Happy Xmas, The War is Over

I said in my yesterday morning comment that Stoke had the home advantage, and could beat us on the day, and so it proved. Of course it didn’t help that we have not won there for some considerable time, and i felt Stoke actually believed they could out muscle us as the surly did.

When looking to see where we went wrong, i don’t think you have to look further than the injury list to see where our weaknesses are. Many supporters are claiming that the manager is at fault because he didn’t buy more players in the transfer window, maybe there is a bit of credibility there, but i feel that when we look at who was not available, the transfer window is grasping at straws,

Many are now saying that Martinez was at fault and they now want TPIG back between the sticks , Personally i felt Martinez made one mistake all afternoon, when a fierce swerving shot went straight at him, it hit his mid drift and he struggled to grasp it but a goal never resulted. His cover let him down on all their goals and in my opinion he wasn’t at fault for any of them.

Koshielney Debuchy Arteta Wilshere Walcott Diaby Ozil Szezesney Ospina Monreal all out injured, Hardly the managers fault, that all these players are all out at the same time.

We can all find reasons why we should have defended better, or why our forwards miss what looks like easy chances, but we all have to admit, that having the injuries we have would certainly stop any team from playing consistent football. I believe the best Manager in the world would struggle with an injury list the same as ours.

Many are moaning that Jenks was loaned out now that we need a right back, but that is nonsense as we brought in Chambers for Jenks which allowed Jenks to get the Premier league experience which we all said he needed. We also brought Debuchey who looked to be a fine replacement for Sagna but of course injury halted him.

Now you know as well as me, that Chambers was never intended to be used every game of the season, Belerin also was supposed to only be used in cup games, but again injuries to first team players has resulted in being forced to use learning players.

Ramsey as we can see, has had a lack of form since he came back from injury, Wenger could never had predicted that, and with Ozil out and Arteta as well we have been forced to suffer Ramsey’s form, its not as if we have Wilshere to bulk up the midfield as he has long term injury as well.

Wenger must have believed that Diaby would have been playing by now as he has had a complete season out, but his half a game resulted in him picking up another injury. By this time in the season any manager would have expected to have most of his players to pick from, but as we know our players are rolling over in every game, but that is not because Wenger never brought in the transfer window.

It is quite evident to me that Koshielney is a key player for us, when he is not in place BFG has nightmares and of course the depleted team always need a reshuffle where our players are asked to play cover positions. We can only buy certain amounts of players in any window most teams are the same, but of course most teams do not have our injury problems.

At the end of the day we wanted Marquee players top quality Talent. We all know the restrictions we have been under for quite some years, but now we are buying players, but as i said we can still only buy what’s available on the market..

Wenger has stated that he believes we can win the league in the next three years. Had all our players been available since the start of the season, we could have won it this year, No ones fault Just fate that’s all, some thing we have had problems with for some time, but don’t be mistaken, we have the players now to win the league and possibly the Champions league as well ,but the secret is getting them all fit and Playing.

written by Steve P.

This is Rasp’s rant published earlier …..

Arsenal don’t plan to fail …. We fail to plan

I couldn’t get a stream to watch the game and so had to follow via BBC sport and blogsites – therefore I cannot comment on the specifics of the performance.

There are reports of poor refereeing, of Stoke getting away with wrestling our players to the ground, of us being outmuscled and of Arsenal getting soft yellows and a red whilst Stoke indulged in orchestrated rotational fouling that went largely unpunished …….. No s**t Sherlock!

If we don’t know by now what to expect from a game against Stoke then we may as well give up and try another sport. We play in the English Premier League, this type of ‘battling game’ is what makes it popular worldwide.

Arsene has to stop trying to be King Canute in domestic games, employ a bit of pragmatism and build a team that can stand up to the Stokes of this world.

As Rocky observed last night, the foundations of yesterday’s embarrassing defeat were laid when we failed to bring in defensive reinforcements in the summer and then failed to prepare a team for Stoke’s all too predictable onslaught yesterday.

