I have to admit to knowing very little about Bate Borisov – I didn’t even know they were based in Belarus, in fact I don’t even know where Belarus is! But, if they are in the Europa then they have to be decent opposition!
I have read that Hleb started his career at Bate, that they have won the Belarus League the last 11 years running, Their ground holds 13k and will be filled with Arsenal fans because Belarus has many Arsenal fan clubs.
Beyond that ….??
So, this PM will concentrate on the away team. How many goals have Arsenal conceded in their last 4 games? I will tell you. None. Given the start we had with 8 goals leaked in just 3 games, this is huge. Some may say that it is down to good fortune, fortunate refereeing decisions and poor opposition but the fact remains, we have gone 360+ minutes without conceding,
This is huge.
We are wonderful attacking players, so many that International first teamers cannot even get on the bench, but defenders? And defensive organisation?
And midfield control? Have we just been lucky or has Mr Wenger found a way to set up his team to stop the massive gaps exposed by Leicester and Liverpool?
Is the absence of Ozil and the resurgence of Ramsey just co-incidence?
3 games in 6 days means rotationand a chance to judge the quality of the squad.
Even allowing for over half the team being reserves we should still win tonight (though I hesitate to predict a victory as I usually put a bok on the team). A front line including Walcott, Sanchez and Giroud is potent.
Holding BFG Monreal
Bellerin Maitland- Niles Wilshire Elneny
Walcott Giroud Sanchez
Perhaps it would be good to start with Ryan Nelson but given Holdings frailty aon the right it makes sense to give him the security of Bellerin.
6 p.m. kick off (7.00 CET), ideal, wish there were more.
Our first away fixture in the Europa. It would be great to start with a win … Let it be So.
Bate were in the Champions League group stages in 2015/6 and actually beat Roma 3-2, drew 1-1 with Leverkusen but lost 0-2 to Barca, all at home.
Last season they went out of the CL in the 2nd qualifying round, losing to Dundalk on the away goals rule.
We conceded a goal to Cologne at home in our last Europa game but I can see how you’ve erased that from your memory. 🙂
Loving the 6pm kick off.
There might be a spell check glitch, otherwise I suspect Ryan Nelson is Reiss Nelson’s twin brother??
P.s. read somewhere that Sanchez didnt travel.
Hi Raddy it’s good to see you back in the drivers seat.
It’s tough to write about teams we don’t know, I’ll do a bit of sleuthing to see what I can dig up.
Raddy I found this in The Guardian
The reality of an uncomfortably compressed schedule this week has prompted Arsène Wenger to leave a host of first team players in London as the best of the rest travel to Belarus for a Europa League encounter against Bate Borisov.
The squad selected suggests Sunday’s Premier League match against Brighton is being prioritised. Alexis Sánchez, Mesut Özil, Alexandre Lacazette, Aaron Ramsey, Granit Xhaka, Laurent Koscielny and Héctor Bellerín are among those free to watch the game from the comfort of their homes, feet up, with no extra air miles and bleary-eyed overnight travel home to contend with during a busy month.
Wenger is confident he has brought enough know-how and quality to earn a positive result. There was always likely to be a different composition to the Europa League squad but the overall feel of the travelling party is more Carabao Cup than Champions League. It brings another opportunity for some of the youngsters trying to make an impression, and Reiss Nelson, Ainsley Maitland-Niles and the teenage midfielder Joe Willock are all likely to figure with a cluster of other youngsters on the bench.
Wenger expects leadership to come from members of the first-team squad who at the moment tend to be on the fringe when it comes to the preferred Premier League starting lineup. There will be game time for experienced heads led by Olivier Giroud, Theo Walcott and Per Mertesacker, and another opportunity for Jack Wilshere to continue his recent progress. Although Arsenal have got away with these mixed teams in the cup games so far this season, beating Cologne and Doncaster Rovers, there are moments when the defensive blend looks questionable – particularly without natural wing-backs – so that will be an area the Belarusians will look to exploit.
Bate Borisov, like Arsenal, have become accustomed to life in the Champions League – they made the group stages in five out of the past eight seasons – but are keen to make an impression in the Europa League. They opened the campaign with a 1-1 draw at Red Star Belgrade. Unusually, Bate are not actually top of their domestic league at the moment which is a surprise for a club who have completely dominated their nation’s football, having won the title in Belarus for 11 consecutive seasons.
