Leicester 1 Arsenal 1. Still think we can win the League?

There are a few things in football that are certainties. I don’t mean the kind in which a particular team is certain to win the league; this often turns out to be wrong. Neither do I mean the kind in which the club with the largest wage bill like Manchester City fields a team that is certain to beat a lesser light such as Stoke City.

No, the kind of certainties I am talking about are the smaller ones, the kind Arsenal encounter against teams like Leicester: you could have bet your mortgage that they were going to park the proverbial bus and try and hit us on the break and unsurprising to everyone, or at least it should have been, that is exactly what they did and they did it well.

As predictable as it was Wenger fielded a team designed to be able to find a way round such a stubborn defense. The team selection made complete sense to me: with the defensively able Flamini sitting in front of the back four whose principal jobs were to be alert when the breaks inevitably came. The rest needed to possess super close control, precision passing and all be capable of scoring; in other words, there was no need for Wilshere. Or so I thought.

It also made sense to give Sanogo a start; it was only Leicester, the team who had been embarrassingly knocked out of the Capital One cup in the week by a team from a division I had never heard of.

What could possibly go wrong?

Well, the answer to that question is our game plan in which we were supposed to stroll home with all three points, that’s what went wrong.

It was a very frustrating afternoon in which a collection of some of the best midfielders in the League managed to play as disjointed as a chicken after Sunday lunch.

If that is the best team we can field for the next four months and let’s be clear here — it is, then we have got a lot more problems than any of us dared imagine.

Things, of course, didn’t start off this gloomy, the team took to the field with their game plan in tact, followed the script by laying siege to the Leicester goal and got the break through. It wasn’t pretty but we were ahead and I thought that this is one more game in which the players could use to iron out the rough edges on their quest for the Holy Grail of Wenger Ball.

But the one step forward made by Sanchez scoring his first league goal was reversed with the two steps back caused by Koscielny’s injury. Should he have stayed on, shouldn’t he have stayed on, I don’t know, the fact that he did stay played a huge part, in my opinion, of Leicester getting an equalizer.

Can someone remind me how it is that we thought, and I am as guilty if not more, of thinking that the arrival of Ozil and his play last season was something akin to the second coming. Genuine question, I am seriously struggling to remember what it was. Perhaps the first assist when he squared the ball to the on rushing Giroud, this could turn into the “Life of Brian” sketch of “What have the Roman’s ever done for us”. It is interesting to note that he was playing on the left wing that day, just saying.

You all saw the game, we huffed and we puffed but it is just as well that it came to an end after 90 minutes rather than the next goal wins or they could still be playing now.

I want to give special mention to Szczesny whose fine save towards the end of the second half kept us in the game. I also thought Sanchez did very well down the left. I am going to keep a little something back before Sanogo gets both barrels as I want to see what happens when he scores; so much changed for Sanchez when he got his goal against Besiktas in the week that I want to see if the similar uplifting feeling has the same effect on the young Frenchman – but I am not holding my breath.

Not the easy win that some of us foolishly expected and still miles away from the idyllic flowing football envisaged by many, the good news is that Stan is in town, and you know what that means?

New Toys……….Yippee.

Written by LB

We were lucky enough to have two posts for today, here are kelsey’s thoughts.

Are Arsenal just wobbling or is it worse than that ?

Every man and his dog can see the deficiencies in our squad and it wasn’t pleasant viewing yesterday as it was obvious that the whole balance of the side was wrong and I feel that Wenger is still experimenting with his best formation.

Let’s be absolutely honest Leicester deserved to win the game and bar a couple of fine saves by Szczesny we would have lost.

We only know one way of playing and that is Wengerball and it just doesn’t work anymore.

For all the flack Giroud gets he does a good job against the majority of teams, but when you look at how close we came last season, the opening games are showing me that we have regressed.

We have more money than for many a season and the buying of Sanchez showed that we can buy quality players but one can’t honestly say that Sanogo or Campbell are at this moment of time the type of player to fill the void and score vital goals when we are playing against a resolute defence.

People talk how much we miss the speed of Walcott especially down the flanks but at this moment of time no one knows for sure when he will be ready and fully fit to play and at a guess that could be several weeks or months judging by our track record.

We have had all Summer to address the problem and Debuchy is a more than adequate replacement for Sagna and Chambers impresses a lot but was he meant to be playing so regularly at this early stage of the season.

Just look at all our games so far, have we been convincing ?

Winning ugly doesn’t apply as for all our possession, in the majority of games, we have failed to take our chances time and time again. But more alarmingly, every single team has sliced through our defence on the counter attack and IMO we have been fortunate not to concede more.

When I hear our manager speak it’s all double dutch to me or the same old excuses like fatigue from the World Cup or a player needs time as he is still recovering from an injury, or negotiations are extremely difficult when trying to secure a player, but the latter applies to all clubs.

We were predictable to an extent last season but there were times when there was far more fluency to the team.

Why does Wenger keep playing players like Ozil out of position? He adds absolutely nothing out on the wing.

Podolski, regardless of what we think of him has been out of favour and invariably has been a sub, but now our manager states he is an option at Centre Forward. A week ago it looked likely that he was being sold or at least offered in part exchange.

Many of you will say that we are only three games in but just look at our forthcoming fixtures which on paper will provide a much bigger test.

We are into the last day of the transfer window so let’s see what happens, if anything at all, and even if we buy,we will get “the player needs a bedding in period”.

I really think whoever we play in midfield the balance is wrong and there isn’t enough physical presence and again the system we play leads us to be alarmingly cut open by every team we have played so far this season.

Dreaded injuries reared their ugly head yet again and at this moment of time it is not clear how serious they are to Kos, Ozil and Oxlade- Chamberlain.

Silent Stan was in attendance yesterday though I don’t suddenly see him changing his track and even expressing an opinion.

I have to say after careful consideration and allowing for the fact that one accepts that Wenger has total control on absolutely everything, there are too many issues on the field that he should have addressed earlier.

I would like to be proved wrong but my gut instinct tells me we are in for a a very difficult season.




352 Responses to Leicester 1 Arsenal 1. Still think we can win the League?

  1. mickydidit89 says:

    First up, thanks Raddy for yesterdays. Very rude of me.

    Secondly, Chas, just saw the Chambers clip. He has to be the buy of the window by any club. Unbelievable player.

  2. kelsey says:

    You get more choice of toupee in london, LB.

    Anyway a far more reserved post than mine 🙂

  3. mickydidit89 says:

    Wow LB

    What’s going on? This is a Coup 🙂

    Anyway, good news for us lazy bad ass posters. So thank you.

    Plenty to talk about today with this post and some window licking.

  4. Reposted from the previous post:

    “Ah right Kelsey, I hope I haven’t pre empted you too much, oops!

    And another thing, centre backs need longer to bed in than other players as the understanding with their partner takes longer to forge, so we should, have made the Vermaelen replacement the priority.

    Surely we can’t be expecting a 19 year old, who mainly played at right back for his previous club, to be our first port of call when our starting centre backs aren’t available ?

    That can’t be right.”

    Chas, you say he was filling in as right back, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that his previous premier league experience was predominantly at right back and not centre back, IMHO.

    Thanks for your report London, I always find the two worst kind of posts to write are for a defeat or a draw for a game we’re expecting to win.

    I reckon Stan’s in town to get a cheque signed off by Chips so he can buy another ranch, yee-haw !

  5. Norfolk Gooner says:

    ‘morning all,

    I kept away from the keyboard after yesterday’s fiasco, I couldn’t trust myself to stay within the bounds of Peaches’ Mum’s rules on decency.

    I’ve always been a strong supporter of all things Wenger, well almost always, but I’m beginning to doubt his sanity of late. It is utterly ludicrous to suppose, in the continuing absence of Giroud, that Sanogo can be our first choice striker. The boy isn’t even close to the class of Giroud and Giroud hasn’t got that much class anyway.

    By continuing to persevere with Sanogo, what is Wenger saying to Campbell a much more accomplished striker. Don’t be surprised if Joel goes out on loan to Benfica as the Portuguese press is reporting that he has asked Arsenal for permission to go.

    We have “one of the best players in the world” Ozil’s own words in a recent interview, It’s easy to say it to a journalist, it’s a whole lot harder to demonstrate it on a football pitch. He’s in his second season at the club and has yet to really do anything to justify his transfer fee. It has been said that he drifts out of games at times, it seems that he now only drifts into games on the odd occasion. We need to see a whole lot more from him…and soon!

    With two of the most important positions on the pitch filled by underperforming players it is no wonder that we couldn’t overcome a committed but limited side like Leicester City. Despite completing in excess of five hundred passes, having seventy percent possession and creating twenty four attempts on goal we managed a measly one goal.

    Unless we address the striker situation I can’t see us mounting any sort of challenge for the Premiership title, even fourth place is in jeopardy and our quest for trophies looks to have been ended with the Charity Shield.

  6. mickydidit89 says:


    I completely fail to see how Chambers is not a massive improvement on Verm, but then again your judgement is clouded. By bad noise 🙂

  7. Proper Supporter says:

    Yes, of course we can still win the league only the media or an idiot would say otherwise. But let’s just say for a minute that we win it with 36 wins and 2 draws. I bet people will still moan about the two draws. some of our so-called fans can’t help themsleves…..

  8. kelsey says:


    that video/photo has an uncanny resemblence to me 🙂

  9. Mr Mdi89 – yes, so far, Chambers has played very well, but should a teenager be put in at the deep end so quickly ?

    I assumed he would be 4th choice but if the manager sees him as first call when Kos/BFG are out then I could be wrong there.

    We need a fourth CB purely for rotations sake so we don’t run players into the ground as we have a lot of fixtures to play this season.

    I didn’t like the fact Wenger was talking about fatigue 3 weeks into the season.

  10. kelsey says:

    Oh chary

    you are pinching all my punch lines 🙂

  11. fatgingergooner says:

    Falcao to United!

  12. chas says:

    Cheers, LB, an excellent summary of yesterday’s game.

    I thought you would go more into the fact that without Jack we had no link between Flamini and Cazorla.
    Was Rambo meant to be playing in the Wilshere position as Santi was playing in his position?
    In the end we ended up with 3 players, Rambo, Santi and Mesut playing in the hole and no link up in midfield.

    Ideas for posts…….
    Can Mesut and Santi play in the same team together?
    Can Rambo and Santi play in the same team together?
    Can Rambo and Mesut play in the same team together?

    At one point we were looking down at an Arsenal formation of 5-5.
    There was a line of 5 defenders inc Flamini and…..
    a line of 5 attackers with Rambo wide right and Santi auxiliary centre forward.
    Utter Bollix.

  13. chas says:

  14. chas says:

    There you go, Micky.
    Don’t say I’m not joining in with the “fun”. 🙂

  15. kelsey says:

    I sense a Moses like parting of the Red SEA in other words an ever increasing divide amongst the fan base.

    If I was a betting man I would take a punt on the Greek with two hundred letters to his name, joining us.

  16. mickydidit89 says:


    Don’t see age as an issue. In fact I reckon he’ll oust Mert before the end of the season as 1st choice.

    Anyway, you know how I hate talking about the defence, it is goals we are short on, not goals conceded.

  17. Rasp says:

    Terrific report LB, I agree with your conclusions.

    I’m an Ozil fan, but he hasn’t been doing it for some time now. I wonder if he’d have stayed on the pitch if he’d cost us £4m instead of £40m. I think the problem is in his head, we need to find a way of getting the best out of him, but for the time being, he wouldn’t be in my starting eleven.

    My main point is our predictability and continued failure to come close to finding a midfield combination that works. This isn’t a new point, but I think the problem is that we have too many identikit midfielders most of whom are not playing in the position that enables them to perform to their best.

    I’d go further and say that our relentless pursuit of a fluid midfield populated by small, technically gifted mobile players is a red herring. How many playmakers does a team need? Who is/are our playmaker/s? Out of the current selection, how many would prefer to play centrally?

    As usual, I think we are guilty of overcomplicating the game. I hate to say it but Fabregas’ simple but decisive through ball for the chavs first goal was an example of what I mean. Our 70% possession is 90% ineffective and takes place in areas where we can’t hurt the opposition.
    Besiktas’ big guy in their midfield was superb (black guy, American I think) . He pulled the strings and they had genuine wide players to capitalise on his passing.