Rasp

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97 Responses to Happy Xmas, The War is Over

  1. Rasp

    I like a physical game as much as the next man/woman but yesterday wasn’t physical football, it was anti-football. If that had been against Maureens Chelsea it would now be all over the back pages. The press have condoned it by not mentioning it, is that because it was the Arsenal?

    The Premier League is known the world over for being tough and physical, but not rugby.

    SteveP

    Our injuries are a big factor at the moment, but we should have forseen that and got the neccessary replacements in beforehand. We didn’t, for whatever reason, and now we are paying the price.

    And as for being able to battle on no matter what, Rasp and Peaches having ‘man flu’ is no excuse for not making sure a post was up this morning ha ha ha 🙂

  2. D-Money says:

    In the last 10 years there have been poor refereeing performances, poor individual errors by our players and occassionally just brilliant opposition. But you know what hasn’t changed in that period? We still do not prepare tactically game-to-game. When Stoke score from 3 crosses against you, you know you didn’t have a game plan to counter their threat and that is poor management. Gross negligence even.
    You blame the injuries but we went into a full season with 6 1st team defenders, that isn’t bad luck, its mismanagement. We didn’t sign a DM because Diaby who had played a handful of games in the last 5 seasons was going to be fit all season, that is overly optimistic and just reckless planning.
    Over the years players have left and the entire squad has changed but we are still making the same mistakes, and there is only one constant: Wenger.
    You say you can’t blame the coach for individual errors or having to play squad players due to injuries: a) who signed each of those players making those mistakes? B) who failed to build a squad deep enough to deal with injuries to defenders in 3 different positions? Koscielny, Nacho and Debuchy do not all play CB or LB or RB, they all play different positions, where is their back up? If you have 3 CBs out fine, but that’s not the case with us, its poor management and planning.
    We had Alexis marking Crouch at at least 2 corners FFS! That isn’t down to injuries, its lack of leadership and organisation.
    You can pretend all you want and try and deflect all you want to injuries, poor referreeing etc. But we have a manager who has delivered 1 trophy in 10 years-why don’t you start there?
    Wosrt part: yesterday wasn’t a shock or surprise and neither are the narratives, its all boringly familiar, as Alisher said, we have a once great manager who is refusing to adapt and change and he is currently the biggest problem at AFC. Until he goes nothing will change. Simple as that.

  3. ‘morning all,

    Apart from conceding three goals in the first half, one of them after only twenty-seven seconds, having a player sent off and showing about as much fight as a kitten in a bull ring, we were “unlucky” to lose the game 3 – 2. According to the manager.

    In some mitigation, the referee was a joke, not a very funny one, but a joke nonetheless.

    There’s a picture in this morning’s Telegraph which shows Charlie Adams (what a charmer) with a choke hold on Alexis, one arm round his neck, one hand over his nose and mouth. The sort of thing seen regularly on a Saturday afternoon in years gone by…. when Mick McManus was plying his trade in the Wrestling ring. A straight red card? You must be choking! Sorry joking.

    Let’s not be fooled, the Arsenal performance was awful, injuries yes, but anticipation of what to expect and a plan as to how to deal with it? Zilch, nada, nothing.

  4. Rasp says:

    Sorry NG, I completely disagree with your last para. I’m not a soothsayer, I don’t have Crystal’s abilities, but I could have told you exactly what was going to happen before the game.

  5. There is preparing for a tough and physical match but you can’t prepare for physical assault:

  6. Big Raddy says:

    Rasp. It seems to me that agree with NG’s final para.

  7. Big Raddy says:

    We have won just once at the Potteries in 10 attempts.

  8. Rasp says:

    NB, this ‘victim mentality’ just has to stop if we are to become strong as a team. It is not helped when it is endorsed by supporters. Blaming referees or luck for the outcome of games is not going to solve anything.

    Obviously the Adams assault should have been punished but it is the sort of thing that those sort of teams get away with in the EPL. We’re not going to change the establishment on our own and the more we bleat about it, the weaker we appear and the easier it will be for refs and opposing teams to justify their behaviour by saying ‘well that’s just Arsenal, they’re always moaning’.

