What do Gunners really think about finishing 5th?

With the climax of the season approaching there can’t be a single Arsenal supporter who hasn’t considered what life would be like if we didn’t make top four.

At this point nothing is decided and all 3 of the contenders could finish in either 3rd, 4th or 5th. The polls below give you a chance to consider what life would be like for Arsenal in the Europa League.

You can relax and treat this as just a bit of fun because its not going to happen 😛

What do Gunners fear most about 5th?

What do Gunners like most about 5th?

If there is an answer you’d choose to these questions that is not listed, feel free to offer another viewpoint to debate.


199 Responses to What do Gunners really think about finishing 5th?

  1. Red Arse says:

    tenthhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!

    Yaaaaaayyyyyy …. suck that Big Al. 🙂

  2. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Yeah and this Big Al 😀

  3. charybdis1966 says:

    And this makes it a hat trick of “Suck this” for Big Al 🙂

  4. charybdis1966 says:

    And in answer to MDi89’s poser, the thing I would like most about 5th spot is that I would get to see the games on a free-to-air channel.

    I stand with Richie Benaud on his abhorrence of subscription sports channels.

  5. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Sorry to interupt Mickey but…..

    Breaking news from our Vatican Correspondent, Makitupius Tabloidus.

    A source close to the Pope’s butler’s auntie Angelina has revealed that, on the advice of Pope Emeritus Benedict, newly installed Pope Francis is to put forward Sir Alex Ferguson’s name for the fast track to Beatification.

    Subject to approval by the College of Cardinals, Ferguson who retires as Manager of an American owned football club based in Manchester at the end of the current season, will be named as Saint Alex of The Gorbals.

    It is rare for a person to become a Saint in their own lifetime but an exception will be made in this case.

    It is believed that Saint Alex will be carried from the Vatican in a throne on the backs of six of his greatest supporters, all six are reported to be members of a closed religious sect called Premiership Referees.

    Stay tuned to this website. Further news will be brought to you as soon as Auntie Angelina gets back from the launderette where she is at this moment doing the family’s weekly wash.

  6. The Cabbie says:

    4th is like 5th ,nowhere

  7. charybdis1966 says:

    You may joke Norfolk but a brown-nosing Fungiescum loving MP asked for Sir Alex to be fast tracked into the House of Lords…you can’t make this stuff up: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/sir-alex-fergusons–1000-3564542

  8. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Chary, if that happens let’s hope Scotland gets it’s independence, we can then kick the plum nosed Gorbalian back over the border along with many of his fellow countrymen who clutter up so many of our English Institutions like Parliament, the House of Lords and the BBC.

  9. LB says:

    This is a bit difficult as I have never considered for even a milli second (untill reading above) that we would not finish above spuds.

  10. Red Arse says:

    The thing I would like least about finishing 5th, apart from the list above, is that all the “I-told-you-so” merchants would constantly fanny around saying; “I told you so”! Bastards!!

  11. charybdis1966 says:

    Haha Norfolk, too true although I’d keep Champagne Charlie Nicholas – the only scot to love our club. A top sweaty.

  12. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Good morning to you all, in the case of Big Al good early evening.

    There is nothing I like about the idea of coming fifth. We would be better off avoiding the Thursday Night Loser’s League altogether.

    Participation in TNLL would not attract the kind of big name signings we need, nor would it guarantee the retention of our best players.

    Crowds would be significantly reduced for Thursday evening matches, who will want to pay the usual inflated prices to watch the third and fourth rate teams on offer?

    Without the added fixtures we would stand a much better chance of taking one of the real prizes in English football, the Premiership Title or the FA Cup.

  13. Manthan says:

    Nice Post Mate!!

    Main problem I think if we don’t finish in top 4 will be getting star players next year. Because if we are going for Jovetic or any other star player their minimum requirement will be Playing CL. Because of this reason Arsene tells Making to CL is also a trophy. We can lure players by providing them chance to play in CL.

    But after yesterdays match everything is in our hands now. Wigan defense is very weak if we can take benefit of that we can be in TOP 4.

  14. mickydidit89 says:

    My biggest fear has always been a dramatic drop in revenue from Corporate.

    However, and this is based on nothing more than gut feeling, I hope that our spending policy for the summer may already be in place irrespective of where we end up.

    I don’t go with the “can’t buy quality” line that CL offers, and I also think that adding two star players may keep the corporate bums on their seats (except for the ten minutes on either side of half time!).

  15. charybdis1966 says:

    Great to have our (4th place) destiny back in our own hands isn’t it Manthan ?

    That’s why the spiral of negativity will be rife in the N17 swamps right now. 🙂

  16. mickydidit89 says:

    Sorry Manthan,
    Was still typing as you mentioned players needs of CL Football.
    I think a large enough weekly envelope usually does the trick 🙂

  17. mickydidit89 says:

    Also, from a selfish point of view, those living far away will really struggle with so many Sunday and Monday delayed games.

  18. Manthan says:


    Yes At least we are dependent on our self. If we win last match we qualify as simple as that :D. NO need of looking at other result our destiny is fully in our hand for now. 😛

  19. mickydidit89 says:

    I like the way the voting is going

  20. mickydidit89 says:

    True. Win our own and no need to look around, but, Villa beat Chavs and third is on.

  21. Manthan says:


    large weekly envelope will surely do the trick but we will never pay ridiculous salary and transfer to players like chesky,citheh and QPR do 😀 😛 Samba is getting 90k :-O ..

  22. Manthan says:


    3rd or 4th anything is fine with me 😀 😀 . .