    Do our midfielders really understand their roles? Are we affording them too much freedom? Should they not be given clear instructions and areas in which to function?

  18. chas says:

  19. mickydidit89 says:


    I genuinely don’t think Arsene has the first idea what’s going on with his formations and stuff.

    Players look confused and baffled and they never play the same formation twice.

  20. You may be right about that Mdi89, it’s just I always feel youngsters need a bit of nurturing before they are treated like battle hardened veterans.

    Sorry again Kelsey, I’ve not peeped at your post post.

    I can’t anyway as, like Mdi89, I’ve had the keys to the AA office taken away from me. 😦

    I must have been a bad boy.

  21. Rasp says:

    One last point. I said yesterday we need to start recruiting a different type of player – starting with Carvalho, Chambers has been brilliant but we must not rely on him as 3rd choice CB so a central defender (or one who can also play HM) is now a priority.

    We were never going to get Falcao, but maybe Boney would be worth a punt?

  22. chas says:

  23. mickydidit89 says:


    Agree with every word of that

  24. Proper Supporter says:

    Falcao to United tells us nothing about the ambition of Arsenal….what a stupid statement.

  25. Rasp says:

    Hi chary, we haven’t taken your keys away – its another stupid WordPress problem. We’ll upgrade your status so you can get behind the scenes again.

  26. chas says:

    100% agree, Proper.

  27. Thanks for the post LB… I’m disappointed there’s not a little photo of some FOOD 🙂

    Fail-cow has always been earmarked for Real Madrid… I can’t foresee him going anywhere else.

    Sanogo and Wengers love fest for him is baffling. Why Campbell isn’t being given a chance is one of lifes mysteries.

  28. Rasp says:

    Sorry chas, I’ve just read your earlier comment and seen that I echoed many of the points you have already made.

    Proper supporter, where did you read ‘Falcao to United tells us nothing about the ambition of Arsenal’?

  29. Only kidding Raspers, I guessed it was a wordpress thing as there’s been upgrades on it lately.

    Kinda helped with the bad boy image though for a while, ha ha.

  30. kelsey says:

    Campbell is in the soup,NB 🙂

  31. kelsey says:


    I have the same issue with WordPress and it’s getting worse.

  32. Rasp says:

    Ok thanks Kelsey, peaches is working on it and hopes to get you all back in the driving seat ASAP.

  33. Morning again everyone

    I’ve added kelsey’s post to LB’s so if you’d like to refresh your page you can read his too.

    Thanks, sorry for the delay.

  34. kelsey says:

    I have added my thoughts to LB’s post as by tomorrow we might be discussing the events of today, and I and many others would be repeating themselves.

  35. Bradley says:

    Well that report imo isn’t totally true.,the fact leicester had a game plan that worked and was unlucky not to take all 3 points. As for saying leicester is a small time club will make your comment wrong.we are the biggest and most financially stable we have ever been.we have a plan to stay in the premiere league and as for gaining 2 points from 2 top 5 teams says it all really.ulloa got man of the match aswell so make an honest report next time

  36. SAGunner says:

    If we all knew “as a certainty” that Leicester would park the bus – I can only say that Wenger is a stupid Tit – he clearly did not know as he did not have a plan in place to break them down! Let me just add that there is no way that we shall win anything this season, not even the Wenger trophy!!! 4th in the BPL. He is already grovelling in the inferior league bargain basements for players, now I see Defoe is on the screen – When the good players were available they were all too Expensive – I believe that many of these guys will simply not play for Arsenal as the club has a pig headed manager that will derail their chances of winning any trophies – To this end he has made a good start – As he says, Arsenal does not need another striker. Wenger you old tit – get with it – this is the 2014, not 1990. Players that you buy for 4 or 5 million are not good enough for the BPL. Who cost us the Leicester Goal? – Mert – with Kos incapacitated due to being dazed by a head injury he was unable to save the lanky slow mans bacon this time – as he has so many time before – Arsenal – catch a wake up if you want to win – as things stand now there are some more big hidings waiting for Arsenal to be gifted to them by the Man Cities and Chelseas AND Liverpools of this world., and probably Tottenham also. It will be worse than last season, as we will lose to a few of the smaller clubs also… Happy landing!

  37. Kelsey, everything you said, unsurprisingly, mirrors my thoughts to varying degrees although I will say we are only 3 league games in and a heck of a lot can happen in the remaining 35 league games.

    So yes there is a long way to go and based on what we have seen so far, admittedly not much, it doesn’t look good.

    A friend of mine who was at the game yesterday told me the fans turned on Wenger and were disgruntled to say the least.

  38. kelsey says:


    Read both accounts.We fans all see things differently and generally we are described as a conservative blog.

    Leicester had a game plan and deserved to win.

    We knew beforehand that your pace on the wings would be a threat.

    I also thought Morgan had an excellent game in defence.

  39. Bradley, if you don’t like a match report on an Arsenal blog stick to your own clubs blogs.

  40. RC78 says:

    OK – Man Utd manages to get Di Maria and now Falcao without playing Champions League football and having a horrendous start to the season! While Di Maria was paid up front, Falcao is there on loan…Why did we miss out on him? He is a lethal striker and now he will be with RVP and Rooney there, which means that Hernandez or Wellbeck will be allowed to leave. Hotspuds have made an offer for Wellbeck and I would rather see this young England lad join us…

    We still need a DM and a striker and I am really hoping for some good news today…If we manage to get Khedira (unlikely since Xabi Alonso went to Bayern – again, why did we not budget for him?) or Bender (but most likely we will get Tiote) and a striker (Wellbeck? Reuss?), then we will be fine…

    Come on AW and come on Gunners! Sanogo is still, unfortunately, more of a miss than a hit…

  41. RC78 says:

    By the way, Chambers and Sanchez are proving to be decent recruits so far…Let us hope it continues 🙂

  42. kelsey says:

    Maybe some players just don’t want to play under Wenger

  43. Rasp says:

    Schlupp looked very decent for Leicester yesterday. Our players were bouncing off of him, but he had skills to add to his pace and power.

  44. RC78 says:

    and Micah Richards to Fiorentina…Again, why did we not budge for him?

  45. Rasp says:

    I don’t think Richards is of the required quality, he’s a gooner I know but we already have better options unless you think he could be converted to a CB?

  46. Raspers, that’s the trouble, our under sized mid field has no fear factor.

  47. The Cockie Monster says:

    To answer LB`s headline…….I haven`t thought we were going to win the league since before Eduardo got injured !.

    If Wenger or anyone else talks about fatigue after just 3 league games I will tenderise my Hampton with a steak mallet !……………although you can talk fatigue about Ozil, as this man can get fatigued by opening a bag of Walkers Crisps !.

    It`s obvious to me where Wenger is going in chas`s airport photo !…….take your pick of any off-shore tax havens to stash the transfer monies !.

  48. The Cockie Monster says:

    So Kelsey….on the Kelsometer, how much is our net spending now that Miguel has gone to Norwich for £1.5M ?.

  49. Regarding my 10:38am

    I’ve clearly fallen behind with the transfer news… Fail-cow to Man Utd.

  50. Eddie says:

    Two posts in one day!! Lovely, my afternoon is booked now 🙂

  51. Eddie says:

    LB – Kels is right, pork. They are best served as snacks with a shot of vodka

    EVERYBLOODYBODY thinks that we need a CF. There is only one man who disagrees.

  52. RC78 says:

    Rasp – Yes, Micah Richards as cover for CB…

  53. That airport picture is apparently Wenger going off to a charity match in Rome,

  54. Rasp says:

    Richards at CB could work, I haven’t seen enough of him to make a judgement, but he’s strong and reasonably quick, I have no idea how well he reads the game.

  55. Rasp says:

    Chary, AW doesn’t need to go anywhere to sign a player. His part should have been done weeks ago in terms of identifying his targets. However, I’d like to think that after yesterday’s performance and in light of the injury to Giroud, he may have upped his ‘must have’ coefficient 😛

  56. The Cockie Monster says:

    I dont want to give Arsene a hard time and disrespect him. Wenger is a very intelligent man and any intelligent person would see the glaring inadequacies in our squad and any intelligent person with funds to do so would buy players in a transfer window !. So I expect by 11pm tonight that Mr Wenger would have bought at least one SQ player. If he however doesn`t buy any SQ players by 11pm tonight, then he would have gone from what I thought was a smart intelligent person to a……………………………………………..http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/9/2012/324×324/45902.jpg

  57. Rasp says:

    I know its illogical, but I’ll be bloody fuming if manu pip us to getting Carvalho. They got falcao because they agreed to his outrageous wage demands, we should dig deep to bring Carvalho in.

  58. But going there on transfer deadline day seems like bad planning to me Raspers.

    Anyway we’ll know for sure in 11 and a half hours how good that decision was.

  59. arnie says:

    Thank you LB, thank you Kelsey. 🙂

    I cannot bring myself to read the post and comments. I suspect a lot of vitriol. And anguish. And I disagree. So, laters.

    However, here is my tuppence worth.

    1. We are already seeing progress this year. Proof? Charity Shield.

    2. We are well on our way to winning the CL. We have as much chance as anyone else. Come on, prove me wrong.

    3. Start of the League could be better, but could be worse as well. Last year we lost 1-3 to Villa on Day 1. We are unbeaten so far this season. As good as the minnows so far, led by Shitty. But not as good as the Chavs. That is OK.

    4. I still like our nifty passing in the middle of the pitch. And bemoan our lack of penetration. But we have scored goals. 5 in 3 games. That is better than what is required for a perpetual “1-0 to the Arsenal”. OK by me.

    5. But, we have conceded 4. Including a goal to Leicester. No matter what anyone here tells me, this is our main problem. Leaking goals. I would not mind a DM. But more importantly, our back line needs to be tightened. Bouldie, where is Bouldie?

    6. Now, we have the intl break to regroup. Hopefully, Theo and Arteta back, Kos recovered, Calum gaining some experience, dare I say Diaby back as well. Good timing. Cannot complain.

    OK, that is me. COYG. 🙂

  60. Rasp says:

    I agree its bad PR Chary but we know that AW doesn’t worry about things like that and in reality, its Ivan who we need to be in attendance.

  61. chas says:

    Cheers, kelsey.
    I really don’t think Leicester deserved to win the game but agree that we didn’t.

    “Crystals can open a hairline crack into a canyon” 🙂

  62. mickydidit89 says:


    I’ve never had the keys to the office,

    If I did, I would have banned everybody 🙂

  63. arnie says:
  64. I’m sure you said somewhere you said you;d had them confiscated from you Mdi89, about 3 or 4 weeks ago I think..

    Could be wrong.

    I’d ban all dog owners if I could. filthy things, all they do is bark and poop.

  65. Rasp says:

    Hi arnie, you surprise me!

    “I cannot bring myself to read the post and comments. I suspect a lot of vitriol. And anguish. And I disagree”

    Actually there has not been a lot of vitriol, just an attempt to understand what is happening. Like you I often choose to go into ‘lock down mode’, I couldn’t listen to the radio this morning and MotD was definitely out, but as always, I’ve learnt something after having read the thoughts of others.

  66. chas says:

    Your earlier comment actually made sense which was more than mine did.

    I thought your default state as regards supporting Arsenal was ‘bloody fuming’. 🙂

    Have we even bid for Carvalho?

  67. Rasp says:

    Do the dog owners bark and poop too? – I thought it was only the dogs 😆

  68. chas says:

    Haha, I assumed that photo of Wenger in the airport was from years ago and posted on twatter just to wind everyone up.
    I didn’t think anyone would actually try to work out where he was going. 🙂

  69. Rasp says:

    Hi chas,

    Who knows whether we’ve bid for Carvalho? We’ve bid for everyone and anyone depending on which meeja outlet you care to choose. I just think he’s the sort of player we really need. He will greatly improve our defending whilst speeding up the transition from defence into attack.

  70. chas says:

    Hahahaha, dog owners barking and pooping everywhere.
    Where’s Evonne?

  71. arnie says:

    Rasp, I will read, and it will take time. Lots of comments, and two mega posts for the price of one! But before that I wanted to get my initial thoughts off my chest.

