Arsenal’s Greatest Forwards – Day 1

Continuing our Summer series of articles in search of Arsenal’s greatest ever team, this week we begin our quest for the greatest forwards to include in our team.  Don’t forget to take the opportunity to choose your personal favourite striker from an earlier era by voting in the poll at the end of the week.

1. Jimmy Brain 1923-1931.

Jimmy made 232 appearances over 8 years and scored 139 Goals.

Born in Bristol, England, Jimmy started his career playing in Wales, having an unsuccessful trial at Cardiff City, before gaining a regular place at Ton Pentre.J Brain

In 1923, he moved to Arsenal, after a year in the reserve side, Jimmy started his Arsenal first-team career with a goal on his debut, a 1-0 win against local rivals Tottenham Hotspur on 25 October 1924.

He was a prolific striker throughout his career, and was the club’s top scorer for four seasons in a row, from 1924-25 to 1928-29; this included 39 goals in the 1925-26 season (second only to Ted Drake’s haul of 45 in 1934-35), which included four hat tricks. The next season, 1926-27, Jimmy scored 34 goals, including two four-goal tallies against Sheffield Wednesday and Burnley. His goal scoring feats helped Arsenal reach their first FA Cup final, in 1926-27.

Jimmy’s form dropped off in 1929-30, and he competed for his position with Jack Lambert, David Jack and Dave Halliday, meaning he only played six league matches in that season. He missed the Gunners’ 1930 Cup final win over Huddersfield Town; David Jack and Jack Lambert led the line that day. However, the following season, 1930-31, Jimmy finally won a medal after playing sixteen matches (scoring four goals) in Arsenal’s first Division one title-winning season. His final appearance in an Arsenal shirt was a 2-0 win over Sheffield Wednesday on 21 March 1931.

In total, he scored 139 goals in 232 appearances for Arsenal, making him the Gunners’ joint-fifth top scorer of all time, and he was the first player ever to score 100 goals for the club, a feat he achieved in a 6-3 win over Liverpool on 7 March 1928. However, he never played for England; he managed to secure a trial for the national team but was never actually selected.

Age was now catching up with him, and he had been overtaken in the goal scoring by both Lambert and Jack. He left Arsenal for Tottenham for £2,500 in September 1931, becoming one of the few players to have moved directly between the two rival clubs.

By the time Jimmy had joined Spurs he was in his thirties, and only played 47 times for them, scoring 10 goals, before leaving in 1934.

He played his final years out at Swansea Town and Bristol City. After retiring as a player, he managed first King’s Lynn and then Cheltenham Town from 1939 until 1948, after which he retired completely from football.

He died in 1971, at the age of 71.

2. Jack Lambert: 1926-1933.

Jack played in 161 games over 7 years and scored 109 goals.

Born in Greasbrough near Rotherham, Yorkshire, Lambert was turned down by Sheffield Wednesday after a trial, so started his career playing for Rotherham County in 1922. He soon made a move to Leeds United, but spent three years there with little success. He finally came to prominence after becoming a regular goal scorer for Doncaster Rovers, joining the side in January 1925. Playing in Yorkshire, he had attracted the attention of Herbert Chapman when the latter was manager of Huddersfield Town; when Chapman became Arsenal manager, needing a quality centre-forward, he signed Jack for £2,000 in June 1926.

J LambertHe made 16 appearances in his first season with the club, but only scored one goal. He also made 16 appearances in the 1927–28 season, but managed to score three times. He became a regular for the club towards the end of the 1929-30 season; scoring 18 times in only 20 league appearances.

The following season (1930-31) he was even more successful, scoring 38 goals in just 34 games in the League, a club record at the time (which was later broken by Ted Drake) that included a total of seven hat-tricks; that season Arsenal won the First Division title for the first time in their history. Jack continued to play for Arsenal over the next few years, scoring regularly (including five goals in a 9-2 defeat of Sheffield United, the most ever scored by an Arsenal player in a single home match); he helped Arsenal reach a third FA Cup final, a 2-1 loss to Newcastle United in 1931-32, and won a second First Division title in 1932-33, scoring 14 goals in just 12 league appearances.