  23. Manthan says:

    I mean Transfer fee 😉

  24. mickydidit89 says:

    Grab players towards the end of their contracts and the transfer fee can be sensible, then splash it on wages.
    I think the Theo deal points the way forward, and there are plenty of good players around even once City and Chelski have had their pick. Isn’t that right LB? 🙂

  25. Manthan says:

    IF Moyes leaves Everton who will replace him Martinez is a good option????

  26. LB says:

    Yes Micky.

    But it isn’t just City and Chelsea, next season it will be those two, plus Manu, PSG and Bayern all capable of paying higher wages than us. So no easy task trying to find talent after that lot have had first dibs.

  27. mickydidit89 says:

    LB 🙂
    Nothing is easy, with the possible exception of falling off a bike!

  28. mickydidit89 says:

    Villa have a good striker. Pool as well 🙂
    QPR and Toon have one or two useful players, and let me think, who else outside the top four……. oh yes, Spuds 🙂

  29. Rasp says:

    Thanks Micky, the thing I would hate most would be that we had paid the price for not paying the price … if you know what I mean 😕

  30. Manthan says:

    What about Cesc coming back to arsnal?? I think it just a rumour

  31. Spursday should stay Spursday, Couldn’t bear an Arseday.

  32. mickydidit89 says:

    I have to say, that on every occasion I’ve been to The Emirates in recent seasons, at some point I think to myself: “Jeepers, let’s just come 5th once, and lose some of these twats”.
    Not going to happen I know.

  33. Rasp says:

    This talk of AW being at odds with the Board/other management over a choice between Remy (lightweight average prem striker) or Bony (potential goalscoring beast) seems highly unlikely. Who is it that claims to have the footballing knowledge other than AW – or maybe its just that Bony may be cheaper therefore a financial judgement?

  34. LB says:

    As some may know I am not a huge Giroud fan, (he lacks close control) I think I was the first to describe him as a French Andy Carrol without a pony tail but then Andy Carrol had that cut off!

    The interesting thing to me was that after watching the game last night I was surprised to realise that I would not swap him for Torres.

    I really didn’t think there was a great deal of difference in their level of talent.

    Irritatingly, Torres has an air of a player who thinks he has a divine right to succeed, where as Ollie may be accused of many things but not giving his all for the team has never been one of them.

  35. Kev says:

    Come on arsenal forget the other games and win our last two games so that we can tempt top players to our club it’s all down to our players now arsenal we trust come on

  36. LB says:


    “As easy as falling off a bike”

  37. mickydidit89 says:

    If Arsenal win 2/2, that only leaves 3 who can win the Didit Quizz.
    4 points (ie 71 total) and only 7 possible winners.
    And that is based on AFC totals alone. Throw other two into the mix and we’re probably down to a couple max.

  38. LB says:

    I forgot the word “Not”

    Ollie works like a trojan for the team is what I was trying to say.

  39. arsenal fc says:

    What we think is that it musnt happen. 5th position would be disastruous

  40. Belfastgooner says:

    On a different note would someone with influence amend that table regarding league projected outcomes please. It was updated on the 6th. The figures are wrong as we’re now on 67 pts with a +1 over last year. We’re on the up!

  41. mickydidit89 says:

    Ollie and Torres in a 4-4-2 Mmmmmm
    4-4-2 is off the menu I know, but, players like those work best with players like the other

  42. Rasp says:

    Thanks Belfast, I’m afraid we won’t be able to amend that chart until later in the day.

    If you look at the chart that compares the fixtures like for like with last year, you will see that we lost at home to Wigan and drew away at Newcastle and therefore would only pick up 1 point if this season’s results go the same way 😦

  43. mickydidit89 says:

    Thing is Rasp, both Wigan and Newcastle are considerably rubbishier than wot they were last season.
    Happily 🙂

  44. Kev says:

    Our players has got to be up for it and make it happened and win the last two games if they don’t you can only blame the players for not getting fourth place and not the manager so come on arsenal

  45. charybdis1966 says:

    I’m going to the Wigan game – there’d better not be a repeat of last years calamity – I was there for that also and did not like it !

  46. mickydidit89 says:

    I thought you said you were going to the Meathead Concert, or was it Saxonloaf?

  47. kgooner says:

    Hello all yes gooners across the globe!

    I voted “Revised spending policy from The Club”

    For the 2nd, i felt there wasn’t a choice for me. What i think of fifth?

    An opportunity! An opportunity to play football without the pressures of a champions league stage. Relaxed and players can explore their potential. These players look like they need to play 10 games where the result doesn’t matter (at least that much financially). It would build their confidence and they would learn to play with each other, spot each other’s passes and runs and through crosses. . .there are gains to be made. Oh, all those ‘glory’ fans would leave and instead a proper fan base. It wouldn’t be the end of the world.
    This is where my first vote comes in, i am not sure the club would continue to cut back on spending because of the Champs league money lost. That’s what I am afraid off. We can spend prudently in the Europa League and build a solid time. PL would become the main title to contend for and we would make the league Ultra competitive by virtue of our lack of CL football on the highest level.

  48. Belfastgooner says:

    Thanks Micky sorry I didnt quite understand how the table worked. It will have a much happier look in 2 weeks:)

  49. Belfastgooner says:

    My eyesight’s failing thanks+ Rasp

  50. Manthan says:


    I agree with didit. . wigan and Toons both are looking rubbish this season.. I had seen wigan vs Swans believe me the defensive error wigan made was really funny they gifted goals to swans. and Newcastle is also that good. Totts have stoke next which will tough Pulis will play for draw… one funny thing I find about toons is Mike ashely gave 10 years contract for padrew after one good season and now he will be regretting 😀 😛 😛

  51. Red Arse says:


    I posted that article from the daily Star, yesterday, about AW and ‘the Board’ being at loggerheads, but don’t believe it for a moment.

