Arsenal versus Manchester United

Three things inspiring this short conversation starter…………………….

 

  1. Watching England, and comparisons between Rooney and Welbeck as Central Striker.
  2. Both AFC and Utd signed defenders from Southampton in Shaw and Chambers.
  3. Both added World Class Forwards in Sanchez and Falcao.
  4. Yesterday, 26 posted his combined AFC/Chav XI.

Few things to consider.

Falcao is on epically massive wages, and something of a crock, so how will that pan out in terms of team morale.

It’s a tricky one to select a combined XI given LVG’s penchant for a 3-7 formation, so let’s settle on a 4-3-3, but you can muck about if that’s your thing.

I realize that squad depth will be a major factor over the season, and here we have to choose just one starting XI.

Finally, who did the better summer transfer business?

MickyDidIt89

 

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105 Responses to Arsenal versus Manchester United

  1. mickydidit89 says:

    Oh ok, four things 🙂

    Hope we attract some Utd supporters for a bit on input today.

  2. mickydidit89 says:

    Or anybody 🙂

  3. chas mobile says:

    Rooney is shite.
    Shaw is chubby.
    Falcao has wrecked knees.
    We did.

  4. mickydidit89 says:

    First up: Di Maria

    For many seasons now, I’ve believed Arsenal have been crying out for a genuine left sided forward, and Di Maria is certainly one of those.

    During the summer, I remember looking up his stats and found his record in four years at Real Madrid was 36 goals in 191 games. Mmm

  5. RA says:

    Micky,

    This is the EPL squad for 2014/15

    Squad member
    1. Wojciech Szczesny HG
    2. Mathieu Debuchy
    3. Kieran Gibbs HG
    4. Per Mertesacker
    6. Laurent Koscielny
    7. Tomas Rosicky
    8. Mikel Arteta
    9. Lukas Podolski
    11. Mesut Özil
    12. Olivier Giroud
    13. David Ospina
    14. Theo Walcott HG
    16. Aaron Ramsey HG
    17. Alexis Sánchez
    18 Nacho Monreal
    19. Santiago Cazorla
    20. Mathieu Flamini
    23. Danny Welbeck HG
    24. Vassiriki Abou Diaby
    26. Damián Martinez
    28. Joel Campbell
    34. Francis Coquelin
    38. Chuba Akpom
    39. Héctor Bellerín

    Under 21 players :
    10. Jack Wilshere
    15. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
    21. Calum Chambers
    22. Yaya Sanogo
    27. Serge Gnabry
    35. Gedion Zelalem
    42. Isaac Hayden

  6. TwentyTwelve says:

    Found this somewhat relevant tidbit on the web. Wonder if it is true.

    Welbeck July 2009, as quoted by Inside United Magazine:

    “When I was younger my hero was Thierry Henry.”

    “I just wanted to be doing the stuff he was doing, he was quality.”

  7. Norfolk Gooner says:

    ‘mornin all,

    Cheer up Mr. Didit I’m sure your excellent post will draw in the punters…eventually. 😀

    Before getting into the subject of the post I’d like to give my thoughts on our dead-line day signing.

    I always thought Danny Welbeck was an egotistical show off and not much cop as a player. But then I despise anyone even remotely attached to Manure.

    Watching last night’s cameo appearence I realise that I may have been maligning the bloke just a bit. He can actually play, he’s young, he looks to have an eye for goal, a decent shot and is prepared to take on defenders. He’ll certainly give a fit again Ollie a run for his money in the Central Striker Stakes and he makes Sanogo look like the very model of an also ran. At a reported transfer fee of £16 million and wages around the £100k mark he’s a bit of a steal.

    Right now I will consider the Didit man’s conundrums.

  8. 26may1989 says:

    Instinctively, I want to say that Falcao has to be considered the superior forward. But for all the chat about him, in reality he’s in his late 20s and this is the first time he’s joined a truly elite club.

    Falcao’s goal scoring record is superb, the man is definitely the real deal. But being the big money guy doesn’t always work out – just ask the Chavs about Torres. United remain a very flawed outfit – they’ll win games, big games, but there are too many problems in defence and midfield for them to overcome this season.

    Should we have signed him? The gossip suggests we put in a bid, but I just can’t believe we would have accepted his extraordinary wages, given the potential for destabilising the mood in the squad. Even if Falcao scores 30 goals this season, those will come at the price of >£400,000 per goal just in wages, closer to £650,000 if the loan fee is included.

  9. anon says:

    DDG, debuchy, Mertesacker, Rojo, Shaw, Ozil, Ramsey, Blind, Di Maria, Falcao/RVP, Sanchez.

