Theo & Ox to Star

We have a treat as our season opening Pre-Match-, Young Bob has written another post. I hope you enjoy his analysis of today’s opposition ……

Big Raddy and I sat in a bar/restaurant in the Malmo sunshine last Wednesday eagerly anticipating Mission Impossible II (Malmo needing to win by three clear goals vs Red Bull Salzburg) and our thoughts turned to the season opener back in blighty where the mighty hammers are due to arrive at the Emirates as cannon fodder for the 2015/16 Gooners.

Following my article last year when I described 10 memorable Arsenal vs West Ham clashes, Raddy posed the question as to what I might like to write about this time.  “How about a look at players who have played for both clubs” I replied.  We then sat and named at least 10 players who had worn the finest silks of North and East London clubs (can you?).  And interestingly we couldn’t think of a single player who moved from East to North!  Anyway on my return home I decided to do a little more research and found some other smart arse had already written said article.  See link below.

So, as an alternative, I thought it might be interesting to preview the game from the perspective of a die hard hammer.

The Hammers arrive at the Emirates with a new manager – ‘Honest Slaven Bilic’ (just ask Laurent Blanc) and the promise of a return to The West Ham way, something Big Fat Sam decided didn’t exist.  And the pre-season signs have been promising with build ups from the back and short passing through midfield.

At the back will be a debutant by the name of Angelo Agbonna, signed from Juventus for approx £6,000,000.  The jury is out as he’s looked a little ropey in pre-season, but an Italian defender can’t be all bad can they?  Joining Angelo at the back will be Arron Creswell (great going forward and average at the back) Joey O’Brien (just cack at everything he does) and one of James Collins, Winston Reid or James Tomkins with Reid being the pick of the three.

Our midfield is expected to feature two holding players in Mark Noble and Cheik Kayoute and three more forward thinking players in Mario Zarate, Matt Jarvis and Dimitri Payet.  Up front, ploughing a lonely furrow will be Diafra Sakho.

Noble will look like a decent player for 30 minutes or so, but for all his positive attributes, he’s incredibly one paced and chasing Arsenal’s quick moving passing game around the Emirates will end up with him looking like Hattie Jaques chasing Benny Hills Angels around a hospital car park.  Kayoute is an excellent player with leg’s longer than Jerry Hall’s.  I expect him to move on to better things within the year.

Moving on to the attacking prowess of the rip roaring hammers.

Jarvis used to be one of the best crossers of a football since Georgie Armstrong.  Now he just runs down blind alleys and the end product is non-existent.  Zarate could be anything, but most likely shit!  Signed by the porn brothers, discarded on-loan to QPR by BFS at the beginning of January, he was deemed unfit by Rangers, and nearly sent back to West Ham before the end of January.  Loves to pass, mostly to himself.  Payet however looks to be different gravy.  Top of the assists stats in France, he looks more like a Gooner than a Hammer, but if he sees enough of the ball, may just cause your lot a few problems.

And up front will be our outstanding success of last season.  Sakho could of course turn out to be a one season wonder, but I’ve got a feeling he’ll score another decent number of goals, ably assisted by Payet.

So, to my prediction.  Unfortunately I think Walcott and The Ox are likely to rip us a new one and I expect Arsenal to win by 3 clear goals.  However, in the spirit of last Wednesday when Malmo beat Red Bull 3-0 to progress to the next round of CL qualifying – you just never know!!

written by West Ham Bob

As to Big Raddy – well my initial focus this afternoon will be the team selection. Mr.Wenger has the “luxury”(?) of JW and Sanchez being unavailable, however when all are fit how will he arrange the team? Will we play with a front line of Walcott up top and Ozil, Sanchez and Ox zipping about behind him. Or will it be OG who is the fulcrum with Theo terrifying the opposition FB’s? Personally, I would pick The Ox as our right sided forward as I think he is about to develop into a true world-class player which will bring our complement up to 4 (Kos, Ozil, Sanchez or 7 if you include Santi, Cech and Aaron)

This is Cech first PL game as an Gooner, a fine signing and a top player. I wish him well.

Whomever lines up in the famous shirt will be expected to start the season in style and with 3 points. We need to win games like today and not give our rivals a head start as we did last season.

My hope and expectation that Bob is right ….. Theo and Ox will rip them a new one (but I expect OG to start)

BTW Can you think of any players who have moved from West Ham to Arsenal, we couldn’t!


141 Responses to Theo & Ox to Star

  1. chas says:

    Cheers, BR and West Ham Bob.

