Loopy Lovren to do a Kolo?

Liverpool at home is always an exciting prospect and the first home night game makes it even more so. Wish I was going 😦

Plus this is a big test against a team who have spent almost €200m in two seasons! Selling your best players doesn’t help but Rodgers has to prove his success of two seasons ago was not purely a result of having a brilliant striker in the form of his life.

AW has been there; selling your best players inevitably has an effect, fortunately the past two seasons has seen us keep our players and add to the quality of the squad – who knows who will be arriving at AFC over the next 7 days!

So …. Liverpool. Never liked them. Hate the awful dirge of YNWA. I think I would even go so far as to say it is worse than Yellow Submarine! Just think of the dorks who have worn their shirt…. Keegan, Owen, P.Thompson, Dalgleish, One Minute, Emlyn Hughes, Suarez – the list is endless … but they are a very good team when in full flow, always have been.

The question is, has Rodgers put together a winning team? The lack of a quality finisher (in the absence of Sturridge) hurt L’pool last season and the signing of the excellent Benteke gives them considerable attacking strength. Add in the wily Firmino and the excellent Coutinho and we can see why L’pool are confident of an improvement on last season’s disappointments.

We smacked them last season when Kolo repaid AW for bringing him to Highbury – I doubt dirty Skrtel or Loopy Lovren will do the same.


As to us, we have to improve. WHU – terrible, CP good for 45 mins, tonight – who knows? And that is what concerns me; we have the potential to be brilliant and very successful because this is the best squad for a very long time but as yet we continue to be unpredictable. Consistency is what wins titles and can you honestly say you are sure we will play well tonight?

Thankfully we have an almost fully-fit squad (apart from Abou Wilshire and Abou Rosicky). Mr Wenger “just” has to pick his best team. Not easy – my guess is that if we all put in our best 11 that there would be many different 11’s. Theo or Ox? Theo or OG? Ramsey on the flanks? Cazorla alongside Le Coq? Monreal or Gibbs? Czech or Ospina etc etc.

It is being suggested that pace will win this game for Arsenal thanks to L’pool’s static central defence – I agreee and would certainly start with Theo alongside OG in the middle. The problem with this is that it results in the Ox having to ride the pine. The Ox is one my favourite players and he needs to know he has the confidence of AW to be a central cog in this team – he is too good to be a bit-time player.

It should be a good game between two attack-minded teams with Arsenal edging it.

p.s. Hope Rodger’s master-signing Balotelli plays πŸ™‚

I am 52% confident


175 Responses to Loopy Lovren to do a Kolo?

  1. ‘morning all, only 52% BR? Oh ye of little faith.

    Liverpuddle have bought a good striker in Benteke, but he is only good in comparison to the other strikers at the club, now who are they I wonder?

    I suspect that Wenger will ignore the obvious and play Coquelin as the only defensive-midfielder, probably with Cazorla alongside him, until our Santi gets carried away and drifts up-field to leave Le coq in the lurch.

    I’d like to see Walcott given the nod over Giroud if only to confuse Scuttle who would cope with Ollie, but suffer against Theo’s pace.

    I’d also like to see The Ox given a start ahead of Ramsey, but that’s altogether too much to hope for.

    52%? Nah! 61%.

  2. stevepalmer1 says:

    Morning, Nice one BR,
    Yellow Submarine, Well that congers up memories, 1966, in Liverpool, waiting for a ferry to the Isle of Man to watch Mike Hailwood against Agostini, we drove down by Motorbike and sidecar, and had a terrible crossing, the smell of deisel and the constant riding the waves made us as sick as dogs, in those days they used to suck all your juice out of your tank, and we had to push the outfit off the ferry.

    Once we had a breakfast, we took the outfit to the track and made out we were Hailwood and drove a circuit of the track, a bullet sidecar, and i was hanging out on all the bends, Magic times, Hailwood won with his six cylinder Honda, i have never seen so many motor bikes in one place, long ride home but memories that last a lifetime.

    Never liked Liverpool, but i did like the Beatles and every time i hear that record reminds me of that ferry crossing.

    Liverpool has been building a squad, and as you say have spent a few bob, so far this season our home form is crap, but tonight i hope to see that our building is better than theirs.

    Theirs is entertaining, where ours has taken a while to put together, but on the night we can beat anybody, I predict our second win, it will be tough, but were on the march 2.1 Arsenal

  3. Rasp says:

    Morning Raddy, thanks for another top PM, you make all the important points.

    Tonight’s result will be determined by which Arsenal turns up. I don’t think heavy rain will make too much difference as our boys have the technical ability to function when the ball is zipping off the pitch.

    The season is early and we need to improve – I just hope it doesn’t take as long as last season to find the right balance.

    The midfield is the key and specifically Ramsey. I’m not criticising Ramsey for this, only so many players can operate centrally. We need Ramsey’s engine but he is not effective when asked to play wide. It’s not easy, I can’t see an answer, let’s hope AW can.

  4. Well done Big R πŸ™‚

    We managed to contain Benteke in the FA Cup final and I don’t see it being any different tonight. OK, Liverpool are a different beast to Aston Villa and as you say, he has Coutinho and Firmino behind him for a supply line. Liverpool have strengthened in defence though, two clean sheets so far. This will be our problem tonight, because attack wise they are still weak. Break down their defence and we will get the win.