This Europa League fixture does at least come between two home matches for Arsenal, even if the timings on either side are particularly unhelpful. Wenger stressed that his team selection has been impacted by the fact they played West Brom on Monday evening and will host Brighton on Sunday morning – the two worst possible slots in terms of preparation and recovery for an overseas trek.
Arsenal will return to London directly after the game in Borisov, the ground situated deep in a forest which is a good hour’s travel outside of the capital, Minsk. The lesser lights are challenged to show what they can do without a cluster of big guns.
Probable team: (3-4-3): Ospina; Holding, Mertesacker, Monreal; Nelson, Wilshere, Elneny, Maitland-Niles; Walcott, Giroud, Akpom
Thank you Erik
Good to see you back doing some work 🙂
GN5’s team looks likely given his inside info, although I’d prefer to see Iwobi in place of Akpom
Micky I would have been all at sea if I had to select today’s team.
I was surprised that the Guardian seem to have some inside information. It’s not a team that I would have chosen but it looks good enough for the game at hand.
I’m off out for most of the day – to meet with a surgeon for a consultation. Old age has some unexpected surprises.
Bum. Spell check did me on Mr Nelson.
The Koln goal, as you rightly say, has been expunged from my memory.
Thank you all for the Bate info – perhaps I should spend a little more time on research 😀
Raddy, your PM’ s are aways a joy to read and insightful. In fact they are the ideal start to my game days.
Research can be lenghty and many times fruitless. (except if it’s done by that Chas bloke)
Don’t change a thing.
I wonder where you can buy those Arsene Wenger mugs?
Thinking about AW mugs, Le Grove crossed my mind for the first time in quite a few years so I thought I would have a look. Where have all the adds gone? Why are there so few contributors? It’s so different.
I was glad to see I still have a comment in the AKB comments section; actually, truth be told, I am quite proud of it. lol
Ok, over we go to legrove to have a look at the LB comment. Back in a mo
ps Chas, the Fat Kim fish ‘n chips thing is brilliant
ha ha, ooh to be…. indeed 🙂
They have loads of ads. Anyway, a very good pic of tonight’s stadium, although not as good as my one with snow
Thinking of GN5’s team, surely Akpom must be about 45 yrs old by now and retired
Shouldn’t Bellerin get rest soon
Here’s another predicted XI I just found from some newspaper
Ospina; Holding, Mertesacker, Monreal; Nelson, Wilshere, Elneny, Maitland-Niles; Walcott, Giroud, Akpom
So, there you have Bell rested. I agree with you.Oh, and to answer my own earlier question, Iwobi is broken
That DT fellow. If your son acted like that when he was eight, you’d tell him to grow up. Jeez 🙄
Dont think Bellerin travelled, Fredster.
Fret ye not.
Excellent … thanks, and welcome back Raddy.
Absolutely we should prioritise the Brighton game. Start with Rohan Nelson, and Jack Derbyshire running the midfield all on his own 🙂
Our B team could finish in the top half of the EPL. I’m chilled about this game. Even if it doesn’t go our way, we have the ammo to get through to the next stage, at which point we may consider taking it more seriously.
We’re just building momentum in the EPL … 7th is so much more comfortable than 11th. The lunatic optimist in me thinks we will only go higher than 7th from now on.
That DT a*sehole has over 100k subscribers on youtube who watch videos of him recording himself as he watches games.
It’s almost beyond belief how lowlife some of the arsenal support has become.
I blame Pedro the twat and Thatcher.
Is it the top two from each group that go to the next round
Hoping for a trip to Zenit St Petersburg
100k..like, wow. That really is quite disturbing.
Just had a look to see if I was misleading you and it’s actually 130k!
Yep, top two from each of the 12 groups plus the 8 3rd placed teams from the CL groups go into the round of 32.
