Arsenal fans lied to again?

For the early part of this season I have been trying to work out why there was such animosity towards the club.

Yes we were not playing at our best, but there were mitigating circumstances, mainly of the injury variety.

The discontent grew on the terraces and the blogs, and I still found it difficult to correlate the level of complaint with the level of performance.

Finally it struck me, us Arsenal fans had been fed a couple of myths during the barren years that made us expect more.

1) Trophy bounce:

We had heard on so many occasions that we needed to win a cup to get us going again, it would be a platform to build on, it’s what Maureen did with Chavs and what Mancini did with City, Arsenal needed to get winning again.

We closed 2013-14 season with the FA Cup and followed that up with a demolition of City in the Community Shield, expectations rose dramatically.

 Since beating Manure in 2005 the list of FA Cup winners has been as follows:

  • 2005 – Arsenal
  • 2006 – Liverpool
  • 2007 – Chelsea
  • 2008 – Portsmouth
  • 2009 – Chelsea
  • 2010 – Chelsea
  • 2011 – Manchester City
  • 2012 – Chelsea
  • 2013 – Wigan

So is it really true that the FA Cup could be used as a springboard, or was it just that Chelsea had spent the most money over this period and hence went on to win titles as well? When are their PL titles?

  • 2005 – Chelsea
  • 2006 – Chelsea
  • 2007 – Manchester United
  • 2008 – Manchester United
  • 2009 – Manchester United
  • 2010 – Chelsea
  • 2011 – Manchester United
  • 2012 – Manchester City
  • 2013 – Manchester United
  • 2014 – Manchester City

So is there really any real noticeable affect of using the FA Cup as a springboard to success in the League? Not really Chelsea’s first title win followed their FACup triumph in 2000, hardly a springboard, yes it happened for City but they are the exception to the norm.

A similar thing is said of the League Cup and many fans put our indifferent form in the last few years down to that moment against Birmingham, again the evidence is patchy at best.

  • 2004 – Middlesborough
  • 2005 – Chelsea
  • 2006 – Manchester United
  • 2007 – Chelsea
  • 2008 – Tottenham
  • 2009 – Manchester United
  • 2010 – Manchester United
  • 2011 – Birmingham
  • 2012 – Liverpool
  • 2013 – Swansea
  • 2014 – Manchester City

Again only one year can we see a bounce on for League Cup to League winners for a team that hadn’t won the League in a while (Chelsea).

So this is why we were lied to, constantly told that whilst Wenger prioritised the money making exercise of the 4th place trophy over winning cups we would never compete for the title again. Yet this ignored so many other factors, and with only two examples of Cup to League bounce in those lean years this really was a media invented stick to beat the club and manager with.

2) Must spend money to challenge again

This is probably the biggest lie, and maybe the one that upset the fan base the most, we were constantly told that the Scrooges in charge of the purse strings at Arsenal were screwing us over, we were spending no money and we were getting no success.

In the last few seasons this trend has been bucked, in that since the full control of the club was taken by Kroenke we have net spent over £100m.

So why no success, the wisdom was that we needed to start spending and spending big to win the league and champions league.

Ignoring all the teams like Liverpool, Tottenham and Stoke who had considerably higher net spends during the barren years lets just look at how long it took the injection of money to bear fruit at Chelsea and City.

Abramovich took over in 2003, in the next two years he spent £210m and they won the league, in today’s money that would be closer to £350m, City got oiled up in 2008 they spent close to £500m before they got those greasy hands on the League title.

By that you can see how much more it costs to buy the PL title in more recent seasons.

So maybe this is not as much of a lie to Arsenal fans as it is true that spending some money does help you in a quest for trophies, but whilst it’s easy to say some money it’s the amount required that is never mentioned. I don’t think even the most trophy hungry fans would demand the level of expenditure needed.

Both of these lies/myths have to some extent led to the level of criticism witnessed earlier in the season culminating in the ridiculous scenes at Stoke train station and the banners on the terraces demanding the managers removal, yet here we sit 8 games to go another chance at the FA Cup and 2 injuries away from a successful league campaign.

We will see the bright lights of league titles again, we may have to be a little more patient in the mean time.

Gooner in Exile

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83 Responses to Arsenal fans lied to again?

  1. GoonerB says:

    Morning all, sorry I have been AWOL for the last few fine posts from Steve and a Raddy brace. I have read them all and fine they are. I should have more time later today so do intend to give a collective comment on the points brought up in those (stop right there you lot, I can see you all scarpering with a “better give this afternoon a miss if GB is commenting”).

