stay ‘friends’ – if it is over – it is over – goodbye.

    If players want to go — there’s the door – close it quietly on the way out.

    It is also difficult for a manager – he will have invested a lot of time and effort in developing a player, and if the player (such as Cesc) then wants to leave at the height of his career, that could feel like a betrayal.

    Losing a top player would badly weaken the team, and ultimately have an affect on the manager’s career as well.

    Good riddance on such players — don’t come back!

  2. ‘morning RA, feel free to post any comment you like, at any time, they’re always worth reading.

    In the case of the Homesick Spaniard, to my mind once he had expressed a wish to leave THoF the sooner he was out the door the better. The same sentiment applies to any member of the Club. If you don’t want to be at Arsenal, sod off, it’s your loss.

    Coincidently, this morning there is an article in the Telegraph all about how Arsene Wenger has not spoken to, texted or telephoned Fabregas since bidding him farewell in 2011. Why the hell should he?

    What sort of welcome will Fabregas get on Sunday, a warm one in recognition of his contribution to our club? Or a hot one for deserting us.

    Either way, the poster should come down.

  3. stevepalmer1 says:

    Morning all,
    A good comment re post Norfolk,
    My view on Fabregas is that he was a true Gooner and merits the flag that is raised. While in our employ, i witnessed a true master of the game of football, a player who merited praise from every Manager he ever played against. Fabregas was a player who was extra talented, he fitted into a team that were not as good as he was. He rose to the ranks of Captain and did the job well, his relationship with all the players and Management was very good as far as i know.

    Fabregas being so talented was disillusioned with the club, i know the feeling well as i felt the same when money was tight, where clubs around us spent millions on true talent we went to the bargain basements and brought or got free unknowns. That can only make a player of Fabregas’s emense talent wince, i know it did me.

    Fabregas when we took him away from Barcelona was just a kid i don’t even know if he had ever left Spain, Wenger saw the potential of the young man and took a chance. Wenger developed Fabregas into one of the finest midfield players in the world, i would go as far to say that he still is.

    Fabregas as i remember had family troubles, With Barcelona always banging at the door to retrieve one of their own he knew it could help him out to get out of England and sort his personal problems out,

    I can remember reading how Barcelona had made another offer for him and that was when money was tight, he spoke with Wenger as to what he should do, and from what i read Wenger asked him to stay for another season.

    Fabregas of course stayed for another season, not the best season he ever had as hamstring problems plagued him all season, but he did try and play and helped out the team.

    The following season Barcelona did their usual thing and offered to buy him, and Wenger agree’d, as far as i am aware the two men parted company amicably, Wenger i believe would have wished him well and thanked him for his services, in reply Fabregas would have thanked Wenger for making him one of the most sought after players in the world.

    I did read that Fabregas’s contract with Barcelona had a clause in it that should Barcelona ever sell him we would have first offer, but that was just paper talk , but a clause i feel Wenger would have asked for.

    When Fabregas’s time was up at Barcelona, he only wanted to come back to England, And as i read London if possible, Fabregas was up for grabs but Wenger had made his mind up that what we had was good enough. We missed out big time, but Chelsea saw an opportunity and grabbed it with both hands.

    Chelsea now sit top of the league and Fabregas has done his share to be there.

    I hold no animosity to Cesc Fabregas, i believe that had Wenger wanted him he would no be in Arsenals Red and White. Fabregas is a wonderful player good enough for any club in the world, he was a great servant to us and i am sure will do the same wherever he play’s. Just because a man leaves doesn’t make him a traitor in my eyes he is a quality player and should be back here.

  4. GoonerB says:

    Thanks NG, will be brief. I don’t think his banner should up and never should have been since joining a local rival still in his prime. I am not angry at him and don’t think he should be booed but he shouldn’t be commemorated in the way he is while playing at Chavs.

    Morning RA, I too thought GIE’s “inside outey” comment from last night was spot on 🙂

  5. RA says:

    Enn Gee,

    Where a player has been a ‘loyal’ servant of the club, but is then told ‘sorry guy, you gotta go’ [because the clubs are equally ruthless] they usually get a good clap and a cheer, at the beginning of the game.