    I’m 82.7% confident πŸ™‚

  5. PV4 says:

    99.999999% certain that the Italian/Chelsea/Spud ‘Journo’ is as genuine as Maureen and that Benzema is as nailed on as the Lock Ness Monster! 70% about tonight – I too believe that Theo should play as he will be chomping at the bit to prove a point. Santi in his sweeper role should see us through 2-0.

  6. chas says:

    Cheers, Big Radford.

    I always quite liked Keegan – no idea why.
    Probably because of this photo.

  7. chas says:

    Absolutely detest Michael Owen.
    Hideously overrated in everything he does.
    If I had to torture any football supporter, it would be to force them to listen to Michael Owen co-commentating until they start tearing their ears off just so they don’t have to listen anymore.
    I’d give it about 30 minutes.

  8. chas says:

    As for Phil Thompson……..

  9. PV4 says:

    @Chas – agree 100%- Owen’s mono-toned drivel and his infuriating inability to pronounce most ‘A’s’ (panalty, deflaction etc) make me want to drop a pallet of bricks on his head – hopefully whilst he is talking to Robbie Savage!!!!!

  10. GoonerB says:

    Thanks big Danish. A rare opportunity to comment in the last few hectic days since my return from Greece to these sunny isles…oh hang on a second…

    I don’t dislike Liverpool per se and the fans I have met have been decent sorts, but I have to admit that the “ex Liverpool greats” that flood the pundit world have created a certain distaste for me towards the club, and some of Rogers, Gerrards and Henry’s (the arrogant American one, not the great French one) comments towards us last year have been a tad insulting.

    They all seem to sing from the same hymn sheet that they are some great form of football royalty and that the Arsenal, in comparison, are akin to something you find on the sole of your shoe. It is only in recent years that I have started to get what Fergie meant when he talked about knocking them off their f…….ing perch.

    Thinking more generally about us I, like many others, feel we need 1-2 more players to give ourselves a better chance of winning the title. Those being striker as first priority and possibly a DM as the second.

    Thinking more about us at present we could arguably have the squad and quality to win the EPL with what we have and should certainly have the squad to win tonight.

    What worries me more than not recruiting any new players is getting the balance of the team set up wrong. We have almost too many options to choose from in certain positions and I really like Rasp’s past description of us falling into the trap of playing our best available 11 players rather than playing our strongest 11 from the available players but with each player being in their best position…..if that makes sense.

    I think we saw this “get the best players out there regardless” early last season and then we seemed to revert to it against WHU. Last season seemed to improve once we had some injuries so some options were removed for AW. I felt then we started to play a team that had players operating in their optimal role.

    AW has apparently said that he has a difficult job in who to play and how to keep everyone happy. It worries me, this statement, and I am not sure he is ruthless or practical enough to put a highly technical player on the bench in favour of someone else to ensure the team is balanced.

    I personally think the more certain picks are Le Coq in holding midfield, Ozil at 10, and Sanchez and Ox on the flanks. This for me means there is a choice between Ramsey and Santi and between Walcott and Ollie. If Sanchez is not fit enough there is an argument for Walcott and Ox on either flank, but for me these wide areas need to be occupied bytwo from three of Theo Ox and Alexis, not Ozil, Ramsey or Cazorla.

  11. RA says:

    So, Enormously Randy has stopped malingering and deigned to extract the digit in order to produce a typically topical pre-match. πŸ™‚

    rasper has already said you have covered all the main points, so no surprise there.

    The Liverpoodle dirge is truly abysmal, and it makes me wonder why i cried my eyes out when my parents took me to a revival of Carousel in NY, and heard ‘You’ll never walk Alone’ when the ‘hero’ Bigelow (?) managed to accidentally kill himself. That and the choral reprise was really moving.

    In addition, I would never admit to enjoying ‘If I loved You’ from the same show — but I did. Sloppy? Sentimental? Yup — but I was only nine at the time! πŸ˜€

  12. RA says:

    I whole-heartedly agree with everything Chas and PV4 have said about Owen regarding his puerile commentaries and his monotone, nasal delivery.

    It is not his fault – he is what he is – it is the imbecile that saw fit to hire him in the first place that should be shot come Chas’ revolution. πŸ™‚

  13. Big Raddy says:

    chas 11.05 πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€

  14. Big Raddy says:

    RA. Completely agree. It is not Owen’s fault, he tries his best to be interesting but has no humour or passion and needs a vocal coach.

    Who hires these numpties? How on earth do Savage or Barton etc get air-time?

  15. chas says:

    Not strictly legit but accurate, nonetheless. πŸ™‚


  16. GoonerB says:

    Interestingly, this impression that persons such as Thompson give off about Liverpool being a bigger and better club than Arsenal can be put to bed by a mirror report today talking about each clubs worth. Ours is almost double Liverpool’s (don’t know how to put up the link, sorry).

    Add to that a report some 18 months ago looking at each clubs worldwide fan-base, and they had us on I believe 116 million to Liverpools 75 million. Not an insignificant difference so I am not sure why the likes of Thompson still feel they are sitting high looking down on Arsenal as an inferior club.