    Raddy are you putting up GN5’s great earlier comment for a post? If so I will wait until this one is up.

    RA, your 11.11 yesterday was very imaginative and brought out a slight chuckle in me until I realised you had put me up as the site schizophrenic. 3 personalities Redders???…actually come to think of it I could argue a 4th one. Yep definitely a schizo old GoonerB.

  2. GoonerB says:

    Sorry GIE I am always getting caught out by the new post bit. Thought I would bring my comment forward and will come back to your undoubted fine post later if I may.

  3. PV4 says:

    Bang on the money! It is so easy to criticise Arsenal as they have always been the target of cheap journalism. The extortionate amount spent by Chelski, Citeh and to an extent Manure, is the reason that football in many areas across the globe is struggling. Our achievements are by and large down to the fact that we did not get an itchy trigger finger, took the knocks and maintained an impressively high level of football with an incredibly small budget. It is easy for Maureen to bleat on that we should have done better – but I wonder what he would have achieved under such restrictions? Give Tony Pulis his or City’s cash and he too would be lauded for how much he had boug..won!

    Arsenal fans don’t really believe that they have been lied to – truth is they know really that AW has worked miracles, but it is so easy to jump on the media bandwagon and scream for someone’s head.

  4. RA says:

    Umm, GoonerB – can we add — Pinocchio to the list, as your schnoz is growing by the minute.

    GN5 explained that he had pinched the comment you refer to from a professional journalist – and it cannot be used as a headline Post.

    So you either did not read what you claimed to have done — or you knew it was never going to be a headline Post on AA and, your threat to come back and comment when it is up, is a lightly disguised way of disappearing from AA.

    Shame on you Pinocchio! 🙂

  5. Clinton says:

    The writer is right. This days epl can only be bought. Wenger should start considering buying the right players

  6. RA says:

    Not sure about Lies/Myths, Exile, as people have a habit of believing or disbelieving what suits their own agenda, and agendas tend to require a scapegoat.

    With regard to ‘buying’ titles, I have said before on AA and perhaps I can repeat it now, as so many of the ‘old regulars’ have gone and the newbies will not have read the meanderings of Chairman Moi GoonerB’s bestest friend. 🙂

    Here is an easy to understand allegory.

    Imagine three guys who are all experienced, reasonable drivers of similar ability, who have arranged a road race from London to Edinburgh with the winner appearing on local TV as some kind of hero.

    These guys have different levels of personal wealth and decide to buy new cars commensurate with what they can afford.

    — The first guy buys a top of the range Ford Mondeo.
    — The second guy buys a Jaguar XF.
    — The third guy buys a McLaren P1.

    Off they go — and guess what — the guy with the McLaren wins, the guy with the Jag comes second, and ……. well you know the rest.

    I wonder if the ability to buy the most expensive cars had anything to do with the result. [Warning: that is rhetorical.] 🙂

    Citeh and The Chavs, figuratively, have respectively bought the McLaren and the Jaguar, or in reality by buying the best and mainly most expensive players, broadly out of the financial reach of clubs like Arsenal.

    So, is there seriously anyone who cannot understand the part money has played in winning football trophies, and why Arsenal have struggled?

    If you took the Chavs or Citeh out of the EPL, would there be any surprise if Arsenal and Manure shared the spoils between them rather than the financially poorer clubs like Villa, Stoke and co?

  7. TinyTotts says:

    Should we really be proud though?, our fans pay through the nose so we can ‘do things the right way’. Is this really any better than being owned by Usmanov and buying success (with slightly cheaper ticket prices)?, I’m really not sure it is.

    Paying amongst the highest ticket prices in the world to watch us battle for 4th is hardly a great achievement, I understand what you’re saying about the obscene spending of chavs/city but when you factor in our wage spend we have only really achieved what would be expected of us.

    AW has not worked miracles he has done okay nothing more, nothing less. Arsenal fans are bored, that is the biggest problem, why else would we have thousands of empty (sold) seats each game?, apart from against the big teams.

    Why did David Dein get involved with Usmanov?, because he could see the way it was going with Chelski and the oil money at City, but the rest of the board ignored him and PHW’s motives were certainly shady in this regard.

  8. stevepalmer1 says:

    Morning all. very good post GIE,
    Although i agree with a lot of what you say, and we all know that buying top talent wins things in the long term, i don’t only see that as the reasons.