    But where players move on to ‘better’ themselves they do not endear themselves to the fans who live and die with the same club.

    Freedom of employment movement is a fundamental right (subject to contract) – but I find it impossible to be charitable in my thoughts towards ex-players who return wearing another club’s colours.

    I am not a boo-er, and I think it is pointless anyway – but if he (Cesc) plays poorly — good. 🙂

  6. RA says:

    Well done, GB, and good morning to you.

    The flag business is a mistake — no player should be put up as an icon until their career is over, and the decision can be made then without any embarrassment.

    Get on the blower to Gazidis and tell him you won’t worm him until he makes that policy. 🙂

  7. mickydidit89 says:

    Bloody furious, NG.

    Two things. If I was say, Spanish or French, and worked for a Company in London for a few years, but was then offered a job by a bigger and better Company in say, Barcelona, I’d bloody well go.

    Second. I would tear down every single pathetically tacky poster from around the ground. Arsenal is way bigger than any individual, and the fact that we build bronze statues to people still alive, let alone the cheap chavvy posters, reeks of the awful celebrity idolistic society we live in.

    Melt the statues and burn the posters I say.

    Phew, that’s better. Love a rant Friday. Thanks NG 🙂

    ps thanks for yesterday RA. I’m paying the price for a slack week, or rather perfect easterly winds and sunshine 🙂

  8. mickydidit89 says:

    RA
    More than career over, they should be very dead.
    What happens when a bronze statuee is found with kiddie porn on his laptop or Totnum pyjamas?

  9. RA says:

    Precisely, Micky, @ 11:30, my sentiments too. 🙂

  10. RedMJ says:

    I don’t think he should have a poster on the bridge, not because he left or because of where he is now, but because he didn’t stay long enough to prove his worth and reach his own maximum potential or that of the club. Not to sound contradictory but I also think we should give him a very warm welcome on Sunday and throughout the game. Reverse psychology. When Bobby Pires came back with Villareal we sang his name all night and whilst he was feeling all warm and fuzzy and acknowledging the fans we stuffed ’em. When the dutch skunk comes and we give him dogs abuse (which is fully deserved) then he works even harder to hurt us. So take the poster down but wait until after Sunday.

  11. GoonerB says:

    RA, I hope you noticed that I did comment on your marvellous post yesterday and didn’t think I was ignoring you. It was sometime around the inside outey comment you complimented GIE on.

  12. chas says:

    Cheers, NG.
    I don’t give a flying fornication about Fabregas anymore. I’d imagine the banner will get something thrown at it if it’s still up.

    I was trying to find out if the banner was still up and was amused to find out it was taken down by the Club (along with others) last summer “due to inclement weather”. An Arsenal blog immediately jumped on this as a statement by the Club, completely incorrectly.

    I also stumbled across this which, again, I found amusing.
    Amusing not because of the subject matter, but because a complete and utter dickehead called Claude who you’ve all probably seen before, arguing about how shit we are, is referred to as a “superfan”.

    http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/572107/Arsenal-Cesc-Fabregas-banner-Chelsea-return

    Having read Micky’s rant about melting statues and burning banners, I was wondering what he thought about ‘superfans’? 🙂

    On Twitter it was rumoured that Bully, another Arsenal Fan TV created ‘superfan’, was now charging folks at games who wanted to have their photos taken with him. I’d imagine this is complete nonsense, but the very fact that idiot supporters want their photo taken with this chap is beyond absurd. (I’ve seen it myself outside the supporters club on the corner of St Thomas’s Road)

    Wonders never cease.

  13. GunnerN5 says:

    NG,

    Cesc was a wonderful player and gave his utmost for us, unfortunately it was at a time when our overall team did not have the necessary levels of talent to win the PL title. He wanted more than just being on a good team so he left for good reasons, he did not want to waste his career simply wishing and hoping things would improve – so he made the decision to return to Barcelona.

    I see nothing wrong with that and only bitter retards would barrack him on Sunday.

    That said I would prefer that his flag was not on the bridge as I feel it diminishes the whole principle of being an Arsenal legend.
    I could give you the names of a dozen players who are more deserving of that status than Fabregas……….who was simply an excellent player and most certainly not a legend..

