Welbeck to Start.

Any trip to Old Trafford is cause for trepidation and despite MU’s poor recent form, this afternoon is no exception. It is 10 years since we won at their miserable, ugly, prawn-ridden stadium.

True, United no longer get sent out to kick two-colours out of our lads by the inspirational red-nosed alkie – instead they are inspired by Oliver & Hardy (LVG & Giggsy).


LVG asking Giggs if he should sub Carrick

It has been an underwhelming season so far for MU, especially given their huge financial investment into the squad. 10 points behind us and 15 off the top is not what MU’s board would have hoped for.

BUT, the Mancs always raise their game against us. Just think back to the stand-out moments of recent seasons; the PV4/Keane battle, AW sent to the stands surrounded by bile-spewing muppets, Rooney’s dives, RvP’s goal off his shoulder (for MU), Fellaini. There always seems to be some misfortune which follows Arsenal at OT.

For example, De Gea returns from injury as does Smalling (wish AW had signed him), Martial and Rojo. This will not be the massively weakened MU we have seen over recent weeks.

There are concerns about our goal-scoring; almost 6 weeks since OG’s last goal, Sanchez playing way-below form, Theo ineffective, Ramsey not being able to hit a cow’s arse etc etc. However, in Ozil/Welbeck we have the keys to drive us to victory, not just today but in the title run-in.

I fervently wish for Welbeck to start today. Quite where he fits in I cannot fathom but we need his pace and strength. Where do you think he should play? He is naturally a left-sided attacker but that is where Sanchez plays and Alexis is undroppable.

We have succeeded in Manchester by parking the bus, playing a pressing game and attacking on the break. I think a similar plan would be effective this afternoon – it almost worked on Tuesday.

In an attempt not to repeat myself 🙂 I will not write of my admiration for Aaron Ramsey nor the need to remain vigilant for the excellent United wing play – Depay is starting to look like the world’s most expensive teenager again.

Nor will I mention Leicester or the need to keep pace with the excrement from N15. If we are to win the title a point today is the least we should hope for.

At this time in a post I often reflect upon my feelings about our opposition. For some reason I do not hate MU this season! Is it because of the humour and humanity of LVG, the awful run of injuries, the difficulty of changing from the SAF old guard to a new MU filled with exciting attacking intent (that is a joke) or just that it is an unpleasant trait to laugh at those who are going through tough times? Whatever the reason, I find I have some sympathy for our old rivals plight.

I still want to beat them though.

A repeat of the thrashing we gave United at the Emirates would be lovely






307 Responses to Welbeck to Start.

  1. Eddie says:

    cheers Raddy, great prematch you soft git!

    No sympathy here, hate United and their fans. The arrogant northerners are only getting back what they deserve – upsetting fans all over the country for all those years will not be forgotten or forgiven

    Remember the Wenger chant? Those are are opponents today – filthy northern bas**s

  2. TotalArsenal says:

    Back to footie again, Raddinski, and lovely to read between the lines your love of football and human warmth. 😍

    An attack of Sexy Alexis – Le Hunk – Prodigal Son would do it for me. Manure never spared us when we were down and we need to be equally ruthless: the boys owe it to the loyal away support.


  3. kelsey says:

    I remember those two on the sleeve of Sargeant Peppers album.

    thanks again raddy.

    No prediction from me, though I do hope Ozil plays and Welbeck .Last time we scored more than 2 at OT was in 1935, so here’s hoping.

  4. scully says:

    You are spot on…..with your accessment of Ramses…i seen it year in year out we suffer from premier ejaculation…all the promise at the beggining but never climax at the right times…..so disgusting.Hope we do something this time around.

  5. Rasp says:

    Beautifully constructed PM Raddy.

    Nothing to argue with. I too hope Welby starts and at least one of Sanchez or Ollie get their radar set on goal.

    I see this game and the NLD as the two most importantly remaining games. Win both and keep our composure in the others and we should win the league.

  6. JM says:

    My starting team:

    Cech; Bellerin, Mertesacker(c), Koscielny, Monreal; Coquelin, Elneny; Welbeck, Ramsey, Ozil; Alexis

    {Welbeck – Ramsey – Ozil – Alexis = positions interchangeable}

    Ospina, Gabriel, Chambers, Gibbs, Campbell, Walcott, Giroud

  7. LB says:

    Hmm, yep good point Rasp, this and the NLD are the two important ones, if we win those and keep out composure we will win the league.

    Good read as ever BR. Thanks for taking the trouble.

  8. JM says:

    Arsenal F.C. (Star Player focus) and the last from list:

  9. JM says:

    Alexis Sánchez, FW
    DF:8, MF: 32, FW: 60
    Skill: The Turn & Volley Gunner
    Teamstyle: Offence-type (Finished Work, a.k.a. “The Finisher”)

  10. JM says:

    (In-form) Alexis Sánchez, FW

  11. JM says:

    (“Red Hot Chile”; “INTI RAYMI”) Alexis Sánchez, FW
    Skill: The Mighty Wonder Action
    Teamstyle: Offence-type (Moving Pass Work)

  12. chas says:

    Thanks, BR, perfect scene-setting.

    Let’s hope Danny has a really big game today.

  13. Red Arnie says:

    Fantastic PM as ever, Raddy. 🙂

    I agree with the idea of Welbz starting. As an interchangeable part of the front three.


  14. Red Arnie says:

    I’m not livid, but very sad

  15. wally says:

    Big game.
    I’d love for us to thrash them. The sound of manure fans moaning is music to my ears.
    I’d love to remind them they’ve become the new liverpool.

  16. fatgingergooner says:

    Good stuff BR, and not a Viking in sight! 😄

    Fingers crossed for 3 points. A nice controversial 3 points would be even better! Who’s the ref?

  17. Red Arnie says:

    apparently Rashford will start for ManUre

  18. Rasp says:

    An hour to go …. getting nervous 😕

    I think patience is the key word. If the worst happens and we go one down, the first priority should be to not concede a second.

    Obviously the key element in our attack play has to be our finishing.

  19. chas says:

  20. Red Arnie says:

    FGG. Craig Pawson. Who?

  21. Rasp says:

    Excellent, Danny starts, hopefully his example will get the best out of Theo.

  22. fatgingergooner says:


    Sanchez Welbeck Walcott

    Up against

    Varela Carrick Blind Rojo.

    Like the sound of that, although De Gea is stood behind them which may be the main contest.

  23. Rasp says:

    Well we’ve certainly got the strongest bench … by a country mile 🙂

  24. Red Arnie says:

  25. Red Arnie says:

    Big chance for Theo and Welbz. COYG. 🙂

  26. Red Arnie says:

    poor me. I tried to post the ManUre team, and look what came out!

  27. mickydidit89 says:

    Superb erik thanks
    Danny at cf for me
    On mobile most of day but watching on big screen at mates
    Come on yo ginnnners

  28. fatgingergooner says:

    That Man United bench is something else.


  29. fatgingergooner says:

    Come on you Ginners? I like your style Micky!

