Old habits die hard

How long does it take for the dust to settle on a loss that included even the Boss saying that no-one had been convincing?

I was there and sadly my team looked unable to mount a convincing attack. This comment from GoonerB eloquently suggests that the tactics of the team selection were to blame.

Raddy your earlier comment about lobbing balls into the box. I feel the presence of Giroud invites us to attack in this way. It seems the support cast all want to play a different way but at the last minute dont see the opportunity so resort to this more basic final ball. I dont think a big less mobile forward really suits us, whoever it is, and the natural way we want to attack breaks down on this.

Micky, your question answers the other main problem for me. Ozil just starting to look the deal at number 10 so lets put him on the left mostly? Cazorla forming a good partnership with le coq so lets put ramsey there instead,who is not as good bringing the ball out from deep, and push cazorla into more Ozils role? Winning games with the quicker striker so lets change to the slower striker?

Aaaahhhh. With Ranieri back do we now have 2 tinker men in the epl? I dont care if its in room 101 but….square pegs in round holes….it is deja vu to early last season when we did the same thing and were looking disjointed.

Square pegs in round holes again!!!

I love AW but he’s going to have his work cut out for himself this week.

There were times yesterday when shots at goal were taken and there was a better option. I love it that we’re taking shots again instead of always trying to walk the ball into the back of the net but ………… can we expect to go back to 30 passes before someone shoots?

If only a couple of those chances had gone in in the first half it would have been a different story.

Maybe Benzema will come and AW can fine tune the balance and learn to use his squad instead of squeezing them all in 😉

Written by peaches


198 Responses to Old habits die hard

  1. Sorry, not really here but will be back later.

  2. Rasp says:

    Thanks Peaches,

    This my comment from the tail end of yesterday’s post ……

    I’m beginning to think along the lines of others this morning.

    Apart from the obvious need for a better CF, I do agree we played people out of their best positions and changed the team around which made the team unbalanced.

    The loss of Bellerin was a problem but surely we should be able to cope with that – everyone has been saying we’ve got strength in depth.

    The problem is in the desire to play the best players rather than the players that are best in a certain position.

    From what we have available, I’d like to see a front 3 of Alexis, Theo and The Ox …. but where does that leave Ozil?

    Coquelin and Cazorla at the back was a great partnership last season – why not stick with it?

    Ramsey is trying hard but once again seems unsure of his role in the team.

    Arsene can be very frustrating. He has basically blamed all the players collectively but seldom seems to look at himself. He is a fantastic manager, but surely he could have tried something to change things during the game.

    When we missed those chances early on (because we couldn’t get a shot on goal) you always felt there was a chance that Wham would score …. when that happened, once again our confidence seemed to be paper thin as we forgot how to pass, the movement stopped and we were unable again to unlock a solid defence.

  3. Eddie says:

    NG and FG – no booing, but for the first time EVER I left 10 minutes early. I just couldn’t watch it anymore, it was dreadful, no other words come to mind

  4. mickydidit89 says:

    Reading GoonerB’s comment, I have moved from Status “Oh well” to Status “Oh FFS”

    Everything is good with Santi and Francis, Mesut at No10, then some speed and thrust on either side.

    Didn’t know Arsene had mucked about 🙄

  5. PV4 says:

    Have to say that I am not surprised. Every time we are touted as the best/champions/this will be easy…we blow it! Remember Monaco? Don’t get me wrong, I am an avid AW supporter and believe he has worked miracles at Arsenal. But sometimes…he/the team are uncharacteristically frustrating!!!

    Cech plays 10 years for the chavs and then has his worst game ever! We were lacking cohesion, leadership and a cutting edge – all of the things that I know we have, but sadly we listened to the hype and blew it. Nevertheless, I think that we will bounce back and have a good season, but I would like to see Benzema or an equally greedy and assertive forward.

    I guess that all players are allowed one or two dodgy games, it’s just a shame the whole team chose yesterday.

  6. RC78 says:

    Yesterday’s game was more than dreadful, it was shameful…

    As I said, it highlighted our major weaknesses:

    – Inability to cope with set-pieces and with counter-attacks
    – Average full-backs that do not really manage to put any type of decent crosses in
    – Average ability to stop counter-attacks due to a lack of defensive commitment from some players
    – Slow build-up plays and ineffective possession due to a lack of ability to shoot from outside the box

    This match really showed us that we need to:

    – Invest in a CB that can deal with set-pieces and counter-attacks (again Ramos and Garay would be great);
    – Invest in a DM that can break-up plays
    – Field a team of warriors defensively and offensively
    – Start Theo ahead of Giroud (although I am a fan of OG)
    – Play either Ramsey or Cazorla as Ox showed that he is going to be our best box-to-box midfielder in the start of the season…
    – Start looking into replacements for Debuchy and Gibbs for next season or ideally this winter…

    My ultimate starting XI if we acquire a CB and a DM:
    Cech – Bellerin, GARAY, Kos, Monreal – Ox, BENDER, Cazorla – Ozil – Walcott, Sanchez

    My ultimate starting XI if no acquisition is made:
    Cech – Bellerin, BFG, Kos, Monreal – Ox, Coquelin, Cazorla – Ozil – Walcott, Sanchez

    I still do not believe that we need a ST/CF as I have faith in Walcott, Giroud, Wellbeck and Sanchez to score us enough goals to win games. However, I would be happy to see a FW/Winger join us – a player like Pedro or Reuss that can run past and behind opponents and create chances out of nothing…

    Anyways – poor showing yesterday…especially by Cech, Debuchy, BFG, Ramsey, Cazorla and Giroud…For the rest, they played fine (Kos, Monreal, Coquelin, Ozil) or really well (Ox).


  7. RC78 says:

    I think Ramsey and Wilshere need a kick in the butt like Ox got last year…Ramsey is infuriatingly good when he is committed but yesterday, he was dreadful…same with Cazorla…These guys really pissed me off…

    Again, I feel like our team needs players that have a great outside the box shot and better FBs because it allows to mix things up…Besides Ox, no one managed to go passed opponents…or to basically unsettle WHU’s defense with a pass or a run…shameful!