  10. 26may1989 says:

    Combo United-Arse team:

    ———————-Szczesny
    Debuchy, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Gibbs
    ——————-Arteta, Ramsey
    ————Sanchez, Ozil, di Maria
    ———————van Persie

  11. Simon says:

    combined 11 ( I know not alot of rojo, blind or Herrera so based my selection on the likes of Jones, Smalling etc) :

    Szczesny

    Debuchy – BFG – Kos – Gibbs

    Ramsey – Arteta – Ozil

    Alexis – Falcao – Di Maria

    I think we did the better business this summer, even if we didn’t get a back up CB and a holding midfield. We identified what we needed early and bought early,replacing outgoing players with equal or better players. Manchester United seemed to take a scatter gun approach to buying players, bringing in two admittedly world class forwards they arguably didn’t need and neglecting the defence, where they needed most investment except for 3 left sided wing backs/full backs

  12. mickydidit89 says:

    Who is/are Utd’s defensive midfielders. Is Blind playing there or LB.

    Neither side look very strong in this department.

  13. mickydidit89 says:

    I sense a battle between Brave Sir Robin and Falcao for the striking berth

  14. 26may1989 says:

    Agreed micky, that’s why Arteta (by default) gets into my combined team. Some excitable bods might suggest Chambers but that seems a bit premature to me.

    I don’t really understand why Unitedistas are getting so excited about Blind, he’s no better than alright. And their loyalty to de Gea is commendable, if misconceived.

  15. Shard says:

    The battle of the wobbly knees!

    Well..Hopefully at least.

  16. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Combined Arsenal/Manure team

    —————TPIG
    Debuchy Merts Kos Gibbs
    ———Arteta Ramsey
    Walcott Ozil Sanchez
    ———-Welbeck

  17. Shard says:

    1. I’ve never liked Rooney and apart from some of his goals, I don’t see why so much is made of him. Welbeck, still developing, but has potential (though Rooney had more at one point of time) In any case, I think Welbeck has qualities that we might otherwise be lacking.

    For England, if they can stop pandering to Rooney and Gerrard and actually play the youngsters they might have a good capable squad. But that won’t happen because the media will go crazy without their superstars.. And also..Jordan Henderson gets so much happy coverage. Why?

    2. Haha..and also.. Shaw going to the World Cup ahead of Gibbs made no sense.

    3. Falcao scores some wonderful goals but has doubts over his fitness, his age, and his mentality seeing as he has stayed away from the biggest clubs till now. Also, expensive. But a goal scorer nonetheless.

    Sanchez has shown himself to be very adaptable to different cultures and roles. It remains to be seen whether he can play as a striker (although he did well in the World Cup) but I’m happy we got him.

    4. Bleeurgh

    5. Combined Manc-Ars XI..Hmmmm

    ———-Szcz
    Debuchy Mert- Kos- Gibbs (Do the Mancs even have a defense?)

    ——–Ramsey—Arteta
    Sanchez—–Ozil——-Di Maria

    ———-Van Persie

    Herrera/Blind/Wilshere for Arteta was close but Wilshere doesn’t get it and I know less about the others, Walcott for Sanchez or Di Maria too, and Falcao for Van Persie.

    Surprising that it’s only 2 Mancs in the first 11, but I think it just shows that they have some very good players in attack which we lack, but that we are a better rounded squad.

  18. mickydidit89 says:

    Ha ha Norfolk
    I knew it wouldn’t be long.

    26
    I must say I really fail to see what LVG’s master plan is, as it appears to obvious the defensive spine of their side needed strengthening.

    Still, I’m all in favour of teams going for the “we’ll score more than you” approach. There will be many goals in Utd games’ this season, that’s for sure.

    I can’t pick my side yet, as I need persuading there’s a Utd player I could pick in defence or midfield.

  19. mickydidit89 says:

    Mata is another player I like, but where?

  20. Why are people trying to compose a best MU/AFC team?

  21. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Shard, don’t forget Gerrard has retired from International football and Rooney is only in the England team on past reputation. Before too long he’ll be dropped in favour of a striker who can run and think at the same time.

  22. fatgingergooner says:

    Ha! Did someone seriously just put Rojo in over Koscielny!? Based on what exactly!? His tattoos?

    Szscesny
    Chambers Mertersacker Kozzer
    Walcott Cazorla Ramsey Özil Di Maria
    Sanchez Falcao

    If LVG can play 3-5-2 all out attack then so can I!

