Could Arsenal Win The League?

Hands up all those who breathed a huge sigh of relief at the end of the first 45 minutes of yesterday’s game? Moi. I say that because I think like most I didn’t have a clue what to expect. Usually, we get minor changes enabling us to have a pretty good idea of what to expect but with last season’s and this window’s signings everything seems to be up in the air making it very difficult to calculate what to expect. But at half time, I am sure you agree that we could sit back sufficiently reassured in the knowledge that Arsene has yet again gathered a squad capable of making a fist of a title challenge and just as important we could take another glug of that cold beer safe in the knowledge that this will not be one of those seasons in which spuds finish above us. Young people might think that stories of spuds finishing above us are about believable as the idea that Father Christmas really exists but what can I say?

I could go into great detail about particular passages of play but you all saw the game so you all know it was a game of two halves, the first to give Arsene and idea of who was going to start next week and the second half was to give the lesser lights a feeling that they are still needed – and they are.

As for the new boys, I shall simpy repeat what many others have already said: Cazorla is class, Podolski is a leader and fingers crossed that Giroud is the goal scoring beast that we all hope for.

Sunderland next up – can’t wait.

165 Responses to Could Arsenal Win The League?

  1. LB says:

    Well, someone had to do something.

  2. Do you run a fantasy League ?

  3. Danish Gooner says:

    Winning the league ???? Are you for real ??? We stand as much chance of winning the league as Sir Alex stands for having a sober moment.

  4. george says:

    giroud impressed me, despite podolskis goal scoring talent, i was most impressed with cazorla, the guy is just class, he ran the center of midfield and looked so calm and confident on the ball, a partner ship with arteta with link up with walcott, podolski and giroud/van persie is what i would like to see

  5. george says:

    arsenal can win the league, once the team jels and learns how to play with each other effectively. even barcelona will struggle, we just need to concentrate more on posession and accurate long balls as demonstrated fantastically by cazorla

  6. Nick says:

    I think it’s worth a punt. The most crucial thing is our players staying healthy. If we can keep our core team healthy, especially the spine of our CB, midfield and a competent strike due in Giroud/Podolski & maybe RVP is he stays. Bottom line is Cazorla was the steal of the century and we’ve conducted ourselves very ambitiously (*see that RVP!*) this summer.

    I still think we need a defender to help cover Sagna’s position till he returns. And a solid DM signing like Sahin on loan or M’Vila on permanent a basis. We’ve let that go long enough and his asking price has dropped. Go get him!

  7. LB says:


    I take it you didn’t see the game?

  8. SB says:

    We’re definitely in with a shout this season. Bare in mind we now have at least 2 internationals vying for each of the 3 forward positions, and Santi will be pulling the strings for them.

    Would be nice to keep RVP and have an embarrassment of riches (by our recent standards) to choose from up front. Would also like another full back and holding midfielder but you must admit this is our most complete and balanced squad in several years.

    Wilshire to return, Ramsey & Walcott to improve, Chamberlain playing in different positions, Bould coaching 4 international CBs to his high standards… if you can’t be optimistic 1 week before the season then when can you be?

    By the way, don’t forget Wellington Silva in the ON LOAN list.

  9. LB says:


    Jenkinson and Yanarris are cover for Sagna, we can’t buy a player just until Christmas then sell him in the January transfer window.

  10. LB says:


    Yes. I do agree with you this is our most complete and balanced squad we have had in several years.

    The excitement is growing.

  11. Nizam says:

    There is no reason why the gunners can’t win the epl. The question is whether the refs are fair in their officiating. I have had enough of these guys.In the Eduardo injured game,the ref gave an inexplicable penalty and free kick.In the 2003 Feb/Mar Bolton game .,the gunners were deliberately kicked and nothing was done to punish the thugs. In both inststances MU went on to win the title.
    There could be more incidents affecting the gunners.My hope is the ref head will punish erring refs immediately and banish him/them to the wilderness.If there is ref shortage,fear not.There could be a stampede from Europe.

  12. glic says:

    Seven years ago I shed a few tears when we won the vote to stage the Olympics in my back yard, still not ashamed to admit I shed a few more over the time of these fantastic games, I think we showed the World why we are GREAT Britain, loved every minute of it !.
    The most surprising thing to me was Women rowing backwards winning Gold medals ! as I dont know any Women who can reverse a car, tell them to use their mirror and out comes the make up bag with mirror and lipstick !.
    Made me want to do rowing though, so I enquired and was told all I needed was a couple of Oars, after a brief session at the local knocking shop I found it was not as easy as I thought and just ended up with a rotten useless cox.
    I will be amazed if Wiggins is not Knighted, he is the icing on the cake of a sport that we are World leaders at. Shame our Froggy friends across the pond cant be more gracious in their comments (less Frogs spawn mags and more sports science mags and you might win something !). I was going to suggest that the AAers should show some Wiggy mania and all grow some sideburns for the Tavern meet, but as I`m a competative person I thought better not, as I dont want to get a Bronze behind e va va vonne and peaches !. 😆

    The game yesterday, just a friendly, dont get too carried away. Le Canoe was close to scoring and looked the difference between Einstein and a Neanderthal compared to Chamakh.
    Pod looked OK , arriving late to score his second is what I liked, but imo cannot be considered serious to be played out wide on left, Gerv all day for me.
    Santi ( yes I know I said Santi who ), Just from that one half, I know he will fit like a glove and will become a favourite.
    One negative, The Ox has picked up an ankle injury, he`s out of the England game.

  13. harry671 says:

    Nice one LB, concise and asks the question, Can we win the league?, think Danish missed the point…..and SuperAFCTV wants his fantasy fulfilled……..

    The question is Can we win the league, the answer is simple, YES.

    Do I think we will win the league, probably not…..due to the unexplicable amount of bad luck we get, lack of green rub, poor decisions and injuries to key personnel, but we truly have strength in depth and could cope with injuries this year….possibly…..

    City are clear favourites, then its between us, United and Chelsea, with Liverpool and spurs just behind, whom are unlikely to bridge the gap.