  8. mickydidit89 says:

    Here’s some excellent news for the lads to look at 🙂

    Venezuelan model Jeinny Lizarazo says Karim Benzema is heading to Arsenal


  9. wally says:

    Well, xmas wasn’t much fun. Our shiny new toy is left wanting.

    I won’t blame Cech. The first goal is on Monreal. He just stood there as kouyate waltzed buy him. He looked like he thought he was responsible for holding the line. Monreal was two steps away from coyote when he nods it in. Cech was helpless. The 2nd was on ox, much too heavy a touch (and he wasn’t alone in that dept yesterday) zarate is first to the ball, ox goes the wrong way and has the entire net to shoot for.

    As others have observed, too much individuality out there. Even sanchez looked disinterested.

    We put in a lot of crosses yesterday, very un-Arsenal, and not enough targets in the box. Bilic coached them up and they were full value.

    Let’s hope it’s a good wake-up call.

  10. mickydidit89 says:

    “Shameful” ROLF

  11. mickydidit89 says:

    Personally, I’m off to join Twitter and make friends with Venezuelean beauty Jeinny. I’ll keep you posted about more hot Arsenal related stories

  12. stevepalmer1 says:

    Morning all, Nice one Peaches,
    Bit of a poor start to the season, Nothing new. I see some are talking about our attacking players, and rightly so, plenty of shots but no goals. West Ham were taken lightly our first big mistake, Premier league clubs are all useful we need to remember that fact. But to me the worse fault we had was from the one man who was going to save us 10 to 12 points a season Petr Cech in my opinion he has cost us 3 points in the first game.

    I am not putting the whole blame on him, but i feel that a keeper of his standing these two goals were keeper error. Wenger himself said we were not very good and in all honesty he is not far wrong.

    We showed no width and this is not the first time , we need to adapt from game to game The Hammers had us marked and we couldn’t see how to penetrate, I noticed The OX doing his bit in defence, but although he made a challenge he let his man off the hook who had an age to pick his spot, Cech again was wanting, but it was his first Premier game for us and i expect he was hoping to be a saviour

    Of course its still early doors so no need to panic, we have had a good Pre season and a loss just brings things in perspective, I doubt many selfies were taken after this result, but it will make then take notice and i wouldn’t want to be the next team on the sheet..

  13. RA says:

    I suspect the heat will have gone out of today’s discussions as picking over the carcass of a game like that is not too appetising.

    Cech has taken the brunt of the moans for letting in both goals, and I was never sure that he was necessarily what we needed as Ospina seemed fine to me last season.

    However, to be fair to Cech he was ably helped in the goal cockups by any number of other players.
    For instance, leaving Monreal to mark a lanky string bean like Ol’ Coyote when defending the freekick (and I did not think it was a freekick) belonged in NG’s ‘no-brainer’ basket of what not to do, and for some reason a normally superb defender like Kos was all at sea when the forehead connected with the ball for the goal, leaving all the defenders looking like fish gasping for air when tipped out on the dockside.

    The lead up to the second goal was almost comical with the football possession changing from our defence to the solo Wham attacker in a crazy zigzag, backwards and forwards like a pinball.

    Giro seemed unable to bring any threat into the game, [I dread saying this next bit in case anyone takes offence – again] but when Theo came on he simply disappeared without trace into the disfunctional attacking miasma that is our current set up.

    For Arsenal to push for inclusion in the top echelon of clubs clamouring to be champions of the Prem or the CL, we really do need to have a proven goal scoring CF and not a physical, hardworking, courageous player who thinks [wrongly] that he can flic and flac like Messi, or a diminutive wannabe CF without any pedigree in the position other than the ringing endorsement from some quarters, including a certain Mr Wenger, that he has potential.

    What happened yesterday is likely to happen again all too soon, unless the team remember to start at the back and defend resolutely, before moving forward as a unit into our favoured attacking mode.

    It’s a good team, not an outstanding one, and they need to get their heads out of their backsides and respect all the opposition teams and not rely on their reputation to outskill them to defeat.

  14. RC78 says:

    I think the team is left wanting on the defensive side of things…rather than on the offensively…

    Again, our FB are just adequate but they do not create enough chances and certainly do not score enough…
    One of our CBs is brave and has good awareness but he is not good enough to lead our defense or to take us to the next level…
    Our DM is promising but not a confirmed performer – if we had gotten Schnederlin, I can guarantee you that the second goal would not have happened…
    Our CMs are also left wanting defensively – yesterday’s work rate by Ramsey and Cazorla was just awful on both fronts…

    Getting Benzema will not solve these issues, it will just add depth…I really think that we need to tighten things up defensively as we have a potent workforce up front…If you want to improve upfront, get yourself a Pedro or a Reuss or a Willian…

    Now let us see what AW does but al hoping for 2 quality additions, ideally we could get Javi Martinez from Bayern Munich as he can play both DM and CB and Reuss or Pedro….Then, we are ready to actually give a shot to the EPL title…Before that, we remain below in terms of quality and depth to Chelsea, City and Utd…

    Chelsea: Courtois – Ivanovic, Terry, Cahill, Azpi – Fabregas, Matic – Willian, Oscar, Hazard – Costa

    City: Hart – Zabaleta, Kompany, Mangala, Clichy – Toure, Fernandinho – Silva, Aguero, Sterling – Bony

    Utd: Romero – Darmian, Smalling, Rojo, Shaw – Carrick, Schnederlin, Herrera – Mata, Rooney, Depay

    Arsenal: Cech – Bellerin, BFG, Kos, Monreal – Ramsey, Coquelin, Cazorla – Ozil – Walcott, Sanchez

    Liverpool: Mignolet – Clyne, Skrtl, Lovren, Gomez – Milner, Henderson – Coutinho – Lallana, Benteke, Firmino

  15. GoonerB says:

    Just tuned back in to find the lovely peaches has made me the sacrificial lamb by using my comment. Feel free to rip into me as i am sitting 10 feet from the ionian sea with a cold Mythos, so no-one can upset me 🙂

    On one more tactical note, Micky has it dead right for me about having thrust either side. If he is playing Giroud it is even more important to have pace working off him both sides, not just one side.

  16. RA says:

    What a perve that GoonerB-bad is.

    Claims to be a lamb kebab while sitting on some cold local called Mythos, while goading the Mickey to thrust on both sides.