    None of the HM players are good enough so I will just leave them all out, and United are terrible at the back so can’t justify putting any of those in either. I’m definitely not going to put Blind or Rojo based on one WC campaign! It was a toss up between Gibbs and Shaw, mainly due to Gibbs’ injury record, so I just left them both out. I think Herrera will be a class player but he hasn’t done it in the PL yet. Neither has Özil I suppose but he’s too good to leave out, as is Cazorla IMO. RVP and Rooney have been average for 12 months and Giroud and Welbeck aren’t good enough yet. Falcao may have a dodgy knee but he’s been unbelievable for the last 5 or 6 years and scores goals for fun.

    As for transfer business (business being the operative word) Arsenal have by far done the better of the two. They have bought players with huge potential at good ages who will improve the side. United have spent way over the odds on at least 2 of their signings with no chance of reclaiming the money due to age. If United go through with the £50m Falcao deal then it’s financial suicide. He will be nearly 30 by the time he signs his £350k a week deal! Buying a world class player can make all the difference (RVP won them the PL on his own), but buying them whilst the base of your team is a mess is a terrible strategy. LVG is building the team the wrong way round IMO.

  23. anon mufc says:

    One has to wonder why there are a few picking the whole of the Arsenal defence over uniteds. Take last season, we were terrible and finished 7th. Arsenal finished 4th and had 4 of the current back 5 (inc GK) and sagna (decent player). Yet you only conceded 2 fewer goals than united. Are you sure your back 4 are that much better than a back 4 of rafael, jones, rojo and shaw? Type in arsenal defensive mistakes into a search engine and have fun reading. And Arteta over Herrera or blind in a holding role? Hmm. 22nd November should be interesting.

  24. anon mufc says:

    @fatgingergooner: Blind was Eredivisie player of the year. As regards transfers, United needed to buy for now, that’s why ” United have spent way over the odds on at least 2 of their signings with no chance of reclaiming the money due to age”. Arsenal can afford to gamble on potential, united currently cannot as there is a need to get back into europe. Both have made good signings, but both could also have signed a CM and CB.

  25. anon mufc says:

    And while I am here – even though we have started slowly and have had injuries and players not yet playing we have still conceded less goals than Arsenal. And if City beat you in the next game and we beat QPR we will be above you in the table. Not trying to antagonise, just an observation.

  26. RC78 says:

    Szecesny – Debuchy, Kos, ROJO, SHAW – Ramsey, HERRERA, DI MARIA – Walcott, FALCAO, Sanchez

    Who got the best players on paper? Man Utd with the acquisition of star players such as Di Maria and Falcao and emerging stars like Shaw, Herrera and Rojo.

    Who better addressed the team’s needs? I would have to say they both did as well and as poorly. As well, because they addressed some offensive gaps and as poorly, because they forgot to strengthen defensively.

    Who did the better business? Arsenal as we spent a lot less and still managed to get quality players like Sanchez and Chambers.

    Who is better equipped to win the league? I would have to say that on paper, Man Utd is stronger than us because they have a lot more depth and I do believe that LVG will revert to a back four shortly, which will give them the defensive stability they are lacking and will allow them to free up their offensive potential. If he stays as a 3-5-2, then Arsenal has better chances to win the league.

    Starting XI Battle (4-3-3 formation):

    Szecesny vs De Gea – I would give the edge to PIG
    Debuchy vs Jones – I would give the edge to Debs
    BFG vs Evans – I would give the edge to BFG
    Kos vs Rojo – Tie
    Arteta vs Carrick (yes he ll be back) – Carrick
    Ramsey vs Herrera – Ramsey
    Ozil vs Mata – Mata
    Walcott vs Rooney or RVP – Walcott as Rooney or RVP would have to play wide
    Giroud vs Falcao – Falcao
    Sanchez vs Di Maria – Tie

    In terms of starting XI, I believe that we are stronger but overall as a squad, they have more depth than us and usually, the bench is key to having a successful season. Given the fact they do not have any CL to play and now only one Cup, I believe they will be in top 4.

    This year’s top 4 battle will be fierce between:
    Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool and you can add Everton and Tottenham to the mix as well.

    I would say that the EPL will finish as such:
    1. Chelsea
    2. City
    3. Man Utd
    4. Arsenal
    5. Liverpool
    6. Tottenham
    7. Everton

    If we finish in the Top 3 and keep our Cup and reach 1/2 final of CL, we will have had a great season…In my humble opinion…but what do I know?

  27. RA says:

    Anon, It’s all just about opinions, and on an Arsenal blog it is hardly surprising that the people we support, know and see almost every week are likely to get the nod over another team’s players.

