Torreira out, who is next?

As Torreira is joining Fiorentina on a season-long loan, Arteta mentioned the club is working on exits and the following players have been linked with moves away:

  • Willian to Corinthians once his contract is mutually terminated;
  • Nketiah rumored to join Crystal Palace;
  • Nelson could also join Crystal Palace but on-loan after signing a long-term contract with AFC;
  • Kolasinac also on the potential out list but no concrete offers for him yet;
  • Bellerin also on the potential out list but no concrete offers for him yet;
  • Soares with an uncertain future with us as well;
  • AMN, uncertain future but he may be keen to stay;
  • Lacazette rumoured to be on the market for 15 Mln EUR but I think it is unlikely;
  • Aubameyang supposedly monitored by Barcelona and Man City but I doubt he will leave.

So who do you think will leave?

48 Responses to Torreira out, who is next?

  1. fred1266 says:

    Willian apparently once he recovers from covid he could travel

    Kolasinac

  2. billy says:

    I think I’ll leave and support Accrington Stanley

  3. RC78 says:

    Billy – good move…lol

  4. RC78 says:

    I forgot Runaarso who is poised to leave on loan as well

  5. RockyLives says:

    Billy

    Apparently Willian wanted a move to Accrington but they turned him down.

  6. RC78 says:

    Meanwhile:
    – Chelsea to sell Zouma and to acquire Kounde
    – Man City agree terms with CR7
    – Real agree terms with Mbappe

  7. Pete the Thirst says:

    Willian transferred to the Copacabana.

    @RC I don’t really understand some of those moves…

    Ronaldo is 36. Seems a pointless move.

    Real have no money. Getting on a billion Euros in debt. Where is the money going to come from?

  8. RA says:

    RC,

    There may be bad news for your lads at PSG.

    There has been an unconfirmed rumour that the Qatari royal family Sports Investment unit are possibly interested in buying Arsenal from the Kronke’s within the next year, but it may be a very difficult deal.

    It is unlikely to happen, in my opinion, but it would push Arsenal, financially, to the top of the tree.

    FFP has not stopped all the over-wealthy owners from spending huge money on the likes of Messi and Mbappe — so to be candid, I used to be against billionaire ownership of clubs, although we are now owned by a billionaire anyway — but to have any chance of winning titles or at least closely contesting them, we will have to spend similar money to Man City, Chelsea, PSG, (Real and Barça – once they recover from their current problems) etc, etc, otherwise there is only one way we are going.

    A Qatari buy out seems OK to me — nowadays it’s only money that works in football.

  9. RockyLives says:

    Redders

    Interesting stuff.

    We are very unlucky to have landed the only billionaire owners who act as if they’re broke.

    Stan and Josh Kroenke – the Albert and Harold Steptoe of international football…

  10. GoonerB says:

    Haha, brilliant analogy Rocky.

    Thanks RC. We certainly need to shift a couple more but there are arguments for keeping others. Fir instance I feel both Lacazette and AMN could contribute positively to us this season and would extend their contracts.

    Where are we replacing Lacazette from anyway this late in the transfer window? If recent games have taught us anything it is that senior experienced strikers will be important to us this season and we cant expect Martinelli and Balogun to replace what Laca and Auba give us.

    I would not like to enter the season with just one of them either and feel we need both to cover each other in case of injury and for rotation purposes. Maybe neither are considered in the absolute elite of strikers but they are not far off and look hard to replace right now.

    Bellerin just has his head elsewhere as has Willian so we really need to not count them in this season. We dont need to buy if Willian leaves, and arguably don’t need to with Bellerin either with options from Chambers, Cedric and AMN, although Trippier is an interesting thought.

    On AMN, I still like him. His versatility is great but also potentially a hindrance. He doesn’t fancy full back but I don’t fancy him in CM. However I think he could also be effective attacking from the left.

    He kind of played the more attacking left channel yesterday when he came on and I thought he looked like he could offer something. I would keep him maybe with that role more in mind. We really have Martinelli as the main one for that role although ESR can play it, but Martinelli is maybe ready to start playing more up top so AMN could be useful this year.