By now Jack was over 30 and only a bit-part player (Ernie Coleman having led the front line through most of 1932-33), and the signing of Jimmy Dunne in September 1933 forced him out of the side; his last game came on 13 September 1933 against West Bromwich Albion.

In all he scored 109 goals in 161 games for the Gunners, a very high ratio, but it wasn’t enough for him ever to be selected for England.

He was sold in October 1933 to Fulham where he played for two seasons before retiring from playing in 1935. The following year he became coach of Margate (who at the time were Arsenal’s “nursery” club) and returned to Arsenal in 1938 as a coach of the club’s reserve side.

Tragically, he died at the age of 38, killed in a car accident in Enfield, Middlesex, on 7 December 1940.

3. David Jack: 1923-1934.

David played in 208 games over 6 years and scored 124 goals.

Born in Bolton, Lancashire, David started his career with his father’s club, Plymouth Argyle in 1919. There he scored 15 goals in 48 appearances in all competitions. In 1920 he returned to the town of his birth, moving to Bolton Wanderers for £3,500. He spent eight seasons with the Trotters, forming a formidable partnership with Joe Smith, and between them they scored over 300 goals. While at Bolton, he made history by being the first person to score a goal at Wembley Stadium, in the 1923 FA Cup Final; Bolton won 2–0 and Jack earned his first medal.

David_JackA year later, he won his first England cap, in a 1–2 defeat against Wales on 3 March 1924. In eight years he played eight times for his country and scored three times. He continued to have success with Bolton, winning the FA Cup again in 1925–26, scoring the only goal in a 1–0 win over Manchester City. He was the club’s top scorer for five of the eight seasons he was there, scoring 144 goals in 295 league matches.

In 1928, with Bolton in financial trouble, he was signed by Herbert Chapman’s Arsenal for £10,890 (nearly double the previous record); famously, Herbert used his usual tactic of plying Bolton’s representatives with liquor, while he pretended to, so he remained sober while they got very drunk, he then haggled the fee down to a price he considered a bargain.

Intended as a replacement for retired captain Charlie Buchan, David was a success at Highbury. He made his debut against Newcastle United on 20 October 1928, and became a regular straight away. He was the club’s top scorer for the 1928–29 season. Although less prolific than centre-forward Jack Lambert, he still scored important goals, including the one in the 1929–30 FA Cup semi-final against Hull City which sent Arsenal through to the final; Arsenal beat Huddersfield Town 2–0 in the final and he became the first player to win the Cup at Wembley with two different clubs.

He continued to feature for Arsenal through the early 1930s, recording a personal best of 34 goals in Arsenal’s First Division-winning season of 1930–31. He won two more titles in 1932–33 and 1933–34; however by the time of the latter he was in his mid-30s and reaching the end of his career, with competition for his place from new signing Ray Bowden meant Jack played only 16 matches that season. He retired soon after winning his third league medal, in May 1934. In all he scored 124 times in 208 matches for Arsenal.

After retiring from playing, he went on to become manager of Southend United, and then Middlesbrough. He also managed League of Ireland side Shelbourne from the summer of 1953 to April 1955.

He died in 1958, aged 59.

Written by GunnerN5 and compiled by Gooner in Exile

80 Responses to Arsenal’s Greatest Forwards – Day 1

  1. Big Raddy says:

    If the others were tough, this choice will be even more difficult and unfortunately I can predict now who will win. But just look at Lambert’s ratio, and the others were the best forward players of their time.

    When David Jack signed his fee was the world’s highest and the first ever 5 figure transfer!

  2. Manthan says:

    Thanks GN5 and GIE for all this info you are providing us from past one month.. I have spread all this knowledge about arsenal i got here to my other gunners friends in India 😀

  3. RockyLives says:

    Yet more fascinating bios of bygone heros. Their goal- to-game ratios are astonishing, but I suppose footy was different then and there were clearly more high scoring games.

    Can’t vote for anyone who left us for the Spuds though.

    Thanks again Gn5.

  4. LB says:

    Fascinating stuff guys, always a good read.

  5. GunnerN5 says:

    Hi there,

    I was not fortunate enough to see any of them play, they were even before my time, but I listened intently when my dad and his brothers spoke about their goal scoring feats.

    They played on rough pitches with poor equipment and questionable levels of fitness but were still able to score an incredible amount of goals.