    Rasp, snap! 😄

  30. chas says:

  31. chas says:


  32. fatgingergooner says:

    Looking at the line ups, If we win the midfield battle then we should win the game.

  33. kelsey says:


    not a bad picture of me,when angry

  34. Big Raddy says:

    Our bench looks very good as opposed to MU’s.

    MU look weak at CB, we can win this.


  35. Red Arnie says:

    we prefer the hairy Crystals. 🙂

  36. Red Arnie says:

    In my local pub, food and drinks ordered, all set. COYG. 🙂

  37. Rasp says:

    GiE, I hope you’re watching the game somewhere comfortable with your young guns in full kit 😀

  38. Red Arnie says:

    yes, GiE, echo Rasp’s sentiments. 🙂

  39. kelsey says:

    Three wins in the last nine across all competitions with five scoreless performances underlines that Arsenal are not in the best of form. Thank god United aren’t much better with just two more wins in the same period.(ACLF)

    Not often a game of this magnitude has these rivals in such poor form, yet United remain our nemesis, so let’s hope for a change.

    Giroud gets dropped so a front three of Sanchez,Welbeck and Walcott.

    The mystery to me is the lack of goals from our usual goalscorers and today is the day to change that, let’s hope.

    Gabriel and Kos as mertesacker gets benched and I think that will will become our first choice centre pairing.

    Ozil needs to step up from last Tuesday, because when he is on form it radiates through the team.

    Enjoy the game wherever you are.

  40. RockyLives says:

    So every tu’ppeny ha’ppeny goalkeeper has a blinder against us.

    Maybe De Gea – being rather more than tu’penny ha’ppeny – will have a stinker? 😀

    Great – if somewhat cautious – pre-match BR.

    It’s time to win in the league at Old Toilet. Come on lads.

  41. Eddie says:

    oi gorgous- where are you? at Mancunia?

  42. Eddie says:

    isn’t de Gea injured?

  43. kelsey says:

    he will be, Eddie, just wait 10 minutes 😉

  44. Eddie says:

    no, he isn’t. LVG playing mind games,

  45. RockyLives says:

    If it wasn’t for our terrible finishing lately I’d be feeling more confident…

  46. Red Arnie says:

    agree, Rocky

  47. RockyLives says:

    Would rather have BFG than Paul Easter starting.

  48. Eddie says:

    we have not won at OT in 10 years??? OMG. got to put that stat right

    Kels – how? you are going to attack him? 🙂

  49. RockyLives says:

    Here we go again. Create a ‘must score’ chance and eff it up…

  50. Eddie says:

    yep. poor Ozil

  51. RockyLives says:

    If we had had even average finishing lately Mesut would probably have broken the Premier League assist record by now.

  52. Red Arnie says:

    I thought it was Monreal

  53. RockyLives says:

    Montreal missed from Mesut’s assist Arnie

  54. Eddie says:

    Webb would have had a field day today. Penalty guaranteed

  55. Eddie says:

    Rocky – did you not read the new AA code of conduct – no repeating yourself

  56. RockyLives says:

    Too true Eddie. This ref has been OK so far.

  57. RockyLives says:

    What’s my repetition Eddie? (apart from generalized repetitive drivel)

  58. RockyLives says:

    I had a look in yesterday Eddie then stayed well away!

  59. Rasp says:

    Oh Denis, has our finishing let us down already? 😦

  60. RockyLives says:

    Great move, Rasp, left Nacho one on one with De Gea two yards out – he hit it straight at De Gea.

  61. Rasp says:

    And the good news is that the totts are 1 down 🙂

  62. Eddie says:

    oh no Rocky , I read your comment re BFG twice 🙂 🙂 doh

  63. Rasp says:

    WTF Rocky, are our players really so lacking in composure? Who knows how important that miss will be ………

  64. RockyLives says:

    Haha Eddie – double vision?

  65. RockyLives says:

    Are the Totts playing now? Crikey.

  66. RockyLives says:

    Being fair to Nacho, he had a split second to react, but it’s just typical that he hit it straight at the GK

  67. kelsey says:

    Monreal looks the most likely to score.Welbeck looks good thee others in attack not doing enough IMO

  68. RockyLives says:

    Is Theo playing?

  69. Eddie says:

    no Rasp, our players are fine. The mancs have 3 yellows already
    it wasn’t a miss, it was a save from de Gea

  70. kelsey says:

    i say that nearly every week,RL 😉

  71. RockyLives says:

    Have to disagree Eddie. When you hit it straight at the GK it’s a miss. If De Gea had done nothing but stand still, Nacho still wouldn’t have scored.

  72. Red Arnie says:


  73. RockyLives says:

    How can we make even this shower of shite look good?

  74. Rasp says:

    Ok, so we have conceded. The first priority is to gain control of the game and not concede a second

  75. Red Arnie says:

    very poor defending

  76. RockyLives says:

    Fat chance Rasp. 0-2 now.

  77. Rasp says:

    I don’t believe it????? Who trains these players? How can we lack the discipline to do the obvious?

  78. Red Arnie says:

    spot on Rocky, but alas!

  79. RockyLives says:

    We are useless in midfield. Ramsey just not working there. On form Sanchez should not be on the pitch. I would take him off now and put Ollie on and switch Theo to left wing.

  80. RockyLives says:

    Maybe Elneny for Ramsey.

  81. Rasp says:

    Where are our leaders on the pitch when we need them?

  82. RockyLives says:

    It’s the finishing again. If Nacho scores that gilt edged chance it’s a different game.

  83. RockyLives says:

    Without the BFG we have no composure playing out from the back.

  84. Rasp says:

    Leicester must be loving this

  85. Rasp says:

    I think we are missing Santi

  86. Red Arnie says:

    ok, one down, two to go

  87. RockyLives says:

    2-1 – Welbeck

  88. Rasp says:

    It’s gonna be a high scoring game then 🙂

  89. RockyLives says:

    That’s what was in my mind when I made the comment about midfield Rasp.

  90. Rasp says:

    Just for once I’d like to see an early substitute. By the sound of it, Theo is not involved at all??? My cunning plan is that he will score now to prove me wrong 😉

  91. Red Arnie says:

    Theo, Easter, Rambo, three passengers. in that order

  92. RockyLives says:

    In fairness it’s not entirely Theo’s fault that he’s not involved. We are making no progress down our right wing, partly because Bellerin has to hang back because of the speed of Memphis, so Theo’s getting no service.

  93. RockyLives says:

    They haven’t shown the handball appeal. Surely not three blatant handball penalties not given in three league games?

  94. leandro brazil says:

    Arsene wenger decreased arsenal 10 years without winning the league premiere. If you do not win this year, he does not win anymore, still coming pepe guardiola for M city .

  95. Aaron says:

    Theo gave up the gd ball for their 1st goal. His only contribution so far! Arsenal can win this game. manure has 2 defenders on yellow. Just need to go at them.