  14. Careful GN5, Blackpool chairman Karl Oyston has been charged by the FA for calling one of his club’s fans a retard.

  15. RA says:

    GoonerB,

    Please accept my abject apologies, for wrongly referring to your comment – which I entirely agreed with – to Exile, who had written an adjacent comment, and also very good comment.

    My only excuse is that having waded thru Chas’s cat vids, I happened across his lady in a yellow bikini and it must have frazzled my mind. 🙂

    In any event, I never keep tabs on who does or doesn’t comment on a Post, and you are too much of a decent dude to ever be in my black book. 🙂

  16. Barca and Real kept apart in Champions League semi-final draw, now there’s a surprise.

  17. mickydidit89 says:

    Hahaha Chas

    I could give you an exact % breakdown of what I think of a 60k matchday crowd at the emirates 🙂

  18. mickydidit89 says:

    Although according to Norfolk’s 3:14 I’d be arrested without delay 🙂

  19. mickydidit89 says:

    One forgets what lovely skin Weller had 🙂

  20. RA says:

    As I have the afternoon off — that is to say even more off than normal — I hobbled into the kitchen, both to amuse myself and to give my flatmates a surprise. No, not by eating everything in the fridge! 🙂

    Currently the smell of freshly baked bread is wafting everywhere – so when they get back in, I suspect it will not be a surprise, as their noses will tell them before I ever can.

    Going to try my hand at a chocolate chip cookies now. (I lurve chocolate). 🙂

  21. chas says:

    Cup Final tickets guaranteed for 3+ away credits.
    Ballot registration from Monday morning until Friday morning.

    http://www.arsenal.com/match/report/1415/tickets/first-team/fa-cup-final-tickets

  22. chas says:

  23. chas says:

    “…best to not think about what’s been inside them and just enjoy the moment.”

    http://arseblog.com/2015/04/arsenal-gentlemans-weekly-review-68/

  24. RA says:

    Reverting to NG’s flag waving — there has been some discussion elsewhere regarding the foolishness of Wenger not re-signing Fabregasbag.

    AW has been a little coy over who rejected whom, and Maureen has waded in by saying that he knows why Fabregasbag chose Chelsea, which was to win titles. He said he did not know why he did not choose Arsenal.
    That poisonous little dwarf does not appear to have a civilised bone in his body – and some say his tongue is used for licking his own ass. My dog could do that! 🙂

    Even so, he has, inadvertently, put the lie to Wenger being at fault for not re-signing Cesc, but the know-it-all ‘fans’ will continue to peddle their nonsense, no doubt.

    Apparently Chelsea approached him, on the sly, the previous year and offered him a bag of gold, if he decided to leave Barca, and this was before Wenger had the chance to talk to him.

    Having the option to buy a player back is dependent on the player wanting to go back, and clearly he did not. No wonder Wenger was upset with him – and still refuses to discuss what went on.

  25. chas says:

    Genuine photo of another ex-Arsenal favourite. 🙂

  26. Right, I’m off to try to watch a bit of the test match. That is if I can stand the dreadful cacophony that goes on in the background.

    How come seemingly educated people cannot recognise the difference between a cricket ground and a discotheque?

    Well is is Rant Friday after all.

  27. Rasp says:

    Thanks Norfolk, it is the question on everyone’s lips today – what kind of reception should Fabregas receive from Arsenal supporters?

    I definitely wouldn’t boo Fab, he was great for us and helped us through some difficult years.

    I also agree with GN5, he should never have been given ‘legend status’ as he was still short of his peak when he left us. I don’t think the flag should have gone up the first place, it wouldn’t look very classy to pull it down now.

    It seems that Cesc didn’t please AW in the way he went about forcing his move so I can quite see why we didn’t take him back. Who’s the better player, Cesc or Mesut? – well in purely financial terms Mesut has greater value. Much as I wanted Cesc back at the time, I now think we made the right decision.

  28. RA says:

    Rasp,

    I have always suspected you never read my comments — unlike my best-est friend GB, or is Enn Gee my best-est, or maybe Rocky do dah is my best-est – anyway they never ignore my comments — well except Rocky maybe, and NG definitely!