  17. But then again we had this fella for a few years… I hated his voice and accent:

  18. Rasp says:

    Agree with everything being said about Owen, I think he goes to sleep at the sound of his own voice ……. unfortunately I think that TH14’s attempts to be super-cool as a pundit are also bordering on boring …… he needs to do a few knee slides or something because he is in danger of becoming ‘not very interesting’ πŸ˜†

  19. The Cockie Monster says:

    Cheers Viking !

    Liverpool currently sit 5th on the list of teams I hate ……………………………………… (basically I hate all the other 91 league clubs and those further down the pyramid )…………..behind Mansour City 4th, Manshafter Std 3rd, Chavs 2nd and Spuds way out in front at Number One !.
    I think Thompson was banned from Liverpool for shaving off his moustache in that photo above !.

    In true Keegan style……I would love it if we beat them and sent the Scousers back on their long journey back home on the coach watching some porn they stole from Peter Storey`s lock up whilst singing ….” You`ll never wank alone β€œ.

    As per usual I will be behind the Sofa where I will be 100% sure of bricking it !.

  20. GoonerB says:

    Cockie πŸ™‚

  21. Rasp says:

    It looks like anyone intending to meet at the FFB this evening for a drink in the fresh air should make alternative plans as the rain is forecast to be continuous up until the early hours 😦 😦

  22. GoonerB says:

    Does anyone else think that Real are holding up the transfer market and that they are the catalysts to a flurry of activity? I also have a feeling that they, and Benzema, may be toying with us and stringing us on a bit.

    My feeling is that one of Bezema, Cavani, Aubemayeng, Lewandowski or possibly a Zlatan (for 2 years) would be good for us. Outside of them I wouldn’t just buy anyone for the sake of it and would then settle for what we have and look later if needs be.

  23. Rasp says:

    Hi GB, I heard that the sale of Benzema was dependent on your favourite player, Reus, moving to Real in his place (although not exactly the same kind of player)

  24. GoonerB says:

    True Rasp, although if I were to look at the current attacking wide players that I feel could possibly do a TH14 and move centrally and become a world class front man Reus would probably go onto that list with Aubemayeng.

  25. PV4 says:

    Heard the latest guff from @AlexisDun85 on Twatter – he actually believes that Benzema was at Colney yesterday and the Emirates! Drugs have REALLY got out of hand now!!

  26. Rasp says:

    I like Reus too GB, I wouldn’t be upset if we got him instead of Benzema …. but I don’t think that will happen.

  27. Sign this morning on the Pizza counter in Sainsbury’s, Brazen Gate Norwich. “Due to a supplier issue, we regret that we have no Tomato Sauce”. In the middle of a supermarket?

    You couldn’t make it up. πŸ˜€

  28. The Cockie Monster says:

    And I will give away my wife`s horses if he doesn`t sign !…………..saying that, you can have them if he does sign !………..all you need to do is pull up one dark night and rustle them !.


  29. Rasp says:

    Cockie, I think the guy tweeting all the stuff about Benzema and claiming to be an agent is an imposter!

  30. Shard says:

    Hello folks. Out and about in london now. Can those going to the pre mstch drinks please mail me the time and venue. My phone isnt ideal for checking the site. Thanks. Looking forward to it.

  31. The Cockie Monster says:

    Doesn`t matter Rasp !………..you can still come around and steal my wife`s horses !. πŸ˜€

  32. The Cockie Monster says:

    Anyone else think Jan Molby has let himself go a bit ?.

  33. chas says:

    I think the Vines brothers are going to stick with The Faltering Fullback.
    There is a small covered are outside and the back room, although not the most salubrious, is pretty big.

    As a side note, has anyone been to the Coronet on Holloway Road? It’s a old 1940’s cinema which has been converted by Wetherspoons.
    Might have to give that a try one time when JC isn’t in tow.

  34. chas says:

    are = area

  35. Big Raddy says:

    I have imbibed a few at the Coronet. Huge hall of a place. Loads of screens (well, there were when I went about 3 seasons ago)

    Decent atmosphere on gameday. At that time there were no away fans allowed in.

  36. GoonerB says:

    Sorry I can’t be with you guys tonight. Would have liked to meet the enigmatic Shard.

    Chas, the rain has stopped in sunny Hertfordshire for the moment so whether that bodes well for later some 12 miles south of here I don’t know.

    Cockie, I wouldn’t be putting up pictures like that with Mancini hovering around. It might encourage him to abandon going to the football for a quiet night in πŸ™‚

  37. GoonerB says:

    Raining again Chas

  38. The Cockie Monster says:

    Yeah GB !…….I can just imagine Stretch thinking ……” Well I would ! “.

  39. GunnerN5 says:

    I’ve only got one thing to say!!

    “It’s up for grabs now”!!

  40. GoonerB says:

    Not raining at the moment Chas

  41. Eddie says:

    52% is about right Raddy. If I was going to the game it would be 99% – we never lost to Pool in London or Merseyside when I had a ticket.

    i have to admit to loving YNWA, brings tears to my eyes every time and nobody can do it better than Scoucers.

    I would like to see Ox and Cazorla, Sanchez and Ozil, Gibbs, Nacho, Cech, BFG and Koz. Two more players…..I am struggling here, who is there to chose from? Ramsey, Walcott and Pants Down Ollie; not that much of a choice really. Ollie will probably come on last 15-20minutes, so Theo and Aaron must start.