    The only Board Director who outranks AW is Kroenke, and he is hardly likely to contradict AW’s choice of player, as what does he know about ‘soccer players’ — ditto for the other non-footballing Directors such as Gazidis and Friar.

    My own hope is that AW lifts his sights a bit and aims for a real marquee signing, rather than the economy or ‘value pack’ player.
    We have had enough of them in the past few years.

  52. Red Arse says:

    My concern is that although pessimism is a non productive and indeed corrosive feeling, and not to be encouraged when discussing the last two games, but so too is over confidence when discussing our chances against Wigan and Newcastle.

    Football does not work that predictably, and that is why it is so nerve tingling for many of us, and with all combinations of results still possible.

    Stay Calm — and Support The Gunners!! 😀

  53. Rasp says:

    Thanks RA, I take your point about pessimism being non productive which is why I was surprised when no-one made the same point when we debated re-signing Theo earlier in the week. Was it you who admitted to not being his greatest fan? 😆

    I was grateful to Micky for this offering as the cupboard was bare (we have nothing for tomorrow) and that is why I added the opening paragraph ending with ‘You can relax and treat this as just a bit of fun because its not going to happen 😛 ‘

  54. Big Raddy says:

    RA. I agree about the marquee signing. Bale would be good.

    & I finally read your fine FFP post which was illuminating and surprisingly understandable 😀

    The future is bright ….

  55. GoonerB says:

    Norfolk and Manthan at 10.14 and 10.20 respectively echo my feelings on not getting 4th spot. The only thing I would add is that for those AA’ers who are not amongst the happily retired or living overseas, the humiliation is always worse. For those fans that still live and work in and around the North London and suburb areas, the pain of having to frequently look at Spud work colleagues looking back at you with smug grins would be intolerable. Those of you that don’t have to entertain frequent contact with spud fans, will get away with this humiliating experience.

    I would be interested from the AA’ers who are still working in the North london area on whether they feel the same on this point. It is the main reason why I wasn’t pleased with what Szczesny said recently about Spurs not being good enough Those of you from further afield may think “good on you Chezzer” but I just thought “Oh no, why did you have to say that? If it all goes tits up now the smug spud grins and sneaky remarks will be even worse”.

    He will not have to tolerate this himself but the poor North London working gooners will get serious stick about what he said if they end up above us.

  56. Red Arse says:

    Hi GoonerB, 🙂

    Aren’t you ‘yelling’ before you have been hit?

    In all the years since AW took over, and for years prior to that too (I have not checked my facts) 🙂 the Spuds have never finished above us.

    I would have thought the Spurs fans would have more cause to think “bugger — finished behind those smug bastards again!” 😀

    You are right about Chezzer and his unfortunate remark – unnecessary and pointlessly making us a hostage to fortune.

  57. Big Raddy says:

    Gooner B. Who can remember that far back??

  58. Manthan says:


    I agree with point about Chezzer he should’nt have told that now once we finish above them he could have. Its too early and if spurs finish above us for sure there will many spurs grins.

  59. Red Arse says:

    Rasp, my esteemed friend, 😀
    I did indeed express my reservations about Theo.

    I did not see that comment as pessimism, or being overly critical (not that you said that last bit), it’s just that being coolly analytical, and leaving aside my natural wish to big up our players to outsiders, I am of the opinion that we do have a number of players, Theo, Gerv, Santos, Pod etc, that just do not ‘tick’ the boxes for me, and join others like Bendtner, Denilson and Squillaci.

    Just an observation, but I recognise that others will have different views. 🙂

  60. Red Arse says:


    Thank you for your kind comment at 12:25. 🙂

  61. RockyLives says:

    Good fun Micky – thanks.
    As I was scrolling down the options I read “revised spending…” And thought “that’s the one!” Then I read the option underneath (about the neighbours) and realized that that was the one I really didn’t want to experience!

  62. RockyLives says:

    I slotted one in the bomb bay on Monday.

  63. GunnerN5 says:


    In answer to your (unasked) question the last time Spurs finished above Arsenal was in 1994/5 when they finished 7th and we finished 12th. (yes you AW detractors that was life just before the great man arrived)

    In the 20 seasons from 1992/3 to 2011/12 the record for the top London club has been—

    Arsenal top 11 times
    Chelsea 7
    Spurs 2.

  64. Rasp says:

    Hi Rocky, really sorry, it must have evaded me, would you be OK with a Friday slot?

  65. Red Arse says:

    Thanks GN5, 🙂

    That supports my point very well, altho I admit Goonerb is closer to having to experience the Spurs fans gloating this year — but I do not think it will happen!! 😀

  66. muttley says:

    Red Arse You devious bugger, always flirting with the Wenger Out Brigade, without ever actually declaring it.

  67. RockyLives says:

    Anytime anyplace anywhere.
    Or not at all.
    You’re the boss 😀

  68. RockyLives says:

    I uploaded it after Peaches’ “plea for the week” but I didn’t mention it in comments because I didn’t want the other lazy beggars to think they were off the hook 🙂

  69. Rasp says:

    Cheers Rocky, ‘You’re the man’ 😆

  70. muttley says:

    What about the top London Club from 2003-2013 and then the top London Club from 1886-2002.

  71. GoonerB says:

    Weird, I posted a couple of comments earlier that don’t seem to have made it through. One was about your 11.58 comment Redders. Never mind.

  72. Gooner In Exile says:

    I have voted….lose the whingers, and the one about that lot taking our place.

    I’m all for considering the possibility, but then I just shake my head and laugh at the ridiculousness of imagining them finishing above us.

    St Totts gets far later which we need to address next season, it should always be something to smile about in March/April.