    Recently I have seen the incontrovertible evidence of your wicked ways — so, when you agreed with my friend GN5’s [2:55 p.m.] that Cesc was not a legend, and should not have a flag; does that mean you would also have agreed with my hours earlier [11:20 a.m.] comment to the same effect, if you had read it? 😀

  29. Rasp says:

    Apologies Redders, I did speed read through the comments but did not scroll back up to check my sources, well at least we both agree that’s the main thing 🙂

  30. Eddie says:

    Why should we have bad feelings towards Cesc? He played his heart out for us, went to the club generations in his family supported (his granddad took him to a game when he was 6 months old). He won a few trophies and decided it was time to move again, for whatever reason.

    Arsenal were fighting hard to have first option to buy Cesc back. The club made no contact with him.
    Even after Chavs started talks with him there was a 7 day cooling off period for Arsene to step in. He didn’t, It was made perfectly clear to Fabregas that he was not wanted at the Emirates. That must have bloody hurt him. Player of his calibre not wanted! Chavs wanted him and he would have been madder than me not to accept it

  31. Rasp says:

    Hi Eddie, I don’t think it was Cesc’s decision to leave Barca, I think they decided to sell him – which was very strange as his stats for them were very decent and Xavi and Iniesta seldom play 90 minutes any more

  32. Eddie says:

    Rasp – you might be right. That’s even more the reason not to hate Cesc. Two clubs that he loved did not want him. That is probably why he will repay Maureen for signing him.

  33. Rasp says:

    Hi Eddie, both RVP and now Fabregas will have left Arsenal and won the EPL in their first seasons (after Spain for Fab) so if they said winning trophies was their motivation I suppose they’ve been proved right. But I don’t think either engineered their leaving particularly nicely. When I look at Cesc’s eyes in a chelski shirt, I see a man who is being professional but no way will Chelsea ever occupy the same place in his heart as Arsenal.

  34. Eddie says:

    rasp you softie 🙂 are you sure footballers have hearts? Or just big pockets?
    I tried hating Cesc, but failed. Took off and put back his photo on the wall several times, but I’d say it is there to stay. Unless……he scores against us on Sunday

  35. Gööner In Exile says:

    Evening all, I have read and heard the stories about Arsene snubbing Cesc and again the repetition of the fact that we had 7 days to sign him, match the offer once Chavs had come in for mum and they had to decided to sell.

    Let’s be honest Cescs agent played the clever game.

    Agent : Right Cesc me old mucka, Barca don’t want you anymore they need to get some money in forFFP and have a suspended transfer embargo, you know what the fans here are like they need a new toy every year and so to deliver it they need to sell someone and it looks like it’s you. Now Arsenal have the first option to buy you, if we go to them they’ll offer the asking price but probably only £100k a week, but once footballing world knows you’re available they won’t come in because if Arsenal want you they can have you. But don’t worry I have a plan and you’ll still end up at Arsenal.

    Cesc : ok

    Agent : Roman, Jose you can have Cesc, asking price £27m, what you want to offer for wages

    Roman : Jose you will buy him we have to play good football £200k a week.

    Agent : thanks, click.

    Agent : Arsene, Ivan, the time has come for Cesc to come home, but he is £27m and £200k a week.

    Arsene : Thanks but no thanks.

    Agent : Cesc, £200k a week back in London

    Cesc : Arsenal?

    Agent : er, we need to talk about that.

    Ok maybe that’s fantasy but there is one truth. I order for us to exercise our first refusal Cesc would have to agree personal terms, Chavs had already offered, so we had to match to get him.

  36. Gööner In Exile says:

    By the way Steve’s comment this morning reminded me of the game Ant and Chas were playing with us all on Saturday. Ants had stolen* 6 player cards (top trump type things) from a small boy.

    There were 6 players and we were asked to rate them 1st to last as our favourite players, the names in no particular order.

    Lee Dixon, Alan Smith, Sylvain Wiltord, Tony Adams, Ian Wright and Charlie George.

    Be interesting to know how those on here positioned those as top to bottom.