    Should be a good game, hopefully a great result

  42. GoonerB says:

    only a bit where I am Eddie and not enough to trouble 2 tough boys like the Vines.

  43. Eddie says:

    Zelalem to Rangers, good deal. He will come back tough and rain proof.
    GB – why do you think the Vines are tough? Ok, Chas wrote ‘Arsenal’ in blood above his seat at the Ems, but I was told it was just a little prick not a real cut

  44. RA says:

    Well at least with Benzema confirming this afternoon that he is not going anywhere and will be staying at Real Madrid, the rumour circus can move on to the next ‘done deal’ and give us all a break.

  45. RA says:

    Presumably the next cab player off the rumour rank will be Cavani. I hope not – he is injury jinxed and has been out of form for a couple of years.

    Not for me!

  46. Red Arnie says:

    Lovely post, Raddy. πŸ™‚

    But a disastrous day for me, birthday as well. House move going all wrong, despite the lack of rain! 😦

    Massive toothache last night, called into A&E today, they tried to resusciate the errant tooth but failed. Big doses of anaesthetic failed to act sufficiently because of infection. Apparently. Back home with a dangling tooth. 😦

    Dodgy internet at home, stop gap arrangemt because of the move. 😦

    To top it all, wifey planned surprise birthday party for me at 7:30pm. You could not invent this! 😦

    Still, all to fight for. COYG. πŸ™‚

  47. Red Arnie says:

    Agree with everything said about Owen. πŸ™‚

    But the problem lies deeper. You see, Pool would not have been a bad team. Except that they have monopilised all the commentary slots on all major UK channels and radio. And the same drivel oozes out every time, filling the air with stench. 😦

    And they make it a point that all would-be commentators master such drivel to stand a chance of being selected as an expert. Including Henry! Just infuriating.

    Not to mention an absolutely detestable owner and a clown for a manager. πŸ™‚

  48. Red Arnie says:

    Still, a match to be won, so COYG. πŸ™‚

    Finally, Giro to score a brace tonite, and we will shave it 2-1. πŸ™‚

  49. Red Arnie says:

    Wish Shard and regulars have a good time. How I envy them! πŸ™‚

  50. The Cockie says:

    Happy Birthday Arnie !.

    A win for Arnie tonight, Arsene !……….to take the pain away, plus a new Β£50M striker rumour please….not including Cavani !

  51. The Cockie Monster says:


    Red Arnie`s breaking tooth !………………….well sort of, it`s dangling !.

  52. Eddie says:

    Happy Birthday Arnie!!!

    was the house your birthday present?

  53. GunnerN5 says:

    Happy birthday Arnie.

    Moving house is nearly always a nightmare.

    Lets hope the Gunners cheer you up.

    A single malt mouth rinse will –

    a) cheer you up
    b) deaden the pain.

  54. GoonerB says:

    Happy birthday Arnie. Sorry to hear it has not been so great but I get the feeling you are one of those calm chaps at one with himself so will handle it better than most. I would have probably self com-busted by now based on your day so far.

    Redders, I am whittling down your striker thoughts and likes and dislikes but you are still keeping your cards close to your chest. Having asked you the other day who you did fancy you conveniently ignored me and kept your poker face in place πŸ™‚

    You don’t fancy Benzema, Cavani, Walcott or Giroud…am I right so far? So you have now raised me one Cavani and I am now calling you. Show us your hand Mr Redders.

  55. Big Raddy says:

    Happy Birthday Arnie.

    At this very moment I am raising a glass of expensive (well, to me!) Valpolicella in your honour.

    Teeth are absolute bastards and very expensive when they decide to up roots

  56. GunnerN5 says:



    TEAM NEWS: Chambers and Gabriel start

    Arsène Wenger has made two changes to the side that beat Crystal Palace 2-1 at Selhurst Park.

    Calum Chambers comes in for Per Mertesacker, who misses the game through illness, while Gabriel replaces Laurent Koscielny, who is absent with a back injury.

    Elsewhere, Santi Cazorla captains the side while Olivier Giroud makes his 100th Premier league appearance as he continues to lead the line for Arsenal.

    Arsenal team to play Liverpool: Cech, Bellerin, Chambers, Gabriel, Monreal, Coquelin, Cazorla, Ramsey, Ozil, Alexis, Giroud.

    Arsenal subs: Ospina, Debuchy, Gibbs, Arteta, Flamini, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Walcott.
    Copyright 2015 The Arsenal Football Club plc. Permission to use quotations from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to http://www.arsenal.com as the source

    Read more at http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20150824/team-news-chambers-and-gabriel-start#3fOHWLDXcUFdVCJy.99

  57. GunnerN5 says:

    Oh boy that could cause us some real problems with Benteke up front for Liverpool.

  58. GunnerN5 says:

    I’ve gone from very confident to very nervous………………

  59. The Cockie Monster says:

    I was 100% certain of bricking it earlier, now I`m 200% bricking it and wish I had a bigger Sofa !.

  60. RA says:

    Interesting and worrying team, GN5. In addition that is a very defence oriented subs bench.

    Beware the Ides of March – in August!! πŸ™‚

  61. fatgingergooner says:

    Erm, we seem to be missing some centre backs.