    If I’d been asked to name a possible Hammers XI I would have struggled to name more than 4. But that probably says more about my ignorance than anything else.

    Up The Arse.

  2. chas says:

    Would like to see the Ox instead of Sanchez on the left Theo right and Mr Frenchie centre.

    This means Wenger will play Coq, Arteta, Rambo, Cazorla, Ozil and Giroud.

  3. ‘morning all,

    Aah! a Big Raddy Pre-match, now the season is really underway at last.

    Thank you Bob for your’e honest appraisal of the Hammers, I sincerely hope they have a better season than some of late, starting next week of course. 😀 This is a big season for your team, the last at The Boleyn Ground and it’s essential that they make the move to the Olympic Stadium as a Premiership side. I’ll not mention the amount of taxpayers dosh that has, and looks set to continue, pouring into the new venue. Oops! I already have. 😀

    I have to disagree with you BR, Giroud on the bench today, it will become his regular position as Theo heads towards thirty goals for the season. (Get ready to eat that cashmere scarf Eddie :D).






    I would like a 4 – 0 win for the Glorious Gunners, but will settle for 3 – 0 with Theo getting two.

    C’mon The Gunners.

  4. That’s my lot for today, off to sunny Southwold for a family get-together. Enjoy the game folks.

  5. Gööner In Exile says:

    Morning all, if we had been playing yesterday I would fully expect us to win, at a canter playing normal start of season fun stuff.

    After Chavs little slip I wonder if there will be a bit more caution?

    As for West Ham morale may be low after going out to some Maltese outfit in the Europa League but competitive matches will have served as a good pre season, thankfully we had last week against Chavs.

    The biggest thing I felt yesterday watching Chavs was disappointment that Alexis wasn’t playing last week, Ivanovic seems to have lost a yard of pace and Moreno took him to pieces, Alexis would have run riot!

  6. Gööner In Exile says:

    Thanks for the post Bob and Raddy, I’m still racking my brains to think of players we have taken from the happy Hammers, and so far nowt.

    There were a fair few I would have loved us to sign back in the day, Cottee and McAvennie to name two. And always had a soft spot for George Paris.

  7. Red Arnie says:

    lovely pre-match, Raddy. 🙂

    I agree with Norfolk, with a correction for the minor typo: Giro for Theo. 🙂

    Looking forward to the game. 🙂 COYG. 🙂

    oh dear, running horribly late. bake laterz. 🙂

  8. Rasp says:

    Thanks Bob ‘n Raddy.

    I’m uncomfortable with the way everyone is writing this game off as an easy win for The Arsenal.

    This is exactly the scenario that leads to complacency and mistakes. I know its not Arsene’s style, but I’d prefer it if he sent the boys out playing as if we were already one goal down.

    If we work hard, the victory should be comfortable, but if we think its going to be a stroll in the park we could come unstuck.

  9. RA says:

    A very nice Post, Bob, and certainly a cut above the pre-match guff we usually get!!!! 😀

    [Just kidding Giant Raddish!] 🙂

    I cannot think of any first team players moving from Wham to the Gunners, but a star of the future played for our U19s in the recent Final against PSV, namely Ben Sheaf who moved from Upton Park recently. Does that count? 🙂

  10. RA says:

    Interesting team — and bench! 🙂

  11. The pre-match is back 🙂

    Thanks Raddy, I’m on my way to the game, all the usual suspects in my pockets.

    I love the beginning of the season, so much hope and expectation. Looking forward to singing loud and proud.

    Enjoy the game everyone.

    if you’re watching kelsey, that means you too x

  12. GunnerN5 says:

    Subs: Ospina, Gibbs, Gabriel, Chambers, Arteta, Walcott, Alexis

    Full team: Cech, Debuchy, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal, Coquelin, Ramsey, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ozil, Cazorla, Giroud


  13. Gööner In Exile says:

    Dónde está Hector?

    Also Hammers starting a 16 year old….he must be good!!

    Other than that happy with the lineup

  14. RA says:

    Bellerin has a slight muscle glitz, Exile.

  15. Gööner In Exile says:

    Is Micky in amongst this lot?

  16. Gööner In Exile says:

    Just to reignite, Theo can’t do that. 😀

  17. Big Raddy says:

    First half not exactly going to plan 😧

  18. RA says:

    That is not a fluke half-time score. Wham are well worth their lead.

    We are full of physical effort and not letting the ball do the work. We need to relax and show the class that we have — or else!