    Everyone deserves a “lock down mode” once in a while. Especially on transfer deadline day. 😛

    Well, at least you did not find the “tuppence worth” so revolting. 🙂

  72. RA says:

    The LB man has done it again! He made me think (not for the first time) that the author was the Rock, especially the – more disjointed than a chicken after Sunday lunch – line. 🙂

    Excellently written, and the content was sound too.

  73. chas says:

    I know you rate him it was just the phrase you used about United ‘pipping’ us to getting Carvalho.

    It reminded me of a trick the journalists use as in ‘missing out’ on so-and-so and being ‘shunned’ by whatjamacallit when we haven’t even been interested in the player. That was all.

  74. RA says:


    I do not always understand your logic, which is probably more a reflection on my lack of comprehension, but you wrote a concise report (well apart from the repeated – ‘at this moment in time’ – phrase, which confused me again 🙂 ) and your comments were well founded. 🙂

  75. chas says:

  76. Rasp says:

    Thanks chas, I get that. It appears that the more believable publications are tipping manu to sign Carvalho, but as you say, we’ll know by 11 this evening and then, thank god, the torture will be over until January at least.

  77. chas says:

    Podolski is happy to be back with The Mannschaft.
    Aren’t we all?

  78. Had to laugh at this on twatter “So Man Utd have replaced Van Persie before Arsenal have”.

  79. mickydidit89 says:


    Nope, never had the keys.

    I snuck in once with Kelsey, but because I did no work and just flew my little radio control helicopter around the office for the whole day, and annoyed him by trying to land on his head, he reported me.

  80. Ha Ha Mdi89 – so no access to the Executive wash room either then ?

  81. RC78 says:

    If he wants to snap up Candreva and Klose from Lazio, it would not be a bad idea :-p

    More news from Man Utd as Chicharito Hernandez will join Real Madrid on loan, meaning that Wellbeck will not be allowed to leave Utd at all or only be allowed to move on a permanent transfer…

    Chelsea: Costa, Rémy, Schurrle
    City: Aguero, Negredo, Dzeko, Jovetic
    Liverpool: Balotelli, Sterling, Sturridge, Lambert
    Man Utd: RVP, Rooney, Falcao, Wellbeck
    Arsenal: Giroud, Podolski, Campbell, Walcott, Sanogo

  82. RA says:

    Hi Rasper,

    You are fully back today with your comments fully loaded and blasting away, and dare I say it, try as I might, I cannot find a single thing to disagree with you about, and your comment about Schlupp reflects what I said yesterday. It is all well and good having loads of small gifted midfielders, but we also need a leavening of big, physical players too, just like …… well everyone else!

    It is much easier, in my case, to rationalise an occasional disappointment with known or expected behavioural trends, leading to an expected consistency in how Mr Wenger behaves during the Transfer Window.

    However, we had our aspirations tweaked with his early purchase of Sanchez, Debuchy and Chambers, with the, at least implied, promise that more was to come – especially the replacement of Vermaelen – and yet here we are, back in the good old, bad old days of the last day of the window, with the same old laments – we will only buy if it improves the squad, we are trying but time is running out, I do not think buying a CF/HM/CB is the solution to … xxx. (you pick your favourite.

    I was hoping the desperate trolley dash on the last day of the window was a thing of the past but apparently not.

  83. chary – what can’t you do on the blog that you could do before?

  84. Rasp says:

    Hi Redders …. ditto 😛

    Peaches, do you have Reus in your back pocket? Is that why you’re offering him to us? 😆

  85. Rasp says:

    Micky in, Micky in ……. I vote Micky gets the keys to the executive locker room

  86. LB says:

    A good read Kelsey thanks for that.

    I centred the text so it wasn’t all crowded to the left.

  87. Peachy, edit my own comments and go onto the new posts page.

    But it’s no biggy as except for the last week or so I can’t blog much daytime anymore.

    Annoying I have to log in to word press every time I post a comment and I suspect I go into moderation sometimes as the comments don’t always show straight away like they used to.

  88. Arsene Wenger as he tried to stop the Falcao transfer to Man Utd and get a bid in:


  89. arnie says:

    Now that I have read the posts and all comments. Great posts, LB and Kelsey. Differing outlooks, but nice insights. Excellent discussion as well. 🙂

    And I take back my comment about “vitriol”. Apols. It must have been the vinegar in my food! 😛

  90. Another good one:

    “Have I had breakfast yet? Look, every time you are hungry, the solution is not always to eat something”

  91. Rasp says:

    This article quoting Balague suggests we are not in for a striker but a DM who can play CB …. believe it if you will 😕


  92. Norfolk Gooner says:

    I’ve just read the two posts, well done to both LB and Kelsey for their muted opinions.

    Despite all our possession and goal attempts we never really looked like getting more than Alexis’ neat finish.

    Most attempts were from outside the box after sluggish build-ups which allowed the Fox’s defence ample time to amble back into position.

    Virtually no attempts were made to carry the ball deep into their penalty area, just tippy tappy on the fringes.

    Unless something changes, a wonderful, committed player like Alexis is going to drop into same comfort zone as the rest of our mid-fielders.

  93. LB says:

    Good comment Norfolk

    I fear you could be right.

  94. arnie says:

    Norfolk. “comfort zone” indeed! 🙂

  95. arnie says:

    😦 not 🙂

  96. GoonerB says:

    Thanks LB and Kelsey. I find myself largely agreeing with Kelsey’s, Chary’s, and Rasp’s viewpoints. Having not been on as regularly recently I haven’t put across my concerns about how AW is acting currently but they haven’t changed for a few weeks now so nothing I say is a knee-jerk reaction which is often the accusation with negativity after a bad game.

    I really hope that AW has a couple of serious things up his sleeve today. Even if he does why does it always have to be last minute? Has it cost us points already? I am expecting this years EPL champions to have a high point tally and yesterday I feel we dropped 2 vital points, so it could already be one small nail in the coffin of our title challenge. Also could it be that selling clubs will have seen our recent struggles and realise we need certain players that they can hold us over a barrel for?

    AW started the summers business well but I feel he is now guilty of not dotting I’s and crossing T’s. You can buy the most expensive right football boot out there but if you don’t get the left one you will not function well. I know there are some who have more complete faith than me but I am still a far more tolerant fan than many of the others. Having worked well to get the fans back on side and excited again I can’t see them being tolerant for very long if the perceived weaknesses in the side are not dealt with and it starts to become apparant and then cost us through the season. I worry that what started as great anticipation and optimism will soon descend back into a poisonous atmosphere.

    I agree with those that feel we need another CB, and the need for an upgrade in the DM position was largely accepted as being necessary last season, and yet here we are on the last day of the TW with no additions to these areas.

    What has become even more worrying is the apparant need for a top striker. Even last year myself and many thought that we needed another top class striker either in addition to or as a slight improvement on Ollie. It speaks volumes now how reliant we looked on him last week at Everton to the point that he is now almost the sole answer rather than one of our options or second best option, and now he is injured for the rest of the year.

    I always personally thought it was too much to expect Sanchez to come in and slot into that role immediately, no matter how good he is or how much he cost. Not only is he in a new league,which famously requires a greater adaptation period than other leagues, but also we are in essence converting him from an attacking midfielder / wide player into a striker. Aside from a few flirtations playing the role he has spent the better part of his career as an ACM or attacking wide player. A new league and a new position from the word go?

    Last year I felt Sanogo was a good couple of years away from first team standard and nothing has changed my mind. He should be playing for the under 21’s or be on loan at a certain club IMO. I don’t think he is any further on than either Afobe or Akpom and they don’t anywhere near the first team. I don’t quite understand why Sanogo is getting such favourable playing time over his peers. If he is our fall back option then it worries me and also I think could harm him. The crowd will soon start to groan when he does something wrong if he is our main option. I can see his promise and attributes. He is a handful but then so are Andy Carrol and Peter Crouch.

    Of the others I think you can look at them all collectively. AW said we are not striker short. Being pedantic I would say that we are not forward short or attacking player short but we must surely be considered striker short. The rest are all attacking wide players like Sanchez is. Can we actually classify any of them as being proven strikers. All of Walcott, Podolski and Campbell fit that bracket for me. In the case of the former 2 if AW considers them striker options then why have we not seen them play the role regularly till now.

    Despite the quality of our attacking players individually there is something very wrong with our attacking balance. To me we have collected too many similar players so we don’t get the balance. If we get any more attacking wide players / ACM’s I think I will cry. It has become a pet hate of mine for us to be linked with any player described as “being able to play anywhere across the attacking area, even possibly as a striker”. Can’t we just get someone that is a striker?

    I feel collectively that all of Ramsey, Ozil and Cazorla are not pacy enough when played together behind a striker. We need 2 pacy goal-scoring wide players like Bayern have in Robben and Ribery playing off the striker, then the player in the hole has more passing options ahead of him. None of these 3 players would replace Robben or Ribery in these positions yet we are often playing them in these positions.

    I hope AW either pulls a couple of rabbits out of the bag today or that I am entirely wrong and Sanogo or Sanchez will become immediately top notch strikers and drive us onto glory this year. I am not too sure the majority of fans will accept this being another transition season.

  97. The BBC think we’ve done our business, incoming wise, for transfers:

    “Barring a late surprise, Arsenal are highly unlikely to make any signings before the transfer window closes. They remain in a number of conversations as they search for a back-up central defender and a holding midfielder, but currently it looks like nobody will be arriving at Emirates Stadium. So that also means no new striker despite the absence of Olivier Giroud until the new year through injury….. There could be a couple of squad players leaving the club before the 11pm deadline.”


  98. GoonerB says:

    ps, sorry about the length of it but I can’t get back on till later so thought I would vent my spleen all in one go.

  99. GoonerB says:

    Just before I go off for a bit I would like to say that I fully admire the likes of GN5 and Terry Mancini. I am expecting Terry to pop up at some point and tell us he is not worried and it is all part of Arsene’s big plan which I love to hear. The problem is that most fans will not see it this way so for those of us that want Arsene around and taking us to more silverware I feel we should be more concerned than any of the others with his current behaviour. If it all goes wrong this season through what is perceived as getting it horribly wrong then I can’t see him lasting anyway once many of the fans get their backs up.

    All my opinions will be subject to change if We end the day with Reus, Carvallho and another CB.

  100. I would be very shocked if we didnt at least get a CB!

  101. 26may1989 says:

    Bloody hate transfer deadline day, so many lies being told, and the club never quite doing enough – they played a blinder early in the window, but now replacing Vermaelen and getting cover for Giroud has made it the usual angst-fest.

    Still, I liked this piece by Matthew Engel in the FT, especially the dry comments about the retail business being less predictable and more sporting than football:

    Is Manchester United the new Tesco? Over time trophies are a direct function of expenditure

    Take a rock-solid British company: a market leader at home for years, in which time it has achieved increasing penetration across the world. Its recent success has been achieved under the leadership of one man, an up-by-his-bootstraps dominant boss who retired garlanded with honours, a knighthood included.

    This heroic figure was succeeded by a protégé-cum-acolyte, who rapidly discovered he had in fact been handed a poisoned chalice, which may or may not have been obvious to his predecessor. He had to face competition from lavishly-backed upstart rivals, with business models the giant was ill-equipped to emulate.

    The new man was scapegoated in double-quick time to be replaced by a highly-regarded outsider. The bad news and reputational damage show no sign of stopping. Yet another quick sacking is unthinkable.

    Tesco. And also Manchester United. For Sir Terry Leahy read Sir Alex Ferguson. For Philip Clarke read David Moyes. For Aldi and Lidl read Manchester City and Chelsea. And so on. There are differences of course. There is an element of sporting uncertainty about retailing since changing public tastes are impossible to anticipate accurately.

    Success in the English Premier League is much more transactional. You cannot exactly buy the title, but over time trophies are a direct function of expenditure. And United, with the Glazer family’s debts to service, are at an obvious disadvantage compared with their chief rivals: the Roman empire, aka Chelsea, and the footballing wing of the Abu Dhabi government, aka Manchester City.

    City had a rare bad day on Saturday, leaving Chelsea as odds-on favourites – in August! – to win a competition that does not conclude until late May. United have become 20-1 shots.

    Their last week has been an eventful one. On Tuesday they lost 4-0 to Milton Keynes Dons, a third-class team from a jumped-up town, in a nothing-much competition, the League Cup – but a match for the ages in the Chamber of Horrors section of the Old Trafford Museum. United did not field their first-choice line-up but the significance was not in the personnel involved but in the obvious organisational chaos. On Saturday they struggled to a 0-0 League draw with promoted Burnley.