    My list was Wright, Adams, George, Dixon, Wiltord, Smith

    * Ant maintained he found them.

  37. stevepalmer1 says:

    Morning all,
    My comment yesterday was based on memory and paper talk at the time, I had not read yesterdays paper that described that Fabregas and Wenger had not even talked about coming back, If the report in yesterdays paper was right and that Fabregas had made a deal with Chelsea before talking with Wenger, is not what i would have imagined by Fabregas.

    I have to say my yesterdays comment was from the heart, whatever happened between the two men will have to wait until Wenger retires, as he will not talk a great deal about personal details of players or their actions.

    Wenger although stubborn has got a very good way of working, although secretive i believe he feels that keeping mute about some things is the best way to go, I am sure a book will come out after he hangs his boots up and perhaps we will be wiser.

    I said yesterday that i felt Fabregas’s flag should stay up, but after thinking about it, i now believe it should have been removed as soon as he parted company with Arsenal, Its doesn’t seem right to have a flag depicting another teams player.

    I felt a good comment someone put up yesterday was the one that stated about statues outside the stadium, about what happens if said person from one of the statues does some thing bad what would we do. Of course what happened to Jimmy Saviles Monument where it got pulled down would be the only route we could go down, but a bloody good comment.

    I go along with statues after some one has died, Give a bit of time for whatever stories come out and then put an effigy if he was a good man and of course a legend.

  38. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    In answer to GIE’s list:

    Adams, Wright, Dixon, George, Smith, Wiltord.

    The hardest was whom to place last – which meant more to me, the goal at OT or in Copenhagen?

    The thing is – I never “got” Wiltord. Couldn’t see what all the fuss was about and why he was AFC’s record signing. Yes, he was strong, pacy and skilful but I felt there was much more to him than we were seeing at AFC. In essence I thought Wiltord was a mercenary in a team full of Arsenal fans.

  39. Big Raddy says:

    chas. 6.27. Wonderful. My first impression was a whale’s tail

  40. chas says:

    BR
    Without looking it up can you estimate
    the difference in height between Lee Dixon and Ian Wright
    and then estimate the difference in weight between those same two?

  41. chas says:

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  45. Eddie says:

    GiE – so we should hate the agent, not Cesc. He is the innocent party. Is young Dein his agent?

  46. Big Raddy says:

    I would guess that Lee is taller and heavier than IW8.

    Being stupid but I don’t understand 6.59. Will think about it.

    And what is the relevance of the sexy young lady in 6.41?

  47. chas says:

    The girl at 6.41 came from a conversation between Arseblog and West Stand Tone on twitter. It’s the profile photo of a lady called Claire.

    I thought it was a profile picture with an obvious caption is all. 🙂

  48. chas says:

    BR
    Do you know how to release a comment from spam?
    My explanation of who 6.41 is has just come up as “awaiting moderation”

  49. Rasp says:

    I’ve just done it chas

  50. chas says:

    According to the Top Trumps cards, Lee is taller by an inch and a half, but Wrighty was heavier by a staggering 10 kilos (22 pounds in old money).
    Can’t be (w)right can it?

  51. chas says:

    Ta, Rasp

  52. chas says:

    Rasp
    Can you get rid of that message ‘you are posting comments too quickly. Slow down”
    It annoys the shit out of me every day.

  53. chas says:

    Right, off to the gym for a swim. 🙂

  54. Rasp says:

    Where does that msg come up chas – I’ve never seen it?

  55. Big Raddy says:

    They must have IW’s weight wrong

  56. mickydidit89 says:

    Pair of Jugs @ 6:41

    Hey Raddy, here’s an idea. PM today?

  57. mickydidit89 says:

    Mmmm, shame Barca and Bayern drawn together in the semis, because it would have made a much better one legged final

  58. Big Raddy says:

    Bog off Micky. I have plans ….

    But will write it this evening rather than early tomorrow – perhaps.

  59. mickydidit89 says:

    ok 🙂

  60. Big Raddy says:

    We would have beaten Juve and be on our way to the Bernabeau to enjoy some tapas and a few San Miquels

  61. Gööner In Exile says:

    Rasp I suspect only Chas sees it 😀

    I’m not sure but it is probably a WP thing to stop spamming.