    How did I do, GB? 😀

  17. GoonerB says:

    Rc you may be right with your observation on the defensive side. However the romantic in me feels it is about our attack. Get that balance right and we should go 2-0 up in that game in the first half. From there we can be more disciplined and control the game with ramsey sitting a bit more to help le coq rather than playing as another number 10 in desperation of a goal because we are chasing a game we shouldn’t be.

    I dont feel Schneiderlin would have fared any better with ramsey going walkabout. Has anyone ever noticed that these losses are often when we have been dominating and not taking our chances or look disjointed in the final third? A world class striker would make us more fluent and more likely to take chances when we are in the ascendency. That is why i would disagree about needing a different DM to le coq or a new CB as i geel we lose our shape down to trying to force a game we should be winning and controlling not because of having the wrong defensive personnel.

  18. RA says:

    I pretty much agreed with all of your 12:07 RC78, until I tried to read the team players’ names and fell asleep. 🙂

    A 28 year old Benzema is not the answer – personally I would find room for Adelaide somewhere in the attack.

    Just an idle thought, but a little more youth is no bad thing. 🙂

  19. GoonerB says:

    Still smiling RA, still smiling. Much love from Greece 🙂

  20. GoonerB says:

    Bloody phone with typos. Hope it was legible. I am still smiling RA. Much love from Greece 🙂

  21. RA says:

    Both comments were fine GB, and I envy you the lovely holiday.

    Me? I have to go for a hospital appointment tomorrow — not quite as good as basking in the sun in Greece!! 😀

  22. RC78 says:

    GB – different philosohies 🙂 I am more of having a solid team that does not concede but that does not mean that it should not play attractive football – look at Barcelona, Bayern and even Juventus now…

    RA – I am gonna reduce the lenght of my posts…lol

  23. ha ha ha I went away for the weekend to get hammered and when I return, we got hammered. Couldnt even get my blog up on Sunday but have managed it today: http://wp.me/p4FeF9-rs

    That;s all from aggrieved from Avignon 😦

  24. IanRealGunner says:

    I know that many have said we were arrogant yesterday, but I think it was the more nuanced word ‘complacent’. WHU were stronger physically and seemed to win all the 50/50 balls and we played like a bunch of strangers with many passes misplaced. Then when WHU scored, the complacency was compounded with a confidence dip. It all seemed a bit surreal watching it, and a game where as soon as that first goal went in, you could see that we were likely to lose the game.

  25. The Cockie Monster says:

    Interesting probable stat !………………………Cech only lost one home game whilst Mourinho was in charge of Chavs………………………One home game under Wenger and one loss !……………..time to turn that appalling record around !.

  26. Red Arnie says:

    lovely stuff, and a great pleasure, and indeed a rarity. A Peaches post. 🙂 fantastic.

    You see, I am not so despondent. First proper game of the season, been there done that. Being down and out on GiE’s swing suits us well. Perpetual underdogs, we do well in this role.

    No knee jerk reaction required. Just everyone taking pride in their shirt and waking up to the situation that the business is right now.

    The good news is that it can only get better. COYG.

  27. Red Arnie says:

    I see what Micky is saying, but I dont agree. Conceding two goals is criminal. Yes, defence is the job of the whole team, but still the buck has to stop in the GK and the defence. 🙂

  28. mickydidit89 says:

    Of course you aren’t going to agree with me Arnie, you’ve got a beard for crying out loud.

    Tell you what’s bleeding criminal, and that’s not scoring even one goal. At home!!! How there heck do you expect to win any game if you can’t even do that

  29. The Cockie Monster says:

    What`s CotteeB doing in Greece ?……………………..Oh I see !……….he`s there sorting out the Greek economy with some Fiscal Fcuking ! Just wait until some big Greek fcuker gets hold of him……….he`ll be forever blowing bubbles !

    PS….there is a joke in there if you understand Cockney Rhyme and Slang !. hahaha

  30. mickydidit89 says:

    Sorry. Good luck in hospital tomorrow RA

  31. The Cockie Monster says:

    The “Buck” has to stop with $310m in the bank !…..that’s a lot of Bucks !………………and enough to buy one decent striker to score our criminal lack of goals against an Arsenal supporting 16 year old CB !.

  32. The Cockie Monster says:

    Is Redders going into Hospital to do a VAT inspection on the lump on Transplants cock ?……………….funny lot accountants !.

  33. The Cockie Monster says:

    Doctor Stranglecock : “Do you want the good news or the bad news first Mr Transplant ? ”

    Transplant : ” Good News first Dr Stranglecock ”

    Dr S : ” Due to your Ex-Wife ….Mrs Transplant being in the hospital at the same time, we have had a mix up and accidently removed your Penis and transplanted it on too her and transplanted her Labia onto you, but the operation was a success !.”

    Transplant : ” That’s the good news you bastard !…..what the fcuk is the bad news then ? “.

    Dr S : ” We forgot to remove your testicles ! “

  34. GunnerN5 says:

    Not a pretty picture Cockie!

  35. Redders, I’m sure we will all be hoping that you get good news tomorrow.

    Though I must point out that despite medical science making great leaps and bounds it is not yet possible to implant a love of Theo our thirty goal a season striker. 😀

  36. Eddie says:

    30 goal a season me arse! Couldn’t score once yesterday, that little flop

  37. Eddie, so you prefer that useless great lump Giroud?

    The same Giroud who cocked up at least five good scoring chances?

    There’s a nice cashmere scarf waiting to be eaten. 😀

  38. Vintage Gooner says:

    I feel the goals conceded yesterday could do with some analysis to make sure blame doesn’t simply fall on Petr Cech.
    For the first goal;-

    1 The Arsenal line up was at least five yards in front of the penalty box and this is a serious error because it leaves a large area in the penalty box for attackers to dominate.

    2 Four attackers were goal side of our defenders.This is fashionable because it is held that if they are offside then they have to get back onside as the kick is taken or take themselves out of play entirely. The late movement does however give opportunity for runners coming through. BUT in this instance serious carelessness by Coq was playing everyone of the four onside.

    3. Although Monreal was the closest player to the goalscorer he was wrong sided and so could only prevent the ball reaching him if it was low enough. Attacking a higher ball must come from a player moving forward and this could only been Kos in this instance but he was totally flat footed.