    [Sorry, but altho the defence were poor facing the free kick from which they scored – Cech was…….. dreadful.] 😦

  19. Gööner In Exile says:

    Hate to say I told you so but:

    Gööner In Exile says:
    August 2, 2015 at 10:32 pm (Edit)
    Eddie I think that’s what’s known as “confirmation bias”. Did Cech do anything better today than any of our other keepers could have done?

    My answer is no, and he got away with a flap that had it been Szczesny would be used to say something like “doubts still remain”.

  20. Gööner In Exile says:

    Clever use of Bilic of the youngster put him on Ozil he will have legs to chase him all day, he doesn’t have to be particularly good at defending, he is a big unit and every time an Arsenal player looks for Ozil they see a West Ham shirt in close attendance and look elsewhere.

    As for us with managed to get enough of their players in the book that we should have acres to exploit. And we aren’t.

  21. Rasp says:

    Time for some subs, let’s not leave it too late. We need Alexis!

  22. Gööner In Exile says:

    Oh dear…..

  23. Rasp says:

    I don’t know about your predictive qualities GiE … but here is mine from today …..

    “I’m uncomfortable with the way everyone is writing this game off as an easy win for The Arsenal.

    This is exactly the scenario that leads to complacency and mistakes. I know its not Arsene’s style, but I’d prefer it if he sent the boys out playing as if we were already one goal down.

    If we work hard, the victory should be comfortable, but if we think its going to be a stroll in the park we could come unstuck.”

  24. GoonerB says:

    Greetings from the Greek islands all. Back to playing crafty attacking CM’s out wide it seems. Are we unbalanced with this?

    Which bit were you talking about GIE at 1.59?

    And oh shite just as i write we go 2-0 down. Walcott for Coquelin???????.

  25. Gööner In Exile says:

    GoonerB when the game was still fun to watch Ox went on a mazy past four or five and then delivered the ball to Santi at the back stick.

  26. GoonerB says:

    Yes i agree GIE. That was very good. Seems like a distant memory now.

  27. fatgingergooner says:

    hope Giroud is ok.

    cant see where a goal is coming from at the moment.

    dreadful performance but fair play to West Ham who have defended very well.

    we have been inaccurate with our passing and far too slow to react.

  28. Rasp says:

    61% possession?
    16 shots to 6 for wham?
    ….. can’t compute??

  29. Gööner In Exile says:

    This is appalling. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen us disintegrate into a bunch of individuals……I think Arsene might lose it with them in the dressing room and it would be well deserved.

  30. fatgingergooner says:

    you cant afford to concede first in this league because teams are organised and know how to defend and play on the break.

    we’ve fucked ourselves over and never looked like scoring.

  31. Can we pretend it’s a friendly and start again next week 🙂

  32. Gööner In Exile says:

    Rasp 3 shots on target each should help you get to the result.

    Our shooting has been forced, which is what I was hinting at by bunch of individuals a few set the tone by going for goal when they could have passed to better options and then everyone joins in the selfishness.

  33. GoonerB says:

    Definitely one of those games where nothing has quite gone for us. However my opinion has been that we would fail in a title push if we didn’t get a world class striker and if Arsene didn’t get our tactical set up and balance right. I think both were in evidence today.

  34. Rasp says:

    Thanks GiE, I saw that in the stats. What doesn’t compute is that our build up to the season looked good – so why can’t we get more than 1 in 5 shots on target?

  35. It’s ok guys West Ham are going to win the league

  36. Rasp says:

    Sounds to me like we’ve resurrected the old Arsenal complacency?

  37. Rasp says:

    We are bottom of the league 😦

  38. GiE is right, interestingly too many taking shots when there was a better option to pass to.

    One down 37 to go

  39. Big Raddy says:

    I have been searching for a word to sum up that performance and I think I have found it ….


  40. RockyLives says:

    Well that was pretty poor.

    (the game that is – not the Post, which was great).

  41. Red Arnie says:

    all right, then, first day of the season proper and DOOM can begin in all earnest! sad. 😦

    my tuppence. First we let the wrong Pole leave, and then we let the wrong Pole go. For what? Just to make the point that we are ready to splash some money. hmmm. 😦

  42. RockyLives says:

    I can’t do tactix bollix but if I could I would suggest that today our tactix were bollix.

    I can’t understand why we had so little control in midfield.