    If we are in touch of city with 6-8 games to go, we might do it, who knows, but to say we have no chance and give up before we start, well you might as well go and find an olympic sport that you can do…….

    We get written off before a ball is kicked every season, last year it was impossible for us to finish in top 4 according to just about everyone, our fans included in some cases. I had a bet we would finish in the top four and won………(Made the bet day after United thrashed us, because I could see beyond that, soemthing some of our fans dont seem to be able to do)

    We have an array of talent that only City can match in my opinion, Chelsea possibly equal, United have an average squad which is enhanced by the greatest manager ever(I admire and respect old red nose but cant stand him), but I shall do a comparison of all the the top squads at some stage…… a pre season preview……..

    So for me, our aim must be second as a minimum but aim for 1st and hope we take any opportunity given to us, if city dont perform.

    All I want for now is for AW to settle the squad down and confirm our resources for the season, then we truly can take stock……..

    Yesterdays first half performance can only be positive and give some encouragement, can it not?

  14. LB says:

    Interesting comment Nizam. Most Arsenal supporters agree that Eduardo horror cost us the league. The thing is the squad just seems a bit thicker this time; that’s to say, there is a lot of depth to it.

  15. glic says:

    Keep Van Traitor and yes I think we could win the League, F**k the money, time to show some balls , Title or Profit ?.

  16. LB says:

    Great comment Harry.

    With regards to comparisons you seem to start causiously and then say exactly what I believe: it is between us and City.

    Chavs have taken huge punts all of which I expect to take a long time to come good as a settled team, if they manage it at all.

    Liverpool are no more than Swansea with bells on, sixth if they are lucky.

    Manu are average.

    Spuds, ROLF (as Micky would say)

  17. 26may1989 says:

    Looking good for us, for sure – the amazing thing is we can even think that without the van Persie situation being resolved. But there’s plenty of reason to hope.

    I can certainly believe we’ll finish ahead of United (it’s a mystery how they’ve continued to do well with such a meagre squad, it can’t go on!). Spurs are going backwards quickly, and Liverpool and Newcastle shouldn’t be too difficult to overcome. Chelsea? They’re stronger, and an attacking combo of Mata, Torres and Hazard could be very tasty. But they’re halfway through a generational change, and have a creaking defensive unit – it only works when the whole team defends. We’ll be going head-to-head with them but we look well placed to best them.

    But can we seriously rival City? Finishing above them is unlikely but a team that manages to give 44 games in one season to Gareth Barry isn’t without its weaknesses (though I guess Rodwell will be looking to get some of those games).

    We’re progressing, for once the upcoming season is something to be welcomed.

    And LB, well done matey.

  18. harry671 says:

    Just seen Songs comments that he is happy here, which means he is off soon probably, lol, cynically thinking……

    If he truly wants to stay, I would extend his contract, like his versality and bar the odd misplaced pass, he was one of our better performers last season….Unfairly criticised by a small minority…..

  19. Rasp says:

    Thanks LB,

    Yes, yes, yes, we can win the league, we have the best chance in years.

    I much prefer us to be underdogs rather than have the burden of expectation. I can see us slowly building momentum with this new squad and then surprising everyone by taking some scalps of those who many think are nailed on for top 3.

    Manu and chelski are definitely within our sites and when man city’s manager shows himself to be as much a prima donna as his players you can see they have a weakness.

  20. Danish Gooner says:

    Please LB,i have seen many a false dawn with this team and manager,i wish that he would just shut up and get on with his job,instead he arrogantly claims we can win and should win the Pl .For the last 8 seasons it has come right back in his face.I guarentee you they will find some way of fucking it up he is a master of that.As a matter of fact i did watch the Cologne game if that is what you refer to?? They played well but against a truly poor,poor Cologne who have absolutely zero chance of returning to the Bundesliga.Just wait for saturday when Martin O`neill will park his bus and super tanker infront of 11 Arsenal players,then we will see what they are made of.I truly hope we keep Van persie,selling him to old Whisky nose would be a serious mistake,rather give up 30 mil then sell him to that scottish bastard.

  21. LB says:

    Hi GLIC

    Yep, keep Sir Robin or if he has to go, send him overseas.

  22. harry671 says:

    Thanks LB, best to be slightly cautiously optimistic and not get carried away, but in all seriousness, who apart from City have a better squad with or without RVP….

  23. LB says:

    Hi Rasp

    I was thinking in a similar way: I like the position of underdog we find ourselves in. How many people would have seen that first half when the CS and the Olympics were on? We are going to be like Ninjas jumping out of the dark to assassinate the opposition. Whoops, that childish image was the work of my 14 year old, not me honest.

  24. SB says:

    Danish. Chill…

    AW is asked the question by a journo in a press conference that he has to attend. What do you want him to say, “no”?

    I’ve no doubt he’d rather do no talking at all and concentrate on coaching but unfortunately doing his job entails exactly what you think he should not be doing.

    Try to look at the big picture and have faith in the best manager we’ve ever had. Let’s give out new squad a chance by keeping off their backs and stick together this season xxx

  25. kgooner says:

    I think the nay sayers hould all try and stay positive. A positive midset from the fans isn’t much to ask for. Plus, i am a believer of thoughts affecting reality. We will end up with atleast one cup. The squad is deep and we can contend on different fronts.

  26. 26may1989 says:

    GLIC, to be fair to our froggy friends, there was heaps of positivity over there about Wiggo. They liked the cut of his jib, for his anti-PR frankness and his respect for his opponents, especially when Evans suffered at the hands of the tack-saboteurs and Wiggo (unlike Frenchman, Pierre Rolland) refused to take advantage of Evans’ bad luck. I think they liked his sidies too.

  27. LB says:


    I have learnt to see homour in your pessimistic comments but for my part I am a season ticket holder, do you expect me to take my seat without hope?

  28. Nick says:


    I know we can’t just buy and sell a cover for Sagna at Christmas, but my fear is that Sagna could not make it back from his injury. There could be a lot of issues after 2 leg breaks in 1 season. Jenkinson and Yanarris are too inexperienced for my tastes. Just my thoughts.