    4 Neither Terry nor Cahill would have failed to get a strong challenge in given the same circumstances and this is what Cech is used to.

    5 Cech charge was too late and thus ineffective but the first four points are all some mitigation for this.

    For the second goal;-

    1 Ox’s touch to bring the ball out was disgracefully heavy and when the attacker turned away from him he just jogged on
    without making any attempt to keep with the attacker in any way. This is a serious blemish on the Ox performance which was generally good but is not untypical of a cavalier attitude in important defensive areas which he must correct urgently.

    2 Santi who was level with the ball at this point did not take even a single step towards the attacker thus giving him all the time in the world to control and shoot.

    3 Cech still should have made sure he was evenly balanced because both sides of the goal were open to the eventual shot and his leaning left was for a goalkeeper of his standing a serious error. Shows we bought an outstanding goalkeeper not a God.

    Perhaps from the overall game the only comfort I can take is that it will stand as a stark warning against hubris and our reading and believing the press we are getting. Yes we have an excellent well balanced squad with depth in nearly all positions but winning is about every game being fought and won on its own merit and making sure we don’t gift silly points to others like we did yesterday.

  39. Big Raddy says:

    I’m still depressed.

    Need 3 points to improve my mood.

    I don’t give a monkey’s cuss about who offed up , what concerns me far more was the inability for the team to grab the game after we went one down.

    We were too slow in all areas of the pitch at a time when we should have been running hard, passing fast and shooting early.

  40. I wonder why didn’t Cech ask for a wall for the free kick?

  41. chas says:

  42. chas says:

  43. Chas – when you check in, the lovely little plants that you didn’t know the name of are probably Linaria maroccana.

  44. chas says:

  45. And there you are 🙂

  46. chas says:

    Ah, thanks very much, Peach.

  47. No wonder you get that message that says you’re posting comments too quickly!!!

  48. chas says:

    Thank you for the post, too.

    I love that you said that if one or two of the first half chances had gone in that things may have been different. Perspective is all for football. We were pretty shite yesterday but it really was a day when nothing went right and what could go wrong, did.

  49. chas says:

    Is Linaria part of the ‘pea’ family? 🙂

  50. Eddie says:

    no NG, I don’t prefer the lump. He has no chance of scoring 30+ goals in 1 season either

  51. RA says:

    Thanx for the kind sentiments.

    I did not mean to make a ‘thing’ about it but I would gladly swap my appointment tomorrow with that jammy bugger GB’s swanning around Greek beaches.

    The trouble with the internet is that you can Google every complaint and convince yourself that you are doomed. Hope not – but not looking forward to the initial tests, and now NG has told me that I will never love Theo that news has surely been the nadir of my hopes! 😀

    Actually, NG, I hope the ‘old guard’ don’t read this last bit as they have heard it all a number of times over the last 5 years or so, but I actually like Theo as a man, and no one had higher hopes for him reaching his potential than me, ever since I saw him as a S/Hampton youth player marmalizing the Arsenal boys, and being thrilled whensubsequently signing for us.

    Hope springs eternal that Theo can still come good, but as the years drag by those hopes are growing dimmer, (to me) but no one will cheer louder than me if he succeeds.

    Now, remind me how well your other great hope Sanogo is getting on, especially after I told you I had watched him playing in Ligue 1, and Ligue 2, and U21s and reported that he was slow, cumbersome and not good enough for Arsenal? Still keen? 🙂

    Round 2? 🙂

  52. Big Raddy says:

    RA. Good luck for tomorrow

  53. RA says:

    I am a little surprised that it has gone unremarked that the first Wham goal might well have been disallowed for off-side if Le Coq. out wide right, had not played a number of Wham players ‘on-side’ instead of stepping up as he should have done.

    From where he was standing he had a clear look along the line and must have seen them, but he must have had one of those ‘doh!’ moments when the brain does not register what the eyes are seeing.

    Bugger — and the ‘after you Claude’ passing the ball back to the Wham player for the second goal was farcical.

    Oh, well.

  54. RA says:

    Appreciate that Raddy.

  55. GunnerN5 says:

    I hope all goes well for you tomorrow RA, don’t go checking out the nurses – they will only elevate your blood pressure.

  56. GunnerN5 says:

    So two of our potential heroes became zeros in one game… Coquelin and Cech.

  57. A member of the Antirrhineae tribe chas

    Good luck RA for your appointment tomorrow

  58. The Cockie Monster says:

    By my calculations we seem to be the most popular team across Africa ………………………and without buying any trophies !.


  59. The Cockie Monster says:

    There is no sign of Totnumb on them ratings !……………..not surprising really as there are refugees from Totnumb being detained at Dover for trying to flee to Africa !.

  60. VCC says:

    RA…Good luck with the appointment Mañana.

  61. Gööner In Exile says:

    Having re watched the first goal I don’t think the high line was particularly the problem. You have three choices of line there, sit back on the penalty spot, or 18 or 24-25 yards out.

    I would choose a similar line, for a number of reasons, these are my feelings of strength weakness of each line:

    1) penalty spot ….. Weaknesses – allows ball to be delivered into 6 yard with mass of bodies, ball was travelling a long way, anything could happen. Strengths – defenders can attack the ball with keeper

    2) 18 yard box …… weakness – ball can be played between 6 yard and penalty spot, everyone running towards goal, will be on top of keeper, more chance of fumble from contact with own players, strengths ….. none for me

    3) 24 yards out …. weakness can allow a ground ball in for runners, defenders have to be strong line and not break before ball kicked, strengths….clear split between keepers area of control and defenders, most a player can be expecting is to have a header from 12 yards out.

    I always chose option 3, bit importantly if ball wasn’t over hit I stayed on my line. I didn’t back many to beat me with a header from 12 yards out and if they did fair play to them, my defence wouldn’t dare drop early because they would have had a bollockin from me. Watch out line we are dropping before ball is kicked, this allows the ball to be delivered where it was and be dangerous, hold the line and they wouldn’t have got there. Secondly Cech comes steaming out to what I commonly refer to as no mans land, stay on his line and he catches it in his midriff, the only way I’m attacking that ball is if it was a very high ball, the trajectory was so flat Cech didn’t have a hope in bells chance of making his hands and arms count against a header.