  73. Red Arse says:

    Oh, Go on GB, what did you say? 🙂

  74. Rasp says:

    Hi GoonerB, I’ve checked in moderation, trash and spam and there are none of your comments pending … they must have been swallowed up in some way we can’t detect – apologies

  75. GoonerB says:

    Redders, re. the worry about finishing below Spurs i am just a bit superstitious about being over confident and into bragging mode and it back-firing. I am still confident in our boys to do it but would rather be quietly confident.

    I agreed with your view that it was unlikely that anyone else at Arsenal would undermine AW in a decision between 2 players. I believe it was about Bony and Remy and in a nutshell I was saying that Bony had great stats and looked physically imposing but from the footage I have seen looked a bit cumbersome and slow to me. I was wondering whether he could translate what he is doing in the Dutch league to the EPL or whether he would not be mobile enough against better defenders to tear it up at the top end of the EPL? I was hoping some Holland based fans could give a greater perspective on him.

    Remy on the other hand doesn’t have as good goal-scoring stats but looks to have the right blend of power pace and technique. I have been quietly impressed in the bits I have seen of him for QPR, and I like it that he seems to be able to get his shot off quickly if defenders are closing in and he doesn’t have much time. He would represent a gamble (quality wise) over a more proven goal-scorer like Cavani, Falcao or Lewadowski but could he be a late blossomer and be on the verge of becoming a 25+ a season striker, especially at a creative side like ours, or will he always be in the next tier down from these 3.

  76. GoonerB says:

    No probs Rasp, I think it was a computer glitch. I am actually on a different one now.

  77. Red Arse says:


    I agree with all that you say @ 2:02.

    I have only seen a few snippets of Bony (who would, of course, bugger off every 2 years to the ANC) and he looks a bit overweight and sluggish from what I can see.

    Remy looks OK but a bit ‘middle of the road’ to me, and after Chamakh, Parker, and to an extent Pod and Giro, I was rather hoping AW would look to Jovetic (another small’un) or Lewandowski.

    I cannot see the club buying two more forwards, as well as keeping Giro, but to restore the club’s credibility in the eyes of the fans, it is not enough to say we are now ‘financially competitive’, it is essential that AW walks the walk and not just talks the talk!

  78. Red Arse says:

    I am not too proud, and I admit I am having to recycle my jokes.
    As you have all gone quiet again, here goes nothing;

    Have you ever been in a bar while staying at a fancy hotel on business, and fantasized about chatting to the gorgeous woman sitting on her own. [no, not that type of gorgeous woman] 🙂

    This stunning woman was sitting in just such a bar, and having already downed a few power drinks, she turned around, faced this guy, looked him straight in the eye and said;
    “Listen here, good looking, I screw anybody, any time, anywhere, your place, my place, in the car, front door, back door, on the ground, standing up, sitting down, naked or with clothes on, dirty or clean.
    It doesn’t matter to me. I’ve been doing it ever since I got out of college and I just love it.”

    Eyes now wide with interest, the tall, good looking stranger responded, “No kidding. I’m a lawyer too. What firm are you with?”

    I was saving that for 26M — where he anyhoo? 🙂

  79. RockyLives says:

    Now that I’m at my desk at work, I just went back and read the early morning comments before the new Post was uploaded.


  80. RockyLives says:


  81. RockyLives says:

    I’ll be happy to lose the Didit quiz, as I can only win if we score no more points 😦

  82. RockyLives says:

    Blimey, I just read that Mark Hughes is in the frame for the Everton job. The Toffees can’t be that stupid, can they?

  83. RockyLives says:

    Bloggus posterius expellimus

  84. RockyLives says:

    *no, it’s not from Harry Potter

  85. GoonerB says:

    What about Rooney Redders? Do you think he would complete our forward line and bring it up to the world class bracket, and would you have him at Arsenal?

  86. RockyLives says:

    Do you ever notice how this blog sometimes turns into a series of one-person discussions.

    Which gives me the pleasantly comforting feeling of residing in a nuthouse with fellow loons 🙂

  87. RockyLives says:

    Dammit GoonerB, you interrupted me talking to myself!

  88. RockyLives says:

    I think Redders won’t mind me answering on his behalf:

    “GoonerB, in response to your missive @3.00 of the post meridian, I estimate that the contribution, or non-contribution, of the designated individual would be either beneficial, counterproductive or somewhere on the spectrum of betterment. However, given the relative proclivities of the protagonists involved (and not forgetting the antagonists) any postulating on the matter is hypothetical and ultimately inevitably entropic in its outcome. I hope that makes it clear.”

  89. ManUre.com post, then delete, a welcoming message for Mo from the Simpsons – those muppets just can’t do anything right.

    Reminds me of the time they had a welcome message for their new signing Aaron Ramsey on their website.

    They really are a bunch of melts as they’ve done this two other times, with Ozil and Khedira. Arrogant front bottoms.

    SirAlex may be going but there is still plenty to dislike about Salford FC.

  90. Red Arse says:

    Rocky, 😀


    As you can see, Rocky has, in his quietly effective way, articulated a response on my behalf, and conveyed, with exquisite exactitude, what he surmised was the very essence of my innermost thought processes on the matter to hand, and expressed them in such a way that their verisimilitude cannot be doubted, and I hope we have both had our quest for knowledge on the procurement of Rooney satiated!

    Of course, I did not understand one iota of his misconceived promulgation on the status of my mindset concerning the said Liverpudlian! 🙂

  91. mickydidit89 says:


    “Do you ever notice how this blog sometimes turns into a series of one-person discussions.”
    Errr, yes I do. Chatting away merrily to myself for an hour or more in the morning is often par for the course.

    Loon? Moi? Not if I keep up with the medication.