    Incidentally, putting up Shaw and Rojo, one a kid the other a guy most have never seen, is a bit on the flimsy side. 🙂

  28. RA says:

    The world is full of ifs, and buts. If my aunt had a moustache she would be my uncle, but ……. hey wait a minute, that doesn’t work, she has got a moustache …. rem, my aunt is my uncle and he has big tities, so there. 🙂

  29. RA says:

    That’s a rubbish Post, Micky, far too long, just read the Happy Hippy’s efforts and learn!! 🙂

  30. RC78 says:

    RA – Rojo is top drawer as you will find out. He can also play left back but I think that as a LCB, he can do wonders…As for Shaw, I had to decide and I think he has greater aptitudes than Gibbs and I did not want to put Blind as he is more effective as a left midfielder than as a Full-Back. I do not really rate Gibbs nor Monreal and I hoped, in vain, that AW would bring in a left back but of well…I also dreamed that we will get a CDM :-p

  31. 26may1989 says:

    Hi anon mufc

    Some fair points in there. Our defensive performance was very weird last year: absolutely shambolic in the away games at Cheslea, City, Liverpool and Everton; one of the best around in all the other games. Hence Szczesny getting golden gloves (jointly with Cech) for most clean sheets.

    In terms of personnel, I would honsetly say that taking our entire back five over any of your defenders and GK is reasonable, I just think they are better. Not necessarily the best around but better than United’s. Perhaps Blind and Rojo will do something, we shall see, but right now, whether they will be of the right quality and mentality, and crucially whether a coherent defensive unit can emerge, is guesswork.

    Blind and the Eredivisie? I watch the odd Dutch game, and of course, Dutch footy should be admired, because it’s produced so many wonderful players. But the quality of the Eredivisie is about the same as Ligue 1 – good but not brilliant.

    As for Sagna, I think most Arsenal fans observed his declining pace and would feel that (like Didier Deschamps at France) we’ve got the better French right back.

    I’d expect United to qualify for European competition next year, but probably the Europa!

  32. mickydidit89 says:

    Anon

    Thanks for comments and braving an oppo. site. I happen to think both sides have very exciting attacks, and brittle defences, so I’m expecting highly entertaining games between the two sides.

    RC78

    Wow, what a great analysis.

  33. salim says:

    arsenal/man utd combined
    de gea
    rafael mertersacker rojo shaw
    herrera blind
    rooney
    falcao di maria
    rvp

    falcao,rvp,di maria and rooney are world’s class players , ramsey is coming to be wc but still he has to prove, too early to compare him to rooney who has won everything at club level, or even mata who led chlsea to glory in 2 seasons as their best player. ozil is wc but too lazy compared to rooney or di maria. arteta and flamin are too old, while herrera and blind are new talents who shined at la liga and holland league respctvly. welbeck has bright future but nt nw to compare him to falcao or rooney. wenger had to sign falcao/cavani,cavalho and fabregas.

  34. Eddie says:

    salim is a manc, but what is worse is that 26m chose rvp in his combined squad.

    I think that only di Maria is a better player than maybe Cazorla, but not sure, we shall see

  35. RC78 says:

    On another note –

    I thought that Wilshere was rubbish yesterday, that Ox was average but that Wellbeck brought in some spark to England’s game and was looking rather sharp for someone with a knock on the ankle.

    Wilshere needs to rediscover his form ASAP or else he will just be on the list of “great potential gone unfullfilled”.

    Ox definitely needs to play simpler, he is trying to hard at times and I do believe that his work rate is excellent but he is not effective enough.

    Wellbeck – good touch and quick eye to the goal. I liked that. He is going to add smt new to the team, which is great.

  36. RC78 says:

    Micky :-p

  37. 26may1989 says:

    Sorry to upset you, Eddie! I’m just not bitter about RvP: the only thing he did wrong was speaking publicly about wanting to go while he was still with us, because that improved United’s negotiating position and damaged ours – that on its own may have cost us a few million on the fee, and that is certainly an act of disloyalty.

    But painful as it was given where he ended up, for him to leave was reasonable – it was his last go at both silverware and a big contract. As fans, we’re emotional beings, of course, and players go along with that, but really, they’re doing a job – they should give their best wherever they go, but I wouldn’t begrudge anyone the chance at progressing themselves.

    And purely in terms of quality, he remains the best proven PL striker at either United or Arsenal. Falcao of course may usurp him, but right now, van Persie is the best in the two clubs.

    I wonder what he really thinks now though. Yes, he got his PL winners’ medal but last year was an embarrassment and this year could be every bit as bad. Was it worth it? Probably, but I’m sure if he’s honest he’d rather be with us this season.

  38. mickydidit89 says:

    Sorry Eddie, but I agree with 26 on Brave.

    He did say some stupid things which made him look a bit of a tool, but that kind of eased the pain.

  39. anon mufc says:

    @RA, fair enough points. Obv I can’t speak from a position of strength based on last season and the start of this season. For the record I think Arsenal have a very good team. We’d do well to finish above you as we are in the process of rebuilding whereas you are trying to kick on from a strong position. If everything clicks then of course we can be up there.