    That bleak Tuesday the club also paid a British record £59.7m to acquire the Argentine winger Ángel di Maria from Real Madrid, said to be more than Burnley have spent on players in their entire history. The Archangel di Gabriel might have been a more helpful signing. Di Maria, who made clear he had no desire to leave Madrid, does not solve any of their most immediate problems, which are in defence. It is assumed that United will have to do something about this between now and the autumn transfer deadline, which happens to be on Monday night. Panic buying is never good business.

    United’s new leader, the former Holland manager Louis van Gaal, has been trying to look unperturbed whenever he is in camera-shot, and attempting to bring Dutch rationality into the conversation. “I am not shocked,” he insisted after the Milton Keynes debacle. “A new team is not built in one month.” Rationality? In the Premier League? The poor innocent.

    Di Maria did not last the full 90 minutes against Burnley but made some encouraging contributions to a strategy that mainly involved a frazzled defence belting the ball upfield as fast as possible. His team nearly went behind to Burnley in the opening minutes and although, as the game wore on, they became increasingly dominant there was little indication of United scoring the late winner that was so characteristic of the Ferguson era.

    United will spend the next fortnight, when there is a break for international football, winless and close to the relegation zone. They will not stay there. It is hard to imagine them being champions but I am rather tempted by the odds-against now available about finishing in the top four. The club has to fund van Gaal’s ambitions; this business allows no alternative.

    The supermarket game? Don’t ask me to comment on something as chancy as that.

  102. Shard says:

    I agree almost completely with the LB version of events. Kelsey as always, is a lost cause:) (only kidding Kelsey)

    I went into ‘lockdown’ mode like arnie following the draw yesterday. More than the result, I was very disappointed and upset by the performance. It seemed to me like the concentration and focus was lacking. Like the players felt that the tough part of the week had been done against Besiktas and now they only had to turn up to win. When they realised they were in a real fight, they couldn’t lift themselves.

    Not because of the result yesterday, and I’m not one to cry myself hoarse over transfers, but it would be almost unthinkable if we don’t sign at least one, if not 2 or 3 players before the transfer window closes. A defender is essential. A DM would be great,(both positions can be combined) and an attacker would be nice. Again, like arnie, I think our problems are more at the back (and midfield) than in attack, which will get better in time.

    But the angst over who someone else signs in the transfer window just annoys me. I don’t care who ManU sign, who Chelsea sign, who City sign. I care about the players we have, and whether we can address the shortcomings in our squad adequately. Regardless, I will just continue supporting and believing in the players we do have. Even if sometimes, like yesterday, they let me down (how presumptuous of me, but that’s how I feel)

  103. wally says:

    To have signed Sanchez and brought on Campbell and continue to play with a centre forward of the calibre we have is simply a waste. We have great speed and quickness and to play at the plodding pace we do is confounding. Cite, Everton, ‘pool and chelsea are all way more dynamic in attack then us. Which begs the question.
    We’d have been better off buying Mandzukic if we’re going to continue to play with a post up top.
    As for Oz his contributions come from servicing people who attack the goal, not little ticka tak passing sideways. And as long as we play around the edge of the box against massed defences we won’t see his best will we.


    Thanks for the posts guys

    I know it can be frustrating watching this current Arsenal side.Lightweight passaholics running into brick walls and then getting roughed up by bigger boys is not a good look

    However, I still believe we will win the title this season, though accept it will be close.

    Now, the reality is that last season we were not to far away. I feel Arsenes plan is to improve on prior years results by beating the better sides at home

    Statistically speaking the league was lost at the Grove, namely our inability to beat City/Chelsea/Utd

    The arrival of Sanchez and improvement in our younger players should do the trick, starting with City in a couple of weeks.

    We have to accept our failings, no team is perfect. The question is, can Arsenes philosophy and the players he has assembled to carry it out good enough to win the title? I think it is.

    Dont be surprised to get some horrible beatings again this year but still win the title

    Our opponents are not supermen, far from it. Chelsea let three goals in at Goodison and were lucky to beat Leicester at home whilst City were busy losing to Stoke.

    Lets beat the bigger clubs at home and go and win the league.

  105. LB says:


    That is such a good comment it really should have been and certainly would have been appreciated as a headline post during the Interlull nightmare.

  106. mickydidit89 says:


    Transplant has drastically lowered expectations from:

    “We will win The League”

    to the appalling state of:

    “I still believe we will win the title this season, though accept it will be close”

  107. 26may1989 says:

    Wish it were mine, LB, but the work’s all Matthew Engel’s – I should have made that clearer!

    But I will attempt to put in a comment for the Interlull.

    Have we signed anyone yet? No, thought not……….

  108. kelsey says:

    Dear Terry

    I admire your optimism and you have said it yourself

    “Now, the reality is that last season we were not to far away” and that is exactly the point, as that is were we should be moving on and upwards from there.In other words the benchmark.

    We haven’t been convincing in any of our PL games or CL qualifiers.

    Of course injuries are always our problem but it is far too competitive a league to experiment with players like Sanogo and Campbell who have never scored a competitive goal for us and expect Sanchez to adjust immediately. .

    I looked at the players faces yesterday as they came off,they looked bemused on the whole, a team who in parts this season look like they have never played together as a unit.

    This shouldn’t be the case and IMO it maybe a lot harder this season to maintain a top four place unless there is a huge uplift in performances.

    Apart from not having at least two or three players who can score vital goals, we are overloaded with a number of similar players in midfield who though gifted aren’t particularly physically strong and our defence has already been alarmingly breached on several occasions and we are lucky not to have conceded even more.

    So it’s not just one issue it’s a question of the balance of the whole team that looks decidedly wrong and who does one blame for that.

    I agree that the title could well be won by any team losing 4,5 or even 6 games as it is fairly open and Wenger being an intelligent man knows that or should know that and could have planned a lot better with the extra money available this year.

    I don’t think CL football is the main issue as it would take a miracle for us to win it this year or the near future.

    We can judge after the next few games which will be a real test but on the whole I am disappointed with our general play over these opening games.

  109. mickydidit89 says:

    I’m keeping my one good eye firmly on the Sky Odds.

    Still 5:4 Cavani to Arsenal

    So…keep smiling


    hahaha, yes Micky

    But why cant we win the league? The thing about Arsene is that not only is he a great football coach he is also a statistician.

    Our away form per points picked up is comparable if not better than our rivals and I see now reason why we should not remain hard to beat and win the majority of our away games this year.

    Last year we failed to beat the bigger clubs at home, ultimately costing us the league.

    We can win those games this year. Theres more depth and experience to the side now.

    I dont buy the doom and negativity. We are closer now than we have been for a long time and I for one believe we will win it.

  111. VCC says:

    TMHT……….the men with white coats will arrive in Bounds Green at 16:00…can you have clean pyjamas and a soft pair of slippers to take with you,

    I’ll try and visit at week ends…;-) do you like grapes?


    I understand your reservations Kelsey.

    Despite not losing, we have not made convincing start.

    In football it dosnt take much to change a teams fortunes. We are still in the phase of finding our feet but once we do I see a very good side there.

    I dont agree with you that Arsenes lost it. He is trying to win the league by overloading the side with technique, and though at times it will go horribly wrong, it boils down to how many points you get at the end.

    Despite what people may think, in the last eighteen months it has proven to be a winning formula against the lesser sides. So much so it virtually secures top four on its own, so the next step is to beat the bigger boys at home.


    hahaha, thanks for the heads up Vics

    This time I have a little surprise for them. A machine gun that fires tranquilliser pellets.

    Its there turn to sing “Scarborough Fair”, and shout “Weres Barry Mcguigan?”. hahaha

  114. Norfolk Gooner says:

    It’s been said that Wenger doesn’t know his best starting eleven, that he is still experimenting to find the right combination. Indeed he is still working out his preferred formation. His other mantra has always been “we will only buy a player who is better than those we already have”.

    Now at home I have a garden, it is limited in size and I don’t have an unlimited budget. When between us my wife and I decide we need to upgrade some aspect of the garden we first look at what needs replacing, what the new plant will have around it and how it will fit into the general plan.

    At this point we look around the local garden centres, nurseries, and examine catalogues. When we are sure of what we want we go and buy it. What we buy rarely, if ever, clashes with the existing plants and never looks out of place among them.

    We would never buy a plant that looks great in a Mediterranean garden but would be a misfit in our Norfolk plot.

    I’m sure the same applies to you all, in your everyday lives. Whether you’re buying a new item of furniture, a new pet for the children or, in some cases a new syrup. You decide what you want, how it will fit in, or on, and can you afford it.

    Why is it different in football? We bought a very good player last year, but did Mesut Ozil fit in? Or were we to build the team around him? Does he look as though he’s bedded in? Or does he need more time to take root?

    This year we’ve bought an even more exotic player, Alexis Sanchez, but does Wenger know where to play him? One game on the left, one game in mid-field, one game as a central striker, are we again to re-build the team around him? We did it with Fabregas, we did it with van Persie and when they left, we were left with a hole in the flower bed and a confusion in the minds of their erstwhile team-mates.

    It’s surely time that Wenger decided on a formation, a style of play, put the players in their positions and stuck with it.

    We actually have quite a nice garden now, apart from the mole damage, we had a plan and we have largely kept to it. Naturally there has been some wastage, but very few outright disasters..

  115. fatgingergooner says:

    not even a decent rumour! rather worrying.

    We had at least heard about a possible loan was Kallstrom came in January.

    We are already a man down from last season in defence as we have lost Jenks, Verm and Sagna and only brought in Chambers and Debuchy. Not to mention whats going on in our attacking line up at the moment.

    Looks like my wish of seeing some of the youth players stepping up is going to have to happen sooner rather than later!!!

  116. Eddie says:

    forget Cavani, Falcao and REmi. We have Jermaine Defoe !!!!!!!!!!

  117. fatgingergooner says:


    Interesting stuff. I think there is an argument that the last 6 months has actually shown us that our team is built around Walcott and his pace. That is currently what is missing from our ‘garden’ and when he returns maybe then Wenger will put into place the plan he has for Ozil and Sanchez.

    Just a theory.


    What a great guy Arsene is. Apparently he has flown to Rome to officiate a friendly in the name of charity

    Not only is that splendid, its also brave. If we buy nobody he knows his critics will round on him “The bastard was doing somethink for ill children when he should have been buying”

    Contrast that to the likes of Morinio, who on deadline day is “Look Remi, you signer for me no problem, lots of dollars. You want women, we caner arrange it, everything is easy. The boss Roman, he fancy you. You liker cocaine Remi?”

    I know who I want managing our great club.

    Time to get behind the manager

  119. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Eddie, don’t laugh, it could happen. Seriously I’d take him in preference to Sanogo at the moment, at least he knows where the goal is.

  120. Norfolk Gooner says:

    But Terry, prising Moaniho away from the Chavs will be really dificult. I think we must stick with Wenger for the time being. 😀

  121. GunnerN5 says:

    Well Terry we seem to be in the minority of supporters. Even though it was obvious to all that we lacked a penetrating player yesterday all is not doom and gloom.

    Some weeks ago I wrote a post titled “Where will Arsenal’s goals come from?” Given the unforeseen injury to Giroud that has become a more critical question. AW feels that he has enough striking power in his squad and I am more than happy to take his word as he sees all of his players every day in training and knows their attributes better than anyone else. But I’m still nervous.

    As I’ve said on many an occasion I usually stay away from blogging after we lose or have an iffy result as it brings out the “experts” with all of their opinions and of course their uncanny ability to read between the lines.

    We are unbeaten after 3 PL games, qualified for the group stages of the CL, won the Charity shield and yet the doomers are still unhappy.

    Some weeks back I commented how tough a start we had to the season with 6 games in 21 days – but with the 6 games now played we have a record of W3, D3, L0, GF9, GA 4. GD+5

    Would the heel is wrong with that record – oh I know we didn’t play every minute of every game up to the doomers expectation’s.