  29. Rasp says:

    😆 I love it LB, I’m not at all phased by the RvP situation either way, but after having seen how Theo can perform with the Ox, the Pod and Cazorla to play off, I’d like to do a U turn and say I really want him to stay …. impact player or starter, either way.

  30. GoonerB says:

    Yes we can win the league this year but for me it depends on what happens with RVP and Song. If they both go and we replace them it will be too many changes and I think it will then be next year that we would challenge. If we want to win the EPL this year then we should keep RVP, Song and Walcott and try and get Sahin maybe on loan with option to buy. That squad could win us the league.

  31. LB says:

    L’Equipe’s following day’s headline was “Le Gentleman”


    Yes, we will win the league. Arsenal and Utd will put pressure on City and internal divisions within there camp will see them edged out. Mancini and Marwood are destined to either become homosexual lovers or kick 12 bells out of each other, probably both.

    Utd will be our biggest threat, Fergusons teams always respond positivley. It will be close and a lot will depend on Arsenes ability to juggle the squad around spring time as we also push for the Champions League.

    If we do miss out on the big prizes it wont be the end of the world. On the contrary, it is just the beggining. We are on the up and future trophies are inevitable, hopefuly starting this season.

  33. Rasp says:

    Unlike 26m, I have no concerns over how Cazorla will cope with the like of Shawcross. He’s a tough little dude and way too smart to let the Neanderthals get the better of him.

  34. SB says:

    Must agree with GoonerB. Two changes to key personnel down the middle, even with top-notch replacements, would be asking a bit too much.

    Could be 20M for Song and then buy M’Villa for 17M. Good business but you get at least a year of “settling in”. As for RVP, he’s virtually irreplaceable and his absence would change many aspect of how we play… it would be a pity if he goes.

  35. VCC says:

    Danish……I seriously think we have a chance this season, so much so I have put money on them at 12-1 with blue square.


    By the time we get to March, Arsene will have Carzola, Pod, Wilshere and Chamberlin at his disposal. Other teams will simply be outclassed. The potential of this side is frightening.

  37. Rasp says:

    SB, RvP didn’t play in the first half yesterday yet we were a much more effective unit in that half than with those that featured in the second half.

    We have a history of focusing play on a star player (Henry, Cesc) that may not be good for the collective performance. It’s the team ethic and balance that is most important and our 3 new signings understand that and their experience and example will spur the whole team on.

  38. LB says:

    12-1 is such a good bet.

    This will probably half after the Sunderland game.

  39. glic says:

    Hi LB
    What change from last summer when 3 quality players were off and straight away injuries and suspensions. I feel alot more confident for this season, but I feel the fine line of success and failure will be RVP, imo, to win the EPL we( Arsene) must dig his heels in and keep him , I agree, if he goes it has to be away from these shores, but sell him to the Surrey glory hunters and we will be out of the race for Title imo. Just for once lets say to the oppo`,” swivel on this ” ( I haven`t the technical ability of chas to show my middle finger ). 🙂

  40. 26may1989 says:

    “We have a history of focusing play on a star player (Henry, Cesc) that may not be good for the collective performance. It’s the team ethic and balance that is most important”

    Spot on.

  41. SB says:

    Rasp. I accept your point, especially about star players, but over the season (which will be against defences FAR superior to a pre-season FC Koln) I still think we will miss RVP, if he goes.

    I’m more than happy with the quality we have brought in. THis summer will be one of the best in AW’s time with us… truly exceptional value for money for our outlay. I just think it would be great to have them with our captain and not instead of him.

    As much as anything it’s the fact that the rest of the team will have a good idea of how he is likely to behave off the ball in certain situations… more familiarity than talent.

  42. glic says:

    Hi 26
    My slant at the Froggies was more to do with the reports on the TV today about how their newspapers put our Magnificent Olympics in some little columns hidden away and all they could say was we were cheating, sounds like Sour Grapes le Magnifique to me ( dont do french, but sounds right 😆 ).

  43. harry671 says:

    SB, your right in that we’d all prefer RVP to stay, but he’ll miss us more than we will miss him……he might yet stay…….he’d be a fool to leave us now, unless it truly is just the money, then he’ll go…………..

  44. SB says:

    Stay or go, he’s blotted his copy book. A couple of hat tricks in our first few games may go some way to healing the wounds but only signing a new contract and announcement (from his personal website) admitting that he cocked up a bit and made a mistake would get him back on track to legend status.

    Do the right thing Robin…

  45. glic says:

    I think you will find that Mancini and Marwood are already lovers, Mancini has the hump because he went around Brian the Irons house and found a Post Office engineer there, spraying Marwoods Hampton Gold ( a little present from Sheik Mansour for helping City win Gold in the Financial Unfair Play event ) whilst removing some distastefull letters from France with his teeth !.


    As 26 has already said, that is very true Rasp. the days of relying on one big player are coming to an end. the likes of Jack, Ox, Carzola and Pod are all top players in there own right and will not be overshadowed by anyone. Our time is definataly coming.

    Cornwall, i went to Bath a couple of years ago. Lovely place, even the Mcdonolds and Ladbrooks are listed buildings down there.

  47. kuniay Ariyoh Awosanya says:

    I like d way dis three new player play they are so class and fantanstic

  48. Miles says:

    I think we can do it, we just been the correct leadership Van Persie doesn’t have. We first been Arteta or Verm as captain, get rid of Rvp, he doesn’t deserve the captaincy after this, even if he signed a new contract. Then clean up the minor details and we could do it.

  49. glic says:

    Your right, It`s a lovely place, another place I could quite easily move to and It`s only 1 1/2 hours into London by Train.
    I did a lot of running along the canal seeing all the barges, there was loads of women runners, which lead me to believe that the old saying, ” I wouldn`t touch it with a barge pole ” is crap !, mine might be old and rusty, but running along the canal every day gave it a new lease of life !. 😆

  50. Gooner In Exile says:

    Okay time to temper the enthusiasm, like Harry I think we can win the league (ie we have the players). Will we win it? Well that’s up to the Gods.