    I aroused my own curiosity and I’m off to see if Jack Lambert’s seven hat tricks in a single season is a record.

  6. GunnerN5 says:

    In response to my own question, the record for the most hat tricks in a season is 9 by George Camsell of Middlesbrough.

  7. GunnerN5 says:

    Raddy,

    You are right the winner of the forwards category is a forgone conclusion, but then again he is the best player ever to play in the Premiership.

  8. RockyLives says:

    You mean John Hartson?

  9. GunnerN5 says:

    John who?

  10. GunnerN5 says:

    Where’s Kelsey?

    I hope everything is okay, dandan do you know?

  11. Big Raddy says:

    No. GN5 meant Chris Kiwomya

  12. RockyLives says:

    I would insert a pic of John if I knew how…

    You haven’t really forgotten him have you Gn5?

  13. Big Raddy says:

    Interesting that Perez at RM says there has been no bid for Higuian – we have to believe him because it would be easy to disprove.

    More paper talk creating millions of words of hot air. Some Arsenal “fans” feel the club has misled and betrayed them!

    Wonder about the veracity of the Suarez bid.

  14. GunnerN5 says:

    As a special favour to Rocky I bring you – the hard to, but almost forgotten –

    …………………………………………………………………………………………..

    John Hartson

    Welsh international striker John Hartson scored for Arsenal in the 1995 European Cup Winners Cup Final.

    Signing professional for Luton Town in December 1992, he helped them reach the FA Cup semi-finals in 1993/94 and moved to Highbury in January 1995.

    John netted 14 goals in 53 Premiership games for Arsenal before being sold to West Ham in February 1997.

    Leading marksman in 1997/98, he joined Wimbledon for £7,000,000 in January 1999 and had a spell with Coventry City prior to joining Celtic in August 2001.

    John starred in their 2001/02 ‘treble’ triumph and joined West Brom for £500,000 in July 2006.

    ………………………………………………………………………………………

    How could I possibly missed such a magnificent contributor to our history, I bow my head in shame…………………

  15. Norfolk Gooner says:

    BR, I can’t believe we’ve bid £30 million for Suarez, a terrific player and I would be delighted to think Arsenal could afford him, he carries a bit too much baggage though.

    Obviously we can’t believe anything in the papers, they’re as much in the dark as we are.

  16. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Have I been placed in limbo?

    My comments are not appearing.

  17. GunnerN5 says:

    Raddy,

    Be patient until Sept 2st then all will be clear – the transfer window will be closed and all the truth and lies will become evident.

  18. Big Raddy says:

    Never been a patient man. I want a signing and I want him …. now

  19. Big Raddy says:

    I listened to John Hartson in interview. Charming man and one who has overcome cancer. He is a Gooner and was very sad when he left AFC.

    Hartson was the most expensive player in PL history when AFC bought him.

  20. GunnerN5 says:

    Raddy,

    My profile of him is factual, but I was jesting with Rocky, there’s no doubt he had talent. His best years were spent with Celtic where he scored 88 goals in 146 appearances.

  21. RockyLives says:

    His days were numbered after AW arrived. Too much of an old fashioned “muscular” centre forward for Arsene’s taste.

    He wasn’t the most talented player but he always gave everything.

  22. GunnerN5 says:

    Just the type we need today me thinks?

  23. evonne says:

    tears for fears

  24. Gooner In Exile says:

    The beginning of the end of GN5s Arsenal Opus. Surely scoring stats from this era are exaggerated by two things:

    1) 2-3-5 formation
    2) Goalkeepers were just the worst outfield player in the squad and were normally leaning on the post having a fag sulking.

    Has the audacious stunt happened at the Emirates yet?

  25. chas says:

    Jack Lambert and David Jack in the flesh.

    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/the-north-v-south-cup-final

  26. chas says:

    Lovely stuff, GN5. They all seemed to play at a similar time. No doubt part of the reason the team was so successful.

  27. chas says:

    GIE,
    I bet you’ve leant against a goalpost having a fag!

  28. Big Raddy says:

    My 12.56 should have said “most expensive teenager”

  29. GunnerN5 says:

    Fantastic video Chas – made my day, thanks a million.