  96. Rasp says:

    Giroud for Theo has to be the first sub if it’s still 2:1 after an hour. Put OG in the middle and move Danny out wide

  97. Rasp says:

    These are season defining decisions that AW has to get right.

  98. Big Raddy says:

    What worried me most was the lack of response after their first goal which, to be fair, was Utd’s first shot of the game and came from an unfortunate ricochet.

    After that we seemed to want to slow the game and then stupidly got caught.

    Welbz goal was important – go in two down and we are sunk but right now I believe we can still get at least a point.

    Another worry is that we are under-manned in midfield. Utd have Mata, Sniffler and Hermione (BTW their combined transfer fees is £92m!!). We are using just two with Ozil/Sanchez/Walcott coming back to assist.

    It isn’t working

  99. RockyLives says:

    I don’t know tactical bollix but…

    Our midfield worked best when we had Santi and Coq sitting deep, with Aaron on the right. We scored more goals with that team, even though playing Ramsey wide seems – on paper – a less attacking line-up than having someone like Theo wide.

    The reason we scored more goals was because we controlled the ball in midfield and fed Ozil, giving him time to create great chances.

    We do not control the midfield in most big games without Santi. Man City at home is the one exception I can think of, but we had the hard-working Campbell in that game, who contributed more to our balance than either Alexis or Theo have done today.

  100. kelsey says:

    I would go go further Rasp and swap them now.Walcott is distinctly average against a very average United side.

    Gabriel and Kos isn’t working either, didn’t last time.

    Is history against us yet again but in all honesty our attacking threat is pretty shite and Ozil is getting pissed off and so am I

  101. kelsey says:

    Iwobi may also come on,do something AW one point isn’t enough.

  102. RockyLives says:

    I know Theo is everyone’s preferred hate figure, but no-one has been a bigger passenger than Alexis I’m afraid. Loses possession for us every time he receives the ball.

  103. Rasp says:

    I don’t have a stream Rocky, all my comments are based on text updates/live text commentary. Who is most likely to get their mojo back and score …… Theo or Alexis?

  104. RockyLives says:

    Er… neither, Rasp.

  105. RockyLives says:

    Or on who’s most likely to put away a clear chance, I would say Theo.

  106. Rasp says:

    So bring them both off and put on Giroud and Iwobi. We have 40 minutes to rescue our title hopes, bold action is required.

  107. GoonerB says:

    Great post Raddy. I think we should simply just start playing like a team that would like to win the league.

  108. Big Raddy says:

    Rasp. You know that will never happen.

    Theo having an awful game so far. At least Sanchez is busy.

  109. RockyLives says:

    Haha – that’s about the size of it GB

    Rasp – definitely time for subs.

  110. RockyLives says:

    FFS – our passing is shocking.

  111. RockyLives says:

    Unforced errors time after time, as well as lots of bad options taken. There is a real malaise in this team.

    Still, I think we’ll go on and win it 3-2 😀

  112. RockyLives says:


  113. RockyLives says:

    We’ll have to win 4-3

  114. Red Arnie says:

    very good goal. and it was coming.

  115. Why didn’t anyone ever sit Theo down and tell him he could be a great winger? Bad decision to let him think that wearing no 14 was enough to make him a striker.

    Anyway Giroud on now and he owes us.

    Oh buggier they’ve scored a third 😦

  116. Red Arnie says:

    sorry, just saw the deflection

  117. RockyLives says:

    It’s a Kozzer own goal

  118. Rasp says:

    Ok, so we don’t deserve to win the title. We need to sit down and have a long hard look at ourselves. This is under-performing on an epic scale.

    To let a manu side that is decimated by injuries put 3 goals past us is unforgiveable.

  119. RockyLives says:

    I’m afraid you’re right Rasp. I’ll be surprised if we keep it to only 3-1 the way we’re playing.

    A lot of our team should be ashamed of themselves today, but the inability to perform in these games time and again suggests the problems go deeper.

  120. fatgingergooner says:

    I’m not watching rest of this. Pathetic.

  121. RockyLives says:

    3-2 – Ozil

    Scrappy goal – appropriate for the game

  122. Ooh to ooh to be ……… 3-2

  123. Red Arnie says:

    ok, game on, let us see.

    Agreed, Rasp, shocking defence

  124. kelsey says:

    Even at 3-2 as it stands we are nowhere near title contenders and it’s looked like that for months.
    Giroud has got the right needle that Walcott was preferred to him, and he has a good case.If it was me i wouldn’t have either in my side next season.

  125. Big Raddy says:

    This is a terrible performance from Arsenal. Only Welbeck can say he has had a decent afternoon.

    Everything has been out of sorts. Our passing, the timing of the runs, the creativity, teamwork, defensive cohesion. etc

    Wht has happened

    BTW MU have been very lucky as well

  126. Rasp says:

    Totts have just scored, it is vital we equalise ….. otherwise the pressure next week will destroy this team.

  127. Rasp says:

    No luck involved …. if we’ve been terrible, luck has played no part.

  128. Never mind the team Rasp, it’ll destroy us 😦

  129. RockyLives says:

    Totts will win.

    Our form for weeks shows we have no chance of the title.

  130. Big Raddy says:

    Rasp. Don’t start that. It was a terrible deflection off Kos which gave MU their 3rd.

  131. Rasp says:

    True Peaches 😦 I’m already in bits 😦

    Our midfield is not working, our defenders are nervy and our strikers aren’t scoring ….. not a lot to be optimistic about at this point.

    Totts just went 2:1 up

  132. I’m going right off footbal

  133. RockyLives says:

    I hope Leicester can stop the Totts winning it.

  134. Rasp says:

    Raddy, the deflection can happen to anyone. They got into a position to shoot and then took a shot – you create your own luck in a situation like that, but only if you make it happen by the right endeavour.

  135. Rasp says:

    10 minutes … have we made any subs?

  136. RockyLives says:

    Whatever happens in the remainder of this game, we have been awful today. But I bet we beat the Totts next week.

  137. RockyLives says:

    Elneny for Coq about 5 minutes ago Rasp

  138. Rasp says:

    No Giroud???? why????

  139. RockyLives says:

    Giro’s been on for quite a while Rasp – came on for Theo

  140. RockyLives says:

    Now Iwobi for Welbz

  141. Rasp says:

    OK, that’s the last throw of the die then

  142. RockyLives says:

    They’ve just shown Utd’s third again. Truly shocking defending to allow Herrera to run thirty yards unwatched and shoot with all the time in the world. I’m afraid we’re not playing like a team that wants to win the league.

  143. Big Raddy says:

    As I wrote at halftime, I cannot understand the lack of urgency.

    Come on Arsenal

  144. kelsey says:

    The sadest thing for me is to see Sanchez so out of form

  145. Five minutes at Old Trafford, how things have changed 🙂

  146. kelsey says:

    And how many chances have we created in the second half. A game to forget (again)

  147. Ozil is proper pissed off

  148. Red Arnie says:

    ok, very poor performance, very sad. now the critics can have a field day,

    sadly, even GiE is off, so even less of a chance to find some positivity here.

    so, I think it is fair that I should take a sabbatical as well. goodbye.