    Let’s be honest there are more than four teams vying for those CL spots, at least 6 can say they have the squads to expect it. The Champions League positions will be decided on consistency, the championship will be decided on who has that extra bit of fortune and belief. That is the one thing I don’t think our players have had (particularly the younger ones) now with a scattering of experience and despite not having won many titles between them I believe they can encourage our youngsters to look past the media hyperbole and actually achieve something.


    hahaha, know what you mean. Went there a couple of years ago with the Mrs and whilst queing to see the Roman Baths spotted the husband of a good friend of Mrs Terry with a lovley sort on his arm. i thought he was going to have a heart attack when he spotted us. hahaha

  52. Norfolk Gooner says:

    On a slightly different subject, although it does have relevance to Arsenal in particular. The sending of of Ivanovic could be the precursor to a serious crackdown on violent tackles, the kind of tackle that has caused us so many injuries in the past.

    The clown of a commentator, Andy Townsend, denied that the tackle was worth a red card, and even after repeated showings in which it was clear that a serious injury was only just avoided, he continued to say that he would not have sent the player off.

    I hope that the refs have been given instructions to stamp (no pun intended) out reckless career threatening tackles and that the thugs who perpetrate them get the message.

  53. 26may1989 says:

    I’d say there have only been a couple of seasons since we last won the title where we didn’t have a realistic chance of being champions. We may not have been favourties, but, even without any money, we’ve still had chances.

    Of course, some will say the fact we haven’t been champions since 2004 proves that we’ve been out of the running. But that misses the point, we’ve been competitive in most seasons, despite being routinely written off by the journos and pundits who are constantly in awe of who’s spent the most cash. Well, just take a look at Liverpool; £56m spent and they finished 8th, below Newcastle, Everton and even Chelsea.

  54. oz gunner says:

    good job LB

    Bugger the caution! I’ve rang asprey (take care of the premier league trophy) and told them to start writing Arsenal on it now so they can book their holidays sooner!

    Fingers crossed we can have a good run injury wise and if we do grab your spot at the open top bus parade!

    Good to have you back harry

  55. MickyDidIt89 says:

    LB, thank you very much for stepping up.
    Just got back from watching the game at the office. The League? Definately in with a shout. Let’s remember where we lost out last season. Not against City, Chelsea or Spurs but the likes of Fulham, Swansea and Utd. Well, I certainly think we are a team with an extra 10 points in it, and then, who knows.
    Cazorla looks an absolute steal. Its a massive U-turn from me on Podolski and I thought Giroud looked very very useful. Could easily have bagged a brace.
    Quite apart from the increased depth in squad, a player like Santi will bring out the best in everyone around him, and in particular, Gerv and Theo.
    We have a far more mature squad, and a very exciting season ahead.

  56. glic says:

    I cant understand why they keep playing Chamakh, every time he plays he`s shite, so how we going to sell him ?. Dont play him, then maybe all suiters will forget how shite he is !. Are we actually trying to get some wonga for him ?, f**k me , just give him away, if not get Arsene to get in touch with me and I`ll get on to someone who can dispose of him, I know some people in waste management !. I may recycle his barnet, I`ll sell his follicles to Granny shagger, so he can keep his bollock/buttock follicles.

  57. Big Raddy says:

    If I can’t believe we are going to win the title in the week before the season starts – when can I? Of course we will win it and win it in style.

    Apart from last season and a year when Cesc was head and shoulders our main man I cannot recall a time under Wenger when we were a one man team. TH had DB, Bobby, PV and Sol etc. It is not AW’s way.

  58. glic says:

    One thing that did make me laugh along the canal in Bath, there were a few Barges/boats with the name “Canal Holidays ” written on them, I was tempted to go back at night and remove the letter “C” from Canal !.

  59. Big Raddy says:

    Oz. Good point about injuries. I fear we have yet to sort out the right back problem.

  60. Rasp says:

    Hi BR and welcome back. Do you not recall TH’s last season (the first at the Emirates) every player who received the ball in midfield would look to find him with a pass and he’d hold his hands out in front in a gesture of frustration if they didn’t put it exactly where he wanted. In retrospect (hindsight is a wonderful thing) we probably kept TH one season too long but I understand why we’d want our ‘talismanic captain’ to lead us out into a new stadium.

  61. Big Raddy says:

    Have we signed Nuri Sahin on loan or not? He played for Real last night.

    Was it just rumour and paper talk?

  62. Rasp says:

    BR, I suspect Sahin’s future with Arsenal may be dependent on whatever happens with Alex Song.

  63. 26may1989 says:

    Henry will make another return in Feb, when Gervinho heads off on ACN duty.

  64. LB says:

    Hi BR

    I have a theory on this: it was only ever going to be an either or with Carzorla and Sahin. Cazorla being the prefered choice and Sahin to be used as a lever to stop Carzola’s agent getting carried away with the wage demands. My guess is now we have the Asturian our interest in the Turk has passed or at least has for this transfer window anyway.

  65. LB says:

    I bet all those fans who had Henry printed on that back of their replica shirts never imagined they would get so much use out of them and what’s more they can get them out of the cupboard again this Febuary.

  66. Big Raddy says:

    Rasp. Good to be back amongst friends.

    Your final sentence sums up his season, but wasn’t it also Cesc’s break out season? Plus, both RvP and Adebayor outscored TH (2006).

  67. Big Raddy says:

    LB. Thanks, I thought it was a done deal and as such was sure Song was leaving.

  68. Slimgingergooner says:

    Ryo gone to Wigan for season which probably means Moses to Chelsea. Good move for Ryo.

    Yes we can win it but only of injuries are kind to us. By this I don’t mean we don’t get any, but that we have key/form players available for big games.

  69. 26may1989 says:

    LB, I tend to agree with you: from what I’ve seen of him, Sahin isn’t an obvious alternative for Song, and is much more a playmaker. With Cazolra plus Wilshere, Arteta, Diaby, Arshavin, the Ox, Ramsey and Rosicky able to play a similar role (whether deeper or further forward), why would we want Sahin as well? I like him though, so if Wenger thought it would help to have him too, great.

  70. VCC says:

    LB…..if you register online with Blue Square they will match your bet up to £25. With my stake money of £50 that’s £600 in my bin at the end of the season, happy dayz.