  62. mickydidit89 says:

    Not so sure about beating Juve, but a trip to Madrid would have been fantastic. A City worth bothering about, and probably the worlds greatest football club. Superb.

    Bloody hope we get them in the group stage next season

  63. Rasp says:

    Thanks GiE, that must be the case, fast fingers chas is bamboozling WordPress 🙂

  64. Big Raddy says:

    Ye of little faith.

    We would have facilmente battuto Juve – both a casa e fuori

    And Arsenal are the greatest football club in the world.

  65. mickydidit89 says:

    Raddy

    Anderlecht and Monte Carlo were seriously good sides 🙂

    And……yeah ok

  66. Big Raddy says:

    From the Grauniad:

    “Sturridge and Suárez scored 52 Premier League goals between them last season as Rodgers’ team came close to winning Liverpool’s first championship since 1990. This term the established forwards – Sturridge, Mario Balotelli, Rickie Lambert and Fabio Borini – have produced eight league goals in total”

    Has there ever been more concrete evidence of a one man team?

  67. mickydidit89 says:

    True Raddy

    God, can you imagine if we replaced Ollie with Suarez. Crikey, what an attack.

  68. Gööner In Exile says:

    True Raddy, whilst Rodgers admirers allow him the excuse of Suarez leaving and Sturridge being injured no one seems to factor in that Sturridges goals came from the fact that most defences were on Suarez like a hawk and forgot the other threats (Sterling and Sturridge).

    Also why should he be allowed it as an excuse, Arsene managed to keep us top 4 when we were losing 2/3 key players a season. Rodgers failure to do the same for Dippers kind of shows what many of us have understood about the post stadium Wenger era.

  69. RA says:

    Micky,

    That was an interesting comment and would have been fun; ‘it would have made a much better one legged final’.

    Do they have separate squads of one legged players?

  70. Big Raddy says:

    Ozil and Suarez (swoon) but would we have bought Alexis?

  71. mickydidit89 says:

    Oh behave RA

    A one leg encounter has the potential to produce one epic game. Two leggers rarely produce one epic game between the two matches

    I think whoever is away first will win

  72. mickydidit89 says:

    Raddy

    Think BIG. All three. It’s other peoples’ money after all. Perfect leftie philosophy 🙂

  73. mickydidit89 says:

    Right, need to get off my arse and do something. Just can’t decide.

  74. Big Raddy says:

    I am going out with a flame-thrower to burn the hell out of some weeds

  75. stevepalmer1 says:

    Morning all,
    Waiting all week for a big game with Chelsea seems like forever, and yes the Authors that have been posting all week have done a splendid job. They have struggled to keep supporters interest with posts of all kinds and a fine job they have done.

    At the moment with an Election pending, we have had countless hours of political debates and politicians spilling out promises should you vote for them, One of the main questions that all these politicians have been asked is how they can afford to make promises and where the money is going to come from.

    Many have stated many ways of taking taxes off of some and giving to others to balance the books, whoever and whomever you give your vote to, i ask you have you heard any politician at all talk about Oil.

    A billion barrels of oil has been discovered under Gatwick airport, several other masses of oil have also been discovered around the Scottish coast line oil has also been discovered off the coast of the Falklands and fracking gases found all over the UK.

    In the North sea at present on the coast of Scotland oil is being pumped out but hardly a mention from anybody, i read on the internet that when this oil was first discovered the English Parliment rushed a bill through that claimed 300 miles of the Scottish coast line so England now has shares in the oil as well.

    Estimates say it will take a hundred years to pump out the reserves of north sea oil so why are we worrying about funding when all we need to do is pump and sell. At present the British Government have said that the Oil found under Gatwick is not a viable proposition so taxing the public is the only way.

    I thought that football politics were dodgy but bugger me that is nothing compared to our political leaders.

    I speak about this only on yesterdays post, as it was Rant Friday.

  76. mickydidit89 says:

    Funnily enough Raddy, I’ve been out killing. Spanish Bluebells to be exact.