  122. arnie says:

    GN5. 🙂 Just to prove I am EAR amidst the harakiri! 😛

  123. Eddie says:

    NG – I know it can happen. I actually like Defoe, he can be lethal and for 1 season deal could do us a favour. We will just have to conveniently forget his dubious past

    Terry – I am actually quite shocked that Wenger is attending some friendly. Unless ‘something’ is a done and dusted deal, he should be here. the only other optioin is that we are not even trying to buy


    Norfolk hahaha, Dont think theres any choice though. Arsenes going no were.


    True my friend. Yes, there’s concerns. A passaholic lightweight side can frustrate, but no team is perfect.

    I genuinely feel we can have a great season

    The Ghosts of the Thirties are Stirring


    This may surprise evonne, but if it meant missing out on a player, I would prefer if Arsene done his charity thing. Hes obliviously given his word and been Arsenal manager must do the honourable thing.

    Besides, it is these very qualities that will eventually see us rise to the top.

  126. mickydidit89 says:


    Miyaichi to Feyenoord

    Best transfer news of the day. We’ll be considerably stronger without him 🙂

  127. arnie says:

    Agreed, Micky. 🙂 Let it not be said that Arsenal is doing no transfer “business” on judgment day! 😛

  128. kelsey says:

    micky, if you can’t laugh,cry 🙂

  129. fatgingergooner says:

    Can Sanogo play CB aswell as up front? Hope so!

  130. mickydidit89 says:


    My very words yesterday

    mickydidit89 says:

    August 31, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    “Important thing from Chapter 1 of the season was to qualify for the CL, not lose, get some points on the board and bed Sanchez, Debs and Chambers in, so overall, job done.”

    Still worried about Transplant’s news that the league will be “close” 🙂

  131. mickydidit89 says:

    Still want a Giroud/Sanogo upgrade though 🙂

    Off for my hourly check on the Cavani odds 🙂

  132. Norfolk Gooner says:

    GN5, “AW feels that he has enough striking power in his squad and I am more than happy to take his word as he sees all of his players every day in training and knows their attributes better than anyone else. But I’m still nervous.”

    You have every right to be nervous,

    Walcott….injured, due back…who knows.

    Giroud….Injured, due back….minimum four months.

    Sanogo….Right now he couldn’t hit the proverbial barndoor if he was holding the handle.

    Campbell….Totally untried in the Premiership, unused sub yesterday, Podolksi prefered.

    Podolski….Wernger was willing to sell him until Giroud got crocked.

    ’nuff said?

  133. fatgingergooner says:

    If 6 defenders is enough to cover 4 positions for the season, then surely 6 attackers is enough to cover 1 position!!! 🙂

  134. chas says:

  135. chas says:

  136. arnie says:


    Joel Campbell ‘requests’ deadline day move to Benfica

    Striker is reportedly unhappy with his lack of playing time
    James Orr
    Monday 01 September 2014

    Portuguese news outlet O Jogo have reported that Arsenal striker Joel Campbell is closing in on a permanent €10m (£8m) move to Benfica on deadline day.

    While selling a striker would be an odd move by Gunners’ manager Arsene Wenger with it looking increasingly likely no new signings will be made today, O Jogo have reported that Campbell himself has requested the move away from the Emirates.

    The 22-year-old Costa Rica returned to the Gunners this season after a successful campaign at Olympiakos last term, where he scored eight league goals. Campbell then went to World Cup in Brazil, scoring a fine goal against Uruguay in a 3-1 group stage win.

    He has failed to break into the Arsenal team since, however, playing only 20 minutes in two brief substitute appearances.

  137. kelsey says:

    I have absolutely nothing against Wenger as though he part inherited a team he has worked wonders on the restraints he has had to face but I honestly feel that the game has passed him by. This can happen to people especially at his age and as we all know he didn’t resign his contract until after we won the FA Cup.

    I wrote an article several weeks back that “a leopard never changes his spots” and though I can’t argue with my good friend GN5 about our results,some of the quotes by Wenger himself these past few weeks are to say the least,baffling.
    I still think because he turned Henry from a winger to a world class forward that he can do that with several players he has bought.
    Why buy a player like Ozil for a huge sum for us and constantly play him out of position ?
    Why does he often buy a player who he thinks can play in up to three different positions. It may work but more than likely it won’t.
    to me that is penny pinching and not building a strong squad.

    RVP said the club lacked ambition.He may or may not be right but really what one has to consider is what is ambition.Is it to guarantee a top 4 position, win trophies or both.
    Has Kroenke put any money into the club ? is laws or Gazidis really the right men to take the pressure off Wenger, or has Wenger got overall control. If he has IMO that is a dangerous position for the club.
    Time will tell,but I am not very optimistic.

  138. kelsey says:

    If I am wrong,Micky will invite all of you that can still walk and balance to a surfing beach party 🙂


    That means no one Kelsey. hahaha

  140. Eddie says:

    Terry – I am sure you are right. After all nobody could predict that Pants Down would be crocked. Wenger did the buying/selling early in the summer (for once 🙂 ) and agreed to atten some charitable and not so charitable events. He probably gave an elbow to Max Mosley fancy dress party, but a game for poor kids is a different proposition

  141. GunnerN5 says:

    Kelsey my friend we are 2 veteran supporters with very different views, you see even though you raise some very interesting questions the answers will always be unknown. Only AW and his team know the reasoning behind his decisions so only they will be able to assess the success rate.

    Questions that are based on the results are easy to ask – but making the right decisions based on unknown variables is a whole lot tougher.

    I will rue the day that AW is no longer our manager……..

  142. chas says:

    “not very optimistic”
    Haha, understatement of the year.

    Inherited a defence,
    RVP “club lacks ambition” quote,
    4th is a trophy,
    no billionaire input,
    Wenger the megalomaniac.

    There must be a few more dooming cliches you can think of, surely?

    As someone said the other day,
    ‘In the double winning side of 1971,

    Frank McLintock was a midfielder converted into a centre-half,

    Peter Storey was a full back converted into a defensive midfielder,

    George Graham was a striker converted into a midfielder.’

  143. RA says:

    Hi GN5,

    You are right, in all respects.

  144. GunnerN5 says:

    NG @ 4:17pm

    That is exactly why I’m nervous but I don’t know what AW knows but I believe that he will do every thing in his power to correct the situation. Getting a long term injury to Giroud at the last moment is one of those events that cannot be planned for so that makes it a lot more difficult for him to resolve.

  145. Shard says:


    It’s not just you who says that, but isn’t it time we stop worrying about players ‘positions’? Those positional roles are helpful to a certain extent, but limited as well. Henry wasn’t a striker if you go by the strict positions marked out on the Sky infographic. Bergkamp definitely wasn’t. Ljungberg didn’t spend all game on the right flank etc etc.

    Ozil has a certain skill set, and as Wenger has said time and again, every player with some technical and passing ability wants to play through the middle, in what is now called the no.10 position. And yes, Ozil is very good at it. But, even if you leave aside issues of fitness and building understanding (making it a temporary measure) the key to building a team is to balance out everyone’s pluses and minuses so that the team profits.

    Granted, this is not happening at the moment, but I don’t think playing Mesut Ozil ‘out of position’ has much to do with it. The idea that a player has to play at a certain position only is overly simplistic in my view.

  146. kelsey says:

    I didn’t say all of those things,chas, so hang on 🙂

  147. GunnerN5 says:

    Hi back RA.

  148. Shard says:

    Norfolk at 3.25

    It’s weird. That’s the first time I’ve seen anyone criticise Wenger using that sort of analogy. Your analogy is almost a perfect illustration of why Wenger doesn’t indulge in..what he calls… ‘buy buy buy’.

    You presume there was no way to fit in Ozil, or Sanchez, but I think that patently incorrect. Sanchez is close to what Suarez would have offered us if we’d got him, and Ozil is a top creator who was added to a squad that was overly reliant on Santi Cazorla to create anything.

    Wenger’s always got a plan. He’s also almost always prepared to wait for his plan to come to fruition rather than panic and chase after something else. Which is normally what people complain about. The opposite of what you are doing actually.

  149. GunnerN5 says:

    Shard, I’m in complete agreement with your 5:09.

    Our team has skill and quality in abundance but seem to lack “power” players especially through the middle. It may well be that AW simply does not believe in power forwards and instead wants to play with a false #9 – which could account for him saying that we do not lack strikers.

  150. chas says:

  151. GunnerN5 says:

    Shard, again you are correct – AW displays patience, which is vital.

  152. RA says:

    It is ineluctably the case that bloggers reveal their true colours when the stress factor of the last day of the transfer window dawns, and there is no sign of any mouthwatering ‘sweeties’ forthcoming.

    That is not to say that I am immune to the odd sweety myself, and I find it both amusing and instructive to read the comments, the journos desperate attempts to rustle up some tasty rumour morsel, or the headline whoredom of some of the less salubrious blogs.

    Damn it — among my secret (or not so secret now) wish-list items are Messi, Ronaldo and Klose to be transferred to Arsenal, along with the certain and accepted understanding that that is childish, and I suspect that along with all the ire and finger pointing at Wenger, many others know that to be true too.

    In short – the last day of the summer transfer window is a clever and infuriating Publicity Show and an experience to be savoured and enjoyed for what it is, a major exhibition of footballing hoopla that all concerned buy into (some literally) and I for one love it!! 🙂

  153. Ok, I’m being patient ……….. I’ve done the shopping and started cooking the dinner but I can’t wait any longer ……Have we signed anyone yet??????????

  154. Shhhhhhh just saw a story about Carvalho ……. shall I just ignore it?

  155. I’m not sure I can …….. it’s made my heart beat faster lol

  156. RA says:

    It is difficult when one is personally embroiled in any activity to stand back and be objective about what is going on.

    I am referring to the reaction to D Day transfer activity or apparent lack of it. But observing the fans of other clubs and reading their views, it cannot escape any reasonable observer that there is what might be called a mass hysteria of fans emotions.

    Now I should say that I am not suggesting that we are all hysterical, not at all, but I use the term only to denote the last day phenomenon in which groups of fans from many financially different clubs simultaneously exhibiting symptoms of delight because their Lords and Masters have ‘spent some effing money’ irregardless of whether the money was spent wisely or not, or the opposite effect where fans of certain clubs collectively exhibit angry and sometimes vituperative symptoms because their clubs do not appear willing to spend the said ‘effing’ money on players, even if the decision not to do so is sound.

    It is fascinating to behold because it is such a human reaction, and I am part of it! 😉

  157. If no-one wants to talk to me I’m going to make a pudding ……. I have a feeling I’m going to need some comfort food this evening 😦

  158. stevepalmer1 says:

    Evening all, Arsene Refereeing a charity game out of the country by all accounts, Does that mean his Transfer business is done, or does it mean that he has delegated.

    I feel he has delegated, Lets face it it doesn’t really matter if he is in the country or not, does it.. Should he have delegated then his preferences would have been relayed, and if its a possibility a signing or two may happen, but if he has decided that the squad is not being added too, i suppose we will have to live with it.

    The way i see it at the moment, with Sanogo Giroud and Campbell, i would say that any one of them is only good enough at present as Back ups, so i still expect a striker. Trouble is there is not many left .

    Arsene has stated that he has enough Players, but if a player is available, who is better than we have already, he would be in the market.

    Personally, at the moment our strikers are not that good , but with who is out there for sale, our delegee’s will have a bit of a job.

    Hope Arsene referee’s fair.

  159. RockyLives says:

    What ho everyone!

    Canada calling.

    Anything happening?

    Don’t care if we don’t sign anyone. We’re going to win the league anyway.

    Chavs may be out of the traps like a greyhound with a cheetah on its tail but so what? They’ll have shot their bolt soon enough. Tortoise and hare and all that (how’s that for a mixed metaphor?).

    Man Shitty can’t even beat Stoke at home.

    ManUre – don’t make me laugh.

    Liverpuddlers – beat the Spuddlers… by season’s end it will just go down in the records as the team that finished fifth beating the team that finished 12th.

    And we are unbeaten despite playing at only 7.4% of what we’re capable of.

    Let the good times roll….

  160. Is Danny Welbeck better than Sanogo?

  161. arnie says:

    Comfort food is a good idea, Peaches, and perfectly in line with the AA flavour of the month. 😛

  162. fatgingergooner says:

    If we had signed nobody up to now and bought Sanchez, Ospina, Debuchy and Chambers today, i think the atmosphere in the camp would be far different to what it is.

  163. RA says:

    No one bought today, Peaches, and it is unlikely at this stage to happen.