“plus the 8 3rd placed teams ”
Crikey. Very little to panic about. As Rasp says, you simply bring on the big guns for the last 30mins of home games if things looking a bit dodgy
ha ha, just noticed your blame Pedro and Thatcher
I certainly blame Thatcher for Erik 🙂
Pedro? An excuse would be a career thing, but to daily surround yourself with such utter misery is not a price worth paying. His Dad did the right thing. If it makes you miserable, jump.
I’ve got the headline for the match report ….. Arsenal Master Bate ….
If we get Zenit (other than a glamorous semi of final), what are the chances of you getting an away ticket……for me!
Win, lose or draw, that’s nailed on 🙂
🙂 … I wonder how many times we’ll see that tomorrow in headlines? I claim provenance 🙂
No silly jokes about shooting and pulling players off though if you don’t mind 🙄
Fairly good, Micky, depending on allocation and take up, of course.
Wow, what an exciting team.
Looks at the team sheet and asks himself why am I the only first team player to be included in such a far flung game.
Puts Mustafi’s name on the team sheet and says to himself, that will lean him to ask for a transfer.
Indeed, very exciting team.
The bench is very exciting as well
Love the look of that flat round meat and sauce stuff. Top presentation
Does the word Belarus come from Belle Russe, kinda beautiful Russia idea?
Chamakh was a greatly underestimated Italian waiter.
Rus, also known as Ruthenia, refers to the Eastern Slavic lands that nowadays belong mostly to Belarus and Ukraine. … While Bela does mean white, Rus is a different geographical and political term than Russia
The name Belarus is closely related with the term Belaya Rus’ , i.e., White Rus’. There are several claims to the origin of the name White Rus’. An ethno-religious theory suggests that the name used to describe the part of old Ruthenian lands within the Grand Duchy of Lithuania that had been populated mostly by early Christianized Slavs, as opposed to Black Ruthenia, which was predominantly inhabited by pagan Balts
So there, yer culture vultures
Must be a disappointment for Akpom not to start.
Micky. Did you know …. that the Vikings who rowed up the Volga and founded St Petersburg were called Russer (viking for rowers). Hence Russia
Come on one of my tours and learn more:-D
Of course I didn’t know that Erik
I’ll be using it in a casual surely everyone knows that kind of cocky know it all manner from here on 😎
Some really great stuff already
Thanks for the post Raddy, very informative indeed 😊
I don’t believe your story about Russian Vikings, you made it up
Oooooooh bates almost scored
Told you we were potent
This is sooo much better than that nasty league shit 😀
I don’t mind playing shit opposition
27 mins and 4 goals
And it’s on our big telly
Cracking half. End to end thrills. Bate’s goal was a cracker.
We had a dodgy 5 minutes but not the defensive frailty that the commentators keep harping on about, though Holding’s passing is a bit suspect.
Jack just magnificent. Willock and Nelson clearly inexperienced but a perfect game for them. M-N (Cons) looks very comfortable.
Really looking forward to the second half.
That is a good game so far.
Disappointed with the Bate goal. Maitland-Niles went missing leaving Holding exposed for a 2 v .
Ospina should have done better with the header – I know he is another short ass, but even so ….. should have palmed that over.
He made a great safe to push the Bate players cross cum shot – but height is his Achilles heel — umm, height and heel – interesting metaphor. 🙂
Can I change my opinion of the defence?
I am warming to Giroud 💃💃
It was the sound track wasn’t it Erik 🙂
I am convinced we can win this Cup because the team has the desire to do so. Players like Ospina, BFG, Holding, Wilshere, Walcott and Giroud want to show the fans, the team and the coach that they can achieve great things – throw in the mix Willock, Maitland and Iwobi and you have a team of hungry players. As we move closer to the next stage, I am sure the coach will start involving the likes of Bellerin, Ramsey, Cazorla, Ozil and Wellbeck more as well so what if we pulled a Man Utd this year? Give a shot to the top 4 but then clearly make the Europa League a priority?
Sorry for not been around much. Have become obsessed with 1960s show “The Invaders”. It’s fantastic, totally believable, Aliens taking human form and taking over the earth. I would also now like to make love to a women with a beehive, preferably in technicolor.
The only thing that puts me off is that the hero, David Vincent, happens to be an “Architect”? Giving an alien a beating with a four foot tape measure and designing a ground floor extension on a three bed semi, only to discover the Planner is an Alien so the design has to be reduced by half a metre is pushing its credibility.