    As regards welbeck – I like him, obv a product of the academy and a local lad as well. But by god is he frustrating. Finished like henry in the youth teams but when he made the step up he lost that ability. Now some might say he needs a run of games; but he did have his chances at utd and didn’t take them. You can’t just hand an unproven finisher a run of games in front of the likes of rvp and rooney – they should take their chance when they get them. Danny is very good when playing teams who hold a high line; not as good when facing a team that sits deep and puts 11 men behind the ball; this is the main reason he looked good against bigger teams – there was space in behind for him to run into. Some days he has a great touch, some days he forgets how to run and falls over a lot. Wenger may make him consistent and he may gain confidence and score goals. But he may not and Danny was unwilling to continue to be 4th striker so had to move on. IMO wilson is a better player than welbeck (def a better finisher), so again it made sense to get rid. That boy is going to be lethal.

    But for £16m it is not much of a risk for Arsenal.

  40. fatgingergooner says:

    RC78,

    United has more depth? Really! If we assume their first XI is

    DDG
    Jones Smalling Rojo
    Rafael Herrera Carrick Mata Di Maria
    Falcao Rooney

    Their second XI

    Lindegard
    James Evans Blackett
    Valencia Fellaini Blind Fletcher Young
    RVP Januzaj

    Not exactly top class is it?

    Anon,

    United having to buy for now is a fair argument, but it doesn’t mean you pay £38m for a LB! Or line up a £50m move for a 29 year old striker coming off a serious knee injury (who you didn’t need anywhere near as much as other areas). Or sell a 23 year old English striker to a rival who you know are desperate for a striker!

    I actually think United have a very strong first XI, and not playing in Europe is a massive plus, but continue with 3-5-2 and get a couple of injuries and I think they will struggle for top 4. As for the title, no chance.

    My other concern for United is the majority of their signings have come from abroad. With the exception of maybe Di Maria, I think the others will take time to settle.

  41. mickydidit89 says:

    Anon

    From the little I’ve seen of Welbeck, that sounds like a very fair assessment.

    As you say, at £16m it is low risk, but many fans at Arsenal believe that despite his qualities, Giroud’s lack of pace does not allow us to get the most out of the Ozils. Only time will tell whether Arsene gives him a run through the middle, out left with Sanchez in the centre, and whether he finds the consistency you say he lacks.

  42. mickydidit89 says:

    FGG

    Rooney over Brave? Wow, that’ll really get the Dutchman questioning his inner child 🙂

  43. RC78 says:

    GK – Advantage Arsenal
    RB – Rafael, Valencia vs Debuchy, Bellerin – Adv Man Utd
    CB – Jones, Smalling, Evans, Rojo vs BFG, Kos, Chambers – Adv Arsenal
    LB – Shaw, Blind vs Gibbs, Monreal – Adv Man Utd

    DM – Carrick, Fellaini vs Arteta, Flamini – Tie
    M – Herrerra, Fletcher vs Ramsey, Wilshere – Adv Arsenal
    AM/Winger – Di Maria, Mata, Young, Januzaj vs Sanchez, Ozil, Cazorla, Ox – Tie

    FW/ST – Falcao, RVP, Rooney vs Giroud, Wellbeck, Walcott – Adv Man Utd

    BUT we also have: Rosicky, Gnabry, Podolski, Campbell and Sanogo + 1 Arsenal

    Total – Arsenal 4 – Utd 3

    So I suppose that FGG is right, we have a deeper bench so we are more equipped than Utd to win the EPL and should finish above them – let us hope so 🙂

  44. Big Raddy says:

    One of the best posts I have ever read!

    As to the combined side, any team has to have Walcott.

    Without Theo’s pace the team lacks zip. RvP and Falcao are hardly greyhounds, nor is OG or Rooney.

    IMO Rooney doesn’t get in the team, nor does any of the current MU defence.

    And how on earth can you not have Ramsey who would have won the Player of the Year had he stayed fit?

    Actually, it’s a bit of a balls ache trying to figure this team out – I prefer the game when it’s Spurs/AFC because it is so much easier 😀

  45. anon mufc says:

    @fatgingergooner: shaw was £27m. Not a bad price if he fulfills his potential and is at the club for 10 years or more. We paid slightly more for Rio in 2002 and that was 12 years ago – with inflation the cost for Rio is £40m in today’s prices. That didn’t work out too bad.