    Nelson I would look to loan but with a view to becoming a regular in the future. May not happen but he has enough about him. Palace would be a good option. Palace would also be where I’d look to sell Nketieh to but with a 1st option buy back.

    I’d also be interested in seeing if we could secure Zaha on striking those 2 deals. Of we did lose Laca then at least we get an experienced player who could cover his loss. Zaha can play from the attacking left or up top.

    After this Kolasinac and Runnersson are kind of surplus to requirements.

  11. LB says:

    I think there is a interesting debate to be had over Josh and Stan’s spending; they have just shelled out another 100 million in transfers isn’t that a good thing? This is not meant to be confrontational I am genuinely curios as to what people think?

  12. RockyLives says:

    LB

    That did cross my mind as I was having my little snipe at them.

    But my comment was more in response to RA’s.

    Compared with the likes of Man City, Chelsea, PSG etc our owners have spent a pittance over the past decade.

    If they had invested more heavily earlier on we might never have lost touch with the ‘elite’ pack in the first place and the club would be worth hundreds of millions more – which makes it look like a bad business plan on the part of the Ks.

  13. omgarsenal says:

    Here are my bets:

    Willian to Corinthians once his contract is mutually terminated- hopefully
    Nketiah rumored to join Crystal Palace – false rumour
    Nelson could also join Crystal Palace but on-loan after signing a long-term contract with AFC – false rumour
    Kolasinac also on the potential out list but no concrete offers for him yet – might be a good move
    Bellerin also on the potential out list but no concrete offers for him yet – we need ALL the defense we can get so no move.
    Soares with an uncertain future with us as well – we could afford to let him go.
    AMN, uncertain future but he may be keen to stay – great potential-will saty.
    Lacazette rumoured to be on the market for 15 Mln EUR but I think it is unlikely- more British Bullshit rumours- no move.
    Aubameyang supposedly monitored by Barcelona and Man City but I doubt he will leave- another British BS rumour- will saty.

  14. fatgingergooner says:

    How do clubs and owners measure success these days? Fans only care about one thing, and that’s results, but do owners care that much about what happens on the field week after week? Do the Kroenke’s really care if Arsenal finish 1st or 4th? Is it worth them spending £500m every couple of seasons to move up a couple of places? I think it’s obvious that finishing 8th (and the subsequent poor attendances) has made the owners a little uneasy, hence the investment, but if we manage to get back into Europe and the CL, do we really think the owners will invest to push us to major silverware?

    Do the owners really need the club to win silverware in order for them to grow their investment? My guess is they don’t.

  15. RC78 says:

    Good point OMG…

    Meanwhile, it seems
    – PSG will sanction a Mbappe move to Real Madrid at 200 Mln EUR or 180 Mln EUR + 1 player (Rodrygo or Asensio or Mendy or Odriozola or Vazquez;
    – Juve will also allow CR7 to leave, pbbly to Man City;
    – Juve will look to get Icardi from PSG but this will only be possible if PSG gets Kean and/or Richarlison from Everton.

    Navas – Hakimi, Marquinhos, Ramos, Bernat – Wijaldum, Paredes, Verratti – Di Maria, Messi, Neymar

    Donnarrumma – Dagba, Keher, Kimpembe, Diallo – Herrera, D.Pereira, Gueye – Asensio, Kean, Draxler

  16. fred1266 says:

    Wouldn’t you prefer mendy over asencio

  17. GoonerB says:

    FGG, agreed although I would split that question into 2; “Do owners really care what happens on the field and whether we come 1st or 4th” vs “Do “our” owners care about those things”.

    RA makes a valid point earlier regarding our billionaire owners compared to others and that maybe he is coming round to the idea of a middle east or other type of owner over an American one.

    I am leaning this way as well with an acceptance that I’m not fussed anymore which billionaire it is and would take the one that sees onfield success as a priority.

    I read an interesting article a while back about the Russian mentality. Kudos and prestige are far more important to their way of thinking than just stockpiling as much money as they can.