    The fact that we had fairly decent players which has been proved by our top 4 results, we have often come up short not only because of injuries, but because we had deficiencies in positions. That i believe has been more damaging than anything else, and i have to say this season has seen the same as well.

    Injuries has been a major factor. This year has been slightly different because we have brought players for positions we needed but not all. The holding Midfield position that has been problematic to us for quite some time, was only relieved somewhat by a quirk of fate. Diaby who is down for that position has been of no use to us from the minute he arrived due to his inability to stay fit. This man has been like a ball and chain around Arsenals ankle for far too long . Diaby must have been pencilled in on Wenger’s radar as a future play maker, We had Cesc who did very well but never seemed that player that had a commanding air about him and finally left us. Arteta came in as stopgap the same with Flamoney but i feel only until Diaby came back. Those two players have stayed longer than was expected, and still no Diaby.

    Wenger now has come to the conclusion that Diaby never will be that player he had hoped for, Diaby is ageing himself, his record can never be changed and injury to Arteta and Flamester brought that word Fate back into existent by recalling Coquelin back from a loan spell which secured the position again.

    Of course previous seasons it was defence other seasons it was attack so on and so on that was the reason for just top 4s and not trophies

    Yes Arsenals Qualifications has been superb but had we covered the positions when they were needed we could still so easily have had more success without a huge expense.

    Stop gap players are temporary, we must get away from that philosophy, and buy the players we need at the time.

  9. Gööner In Exile says:

    Hmmm it seems my post has been misinterpreted, I was searching for reasons as to why this season, post winning a trophy, and post signing some good players for good money and no key players leaving there was still a significant air of discontent bubbling under the surface.

    Those three factors all meant everything was going to be right with the world but it wasn’t and I wonder whether those three factors which had been given as main reasons for our failure to progress were in fact the reason the fans felt so much angst at the teams start to this season.

    Tiny I always find it difficult to get in to a debate about ticket prices, I have documented too many times the similarities between Arsenal, Chav and Totts prices, we can’t conpare London ticket prices with the rest of the country.

  10. Dick Swiveller says:

    I’m afraid I can’t agree that they’re myths.

    Winning a cup gives you the feeling that you want more, and the confidence that you can win more. It’s more than just a short term psychological filip, it helps breed the notorious ‘winning mentality’, an overused term but it fits here, I think.

    Also, we’ve looked better the last few seasons. It might be a co-incidence that we’ve started spending large amounts of money on ‘world class’ (whatever that means) players in that time, but I don’t think so. Now, the notion that we were ABLE to spend that amount of money with the stadium debt is complete bollocks.

    The media lie/misrepresent a large amount of things that go on, so I agree with the general tone, but I think they were right on these things, broken clock and all that.

  11. fatgingergooner says:

    I said at the beginning of the season that the fixtures would make it a stop-start season, and so it has proved. Last year we played all our big games at once, which meant the rest of the season we were able to put together win after win after win, which had us in a false position in some ways, because we had barely played the real challengers for the title.

    This season we have played a big team every few weeks, which has meant more setbacks throughout the season, but also a more realistic league position through most of the season. Some people will look at last year and then looked at the first half of this and say we dropped off, and that’s where the frustration came from, but the reality is we have had a very similar season to last in terms of points. So actually 3rd or 4th is about right and we may even finish higher and beat last seasons total, thus having an improved season compared to last, but the way it’s been paced is the total opposite of last year, which may explain the early frustration.

  12. stevepalmer1 says:

    GIE, your post was clear mate, You seem to worry too much about how others perceive us, I would put that behind you mate as some things never change.

    I may have ventured away from the post a little, that was my fault alone. Arsenal football clubs Ticket prices do not bother me at all if i wanted one i would pay the money and if i want to buy a game ticket i would. People who buy Season tickets have the option or not , once brought you know the price why moan.

    Twenty teams in the Premier all worth different amounts all have different budgets but all wanting the top prize. Only one team can take the Premier league title, and at the start of the season all clubs know should you not lose then there is a good chance that team will be yours.

    As we know to have a winner there also has to be a loser so clubs who start badly have an uphill struggle. Whatever the pundits Press Media say about Arsenal football Club and its always a lot is because of our record> Usually a club with figures like ours is hailed as successful unless they have an axe to grind.