That’s what I thought of Jacks performance? At times fantastic, he could pass a ball through a needle and design a Loft Dormer peering directly into your good looking neighbors bedroom, but is he the real deal?, or an injury waiting to happen? We will see.
Delighted for the youngsters. Willock really surprised me, bit like Vincent stoping the assisinatiion of the UN Secretary General by obtaining a court order for a Party Wall breach.
Overall a good run out, and no neighbour objections
This competition is more fun than I expected.
The interplay between the front line and Wilshere was superb in the first half all of which led to a three goal lead.
Tiredness started creeping in earlier than it should have in the second half and the sparkling interplay turned to greed as all the above started running down blind alleys rather than playing the simple pass to a team mate in a better position. The resulting frustration was personified by the looks of absolute disgust on the faces of Giroud and Wilshere when Walcott failed to find them.
However, just at the right time the ref gave us a helping hand and Giroud scored his 100th goal for the club from the spot.
Bate, to their credit, never gave up and came closer than was comfortable to leveling things.
Still, the second string held on all of which would have done the younger players confidence no harm at all.
Who would have thought that spur’s night would be this entertaining.
Great read as ever Terry.
haha excellent stuff Terry.
This Europa stuff couldn’t have come at a better time for Jack. If we were in the league would he be playing games? Maybe, but he definitely wouldn’t be starting. I hope his good run continues and he earns another contract. Then he can sign a movie deal when he scores a hat trick in the CL league final next year.
“But one of the few advantages of Alexis and Özil running their contracts down is that the manager does not have to handle their egos with kid gloves any longer. Nobody gives the guy serving his notice a company car.” (Tim Stillman)
This caught my eye and made a lot of sense.
3 FA Cups
I wonder how Giroud will be talked about when he eventually leaves the club?
The same as he’s talked about while he’s still playing for us, I’d imagine.
fattie – depends on who you’re talking to. Some will say he was pants, others that he was a great team player even if not the best striker, but most would probably agree that he was the best looking striker Arsenal ever had 🙂
I like Ollie, a lot. He gives his best in every game, 90 mins or a short quarter of an hour – he works for his corn. Good bloke.
LB – I am enjoying the competition too and have even allowed myself to hope we will win in Europe 🙂 Who else is in our group?
I think that Bata’s goalie was tragic, looked nervous, made all text book mistakes, lost them the game.
It was a fine evening of football with a sensible kick off time.
More of the same please.
its a sad sad world when you hear that Aguero was in a car accident and will be out of action for weeks and my first thought was, thank god I didnt transfer him into my fantasy team
Perfectly reasonable 🙂
It could also elevate The City January offer for Sanchez to more than 10p 🙂
VP – what?? is that true about Aguero? googling….
That is very sad but very funny VP
I am walking in the Swiss Alps this weekend, so no PM from BR.
It would appear Kroenke has made an offer for Usmanov’s shares.
No idea what it would mean but assume it might be of interest to some of you? 🙂
If Usmanov cashed in his shares to Kroenke, it is possible for two things to happen.
First, Usmanov might shack up wth his old mate and buy up the available shares at Everton and pour dollops of cash into their transfer kitty – and suddenly there would be 4 ultra rich kids on the block, with the Spuds, ‘Pool and ourselves left fighting for 5th, 6th and 7th place in the not too distant future. OK – I guess we already are in the eyes of some?
Secondly, Kroenke could then take the club private and avoid some of the governance issues faced by all public limited companies.
It would also enable him to publish less extensive information in the Published Accounts so no one outside the club management would ever know the full extent of of the owners vision etc, etc.
Don’t worry I will finish it there — otherwise, you guys would be bored – and so would I — Terry could give you the lowdown tho.:D
Did I see you flirting earlier today? 😀
aha Zee it was you, the clever machine 🙂
Yes, I am looking for a new blog
What topic of blog Eddie?
And, afternoon all
heterosexual sex micky.