  43. RockyLives says:

    Still, it’s just one bad game. Hope it doesn’t put Benzema off coming 🙂

  44. GoonerB says:

    GIE personally i think the playing like individuals with no cohesion has a lot to do with the set up and tactics. That is down to the manager. The problems can’t always be due to the players and them then requiring a bollocking especially when we are loaded with top internationals. I think we saw this problem early last season when he tried to play Ozil, Ramsey and Cazorla together. It forces one of them to act as a wide player and none of them really are. It seemed that both Ozil and Cazorla were played out of their best position and maybe that is all it takes.

  45. fatgingergooner says:

    so Cech currently sits on -3 points!

    long way to go to earn those 10-15 points!!! 🙂

    just an awful performance made worse by the fact i have no idea where it came from.

  46. RA says:

    With due respect, Rasper, that ‘complacency’ excuse does not hold water and is a bit patronising.

    Wham were well worth the win, and complacency or not, we could have been out there for 180 minutes and still not scored.

    The old tippy tappy from left to right; and tippy tappy from right to left is a piss poor tactic that has never worked.

    Giro on his own at CF is just not good enough – just see how Sakho played with pace, energy and strength – and when he and Walcott played together – well neither of them are going to move us forward to being title contenders.

    Same old, same old — but Wenger will tell us ‘we were a beet leggy’ — yes- and rubbish.

    Wham were the best team – end of.

  47. Gööner In Exile says:

    Cech was culpable for both goals, that said I would have been a tad pissed off the way everyone backed off Zarate on the second.

    It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that West Ham had far more competitive games under their belt, that said if we had kept a clean sheet we should have been able to make the space and ball work to our advantage as the game went on.

  48. RA says:

    Hi Rock,

    You said you did not understand why we had such little control in midfield – could it be Le Coq had his first drop in performance – Santi is not, and never will be, a defensive midfielder, he was over-run by Coyote, and Payme – and Rambo strove with every sinew and it just did not work for him, neither in defense (?) or supporting Giro.

    Apart from that — all was well. 🙂

  49. The Cockie Monster says:

    If we`re doing predictions………I predicted before the Community Shield that todays game was the MWG, not the Chav one !. 😉

  50. RA says:

    Sorry, if I sound a leetle beet dissolutioned, but my high hopes have been crushed as soon as the starting pistol went.

    Bit like when I was 16 and I thought Bette was going to make out with me – and I saw her kissing some short assed git.
    Brought it all back!! 😀

  51. The Cockie Monster says:

    On the bright side, we are at the moment (until Scousers play) only one point behind our main rivals for 4 place trophy………………that’s everyone apart from Manshafter, Mansour and Chavs !.

    How we doing on the Swingometer ?.

  52. Rasp says:

    With due respect to you RA, IMO the reversion to the tippy tappy tactic represents a level of complacency.

    From what I hear, the game was lost in midfield as so many were at the start of last season.

    This is not a new problem – it is the old one recurring.

  53. Big Raddy says:

    I cannot understand how WHU had control of the midfield.

    Furthermore, what was the point of Debuchy and Monreal lobbing high balls into the box – we didn’t win a single one.

    As many have said, we wouldn’t have scored if we played until Monday

  54. RA says:

    OK, Rasp, so we are in agreement that tippy tappy lateral movement is not good – we differ as regards the meaning of ‘complacent’, which for me is a feeling of smugness or over confident self satisfaction.

    Not sure ‘tippy tappy’ forms any part of that. Not that I could be assed to argue to argue with you – so I withdraw my observation and totally agree with you – of course.

  55. Bayonne Jean says:

    Was that really Almunia in goal?

    And is Woj now enjoying a cigar in his shower in Rome?

  56. RA says:


    I think Exile’s Swing-o-meter has probably shrivelled and is not swinging at the moment. 🙂

  57. Brigham says:

    We were rubbish, were not at the races and Wham were slightly better than us today. The usual poor start to the season that we seem to have most years. Things can only get better!

  58. RA says:

    The boys will now go on a 6 match unbeaten run which will make us all look like a bunch of wuzes in retrospect. 🙂

  59. The Cockie Monster says:

    Hi Redders !. 😀

    Even me….the most pessimistic of fans who normally thinks we are going to lose every game….thought we were going to hammer The Hammers !……………….good headline for whoever is going to write the match report……….Time for a reality Cech !.