    Many times Supporters who have brought season tickets only because they are afraid that should they let it go they may never get it back again start to listen to the bullshit written and said , and they moan about their lot. for supporters like that i would advise them to watch the games at home and give up their tickets for people that want to be there.

  13. fatgingergooner says:

    It’s so frustrating to hear that Wenger only did an ‘ok’ job during the stadium move. What are we comparing it to? Isn’t the stat that every team who has built a new stadium in PL has been relegated? If that’s the case then I would say Wenger getting Arsenal in the CL every season whilst moving is a miracle!

    I’m really looking forward to other clubs building new stadiums to see how they get on. If they manage to get in the CL whilst it’s happening, then I will accept Wenger did ‘ok’, but if they drop off during the process, then we will finally have a way of assessing Wengers achievements.

  14. stevepalmer1 says:

    Ginge why are you winding yourself up mate. Its never about what others say its what you believe mate, if you feel Wenger has done a splendid job and you are happy, that’s all that matter’s

    Personally i feel he has done extraordinarily well, but i also feel we could have done better. Supporters fans we are never a hundred percent happy ever.

  15. chas says:

    Excellent post, GIE.

    Winning the FA Cup was never going to satisfy some of our fanbase that we were back on the up. Jon and Matt even had people sat near them at the final wondering why they still bothered to come and watch the team.

    The ability to spend and subsequent expectations for increased success is not responsible for the early season vitriol either, as far as I’m concerned.
    The blogs have been banging on about us being 2 or 3 players away from having a successful team, to the point where it has become an accepted fact that this is the case.
    If we win the league, no-one will say. ‘how did we manage that without those extra 2 or 3 quality players?’ 🙂

    Again, as far as I’m concerned, the reason for the vitriol is the dislike of Wenger. TinyTotts only hints at it by decrying his achievement of keeping us up there at the same time as moving stadium.
    There’s no doubt in my mind that LG, BSM and even the AST’s Tim Payton all have the same agenda.

    ‘We want our Arsenal back’ is we want an Arsenal without Wenger at the helm. Everybody thinks they could do better, and as has been mentioned on here plenty of times before, it is society’s entitled generation nonsense which expects us to have as many trophies corresponding to a level of the price of a season ticket.

    Apologies if this is a bit of a ramble ( I’ve been reading too many of the camel-wormer’s magnum opii 🙂 )

  16. Big Raddy says:

    GIE and chas. I think many of these “fans” grew up during the early AW years when ones heroes are infallible.

    To me Radford, Charlie George and Frank McLintock are giants of football history. For them it is DB10 and TH14. For young gooners today it will be Ox and OG and Santi etc

    This is only part of the problem.

    Their angst is the responsibility of my generations parenting skills which gave rise to the Me-Generation and it’s “I want it now and I deserve it now” attitude.

    The “myths/lies” did not come from the club nor Mr Wenger but were generated by the media. Expectation of silverware on a regular basis is illogical. Only one club can win the PL and it is usually the one with the deepest pockets. No-one slagged off the Chavs last season when they only won the Coca-Cola/Dunlopillo Mattress Cup did they?

  17. RA says:

    Chas,

    You say magnum opi, I say magnum opuses – but I actually prefer Magnum Pistachio. 🙂 Yummm.

  18. RA says:

    Anyway, Chas, leave my buddy the camel wormer extraordinaire alone — he cannot help being windy. 🙂

  19. mickydidit89 says:

    Great stuff Exile, and producing some thoughtful comments. So bravo.

    I would happily forfeit last season’s fantastic cup win, and indeed any trophy for the next ten years, if we could get shot of the whingers at the ground.

    I do realise that Arsenal and football means more to others than it does to me in terms of where it all sits in the grand thing called life, but really, the quality of football we get to watch is very often top notch.

    Yes I’d love AFC to be spending zillions of other peoples’ money on the world’s finest players, but it has never been about buying players to win per se, rather to entertain me 🙂

  20. mickydidit89 says:

    Magnificent Octopus as you well know RA 🙂

  21. mickydidit89 says:

    Big windy gusts expected, and I’ve planted some young trees.

    Here’s a useful tip. Recycled old bicycle inner tubes make really good ties. Perfect elasticity and don’t damage the bark.

    You do get wise words from me occasionally 🙂

  22. mickydidit89 says:

    Bath and out.
    Till dawn….bye

  23. RA says:

    There were about 16 legs involved, Micky, so magnificent octopi it is then. 🙂

  24. Rasp says:

    Great post GiE. I take all your points on board and as usual I think the truth is a mycelium with threads that pass through many influences.