  149. RA says:

    Manure Youth Team 3 Arsenal 2

    Disgraceful performance.

  150. Eddie says:

    poor Ozil. He tries, but he cannot carry the whole team on his shoulders.

    I begin to hate Wenger.

  151. RockyLives says:

    We can’t beat the worst Chelsea team for years and we can’t beat the worst ManU team for years. Says it all.

  152. Red Arnie says:

    sorry, I should have said, continue my sabbatical. bye.

  153. RockyLives says:

    OK – obviously hurting now. But – trying to write with some perspective – this result is not a huge surprise: we have not looked like a smoothly functioning team since the Man City game at home.

    We have stayed in touch with the leaders just about, but I think we all know that the team is not quite clicking. In short, we have not looked like champions elect.

    Is that the manager? Santi’s injury? Poor finishing? Too many players out of form at the same time?

    That’s the question and I don’t have the answer…

  154. Ian RealGunner says:

    Disgrace to the club – no passion, no bottle – title gone for another year, and with Guardiola coming in, for a long time to come

  155. I know it’s been said before but last season Alexis dug us out of a few holes and sadly he’s completely out of form.

    As a team we’re carrying too many players that have been game changers with unexpected goals in the past and it’s just not happening at the moment.

  156. RockyLives says:

    Peaches – but why is not happening? Just bad luck that they all lose form at just the moment when they need to be stepping up a gear?

    It’s so frustrating.

  157. RockyLives says:

    I don’t know if it would have made any difference to the result, but I think we would have looked more composed in possession if the BFG had played.

  158. Ian RealGunner says:

    I think that this game was a defining one for a number of players who will continue to let us down – Theo for one in my opinion

  159. RockyLives says:

    I think Theo, Alexis, Ramsey, Bellerin all had very bad games, particularly when it came to losing possession.

    We looked frightened.

  160. kelsey says:

    Beaten by primarilly a bunch of rookies.Our confidence is low anyway and it showed.We looked poor in every part of the field.United could get top four so we better look out. Based on our last 8 league games we would be near the relegation zone.

    We just don’t turn up yet again.

    Arnie why run away or take a sabatical.One can have far more diverse discussion in the situation we find our team in the way we are playing and why has it all gone pear shaped.

    Wenger has to take responsibility, this is not a one off occurence.

  161. David Sharpe says:

    please do a piece about how much wenger has “earned” since he has “managed” our great club

  162. kelsey says:

    laurel and hardy, Raddy, how apt 😉

  163. David Sharpe says:

    as i see it the only way things will ever change is to get kronke out

  164. Rasp says:

    You write it David if you think it is relevant ……..

  165. Rocky – if I knew why I would be a hero 😉

  166. Jeremy says:

    Man that was disappointing. Didn’t look like a team that wants the title at all.

  167. Rasp says:

    Has Arsene given his post match interview yet? If yes, what did he say?

  168. David – I’m not sure how the owner of the club is relevant at this stage of the season …….. several of our players seem to be out of form, they all knew how to play together a few weeks ago so the biggest question is what’s happened?

  169. The coverage switched to the COC final Rasp and to be honest I couldn’t be bothered to switch channel to hear what they said.

  170. RockyLives says:

    Can’t be bothered listening Rasp, I’m afraid.

  171. Aaron says:

    Not even mad; quite surreal really-felt the game was going to go this way when I got up at 6am California time…
    Lost to a youth team today, and we played with 10 men.
    Will write more tomorrow.
    FA Cup it is….
    Put in under 21’s in CL, sub a lot through the next 10 games and WIN the FA Cup 3X in a row!

  172. Le Coq Monster says:

    Feel lucky that Mansour City, Manshafter Std and Chavs are having a bad season otherwise we wouldn`t be in with a shout for CL spot !.
    Use your brains Gooners, this season is an anomoly, next season will see the normal/pecking order resumed !……………well apart from us !. In the next few seasons we will see the Spuds, W Ham with new stadiums and Liverpool/Chavs with renovated ones, but the big difference will be is that they have one company owners or die hard fans as joint owners who will do anything to bring success to their clubs !.
    We have a great stadium, training ground etc`, but it will not now be the best, our competitors will or have caught us up in the stadium stakes !.
    The one biggest obstacle for our future is Kroenke !……………..whilst we have two majority shareholders not willing to put their money in their pockets ( and who can blame them when neither is the outright owner) we will undoubtably fall behind.
    Even if Wenger retires next season and we get worse, it wont be because of him leaving, the rot of Kroenke and the others new stadiums has already set in, even a new manager will not change it, not even if we had got Guardiola !, he`s no mug, he would never have become our manager knowing our limited spending power !.
    Only Usmanov or a richer one owner will save us, this is the start of barren years, get used to it.
    It may take for us to be so shit that the supporters turn against Kroenke and he decdes to sell up, so even being as pathetic as we can be may be a blessing in disguise in the long run !. What ever needs to be done to get Kroenke out I hope happens, even if it means dropping down a division !……that wont happen as even though there will be six teams with as good or better stadiums and better finances, there wont be 19 !………….from next season onwards we will be at most after the 4th place trophy again, but more like EL spot !

    Kroenke Out !

  173. Rasp says:

    Thanks for that Cockie … the only trouble is that there is no way of removing the owner of a business, he will only leave (sell out to be precise) if he chooses.

    Personally, I can’t see why you think he is to blame. We had more than enough talent on the pitch and the bench to win that game comfortably – but we are not functioning as a team, and that has nothing to do with Kroenke.

  174. According to Twitter AW must’ve said something about not faulting our commitment, intensity and desire. But don’t quote me 😉

  175. Jeremy says:

    I honestly don’t see what good it does to blame kroenke.
    We fielded a team who should have been well capable of beating that united side.
    Why so many players are completely underperforming I’ve no idea though.

  176. chas says:

    There may have been commitment, intensity and desire, but there certainly wasn’t much team play, goal threat or in-game nous.

    It feels over.

  177. Jeremy – I think the expectation is that the owner should put pressure on the Manager which we kinda think doesn’t happen.

    However I would argue that these are all professional footballers that should definitely be able to sort this out for themselves whether AW is responding to pressure or not.

  178. Jeremy says:

    The strange thing was we seemed to play more like a team that’s safe from relegation with a few games to go rather than a team needing a win for a chance at a title.

  179. Oh no Chas, not you too lol

    Hurts more to have those scummers above us 😦

  180. Jeremy says:

    That’s fair enough Peaches.

  181. chas says:

    Haha, I thought I’d give it a go.
    Don’t like feeling left out. 😆

    We don’t deserve to be higher than 3rd though.