That’s stopped Micky in his tracks, Eddie. 😀
Zee- I knew it would, he loves lezza stories 🙂
Yes Zee, it did 🙂
I was invited onto a closed google group thing last week, and having read posts over the past few days, decided I simply cannot join as I’d so strongly disagree with every single person on it
Hang on a sec Eddie, I thought you told us you hated all that full contact business
No idea what I think about any significant movement of Arsenal shares. The Europa experience may be altering my outlook. I’ve always wanted the CL Trophy before I snuff it, but realize what kind of club we’d have to become in order to compete, and I’m not sure I’d like that
micky – I do, I will not change my mind about hanky panky. I discovered another Arsenal blog, really good articles and beautifully presented. And, some bloggers criticize Wenger!!!! Revelation, I can let myself go 🙂
Zee goes under sooooo many different names my head is spinning
And on sooooo many other blogs too, Eddie! 😀
Very few speak to me on here, except for the occasional ‘old-timer’, and I have to find ‘chat blogs’ to talk Arsenal — and other rubbish!!
Did you see my poetic response to you regarding who the Post-writer was and when he is around?
You can do both — you have many friends on AA and they would miss you if you cut your ties with them. [I’m sure you won’t!] 😀
Arseblog has the best posts in my opinion, and was in fact, the first blog I ever came across. Don’t like the comments format, so have never read them
it was a very good poem, did YOU really write it? Hillarious. Zee, I am as guilty as the rest for not talking to you. I read your comments, check and google meanings of 5 syllabus words and forget to reply. Please do not take it personally, I tend to respond to micky only, not idea why.
The shares thing is speculation at the moment — and seems childish to me. Usmanov made a bid for Kroenke’s share so he may simply have retaliated.
I agree with you – winning at all costs is not for me – and yet I would like Arsenal to win – which they have done handsomely with the FA cup successes.
Difficult to get my head around, in a way — but the ‘at all costs’ stuff is not likely to sway me.
Yes Zee, agree, and I often wonder whether the Ems moved has enhanced the match day experience or not. I think my view is clouded by the inevitable newbie fans that arrived on the scene prior to leaving Highbury on the back of the early Arsene successes
That’s fine, Eddie — I don’t really mind being ignored for myself, there’s a big world out there, but the AA blog needs plenty of chat, and after so many years I still have an affection for AA, that’s why I still pop back to try and help, in the hope other faithful bloggers will realise the writing is on the wall, and help Chas and GN5 who carry the main load these days. [And you and your dogs …. of course] 😀
Oooops — that’s me sent to Siberia, again.
Thing is, the writing has been on the wall for years…and…here we are
I always have thought that people/bloggers have every right to say what they feel – even if I disagree with some of them – but there is an unpleasant undertone to some of the comments that are now accepted as ‘normal’.
Rasper will be on my case if I do not make it clear I am not talking about the gentle souls on here. 🙂
Eddie is right — if someone does not agree with the way the team is set up, or that the tactics are wrong or …….. (well you get my meaning) then, if the manager is seen as responsible, they should be allowed to say so. And vice-versa.
[Again, I am meaning that to be the case throughout the blogworld – but what do I know?]
Offski now — before I bore everyone – well you and Eddie anyway – Geronimo!! 😀
September 29, 2017 at 6:21 pm
Thing is, the writing has been on the wall for years…and…here we are.”
Fair enough, Micky.
Just looking at weekend fixtures
Apparently there’s a team called Liverpool Ladies, which I guess must be along the lines of Doncaster Belles 🙂
Just tuning in – I’ve been busy with Doctor’s today.
I’ve been blogging in various forms since the early 90’s – Kelsey introduced me to AA in Sep 2010 and it became the main site that I blog on. Certain people on the site have really got under my skin over the years and have caused me to seek out other blogs (after some unsavoury personal attacks) but AA has folks that have a diverse body of knowledge – which I enjoy so here I stay.
I have no issue with those that are anti Wenger so long as they don’t keep on saying the same thing in different ways over and over and over – that drives me crazy and drives me away (for a while).
Zee you are one of the most well respected bloggers that I know so I wish you were on here far more frequently than you are currently.
I write posts to fill in the voids and some of them get very minimal response – but I stick with it and try to stay positive regardless.