    Arsene said after the game that he didn’t like the high line, I think that was purely to protect Cech from criticism, for the best part of last season we greatly improved our defence from set pieces and in my view that was in no small part down to a higher line.

  62. Red Arnie says:

    good luck, Redders.

    Edinburgh International Festival. busy times. 🙂

  63. Red Arnie says:

    Micky. 🙂

    I note with some pleasure that we are already off the bottom! Stll in relegation zone, though. 😦

  64. Red Arnie says:

    super bollix, GiE. 🙂

  65. mickydidit89 says:

    Looks like a pea weed to me 🙂

    I owe Raddy a fish. Back in November, I bet Mesut wouldn’t be an Arsenal player start of this season. A stiff new mackerel on ice, or a floppy old one left on the radiator for a day or two, then sent third class? Might need a vote 🙂

    (mind you, if we don’t get a more mobile bunch of players in front of him, he bloody well should push off)

    Can’t wait for next season to start 🙂

  66. Eddie says:

    I don’t like fish – they eat each other and own babies, swim in their own piss and smell. Having said that mackerel I caught in Ireland and fried on a camp fire was probably the nicest thing I have ever eaten. Send him a mackerel, maybe he will bother to write a whole prematch next time. I am not sure I enjoyed WHBob very much plus it was probably the reason we lost – bad luck Bob

  67. mickydidit89 says:

    You’re Polish and eat Carp ffs

    Morning Darlin’

  68. mickydidit89 says:


    I do think there is much mileage and fun to be had in blaming the defeat on Bob AND Big

  69. Eddie says:

    feck off, me is British and prefer cod and chips 🙂

    Who shall we blame it on? Me? I suppose we could, it is not the first time and go to the opening game of the season and leave in tears

  70. mickydidit89 says:



  71. Eddie says:

    we are about to sign Denis Cheryshev. Great. Never heard of him/her

    micky – stop singing, Jeremy Corbyn is gaining in popularity.

  72. chas says:

    I’d rather vote for Corbyn than the other three red Tory candidates.

  73. Eddie says:

    I would never vote for Labour full stop and with your views I strongly suggest that you concentrate on pea weeds darling

  74. mickydidit89 says:

    Corbyn 🙂

  75. mickydidit89 says:

    At a wedding on Saturday, and I was talking to a Brazilian fellow. He posed me a question: “name me a country in the world with less corrupt politicians than The UK?”

  76. Gööner In Exile says:

    I have to agree with Chas, John Smith was the last labour leader who actually felt like a left winger, I’m not saying I agree with the policies per se (not all of them anyway) but it would at least be a break from the bland middle of the road one size fits all types that are currently sitting in the House of Commons and fighting for the middle ground. And give a proper opposition rather than currently “we’d do the same thing but we’d do it slightly differently” opposition that we have seen for the last twenty years.

    Feels to me like the majority of men and women who sit in power would have been civil servants and law writers thirty years or so ago, but the MPs would have been more local, sitting for their community first before worrying about becoming leaders. But that’s probably just rose tinted spectacles on my part.

  77. mickydidit89 says:

    Yes, rose tinted

    By “proper opposition” you mean more politically diverse/distant from the middle ground Tories/Blairites.

    At the last election, 71% of the population describe themselves as middle class. There’s your answer to yer John Smiths in so far as getting elected/living in the real world

    Now do something useful, Exile, and stick up The Swinger. Perfect timing when things can only get better 🙂

  78. GoonerB says:

    Morning all. Just popped on to wish redders good luck. Also he should be cheered up today by the news that Sanogo scored a hat-trick for Ajax so his world class striker really is under our nose 🙂

    Benzema has been having a medical with us for 3 days now. How many does he need?

  79. Red Arnie says:

    motning all.

    agree with GiE @6:56. Give the electorate some choice. Fed up of middle of the road parties who cannot be distinguished from each other. 🙂

  80. mickydidit89 says:


    You may be an expert bollocktician, but we’re sick of your happy state while we’re wallowing in misery

  81. mickydidit89 says:

    Oh grow up Arnie 🙂

    Clearly, they do not want your kind of “choice”

  82. GoonerB says:

    Hang on, just checking if I care Micky………….nope 🙂

  83. mickydidit89 says:

    Can’t believe it took you as long as thirteen dots to come to that conclusion 🙂

  84. GoonerB says:

    Any less than that Micky and everyone would think I am a completely heartless B’stard. At least with 13 dots it shows a minute level of sympathy.

  85. mickydidit89 says:

    Right, that’s it. I’m starting my own Party. I’ll give you un-electable, and you know how my manifesto starts

    1. Scrap Income Tax for all
    2. Tax the crap out of plastic and luxury goods

    ie tax spending not earning

    See? 🙂

  86. mickydidit89 says:

    They deserve it. Bloody long ballers 🙂

  87. GoonerB says:

    Micky 🙂

    Must pop off for the day now. I have a long and stressful one ahead of me………ahem…..

    Will attempt to get back later just in time for the announcement of our signing of Messi and Suarez.

  88. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    Definitely agree with Didit’s tax manifesto. Plus an extra tax on all foods with a high percentage of fats or sugar.

    And ban cigarettes.

    Tax anyone with both a beard and tattoos

  89. Foods with high fat and sugar, tax on beards and tatoos, ban cigarettes…. feck, my life woulkd be over. That would include wine Raddy of course, high fat high sugar?

  90. mickydidit89 says:

    Oh dear Raddy
    You started so well, then the “ban cigarettes” revealed your rather unsavoury and right wing side 🙂

  91. Eddie says:

    Polish Immigrants Threaten Strike Action Over Negative Perceptions of Polish Immigrants. Too bloody right, just remember this when I stop blogging 🙂

    can someone reinvent Maggie Thatcher, please……….

  92. ‘morning all,

    A depressing morning, I can’t find any hint that we are about to sign a striker.

    C’mon Arsene get yer finger out!

    What do we want?

    A striker!

    When do want him?


    On Politics Bollix, Elect Jeremy Corbyn, he’ll insure the final meltdown of the Labour Party.

  93. Micky, can I join your new political party? Please.

    I have just one policy to add to your manifesto.