    Falcao is 28 (arguably at the start of his prime years), but yes he had a fairly serious injury. And that’s why the loan makes sense – if he does the business then we will buy him, if not then we will let him go. Not much of a gamble. That we sold you Danny tells you all you really need to know – if he’d have been in demand from abroad we would’ve sold him to another club. But he wasn’t. It was only yourselves and Spurs in for him. Again, he might prove us wrong, and fair play if he does.

    @mickydidit89: Giroud does have a lack of pace, which is a problem when playing the bigger games because sometimes you have to rely on the counter attack. This is where Danny is handy. Whether he finishes the one on one is another thing. (See Welbeck vs Neuer last season CL for Exhibit A).

    Anyway, I only stumbled in here via newsnow and have lingered too long. Good luck for the season lads/ladies – I have a lot of time for arsenal. Feel free to sell us Ramsey next summer. 😉

  46. fatgingergooner says:

    Man United’s fixture could be telling at the end of the season too. Yes, we all play everyone twice, but United’s first 6 games are all mid-lower table sides. They have 2 points so far and if it takes another 2-3 games to bed new players in then they are falling further behind all the time. They then play Everton, City, Chelsea and Arsenal in 4 of their next 6 fixtures! If they haven’t got any momentum (which is difficult to find in 3 games!) and end up losing 2 or 3 of these games then they will be back to square one in terms of confidence with a third of the season gone.

    Of course it’s all ifs and buts, and they may not lose another game this season, but if I was a gambling man I would say they will be way off the pace come the beginning of December, and it’s always difficult to play catch up.

  47. kelsey says:

    Thanks for the post Micky.

    To be honest I think if one was entirely honest and showed no bias it is impossible to pick a combined team.

    We have new signings as do United and as said above there are too many ifs.

    Ask me again say at Xmas.

    I think we are stronger in certain positions and weaker in others.
    Value for money I have to say we should nick it.

    With regards to England and the players from both teams it is interesting that on UK TV more people watched The Great British Bake off Than the friendly last night.Says it all really.

  48. arnie says:

    Lovely stuff, Micky, short, sweet and deep! 😛

    And for me, the short answer is to echo Chas from 9:59AM.

    “Rooney is shite.
    Shaw is chubby.
    Falcao has wrecked knees.
    We did.”

  49. GoonerB says:

    Thanks Micky. For someone who normally enjoys all that tactical bollix stuff I always find these best combined 11’s almost impossible. Once you think you have it sorted you look at who you left out and question it again. As such I don’t always think it is the best individual player for each position but sometimes the best compliment to each other. Here goes, and this is assuming everyone is fit :

    Szczesny

    Debuchy Mertesacker Koscielny Gibbs

    Jones Ramsey

    Sanchez Ozil Di-Maria

    RVP

    Some differences to others but this is the team I would look at and think would play well together and understand each other, and has a blend of technique, goals, power and pace.

    Not much to choose between the GK’s so I go with my heart there. I genuinely think our back 4 are the better as a unit at the moment so went with them. I can see Shaw’s potential but last season I thought Gibb’s was one of the best LFB’s in the EPL and is massively underrated. IMO it was a massive oversight to not take him to the WC over Shaw.

    I like Jones as a player and think he has a great blend of power, pace and technique. I have put him in front of the back 4 in DM. Would be pretty hard to break this team down with that back 4 and him in there.

    Rambo gets the DM slot with the box to box license. Ozil sits in the hole behind RVP with the 2 attacking wing forwards either side very much like the Bayern system with Robben and Ribery.

    RVP, I know, I know, but with everyone fit he has to play up front and being EPL adapted he gets the nod over Falcao for me.

    Can I just say that having had a look at some of the articles and comments by some of the Utd fans (and those like anon on here earlier) regarding Wellbeck, I am pleasantly surprised about how many are wishing him well and hoping he does well with us. To wish him to reach his full potential at a domestic rival is being very magnanimous on their behalf. I can’t say I was like that with RVP but the circumstances and the way the transfer unfolded were a bit different I suppose. Oh yes, and Danny didn’t spend 75% of his time with Utd on the treatment table while collecting a big wage packet before giving 1 good season and buggering off.

  50. aizedlittlemozart says:

    i’ll go with kelsey & say “ask me again at xmas”.

    too many players could fulfil untold potentials, too many could disappoint. Ifs & buts…..ifs & buts.

    my submission though will be that, if Welbs fulfils his said potential (provided he becomes the main man at the tip of the attack) over the next 4 months, I see giroud becoming 2nd striker. but, even this is ifs & buts……(say that long enough & it starts to sound like tits & butts). 😀

  51. GunnerN5 says:

    Way too early to say MD but it’s apparent that both teams have improved their overall squads for 2014/15.

    I’m excited about the skills and combination of youth and experience that Chambers, Sanchez, Debuchy and Welbeck will add to our team plus in Ospina Szczesny has viable competition in goal. But like other bloggers I felt we needed to add steel to our defense as well.