  30. GunnerN5 says:

    GIE,

    All three players were managed by Herbert Chapman and it was more likely to be his famous “W-M” formation that allowed them to score so many goals rather than the old 2-3-5 set up.

    The manager prior to Herbert was Leslie Knighton – and his teams averaged 1.23 goals for per game whereas Chapman’s teams averaged of 2.15, including our all time record haul of 127 in 1930/31 and to show it was no fluke they scored 118 in 1932/33.

    Even in such a high scoring period Chapman’s teams only conceded 1.56 per game.

  31. RockyLives says:

    Great vid Chas
    Makes a change from “yeah well the lads are gonna give a hundred and ten percent..”

  32. Gooner In Exile says:

    Chas only in preseason……or fielding deep square leg on a couple of ropey cricket pitches.

  33. Gooner In Exile says:

    What was the WM in numbers GN5?

    3-2-2-3?

    Still pretty attacking 🙂

    The audacious stunt happened…..4 blokes abseiled down the Ems to reveal a banner of our British players in yellow and blue away kit, seemed they were all around at the launch too.

    But you have to laugh at twitter:

    1) Club announce audacious stunt to reveal kit
    2) Twitter assumes audacious stunt will include announcing new signing
    3) Club launch kit
    4) the deluded who convinced themselves of 2 go into meltdown!

  34. chas says:

    Difficult to find much of Jimmy Brain in action.
    These two photos are from Highbury against the mancs in 1926 with the lad in both.

    (someone nearly completely cut off the newspaper text from under the photo!)
    http://twitpic.com/d1qumo/full

    He got his revenge in this one beating the keeper to the ball
    http://twitpic.com/d1quo6/full

    The game was possibly this one as it matches 1926 and January (snow on the ground). Two goals for our Jimmy.
    http://www.11v11.com/matches/arsenal-v-manchester-united-16-january-1926-63416/

    Ha, just found a match report, too.
    http://tomhalltravel.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/a-blast-of-cold-air-from-the-past-classic-winter-football/

  35. GunnerN5 says:

    For those who are unaware of the W M formation adopted by Chapman – here is a description.

    …………………………………………………………………………………

    At Arsenal, Chapman immediately made an impact by signing 34-year-old Charlie Buchan, an England international and Sunderland’s all-time record goalscorer, whom he made Arsenal captain.[56]

    The “WM” formation that Chapman implemented at Arsenal.
    Chapman and Buchan’s arrival at the club coincided with a change in the laws of the game in June 1925, that modified the offside law. The change had reduced the number of opposition players that an attacker needed between himself and the goal-line from three to two (including the goalkeeper). Buchan’s idea, implemented by Chapman, was to move the centre half from a roaming position in midfield to a “stopper” position in defence. With the inside forwards brought back to help the midfield, this changed the usual formation from 2–3–5 to 3–4–3, or a “WM”, so called after the shape it formed spelled out the letters. This meant the offside trap was now the responsibility of the single centre half, while the full backs were pushed wider to cover the wings.

    Arsenal were by no means the only team to have come up with the idea of dropping the centre half into defence – Newcastle United beat Arsenal 7–0 that season employing such a system with Charlie Spencer at centre-half; Queen’s Park and Tottenham Hotspur had also adopted similar systems. However, Chapman was able to refine and improve on the idea better than his rivals, melding the tactical change with his own ideas on counter-attacking football, pacy wingers and a strong defence.

    Chapman himself summed it up by saying: “the most opportune time for scoring is immediately after repelling an attack, because opponents are then strung out in the wrong half of the field.

  36. Gooner In Exile says:

    “the most opportune time for scoring is immediately after repelling an attack, because opponents are then strung out in the wrong half of the field.”

    Ah when all teams were honest and played for the win! What would Chapman make of the many sides who come with the sole aim of not attacking?

    I still believe a new point scoring system would improve football:

    0-0 draw 0pts
    Lose without scoring 0pts
    Lose and score 1pt
    Score draw 2pts
    Lose and score +2 goals 2pts
    Score draw +2 goals 3pts
    Win 5pts

  37. cockofthesouth says:

    GIE that makes so much sense.

    Improve football – got to be done. It’s a very poor second to rugby union right now as an enjoyable spectator sport. Very little joy in the game.

    But how to stop the diving?