  182. chas says:

    Hey, I could grow to like this…………

  183. Jeremy says:

    Probably the best performance by a ref in an arsenal/united game at old trafford

  184. Eddie says:

    2 years ago Wenger signed a new 3 year contract. He must have had negotiations with the board, owners, agents. He could have said that part of the deal is that they give him £100m a year for a couple of years to strengthen the team. Instead he probably agreed to doing his best on a budget well below competitors.

    I am sorry all Wenger lovers, but he let us down. He pockets his millions year after year, but allows us be humiliated time after time.

  185. Eddie says:

    Jeremy – yes, what a good ref he was, what’s his name?

  186. GoonerB says:

    Oh dear. I hate it as a cliche but that did feel like the day we lost the title.

  187. Le Coq Monster says:

    Well Rasp, it wont surprise you to know that imo todays loss by a team of talented players against an under strength Manshafter team is down to the manager and his tactics/formations !………….get a manager who can make talented players work their socks off by pressing etc`, then you have a chance !………using Barca as an example, great players who are not to big on ego`s to think that with their talent comes hard work to be succesful . The spud boss is doing it with lesser players, do I need to say more !.
    My point about Kroenke is for the future, I know we cant make him sell his shares, I just wish he would !. It`s bad enough that I really think the spuds are going to win the EPL, but for them to in the future dominate us is of nightmare proportions !……………just think and this goes for W Ham too with Gold and Sullivan, they have Levy and Lewis who are like you and me, nutty fans !, a new stadium generating as much as us, but owners who care and think about their team …..well if like me…most minutes of the day !….do you think they will try to out spend us ?…..haven`t they already out spent us over the years with less revenue ?………….and how about W Ham !…..they will probably have more money than the Spuds !, 2-3 million rent that includes about everything from policing, stewards to cutting the grass !…..If Gold and Sullivan are willing to spend money on the porn industry, I`m sure as die hard hammer nuts they will spend more on football, something more important !. hahaha.
    Have we or will we ever see Kroenke spends his own money on players ?…..shares, yes !
    If you cant see how relevant Kroenke is to the equation of our future, then I`m gobb smacked !…..jsu compare owners Mansour and Abramovitch to our major shareholder !……the thing is, even if he owned the club outright he would not spend !.

  188. Big Raddy says:

    I blame the kit.


    We scored twice at OT.
    No injuries ahead of the run-in.
    Welbeck played well.

    Errrmm ,,,

  189. Rasp says:

    Cockie, I too hold the manager as the person ‘most responsible’ for our lack lustre performances for the last couple of months. It is the style of play, his inability to blend the available players into a cohesive team, and his failure to get the players motivated to run through brick walls.

  190. chas says:

    Aye, agree with the brick wall bit.

  191. Jeremy says:

    Hi Eddie. The refs name is Pawson.

  192. Eddie says:

    Pawson, good ref, cheers J

  193. Big Raddy says:

    I don’t. I have never seen anyone run through a brick wall and if I am honest it would probably be an unedifying sight.

    Is this what they call gallows humour or just a pathetic attempt to deflect from a horrible afternoon?

    Even the FLCF is crap.

  194. kelsey says:

    Some of Arsenal’s recent Premier League title challenges have been damaged by their players being approached by other clubs, manager Arsene Wenger says.

    and he said that BEFORE TODAYS GAME

    I feel unrest in the camp amongst several senior players and regardless where we finish we have several players leaving who are out of contract and others need to be bought,but we haven’t got any money.

    This is a bad day for us, actually embarrassing.

    Nothing will change whilst AW is there and no one will push him out., so just enjoy the ride folks.I have decided there are far more important things in life.

  195. So ……….. we need a post for tomorrow and Tuesday, anyone fancy writing something?

  196. Eddie says:

    peaches – I think Rocky offered something 🙂

  197. kelsey says:

    I have just watched the highlights again and that ranks as one of our worst performances right through the team, this season. They should all give their wages to charity.

  198. chas says:

    Is that a resignation? 😆

  199. kelsey says:

    Afterwards, in his post-match press conference, he told the media, via The Telegraph: “We conceded and it was difficult. The only regret is we had so much of the ball but conceded three goals.

    “We dropped three important points today. We need to bounce back on Wednesday night.

    “It was a difficult game. The team put the effort in. We struggled to be dangerous because they defended well.

    Confirmed the man has gone senile.

  200. chas says:

    Ah, it seems unfortunately not. 😦

  201. kelsey says:

    Sorry don’t understand,chas.Do you mean Wenger.If you do the answer is no, not until the end of the season.

  202. Big Raddy says:

    I know that BR has been drinking but right now I wish Leicester had beaten us.

    It would be awful, simply awful if Tottenham win the title.

    I feel dirty even writing those two T words close to each other

  203. Big Raddy says:

    kelsey. What is senile about AW’s statement. I would agree with him – does that make me senile?

  204. chas says:

    Personal attacks are not welcome. Thanks.

  205. Can we have some heat maps chas? How about Theo’s …….. 17 touches in 63 minutes, really, he needs a good smack!!!!

  206. Le Coq Monster says:

    Chas………..so you have the ability to edit and bin !……………..it was in no way a personal attack, just a bit of humour, but it seems like Arsenals form over the last few months or lack of it, you have lost your sense of humour mate ! 😦

  207. chas says:

    He’s shit, peaches.
    Anyone would think he was fighting for his place in a title-winning team?

  208. Maybe he’ll retire chas, I can’t see anyone wanting to buy him unless he has an amazing Euro championship 😉

  209. chas says:

    So, our (mine and Ant’s) support of our team becomes an object of your humour?

    No wonder poor Terry thought he’d couldn’t be arsed anymore.

  210. kelsey says:

    Most probably,Raddy 😉

  211. kelsey says:

    AW likes nice boys ;)Give him another wages rise it might do the trick 😉

  212. Eddie says:

    chas is just taking the piss, very funny ha ha ha

    how about joining the rest of us and be miserable for a change

  213. Le Coq Monster says:

    If you would have taken time to digest my comment you would have realised that I was using two of Arsenal`s finest supporters ( yes , you and Ant ) to illustrate that West Ham and Spud billionaire owners are not only owners, but fanatical die hard supporters and when they have their new grounds with £££`s coming in at all angles they will spend it on their team, just like I presumed you and Ant would, whereas Kroenke not being a supporter would not !.
    Surprised at you not seeing it as a humourous writing endorsing your undoubted love of Arsenal !. Not your first dig, maybe I`ve got you all wrong and should change my name to Didit !.

  214. This is nothing to how we might be feeling next Sunday evening 😦

  215. Le Coq Monster says:

    As for poor Terry, he`s pissed off with the constant so called dooming, although this can be percieved as other peoples opinions . Nothing wrong with his sense of humour though !