  52. GunnerN5 says:

    It’s interesting to note that after 3 games played only 4 teams remain undefeated, Chelsea, Swansea, Aston Villa and Arsenal, and only 2 teams have 100% records – Chelsea and Swansea.

    Oh, and if Chelsea continue at their current rate they will end up with 139 goals for the season and have a goal difference of + 89.

  53. 26may1989 says:

    Sounds worryingly like Exile’s swingometer, GN5 – and look at how that turns out!

  54. GunnerN5 says:

    Did you know? Danny Welbeck had England’s only shot on target (other than Wayne Rooney’s penalty) against Norway.

  55. GunnerN5 says:

    I know 26, but at least it’s understandable (no offense intended GIE)

  56. Manthan says:

    Now we have welbeck in the team we should go for Alexis/Ox — Welbeck/OG — Theo/Campbell as front 3 and ozil and santi rotation as Playmaker this will be very successful against so called big team.. Keeping fingures crossed don’t wanna see Santi or Ozil playing on wings anymore.. Wenger please listen

  57. Manthan says:

    😛

  58. 26may1989 says:

    And then there are the rubbish ones:

  59. Eddie says:

    26m – I am glad you are about 🙂 yes, I am bitter about the Traitor and will always remain bitter. It is not about how he left and what bulls he talked, it is the fact that he stayed for 7 years in the physio room and only played a full season when he knew he will be leaving.

    I think he cost us more than a few mils, 7 years without him and keeping him on the payroll.

    micky – of course he is stupid. Remember how he thought that a Croatian horses’ placenta was going to cure his broken leg?? Fecking ejeet

  60. 26may1989 says:

    Pity the fool who crosses Eddie, for she is a woman of passion!

  61. Eddie says:

    are you saying i’m a nutter? 🙂

  62. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Excellent post Micky

    I dont like Man Utd fans, and they dont like me. I like my boobs on women not men. I still cant work out wether there all on hormone therapy like my Uncle Brenda or overdosed on bovril, either way i dont like it.

    Of course utd will come back. There a great club and have some good players, but its our time now, not theres.

    The only Utd player I would take is that Webeck bloke. Looks a great player to me and admit that hes better than any of the strikers weve currently got, but they would be fools to sell him to us.

    The Ghosts of the Thirties are Stirring

  63. 8in8 says:

    Thank you
    Blog fantastic
    Good luck
    ……………….
    http://www.8ii.in

  64. mickydidit89 says:

    How can I make plans when there’s thick mist in front of all the Cornish Surfcam lenses 😦

    Was planning to pick up children after school and head down with tents, but predicted flat calm. Oh massive shitballls

  65. mickydidit89 says:

    Just had board meeting with children.

    Deals done. We go. And take snorkels and flippers in case goes too flat on Saturday.

  66. chas says:

    I wish I could go shurfing on this fitba-free weekend.

  67. chas says:

    This was posted by that Northcore chap on Facepalm.

    http://www.londonsurffilmfestival.com/shorts/2014/

  68. mickydidit89 says:

    Jump in the motor and bogey on down and join us. Pimples.

  69. mickydidit89 says:

    Nooo, don’t bogey down. Boogey is less messy 😦

  70. mickydidit89 says:

    Chas

    Superb link to the London Surf Film Festival. Must watch all.

    Do you remember last year’s entries and I linked to that crazy bloke in Cornwall who was a board shaper. Great short. Will watch all of this years’ later.

  71. RA says:

    Morning,

    Terry, I am a bit worried about you — well I am a lot worried about you actually, but you better be careful not to incur the wrath of Chas.

    You said, @12:26,

    –“There a great club and have some good players”, clearly mixing up your ‘there’, ‘their’ and ‘they’re’.

    C/mon, you’ve gotta tri herder. 🙂

  72. RA says:

    You too, Micky,

    I think you meant ‘boogie’, not ‘bogey’ or ‘boogey’.

    Jeez, this could become a pain. 🙂

  73. mickydidit89 says:

    Another great vid. Like I said a few day’s ago, Chambers could easily prove to be the buy of the window, and I mean by anyone.

    I love his confidence, and the fact that he is so talkie and vocal. Clear captain material.

  74. mickydidit89 says:

    Great isn’t it RA, I try and correct my own spelling with another wrong ‘un 🙂

  75. chas says:

    RA
    We couldn’t have a spell-off, as I don’t know half the words you do. 🙂 (the only reason I mentioned it the other day was because I liked the idea that it was only in Norfolk that a barn owl’s wings were silent)

    Micky
    Yes, the board shaper man was the first thing to come into my mind when the link was posted.