    All Old Age Pensioners with a spare room should be given an illegal immigrant to live with them to do shopping, cooking, cleaning, gardening, car washing, chauffeuring and odd jobs. In exchange for free accommodation, being taught English, like wot I talk, innit and how to speak and act like an English Gentleman, or Lady as the case may be.

    I commend the idea to the house.

  94. Red Arnie says:

    tax on spending? nice idea, wont work. 🙂

    meltdown? maybe, Norfolk. But that will mean meltdown of the political system in England as well. And Tory rule for the next 50 years.

    North of the border, revival of Old Labour seems to be the only way Labour can be revived. hmmm.

    I would have preferred Diane Abbott, though. I know, I know, still ….

  95. Red Arnie says:

    Sad, if what Norfolk says is true. The population wants choice in the supermarket, but no taste for variation in political philosophy. hmmm

    A bit similar to lack of taste for different kinds of strikers. 😛

  96. Red Arnie says:

    We are marking the 30th anniversary of the miners strikes. On that, you may see here: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/03/miners-strike-thatcher-real-enemy-within-extremism?CMP=share_btn_fb

  97. Arnie, 50 years of Tory rule = Stability. Just what the country needs.

    Who needs a Labour party that is literally in the pockets of the Trade Unions?

  98. Red Arnie says:

    We marked the occasion by re-watching Brassed Off.

  99. Anybody got a football post?

    Just to get us off Politics Bollix.

  100. Red Arnie says:

    Norfolk, there is a lot of stability in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Singapore etc. There was the same during dynastic rule in India. Was that desirable?

    Its the lack of democracy that matters.

  101. Red Arnie says:

    The only worthwhile footballsy news I can find:

  102. Red Arnie says:

    feck! comment in moderation. 😦

  103. Gööner In Exile says:

    That’ll teach you to talk about football Arnie 🙂

    Hmm we’ve never descended deep in to politics before, I know I was partly culpable, but I guess that shows the affect of not wanting to think about Arsenal but still wanting to talk to each other 😀

    So Sanogo can score goals….this is good news.


    WBA lifted us off the bottom of the table
    We have 37 games left to win the title
    We can’t play as bad as we did Sunday again

    I think we are all upset because like Arsene none of us can really understand where that performance came from, there was nothing in pre season to suggest we were capable of imploding like that.

    Weirdly I see our collective skill set as a major positive and Chelsea’s over reliance on individuals to deliver as a major negative, as it is for City, but perhaps the biggest problem is it only takes two cogs to have an off day and the wheels come off, whereas if say Toure is having a bad day at the office they have the chance of Silva or Sterling not. In order for us to have a good day at the office every player needs to deliver, due to the way we seem to play.

    The theory of a player grabbing the game by the scruff of the neck and pulling the team forward never seems an option for us, players may be stand out on the day but they wouldn’t have been able to without the help of their teammates.

    Or is that just more tactical bollix?

  104. mickydidit89 says:

    It is perfect Exile, because it translates precisely as “Arsene Sweetie, go out and buy a Worldy right now”

    Doesn’t it? 🙂

  105. Red Arnie says:

    GiE. The comment in moderation is a football-sy one. Even one about transfers. And Arsenal transfers. Or lack thereof. 😛

    I was hoping Gnabry would play yesterday. I wish he has a good season. 🙂

  106. Arnie, final word on Politics Bollix. Democracy is all important, sadly Trade Unions are opposing legislation that would require a majority of members to vote in favour of strike action, not just a majority of those who can be arsed to vote.

  107. chas says:

    It shows that the Conservatives won only 24.3 per cent of all registered voters to gain their majority. Around 15.7 million of these registered voters didn’t vote. 30.7 million did vote. And 11.3 million gave their votes to the Tories. Do the maths, and you arrive at that 24.3 per cent figure.

  108. If people eligible to vote can’t be bothered to do so, they can’t complain when they get a government they don’t like.

    Labour are in real danger of making themselves unelectable. People have memories. They can remember the mess Wilson and Callaghan left. They can remember the mess Blair and Brown left. Luckily people recognised, just in time, the danger of electing Milliband. Who in their right minds would want to elect a government run by a conglomeration of Corbyn, the Loony Left and the Trade Unions?

    This really is my last word on Politics Bollix….for now.

  109. chas says:

    Shouldn’t the same apply to union members then? Since you conveniently ignored the point. 🙂

  110. RC78 says:

    Lucas Silva touted to join Arsenal…promising player but not an established or confirmed DM…Why doesn’t Wenger try Martinez? Biglia? Bender? Sissoko? Carvalho? It is a real mystery to me…

  111. F*kc politics….. only politicians benefit.

  112. Can we get back to football and stop the avoidance of discussing a serious loss to the Hammers! Will we bounce back? or is this a downward trend until the second half of the season?

  113. Gööner In Exile says:

    RC78 how do you find the time to watch so much football? Or at least to watch all these players you mention? I haven’t got a clue who half of them are so would be none the wiser if we signed Lucas Silva or Biglia. I’ve heard the names of the others but couldn’t say I’ve noticed any of them in any games I’ve watched.

  114. RC78 says:

    NB…tried to with my posts but today seems to be politics today

  115. RC78

    You have tried mate… well done, but everyone is in ‘avoidance’ mode. I don’t care, I’m off to the Loire Valley on Thursday for the Fete de Vins in Bourguiel for the weekend 15 aout, lots of Vin Superieur and local products and food. I know how to avoid disappointment 🙂

  116. chas says:

    Party City All Invited. 🙂

  117. chas says:

    Cheers wordpress, pretend you haven’t posted the comment the first time, only to post it twice second time around.

  118. Red Arnie says:

    Away from politics, some lovely developments:

    Very nice and positive view, GiE. As good as it gets, under the circumstances. 🙂

    Nice thoughts on transfer, as ever, RC78. Like most other on here, I suppose, the names mean nothing to me. But I would like Venga to spend some money properly, rather than window-dressing by replacing one good GK with another good but ageing one. 🙂

    Nice questions, NorthBank. Any answers? 🙂

  119. “post it twice second time round” a bad day at the office Chas 🙂

  120. Red Arnie says:

    And here was our show for the early afternoon:

  121. “Nice questions, NorthBank. Any answers?”

    yes, drink wine, get bolloxd and forget!