  62. RA says:

    Happy Birthday, Arnie, you do not look a day older than 60. πŸ˜€

  63. The Cockie Monster says:

    I was very confident of being nervous before the game, now I`m very confident I don’t need any help of laxatives !.

  64. GunnerN5 says:

    They will come at us straight away to try and disturb our center backs – I visualize many, many long balls up to Benteke……

  65. The Cockie Monster says:

    Fcuk a Β£60M striker rumour !……………..I want a Β£60M central Defender rumour !.

  66. GunnerN5 says:

    Here comes the single malt I need to calm down

  67. fatgingergooner says:

    Maybe this is the game when Paul Easter shows us he’s first choice.

  68. The Cockie Monster says:

    What`s the chances of Benteke contracting Ebola before kick off ?

  69. Hold up… have I missed something, just seen the team sheet for tonight. Chambers and Gabriel in the middle of back 4 and no Kos or BFG on the bench

  70. GunnerN5 says:

    I just hope that Owen is not one of today’s “expert” analysts!!

  71. GunnerN5 says:

    None of us saw that coming NB.

  72. The Cockie Monster says:

    I`m phoning up the Border Control Hotline to say Benteke`s an illegal !.

  73. Eddie says:

    nb – have you been drinking again? No Koz or BFG can’t be true

  74. oh just read the comments…. my 82.7% confident just took a very large reduction. Pass the laxatives Cockie!

  75. Big Raddy says:

    Holy Jamolie! What an opportunity for our reserve CB’s

  76. GunnerN5 says:

    Eddie, look at the team news above and you will know why?

  77. The little Coq will take care of Benteke… Eddie, for once I can no, I haven’t been drinking…. but I’m starting right now. πŸ™‚

  78. Better put a plastic cover over the sofa…

  79. The Cockie Monster says:

    Listen Guys !………….West Ham beat us with a 16 year old CB !……..are CB`s really that important ?……….better off playing Theo and Ox as CB`s, some proper pace through the middle !.

  80. The Cockie Monster says:

    This has gone from a MWG to a MPTBG………Must Park The Bus Game !.

  81. Eddie says:

    it is true!!!!

    See Raddy, see! Some thought you were good at predicting team selection.but I always knew Wenger ready your PMs and got his ideas from you! Today you didn’t select the team and look what bollix he came up with, shocking

  82. The Cockie Monster says:

    This nervousness has me blabbering like an idiot !………so no change there then !…..I need to calm down, get my pulse slower and relax…………..time for some free internet porn !.

  83. GunnerN5 says:

    Christ It’s only 2:30 pm and I’m on the single malt already – but it does bring a certain calmness to the situation.

  84. What formation then… a 5-4-1 ?

  85. GN5… I could have offered you that wisdom years ago ha ha

  86. I’ve cracked open the home made pear ‘eau de Vie’ given to me when in the Loire last week. A little splash of Tomato juice to calm down the fire and what have I got… a bloody Marie πŸ™‚

  87. RA says:

    Hi GoonerB my loverly. πŸ™‚

    Regarding Forwards/strikers I did not intend to ignore your earlier request for info – did not see it – sorry.

    I am what the Romans would have called a plebeian as requires strikers, and everything else too, in that I have very common tastes and very malleable ones they are too.

    I feel I have been repeating this for years on AA, in that I actually like both Theo and Giro and there is a place for both in the current Arsenal team, but in Theo’s case he is (by his own admission an inexperienced CF (i.e. not a Premiership CF for a team like the gunners), and Giro is a big hearted decent player who has done very well at times, but I do not think he is a ‘top’ CF.

    My malleability is because if one or both scored a goal for us – especially tonight – I will yell my support as loud as anyone else, and acclaim them as stars – but………… Thierry Henry class? Nope – neither of them are at that standard. πŸ™‚

    I am not patient enough to be a scout – RC78 is the man for that – and neither do I have any preferred player in mind – sorry.

  88. RA says:

    requires = regards

  89. GunnerN5 says:

    Oh but I’ve known that for several decades NB – but I had to give my liver a break – I was getting worn out beating the damn thing in order to get some sleep!!!

  90. Big Raddy says:

    Excellent conversation between G. Neville and TH14 about the current AFC.

    I agree with neville – we need a strong physical presence in midfield

  91. Big Raddy says:

    NB. Tomato juice with a pear eau de vie???

    It should be called a Bloody Heathen

  92. GunnerN5 says:

    Right I’m off down to the basement to watch the game on the big screen – see you later – keep everything crossed.

  93. Big Raddy says:

    Important that Cech dominates his defence tonight. Two inexperienced CB’s and a baby RB require a settling presence, so I want to see a vocal and secure Cech

  94. Raddy…. made with pear but doesn’t taste of pear…. in fact it only tastes of alcohol πŸ™‚

  95. COYG’s…. big fecking test tonight.

  96. Eddie says:

    I love it when TH14 the commentator always refers to Arsenal as ‘we’ πŸ™‚ Neither Carragher nor gorgeous Gary Neville do that for Pool and Mancs respectively

    Lots of short arses in our team tonigh

  97. RA says:

    I agree with you Raddish — Gary Neville is really knowledgeable and interesting – altho his pointing out that Arsenal have an awful lot of skilful midgets in the squad and especially in midfield is not new.