    However, if you accept that as the most likely outcome it brings a certain relaxation of the psyche and you can enjoy the moment without the stress.

    Of course if the club pull off a piece of magic you can enjoy that even more, and think what a tosser that RA is. 🙂

  164. mickydidit89 says:

    Hi Peaches 🙂

    I wouldn’t hang around these parts, the dull realists are out in force 🙂

    Spend, spend, spend!

  165. arnie says:

    Not by my book. Can be a good understudy to Go Go Go, though. 🙂 He is apparently trying to force a move to Arsenal rather than the other way round. This one is a non-starter IMO. 🙂

  166. chas mobile says:

    … Or had we scraped a 2-1 win yesterday, everyone would be saying how good it is to grind out wins when not playing well.

  167. arnie says:

    I’m still holding on to a little bit of hope for Carvalho. Now, what a confession! 🙂

  168. GoonerB says:

    I think we will sign someone but really I think 3 positions need addressing. We could get away with 2. If we got another CB would it free up Chambers to move into DM. He is a bit raw but looking at how he has settled and his combination of size pace and technique he could be a revelation there. We are being linked with Winston Reid who is EPL adapted and this wouldn’t be a bad signing IMO, and not expensive.

    Without another reasonably prolific goal-scorer who can play up top I think we will struggle to improve on last year. IMO our lack of goal threat yesterday actually made us more susceptible to the counter-attack as we pushed more players up the pitch to try and desperately get that goal. Leicester looked threatening every time they broke forwards and if that had been say Chelsea I think we could have seen a repeat of last seasons game.

    Out of all the players who play attacking wide or ACM roles I feel there is 1 who could move effectively into the strikers role, more so even than Sanchez, and that would be Reus. He has the right combination of size pace and eye for goal for me and I feel the Bundesliga is more similar to the EPL than other leagues.

  169. RA says:

    Hi Terry Rocky,

    Your effervescent summation of the likely outcome of the EPL this season is clearly not based on the wishful thinking of your goodself and your goats Gunners supporting Canadian ex-pats, but on a scientific appraisal of the known rumours facts and is obviously correct. 🙂

  170. GoonerB says:

    Steve @ 5.54 what do you think about Reus as a potential striker rather than attacking midfielder. He apparantly was in London holding talks with us before his injury so that would mean both sides are interested. It may be that talk is enough to have convinced Reus and Arsene only needs a quick phone call to seal it with him, providing we dangle enough in front of Dortmund to get the nod.

  171. RA says:

    Damn it Rocky — my true ‘alter beliefs’ snuck in there, and betrayed me!! :D.

  172. stevepalmer1 says:

    Qite possible GoonerB, Wenger looked a bit to calm for me, I think deals have been done.

  173. fatgingergooner says:

    welbeck having a medical!

  174. RockyLives says:

    Exactly Redders – you can tell my postulations are scientific in nature by the precise use of a percentage amount to quantify the extent to which we have played up to our potential so far this year.

    I did not pluck the figure out of thin air. No indeed. I spent many, many second working it out.

    Apparently Vauxhall Carvalho has said he’s not going anywhere. But you might as well finish the pudding now that you’ve started…

  175. Shard says:


    This hype and hysteria is exactly why I dislike the transfer window. There never should have been a transfer window. What was wrong with the old system of having transfers open throughout the season(till March I think)? Nothing. It just paid agents, their media pals, the TV networks, and I would guess Uefa and third party investors, a lot less. This is just a means of creating artificial scarcity in the market, hence driving up prices, and ensuring that everyone gets a piece of the pie which, ultimately, we the fans pay for.

    The media love it because it gets them to drive people into a click frenzy. It is also the reason they oppose regulations like the FFP as unfair, because if the billionaire’s spending is curbed their transfer stories would have to reduce.

  176. GoonerB says:

    FGG. I actually wouldn’t mind Wellbeck. I think there is a better striker in there than most realise. He just happened to be at a club where there more mature strikers ahead of him so was often played wide. I think he is a better striker than Sanogo is currently and could have a break out season if a good attacking side got hold of him and played him regularly down the middle.

  177. RA says:

    Rocky, 🙂

    I never doubted you.

  178. Shard says:

    Gooner B

    Would love Reus, but if it is to happen it probably won’t be now.

    Also agree with you about Welbeck. Not the greatest striker that ever lived (He’s no Bendtner), but he has something about him. Think it would be a decent signing. (If it happens)

    Now..What about that defender Arsene?

  179. RA says:

    Shard, we speak as one! 🙂

    Relax – enjoy it – like me (well you do not need to ‘like me’) but perhaps enjoy it as I do!

    Even the 6 o’clock BBC News is highlighting the Billion pounds sterling transfer fees, as I type. Wonderful publicity for the game! 😀

  180. fatgingergooner says:

    whats not to line Gooner B?

    hes an upgrade on Sanogo, English, good age and works his tail off without the ball. Him and Sanchez will be hunting together! Also Spuds wanted him so even better!

    Hes definately got potential to be a decent player if hes used as a striker.

    Im not going to pretend hes a world beater, but if he gets a couple of early goals and gets a run in the team then might work out ok.

  181. Eddie says:

    Welbeck? ffs, he might be ok, but a far cry from Cavani or Falcao

  182. arnie says:

    I checked up on the Carvalho statement. What he said is that he is a player on contract, therefore it is not right for him to talk about a move. 😛

  183. mickydidit89 says:

    Bloody love the last day of the window, and it gets better as the deadline approaches. Fantastic stuff 🙂

    ps if we don’t get anyone, then Chambers can play everywhere, and the master plan would be Ox Sanchez Theo front three, and with that, I’d be very excited.

    In the meantime, spend, spend, spend 🙂

  184. arnie says:


  185. GoonerB says:

    Relax Eddie. Wellbeck is ok at the moment but could turn out to be more than that. He will split opinion at the moment but I think it is a very smart signing if we get him. He is EPL ready and big and quick. I think he will step forward if played as a striker with us, and further is the right type of striker to bring out the best in our attacking wide players and midfielders. It allows Alexis to adapt to the league from his preffered position and then look at whether he can play as a striker in a more relaxed manner rather than forcing the role on him now.

    I will make a bold prediction that Wellbeck will score more for us than Falcao will at Utd if both have similar game time.

  186. RockyLives says:

    Welbeck at United is like Sturridge at Chelsea – a good young player who finds it hard to get a look in at a club that prefers to buy “ready made” stars like Brave Sir Robin.

    Well, that’s my wishful thinking, anyway.

    He will certainly have something to prove if he leaves Manure.

    Mind you, having said all that, I don’t believe for a minute that he’s coming to the Arse 🙂

  187. kelsey says:

    Welbeck having a medical. that’s good, so I presume if he fails,he’s in the bag 🙂


    you are young enough to be my grandson,so show some respect 🙂

  188. RockyLives says:

    Kelsey 🙂

  189. Shard says:

    For those of you not content with the Welbeck rumour, apparently some Berlin based newspaper reporting we’ve activated Klaas Jan Huntelaar’s release clause.

  190. GoonerB says:

    There is every chance that Wellbeck is just at London Colney with the England squad and nothing else, and some hacks just want to get us all in a fluster for a laugh.

  191. Shard says:


    I do respect you… Just not your gloomy views 🙂

  192. GoonerB says:

    That would be ok by me as well Shard. Then one CD and start converting Chambers into one of the worlds best DM’s who can play CB when needed. Good old Terry may not be so wrong then afterall.

  193. Shard says:

    Balague saying a midfielder who can play CB coming from France? I hope it’s Gonalons.

    See RA…I’m doing my best to not only get into this whole deadline day thing, but actively contribute to it.

  194. kelsey says:

    If I was manager and I would take a pay cut to say 5 million a year I would have Gary Neville as my right hand man, in fact he would do everything and I would get the plaudits and the dosh.

    me gloomy Shard, never in a million years just a realist .i speak as I see it 🙂

  195. GoonerB says:

    A lot of unusual loan deals going on between the bigger clubs. Normally the smaller clubs taking loan players from the bigger boys. Could this be FFP kicking in?

  196. RockyLives says:

    This is such fun…

    Just in the last few hours our new striker has gone from:

    Cavani to
    Defoe to
    Bony to
    Reus to
    Welbeck to

    Who next? 🙂

  197. RA says:


    is that gonalon with all the other rumours? :-0

  198. Eddie says:

    welbeck is growing on me. He is very fast, faster than Theo. The two of them could rip defences apart. Ok, let’s sing him

  199. RA says:

    You see, Rocky, with the right attitude the Last Day can be fun, even if it is just to poke fun at the nonsense.

    The BBC are reporting that Welbeck will only be released on loan – so that rules us out as Arsene will not go the ‘loan’ route – hence the finger to Falcoa!! 🙂

  200. fatgingergooner says:

    Sky saying that Arsenal have said that your mum said that Welbeck deal is far from done between clubs.

  201. No Danny Welbeck it seems, I was just thinking how much I might like to see him linking up with Theo lol

  202. RA says:


    I have previously labelled the eponymous Kelsey, because of his warblings, as a male Cassandra. 🙂

  203. GoonerB says:

    Thats Welbeck put to bed then.

  204. fatgingergooner says:

    Looks like the deals off, if it was ever on! lol 🙂

    at least we got some excitement for the day!!!

  205. kelsey says:

    What about getting Kallstrom back.Now he was a great success.

  206. kelsey says:

    Of course Chamakh might fancy a move back with all the unrest at Palace.

  207. RA says:


    Stop messing about. Just have a look at your ball and tell us who we WILL get by 11 p.m. 🙂

  208. GoonerB says:

    When you think about it why would clubs like Sporting and Dortmund want to release important first teamers like Carvallho and Reus a few hours before the TW closes. Surely if we were interested in Reus we shold have done it a week ago so Dortmund had more time to cover him leaving. I will lol if we get one them after having just said that.

  209. kelsey says:

    I have thrown my ball out of the window,RA 🙂

    In any case I will be in bed long before that.

    It takes me an hour to sort out all my pills.

  210. Shard says:


    Kelssandra Crystals… I like it!! 😀

  211. kelsey says:


    RA is a piss artist a bit like you,but it’s all harmless.I do have one friend you know 🙂

  212. Shard says:


    If it’s any consideration, Sporting are apparently desperate for money, and Dortmund have already signed Kagawa again (whose departure led them to sign Reus in the first place)

    However, I never expected us to sign Carvalho because of the third party owners involved there (Same reason I never expected Falcao).

    I could imagine Reus coming to us, but now that Giroud is injured and Dortmund aren’t desperate to sell or Reus to leave, then it will take a huge offer to tempt them. I doubt that is happening this season, especially when his buy out clause reduces to something like 20m next season (reportedly).So, maybe next year, with Reus replacing Podolski.

    We”ll face more competition for him then though. Hopefully, Wenger, Arsenal’s Germans, the EPL, Arsenal’s playing style, and the chance to play with his idol Tomas Rosicky, would be enough to convince him then.

  213. Shard says:


    Who are you talking about? Apollo? 🙂

  214. kelsey says:

    Rosicky will be 41 next season though he says he has a body of a 28 year old, a bit like me.

  215. kelsey says:

    No, my dog Pedro .

  216. Shard says:


    That’s better than being like me. A 28 year old who has a body of a 41 year old 😦

  217. kelsey says:

    Sky Bet have reopened betting on Danny Welbeck’s next club with Arsenal 1/2 favourites and Tottenham 3/1.

    girls,drop the puddings and rush back.

    You couldn’t make this up if you tried 🙂

  218. kelsey says:

    and more.

    David Ornstein

    BBC Sport
    Welbeck latest

    Posted at 20:03

    “There is interest from Arsenal in Danny Welbeck, but this deal is complicated by a number of conversations that are taking place between Manchester United, Arsenal and the player.

    “This is a bit messy because Tottenham are also involved and there are various agendas at stake. It could happen but at this stage it is not advanced.”

  219. RockyLives says:

    Where do you keep this 28-year-old’s body? In the freezer?

  220. kelsey says:

    nearly right rocky.Actually in the mortury as I died years ago 🙂

  221. RA says:


    Is Kelsey collecting 28 year old bodies?