    Do we really believe Arsenal fans are any better or any worse than any other established EPL side?

    We do have a slightly different demographic in our fanbase (more AB1s after the new stadium) also more multicultural, more female supporters. But beyond that, the perceived difference between Arsenal and other clubs is that we profess to be the ones who ‘do it properly’ and this makes us a target for the media and maybe even some referees.

    Our suppoprters buy into this. Arsenal has more blogs than any other club and I wouldn’t mind betting that the standard of Arsenal blogs (with noteable exceptions) is also very high.

    High expectation could be viewed as a positive by the club …. how would the owner feel if Arsenal supporters did not have ambition for the club I wonder?

  25. Gööner In Exile says:

    Rasp, I’m sure all clubs have their share of moaners, and without being in ground it is hard to judge others. However we seem to go through a crisis year on year and I fear that the noisy minority allow it to fester and join in when the media lay in to us. Obviously the media has its own agenda it wants a sacking especially early season, and the way our fan base divides in those periods encourages them further.

    Steve said earlier that I care too much about what others think of us, that is probably true.

    After our first leg with Monaco I had a Leedsfan client tell me that TS was right Maureen would never had allowed that to happen, so when i see him for the first time since Chelsea’s exit do you think he will admit that even Maureen has off days? Probably not.

  26. Rasp says:

    No I get that GiE, and I agree.

    We all profess to dislike scapegoating and yet Arsenal fans seem to be blamed for too many things I feel. I can’t think of any other commercial enterprise where the customers get blamed for the performance of the company.

    Football is different. The players and training staff are human and will be affected to an extent by what they perceive coming back at them from supporters, but my recent first hand experience of the way trainees who have not yet signed a professional contract view the situation has been somewhat of a revelation. These young players are completely single minded and focused on their careers – what is best for the club is not their first agenda.

  27. mickydidit89 says:

    Hooray, not going out.

    Rasp

    Raddy has mycelium in his threads, but that’s because he’s dirty and never washes them.

    Great comment and a post in it’s own right.

  28. mickydidit89 says:

    Hi Exile

    No doubt other clubs have their moaners. The bloke I went to the cup final with is part of League South West Sewage or something, and even there, he said you get the blokes with “rights” that Raddy rightly referred to.

    Arsenals home fan problem is a combo of the me generation and not enough working class fellas

  29. Rasp says:

    True Micky – also the design of the stadium doesn’t help the atmosphere (but very good for the pitch apparently 🙂 )

  30. mickydidit89 says:

    Also too many women. Odd one…fine, but it was better before.

    Yip, stadium design is beyond terrible. I could do better.

  31. mickydidit89 says:

    In fact, now I’m not going out, I might design one this evening. Nothing else to do.

  32. mickydidit89 says:

    Update
    The design is going well, but one question before I leave you in peace. Do the bogs have to have individual urinals, or can we go back to having a slash against the wall like we did behind the North Bank?

    Nite.

  33. chas says:

    Arsenal fans should be better than fans of other established EPL sides, shouldn’t they?
    Would you want to have so little ambition for your fellow fans, that being similar to Chelsea fans is the most you can expect? 🙂

    A fair proportion (the ones displaying the animosity) don’t buy into the notion that Arsenal ‘do it properly’, in fact I’d say the complete opposite. They view the Club as a monolithic parasite leeching away their hard-earned without respect for fans’ opinions.

    High ambition and hopes for the Club are fine.
    High expectation is usually going to lead to disappointment for the various reasons given by GIE and BR. Why would the Club view expectations likely to be unfulfilled as a positive?

    I don’t think Arsenal fans are scapegoated.
    They should rightly be blamed when they knowingly cause disruption and schisms within the Club.
    I also don’t think that our ‘customers get blamed for the performance of the company’.
    Some ‘customers’ may not make their small contribution to improving the performance of the Club; that is a separate thing entirely.

  34. chas says:

    Micky
    Can you re-design the bogs just outside our block?

    The entrance is very narrow and gets blocked immediately there is a queue for the cubicles at the end of this very narrow passage. Most just want to water the horses but can’t get in because of the greedy few who insist on pinching one off at half-time.
    Also along this tight narrow passage is the only flippin hot air hand-dryer for that half of the toilet. What kind of moron would have located it there?