  122. Red Arnie says:

    Saturday, it was this group:

  123. Red Arnie says:

    NorthBank. Brilliant. 🙂

  124. Red Arnie says:

    Chas. 🙂

  125. Love the Flamenco Arnie… brilliant. But then my ex mother-in-law is Spanish and from Seville, so I have to like it 🙂


    Cheers Peaches

    Big disappointment, big let down. Bit like the day Paul Daniels cancelled a magic show I had tickets to. Apparently his Bunny Rabbits didn’t fancy it.

    It was just one of those things. You cant win them all. We have all been there. You spot some really good looking bint half your age by the bar and move seductively closer. Checking you fag holder and cravat, you tell her how amorous you find the way she is sipping that lager, and would like to explore further possibilities via social intercourse

    Before you know it some burley lout is “That’s my f*ucking bird you old bastard”, and your left with a puffy eye and bent fag.

    Politics? Don’t care, as long as people leave me alone. Back in Crete I have covered myself by becoming a member of the Communist party and the extreme right wing group Golden Dawn.

    That way, if the commies ever come to power they wont take the money I have stashed under the floorboards, and neither will the Nazis be knocking on my door wearing nothing but white hoods and robes exposing there excitement.

    It really is a mugs game. Why cant people just leave me alone? The Commie guy keeps ringing asking if I can start an industrial dispute in my village. When i explain every one is a Goat farmer and works for themselves, his response is to ask if the Goats receive minimum wage?

    The Nazi guy is even worse. Last week he called me asking if I could go out and beat up an immigrant? I told the geezer there is no immigrants here, just poultry. The response? “Err, alright then. Any of those chickens dark looking?”

  127. Big Raddy says:

    Annie, that drumming vid is awesome. Totally awesome man.

    Reminds me a little of our drum workshop in the tepee only much better and louder.

    Great stuff

    The ladies in red ….. mwaagh

  128. Eddie says:

    please Dennis, let this be a true rumour:

    ‘Arsene Wenger moves for Edinson Cavani – not Karim Benzema’

  129. Don’t want Cavani either…. another good looking boy like FoulCow who can;t produce the goods. Sorry Eddie 😦

  130. Eddie says:

    why are you sorry nb? It is not bloody up to you, is it 🙂

  131. oops… don’t get narky Eddie, if the rumours are true we’ll find out soon enough 🙂

  132. Stoke are spending more than the Gunners at the moment ha ha

  133. Red Arnie says:

    Terry. 🙂 🙂 🙂

    I will keep on posting short clips of what we watch. At the very least, we can be away from politix. At the best, maybe I can encourage some of you all to drop by Edinburgh in the summer. If not this year, then next. Shard will be making a short visit in late August. Should be fun. 🙂

  134. Red Arnie says:

    NorthBank. We had a short holiday in Andalucia last month. We were so impressed with the Flamenco, we decided to go to this show. 🙂

    Raddy. The energy was just amazing. 🙂 🙂 🙂 Drums, Flute, Harp and amazing dance. 🙂

  135. I don’t care if it’s Cavani or Benzema, just don’t recall Sanogo from loan.

  136. Red Arnie says:

    This was Friday evening:

  137. Arnie… when I was still with my ex, we went to Seville with Carmen (my ex mother-in-law) and stayed with family. Every evening some family member (cousin/uncle/brother/friend/sister/mother/aunt…. got up, played guitar and danced. My hands were sore from trying to do the clappy bits ha ha

  138. Red Arnie says:

    NorthBank. 🙂 I have tried the clappy bits. Not easy at all. 🙂 Yes, I also enjoyed the practise that the performances are very inclusive. Basically anyone can get up and join in. Very very nice. 🙂 🙂 🙂

  139. Red Arnie says:

    IMO, Sanogo’s loan is good for his development. But he is part of our “family”, I dont have a problem with his recall. It is not an upgrade, but then I am not convinced Cavani or Benzema is either.

    Having said that, Cavani or Benzema would qualify as proper transfer business. Rather than window-dressing.

    Just an opinion. 🙂

  140. Big Raddy says:

    I have tried to play flamenco guitar but don’t have enough fingers

  141. I tried too, but I don’t have a guitar. 😀

  142. RA says:

    Well, that was a load of fun — not , and then trying to lift my spirits I read AA, and lo and behold the sodding politicians were out and about proselytising for all they are worth. Oy Vey! 😀

    But wait — worse was to hand – my mate Norflok betrayed one of his bestest players – no not Theo – but his erstwhile hero, Sanogo. “Just don’t recall Sanogo from loan” — have there ever been any crueller words spoken on AA by a doyen of the Norfolk aristocracy?

    Speaking of which, Cockle told me recently that he had to rescue Terry from two ancient Chelsea Pensioners who were smacking him in the face.

    “Oi, pack it in” quoth Cockie-Doodle-Doo jumping in to protect his friend. “Why are you clouting my mate, Terry?”
    —“We are smacking his ass for mooning and not being respectful”.
    “But that is not his ass – that is his face!” said the Cock.
    — “So, OK, we are smacking his kisser because it looks like a mooning ass” said the bigger one in his resplendent red uniform, and let that be a lesson to him.”

    That was pretty cruel. 😀

    Don’t ask!

  143. RA says:


    Who is Annie?
    — “Annie, that drumming vid is awesome.”

    Does she have a beard? 🙂

  144. Eddie says:

    RA – how id you get on in the hospital?

  145. I tried flamenco too, but the red dress didn’t suit me

  146. RA says:

    The jury is out, Evonne, but I would rather not talk about it — sorry, I did not mean to mention it. 😦

  147. Red Arnie says:

    Redders. 🙂 and good luck mate. 🙂 Raddy has been having fine red wine since breakfast, and his vision and the control of his fingers was a bit impaired. Me thinks.

    BTW, he also confessed: “don’t have enough fingers”. 😛

  148. Big Raddy says:

    Not sure who that Annie is.

    RA. Hope all went well today

  149. Big Raddy says:

    oops Just read RA’s 7.44.

    Stay schtum Raddy

  150. Eddie says:

    The fans want Eva: “Don’t worry about Benzema, we need to make a move for Eva Carneiro instead! “

  151. Now Eva would be a good deal… I’d give her a transfer to the Arse!!

  152. Redders, you are maligning me I’ve never been a fan of Sanogo. At least I don’t think I have. Or have I? :D.

    No definitely not.