    (Watch out, Shard!!) 🙂

  222. I’m back, what’s happening dudes?

  223. RA says:

    Dude all, Peaches! 🙂


    You can have my body if you like Kelsey

    ime so worn out when i walk into the pub people comment “f*uck me Terry, have you been stuffed?” or “bad day in the freezer Terry?”

    If these Wellbeck rumours are true I will be very excited. He would be perfect for us. Powerful but also capable of getting in behind

    If we get him, in my mind that makes us favorates for the Champiions League

  225. Eddie says:

    nothing Peaches, fooking nothing. I am refreshing NewssNow constantly and nothing.

  226. arnie says:

    “girls, drop the puddings and rush back”. that is my highlight of the day. LOL. 🙂

  227. chas says:

  228. chas says:

  229. You see, just when we think it’s off Smudger gets a text to say its on.

    Wellbeck Wilshere Walcott

  230. I’ve got pudding, who wants?

  231. fatgingergooner says:

    Smudger reckons its a done deal! Interesting stuff.

    Must be a loan deal at this hour.

  232. GoonerB says:

    Terry @8.26. Your last line did make me chuckle. Where positive thinking is concerned you are like the terminator, indestructible. You have almost battered any of my remaining negativity into submission. For what it is worth I think Wellbeck would be very good for us and our current set-up but not everyone will see it this way.

  233. chas says:

  234. arnie says:

    No, not for me, GoonerB. But Welbeck without anyone leaving is better that no one coming in. Insurance plan, loan deal, and all that. So long as it does not generate even more negativity in the press, if such a thing were possible. 🙂


    hahaha chas, your 8.58 cracked me up man. hahaha. That Sky geezer is currently my favourate fake smiler

    Hi GB, hows it going mate? Yes, Wellbeck would be great. like a Sol Campbell moment, guaranteed to spring us to glory

    I hope it bloody happens

  236. RA says:

    Terry Titmouse,

    You don’t fool me no how — I remember what you wrote yesterday when you joined the Doomers.

    I had a word with one of your thirsty goats, and they are really cross with ewe. 🙂


    hahaha, we all have our moments Redders

    Sometimes I watch our current side and wonder were its all heading but always come round a bit later to the wonderful reality that we are on verge of greatness

    I do feel we need some one like Wellbeck though. Our technical midgets need some one that can not only come to the ball but can also go behind

    If we get him ime convinced we will win the league and have great chances in europe too.

  238. chas says:


    hahaha, is that genuine chas?

    If it is, then when Arsene leaves I want Warnock as manager

  240. Seems that if Arsenal work very hard they’re gonna get their man 🙂

  241. Gööner In Exile says:

    Evening all, how we feel about Welbeck?

    Think Maths is the answer……or squad quotas.

    Current squad 6 HG/CHG, 16 Overseas.

    Maximum 17 Overseas, minimum 8 homegrown. Assuming we may bring in a centre back or holding midfielder and considering all English/Welsh ones available are pisspoor, they will need to come from overseas, Miquel going to Norwich must mean someone coming in…..surely!

    Welbeck, well i think he hasn’t actually set the world alight but he has never been a centre forward at ManUre, for England he is a good finisher, and poacher, could be just what we need.

  242. RA says:

    In a way, Peaches, it proves the nonsense of the last month of the Transfer Window, in that every single player allegedly linked with us has proved to be the rubbish we suspected it was.

    Now we seem to be close to signing someone who had no link with us until less than 12 hours ago!

  243. LB says:

    I was going to write a post about the worst transfer rumours that we have had to suffer during this window. On my list I had only one more ridiculous than Arsenal signing Remy and that was Arsenal signing Wellbeck. I had it down as absolute nonsense.

    How foolish was I not to realise that underneath it all he was a really good player. Just goes to show that you never can tell.

    One Danny Wellbeck there’s only one Danny Wellbeck.

  244. Gööner In Exile says:

    Maybe Arsene is playing a cunning game of poker, ManUre probably need to sell Welbeck to get Falcao, whereas we can drag it out until we say we don’t want Welbeck and then snap up Falcao?

  245. LB says:

    I like your idea much more GIE

  246. Gööner In Exile says:

    Sanogo would be impressed:

  247. RA says:

    Hi GIE,

    Don’t you and Mrs GIE have an important date with the midwife? 🙂

    I have always liked Welbeck and although he is not what I was hoping for, I am not agin him.

    In my opinion I think the deal is dependent on the Falcao deal going thru for Untd – if it fails then the Welbeck deal won’t go thru either.

  248. Gööner In Exile says:


  249. arnie says:

    hmmm, GiE. 🙂

  250. Gööner In Exile says:

    T-36 hours RA…………Mrs Exile is complaining she would prefer tomorrow, i have offered watching a Chelsea game for anaesthetic and getting my stanley knife out……haven’t figured out how i do the stitch up but i’m sure a safety pin will hold it together while i wait for the no more nails to set

  251. LB says:

    Maybe we have already signed a HM but the club are waiting to announce it. A bit like a spoon full of sugar.

    Arsenal have signed Danny Welbeck, big whoop!

    And Sammi Khadira.

    Or Arsenal sign Manu reject and William Carvalho.

    That sounds better.

  252. Gööner In Exile says:

    Thats a good plan…..anyone know who is playing in this game that Arsene is managing at? Higuain by any chance?

  253. LB says:

    Ahh, so there is only one L in his second name, I never bothered taking any notice.

  254. fatgingergooner says:

    A massive United fan at work is absolutely fuming at the sale of Welbeck. He reckons £16m for a young English striker is peanuts. Espescially one who is yet to fulfil his potential in his correct position.

    The more I look at the signing the more I like it.

    I’m shocked we haven’t got a defender, but I suppose if you add Bellerin to the mix then we have 2 RB, 3 CB and 2 LB, which should see us through to January at least. Surprised we didn’t get someone like Alderwiereld for a season though. Would’ve made sense.

  255. LB says:

    I am playfully trying to think of tomorrow’s headline.

    Better Welbeck than Sanogo for the next four months.

    I am not writing it by the way it needs someone who can write fast. I have only just learnt where the home keys are, which makes me reeeeaaaally reeeeeeaaaally slow.

  256. LB says:

    Arsenal improve upon Sanogo……just.

  257. chas says:

    Colin Wanker isn’t an anagram of Neil Warnock for no reason. 🙂

  258. LB says:

    If Welbeck is joining why isn’t Podolski leaving?

    We are going to have a really good Capital One Cup team this season.

  259. LB says:

    That’s an hilarious spoof of Neil Warnock up there.

  260. stevepalmer1 says:

    Ryo Miaki out on loan Miguel sold and maybe Welbeck in, could be a 5 men in transfer window, Productive window for Gooners, And Arsene refereeing while all this is happening. (delegating at last)

  261. Gööner In Exile says:

  262. RA says:

    If Ferguson was still the boss at Manure the Welbeck deal would never be possible.

    However, I do not trust Manu and until the deal is done – it isn’t done.

  263. arnie says:

    RA, agreed. GiE. 🙂

  264. arnie says:

    Nastasic, van Dijk, Carvalho still doing the rounds? 🙂

  265. GoonerB says:

    I’m with you on that RA. I don’t trust it till it is fully confirmed. I still maintain that Wellbeck is an underrated striker that hasn’t yet hit his peak. He is no Henry but not many players reach that level. I think he could easily be as good as an Adebayor but without the baggage, and with his pace and strength and the quality in our midfield I can see a 25+ a season striker.

    Would like to see another CD because it could give us the option of Chambers playing DM. Is there any guarantee that a young Carvalho or young Rabiot would be any better than Chambers could prove to be at DM?

  266. arnie says:

    and Huntelaar! 😛

  267. mickydidit89 says:

    Evening all

    Well….have we?

  268. mickydidit89 says:

    Welbeck eh. Is that official?

  269. mickydidit89 says:

    Oh piss off, I know you’re all behind the curtains….pathetic

  270. Gööner In Exile says:

    According to SSN, we have applied for an extension to get the deal done, fee agreed personal terms need sorting………..oh come on…..

  271. chas says:

    Thank fuck for that, the bastard’s closed. 🙂

  272. Gööner In Exile says:

    😀 As they keep reminding us on SSN….could still have deals going through for next hour.

  273. mickydidit89 says:

    Net spend is all I care about 🙂

    How long do we have to wait, because I’m on the ropes here 🙂

  274. mickydidit89 says:

    Ha ha Exile

    Just seen the Rooney pic, although is Falcoa really going to earn over £300k a week? Shit, he’d better perform

  275. fatgingergooner says:

    Headline tomorrow:-

    Tight arse Wenger costs Arsenal chance of top 4 by getting Welbeck instead of Falcao!

    Something stupid along those lines.

  276. mickydidit89 says:

    Can’t be doing an hour more, and anyway no Cavani means I’ll be in full on doooom mode in the morning.

    See you there in the dark cave Crystals 🙂

    Nite all.

  277. GoonerB says:

    It looks good on the Wellbeck front which I am happy about. He is not as celebrated a name as some but could be the more ideal fit for us than some of the bigger names. Still hoping a CD was sneaked through unnoticed or we may end up a bit short there. Can Debuchy play at CD as Sagna could? He is marginally bigger than Sagna and looks like he could deputise there if needed. With Bellerin as back up at RFB it could still work out.

  278. fatgingergooner says:


    It was Monreal who was being used in pre season and Wenger seems to think he can do a job there if needed. Not convinced myself but hopefully we won’t need to find out!

    Hope Welbeck deal gets done. Decent signing.


    I would rather have Welbeck than Falco. Have you lot seen Falco run? He moves like a puppet.

    It wont take long for Utd fans to realsie they have bought Eddie Mcgoldrick.

    Ime really pleased tonight. For the balance of the side Welbeck is perfect. Would like to see thugish sides like Leiscter defend there box now we have power and movement up front, they will get thrashed.

  280. arnie says:

    hmmm, I think I’m a sceptic 🙂 as opposed to a realist or a doomer. 😛 Nevertheless, have to accept that Welbeck brings something different. Have to trust Arsene on this one.

  281. arnie says:

    Good news is Welbeck has a point to prove. 🙂

  282. Gööner In Exile says:

    Apparently he is 1 in7 as winger, 1 in 3 as centre forward.

    But that doesn’t say who played wide when he was upfront, if Nani he was never going to do well.

  283. fatgingergooner says:

    Telegraph quoting this from Wenger in Italy:-

    “What is my last wish on the transfer market? My wish is to sign a player before midnight,”he said. “I am not in Rome for transfer business, but until the end things can still happen.”

  284. fatgingergooner says:

    Someone said earlier we would never have got him if SAF was at the club, and that’s so true. I’m very suprised United are dealing with us on this one, espescially after we sold Vermaelen to Barca. The only thing I can think of is that maybe they need the cash to comply with the FFP rules. After all, they have spent bucketloads this window.

  285. RockyLives says:

    Don’t know why you’re all so doomy about us not having signed a Centre Back.

    Clearly that’s where Arsene is planning to play Danny Welbeck! Sorted 🙂

    Now if we can only get that Winston Reid in as cover for Giroud we’ll be well away.

  286. RockyLives says:

    Some comments on Man Utd blogs… They’re not happy to see Welbeck leave.

    Some of them are cross at him going to “a rival” but quite why they think we are a rival to them is beyond me. We have our sights set on the title, the ECL and the FA Cup, not a scramble to get in the top six like them.

    SEPTEMBER 1, 2014 AT 22:40
    cr says:
    Agree 100% with those who say that this is a mistake. Give a past-his-best Rooney a 5 year deal and sell Welbeck to Arsenal? FFS.
    Happy about Falcao but we should have loaned Welbeck, not sold him. Big, big mistake.

    SEPTEMBER 1, 2014 AT 21:44
    dannysoya LOVES USAIN BOLT says:
    Absolutely GUTTED to have lost him to fucking Arsenal of all flipping teams. A Manchester United academy player practically from his mother’s womb, a big time Manchester United fan and one of our brightest prospects in a while and we’re selling him to ARSENAL for under 20 million pounds. He CAN finish if he gets his chance in that position. We never gave him enough games in that position and obviously with Falcao’s arrival he’s realized that the club does not give a dman about him and so he’s had to move.