    Hurry though, cos I think the odds will go down after Saturdays game.

    Good luck.

  71. harry671 says:

    VCC, thats a bet worth taking me thinks at 12-1, 25 quid – will cover that with a few bankers for sure…….so can only win in the long run…….Blue sq here i come…..

  72. 26may1989 says:

    I’ve never been one for betting, but at effective odds of 24-1 for us to win the title, I might break the habit of a lifetime.

  73. glic says:

    As I got on the boat at Pulteney Bridge for a trip up to Bathampton Mill, the “Captain” looked at my Arsenal shirt and said, ” being a Chav , I shouldn`t have let you get on “, to which I replied, ” what you going to do now then ?, make me walk the John Terry ” !, ” what do you mean ? “, he said, ” never mind “, I replied . You`ld think remarks about a Plank would be picked up by a Chav Boat owner, then again, maybe not !.

  74. Rasp says:

    Sweet left foot, he seems to play from deep, likes a tackle!

  75. SB says:

    With reference to those calling for a RIght Back signing…

    Looking at our squad and adding them up, then removing the U21 players, we have a squad of 24. That gives us just one more place, if neither Arshavin, RVP, Walcott or Song leave.

    That means we’re looking at a choice between RB and DMF (if we’re still in the market). We have the Coq and Frimster, amongst others, waiting to cover for DMF and have Jenkinson and (Bellerin?) as possible cover for Sagna.

    Looks a pretty clear decision to me where our attention should be focussed in the market right now.

  76. 26may1989 says:

    Thanks Rasp – but the firewall fascists here block youtube access, so I’ll have to examine the evidence this eve!

  77. SB says:

    Cheers Rasp – Jesus, his long passing is a bit sharp isn’t it?

  78. glic says:

    I asked this question a while back, so you`re either ignorant Bar Stewards or no one knows. 🙂
    Will there be another new home shirt next year to commemorate 100 years in North London ? and what is our 3rd change kit this season ?. Is it still the yellow one ?

  79. johnnie nyc says:

    impressive video. shows alot more than typical goal scoring vids. I agree with LB ( and for the same reasons ), its between us and city. Chelsea will be having trouble with all their talent. United really nothing special.

  80. johnnie nyc says:

    but what do we think is going on with Walcotts contract? shouldnt that be taken care of by now ?

  81. evonne says:

    Thanks LB, both for the post and the tip, I am off to the bookies to put all my money on Arsenal.
    OF COURSE we can win the League, it is long overdue and my gut feeling is that we will win it.

    Not only my gut feeling, but this summer’s signings are different from previous years – more mature, established, solid players, ready to unleash at the beginning of the season, as opposed to prospects, youths, unknown and not ready. We know that Wenger wants to win more than we do, but I’d say the Board has finally got a message too.

    Bring it on!! Time to smash it!!

  82. kelsey says:

    Thanks for the write up and stepping in at the last moment LB.

    I can’t really comment on the game as I had a bad stream and it wasn’t easy to identify the players except most of them appeared to be called Ala, according to the commentator.

    From what I saw I have no doubt we will be more lethal in attack and in midfield and Gervinho is really fast but needs to get his shooting more powerful.I still think the pod will replace RVP.
    I totally dismiss the Song/barca connection but agree whole hearily with LB that Song lways starts a game making stupid mistakes.
    Chamakh really is a lost cause .

    Yes we can win the league but I am still worried about the defence as a unit, and finally RVP will be a United player by the end of the week.

  83. Tony McComick says:

    Robbing-van-pooh… He needs us more than anything. Of course we will cope without him and I agree…Only Manshitty stand in our way.

    I expect Sir Fag’s manure to invest in Dec more than PSG did. RDM will by then be history as Abramofish will throw him outta the cold. AVB TO OUTDO CHELSKI *Abramofish just choked in oil money*. Liverpool to remain 8th, The Toons to fade beyond 12th.


  84. Big Raddy says:

    Tony. My heart will not take a goal difference finish, 8 points would be better.

    Kelsey. I would be very disappointed with the Board if they accept an offer from MU.They are lacking upfront and Robin would add hugely to their squad …. it makes no sense to strengthen the opposition does it? If they are the only club wanting to buy then we should say sod the €20m and keep RvP , allowing him to go on a free next season once the new chaps have bedded in.

    Should MU pip us to EC qualifications thanks to Robin’s goals, the income from his sale would be meaningless.

  85. Bayonne Jean says:

    Need right back cover in Sagna’s absence. I’ve said it before on this site, but Jenkinson. despite his good crosses, is a major liability — he defends mainly by grabbing and is always a conceded foul or PK waiting to happen. Coquelin is OK for a limited period, Yennaris too inexperienced, and I’d hate to see Koscielny thrust into this emergency role again. And the less seen of Djourou at right back, the better.

  86. 26may1989 says:

    Good to see we’ve placed Ryo with Arsenal North for the season, playing under Martinez should help him develop. The only downside is it helps Chelsea get hold of Victor Moses.

    Anyone believe we’d go for Mexes? Not me.

    I hope the Ox has pulled an MUFC in pulling out of the squad for a meaningless England friendly – well done him, if he has, for too long we’ve been the honest patsy in that game. If the injury’s real though, bugger.

  87. LB says:

    “Arsenal North” very clever and very funny at the same time.

  88. LB says:

    Someone asked above what is going on with Theo’s contract, well, that is all very mysterious but what on earth is going on with Bendtner?

  89. 26may1989 says:

    Picking up from SB at 3.58pm, I wanted to check where our current personnel are in terms of the PL squad regs on homegrown players etc. The cut-off date for under 21s should be DOB on or after 1 Jan 1991, which means those players don’t count in the squad list at all. We’re allowed 25 older players but eight of those places are reserved for home grown players (i.e., played in England for much of their u21 years).