  60. Rasp says:

    RA, the complacency may have been on the part of the manager? Tippt tappy usually becomes a problem when we have too many players operating in the same area

  61. The Cockie Monster says:

    No chance !……….Palace will destroy us !………………headline for next defeat………………….The Eagle has landed and shagged our Arse` !. hahaha

  62. Nice to see the blog is so alive after a loss. It’s been a while chaps, vent your spleens 🙂

  63. The Cockie Monster says:

    I don’t know about that !…………………………………there were some individual performances that were convincing rubbish !. 😆

  64. chas says:

    West Ham Bob could have told is they were going to play like Real Madrid and us like the spuds

  65. The Cockie Monster says:

    Could have told us they have a decent Bus as well !.

  66. IanRealGunner says:

    Off the pace and basically overpowered. Passing was a but sloppy and too one-paced allowing WHU to keep their shape. Looked like a re-run of the Swansea and Sunderland games from last season.

  67. Brigham says:

    Yep, we were sloppy in many areas today. Too much tippy tappy as others have alluded to, but also got caught dwelling on the ball far to often. As I said earlier, not at the races today at all.

  68. Big Raddy says:

    AW is right, not one player can be satisfied with their performance. Our tactics seemed non-existent and that is the fault of the manager.

    Things can only get better.

  69. Rasp says:

    I put it down to too many selfies 😕

  70. Gööner In Exile says:

    I actually don’t think there was any tippy tappy today to talk of today, we never really got round their box to tip and tap, when we are playing badly all the man with the ball sees is the shirt numbers of his teammates, and too often today we were having to look for a miracle ball, we didn’t have a left side to talk of in the first half, and as FGG said giving away a goal in the PL especially away from home
    Is an invitation to shut up shop.

    I have an issue with RA comparing Sakho and Ollie and Theo, simple fact is Sakho looked good when he was left with space, Ollie didn’t get that luxury all game, Sakho got it because we were pushing for the game.

  71. RA says:

    Well, as Peaches has given permission to vent our spleen, I have something that rankles regarding complacency.

    Every club, seems to have gone out and bought a new player or two or three or four to try and shake things up and improve their play, especially among the top echelons………all that is except Arsenal who are satisfied with buying a ropey GK (assessed by GIE). 🙂

    Wenger has said more than once that he is happy with the squad he has — and then uses the weasel words that he does not rule out buying a better player if the package is right which I take to mean some other club cannot wait to give us a top rate player for next to nothing — yeah right.

    Now if we are talking ‘complacency’ it is my opinion that that is a really smug and self satisfied attitude coming from a manager whose team only finished 3rd last season, and whose rivals are all busy adding to their squads.

    Perhaps some will argue with the use of the word ‘complacency’ — and suggest that ‘arrogant’ is more appropriate.

    Looking away from the Premier League for a moment, every top team in Europe, whether they have won the CL or just their own League seeks to add quality to their squads every year, and to dump those players who are deemed to be superfluous.

    Is Mr Wenger being arrogant in saying that pretty much the same players who finished 3rd in the previous season are good enough for the new campaign? It is difficult not to answer in the affirmative after a game such as today’s — even if not too much can be read into one game.

    In truth, in my opinion, AW does not seem either an arrogant or a complacent manager or person – so perhaps it is simply temporary Gallic stubbornness and as in previous transfer windows he will surprise many of us by relenting and make one or two key purchases – starting at CF. 🙂

  72. RA says:


    They say one man’s meat is another man’s poison’ and, in this instance, you seem to expect me to disregard what I saw with my own eyes, and, from comments read elsewhere – the eyes of 90% of the fans who watched the game – that we spent far too much time passing across the face of their penalty box – first in one direction and then back the other way.

    You disagree – so that’s fine, you are, like me entitled to your opinion.

    You also claim that my reference to the difference between the sharp, speedy effectiveness of Sakho, which I saw with my own eyes, as compared with the listless performance of Giro can be explained by available space or lack of it.

    Wenger has said that no Arsenal player can be satisfied with their individual performances today, so you are not only disagreeing with me on specifics, but with the manager on generalities.

    You sound like you are making excuses for Giro – and that is up to you – the point that I was actually making was that Giro [and or Theo] are good enough to take us to the next level at CF in order to make us genuine title contenders.

    Please feel free to disagree. 🙂

  73. RA says:

    ‘are not good enough total us to the next level’

  74. fatgingergooner says:


    the problem with that is Wenger only brought Lehmann in the year we were Invincible, so its easy to see why he would be of the opinion that continuity is better than bringing loads of players in.

    i dont have much of an issue with our squad as it is, because every team in the world wants a world class striker and there arent any to buy.if one was obviously available and Wenger turned it down then thats another matter.