    SEPTEMBER 1, 2014 AT 22:07
    UtdSenna says:
    Fucking gutted he leaves, but it was bound to happen. United with too many big name strikers he wouldn’t get the playing time he wanted. And people saying he doens’t have it in him, he is 23 ffs. You don’t know the end.
    Meanwhile Anderson, Cleverley, Young etc are STILL at the club.

    SEPTEMBER 1, 2014 AT 22:08
    slim says:
    I don’t freaking believe it. A permanent deal. Didn’t see that coming. Gonna keep an eye out. I always rated Danny and he could thrive at Arsenal. just the kind of man they need. Good luck Danny boy

  287. 26may1989 says:

    The point’s been made already but what the hell, here’s something that appeared on the BBC website in 1999 with gaps for Welbeck’s details to be added in:

    “Arsenal announced the signing of the [ ]-year-old [ ] international. Both clubs declined to give details of the transfer fee, but it is believed [ ] cost the Gunners £[ ]m. Arsenal were also not willing to reveal the details of [ ]’s contract – other than to say it is a long-term deal. [ ] has been out of favour since the arrival of coach [ ] can play on the wing or as an out-and-out striker and offers Wenger more alternatives in attack.”

    If it isn’t blindingly obvious whose details appears in the original text, here’s another clue: when he arrived at Highbury he had a goal per game ratio of 0.19, compared to Welbeck’s 0.21.

    I agree with GoonerB, Welbeck isn’t an Henry (for it is he). And Welbeck isn’t the world class player we’d have liked, but we’re better for having recruited him (assuming it really does go through)

  288. fatgingergooner says:


    Night all…

  289. 26may1989 says:


    Arsenal sign England forward Welbeck

    Danny Welbeck has joined Arsenal for an undisclosed fee on a long-term deal.

    The 23-year-old England international forward joins Arsenal from Manchester United, where he made a total of 90 appearances, scoring 20 goals. Since making his senior debut in 2008, Welbeck has also won 25 England caps.

    Welbeck, who can play as a centre forward or a winger, developed through the youth ranks at Man United and during his time at Old Trafford had successful loan spells at Preston North End and Sunderland.

    Making his senior England debut in March 2011, Welbeck was in the England squads for both Euro 2012 and the 2014 World Cup.
    Welbeck is currently on international duty with England and will then join up with his new Arsenal team-mates to prepare for the Premier League home match against Manchester City on Saturday, September 13.

    The transfer is subject to the completion of regulatory formalities. Everyone at Arsenal welcomes Danny to the club and looks forward to his contribution in an Arsenal shirt this season.

  290. 26may1989 says:

    Still amazed we haven’t signed a defensive-minded player – the end result means big opportunities may come up for Bellerin and Hayden. But a risky situation for us.

  291. RockyLives says:

    Well I for one am very happy with the signing of Welbeck.

    Ozil will love his pace and movement.

  292. Gööner In Exile says:

    Have to look at the bigger picture, the signing of Welbeck left us two squad spaces by my count, and only one for non homegrown.

    My guess is Arsene has someone in mind to replace Flamini next term, and of he isn’t available now then it makes sense to wait.

    Is Coquelin staying in the squad? If so that’s another who can play in the holding midfield role and probably as well as Flamini.

  293. ces1ne says:

    Can’t believe people on this blog are still chuffing for Coquelin after all these years. The guy couldn’t make it at the 2nd rate French club we loaned him to last season.

  294. kelsey says:

    Morning,though I know most of you are still snug as a bug in bed.

    It looks like AW had no intention of signing an attacking forward until Giroud got injured and Welbeck could well fill the gap in experience as opposed to Cambell or Sanogo,but overall a good signing.

    Where that leaves Podolski regardless where he plays will be interesting.

    To sum up not a great transfer window but certainly not a bad one.

    In theory we could have practically half the English team playing for Arsenal which will shut up the “he only buys french brigade”.

    Back to the freezer 🙂

  295. chas says:

    Is that where you sleep?

  296. chas says:

  297. mickydidit89 says:

    Welbeck eh…..splendid chap.

    Here we go, two bloody weeks. Let’s reeeally lower the tone

    Actually, before we get down and dirty, is there a vid of Welbeck goals and speed?

    I go look

  298. mickydidit89 says:

    Wiki says his name is “Daniel Nii Tackie Mensah “Danny” Welbeck”, I mean slight ROLF there.

    He’s tall, but it doesn’t tell me how fast he goes in top gear, or how quickly he accelerates.

  299. chas says:

    Are you saying Robbie isn’t a genius poet as well?

  300. mickydidit89 says:

    Look Chas

    The Interdull has started well, so don’t go and stick up any reference to any band formerly of Liverpool

  301. Morning

    Welbeck it is then. Young England International what’s not to like.

    Did anyone offer to write a post about him for today? At least he’s got some new team-mates with him in the England camp.

  302. mickydidit89 says:


    I’m no Take That fan, just because I think they were better than the Beatles, but what a bunch of twats those Shirehorses are

  303. chas says:

    Here’s really lowering the tone……

  304. mickydidit89 says:


    Arnie didn’t yet

  305. mickydidit89 says:


    We may have to wait until some brainbox awakes, as I haven’t got a clue.

    Seen him about three times including England. Yes, I’d say he’s better than Ollie or Yaya and also more versatile.

  306. mickydidit89 says:

    And according to Exile

    “Apparently he is 1 in7 as winger, 1 in 3 as centre forward”

    Could mean goals per starts, goals per shots, ratio shots on/off target, direct hits with the ladies, who knows? 🙂

  307. LB says:

    It just goes to show that Champions League football still attracts the bright young talent.

  308. LB says:

    He should be straight in the team as soon as he recovers from his injury picked up while on England duty.

  309. LB says:

    On a slightly more serious level, he really is an upgrade on Sanogo for the next four months.

    Four months Loooooool

    As if Giroud is going to play again this season.

  310. mickydidit89 says:

    I’m still Oooing and Ahhhing over those Falcao wages.

    Just can’t see how Utd play him, Brave and Fatso in the same side, and then, can having a player on those wages while just on loan be that great for morale and stability?

  311. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    Falcao: €400,000 a week. that is €20m a year!! Absolute madness.

    RvP will not be at all happy about that – his inner child will be throwing it’s dollies right out of the pram.

    Meanwhile for 10 months wages of an unproven striker we have bought a full International striker.

    In the words of the very great Whispering Bob Harris ……. Nice, very Nice

    n.b. We Europeans only work in Euros (at least our keyboards do 😀 )

  312. mickydidit89 says:

    Serious question

    Why is Falcao leaving Monaco on loan?

    And that’s quite apart from the question as to why any player with footballing aspirations would go there in the first place. You’d think having played for Porto, A.Madrid and Monaco, he’d want a top Club in the CL at the very least.

  313. mickydidit89 says:


    I think you’re right about Brave.

    He can rightly only be thinking:

    “Oi LVG, you see Falcao as better than me, and worth a hell of lot more, and you also think Utd’s problem is scoring goals. Well hello Louise, news for you Pal. Fatso and I can, do, and will score all the effing goals we need. Your problem you weird haired flat faced loon is the supply to us and the bloody defence. You’re a moron, and I’m not going try any more”

  314. mickydidit89 says:

    Oh and Raddy

    We English can do this £££££ and €€€€€€ 🙂

  315. chas says:

  316. RA says:

    And the yankee doodles can do £££ – €€€€ – $$$ – ####

    Raddy your keyboard is on a Bendtner of the computer world.

    (Which computer have you got?) 🙂

  317. mickydidit89 says:

    Ha ha Chas 🙂

  318. mickydidit89 says:


    “Which computer have you got?”

    You mean the lefty hippy arty sensitive strokey dopey oil me up Raddy?

    That’ll be an Apple then 🙂

  319. RA says:

    No one can complain about that transfer window business as there have been upgrades with all 5 players bought.

    The mystery is, as 26M said, is how did we not replace Vermaelen, and get cover for 31 y.o. Flamster and 33 y.o. Mikel?

    The answer may well be that some of the youngsters will be pushed through such as Hayden CB, Zelalem MF, etc — they have got to be maturing nicely in the U21s.

  320. RA says:

    Raddy, if the Micky is correct, have you pressed the Option key at the same time as the No.3 key?

    The ‘Option’ key is the ‘alt’ key on a post 1950s keyboard! 🙂

    Bloody hippies.

  321. RA says:


    That is a good question as to why Falcao, and presumably Monaco, wanted him to move on a year after they bought him.

    Answer No,1 The tiny little non-tax paying Monaco have fallen foul of FFP?

    Answer No.2 Falcao has turned out to be crap and Monaco wanted to offload him.

  322. RA says:

    Taking to myself – again 🙂 something I find endlessly interesting – so I will take a hike.

  323. mickydidit89 says:

    Take a hike….after just 20 minutes alone!

    No stamina 🙂

  324. mickydidit89 says:

    Right, that’s it. I’m off 🙂

  325. Big Raddy says:

    RA. Thanks for the info. I can do it ££££

    And Yes, of course I have a Mac. It is the only sensible option to us hippy types – it is intuitive you know.

  326. fatgingergooner says:

    Going to be fun to watch United this season with RVP, Falcao, Mata, Di Maria and Rooney at one end, and Evans, Smalling, Jones and Blackett at the other!!!!

    They are a shoe-in for the both teams to score bet every week!

  327. fatgingergooner says:

    When did this ‘loan with a view to a permanent deal’ become so popular? Every transfer now seems to be the same kind of thing, especially on deadline day.

    Falcao has been a great player, but I do question signing a 28 year old who has just come off the back of a really serious knee injury for that kind of money.

    There were even questions about his age recently in a Samuel Eto’o/Nwankwo Kanu stylie! Apparently he’s only 12! 🙂

    He does remind me of one of those troll toys that were popular when I was a kid! Lol

  328. Big Raddy says:

    Peaches. Do we have a post for today?

  329. mickydidit89 says:


    I was about to volunteer a Window Review, or are you on it?

  330. Eddie says:

    that LVG is a better manager than Moyes, great guy 🙂
    Would Fergie sell to us? I think not

    Agree with LB – poor Pants Down, he will be almost 29 when he recovers. Just as he was becoming a real force in the attack. What a shame

  331. mickydidit89 says:

    Chop chop Raddy

    I’ve work to do, it’s the last day of school holidays, the sun shines brightly and the surf is excellent.

  332. Big Raddy says:

    Can do. Head off into the sun Micky with a hippy’s blessing.

  333. Eddie says:

    the formation onanists will have so much fun lining up all our stars 🙂

  334. mickydidit89 says:

    I’m around for about two hours before I grab the “blessing” and run.

  335. Eddie says:

    micky – 2 hours? are you going to try to line up our starting XI for the Shitty game next week?

  336. RC78 says:

    Ospina, Debuchy, Chambers, Sanchez and Wellbeck are our recruit for this year. Not bad at all – do you think that we fared well in the transfer window?

    According to me, we are still missing that battling midfielder enforcer and this will cost us dearly vs big teams…

    I am, however, quite happy that Arsenal has a good core of British players at the moment with:Chambers, Gibbs, Wilshere, Ramsey, Oxlade and Wellbeck.

    If it were up to me, I would make it mandatory for each country (including the UK) to field 6 nationals in their starting XI…I am a PSG-fan and it saddens me only to see one French player as a definite starter in our starting XI…With Arsenal, I feel like we could start the game with at least 2 and potentially 6 – which is really nice.

  337. Eddie says:

    RC78 – yeah, now you would but not 10years ago when we had no Brits in the team 🙂

  338. arnie says:

    Motning all. nice banter, have to rush. 🙂

    Listen, Welbeck is rubbish, but he is a Gooner now, so mum’s the word. If he scores a couple against ManUre (home and away together), I will reconsider. Until that time, good cover. 😛

    Please go up and check the video that GiE posted. 🙂

    On that note, good luck GiE. Can be a lengthy affair, as you know well enough. 🙂 🙂 🙂

  339. arnie says:

    Agree with RC, absolutely wonderful transfer business. 🙂 🙂 🙂

  340. Big Raddy says:

    New short and to the point Post ……

  341. I’m back for a minute. Raddy are you writing a post? Can you publish yourself please 🙂

  342. mickydidit89 says:


    Rubbish is harsh I would think.

  343. Telepathic too 🙂

  344. Eddie says:

    micky – talk to me darling, I was only joking, please forgive me xxxx

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