    Based on that, and ignoring players out on loan, I think we are currently in the following position:

    Home grown: 9 players: Walcott, Ramsey, Djourou, Mannone, Gibbs, Szczesny, Lansbury, Song, Bendtner

    Non-home grown: 18 players: Diaby, Sagna, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Rosicky, Fabianski, Santos, Mertesacker, Arteta, Cazorla, Giroud, Podolski, Gervinho, van Persie, Arshavin, Chamakh, Squillaci, Park

    U21: Wilshere, Bartley, Jenkinson, Frimpong, Coquelin, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Eisfeld, Miquel, Anneke, Gnabry, Yennaris, Watt, Martinez

    So, we’re two players over the limit now (one, HG, one NHG). But in reality (and without even thinking about the futures of van Persie, Arshavin, Walcott and Song), we should be fine, assuming Bendtner, Chamakh, Squillaci and Park leave this summer or, if they’re still around, may not be included in the PL squad. That would mean our squad size would be 23 (8 HG, 15 NHG) plus the U21s.

    My numbers might be different but it does emphasise SB’s point, that in talking about possible further signings, there is less room for manoeuvre these days than we had a few years ago, when the squad was much younger.

  90. evonne says:

    van Persie is having a medical at ManU. Front bottom

  91. glic says:

    Since Bendy came out and said he would/could be the best player in the world ( Earth ), well, sad to say it just hasn`t happened, so he`s now on a different planet and I`m sure you know which one I mean, but you can ask me for humour effect !.

  92. MickyDidIt89 says:

    He’ll probably fail that, Evonne 🙂

  93. 26may1989 says:

    Bayonne Jean, back-ups, by definition, can’t always be the same quality as first pick players, so Sagna’s deputies are always going to be not quite as good. I agree with you re Djourou at RB, and also think Koscielny isn’t mobile enough to cover there. But personally, I think Jenks is great, and is (as Koscielny was before him) a fast learner. His defensive game continues to improve. And I think Yennaris is tremendous, such a cool head on such young Leytonstone shoulders. I remember when he came on for Djourou at halftime last season, he steadied the ship impressively. I also like Coquelin a lot, but would always prefer to see him in midfield.

    All in all, I’m pretty comfortable about RB cover, and am not enthusiastic about spending precious money and squad places on that one.

    The area of defensive personnel that worries me is LB: I like both Santos and Gibbs but don’t fully trust either of them defensively. But as with RB, we’re not going to changing that, so I’ll forget about that for now.

    More important than all of that is getting the FBs marshalled defensively, so they either don’t destroy offside traps or don’t both find themselves stranded upfield when the ball breaks.

    Great name by the way, Bayonne is a lovely part of the world.

  94. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Look lads, I don’t want to come over all rumoury or speculatively, but Alonso is refusing to re-sign at Real. Could he plonk down in front of our defence for a bit to educate Pingpong and Coqulin? Maybe he’s passed it, but he does speak Spannish 🙂

  95. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Bayonne is home to the annual Basque Festival. Can’t remember anything about it, though. Oh, and Jambon de Bayonne. The air dried stuff. The dogs’ swingers it is too.

  96. 26may1989 says:

    evonne, nothing hitting newsnow on that – where is it being reported?

  97. glic says:

    I did see a picture of Robin the Persil van driver delivering some detergent to Manu`s laundry, wouldn`t have thought he needed a medical though !.

  98. 26may1989 says:

    The dogs’ swingers, like it micky!

    Catch up with you lot later.

  99. evonne says:

    26 – my son. Is he just winding me up?

  100. glic says:

    Koz has pulled out of France`s squad with a calf injury, you can tell the season`s about to start, they`re dropping like flies !.

  101. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Its called doing a Bale!
    Saw your words on Bath. Love the place. We have two nights there every year without children to do christmas shopping. My favourite City outside London.

  102. glic says:

    Imo, London has only one pull over Bath and thats AFC. Me and Glicette also go once a year ,but not at Xmas, we park up and dont use the car untill we leave, it`s such a compact City that bike , boat and walks is all we need. Love the place and would move tomorrow if it wasn`t for family, but hey, cant grumble with what we have here !. 🙂

  103. VCC says:

    GLiC …Didit………My Daughter spent three years at Bath Spa University (been back three years now) Wife and I loved it so much we looked into house prices (alas, too much for us) Absolutely loved the place. I/We visited many times during her three year term. First year she was in digs that over looked the canal, I loved the walks along the toe path into town. Christmas shopping is fantastic at the market.

  104. johnnie nyc says:

    i saw koscielny limping near the end of the cologne match ! hopefully nothing too serious.. we have a good backup in BFG, so rest Koz if needed


    VCC, my wife done her degree there in the eighties. She loves the place, keeps going on about meeting her first love there. Makes me feel great. hahaha

    Now we all accept were going to win the league, what about our dear neighbours. I reckon they will have a good season and finish seventh, just missing out on Europa in a gallant effort. They will also get to the quarter finals of the FA Cup and chas and dave will release a chart topping record to celebrate. They might have a good Milk Cup run, beating Chelsea reserves on the way, spawning a faboulous DVD of there magnificent effort.

    They will also do great things for charity. Clive fatso Allen will donate a tenner for each pound he loses in weight, raising a splendid £10 in the process.

    Its also party time, as they celebrate 25 years since they were last relegated. True legends, not like the cheap ones at Arsenal, steve sedgley, barry daines, and david howels will all be there.

    The season will end on a sad note however, when a sun undercover reporter films Daniel Levy on the toilet picking the team on a toilet roll, thus undermining AVB’s authority. Some one will have to go…..and its AVB.

    Great times at the Lane

  106. 26may1989 says:

    Not that I’m defensive (well, maybe a bit 🙂 ), I must defend my beloved London (the city, not the blogger now known as LB….). Yes GLIC, London may have a few downsides (!), but there’s so much about this city that Bath can’t offer:

    * Gigs, concerts, dance and clubs: any night of the week, you can see the best music or dance, of any type you could want
    * Restaurants: everything you could want, from Michelin stars down to fry-ups
    * Shopping for everyone
    * Some of the best museums and art galleries in the world
    * Some of the best universities in the world
    * The best state schools in the country (check the stats, they’re in the FT!)
    * The parks and canals (I love those canals)
    * International city – London is one of the world’s great meeting places, its openness provides a home for anyone and everyone – you can be who you want in London
    * Being a transport hub means easy access to anywhere else in the UK and the world
    * There are career opportunities for everyone other than farmers, trawlermen and lumberjacks
    * The best taxi drivers in the world, even with the grumbling
    * For all the complaints, the London transport system is one of the most comprehensive systems of any city
    * 100% increase in cycling in ten years
    * Two thousand years of history (oh…..)