    This means Abramovich is not concerned about frittering away one of his billions if it means he has the prestige of being the owner of one of the world’s most successful football clubs.

    The Amerian way of thinking seems to be the polar opposite and the financial gain is far more important than the sporting success.

    Now I have to admit to being prejudiced initially towards an American owner over a Russian or middle east institution. Same language and cousins across the pond and all that. It felt safer, a more known quantity and greater similarity to the British outlook on all things.

    Was that a false sense of security though and has it been that all along the American billionaire is more dangerous to the our 150 or so year old club than someone who prioritises the history and prestige of the club. Someone who is worried if their 10 billion reduces to 8 if it gets the sporting success.

    Sadly maybe its anyone but an American owner. Maybe we need that live life for now attitude rather than how big a bank balance can I get before I meet my maker.

  18. GoonerB says:

    Sorry that was meant to read someone who isn’t worried about 10 billion reducing to 8

  19. GoonerB says:

    Got to say I think we can go with what we have right now in the squad and have a successful season. If we do go with what we have we should extend Lacazette’s contract and also anyone else getting to within 1 year.

    I dont know who else is that close but we can’t fully say that players like AMN, Nketieh, Nelson might still not make the grade with us so either sell with buy back options or loan out but with contracts secured.

    I feel maybe another player who can play the attacking left and cover in the middle attacking area as well would be good. Get another player who can alternate with Martinelli but also allow him to move more permanently up top and start cutting his teeth there. My preference would be Zaha but Aouer could be good.

    If we had a chance on Trippier that could be a good addition although I am calm with Belly, Chambers, Cedric and AMN and dont feel our season will be that much affected one way or the other by sticking or twisting in that position.

  20. GoonerB says:

    Juve in for Auba and Lacazette still touted to go…….rumours rumours. I hope they’re all media BS because we shouldn’t be letting either one go never mind both of them.

    I ask myself who would replace or improve on their quality, experience, and EPL know how, and can’t come up with anyone realistic. The only way I can see us making them being sold work would be by branching into the fantasy world of securing Haaland.

    Unlikely in the least so I just hope we settle down with the 2 we already have plus the youngsters.

  21. RC78 says:

    Sancho, Ronaldo, Rashford
    Pogba, Fred, Fernandes
    Shaw, Varane, Maguire, Bissaka
    De Gea

    Martial, Cavani, Greenwood
    Lingaard, Matic, McTominay
    Telles, Bailly, Lindelof, Tuanzebe
    Henderson

    Man Utd would look strong with CR7 arrival

  22. fred1266 says:

    With me in the side it doesn’t look to strong

  23. RC78 says:

    Fred – do not underestimate your value and talent 🙂

  24. RC78 says:

    CR7 has been confirmed by Man Utd. With him, Man Utd join the list of serious contenders currently containing Chelsea, City and Liverpool…

    Lukaku – Salah – CR7 – Kane – Vardy – Auba…who will get the Golden Boot?

    City will move for a forward for sure now…Lewandowski? Haaland?

  25. RA says:

    Apologies, Rocky, GB, FGG et al, for being unavailable to respond to the Qatari take over rumour.

    Over many previous years on AA some really top bloggers said they would rather stop supporting the Gooners, if they travelled the pecuniary road blazed by the Chavs, City, Pool and Manure, because they only wanted the EPL to be a fair and evenly competitive tussle for trophies, protected bt FFP, and not the ‘you show me your dollars, and I’ll show you mine”.

    Unfortunately FFP just did not work, (predicted at the time by yours truly) as it allowed top notch lawyers to make mincemeat of UEFA/FIFA and their interpretation of their own rules.

    During the Wenger years, our perpetual ‘success’ in achieving a place in the top 4, generated plenty of competitive monies and also sponsorship cash – and that was fine by the owners and to hell with what fans wanted the team to achieve – i.e. a trophy or two, or three.

    Take an up-to-date example of where the owners have currently gone wrong, once they realised they had to spend some money to pull Arsenal out of their huge decline.