  153. mickydidit89 says:

    Come on Arsene, sign people up, because to be honest, we here on AA are a bit bored of the season already

    Thing is, even if Benzema is tubby and looks like a bit of a dick, all new signings give us something to talk about

  154. mickydidit89 says:

    See here, he looks like a twat when he scores. Apologies for the sexist inclusion of picture of Venezulean Beauty Jeinny Lizarazo


  155. Eddie says:

    the club made an offer to Benzema. The git needs time to think about it

  156. mickydidit89 says:

    He’s French, Eddie 🙄

  157. Eddie says:

    oh poo, I forgot to watch Uefa Super Cup and it was some game 5:4. And who scored the second goal for Sevilla? Jose Antonio 🙂

  158. Eddie says:

    French? I thought he was Algerian or Moroccan, let me check

  159. Eddie says:

    oh ok, born in France, one of 9 children. At least his team work should be exemplary

    When is Ramadan next year? Apparently he observes it

    I am soooo unexcited about him

  160. mickydidit89 says:

    I’m sure his parents were but I’m equally sure poor little Karim grew up French

  161. mickydidit89 says:

    I get the feeling that people recognize he’d be an upgrade on Ollie, and he’d also fit the style of football better suited to Me and Mesut, BUT, he does come across as a twat

  162. ‘Morning all, Will Charlie Austin do? Or is £15 million too cheap?

  163. mickydidit89 says:

    Oh dear Eddie, I’ve just noticed something. There’s an absence of lefties. Generally speaking, they are rather sensitive and a little touchy if I’m being honest.

    Oh well, moving on 🙂

  164. mickydidit89 says:


    Way, way too cheap, but worse, he’s English.

    We want a South American

  165. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    The Leftist Rasta Hippy wishes you all a fine day.

    I very much doubt we will sign a striker but Bennie would be great

  166. OK, but does he have to be a leftie too? A lot South Americans are pretty far to the right, I don’t think we should worry about his politics so long as he can do a Theo and score thirty goals in a season. 😀

  167. BR, and a fine day to yourself.

  168. mickydidit89 says:

    Bloody hell, he’s here. Open the windows and clear the smoke

  169. Time for some breakfast, later.

  170. Big Raddy says:

    Working this morning (again). 😀

    As Cilla would say “Tarraa”

  171. GoonerB says:

    Morning all. A bit of Karma me thinks for bleating on about my hols as we have a hell of a storm at present.

  172. fatgingergooner says:

    It’s been a while but had an idea for a post so sent it to arsenalnuts.

  173. Gööner In Exile says:

    Charlie would be an interesting signing, I’m a bit gutted Stoke got Shaqiri as I’ve always liked watching him play, and still relatively young. They’ve got a bit of a steal there me thinks although I know in truth it would just be another competing for an already occupied and overstocked space.

    Did Kongdogbia move anywhere this summer, still think he could do us a bloody good job in tandem with CoqBloq or independently?

    I think we need to see the first XI play (that’s including Alexis obviously) before we make any rash judgements.

  174. mickydidit89 says:

    I’m on my last day of work before hols, so will milking it when you’re back GB 🙂

    I bet you’ll appreciate my words and terms to avoid when looking for a new goal machine

    Target Man
    Great back to Goal
    Hold up player
    Good in the air
    He may be slow, but…

    How am I doing? 🙂

  175. The Cockie Monster says:

    Who`s this left winger Jeremy Corbyn I keep reading about on here ?……………….how much is he going to cost and have we got a vid` on his tekkers ?.

    Agree there Exile…..Shaqiri is a steal for Stokalona !.

  176. Eddie says:

    Cockie – Corbyn is a guy whom sensible people like DidIt and I want to become next Labour party leader. With him leading the party the Reds have no chance of winning any election ever.

  177. RC78 says:


    A really good article about the need to get an upgrade on Coquelin, which is what I believe as well

  178. RC78 says:

    Basically, you can draw a post from this article?
    What is the best midfield option for Arsenal with the current squad?
    Where do we need an upgrate? The article gives a lot of interesting stats…

    Anyways – with current squad:

    Ox, Coquelin, Ramsey

    Upgrade needed at DM:
    Ox, Bender/Martinez/Carvalho/, Ramsey

  179. Morning all

    Found your post fgg, just sorting it ………. back in a bit

  180. chas says:

  181. mickydidit89 says:

    “never unsee” 🙂

  182. Can someone see if the new post published please cos my pic crashed 😦

  183. It’s there ……

    New Post everyone …….

    Need to change the banner though

  184. Yep it’s posted Peaches

  185. GoonerB says:

    Micky your terms of what to avoid with a new striker is fine by me. BTW, off anywhere nice?

    Interrsting article with interesting points RC but it hasn’t convinced me at this stage to change my mind. I am quite happy with a deeper 2 comprising a mobile slightly less techie player who performs his primary function as a screen and regainer of posession very well, paired with a more techie player who has an ability to bring the ball out well from deep to transist defence to attack. We have 3 excellent options with Santi, Jack and even Rosicky who are all better at this role than Ramsey IMO.

    I actually see Ramseys skill set being more suited higher up the pitch as a goal scoring number 10. In this sense he is more Ozil’s understudy for me. I don’t think it was right to bring him back in to this role as the article suggested. I think the article got it more correct in the dysfunctional attack despite the quality of individual players.

    That could be first solved by not playing key players like Santi and Ozil out of their best position as Wenger did in this game. Give the number 10 and the deeper controlling midfielder 2 quality and pacy wing forwards to aim to put in behind the defence and a quality mobile striker thst csn get onto and score off defence splitting passes while also linking well with the 2 wing forwards snd number 10.

    We should rarely have to chase games like this which makes us lose our shape and often concede again. Ramsey went with his natural instinct to get more into their box and left Coquelin exposed. Get the balance and quality ahead of Coquelin right and we should be going 2 up ourselves at half time then control the game without going gung ho and likely hit them with 2 quick further goals in the 2nd half.
    This id whst truly top teams do and i feel le coq is fine for us and we are only 1 top striker and a ban on AW’s tinkering from firing on all cylinders.

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