  9. Rasp says:

    Apologies to NG and Raddy, yes we are in agreement …. I don’t know how I misread it 😦

  10. eldergooner says:

    D-Money,
    Right on the money . Agree 100%.

  11. Raddy

    Most teams/managers get into the victim mode occasionally, on the BBC site today there is a big headline about Moaninho moaning about the ref and the ballboys. And the only mention of us is Wenger saying we are “too soft”. Nothing about the Stoke tactics. I’m just fucking sick of it. It drags the game down to an unacceptable level.

  12. chas says:

    Assists update sent last night

  13. Rasp says:

    Thanks chas 🙂

  14. Lenny says:

    Did you see Ramsey for their 2nd goal, embarrassing, he and flamini At Swansea one nil up with 15 mins to go and the pair are 10 yards from Swansea area, to think we didn’t bring cesc back because of Ramsey and we went into a season with arteta and flamini as holding mids. Ramsey played very well in a few games last season but overall was shite but kept poping up with goal, think palace first game, he will never be good enough.

  15. kelsey says:

    When I saw the team sheet and know how Stoke play,I didn’t need a crystal ball 😉 We just aren’t playing well.

    Yes some of those fouls were diabolical but if that forth goal would have been for us and then disallowed,there would have been uproar.

    Even our penalty was slightly dubious
    .
    Why didn’t Kos play, if he was on the bench.He’s either fit or not.

    Martinez shit himself the whole game but then he didn’t have a defence in front of him. AW experimenting again, though injuries dictated that, yet we can’t honestly say we have a full squad of a standard to be a top team, and whose fault is that.
    Mertesacker is absolutely hopeless without Kos by his side.

    Goals change games and Giroud’s header was a poor effort,it would have been easier to score. A top striker doesn’t miss those.

    I would actually say that the first half was the worst defensive display for years.

    I feel sorry for Chambers.He didn’t know what day it was,yet it was harsh he got a second yellow.

    For reasons I will keep to myself it just wasn’t appropriate nor did I have the time to concentrate on writing today’s post. Apologies.

  16. chas says:

    Beware bad language.

  17. Big Raddy says:

    We lost . Look at why and move on.

    It is AW’s fault, Ramsey’s fault, Flamini’s fault. The imbecile ref’s fault, the Orc’s tactics. Bellerin, Chambers, etc etc etc

    IMO it was OG’s fault for not burying a chance my mother would have scored.

    It’s done. My concerns are who is left to play at Gala and how do we get a result vs Newcastle and Liverpool without a functioning defence?

  18. LB says:

    That is a very good comment Steve I could never have written something as well balanced. And, not to forget, Rasp’s impassioned view which I certainly understand.

    Stoke played well, they exploited our weaknesses perfectly and I don’t think they were that dirty. The better team won, shit happens and the valium is working.

  19. chas says:

  20. chas says:

  21. ha ha ha That Claude and Ty are a right win double 🙂

  22. The Cockie Monster says:

    Hahaha….love Claude for the entertainment value !

  23. chas says:

    Team to play Galatasaray
    Ryan Huddart
    Tafari Moore Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill George Dobson Stefan O’Connor

    Serge Gnabry Gedion Zelalem Glen Kamara Joel Campbell
    Chuba Akpom Alex Iwobi

  24. The Cockie Monster says:

    Hahaha `69er and me must have been watching that at the same time !

    Wenger Out….Claude In !. hahaha

  25. The Cockie Monster says:

    You`re fcuking delusional, chas !………no Daniel Crowley !.

  26. chas says:

    Gotta blame someone…….

  27. chas says:

    I don’t think he’s registered, Cockie.

  28. chas says:

  29. Team to play Galatasaray

  30. chas says:

    They’re not registered.
    We need to play eleven cocks instead – just like yesterday.