  92. mickydidit89 says:

    Loved your joke this morning. I had left at that point, and was sitting in a car park with tears in me eyes

  93. mickydidit89 says:

    Utd could install that Mother Theresa Bloke and you’d still show the same amount of love towards that lot.
    Never stop. We need you 🙂

  94. Red Arse says:

    Some years ago, Rocky, Rasp, and BR accepted my invitation to visit NYC to experience Labor Day weekend.

    We were hard up, and decided to save money, as we were somewhat impecunious, by sleeping two to a room..

    This is written in the strictest confidence, so keep schtum about it, but no one wanted to room with Rocky, because he snored so loudly.
    The rest of us decided it wasn’t fair for the same person to stay with Rocky every night, so we agreed to take turns.

    Rasp slept in the room with the Rockmeister on the first night and came down to breakfast the next morning with his hair all a mess and his eyes all bloodshot.

    BR and I whispered to him, ‘Man, what happened to you?’ and Rasp said, ‘Rocky snored so loudly, I just sat up and watched him all night, because I could not sleep.’

    The next night it was BR’s turn. In the morning, he arrived for breakfast with hair all dishevelled, and his eyes all blood-shot.
    Rasp and I whispered, ‘Man, what happened to you? You look absolutely awful!’ BR replied, ‘Man, that Rockadidleyl! He shook the roof, and I could not sleep, so I just watched him all night.’

    The third night it was my turn. The next morning I went down to breakfast bright-eyed and curly tailed.
    ‘Good morning,’ I greeted Rasp and BR and they couldn’t believe their eyes!

    They said to me, ‘Man, what happened?’

    ‘Well’, I said, ‘after chatting about footie, we decided to turn in, but before switching out the light, I went across to Rocket’s bed and tucked him in, wished him good night, and kissed him on the cheek ….. He sat up all night, and kept a careful watch on me!!!’

    That’s the way to do it!! 😀

  95. Rasp says:

    😆 Redders

  96. RockyLives says:

    Redders 🙂
    I’m still mentally scarred 🙂

  97. charybdis1966 says:

    I’ve been traumatised for life by those ManUre melts, Mdi89.

    So who;s going to the Wigan game then ?.

    My younger son will be there as well as a nephew I am trying to indoctrinate into the ways of the Arsenal.

    How about an AA end of season dinner ?

    Or maybe we could save that for the close season as a bit of a social do.

  98. GoonerB says:

    Rocky and R.A, I have just popped back on to some great ROLFING from your comments about Rooney.

    I am going to take the line that you would love to have him at Arsenal and will appoint you both as his official spokes-persons when he arrives. I have formulated an opening media gambit that you can deliver on his behalf :

    “We here at Arsenal Football club would like to welcome the right honourable Rooney to said institution. We would like to state that no agent or devotee of said institution has ever in the past, or ever will in the future, provide mockery upon the disposition or reputation of said individual, particularly in the arena of any slanderous indication about said individuals penchance for the exceedingly antiquated effeminate members of the species of the genus Homos, that it is reputed may require a level of renumeration for the rendering of certain services. Further we would like to state that any indication that the right honourable Rooney bears any congruity to any rotund mythical figures of the aquamarineish hue, that have been popularised in the cherished global arena of animation within the moving pictures enterprise, to be an abominable calumny that no devotee or agent of said institution have or ever will allude to”.

    And round it off with a collective :

    “We love you Rooney we do, we love you Rooney we do…………and repeat.

  99. Red Arse says:

    You are the very man, CharyB.

    I was convinced that the Peronis you are allegedly fond of were from an Italian brewery called Nasturi.

    I remember telling you of a visit I made to Italy where I asked for a Peroni, only to be met with bafflement, until I saw the beer bottle on a shelf showed the name ‘Nasturi’ in large letters, and only in teeny weeny writing did the label mention Peroni.

    Now, I have learned that that Peroni is brewed, bottled and sold by an Australian company, which probably explains why it is so rough!

    If that does not put you off your Peroni beer, nothing will …….. OK, OK, nothing will, then! 😀

    [Disclaimer: I get nothing for advertising PERONI beer so frequently!]

  100. Red Arse says:


    I am sure Rocky would be happy to put his name to that massive missive. (He isn’t too good at spelling!!) 😀

    Me? Not so much!! 😀

  101. RockyLives says:

    That’s genius 🙂

  102. Red Arse says:

    I understand Moyes has been confirmed as the new Manure coach on a 6 year deal!

  103. mickydidit89 says:

    RA @ 4:35 🙂
    Rocky, Scarred? You still waiting for the main event aren’t you!

  104. mickydidit89 says:

    “rotund mythical figures of the aquamarineish hue” HA HA

  105. GoonerB says:

    Thank-you Rocky. The only difference is that your good self and Mr redders probably roled your comments out in 30 seconds from memory. Me? I started that at about 9.30 this morning and my thesaurus now looks all dog-eared.

  106. RockyLives says:

    I don’t mind Moyes, but I bet he won’t last more than two years at the Old Toilet.

    Sh… Redders might be listening…

  107. Red Arse says:

    Stop being modest, GB, I am happy to admit you taught me the little I know!! 😀

  108. Red Arse says:

    Nope, can’t hear a word, Rocky, my keyboard is dumb!! 🙂

  109. RockyLives says:

    How about getting Cesc and Rooney this summer 🙂

  110. mickydidit89 says:

    He hears absolutely everything. Listening devices like french horns that darned American has. He has.

  111. Red Arse says:

    Looking back at my notes , GB, I see you started me out with the following ditty;

    The common cormorant or shag
    Lays eggs inside a paper bag
    The reason you will see no doubt
    It is to keep the lightning out
    But what these unobservant birds
    Have never noticed is that herds
    Of wandering bears may come with buns
    And steal the bags to hold the crumbs.