    Slightly OTT, that list – oh well!

  107. glic says:

    Dont get me wrong, I love London too and I forgot to mention my favourite food in the world is there, Pie & Mash, that`s worth a trip in it`s self !. 😆
    So Mrs Transplant drags you all the way to Bath to look for her first love !. 😆


    hahaha, you tell em 26. One thing ive learnt in life, never irk a solicitor. One thing you missed off the list. With all the variety, London has the most beautiful women in the world. Worth it just for that. hahaha


    Thats 100% correct Cornwall. One day i hope she meets him and they run off down the cobbled streets of Bath and set me free. hahahaha

  110. “26may1989 says:
    August 13, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    * 100% increase in cycling in ten years”

    Is that a good thing? When i was last in London I walked across a pelican crossing with the green man clearly showing for me, one cyclist waited patiently for us poor foot soldiers to cross, one didn’t even think about slowing down (to be fair to the waiting cyclist he said “nice” sarcastically as I rolled my eyes) and then a second one went through just after my arse had moved out of the way, I looked round again and the same waiting cyclist just gave a knowing raised eyebrow.

    Shame that a few spoil it for so many.

    But i did think the Olympics brought out the best of London and its population, and i do miss the place when i head back, but i don’t have to look at the eager young city boys for long to realise i’m well out of that walk of life. (it just wasn’t for me) and the train commutes are made far worse with people who really don’t understand just how loud they are, and that not everyone on the train wants to hear their conversation whether on the phone or the person in the seat next to them).

    After my last commute my twitter feed was like Michael Douglas in Falling Down and the young father behind me insisted on making childish baby talk to his 1 year old son, but also wife, grandma and grandpa who were along for the ride. It was like sitting in the middle of an episode of the Royle Family

    Ask your son if he wants to draw a clock, not “do you wanna draw a tick tock”, “shall we draw a tick tock”, are we on the choo chop”, “can you see the twees”

    OK i don’t think i’m over it yet!

  111. 26may1989 says:

    No worries GLIC, I wasn’t really irked, just a chance to bang on about my home town!

    Have now had a look at the Sahin vid that Rasp posted – very tasty. Of course, all youtube compilations are attractive, but it is interesting to see Sahin without the ball. Maybe he is a genuine alternative to Song. That said, I have this nagging feeling we need someone with less creative and attacking ambition, someone who will sit and do the Gilberto thing. Anyway, we shall see how it pans out.

  112. Gooner In Exile says:

    26 couldn’t that man be Arteta? He has something of Gilberto about him, unassuming gets the ball moving reads the game well.

  113. 26may1989 says:

    I was probably the waiting cyclist, Exile, I get pretty narked about the behaviour of some other cyclists. But even the bad ones don’t deserve the potentially homicidal behaviour of the worst of the drivers (which I know is only a few of them). I don’t care how many road rules are being broken by a bad cyclist, the main thing in driving is to do it safely.

    You have my sympathy about the choo choo though – a bit of strategic flatulence might have sorted the situation out…..

  114. 26may1989 says:

    Arteta in that role did occur to me – I just want Song to do his job better! But if he’s determined to try his hand at Barca, maybe we should remodel the midfield with Arteta’s role being redefined, but the level of change does worry me.

  115. Gooner In Exile says:

    Flatulence might have done it, it was packed train tho.

    There are some awful road users of all breeds, I often see Motorcyclists who piss me off and doing 30k miles a year driving I see some pretty terrible driving by idiots in cars too. Especially round Norfolk at this time of year with all the tractors and combines about.

  116. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Morning Chas

  117. VCC says:

    Morning all. 4 days to go, getting really excited. Reports this morning saying Song will stay, I’m happy with that.

    No more news on van Persie though. I for one want him to go, we have enough to cover him.

  118. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Ah VCC, good morning.
    I will be staggered if the window closes and we have a net spend of £38M. Staggered but delighted.

  119. evonne says:

    26 – I cannot believe that you missed out The Best Thing about London! Come on guys, what is The Very Best Thing in London??!!

  120. Talksport are very worried about Arsenal/Manchester United this morning…… worried that we’re about to sell RvP to our close rivals ………. worried about our injuries ……. worried about the manks only having goal scorers and no mid-field play maker ……

    I shall be disgusted with RvP if he joins the manks and will booo and jeer him loudly on his return to THOF

  121. VCC says:

    Emirates stadium, Evonne. The home of football.

  122. It has the very best football team in the world evonne 🙂


  123. What have wordpress done now, you have to go so far down the page to enter a commment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  124. evonne says:

    Peaches and VCC – well done 🙂

  125. evonne says:

    Ox’s injured, pulled out from tomorrow’s friendly. Or did he do a Bale?

  126. VCC says:

    Peaches. Let him go, we will be ok without him, he’s only got one more year at most left in him.

  127. evonne says:

    VCC – and half of that year he will spend on the physio table. Sharkey said ‘That bitch Karma will take care of it’ 🙂

  128. Hi VCC – I know we’ll be fine without him I’m just disgusted at the lack of loyalty and the arrogance of the man. Part of me reckons that the Manks are just trying to prove they have some muscle and Fergie must be chuckling that citeh pulled out.

    But I have always credited Fergie with more intelligence – he’s 29, has played one full season for us in 7/8 years, very talented but will have no sell on value and the deal could cost them £40m. Will he help them challenge Citeh for the league? No I don’t think so. Fergie needs his head examined 😉

  129. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Here’s a question: if we do need to balance the books a little, and one of Song, Walcott or Brave has to go, and not be replaced, which one?

  130. evonne says:

    Brave, most money

  131. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I still cannot believe we’d flog him to one of our closest rivals. Then there is the fact that from his point of view, he has spent the best part of his career at a club he supported as a boy, where he has been idolized, and will know the fans will never forgive him.
    He has seen the welcome TH receives and that he would be persona non grata forever.