  38. mickydidit89 says:

    Superb GN5 (and GiE) thank you.

    Quick question, will out and out wingers be included in the Forwards section? We’ve had Left Half’s and The Bobby type but not the Overmars/Marwood sort.

    Am really hoping to find an Oldie this week.

  39. mickydidit89 says:

    Wow GiE
    Your points concept is most interesting.

  40. RockyLives says:

    GiE
    You should expand that as a Post. Great idea.

    Then you can lean on it and have a ciggie 🙂

    Seriously… I think that would be an excellent debating piece.

  41. mickydidit89 says:

    Just watching Chas’ fantastic clip at 5:37 may have answered my own question, but, does Bastin count as a Winger?

    He’s introduced as an Outside Left, and what with being record goalscorer, that must be some going for a non-striker.

  42. mickydidit89 says:

    GiE

    And -10 points for a team with 11 players in their own half for more than 15 mins of a game 🙂

  43. GunnerN5 says:

    GIE,

    I’m going to have to give your points system a lot of thought. While I agree with encouraging attack minded football. I have a nagging concern that it will unjustly reward the richer/stronger teams to the detriment of the poorer/weaker teams.

    I like the idea of you dedicating a post to the subject.

  44. GunnerN5 says:

    MD89,

    The profiles were not based on specific positions, but there are a few wingers in the mix.

  45. Ian Ure Face says:

    There is an interesting programme on BBC 3 tonight @ pm called Football`s Suicide Secret.
    It may shed some light on to the unexplained tragic suicide of Gary Speed.
    Clarke Carlyle ( PFA chairman ) the presenter/narrator himself tried to commit suicide !. It will probably be about a main culprit…depression, it`s indiscriminate. Old, young, race, religion, rich or poor is irrelevant. Depression is an illness as much as any other illness. Some cant think rationally and many think their loved ones will be better off without them and it may be hard to detect and diagnose that these normal looking people are suffering until it is too late !.
    Sorry to depress you all, but thought it may take your mind off our depressing TW activity !. ( no puns intended )

    PS

    Thanks GN5 & GIE for the long running saga of quality !.

  46. Gooner In Exile says:

    It was at grow it out there idea…but if I get time and if once Arsene signs all the attacking talent in the world we are still faced with a double decker….I’ll write it.

    CotS – the diving is easy it’s just the FA hide behind FIFA directive that has a caveat, the caveat is largely ignored. It states that where a clear error has occurred the refs decision can be overturned. So all this “referee saw it” “referee dealt with it” is absolute bollocks. I guess the problem is two relegation threatened teams on last day, penalty given and defender red carded, referee has acted so FA will not change decision. But if they did and TV evidence showed the dive they would then have possibility of replaying the match or redressing the financial balance for the unfairly relegated team.

  47. Gooner In Exile says:

    At grow = a throw

  48. evonne says:

    ey? at grow = a throw?? in what language ?

    A Spud told me today that it has been confirmed that the simian is staying at WHL for another year. I told him that if he is so sure of it, he can promise to wear Arsenal shirt for a weekend if Bale leaves. He said he’d rather cut his wrists. That will do 🙂 one spud less 🙂

    Funny how many people are doubting that AW has actually made a bid for Suarez. Unbelievable or what?

  49. Gooner In Exile says:

    I doubt it….but then that’s maybe because for the last few weeks we’ve apparently made an offer for Higuain, and now Perez says no offer received. Can’t believe what you read!

    Although personally reading between lines and knowing agents I think there is a bit of a merry go round waiting and we are just agreeing price for Chamakh to the Dippers and we’ll then see Suarez to Madrid, Higuain to us.

    In truth though I think Perez is trying to play hardball, he provably wants Suarez but Dippers are probably asking more than we are offering for Higuain.

    Why would Suarez move to another PL team?

  50. GunnerN5 says:

    GIE,

    My stance is – I believe nothing until I see it on Arsenal.com.

  51. Gooner In Exile says:

    Agreed GN5…sanest way to cope with the window and saves a lot of worrying about who we didn’t allegedly sign.

  52. mickydidit89 says:

    GN5 and GIE

    You’re both way too mature. “Grow Down” a little and join the fun 🙂
    Right, who are we signing today then?