  76. mickydidit89 says:

    Wake up Transplant

    It’s going to be “Have a go at RA Friday” 🙂

  77. chas says:

    Micky
    I’d be embarrassed in front of you professionals.
    Besides, I have a few distractions planned already.
    Thank you immensely for the offer though.

  78. mickydidit89 says:

    Screw the distractions and associated fluids, Ill take my wife’s wetsuit which will fit you being size skinny

  79. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    Cycling for me this weekend, nothing in the LB mode, more a gentle trip up the coast with a lunch stop at a fish restaurant in Helsingborg.

    Leaving at about 10 from Svannemøllen station if anyone wants to join us.

  80. mickydidit89 says:

    🙂 Raddy

  81. mickydidit89 says:

    “lunch stop at a fish restaurant”, he says.

    Forgot to mention that afterwards it’s into the pop-up meditation light refracting ambient mediation and relaxation shit eastern buddhist bullshit tent

    That’s what you’re sort do, isn’t it? 🙂

  82. RA says:

    Chas, you made me chuckle, because you were right, and you have a good sense of humour. 🙂

    I was not kidding about the silent Barn Owls, and not just in Norflok, altho they are being more careful not to disturb baby GIE.

    Listen to pigeons when they take off or change speed in flight, and they make a distinct ‘crack’, even little sparrows make a ‘whirring’ sound when they flutter their wings and so on.

    Barn owls do not do any of these things, and it is part of their evolved strategies to sneak up on unsuspecting meese.

    This noiseless flight and white underbody is how they got their/there/they’re ghostly nick-name. 🙂

  83. RA says:

    I know – Norflok = Norfolk. Finger trouble! 🙂

  84. RA says:

    Micky,

    You make Hippy sound like a well rounded, interesting ……. hippy, 🙂

  85. RA says:

    OK, OK, I admit. I am immensely jealous of you three, with your cycling, Gym and surfing escapades.

    Since my weight ballooned and I tend to crush bikes, have kids referring to me as a bouncy castle in the gym, and am in fear of hysterical surfers throwing harpoons at me if I venture into the water.

    Woe, woe is me. 😦

  86. mickydidit89 says:

    Interesting as in specimen?

  87. Big Raddy says:

    RA. All the more reason to get cycling!

    Very interesting about the barn owl. My knees crack when I set off walking – is this a defence mechanism?

    Micky. Our tepee is made of marijuana leaves and pachouli. For some reason people keep cutting bits off it whilst we sleep

  88. mickydidit89 says:

    Hemp underwear Raddy?

  89. mickydidit89 says:

    Hey Raddy

    What does cvr stand for after an address in Denmark?

  90. Bugger me, all this talk of sporty stuff and here I am having my first glass of wine 🙂 mind you, the mari-jeane tent sounds interesting.

    RA the language guru, always there/their/they’re when you don’t want him 🙂

  91. mickydidit89 says:

    Of course, commando, silly me.

    Burn yer bras and all that let it all hang out free and easy I’m not bound by western preconceptions free my mind reincarnation workshop group drum circle bullshit 🙂

  92. mickydidit89 says:

    Hell, someone may be wanting to talk about football. Clear the air.

  93. Obviously not Micky 🙂

  94. Big Raddy says:

    Micky. It is a company number – nothing to do with the address

  95. RA says:

    Too late for football talk.

    Anyhoo, the FFP rules are having some impact even tho’ not as much as some of us had hoped.

    The sale of Falcao (via a loan off) to the Mancs and the sale of Hamie Rodriguez to Real Madrid signals that even Monaco are having to fall in line if they want to play in the CL.

    There is no way their financial model can comply with the FFP rules, with tiny crowds, little commercial sponsorship to balance the books, and the first UEFA financial penalty nibbles at Man City and PSG showing that Monaco would inevitably be next in line for the snip, so they have had to start off loading players – with more to go – in my view.

    Let’s hope the crackdown continues.

  96. RA says:

    Look here NB, shouldn’t you be inhabiting the ‘other site’ waiting to nip in for your next winning comment – or have the newbies stolen your thunder, and maybe your chorizo, along with first? 🙂

  97. mickydidit89 says:

    NB
    We’re not good on football first thing. Maybe need a sip like you 🙂

    Raddy
    Thanks. That’ll explain the very long number that follows it. Pull this deal off, and Copenhagen will need visits 🙂

  98. arnie says:

    Motning all. Lovely football banter! 😛 For me, Mrs and a student visiting from Germany, it is a walk in the Cairngorms National Park, if visibility is good, perhaps up the Cairngorm as well. 🙂

  99. Morning everyone

    Sorry to be so late ………… New Post …………………

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