    What is new – to my hearing – is that a respected pundit, and ex-player who won nearly everything, was expressing his bewilderment that AW has chosen to allow that to happen.

  98. What????? No Kos or mert!!!!!!!

  99. That wasn’t offside

  100. RA says:

    Some absolutely exquisite attacking football from the Gunners, but it is the lack of an end product that is going to hurt us.

  101. Big Raddy says:

    Def not offside. We get stiffed again

  102. Rasp says:

    Complete panic in our defence, this could be a long night. 😦

  103. Rasp says:

    Apparently our goal was miles onside!

  104. RA says:

    Not sure about miles onside Rasp, πŸ™‚ but it seemed clearly on-side after a beautiful build up.

    What happened to the ‘give any benefit of the doubt’ to the attacking side?

  105. Rasp says:

    We need some pace up front, theo or the ox

  106. Big Raddy says:

    Come on Chambers, Get a grip

  107. Rasp says:

    Suicidal defending, far too intricate in our defensive third

  108. RA says:

    Chambers hasn’t played for the best part of a year, I think, and he hasn’t played for the reserves either – so no surprise he looks all at sea. 😦

  109. Rasp says:

    That’s twice this season pool have had perfectly legitimate goals against them denied by the ref

  110. Rasp says:

    Thank god for Cech, our defending is ridiculous

  111. Big Raddy says:

    Great save from Cech


  112. Rasp says:

    I would suggest taking chambers off at half time, moving Monreal to CB and bringing on Gibbs

  113. RA says:

    Agreed, Rasper.

  114. RA says:

    We could easily be 4 down. 😦

  115. fatgingergooner says:

    2 worldy saves, a dodgy linesman and Coquelin all that’s between us and a hammering.

    We need Ramsey in the middle and pace out wide. Giroud so isolated.

    Shocking first half.

  116. Big Raddy says:

    Rasp. That is a verygoodl call. Chambers has had a terrible half – his confidence looks completely shot.

    Our passing has been awful. Our tempo non-existent. No-one is holding the ball and allowing others to get forward, it is just kick and run. OG is completely anonymous. Cazorla needs to protect Chambers.

    In defence we are a total shambles.

    But ……

    We should be one up and we go in level. Gabriel is growing into the game, Le Coq is having a stormer

  117. Feck… that was tough to watch. We did play some nice football at times but lack of end result letting us down. Cech have a blinder thank god. The Ramsey goal was onside… bad decision.

  118. fatgingergooner says:

    Chambers looks well out of his depth but our terrible performamce as a whole isn’t helping him.

  119. Great game of football just wish we were better

  120. RA says:

    Cazorla has given the ball away time after time just around the penalty area.

    So has Chambers, and also Bellerin too.

    Playing with fire doing so – utter stupidity to be so careless.

  121. Rasp says:

    Lack of leadership on the pitch again raddy. I’d take Chambers and Giroud off and bring on Gibbs and the Ox

  122. Rasp says:

    Come on Arsene, solve this riddle, do something daring, make changes at half time!

  123. Big Raddy says:

    My real problem with this team is the lack of a leader. Someone should have taken Cazorla or Ramsey aside and told them that Chambers had to have an easy outball, instead he has struggled to find a pass and his confidence has suffered accordingly.

    How is it that Coquelin is the only one who is getting stuck in?

    We have a team of artists and sometimes you need a mechanic. Gary Neville called it before kick off.

  124. Big Raddy says:

    RAsp. Snap πŸ™‚

  125. mickydidit89 says:

    Awful sounding evening but hello
    On mobile device and only following game thro comments here so please keep coming

  126. fatgingergooner says:

    Problem with taking Chambers off is where does that leave his confidence for the rest of the season?

    He’s had a terrible first half though! Tough one for Wenger.

  127. RA says:

    Entertaining and heart stopping football in equal parts – and you are right, Peaches – that makes for a great game – not nice to be so under the cosh tho’. πŸ™‚

  128. Rasp says:

    FFB, the team’s needs come before that of the individual

  129. Big Raddy says:

    Micky! This is tough watching – L’pool well on top and starting well in the 2nd half.

  130. Big Raddy says:

    Wonder if Shard is enjoying himself πŸ˜‰

  131. GoonerB says:

    Funny how often Rasp and I agree at half time about a lack of pace and it is funny how often in a season we play with a lack of pace and see a game like this. It looks like we are defending badly but really we are not getting the ball away and breaking to their end well enough when we break down an attack of theirs.

    They are not scared of the quick counter attack so can push up and compress our half when they have the ball at our end. That leaves less space to move it out (see Spurs away last season). A quick front 3 not only gives you a better chance if scoring on the break but also makes them alter their whole game plan.

    Groundhog day again.

  132. Big Raddy says:

    This game shows how important Koscielny is

  133. fatgingergooner says:

    We are finding space down the left which means we need a RW to make those inside runs. Theo on soon I think.

  134. Eddie says:

    micky – we are all over Pool, a mistery how we are not winning yet

  135. The Big Coq is a giant in defence… having a brilliant game

  136. It’s all us now…. must get a goal soon

  137. Big Raddy says:

    This is better. Fine save from Mignolet.

    Come on you Gunners!!!