  77. Shubham says:

    I feel, we should hold no grudge against any ex-player/s. Modern day football is just a job for most. Cesc, Van Persie, Adebayor all are part of that tribe. I felt sick when Cesc left us and couldn’t fathom why he joined the Chavs under Jose, of all clubs. But that is life. We all change jobs for better opportunities. So, lets ignore him tomorrow and make hell for Terry and Jose. For whatever we are, we are the Gunners! a club with class and repute. Let us show them who the boss is in London……Coyg!

  78. Eddie says:

    Raddy – Henderson scored 6

    why are you killing bluebells? the Spanish variety are more fragrant

  79. stevepalmer1 says:

    Well said Shubham.

  80. mickydidit89 says:

    Eddie
    The Spanish (available in all bloody garden centres near you) are destroying the native wild English. Think bastard grey squirrel.

    Abuse those who plant the bastards

  81. Eddie says:

    micky – that’d be me 🙂 I don’t do self abuse 🙂

    When in Poland look for a black squirrel, beautiful

    I don’t think I want to watch any of the games today, nothing really exciting, is there?

  82. mickydidit89 says:

    Eddie
    Our 1000 English ones we planted are now appearing. Far far more beautiful. Then I had a fit when I saw some bloody foreigners and go around plucking their heads (seeds) off then dowsing the bastards with roundup

  83. Eddie, can I recommend a game that will be exciting, fast, furious and stacked with hunky men. There’ll be no lilly livered divers on display, the referee will be respected throughout.

    Try The Northampton versus Saracens game, Kick off 17.15.

  84. RA says:

    NG,

    These rugby types are always diving over some line, or other — and I think their unhealthy habit of putting their heads into a ‘scrum’ and taking about team-mates is unhealthy – not to mention their whispering – ‘you put it in – I’ll put it in, and we’ll both put it in together’ which is totally shocking!

  85. Eddie says:

    thanks NG, I will give it a go

    micky – vote UKIP

  86. Sorry I mislead you Eddie, kick off 15.15 BT Sport.

    RA, rugby, a game played in to a very high level in New Zealand, a country where men are men and sheep wear a worried look. 😀

  87. mickydidit89 says:

    Saints, Spurs and Pool all drawing. The battle for Thursday football is really hotting up 🙂

  88. mickydidit89 says:

    And City beating Villa. Mmmm,, plus side is it would be nice Villa playing intense relegation cup finals every week.

  89. Big Raddy says:

    Could we be playing a relegated team in a Wembley Final again? 🙂

  90. Gööner In Exile says:

    Good days results for us, 2 wins away from The Feast of St Totteringham, 2 wins and a draw away from at least guaranteeing 4th.

  91. Big Raddy says:

    Do you chaps get Ray Winstone’s ugly mug and awful diction extolling the virtues of online betting half a dozen times an hour?

    Or is it just us Scandi’s who have this particular privilege?

  92. chas says:

    Shame about Citeh’s 3rd, but mustn’t grumble.

  93. Ant says:

    We’re back on the train tomorrow!

  94. Big Raddy says:

    Would have been handy if they dropped a couple of points at home to relegation fodder.

  95. Gööner In Exile says:

    We get him too Raddy. In fact it feels that betting is everywhere at the moment, I’m all for free trade, but surely gambling is not something the authorities want the general population doing en masse, surely causes as many financial issues as pay day loans but you don’t hear government clamping down on it.

  96. Big Raddy says:

    GIE. Agree.

    chas. I like Winstone as an actor but he is becoming a caricature of the Cockney Geezer (even supports WHA).

    Looks like England could be about to win an away Test match. Hurrah!!

  97. Gööner In Exile says:

    Has everyone seen the clip of David Cameron forgetting which football team he supports? You see him stop afterwards thinking ….. shite wrong team in claret and blue….. at least he didn’t say Burnley, Alistair Camlbell would have had a field day.

  98. Gööner In Exile says:

    Just checked Twitter, Alastair Campbell is having a field day anyway!

    Why do politicians feel they need to ingratiate themselves on something as stupid as football?

    Surely all we care about is whether they can do a good job?