  75. GunnerN5 says:

    I’m not into venting after just one game but it seemed like the players believed the pregame hype and turned up expecting to simply set foot on the pitch and walk off with 3 easy points.

    Those of us who feel that we need a “real” striker had our opinions backed up by today’s insipid striking performance.

    We will be faced with the 4-1-4-1 line up which easily collapses into a 5-4-1 many more times this season so if we can’t figure it out we will be nothing more than after thoughts.

  76. Big Raddy says:

    There are still 3 weeks until the transfer window closes but I agree with FGG’s 5.17

  77. RA says:


    I do not seem to remember saying Wenger should bring in ‘loads’ of players.

    I do recall saying – ‘maybe he [AW] will surprise many of us by relenting and make one or two key purchases – starting at CF.

    Must be my day to have words put in my comments. 🙂

    There is a market for everything and every man [or football club] has his price – if we want someone enough, we would find a willing seller at the right price.
    The problem with that is AW is unlikely to be a willing buyer – and I cannot really fault him for that – especially as he does not agree with me – and never has! 😀

  78. RA says:

    Three cheers for GN5 – I am not alone out there – but be careful, daring to make an innocuous statement that our current CFs are not going to take us to the next level in order to win the Prem this season seems to cause such outrage. 🙂

    How very dare I? 🙂

  79. RA says:

    Damn! Coutinho has just scored a super goal. 😦

  80. GunnerN5 says:

    RA – Dare to dare!!

  81. RA says:

    Very true, GN5. 🙂

    Anyway, I think I have done my bit to stir up the blog, as requested by Peaches, so I am now shutting up shop and going for coffee and a roll.

    Hope things are well with you – and with Kelsey, too, hopefully, as he has not been on here for a while, and we could do with him and his take on things – and his inside knowledge on transfers and the like! 🙂

  82. The Cockie Monster says:

    How dare Redders think we could afford to buy a better player than we already have with only £200M in the bank !……not enough to prise away a player if the price was right !. 😀

    I`m with you Redders if I understand your thinking ……………a club which finishes 3rd has a manager who thinks we do not have to strengthen whereas the clubs that finish around or above us do !……………£200M is not enough !………… Micky, that is just enough for one player imo !. hahaha

    Wenger is saying that Wham were a head of us in fitness because of their EL exploits !…………..something I predicted on here weeks ago, that they would be fit and up for it because of the EL !.

  83. The Cockie Monster says:

    Yes !……I miss Kelsey too…………he`d probably go into great detail as to why we have at least £200m in the bank !…………..actually he`d probably say it was a mouth watering amount more !. hahaha

  84. RA says:

    Yippee, just turning the laptop off and there is the lovely Cockie daring to agree with me!!

    I currently run around in a used Focus which cost me £500, and keeps breaking down for some reason.

    I was thinking of splashing out on a white van previously used by some guy in Cornwall for delivering patisseries, pasties and pies – costing £600 — but I’m not sure I dare now! 😀

  85. The Cockie Monster says:

    Turn it off, Redders !………………..too much daring, you need to lay down and relax to some Sperm Whale music !……Omm Omm Omm 😀

  86. GoonerB says:

    Difficult commenting from abroad but I agree with Redders…and i love sperm whale music.

  87. armstrongsjockstrap says:

    You brought the result on yourselves. Describing WHU as cannon fodder !Your team was as arrogant as your opening article and your fans were leaving as quick as they could before the end. The Hammers just done you, just accept it and eat humble pie for a change. They wont finish above you this season, but you just were not good enough……you obviously aren’t as good as you think you are.

  88. GoonerB says:

    In a taverna watching 2 Greek ladies doing traditional dancing that i am sure would make cockie dribble from the corner of his mouth.

  89. Iiportant says:

    Absolutely correct Armstrong! The one thing I hate about football today, is that they are already predicting what’s going to happen before the match starts. If we are going to do that we might as well not bother. Wenger is a great manager, railing against the ridiculous money that is being paid for these players etc. but we could fill a book arguing about that one. West Ham really deserved their win. So good luck to them.

  90. Big Raddy says:

    Armstrong & Lip. If you bothered to read the post you would realise it was written by a WHU fan and not a Gooner.

    And if you read the comments you would know that we all accept WHU were the better team on the day

    But presumption is the problem isn’t it?

  91. GoonerB says:

    Raddy, I had already presumed that you would chastise the presumptious, so i needn’t bother.