  138. mickydidit89 says:

    Thanks Eddie
    Following on sky online live so getting five min updates

  139. Thats a risky substitution…. can understand it from an attacking point but leaving the defence a bit open now.

  140. Eddie says:

    fantastic second half, but nothing to show for it 😦

  141. Rasp says:

    Way way too late to make the subs as usual

  142. Brilliant brilliant game…. we should have nicked it in the 2nd half, let down by poor finishing especially be Giroud. Just highlighted our need for a first class striker (micki) πŸ™‚

  143. Big Raddy says:

    Very exciting game and what a turnaround between the two halves.

    Theo did nothing to suggest he should start but then neither did Giroud!

    Cech my MotM closely followed by Coquelin

  144. fatgingergooner says:

    Will take that seeing as we could’ve been 3 down at half time.

    Much better 2nd half and our defenders played much better.

    Summary after 3 games though is that we need a real world class centre forward if we want to win the league.

  145. Big Raddy says:

    Sanchez is still off the pace.

  146. FGG

    We could’ve been 3-0 down at half time but we weren’t and in fact, we should have been 1-0 up because Rambo got the ball into the net and it wasn’t offside.

  147. mickydidit89 says:

    Oh dear
    Played 3
    Scored 2 goals
    Maybe instead of buying an expensive player we could give someone important fifty million in exchange for twenty goals
    Join you all again soon

  148. Look on the bright side…. that’s the first clean sheet this season πŸ™‚

  149. Rasp says:

    Our passing options are so restricted with Giroud up front, he’s just not good enough against an organised defence. And why did we keep floating the ball into the box from corners and free kicks?

  150. GunnerN5 says:

    My observations..

    Chambers was not given the help he needed.
    Cazorla had an awful game.
    Giroud was unlucky
    Walcott came on and disappeared
    Ox came on and lit up the game
    Cech was incredible
    Coquelin was incredible

    We had a perfectly good goal disallowed

    A draw was a fair result……………..

  151. Rasp says:

    As I predicted, Ramsey didn’t seem to have a clear role to play and this contributed to Cazorla’s below average performance

  152. Big Raddy says:

    Rasp. I cannot agree. Ramsey had a decent game – not brilliant but solid. Cazorla on the other hand consistently ran into blind alleys and his passing was awry.

    Ramsey’s position was fluid as was the entire midfield. Only Coquelin played with positional discipline.

  153. Rasp says:

    There was an obvious imbalance. In the first half, all our attacks came down the left through Ozil and Sanchez and the when Theo and The Ox came on we were more dangerous down the right. No point at all in playing Ramsey on the right.
    The good news is that Cech proved his worth this evening.

  154. Rasp says:

    Hi Raddy, that wasn’t the way I saw it. Ramsey didn’t offer us any width on the right – as I said earlier, it’s not his fault

  155. Rasp says:

    I’m coming to the conclusion that we should either play Ramsey or Cazorla and then use Theo or The Ox on the right. Did anyone notice how much Ramsey improved when Theo and The Ox came on – all of a sudden he had pace and natural wide players to pass to

  156. fatgingergooner says:

    Funny how we had difficulty balancing the left side of our team for quite a while with Arshavin being pushed out there, then Cazorla, and at times Γ–zil. Now we have sorted, Wenger decides he doesn’t want the right wingers to play and sticks Ramsey out there!

    I’m not sure why he has to have ball players out wide. Why not just stick Ox out there and let him run at teams.

  157. Red Arnie says:

    Followed the game from comments on here, and Beebs Sport. Plus a couple of fag breaks to listen to Beebs Radio 5 Live in the car. πŸ™‚

    An acceptable stalemate is what I hear! We scored one legit goal disallowed, but defended bravely to deny Pool 5 sure goals. Onwards and upwards!

    As NorthBank puts it, our first clean sheet! A brave defensive performance? Probably not!

  158. Red Arnie says:

    Thanks, all, for the good wishes. Dinner was fecking painful. Returned home and rummaged through packing boxes to discover a bottle of single malt! πŸ™‚

    Hope Shard and Mrs enjoyed the game. Will it be a Shard Pre-Post-Report-Review Post? πŸ™‚

  159. LB says:

    The once great Liverpool Football Club, revered throughout the world, reduced to time wasting with still 30 minutes to go.

    Hang your heads in shame……………….

  160. LB says:

    The problem Wenger has with Ramsey is that he has to play him, he is too important to the club and no thoughts of leaving must be allowed to enter his head, the ones that appear in players minds when they on the bench.

    That being the case where else should he start?

    This is a cylindrical argument — there isn’t one.

    It is not just a case that everything comes down the left because Ramsey isn’t that good on the wing, it comes down the left because Sanchez and Ozil are so good.

  161. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    LB. Good points. The same could be said for Cazorla and Ox.

    It was a very exciting 0-0. I said last night that I thought Chambers was not fully supported by his midfield which led to him having an awful first half; thankfully he was much improved later in the game.

    But what changed at half-time? Without being at the ground it was difficult to assess. Did we change formation? Were the MF’s closer to the back 4?

    Any ideas?

  162. Rasp says:

    I cannot agree that the team revolves around an undroppable Ramsey. What if he got injured? The Ox could rightly be miffed that he was dropped. I think Jack may have been more effective in that game.