  99. fatgingergooner says:

    He deserves neither boos nor applause from Arsenal fans IMO. He was a fantastic player for us and did some excellent things, but never completed his legacy and therefore is no legend in my eyes.

    If you’re not willing to give your best years to the club, then why should the fans give their best to you?

  100. fatgingergooner says:

    I think Juventus will be in the final of the CL btw. I’ve been drinking, but I’m no TA!

  101. mickydidit89 says:

    Somersaulting cat?

  102. mickydidit89 says:

    EDDIE EDDIE EDDIE

    Come see this 🙂

  103. mickydidit89 says:

    That’s the One
    Classic. You just have to give life a go 🙂

  104. RA says:

    The dog on the left lying prostrate on the sofa looks like he did nit make it!! 🙂

  105. RA says:

    The cat on the top right has been out for a night on the tiles, and thinks they are all idiots. 🙂

    And good morning fellas.

  106. mickydidit89 says:

    Yes, I suppose a good morning fellas is in order

  107. fatgingergooner says:

    I think the dogs made the most of that but you just can’t raise your arms in the modern game.

    As for the second one, that’s a definate dive in the box!

  108. chas says:

  109. mickydidit89 says:

    ha ha FGG, very good

  110. chas says:

    Morning fallas

  111. chas says:

    We never stood a chance really, did we? 🙂

  112. mickydidit89 says:

    Was watching something with me children last night.
    Classic line
    Yoof pulls up shirt to reveal huge Chinese letter/characters all the way down his side
    Girl: “Ooo, what does it mean. Something deep and meaningful?”
    Bloke: “Nah. Crispy roll. Plum sauce. Duck”
    Well I ROLFED

  113. chas says:

    I suppose if you’re that pished you can’t speak, that would help when you make your order at the Chinese Takeaway on the way home.

  114. mickydidit89 says:

    Precisely Chas. A genuinely useful tattoo

  115. chas says:

    Here’s another informative tattoo.

  116. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    Love the cat vids and the early pic of the Vines is excellent..

    Is the lady on the swing genuine?

    Got to finish the post ….

  117. chas says:

    I’ve washed this half a dozen times and I still can’t shift the Alan Smith signature. 🙂 #wearyellowforWembley

  118. chas says:

    BR
    I think she’s skipping rather than being on a swing.
    So that’s ok, then!

  119. mickydidit89 says:

    Chas
    Just put a line through the alan smith bit, and add your own clearly fake Mickey Thomas signature
    In some ways, you’ll be making two excellent points 🙂

  120. mickydidit89 says:

    Ok, on mobile rest of day. Defo watching the game though.

  121. Big Raddy says:

    My shirt has an Ian Wright signature.

    This is a good read from a Chelsea fan about the game. Disposes of the need for much of my post

    http://the4thofficial.net/2015/04/25/rivals-corner-chelsea-fans-view-derby-opponents-arsenal/?

  122. Big Raddy says:

    chas. I amended my comment after looking back at the pic. Even more scary!

  123. Eddie says:

    little Chas and Ant 🙂 🙂 Beautiful photo! And the hats 🙂 🙂 you are so lucky to have photos and brother like that, the photo speaks volumes

    Cats and dogs interactions are always fun. My cat Lilly La La walks with us round the bloke at night, cuddles up to the dogs when she feels like it, all lovey dovey until the pug goes bananas and chases the cat out of the house. He is the boss after all. Staffie and alsation are scared of Lilly

    I like that Pelle guy, scores some fine goals

  124. Eddie says:

    micky – another tragedy in Nepal. Is he ok?

  125. Eddie says:

    raddy – no excuse for no PM. The Chav said: ‘Overall they are playing some good football’ – an understatement of the year?

  126. mickydidit89 says:

    Eddie
    Bro ok.
    My mate who stayed here last week still not heard from. Went back to Nepal last Friday. He the one what rowed the atlantic

    Right, offski.

    Enjoy the PM those lucky enough to savour it 🙄

  127. Big Raddy says:

    There is a new (and long) Post

  128. chas mobile says:

  129. no! check out my blog

  130. jason says:

    What’s up, just wanted to tell you, I loved this post.
    It was helpful. Keep on posting!

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