    Thanks, in anticipation of some intelligent re-design.

  35. Rasp says:

    Hi chas, I assume your comment was in response to mine 🙂

    Why should Arsenal fans be better than other established PL sides? I have no affinity with Chelsea fans.

    I think you are unfortunate in where you sit and also sensitive to the comments of those around you.

    I agree high expectation inevitably leads to disappointment – but that is the bittersweet experience of being a football supporter.

    Arsenal fans are often blamed in part for poor performances on this site – if not ‘scapegoating’, what other word describes this I wonder? The implication of ‘scapegoating’ is that it is to a degree, unfair.

    Each supporter is an individual. They all have different mentalities and approaches. I do not presume to think I can read the minds of those I don’t know but I do have the right to disagree with one who expresses an opinion with which I don’t agree if they choose to engage with me.

    The club will not necessarily view optimistic expectations as ‘unlikely to be fulfilled’ – maybe they would want to exude a more confident approach …. Gazidis certainly does that at every AGM

    I think the point is that Football (Arsenal) although a business has customers who are emotionally involved and feel they are a part of the club and by and large deserve their say

  36. stevepalmer1 says:

    Morning all, few sherbets last night, and had a bit of a restless night so up early reading the comments.

    The trouble with Arsenal supporters i feel is they get to emotional and when an insult or a criticism against the club comes up they feel they have to defend the club like its their wife or partner.

    Its a football club that’s all, you wont chat it up and take it home ply it with drinks and then get your leg over,

    Supporters of long standing, short standing, or the guy who buys a ticket for one game is no better or no worse, there is no set time that you have to do, to become an Arsenal supporter.
    Football is a game, forget Bill Shankly and all that shit he spouted,it’s just a game of football,

    Supporters get carried away by the Bill Shankleys they feel they should have that passion Why!!! Many of us pick a team when your young, some maybe went with Dads Uncles Brothers, others just picked a team and are still following now, No one person is any better no matter how much it has cost you,

    I liken football, to what the Romans did, although the Romans used human life to battle out in an arena, a spectacle where people went to be entertained that’s fine till your one of the players.

    Arena sports in those days was depicted to have been brutal but crowds filled arena’s. Most of the competitor’s were slaves brought and sold until they met there fate.

    Football has different rules, but the idea of getting the public to watch is still the same, There was probably a guy on the gate taking money, probably food and drink stalls, maybe they had crowded toilets who knows but there to watch a spectacle..

    They had Gladiators owned by Masters, who challenged another Master until all Gladiators met their fate, Spartacus was supposed to be good He lasted a few fights and the public took to him, What he was was a trained Killer he didn’t care who he killed as he would kill anybody to survive, Today we have football stars pampered and paid fortunes probably like the Gladiators get their leg over before a game, the difference now is that no body has to die.

    Romans was brought up with the arena, The fighting and the brutality it was common place just like bull fighting in Spain where some thing has to die.

    Football stirs up passion probably bred into us over the years, still now some people are prepared to fight for the honour.

    At the end of the day civilisation has taught us that you don’t have to die to be entertained, you can go to the Emirates buy a ticket have a burger and a beer and sit in comfort with your mate or partner and be entertained, watch the game and go home to a nice comfy home. No one killed no one hurt. Did your gladiator win, In Rome he was not about for the next games, but in football he will be there next week.

    Never ever be told what it should be, and what you should do, If you enjoy it go if you don’t try something else.

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  39. RA says:

    Good Morning Geezers, 🙂

    Now I know that I am a ‘customer’ of AA – altho a non-paying customer – but I would lie to exercise my right to have a moan about a perceived injustice perpetrated by the esteemed Maitre D’ – aka Rasp.

    He used the word ‘mycelium’ which would have caused me grief for being a pain in the derriere, should I have had the temerity to use it.

    That is disgraceful victimisation by the AA bosses — why couldn’t he have just said ‘fungus’ like the rest of us? Boo.

    😀

  40. mickydidit89 says:

    Chas
    “pinching one off” oh how I ROLFED
    Plans nearly done. Just got the colouring in to do. Will use the ones I got with my last kiddies meal.

    I’m watching the cricket final on liveonlinefooty.

  41. chas says:

    The runs are flowing. No chance of a Kiwi comeback even with that early wicket.

  42. chas says:

  43. mickydidit89 says:

    What colour do England play in for these one dayers?

  44. chas says:

    White with a yellow streak down the middle of the back.