  216. Eddie says:

    now that is proper gloom 🙂 Never mind we are on our knees tonight, it might get worse, far worse soon 🙂

  217. chas says:

    Ahh, that’s ok, Cockie.
    I love your ‘humour’ 🙂

  218. kelsey says:

    Do you dream of me, Chas 😉

  219. I apologise.

    Just think we’ll all feel much better next Sunday 🙂 🙂 🙂

  220. chas says:

    I’m not going to reply as I’d like to, for fear of offending. 🙂

  221. fatgingergooner says:

    Good old alcohol comes to the rescue again! 😄

    We were shit. Really shit. We decided that trying to replicate our feat of stealing the ball high up the field as we did at home was far more important than marking players and paid the price by emptying the midfield time after time. Poor. Walcott needs to get back to concentrating on being a RW or bugger off. A top 4 club striker he ain’t, and Sanchez needs to be dropped as he’s quickly becoming Arshavin but with a better work rate. He’s not scored in 20 of our last 23 PL games 💩.

    Funny thing is, we are still in the title race, regardless of what anyone on here says. We can afford to lose to Spurs and maybe even City and still win the league. In order to do that though we must win all our other games and start actually playing like a team that gives a shit. We are far from that at the moment.

    Glad we play in a few days.

  222. Big Raddy says:

    Really want Liverpool to win for Kolo.

    Probably the kiss of death

  223. Hello fgg, has your lovely wife delivered your new baby yet?

    Totally agree with you about Theo. I said earlier that I can’t understand why he’s still being given chances up front and hasn’t been told what a great winger he could be. It makes no sense

  224. Le Coq Monster says:

    I`d bite your hand off now for an FA Cup final win and mid table finish if it meant Spuds not winning the league !.

  225. Raddy – surely Kolo has won it with City?

  226. Eddie says:

    I thought we needed a striker 🙂 pool missed 3 pens ejeets

  227. Big Raddy says:

    Been that sort of a day 😦

  228. Big Raddy says:

    No Peaches. Nor with AFC.

  229. wally says:

    That was an utterly pathetic display. UTTERLY PATHETIC!!!!!!
    Almost reminiscent of 8-2. No one should get more than a 3 for their performance. Coquelin was crap and ramsey was crapper. If ransom didn’t have those little 1-2s he’d have a 55% pass completion. And having the ball taken off him time and again. Infuriating. Walcott was non-existent and Welback was running around like a chinese fire drill. There was no focus to the attack, the defending was shocking. Alexis is in lala land. There is nothing good to say whatsoever.
    And to lose to a crap team with a couple of under 18 players on the field. WTF!!!
    Three hours later and i’m still pissed.

  230. fatgingergooner says:

    Evening Peaches.

    We were lucky enough to have a beautiful, healthy baby boy on the 17th Feb who weighed 8lb. We called him Luke. Mum and baby are all good! Thanks for asking.

    Theo has had his chances at Arsenal and I’ve supported him a lot, but I think his knee injury may have affected him and it’s time to move on I’m afraid.

    I will still support the players and manager until the end of the season and I believe we can still win the league, but we need to find a higher gear or 2 asap to have a chance.

  231. RockyLives says:

    Congrats FGG

    Wally – are you serious? Are the Chinese really crap at fire drills? I’m going to sit near the exit next time I go for a Chinese meal.

  232. fatgingergooner says:

    You obviously haven’t drunk enough, Wally! 😂

    No point being pissed off. It’s done and we move on. Win our next 2 games and we are favourites for the title! 😂😂😂its s funny old game!

  233. RockyLives says:

    Funnily enough, I am 95% certain we will beat the Spuds next week.

  234. Le Coq Monster says:

    Congratulations FGG and great to hear that the wife and baby are fine !………….however, I`m concerned about you mate !……………you thinking that Arsenal can win the league whilst losing at Spuds and Mansour City obviously means you are still hooked up to some intravenus mind blowing drug drip !.

  235. Eddie says:

    aha, Rocky – I seem to remember to promised to write something for tomorrow?

  236. How lovely fgg, lots of love and congrats to you all 🙂

  237. fatgingergooner says:

    Le Coq,

    We will see at the end how many teams finish above 78 points.

  238. Big Raddy says:

    FGG. Congrats. Though I cannot recall any Arsenal players named Luke,

  239. LB says:

    Just when I thought that things couldn’t get worse I read up and find we have lost Terry and GIE.

    Funny enough, I expect us to win next week as well.

    Whoops, am I being too positive here? I hope some of the doomers are going to write the report. They can really wallow in the gloom tonight.

    I am off to watch a cycling race I recorded earlier.

  240. fatgingergooner says:

    It was nearly Theo! Thank god we avoided that one.

  241. Herb's Army says:

    Why are you always so prickly, LB?
    No-one wants to ‘doom’, as Arsenal fans, we just want the best.
    Don’t ask people who want Arsene Wenger sacked to write a report and make the mood on here even worse.
    They’ll only do what Arsene Wenger is doing, by keep repeating what’s going wrong, but it is as boring writing and reading about it as it is to watch. And why should they wear their heart on their sleeves just to be ignored or sarcastically ridiculed by someone like you, just because they have a different opinion?
    Why don’t you dedicate a Post telling us how crucial Arsene Wenger is to the club’s well-being, and how he is moving us forward in leaps and bounds.
    Someone on another blog put it quite succinctly.
    As supporters, we’re not entitled to trophies, but what we are entitled to is a club that does everything it can to be the best in every competition they enter into.
    Having an absent owner who applies absolutely no pressure on the club or manager to be better, or to achieve anything significant, is a very unhealthy set-up.
    Using the expression is very disingenuous in light of our club’s continuing plight, so perhaps you should approach this in a more grown-up manner, instead of name-calling to support your flawed cause.

  242. Herb's Army says:

    *Sorry, I meant to say using the expression ‘doomer’.

  243. fatgingergooner says:

    Why shouldn’t we hear from the ‘other side’ Herb? It was only yesterday you mentioned this was mainly a pro-Wenger site, so why is it so wrong of LB to request someone who has a different opinion to write a blog or 2? You’ve said yourself you want to thrash out the important stuff, so why not get us started?

    I often see terms like ‘In Wenger We Trust Brigade’ used on the site but not many seem to take offence at that, so why is ‘doomer’ any different?

    Are we not all Arsenal fans at the end of the day, anyway? If you want to discuss the real issues then write something down and let people pick the bones from it. Where’s the harm in that?

  244. Let’s not have any arguments guys, isn’t it bad enough that our team have forgotten how to play football with each other …….. it would be nice if we accepted that some think one thing and others think another and everyone has a right to voice their opinion.

  245. Herb's Army says:

    Because I’ve done that already FGG, and got pelters for it.
    And as Rasp has said, too much negativity drives people away.
    Besides, there are plenty of people who have made the case for Arsene Wenger to be sacked, no-one has (recently), made a fully blown case on why he should stay. At a time when we’re having our annual choke, those that support him the loudest should explain why.
    Because apart from the odd comment thrown in here and there, they’ve been very silent. If they believe that we have an exciting future with Arsene Wenger, I want them to paint a picture in words, that we can all believe and get behind.
    Congratulations on your new-born son.

  246. Herb's Army says:

    Hi Peaches.

    There’ll be none of that from me, I’m angry, but would never use a blog to verbally attack a fellow Arsenal supporter.