  163. RA says:

    Morning People, πŸ™‚

    I was going to say something about the game; then I saw GN5’s 10:14 summary, and there was no need to say anymore.

    Comprehensive and accurate.

    GN5 said:

    My observations..

    Chambers was not given the help he needed.
    Cazorla had an awful game.
    Giroud was unlucky
    Walcott came on and disappeared
    Ox came on and lit up the game
    Cech was incredible
    Coquelin was incredible

    We had a perfectly good goal disallowed

    A draw was a fair result……………..

    Works for me. πŸ™‚

  164. Redders

    yea, GN5’s summary was good enough for me πŸ™‚ but I think we should have nicked the three points. I would only add that Ozil didn’t have a good game either.

  165. GΓΆΓΆner In Exile says:

    Morning all.

    Important stuff out of the way first, it was great to meet up with the regulars and also to meet Shard and his lady friend. Both joined in the AA merry making wholeheartedly.

    As for the game, I can’t really tell you much about it, I was sat right next to the Dippers (as in there was a walkway for stewards and then the dippers). But to be fair there was some good friendly banter across the divide. And being at pitch level just doesn’t give you the perspective to judge overall patterns of play, however it does allow you to see just how good the technique is at this level, you sense the pace of the ball and the quality of the touches far more than you can when sitting further back.

    They were supporting Mignolets time wasting, I asked them what had happened to the famous Liverpool when they are happy to be playing for a draw.

    Rodgers clearly came to frustrate and counter, and it nearly paid off apart from a couple of brilliant saves by Cech.

    The match saver for me was Gabriel with a brilliant tackle in the dying minutes to halt the Liverpool counter.

    From my view I wasn’t too concerned about their attacks at our goal in fact I was asking those to my right why they were oohing when the shit went out for a corner.

    Could have told you Theo would not work against Liverpool, as soon as we brought him on they dropped their line by ten/twenty yards, whereas when Giroud was on they played a much higher line, didn’t feel like we have Ollie much support.

    Have read negative comments about Ozil from Steve Claridge this morning but I thought he was ok, he always looks to create a different angle, he is too subtle for most pundits.

  166. Rasp says:

    Morning GiE, good to see you, Shard, Mrs Shard and the Vines crew yesterday.

    I don’t get this criticism of Ozil, I thought he had a good game.

    In addition to that brilliant tackle by Gabriel, Mignolet also pulled off a great save from a shot from The Ox in the last few minutes that looked to be going in the bottom corner.

  167. Rasp says:

    ….. New post ……

  168. RA says:

    Well done for the Post, GB.

    I had mixed emotions about the game as it unfolded and the preamble also made me want to laugh as Brenda came out with his technical explanation of how Pool would beat us by ‘dominating the space’ presumably by booking seats on the ill fated Virgin spaceship.
    What a plonker.

    The much awaited Monday night game against the Pool started off, for those of us watching on TV, in a blaze of colour with the wonderful green of the pitch highlighting the club colours of the players, and a discernible buzz of excited anticipation from both sets of fans.

    The Gooner part of that buzz soon turned to worried sounding gasps as it immediately became obvious that last season’s much heralded youngster Calum Chambers showed he had not played much football in yonks, and despite trying to play with an artificial insouciance and without confidence in front of a capacity crowd, we instead saw evidence of his lack of pace, as well as his poor touch, passing and positioning which immediately unsettled the rest of the team as Benteke gave him ‘a right good seeing too’. that is the right phrase, I hope? πŸ™‚

    His misplaced passing out of defence, instead of giving the ball a great hoof, almost gave Pool two chances of opening the score – except our new man Cech pulled off a couple of stunning world class saves.

    For spells the Arsenal attacking style clicked into top gear and some wonderfully intricate moves saw Rambo slot in a beautiful goal, but we could only groan as yet another poor offside decision favoured the Puddle and angered the Gunners when it was disallowed by a woeful Lino.

    Rambo has been criticised for playing on the right wing and hampering our pace in attack. So it must be my eye sight that is at fault because apart from seeing him score that wonderful disallowed goal with a darting run from the left, and helping out our dodgy defence, and then back up front making incisive passes to the forwards, on both left and right of the Pool defence (OK he does seem to wear heavy clogs at times and overhits the ball too often) the guy seemed to be everywhere.
    My advice to him would be to slow up, don’t try and cover every blade of grass, and concentrate on one area of the game – that way you won’t be blamed for some things you did not do, and will get credit for the things you do do.

    Anyway the disallowing of his goal seemed to switch off Arsenal’s impetus and allowed Pool to get back to bullying Chambers, who really needs to go out on loan to get some game time and toughen up.

    I will stop there – other than to say, it pees me off that all the pundits are saying LiverPiddle were so great and Arsenal were so poor, because the only team to score a valid/disallowed goal was Arsenal, and for all the chances they had in the first half, they did not score – did they? And they did not win the game – did they?

    Obviously Pool are serial chokers, and Brenda can stick his ‘joke’ about Rambo’s shirt sleeve being offside, up his jaxi πŸ™‚

  169. RA or Rasp ……….. there’s a comment on the old post that should be on here ……… sorry, I can’t move it.

  170. Excuse, that I interfere, there is an offer to go on other way.

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