  31. Can someone educate me please and put me straight on this: Chambers is now suspended for two games I think, till 21st Dec. However, if he hadn’t been already on a yellow and had got a straight red, would he only have been suspended for one game?

  32. The Cockie Monster says:

    I think we have become on the lines of a Buddhist team !………in another life they were good footballers, but now not so good !. Bring back Dalai Lama Thierry !.

    But fcuk the football !….more important is the state of the Country !. I hear we are something like £80 Billion in the red, but I have a cunning plan !.
    I was listening to Radio 4 on Saturday ( I have to as It`s the only station I can get on my van ! ) and some Minister was on there who is a smoker said that we get something like £11 Billion in tax from cigarettes and the NHS only spends about £3Billion on smoking related illnesses !.
    I also heard that smokers were at a all time high of 82% of the population ( all, male and female ) in 1948……51% in 1974 and now down to 20% !.
    Now I`m not a smoker and never have been and never will be, but those stats tell me we ( you) should try and buck the trend to get this Country out of austerity and back in the black. !.
    I propose smoking should be part of the National Curriculum and start the young addicts of in nursery, then primary and all the way through education so that we can get it back to the good old days of 82% and clear up the national debt within a couple of years !.
    Transplant would be a great role model for young AAers as he smokes in bed, when he`s fore playing, when he`s having sex, when he`s finished and in the shower afterwards !. Then at work, at Tesco`s, in the swimming pool, at the gym, having a crap, whilst having follicle replacement, basically everywhere !.

  33. chas says:

    NB69

    I think the red card (for two yellows) means a two game ban as he’s already been suspended once this season.

    A straight red card instead of two yellows would mean the same if it was for an offence such as denying a goal scoring opportunity.
    If it was for dangerous play I think the ban would have been for 4 games (3 plus 1 for the previous suspension)

    Hope this helps.

    (g) ADDITIONAL SENDINGS OFF
    Players dismissed from the field of play for a second time or who have been previously suspended under the Standard Directions set out in Schedule A of these Regulations in the same Season, in addition to the automatic suspension applicable to the offence, will be suspended for one extra match.
    Each subsequent dismissal for a player previously dismissed or suspended under the Standard Directions at Schedule A in the same season will incur a further extra match ban. This means that the total suspension imposed will include an extra game for each previous dismissal or suspension under the Standard Directions. For example, this means that a player dismissed for a third time in the same season, or suspended twice under the Standard Directions at Schedule A and dismissed once, will be suspended for an extra two matches and so on.

    (h) OUTSTANDING SUSPENSIONS
    Any suspension or part thereof which remains outstanding at the end of a Season resulting from these Disciplinary Procedures, must be served at the commencement of the next Season within the terms of these Disciplinary Procedures [Section 7 (a) to (g)].

    From murf’s post below:

    (murf’s Very Rough Guide to Suspensions)

    Red Card = banned immediately, usually for 1 game although it can be 2 games (using offensive or insulting or abusive language/gestures) or 3 games (Violent Conduct, Serious Foul Play or spitting at an opponent or any other person). All these bans are increased by 1 further game if it is a second red within one season, or by two extra games if it is a third red etc.

    5 yellows = banned immediately for 1 game. This ban for accumulation of yellows only applies for cards picked up by end of Dec !!!!.

    10 yellows = banned immediately for 2 games. This ban for accumulation of yellows only applies for cards picked up by second sunday in April

    15 yellows = banned immediately for 3 games. This ban for accumulation of yellows applies all season.

    Sent off for 2 yellows = a red card and you are banned accordingly. These yellows do NOT count for accumulation of yellows purposes. Note, however, that a yellow and a straight red (of any variety) means that the yellow DOES still count.

    Eligible Matches = Premiership, FA Cup, Carling Cup (basically all first team competitive, non-European games). This applies to both when they get the cards and when they are banned.

    Clear as fecking mud!