  92. Gööner In Exile says:

    Two or three seasons ago Wenger was chastised after Fulham came to our place and secured a draw (from memory maybe even beat us) and the man who we should have signed was Berbatov, I rest my case.

  93. fatgingergooner says:

    In fairness BR, you can’t expect them to read or understand the post if there are no pictures.

  94. Eddie says:

    you have to laugh

  95. Red Arnie says:

    OK, been there done that. Rewind opening game against Villa 2 years back.

    The main positive is that we are bottom of the league and it cannot get any worse.

    The main negative is that this is early advantage Shitty. But early days, so no major worries. The players will get fired up, I hope.

  96. RC78 says:

    What a rubbish performance from our squad both defensively and offensively…One stand-out performer: Ox.

    For the rest, well below average…

    Our marquee signing made two errors that led to two cheap goals.
    Our “solid defensive CBs” were outclassed and our promising DM was out of place and left alone by Gung-Ho Ramsey and ineffective Cazorla…

    Now after display, I hope that we can all agree that we need a CB and a DM still if we really want to compete for the EPL title…and that our Full-backs are good but not great…

    Come on – let us get Garay and Bender or Motta or Carvalho.

    One positive was Ozil s attitude – he was really wired up unlike Ramsey, BFG or Debuchy…

    Cech – Bellerin, Garay, Kos, Monreal – Ox, Bender, Ramsey or Cazorla – Ozil – Walcott, Sanchez

    I think that Ox is on-fire and we must have him as a starter…so let us make way for him by putting either Ramsey or Cazorla on the bench, depending on form and let us play Walcott up front…

  97. Red Arnie says:

    why can I not remember Bob’s post from last year? onset of dementia, I suspect. 🙂

  98. neamman says:

    One game, don’t panic.

  99. chas says:

  100. fatgingergooner says:

    Well sleep hasn’t helped me digest yesterday’s awful performance.

    No offence to West Ham, who were very good, but losing at home to them is not good enough for top 4, nevermind challenging for the title.

    The team reminded me of a s**t boxer who hypes himself up before a big fight and then goes and gets knocked out in the first round.

    Now we’ve got a very tough trip to Palace followed by Liverpool at home. This ‘fast start’ that I’ve heard all pre season could become a pipe dream.

    The team needs to get their arses in gear sharpish.

  101. Gööner In Exile says:

  102. RA says:

    I agree with you, FGG, a night’s sleep did not help to ease the sense of disappointment at the performance and the result.

    Part of me says it is stupid to over-react to any defeat, especially the first game of the season with another 37 to go, but the more volatile part is really choked at yet another duff start to our campaign after such a promising pre-season.

    Of course if we beat Palace (note the ‘if’) all will be forgotten and optimism will reign again. 🙂

  103. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    Yesterday’s game felt like deja vu to the start of last season.

    We have the vast majority of possession, rarely threaten, the opposition score a sucker-punch goal and then we buzz around much sweat and little inspiration.

    Tactics? I cannot judge but lobbing balls into the box from the wings was never going to work.

    Their goal? I think it was Monreal’s inability to track his man that led to the goal. He should have been in front of the attacker.

    We will improve.

  104. Anyone want to write a few words for a post today?

  105. mickydidit89 says:

    I’m innocent

    I saw nothing, heard nothing, read nothing

    So, who do we blame?

  106. mickydidit89 says:

    Who played left mid/wing and who played right mid/wing?

  107. Eddie says:

    micky – nobody. They were all pretending they were playing, but in all honesty they were just fecking about

    it’s going to be a long time before I pay again and be subjected to such display of incompetence

  108. mickydidit89 says:

    Oh dear, just read through comments
    I think Peaches may have the solution “Can we pretend it’s a friendly and start again next week”

    So, in the meantime….. 🙂

  109. mickydidit89 says:

    Ah ha, Eddie to the rescue

    Thing is, conceding two goals at home is actually good news, and only becomes bad news when you don’t score three or more 🙂

    We can stiffen the defence as much as anyone wants, but aiming for the more “pragmatic” approach of the rock steady 1-0 ain’t for the likes of us Eddie

    We want goal fests 🙂

  110. Red Arnie says:

    Motning all. Sad. 😦

  111. Red Arnie says:

    Evonne. 😦

  112. Red Arnie says:

    Micky. “conceding two goals at home is actually good news, and only becomes bad news when you don’t score three or more” 🙂

  113. mickydidit89 says:

    Interesting how there’s no consensus as to what when wrong.

    We have over confidence, tactics, team selection, motivation, goalie, defence, midfield and attack.