I generally think the lack of in depth knowledge is the glue that keeps the thing together
Big fan of ill informed opinions when it comes to trivial matters like football 🙂
Hope doctor was ok, also hope that you’ve made appropriate provision in your will to hand over that Amstrad Home Computer of yours, along with all those AFC related floppy discs to Arsenal FC 🙂
Eddie has been talking about claustrophobia and secret whatsapp groups to Red Arse and Norfolk Gooner on ACLF.
Btw, the last comment on the secret whatsapp group was on 11th September when BR was asking if someone would publish a post for him as he was working.
I hope the doctor appointment was ‘just’ a check-up and all is well — altho perhaps you have not had the results yet.
Anyway – I wish you well.
Thanks Zee. It was an appointment to discuss the results about some very scary tests I had. Unfortunately for some the results were excellent and the Dr. was amazed that given my age the results were so good. So my longevity chart still has no known end.
I’m off to write a PM for Raddy, while he spends some time walking in the mountains.
Micky I find the banter a lot of fun and Terry adds a wonderful and very unique sense of humour while Chas never fails to entertain us all with all of his fine tweets and comments.
naughty Eddie, naughty, naughty Eddie
but the secret app exists, see, I thought it did 🙂
look, confession time. I have been going through some serious scenarios in my life and on top of it some bright spark decided to twick my meds. That sent me loopy. I know it is not an excuse for bad behaviour but I genuinely apologise for upsetting people, especially GN5 and chas. I am back on my happy pills and love you all again.
Seriously though, I am sorry.
No problem Eddie – just take very good care of yourself.
Mendy out for season and Aguero out for over month. Can’t make this stuff up. Oh well, let the Arsenal collect a few more points this weekend.
There are loads of secret apps. My Daughter is for ever trying to secret facetimeapp me, and secret messengerapp me, while she also uses secret whatsuppapp at me as well.
Stick to what you know I say. Secret blogging is the simplest 🙂
thank you GN5
micky – I don’t like secrets and secret societies. Take Free Masons for example – there are a few of them at the allotment and guess what – they always have best plots, are members of the committee, looking well after each other. I stopped talking to them and there was a backlash, surprise surprise. I wonder how many AAers have a secret handshake?
I was asked to be a mason and told the bloke it was full of pigs, so no thanks
pigs ??!! 🙂 🙂 ha ha ha, why pigs, they are such lovely gentle creatures
but you could have a lovely rent free allotment plot 🙂
the game is tomorrow, pssssshhh
A late good morning all.
Unlike last week, we have the opportunity to gain some points against our rivals this weekend …
Re the blog: … I think it is stronger now than for some time ….. after 6 years we’re already becoming nostalgic about ourselves 😆
AFL grand final today. My team Richmond won. It was only 37 years since the last one. My school friend is now CEO of Richmond and was a past celebrated player through the lean years.
100,021 in attendance
They interviewed one of the payers afterwards and it went something like this on Live TV “last season we finished 13th and lost our last game by over 100 points. Look at us now, we are F#cking Champions”
It was great, I could hear the constant roar of the MCG from my house.
Ozil out injured, Kos in doubt
more horrific results today 😦
at least chavs and City cannot both win by 4 goal difference
So far so good, City are awesome even without Louis and Sergio.
That Fabregas dude is very good too. Remind me why he is not playing for us?
Evening all. Many thanks to Raddy and GN5 for recent posts. Sorry I didn’t have time to comment properly.
First can I ask who is going tomorrow and is it feasible to get a light ale anywhere with a 12 kick off?
One thing I would like to see with Arsenal now is that we promote both Iwobi and Jack ahead of Ozil. I have never been an Ozil detractor and like him but he hasn’t signed a lucrative contract and we have excellent, if not world class, options with players who are committed or more likely to be committed to us.
I know he is injured now but I think he needs to understand that a deal needs to be done in Jan or else he risks minimal playing time in a world cup year.
Probably can’t comment tomorrow but I would like to see Ramsey in the all action CM role with another, and Jack in Ozils role as a double number 10 with Alexis playing behind Lacazette.
great game from City, well deserved win
Blimey, I didn’t know that Ancellotti was fired by BM following the CL defeat to PSG. Most managers must be gagging to replace Wenger in 2 years
Kings Head have suggested they will be open after 10am.