  45. mickydidit89 says:

    Weird. Red streak surely.

  46. mickydidit89 says:

    Great pic. Bet the bloke in the background has a title

  47. mickydidit89 says:

    Ok, enough coffee. Later

  48. Eddie says:

    I feel mean coming here just to moan or rather let off the steam. I am furious!! There is no News bulletin, a sports’ programme or a back page of a tabloid that is not full of Harry bloody Kane. And what gets my blood boiling is the fact that we were so close to having him playing for us and basking in the English best player glory now. Instead we have been denied that, cheated, robbed. We have to hate him just as we hate the next Spud. How did that happen??

  49. Rasp says:

    Hi Redders,

    I studied A level Botany so my use of ‘mycelium’ was not as contrived as you may think. Chas’ pics of the mycelium show that it is a myriad of fine threads which spread through the soil to absorb nutrient. The above ground mushroom-like structures are merely the reproductive organ of the fungus …. here ends today’s lesson on the mycology 😆

  50. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    Up early to watch the cricket. Shame NZ bottled the final but F1 was better.

    Eddie. It is marvellous that Spurs have another player to give them hope only to see it dashed when he leaves.

    I love what Arseblog said about him – “the worst thing about Kane is that he is good enough to improve Spurs but not good enough to interest Real Madrid”

  51. mickydidit89 says:

    Prefer my explanation regarding Raddy’s threads, but there we go 🙂

    Eddie
    Kane is a flash in the pan and will never be an exciting footballer

    I really aren’t here

  52. Big Raddy says:

    Not happy to see Ramsey off with a hamstring injury, nor the knee knack which Welbeck received on International duty.

  53. Big Raddy says:

    Micky. Leave my threads out of it. Nothing wrong with velvet loon flares, tie-dye t-shirt and of course the afghan coat. All doused in oil of pachouli

  54. Eddie says:

    sorry to be argumentative (contrary to my natural predisposition 🙂 ), but I really think that Kane is an exceptional player, he will go far, very far. We also tried cheering ourselves up by saying that Bale was a one trick pony, and hmmmm he wasn’t. Did you that free kick last night?

    I am just living in hope that some big club will buy him this summer

  55. chas says:

  56. chas says:

  57. RA says:

    Hi Eddie,

    Kane was released by Arsenal when he was 8 years old — like hundreds of other kids.

    Releasing kids from nippers to teenagers happens all the time at every club.

    Nice to see you back — it has been a moan free blog in your absence – and Chas’s’s has missed you. 🙂

  58. RA says:

    Chas’sss, is the lady sitting in the middle, in the blue dress, actually standing on your head? 🙂

    Or does it belong to the Hippy?

  59. Rasp says:

    Not another hamstring injury???? Cesc was plagued with hamstring problems for his last 2 seasons. The Ox was sent out to play with a tight hamstring. The club really has a grip on this, we suffer too many soft tissue injuries.

  60. Big Raddy says:

    Shame Alexis couldn’t score at THOF.

    Strangely quiet here on AA.

  61. chas says:

  62. Gonna need posts for this week if anyone fancies writing something. Thanks

  63. chas says:

  64. chas says:

  65. mickydidit89 says:

    Wow, the Arsenal Wives pic.
    Genuinely scary. Front left? Either very “homely” or she hadn’t come out yet.
    Be amazing to compare to the 2015 vintage and it’d prove that money can buy you a fair amount of happiness 🙂

  66. chas says:

    All I could find…

  67. mickydidit89 says:

    Yip, thought so 🙂

  68. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    I think I went out with a couple of the girls in the ’69 pic. Might have married one but you know how damaging excessive use of the bong is to the memory 😦

  69. mickydidit89 says:

    Raddy
    Here’s to hoping that front left doesn’t look familiar in any way

  70. mickydidit89 says:

    Can’t think of a post topic without resorting to a Best Looking Ever AFC Wives XI 😦

    Mind you, I think less blogging is probably good for us. Bit like the old days when it was Saturday only.

    Really looking forward to this Saturday and the Pool game

  71. mickydidit89 says:

    Just looked on AFC site about injuries
    Arsene speaking on March 19, said about three weeks for Arteta, Debs, Jack and Ox.
    Should be up to full power very soon.

  72. Morning all

    Steve wrote a post about the England game from Friday night which didn’t get on the blog over the weekend so I’m just doing some editing so that we can use it today.

  73. New Post everyone …………………….

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