    You never did explain it to me, which probably is why I made up my own story from your second effort;

    There was a young fellow named Menzies
    Whose kissing sent girls into frenzies
    But a virgin one night
    Crossed her legs in a fright
    And fractured his bi-focal lenses.

    Seeing is believing! 🙂

  112. mickydidit89 says:

    Much as I loathe the “aquamarineish hued” one, he is good and has fire in his belly.

    When we were playing Utd, I nearly had one of those keyboard durrr moments. I was about to say how rubbish I thought he was, when he turned a player, then outside booted an inch perfect thirty yarder.

    Also, pre-brave, his goalscoring record was top notch.

  113. GoonerB says:

    Excellent R.A. I had a similar Limerick to your second one but it was far more basic and not put in nearly such a cultured way.

  114. mickydidit89 says:

    Am I right in thinking that Shrek and Moyes are far from bezzie mates?

  115. Big Raddy says:

    200k a week? Good player but not worth the money.

    For that kind of wedge he should be a game changer like Suarez or Yaya and the Fat Manc isn’t

  116. Red Arse says:

    Agreed, Micky, but Aquamarine blue’s miscontrol led to the Chelsea goal which gave them 3 points and not one. Bastard!

  117. mickydidit89 says:

    In line with LB’s thinking about the long list of Clubs with more financial fire power than us, there is also a fairly long list of top strikers who one would expect to be on the move.

    Cavani, Rooney, Lewendowski (?), Cavanni, Suarez, Jovetic, Ronaldo…. any more?

  118. mickydidit89 says:

    Falcoa, Neymar

  119. mickydidit89 says:

    You are not crazy about him, are you Raddy 🙂
    ps did you get my email?

  120. GoonerB says:

    I agree Micky. I think that he could bring a title winning dimension to our forward line and I think he would get back to his prolific goal-scoring ways in our team.

    I think the odds are against it but if we are serious about getting a big signing in I actually think he would be more attainable for us than the likes of lewandowski, Falcao or Cavani. He may of course want to go abroad, but if he did want to stay in the country to prevent too much family upheaval then I think it would be Chelsea or ourselves that could be the best option. He would never be able to go to Liverpool or Citeh with the obvious fan reaction but Utd fans would probably not mind quite so much about us.

  121. GoonerB says:

    Micky, just a little question to yourself and others. Who out of the regulars here were Islington born and bred?

  122. mickydidit89 says:


    Personally, I’m ruling out Jovetic, as his injury record is too worrying, plus I don’t think he’s the kind of out and out goalmachine we need.

    Appetite aside, Suarez would be ideal.

  123. RockyLives says:


    BR – I humbly beg to differ. I think he’s exactly the sort of PL-proven goal scorer we need, and with good enough technique to slot right into a Wenger team.

  124. mickydidit89 says:


    Not me. Born in Brighton, then moved to West/North London.

    From memory, Rasp, Peaches, Rocky, Kelsey, dandan, LB, Raddy, GN5, err…..

  125. RockyLives says:

    I’m a Saaarf London lad. Charlton, to be precise.

  126. RockyLives says:

    But I have lived in Higbury… oh happy days.

  127. RockyLives says:

    Highbury even

  128. Sav from Australia says:

    re: Peroni

    Sorry to interject but I love talking about beer and I recently rediscovered Peroni. In Australia, the commonly avaiable Peroni is brewed here, and its…well…piss in a bottle, fermented slightly. I bought a case of 24 to make sure, and yes, it was actually piss in a bottle.

    But we also get imported Peroni from Italy, and that is quite lovely. Lesson learnt.

  129. Big Raddy says:

    RL. “humbly beg”… who are you? Uriah Heep?

    I agree that Rooney would be great for us but he carries such huge baggage (and wages).

    Micky. How dare you. True I am Norf Larndarn, but not Islington (though I lived there for decades). I am a Barnet Borough Boy.

    And yes, thanks for your email. Happy to oblige 🙂

  130. mickydidit89 says:

    When it comes to discussing quality beverages, then interject away my learned friend 🙂

  131. mickydidit89 says:

    Hair Borough?

  132. RockyLives says:

    That’s where GM should live.

  133. mickydidit89 says:

    We really cannot stick on the subject of football for very long, can we? 🙂

  134. Red Arse says:

    Sorry, Sav, I earlier accused the Aussies of owning Peroni Nasturo, the brewers of Peroni, when I meant South Africa, The clue is that they are owned by the parent company SAB Ltd, [South African Breweries] just a mental aberration!

    I agree that Peroni is a very nice beer, so CharyB tells me, but can taste ‘agricultural’ – depending on where it is bought.

    Due to factors outside my control, I am on a 2 year sabbatical, alcohol wise, which is a bummer, so I have to accept the views of those imbibers ‘in the know’. 🙂

  135. RockyLives says:

    I dunno Micky, we occasional make a little foray into the world of soccer…

  136. GunnerN5 says:

    Talking of goal scorers (who was?) TH14 scored from a spectacular
    overhead kick last night for the Red Bulls.

    And unlike Granny’s it not a lucky shin in.

    I for one would not like to see him join Arsenal and while he’s only 27, I think that his best days are behind him.

  137. GoonerB says:

    Ah Raddy, you are just down the road from me (not now obviously). I was trying to see if any of the regulars attended the same school as me which was originally located in Islington.

  138. RockyLives says:

    A two-year sabbatical from alcohol.
    Gawd… 😦

  139. Big Raddy says:

    Re: Peroni

    As a man who enjoys a drop of the heavenly elixir known as “lager”, may I assure you that Peroni which is brewed in Italy is one of the World’s finest beers.

    Think Guinness. Take a pint in the everyday English pub and it is a passable drink. Buy one in Ireland and you are drinking nectar.