  247. Rasp says:

    Hi Herb, I said people who repeat the same mantra over and over again often end up killing debate. We know the views of most on here, why is it those who dwell on the negatives feel they must grind down those with a more optimistic mentality?

  248. Herb's Army says:

    Hi Rasp
    Perhaps it’s the general malaise of the club itself.
    Every season they provide a fleeting moment of excitement and belief, then it’s gone again, and we wait a few months to experience the same emotions all over again.
    I mean, losing to Barca in 2006 CL Final was painful, but the occasion was exciting.
    Arsenal haven’t done anything really exciting for years.

  249. Rasp says:

    You weren’t excited to win the FA Cup 2 years in a row?

  250. Herb's Army says:

    Or, is it that we’re buying into a false optimism where Arsenal under Arsene Wenger are concerned?

  251. Herb's Army says:

    Sorry Rasp, it was nice to win them, but the first masked our failed title challenge, and they’re not the big two.

  252. Rasp says:

    You’re doing it again Herb. We’ve recently lost two of the very best bloggers (who were positive in their support of Arsenal) and I can tell you that one or two others are feeling the same way. Where are you going to vent your broken record when this site is abandoned by those who don’t enjoy the repetitive nagging?

    When things were going well earlier in the season, you joined in with the fun on here. Many of us choose to take the rough with the smooth. None of us are happy with today’s performance, do you really think we want to have our noses rubbed in it for the rest of the evening?

  253. Jeremy says:

    I don’t think Arsene is perfect by any means and it’s impossible to argue that the team have played with much consistently this season but if the team beat Spurs and Leicester lose their next game we’ll be 2 points off top spot with 8 or 9 games to go so I don’t understand calling for Arsene’s head now.
    We’ve a decent team but we can’t compete with the financial muscle of United, City and Chelsea and yet we’re above all of them.
    It’s only the last 5 or so years the club has had any real money to spend and we’ve bought since bought players like Ozil, Sanchez and Cech.
    Since Arsene has had money to spend we’ve also won 2 fa cups and might win a third this year. We could actually still do the double this year and people want Arsene out now? Really? If we win the double should he still go? Because while that might be unlikely it’s possible. It’s more possible than it’s been for years.

  254. Herb's Army says:

    That wasn’t my intention at all.
    I reacted to LB, who seems to think some of us enjoy ‘dooming’,
    so I requested that he should write a positive glowing report on why Arsene Wenger is the manager to take us forward.
    The club are a mess football wise, but no doubt still making plenty to keep the Corporates happy.
    Supporting Arsenal has become a sanitised, joyless experience, and I wanted to be amongst an Arsenal community to find out why.
    I’m sorry I bothered.
    I don’t need to be asked twice, maybe if I disappear the positivity will return, alongside GiE, Redders and Terry.

  255. David Sharpe says:

    the reason i want kronke out is to force CHANGE usmanov would get rid of wenger and buy us success,i always wonder if the majority of you support arsene and not arsenal,if he went tommorrow we would survive,and with the right man maybe win the premier league,instead of being behind the mighty leicester,never won anything in thier history,or spurs who last won the title before most of your fathers were born,or maybe im wrong maybe 3rd/4th place is where we really are ???

  256. fatgingergooner says:

    David Sharpe,

    Financially 4th place is where we are, behind City, United and Chelsea.

  257. Rasp says:

    David, may I remind you that Manu, Chelsea and City are also all behind the mighty Leicester and that Stan Kroenke is the majority shareholder and no one can force him out.

  258. Is it that simple David? What would make Kroenke want to sell his stake in the club?

  259. Jeremy says:

    In a comparison of financial strength, we come about 4th after United, City and Chelsea so 4th is where we should generally speaking finish. Obviously better would be awesome.

  260. fatgingergooner says:

    I think everyone likes the idea of success, but I think we’ve gone a long way down the road of doing things the ‘right way’ that it would be a shame to see us go the same direction as Chelsea and City and just buy trophies. Surely the dream is to dominate doing things correctly whilst those around you cheat and fall short? Maybe Wenger is a bit old fashioned in this way, but it does resonate with a lot of fans.

    Having said that, maybe modern football is just about cheating, diving and having the most money. That’s the example set by FIFA, so why not join them!

  261. Rasp says:

    David has had the answer in quadruple 🙂

  262. Rasp says:

    Or should that be quadruplicate?

  263. David Sharpe says:

    i think i got it wrong,im old fashioned and actually care and love my club,millionaire players and managers dont care about real fans because the emirates will always be full with tourist fans,wenger,hill-wood and his cronies backed kronke against usmanov/dein why??????

  264. Rasp says:

    David, all the EPL teams have millionaire players and managers.

    Just for the record, David Dein originally tried to bring Kroenke into Arsenal but the rest of the Board didn’t like the way he went about it, he then sold his shares for £70m and got in cahoots with Usmanov.

  265. David Sharpe says:

    wrong hill wood got share holders like nina bracewell-smith to sell to kronke because usmanov would have truned us into chelsea,wenger would have gone ages ago and buying success is fine we started it in the 1930 so stop being hypocrites

  266. Rasp says:

    Nothing I said is incorrect so kindly don’t call us hypocrites. It is true the Lady BS chose to sell her shares to Kroenke because she believed it to be in the best interests of The Arsenal. I find the idea that Usmanov could be our saviour quite distasteful and furthermore there is nothing to substantiate the premise.

  267. Jeremy says:

    Maybe that would make a good pole.
    Who thinks we should just accept that football is all about money and cheating and we should just accept that. We need someone with lots of money to bankroll the club and how that money was acquired is irrelevant. They can be gangsters or warlords or porn Barron’s as long as they pump the money in to the team.
    Or who thinks it’s important that Arsenal continue to be self sufficient. We don’t want the club to be a millionaire’s play thing and it’s important that Arsenal succeeds under it’s own steam. Arsenal might not win as much but also won’t be living off Daddy’s money.

  268. Rasp says:

    That’s fair enough Jeremy, would you care to write a paragraph or two to present the poll?

  269. David Sharpe says:

    enjoy mediocrity,i wont visit here again the reason your hyprocrites is doing things the RIGHT WAY ,THE ARSENAL WAY ,was born from herbert chapman BUYING BEST PLAYERS

  270. Rasp says:

    Herbert Chapman didn’t have to compete with the equivalent of today’s billionaires, he was the flat track bully of the time. But if you choose to leave with an insult because your argument is exposed as flawed, then so be it.

  271. fatgingergooner says:

    Enjoy mediocrity!? Haha are we not supporting the same club, or have I missed something!?

  272. Jeremy says:

    Really just got the idea from what fatgingergooner said. Should we just accept footballs all about money now and should would people prefer Arsenal to be sold a millionaire, even if we morally disagree with how he/she got their money.
    The owner will never take money out of the team and the owner will consistently invest in the team year after year putting Arsenal in a position to go for the very best players.
    But the owner has a history of human rights violations or got their money of the misery of others.
    If you think it would be interesting feel free to change whatever you want.
    I just wonder have we got to the stage where we understand most owners are crooks and thieves anyway and that’s just football. Or do people appreciate that Arsenal try to stand for something good.
    Whatever you think is best.