  53. mickydidit89 says:

    Here are some professional surfers. I shall take any comments referring to their physicality as insulting and sexist.

  54. chas says:

    Nice tubes

  55. mickydidit89 says:

    Bloody hell Chas, I’d watch it if I were you. That Evonne will be along any minute and she’s a supporter of lesbianism and shit like that. She’ll ‘av you she will. Sexist pig.

  56. LB says:

    GIE

    Great logic in your 10:20, well almost, the Chamakh to the Dippers suggestion is just plain wishful thinking. lol

  57. LB says:

    Ok just one more viewing of the surfing clip.

  58. chas says:

    “the day I punched a lesbian”

  59. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    Must take up surfing though not much wave action in Denmark.

    Still no kelsey. Worrying as he normally appears when mentioning the hirsute old man

  60. Big Raddy says:

    chas 😀 😀

  61. Gooner In Exile says:

    LB I realised my mistake with Chamakh, it’s actually Bendtner they are after.

  62. Big Raddy says:

    I am still thinking about LB’s post and Fellaini.

    I have concluded that we are more in need of a striker than a MF, and here is why …

    The final run-in last season.

    IMO Ramsey, who let us remember is only 22 y.o. developed into the Flamini-type player we have been looking for. My expectation is that AFC under Mr Wenger will continue to play with Arteta as the deep lying MF (not a DM).

    Once JW returns to fitness (if ever) Ramsey will be MA’s understudy until he takes over the role.

    Then there is the challenge of finding a role for The Ox, who must break into the team next season.

    That said, the loan of Coquelin and Diaby’s squad no. relegation indicates that a MF is on his way.

    mmmm could be a post in here, but no time!

  63. Gooner In Exile says:

    There is a good interview with Jenkinson on Arseblog from kit launch yesterday, Arsenal appear to be reaching out to the bloggers and granted an interview to Gingers4Limpar, LittleDutchVA (Tim Stillman), Arseblog and another site/blogger I’m not familiar with.

    Arseblog concludes that it was like sitting down the pub with a fan.

    Few points covered, his competition with Sagna, and the work Bould did with the defence last season (from day 1 of his arrival on the coaching staff to the end of the season).

  64. evonne says:

    I didn’t punch a lesbian, but her pregnant husband, there.

  65. mickydidit89 says:

    T-shirts for everyone:
    “My Mate Evonne punched a pregnant lezzo”

  66. evonne says:

    sex maniacs
    Peaches – the girl in the surfing clip is called Alana, hm

  67. evonne says:

    you wouldn’t be laughing Mr Didit if you knew how much you (and other taxpayers) paid for that pregnancy

  68. evonne says:

    Cavani to PSG and Flamini back in EPL – I hope he goes to spurs so we can boo him each time he touches the ball

  69. mickydidit89 says:

    T-shirts for everyone:
    “I paid to get a Lezzo pregnant”

  70. Big Raddy says:

    I make a legitimate football comment and all you want to do is laugh about lezzers. Bloody typical 😀

  71. evonne says:

    sorry Raddy, but there is so little football until women start in Sweden. They are not lesbians, are they ?

  72. evonne says:

    BR @7:43 – excellent comment! I completely agree, we have very strong midfield. Rooney and Higuain would be much more useful. Throw in a goalie and a defender and we can start celebrating outside the Isligton town hall

  73. mickydidit89 says:

    Raddy

    The early morning bloggers on this site are juvenile, irresponsible good time Charlies

    I couldn’t agree more with your sentiments. This is a football site for goodness sake.

    Jeepers, some people.

  74. evonne says:

    DidIt, you are shameless.

  75. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Good morning to you all,

  76. Norfolk Gooner says:

    If you think there are some dodgy results in football, here’s the proof.

    Four Nigerian football teams have been suspended after crucial play-off matches ended in “scandalous scorelines” of 79-0 and 67-0.

    Plateau United Feeders and Police Machine FC went into their matches level on points, with promotion to the lowest tier of the Nationwide League Division at stake.

    With both games being played at the same time, Plateau United Feeders scored 72 of their goals in the second half to beat Akurba FC 79-0, while Police Machine put 61 past Babayaro FC after half-time in their 67-0 victory.

  77. Morning

    New Post …………………….

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