    Same with Budweiser. The American version tastes of dog’s urine (so I am reliably informed) whereas the original Czech beer is a marvel.

  140. Red Arse says:

    Hair Borough?

    Did you mean GM lives in Hair Boroughush?

  141. Big Raddy says:

    GoonerB. I did time at Hendon County Grammar School 😦

  142. GunnerN5 says:


    I was not just Islington born and bred buy more specifically – Avenell Road born & Arsenal bred.

  143. Big Raddy says:

    RA 🙂

    Amazing you retain a sense of humour whilst on your enforced sobriety

  144. GunnerN5 says:

    Gooner B,

    I attended Laycock – but it was a bit of a wreck, and I skipped schools so often that when I left at 14 years old I thought that an engineer was a train driver. True story.

    You see, even at that age – Arsenal was far more important.

  145. GoonerB says:

    I like that story GN5. An original Avenell Roader!

  146. Red Arse says:

    Oi Raddy, in my past life I greatly admired a stone cold Budweiser, thank you, but never having tried dog’s urine, I will have to take that under advisement. 🙂

    The Czech beer is from two original companies Budweiser Budvar and there is an ongoing ‘names’ dispute with the American brewer Anheuser the owners of Budweiser.

    The American beer was originally brewed by Czech emigres, from rice etc in the US, whereas the Czech Budvar is made from barley, and they taste quite different, as I recall — the Czech is best! 🙂

    This is from some abstract memory and may be bollix!! 😀

  147. Nick says:

    No way is Rooney coming to Arsenal. He’ll be off to PSG to get a pay rise.

    My guess is he found out Moyes was taking over 2 weeks ago, hence the transfer request.

    Today Moyes is indeed confirmed manager and Rooney burns his bridges like RVP.

  148. chas says:

    I voted for the top answer in the first poll and the second top answer in the second.

    My London history is
    0- 6 months…… Croydon
    6 months to 2.5 years…… Canonbury Place, Highbury
    2.5 years onwards……… Edmonton

    Does this make me a spud?
    My Dad’s Arsenal gene runs so powerfully through my body that I think I’d have been a Gooner even if I’d lived in Addis Ababa.

  149. mickydidit89 says:

    Much of those beer/guinness variations are down to the water.
    London/Thames water is disgusting.
    Maybe Liffy Water is less processed and chlorinated.

  150. Big Raddy says:

    Micky. It was such a surprise to taste the real thing

    chas = spud 😀

  151. mickydidit89 says:

    As someone who has to travel, I expected “your sort” to vote number 2 in the second poll. Despite being one of “your sort” myself, I still voted that getting the twats out of the stadium would be more beneficial 🙂

    So, you’d expect Arsenal to “up” the spending allowance if we ended 5th? I have a feeling it has been “upped” no matter where we end up. Gut feeling, nothing more.

  152. Big Raddy says:

    No-one can compete with Gn5 for bloodline!

  153. mickydidit89 says:

    Back in the day, Guinness was my winter bevvy, German/Czech for the cold yellow summer refresher, while Belgian stuff brewed by Monks for he mid-ranging brown.

    Was a ponce. Still am 🙂

  154. Gooner In Exile says:

    My Dad was raised between the Globe and Tollington Arms.

    So I am Islington born once removed 🙂

    I unfortunately was raised in the Spud heartland of Enfield.

  155. Gooner In Exile says:

    I tend not to drink lager these days and avoid Guinness, but last resort in Tavern tend to go for the black stuff.

    I generally like my beer to taste of something.

    Heartily recommend Brewdog Punk IPA

  156. mickydidit89 says:

    Nope, no local Arsenal blood whatsoever.
    Mind you, I chose to be a Gunner at the age of ten, which was just before I began drinking, and shows what a bright young creature I once was.

  157. mickydidit89 says:

    That’s not the whole truth is it?
    I have seen you outside the Tavern with one of each in either hand 🙂

  158. Red Arse says:

    On one of my trips to Dublin, on some boring software development project, the mitigating event was being invited by the charming hosts for a tour of the St James’ Gate, Guinness brewery.

    Fantastic! I could smell the place from a mile away!

    A year later I went to the Guinness Brewery in Park Royal, and that was wonderful too.
    Then they closed it. Hope it was not too much drink and the commensurate farting!! 😳

  159. Red Arse says:

    Phew, Micky, I am glad you clarified that GIE had one of each, in either hand.

    Two in one hand, or two on his todger would have been some feat — or feet (?) this is getting complicated again.

  160. RockyLives says:

    I’ve spent many happy, fuzzy hours in the Guinness brewery in Dublin.

    Before they “modernised” the visitor centre, the tour ended up at a little (tiny) bar, where – if you played your cards right – you could get four or five pints of the stuff “on the house.”

  161. mickydidit89 says:

    You had an insider Rocky.

  162. chas says:

    My answers were corresponding to the ranking of the answers in each poll not their relative positions in the layout of the poll.
    In other words………..

    The fact that our neighbours would take our place in the CL and its implications.


    The fact that some of the Grove Whingers would bugger off and support a Club with more ambition.

    Any clearer?
    Finances bore me stupid. I’d never vote for one of those options. 🙂

  163. chas says:

    six doughnuts on his todger

  164. mickydidit89 says:

    I knew for certain that I could count on your vote regarding the buggering whingers.

  165. chas says:

    This is for GM and chary 🙂

  166. RockyLives says:

    Actually I did Micky.

    It’s a long story but… I used to spend a lot of lost weekend’s in Dublin with my best mate. Although an Englishman through and through, he landed himself a Dublin girlfriend whose Dad was leader of one of the Irish political parties.