    Whatever happened to blaming the ref? 🙂

  114. mickydidit89 says:

    5-4 Arnie, 5-4 🙂

  115. Big Raddy says:

    I blame Margaret Thatcher.

  116. mickydidit89 says:


    Sometimes people need to remember who is the greatest manager of the post war era, and it isn’t Arsene Wenger. It’s Ossie Ardiles.

    Experts like me will remember his superb 3-2-5 formation which we acknowledged as being just shy of 2-3-5 which is universally recognized by me as the only way to go.

  117. mickydidit89 says:


    I did think about you yesterday when at a festival and I noticed a big Moroccan Bedouin style tent filled with bean bags, carpets, candles and your sorts. It was called the Happy Hippy Hookah

  118. Red Arnie says:

    ha ha ha, Micky. I’d love a 5-4 victory. 🙂

    “no consensus as to what when wrong”? You know te reason. EVERYTHING! oh dear. 😦

  119. Red Arnie says:

    Nice comment, Micky. 🙂

    Raddy. Yes, blame Thatcher. 🙂

  120. Red Arnie says:

    Can we perhaps choose one comment that Peaches can put up as a post?

  121. mickydidit89 says:

    Yesterday. Superb cliff top setting

  122. As you all know I’m more than happy to pinch someones comment as a post but I need a heads up as to whose ………… any ideas, I’m around for about half an hour.

  123. mickydidit89 says:

    In other words Peaches, who’s view shall we tear to shreds 🙂

    Seriously though, I suggest Eddie. No goals, no pay to go.

  124. GoonerB says:

    Raddy your earlier comment about lobbing balls into the box. I feel the presence of Giroud invites us to attack in this way. It seems the support cast all want to play a different way but at the last minute dont see the opportunity so resort to this more basic final ball. I dont think a big less mobile forward really suits us, whoever it is, and the natural way we want to attack breaks down on this.

    Micky, your question answers the other main problem for me. Ozil just starting to look the deal at number 10 so lets put him on the left mostly? Cazorla forming a good partnership with le coq so lets put ramsey there instead,who is not as good bringing the ball out from deep, and push cazorla into more Ozils role? Winning games with the quicker striker so lets change to the slower striker?

    Aaaahhhh. With Ranieri back do we now have 2 tinker men in the epl? I dont care if its in room 101 but….square pegs in round holes….it is deja vu to early last season when we did the same thing and were looking disjointed.

  125. Red Arnie says:

    Redders @7:59am

    Or, RC78 @8:51pm

    Maybe both together?

  126. ‘morning all,

    Phew! What a stinker!

    We started with Plan A, when that didn’t work we changed to …er…. well…. Plan A. Great thinking Arsene!

    What was that useless great lump Giroud doing in the starting line-up?

    Open the piggy bank Arsene, buy us a striker!

  127. I’ve written one ………………….

  128. New Post everyone ……………………

  129. Rasp says:

    Morning all,

    I’m beginning to think along the lines of others this morning.

    Apart from the obvious need for a better CF, I do agree we played people out of their best positions and changed the team around which made the team unbalanced.

    The loss of Bellerin was a problem but surely we should be able to cope with that – everyone has been saying we’ve got strength in depth.

    The problem is in the desire to play the best players rather than the players that are best in a certain position.

    From what we have available, I’d like to see a front 3 of Alexis, Theo and The Ox …. but where does that leave Ozil?

    Coquelin and Cazorla at the back was a great partnership last season – why not stick with it?

    Ramsey is trying hard but once again seems unsure of his role in the team.

  130. i couldnt hear any booing after the game yesterday on tv. was there any?

    i remember after the Villa game 2 years ago there was plenty!

    at least things have improved on that front.

  131. Everybody had left before the final whistle, FG.

  132. wally says:

    Well, xmas wasn’t much fun. Our shiny new toy is left wanting.

    I won’t blame Cech. The first goal is on Monreal. He just stood there as kouyate waltzed buy him. He looked like he thought he was responsible for holding the line. Monreal was two steps away from coyote when he nods it in. Cech was helpless. The 2nd was on ox, much too heavy a touch (and he wasn’t alone in that dept yesterday) zarate is first to the ball, ox goes the wrong way and has the entire net to shoot for.

    As others have observed, too much individuality out there. Even sanchez looked disinterested.

    We put in a lot of crosses yesterday, very un-Arsenal, and not enough targets in the box. Bilic coached them up and they were full value.

    Let’s hope it’s a good wake-up call.

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