  34. We need to teach some of our foreign players how to react to tactics by the Stokes of this world. Like, after a bad tackle or a grapple and when close to the offenders ear, say:

    “You do that again you fecking c**t and I’ll break your fecking leg”

  35. Thanks Chas…. very clear 🙂

  36. stevepalmer1 says:

    Afternoon all,
    Sitting on the riverbank without so much as a nibble, and missing some blinding comments, I can only apologise trying to watch my float and reading this blog hase in a bit of a 2and8 situation . It’s about to piss down so I will make this short thank you all for your comments and don’t forget we’re all suffering supporters thanks again all

  37. Oh dear, I’m in modertaion again 🙂 it’s one of my favourite words!

  38. Time for lunch… Sausage stew (toulouse sausages) carrots, potatoes and dumplings…. spiced up with a little bit of chorizo.
    Bon appetit Ladies

  39. RockyLives says:

    Morning all – thanks for the Posts fellas.

    The clip of the two fans arguing on Arsenal Fan TV just really cheered me up, but I have no idea why. It just made me chuckle.

    This is going to be an up-and-down season – yesterday was one of the downs. It’s becoming a bit like being an Arsenal supporter in the late 70s or 80s until GG arrived. I was perfectly happy supporting the club then and I feel the same now.

  40. wally says:

    D-Money

    +1
    “Worst part: yesterday wasn’t a shock or surprise and neither are the narratives, its all boringly familiar…”

    Winners find ways to win, losers find excuses.

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  44. The Cockie Monster says:

    So Rack of the Day is replaced by Fat Bastard of the Day !. FIFA corruption has gone to a new level !.

  45. Can we call Jenkinson back from his loan at West Ham? He’s playing for a winning team and it looks as though we’ll be scrapping with the Hammers for the Europa league spot come spring.

  46. The Cockie Monster says:

    All this talk for Jenkinson to be recalled has put the Arsenal Injury Jinx on him !…….he came off injured today !.

  47. He’ll fit right in with the rest of our crocked squad then, Cockie.

  48. Rasp says:

    Widgets updated GB 😛

  49. Gööner In Exile says:

    Had a bit of a mad weekend so couldn’t watch the game.

    At 4pm I thought I’ll check the score on BBC web, I literally opened and shut the browser instantly, thinking I must have imagined it and opened it again. Took a minute to look at other scores and noticed the Chav full time result. Cheered me up no end. Schadenfreude 🙂

  50. Eddie says:

    i hate football
    For arnie

  51. William McGoonagal says:

    Re. the Wenger basher chorus…Napoleon once said that he’d rather have lucky general than a brilliant one, though Stoke raised their game, two of their goals were from Arsenal ricochet assists and , it goes without saying Arsenal won it on points when you look at the match stats. The regular witch hunt of Sir Arsene looks like mischief making from the gutter press or other assorted Arsenal baiters.

  52. arnie says:

    well done Steve, well done Rasp. 🙂

    and a lovely one, Evonne. 🙂

    yes, no appetite for football today. I wonder why? 😦

    Just one sentence. For a change I agree with Kelsey: never mind the lame excuses, it was just fecking shocking. 😦

  53. arnie says:

    Who cares about the League anyway, particularly this season? Except that 4th place is up for grabs, and we are on track.

    More importantly, CL beckons, and FA Cup draw awaits. 🙂

    Shit happens, just move on. Onwards and upwards. 🙂

  54. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Cheers Steve and Rasp.

    What a load of shit. Ime so pissed of i havent eaten or washed all day. Just stared 24/7 at the mirror, James Stewart looking back at me with “Its a wonderful life…..If your f*ucking Peter Crouch”

    No fit bird in black & white to say “Dont do it Terry, fourth spot is still on”. No, just Mark Hughes getting a disturbing erection

    I wish i could think of something funny to get our minds of such a crap result. Like the time I was chased by an ostrich, but that would be a lie, ive never been chased by an ostrich.

    It was a f*ucking emu that assaulted me. The bastard hunted me down, out jumped me for a header, got me in a headlock, manifested itself three times, and all this whilst thirty thousand other emu inbreeds looked on in wonder

    They sang to there delight, as i sang for a finale, “We peck you stay, we peck you to stay, oh Arsene Wenger, we peck you to stay”

    Excuse me, ime not myself.