    It turned out that the old boy in the Guinness visitor centre bar was a passionate supporter of her Dad’s party and when he discovered her identity (while we were chatting) we were good for as many freebies as we wanted 🙂

    Later they built a much more professional visitors centre and all visitors were given a voucher for one half of Guinness. It was probably better business, but it lost a lot of the charm. The old codger behind the bar, needless to say, did not make the transition to the new centre.

  167. chas says:

    From Facepalm

    Maggie Thatcher snuffs it, old bacon face retires and is replaced by David Moyes. Some Liverpool fan has used his three wishes well.

  168. GunnerN5 says:


    The family bloodline is extremely deep and now, at least, 100 years old when my maternal grandfather watched the first Arsenal game played at Highbury. He also took me to my first game in 1947.

    He would have been thrilled with the new location at Ashburton Grove as he lived on Stavordale Road with is one block away only –
    one street over from Drayton Park.

  169. RockyLives says:

    I’d like to claim longer roots, having been born in Woolwich… but the folks only arrived in London off the Irish ferry about 10 years before my birth…

  170. Ooooh what a lovely day’s blogging, I’ve just read the lot 😉

    I voted for Lack of Top Table Entertainment – I absolutely love Champions Lge football and ……

    Revised spending policy to get us back in it ( although I’m not sure that that would happen )

    As to Islington bloodline ……. Riversdale Road N5 until I was 6 and then Southgate beckoned but I was saved from spud-dom by a sweet young boy called Stephen Evans who insisted I had to be a Gooner because his dad was Arsenal captain Dennis Evans.

    Pretty good way to cement my goonerdom I’ve always thought 🙂

  171. GoonerB says:

    Peaches, I just knew you had deep cemented gooner DNA, and I always strongly suspected it was to do with some sweet young innocent boy, with the potential for being corrupted, that happened across your path.

  172. Gooner In Exile says:

    If you ever get to go to the Em’s with Peaches she will show you proudly the picture of Dennis on the concourse.

    GN5 do we need to add a player? 🙂

  173. Gooner In Exile says:

    Micky it is true but they are normally just pressed into my hand as one of the lightweights has decided they’ve had enough (cough chary cough) 🙂

    Much prefer the Efes served in the kebab shop.

  174. RockyLives says:

    Thinking about signing Rooney… if he played for us he would get a lot more yellow and red cards as he would no longer have the ManUre “Cloak of Immunity”.

  175. Ha ha GiE – your 9.23 is probably true.

    I asked earlier but no answers, who is going on Tuesday ?

  176. I am, I am, I am chary 😀

  177. Good stuff Peachy, I’ll have 2 young gunners with me and I’m aiming to get there for 6.15ish.

    So none of you other plastics are going then ? 🙂

  178. Gooner In Exile says:

    Tuesday was a day with no clients booked so was planning to go. But I am now booked in Colchester….no bad thing as its half way there and I’ll be done by 12’ish.

    Now if I can get train to Colchester and convince client to pick me up and take me to his site (and drop me back) I could make a very long day of it 🙂

    My car is also in repair shop so definitely can’t leave Mrs GiE without car morning and night.

  179. Gooner In Exile says:

    Just realised that idea doesn’t work because hate going to football suited and booted…..new plan needed.

  180. Gooner In Exile says:

    What’s this on Twitter about Spuds asking to use our ground while they redevelop? Surely bs, and surely we won’t let them, unless of course we charge rent keep all gate receipts and make sure they deep clean the stadium after each visit.

  181. RockyLives says:

    No way GiE
    No price is high enough to let their swamp dwellers defile our home.

  182. GunnerN5 says:

    That would be akin to your mother in law asking to move in with you!

    I heard it’s called twitter because it’s used mainly by twits.

  183. sai says:

    Biggest disappointment
    1. There will be no St, Totteringham day
    2. I’d be missing many games! 😦

  184. mickydidit89 says:

    alt gr + 4

    Just learnt that 🙂
    Sorry, Morning Sai.
    Have no fear, St Totts Day may well come this Tuesday.

  185. Red Arse says:

    Morning Folks 🙂

    Micky, what’s all this € ? Ooops, I did not know that! 🙂

  186. LB says:

    Efes is a good beer.

  187. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    Ever noticed how “are/were thought to” when added to a newspaper story allows the author to talk total cobblers?

    e.g. Arsenal are thought to be negotiating the signing ofGordon Banks as they search for a mature back-up GK for Szczesny.

  188. Red Arse says:

    Wow, Raddy, that will be a great signing!!

  189. mickydidit89 says:

    Doing a spreadsheet ahead of a meeting next week and needed the Euro symbol.

  190. Red Arse says:

    Just kidding, Micky.

    I really did not know how to do that.

    Thinking on it, I used to head up my schedules with the word, Euro, rather than the symbol, and luckily it was not required too often.

    Now I know better. 🙂

  191. sai says:

    Good morning Micky.

    A Spuds draw and a win for us would suffice, considering the goal difference we have over them. What a finish that would be!

  192. charybdis1966 says:

    Morning all, thanks for the video at 7.30pm last night Chas.
    That sums up what the media seem to be trying to do with this over the top Fergie worship.

    So, we have to be Stokies this weekend – now doesn’t that stick in everyone’s craw just a bit ?

  193. If the spuds win the pressure will be on. I can see them dropping points though.

  194. Red Arse says:

    I am quite partial to a clab’s craw, CharyB, even if Micky has trapped most of the Devon community by now! 🙂

  195. Manthan says:

    Spurs real challenge would be playing against stoke. As we stoke are very phsycial and Pulis always play negative football he plays for draw.

  196. Morning all

    New Post …………………………

  197. charybdis1966 says:

    Ha ha Redders, that Mdi89 does get around.

    As a veggie of course crabs claws are not an eating option. 🙂

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