  273. Jeremy says:

    Well he was lovely.

  274. Le Coq Monster says:

    It`s seems to be alright to moan about peoples so called dooming, but I dont moan about peoples possitivity and optimism !…….and who wonders or worries that maybe I feel offended by it and might leave the site !. hahaha
    Lets face it, we should have more right to moan about our current form than to be excited by it !
    The way I see it, we are playing with shit consistency so why not be pessimistic ?……had we shown some consistency by not dropping points at W Brom, Norwich, Soton(H&A) Stoke, Liverpool, Chavs Manshafter etc`, maybe some of us would be in a possitive mood !………..it`s like the old moan from the missus about leaving the toilet seat up !……not thinking that maybe I get pissed off when she leaves the toilet seat down !.
    So if I cant be offended by peoples deluded possitive optimism, why should they be offended by my realistic pessimistic views !.
    Who cares what peoples different opinion`s are if they are not being abusive !.
    Would I really be ashamed if we bought trophies like Chavs and Mansour City ?………do their supporters ?……………….like f##k they do and we are all the same !. My biggest piss off is not Wenger,, but Kroenke by a few thousand country miles !
    Just remember that I told you so, that in a few years time when our main rivals will be joined by the Spuds and W Ham and they are spending cash loads and we are not !……that you will realise it was Kroenkes fault all along !. The bigger picture is our future not this seasons Leicester anomaly !.
    It all looked good with FFP and probably Kroenke was the ideal owner to have for it, but now that`s sunk without a trace, he is the worse one .

    Doomers are normal people too !. 😀

  275. chas says:

    Hey, we won on the xG model. 🙂

  276. chas says:

    Being an Arsenal fan

  277. First Sampan says:

    I have been following The Arsenal for more than a couple of decades.

    In the past, there were very few occasions when we could watch football on tv in Singapore, and the internet was very slow.

    Like all my friends, we watch Liverpool when they dominate English football and in Europe and I was following Tottenham when Ardilles and Villa joined them after the World Cup.

    But when I first started watching football in earnest, I decided to follow The Arsenal.

    The Arsenal that I started with will always be in around 6th position in the First Division, and under Wenger, they have always remained in the top four.

    I had always enjoyed watching The Arsenal play (more so during the Invincibles period) whether we won, lose or draw.

    Yesterday match was enjoyable because of the unpredictability of how players will respond, and it showed that youth and exuberance sometimes can win over experience.

    Will I be disappointed when we remained in the top four? No.

    Just give me entertaining football anytime, win, lose or draw.

    The extra enjoyment I get from yesterday’s match was how LVG was so motivated against the mighty Arsenal that he was unable to quietly sit in his chair, but to get off his butt to remonstrate and demonstrate a remarkable ability in diving without being touched.

    Mike Dean hopefully will be able to take that lesson and see the true divers of the EPL especially when they play against The Arsenal.

    Those who think that money can buy trophies, please switch your allegiance to the Chavs and the Oilers (them having the players you idolised) and let true Gooners enjoy their brand of football.

  278. mickydidit89 says:

    I can only see positives from yesterdays pathetic display 🙂

  279. kelsey says:

    Me too Micky, surely it can’t get worse 😉

  280. Red Arnie says:

    Motning all. OK, having slept over it, I think my sabbatical decision was premature.

    Yes, dooming is a natural response for a Gooner and positivity is a rare quality. Hence the perpetually positive Gooners on AA should be celebrated. Even nurtured like a protected species.

    Losing two of them in a day is a big blow. But proceeding on sabbatical does not help. We all need to take responsibility, individually and collectively, for the fact that we have lost a lot of top bloggers recently. It is also our responsibility to sustain the site and strengthen the hands of the fantastic people who keep this space going.

  281. Red Arnie says:

    nice comment, First Sampan. 🙂 But the Gooner trophy hunters are also Gooners. Gooners of a different feather no doubt, but Gooners nevertheless, not Oilers!

  282. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    Arnie. Delighted with your decision.

  283. Eddie says:

    I am still hurting 😦

    Fattie – congrats 🙂 great news!!!

  284. Big Raddy says:

    Eddie. I am hurting too. Ruined my evening and probably today.

    Not even a sliding cat to relieve my frustrations

  285. Big Raddy says:

    Shard. I am going to take your comment for today’s post (unless someone has written one already)

    If you do not respond I will assume you have no objection

  286. Big Raddy says:

    No. Didn’t help but thanks anyway.

  287. Eddie says:

    no Raddy, no cat can cheer me up either. Bloody awful feeling.
    I did say a couple of months ago, when we were true titel contenders that last summer is going to cost us dearly. I wish I was wrong.

    3rd place below the neighbours seems like a real prospect. Bloody awful

  288. Red Arnie says:

    Congrats FGG and Mrs, 🙂

  289. Shard says:

    I didn’t think I was writing a post, but ok.

    Where and how did we lose Terry? I will say I think the manner of losing GIE was unfortunate and unfair. There. I said it.

    I hope GIE comes back. I enjoy his comments and find them informative too.

  290. Shard says:

    congrats FGG!

  291. TotalArsenal says:

    On days like these the wise, late Dandan is truly missed on this blog. The exception to the rule that the older people get the more scared and negative they become.

    The boys let us down but it’s not too late to turn it round. Got to win the next two, simple as that. It is a 38 game competition so let us keep supporting till the sweet or bitter end. Up the Arse!

  292. Morning

    Arnie – very glad you decided to stick with us.

    I just don’t understand what’s gone wrong and why but agree with TA that we can still turn it round and hope we do, so starting with Wednesday.

  293. Red Arnie says:

    Thanks, Total. As positive as it gets. RIP Dandan.

  294. Red Arnie says:

    Thanks, Peaches and Raddy. Up the Arse.

  295. Big Raddy says:

    TA. As I slide my way into geriatric-hood, I find myself and my generation becoming even sillier. Long may it continue.

    Agree about DD

  296. Rasp says:

    Morning all, thanks to all those who ‘get it’.

    We have 2 choices:

    1. Tear ourselves apart, drag everyone else down and wallow in self righteous indignation


    2. Pick ourselves up, support one another and the team, and live in hope rather than despair.

    Football is just a silly game and this is just a silly blog, Let’s readjust our expectations and thank our lucky stars – as I’m sure DanDan would have done in these circumstances.

  297. TotalArsenal says:

    Peaches, It is indeed hard to understand and very frustrating, and it was all encapsulated in Mesut’s face and action at the end of the game. As Churchill once said: “If you are going through hell, keep going”.

    Raddy, that is reflected in your fair but upbeat previews and comments. It must be your Danish life style! 😜
    Catch you later. ⚽️

  298. Big Raddy says:

    There is a New Post

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