    Goodnight

  55. arnie says:

    Terry. 🙂 Never mind, the fight is on! 😛

    what a fantastic final in the snooker! 🙂

  56. arnie says:

    nevertheless, this is shameful. 😦

  57. arnie says:

    Peace.

  58. Gööner In Exile says:

    I do have a question….when Monreal was playing centre back a lot of people on here said they would have preferred Bellerin at right back and Chambers at centre back. I am not suggesting that Monreal would have improved things yesterday but I am interested to know whether anyone who watched the game thinks the first half would have been worse with Monreal there.

    I suppose my question is was yesterday the defence, the midfield or collective.

    Before the West Brom game Chambers gave an interview saying that the team had spent the previous few days post Dortmund working on the way WBA play, he is too young to make that shite up I would guess.

    Why do we think the same wouldn’t have been true yesterday.

    Problem is a goal in the first minute tears any game plan to shreds, it shouldn’t but it’s hard to control players emotions/psychology in those situations.

    And one further question the bench….Naitland-Miles and Ajayi, the latter a 19 year old centre back, I’m guessing Kozzer is set for another relapse at any moment.

    Be a little upset if Arsene was saving players for Galatassary as finishing top of the group is a long shot surely?

  59. chas says:

  60. MickyDidIt89 says:

    On November 29, Arsenal played WBA. I said I would miss the game as some surf conditions are actually unmissable.

    A friend of my Wife’s posted this from that day. We were on the next beach down about a quarter of a mile south.

  61. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Chas

    I’d rather more of Eddie’s Smut Extreme than these Padvents 🙂

  62. chas says:

    Surf looks amazing.

    Ok, no more Padvents.

  63. Eddie says:

    micky – do not try googling ‘naked yoga for men’ and chose Images, not before breakfast anyway

  64. MickyDidIt89 says:

    No no Chas
    Don’t listen to me, but I have to say the Dad in a Nappy one was extremely disturbing!

    Here’s my thang. Cool easy longboarding on a beach just south of the vid above. Some say best longboarding beach in uk.

  65. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Oh ok, Chas and Eddie, let’s play 🙂

    I ain’t discussing football that’s for damn sure.

  66. Morning all

    Don’t put temptation my way Eddie 🙂

  67. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Oh god Chas, bring back Padvent

    I should have read the bloody signals. Title, sitar, his own recording set up in his bedroom, so why the surprise when he opens his mouth and has the voice of a two month old weasel 🙂

  68. chas says:

    Best guitar I’ve ever heard. 🙂

  69. Eddie says:

    you need to be more tolerant micky 🙂

    Back to football – I think we’d better get used to being a mid table team. I wonder if the prats saying ‘4th spot is not a trophy’ have changed their mind?

    I think that somehow we will pull through and get into the top 4, but it is going to be a horrendous struggle. Sad, if that’s the best we can aim for in EPL, but given that we have no influence over it let’s just enjoy the ride

  70. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Ha ha Yellow Submarined. Twice

  71. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Chas @ 7:13 Rock of the Day?

  72. French women can turn anything to something sexual…. cooking, wait till about the 4 minute mark

  73. Oh dear, I appear to have had a StevePalmer moment and stopped the comments 🙂

  74. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    Fine banter this morning.

    NB. Very funny. Even Peaches’ Mum would laugh

  75. arnie says:

    motning all. ha ha ha, lovely batner. 🙂

  76. Raddy

    Glad you left that comment, I was starting to get paranoid 🙂

    Oh no… Arnie and the ‘bhageshwari’ attack ha ha

  77. arnie says:

    anything but football will do fine, NorthBank. 🙂

  78. Bugger………… I’ve done it again 🙂

    Where’s todays post…..?

  79. Found a post, back in a bit …………………

  80. Morning all

    We have a New Post ………………….

  81. extra money for seniors

    Happy Xmas, The War is Over |

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