    So we have spent c. £130m to buy five or so players which helped to take some of the fans’ pressure off the owners (LB seems content, for example – but many others doubt the wisdom of the spending that has been made to date) — but contrast that with the money spent on one man who ripped into Arsenal last week — c. £97m on Lukaku — and the Chavs have more transfer targets in sight, as do many of the other top teams.

    Some of us think only one or two players in the Arsenal team would get a place in the squads of the top teams, and that includes the new players we have bought — so, the debate should be, ‘is it better to have one top powerful experienced player for £100m, or 5 promising but inexperienced players for an average of £35m?’

    I want only players transferred to Arsenal who would give us a real chance to compete with the best, of the top teams, rather than waiting for younger inexperienced players to mature over 2 or 3 seasons, when we already have good players coming thru who are probably just as good.

    The money needs to be better spent to get us top players who would frighten the top teams NOW.

  26. LB says:

    Hmmm, very good read RA. I am not necessarily content, I am not sure what to think really. 100mil just seemed pretty good but put in a different context what you say makes a great deal of sense.

  27. RA says:

    Hi LB,

    You are always very sensible where Arsenal are concerned, and you were right to politely suggest that the ‘spend’ probably needed a debate.

    Opinions will obviously differ, of course. 😜

  28. GoonerB says:

    Agree with that RA. My only caveat is that we can’t really dine at the top table where players are concerned right now. Even if prepared to spend it we aren’t a destination for your Haalands, Mbappe’s, Lukaku’s, Grealishes.

    Maybe in 2 to 3 seasons if we have become more competitive nearer the top end again but right now we need to be pragmatic in certain senses and find those players that will push us on. Those that will become a top player over the next year rather than being 3 years away.

    Thus is why I don’t think we can improve, for instance, in our strikers right now and should be happy and work with what we have. It’s still decent and can take us reasonably high.

    The only thing that might change a top player looking at us in the very near future would be a change of ownership to one that shows greater ambition. The mood may then change amongst top players in how they regard us. Fir now we have to hope that Arteta’s plan starts to bear fruition and we move up the league and then top players start to want to play for him.

  29. fatgingergooner says:

    We’d need to spend £300-£400m in one window to be even considered a strong team right now.

    Lukaku £100m
    Ronaldo £25m
    Varane £45m
    Grealish £100m
    Upamecano £40m
    Donnarumma Free
    Locatelli £35m

    That doesn’t even factor in wages, signing fees, or the fact that none of these players would ever come to a team finishing 8th and out of Europe. You could put Messi in his prime in our side right now and we wouldn’t win silverware. It’s going to be a long, slow build, and it could easily get worse before it gets better. We can only hope that the signings we have made come good.

  30. fatgingergooner says:

    At least when Arsenal had star players they did their best stuff at Arsenal. Chelsea and United celebrating their returning ‘heroes’ who peaked elsewhere.

  31. fred1266 says:

    So u saying ronaldo didn’t peak at United

  32. fred1266 says:

  33. Sue says:

    🤣 Come on the Arse!

  34. Aaron says:

    Kola, really Kola???
    This team set up has one goal in it max.

    Are we going to bore them to death?

    Watching this club is surreal…..

  35. RockyLives says:

    Loving Ode and ESR in the same team. Come on boys!

  36. Aaron says:

    Gundo with a header versus our giants, so predictable.

    So, Arteta will have to make use of some subs a lot sooner than later awe are already chasing the game.

    0-11 when down at halftime??

    F me…. this club, plays guys who have not played together in ages and expects a different outcome…

  37. LB says:

    This is nothing short of pathetic

  38. RockyLives says:

    We’re such a soft touch.

    Would it be better with our first choice CBs ? Who knows?

  39. RA says:

    Xhaka is just being Xhaka — pathetic.

  40. RockyLives says:

    It’s hard to watch this team sometimes.

  41. RC78 says:

    New post…

  42. Aaron says:

    We are falling like a rock….
    $h*tTy not even breaking a sweat, a stroll in the park.

    Graelish darn near walked that one in and put it on a plate for Jesus…

    This entire day was so predicable seeing that kola death lineup.

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