  132. MickyDidIt89 says:

    My guess is that if for whatever reason he wants to go, then both he and the club are praying a Juve will come up with the readies.

  133. Rasp says:

    Morning Micky,

    I think RvP wants to go to manu. He wants to stay in England, his wife is close friends with Nigel De Jong’s wife and manu are a bigger club than Juve.


    Forget about the likes of Nasri and Adebarndoor or Cesc. RVP will become a more loathed figure than the lot of them. The reason is simple. The others all departed when Arsenal were not ready to chalange, now we are. If we do mount a serious tilt at the league this year, and i think we will, then Utd will be up there to with RVP banging the goals in for them. Could get hot and nasty.

  135. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Rasp hi,
    In that case I hope Mrs Brave and Mrs DJ are seriously good friends because MrsB is leaving behind London and every other friend she has made.

  136. Micky – you and I come from exactly the same place on this, I just find it so depressing that the player thinks he’s bigger than the club that stuck by him.

    I know LB will come on and say he’s entitled to look for the best financial deal for himself and his family and I agree he is, but what if the best all round deal – including stability, worth to the club, love of the supporters, respect of work colleagues, life after being a player, in all his decision making is with Arsenal.

    I don’t want to see him in a Mank shirt, I don’t want to hear about him scoring goals for the Manks …… maybe Juve will come up with an offer ……

  137. Terry – I agree, he will be more loathed than any of the previous cash chasers 😦

  138. Shard says:

    Morning everyone,

    Yes of course Arsenal can win the league and if the Brave One’s definition of ambition wasn’t to do with how heavy his wallet is he’d have signed a new deal and issued a retraction well before now. Hopefully we stick to our 30m asking price from the red mancs. After all, they paid the tiny totts that much for berbatov.

    I regret not going to Bath on my travels to the UK. I was in Bristol and had the option of either doing a day out at the Longleats Car Safari thing (which was fun) or spend the day in Bath. Oh well, next time..

    I love London. I agree with most of what 26 said. And yes, the public transport is fantastic. I guess coming from Delhi, London just doesn’t seem as loud or intrusive, despite the baby talking proud papas on the tube. But if anyone thinks the UK has idiot drivers, I challenge you to drive in India. Your heart will skip so many beats you’ll be flat-lining while you’re still alive. Not to mention coming up with new and creative additions to your vocabulary of colourful adjectives.

  139. MickyDidIt89 says:

    A banker can move from Barclays to Nat West for extra wonga, and ex colleagues will say “well played”. Brave will receive abuse on every street corner whenever he returns to London, which he will want to, as inevitably he and Mrs Brave have friends there.
    My advice to Mrs Brave: Burka up love.

  140. oz gunner says:

    morning all,

    I agree Terry, he would insight a bigger riot than ade did. I can’t believe the other teams have dropped out of the race, come on guys we want a bidding war here! We want 20+, manu offered 14million and reportedly will test Arsene’s resolve by offering 17million. Surely if that’s the case it’ll be laughed off.

    If he went to Manu and scored against us at the Emirates…I honestly don’t know what I would do! The remote through the telly first off, burn all my arsenal tops with him on the back, write death threats to him, cry myself to sleep, become a recluse…

  141. VCC says:

    Micky 7:45. Brave Robin all day long.

  142. evonne says:

    If RvP was say on £50k a week and Manks offered a £100k package, I would probably understand. But the dickhead was offered £150 by AFC what more does he want? Trophies my arse

  143. evonne says:

    oz – that would be truly unbearable. I’d plan revenge


    hahahahaha, dont become a hermit oz, we need you on here. I contemplated the Himalayers after totnumb beat us in 91 but soon got over it. We will stuff Utd and Van Persie this season

  145. oz gunner says:

    @ Evonne

    Good, i’d need help. I’ll start constructing a basement with poor lighting, a washing machine that shakes, and a constant drip sound on record. We may need TMHT’s telescope for reconnassiance.

    @ Micky

    def Brave Robin also.
    Interesting that we’ve been linked with the Belgium striker, and that he has admitted in the sky sports interview that his agent has had talks with Arsenal

  146. oz gunner says:

    haha terry I wouldn’t have blamed you, it’d be a coin toss.

  147. VCC says:

    I can’t believe any Arsenal supporter would still want brave Robin to remain at THOF after this summers escapades. If they don’t want to play for the shirt then ship out.

    Mr. Van Persie, the grass is not always greener on the other side.

    Get as much as we can for him. As TMHT says, we will beat the scum with or without Mr.van Persie.

  148. chas says:

    The Sun are pretending Brave Sir Robin desperately wants a move now that he’s been booed by his own fans. I know they’ve just made it up to wind us up but you do have to feel sorry for him, all lonely and no-one loves him any more.

  149. Rasp says:

    I’m resigned to losing RvP to manu and will rejoice when we finish above them next season.

    What I am finding hard to believe are the stories that we are trying to sign another striker to replace RvP when we have just bought two strikers. Admittedly in a perfect world we’d get shot of Chamakh, Bendtner and Park and then maybe there’d be an empty slot but I fear there aren’t too many clubs out there foolish enough to match the wages we’re paying them.

  150. glic says:

    Even though I`m in Cornwall I`m still a Londoner. If RVP goes to Manchester, I will be straight up the M6 and shag his wife, you can take the girl out of London, but you cant take London out of the girl !. 😉

  151. Big Raddy says:

    Morning. I want RvP to stay. If we have the season I hope for then he will be going down the slippery slope if he signs for another PL club.

    That said, his statement of early summer has doomed him.

    Don’t Anzhi need a striker?

  152. oz gunner says:

    @ Rasp

    I think we will get rid of Park and Bendy. If we pick up another striker surely Chamakh could be loaned out to a French team or a lower Premier League team so we recoup some of his wages. Mirallas sounds promising though. He scored 20 goals for Olympiakos, 20yr old, gets along with Vermaelen, and wants to come to us. Apparently he has a buyout clause for only 6 million or something. Sign him up I say. That’d be him, Campbell and Afobe coming through fighting for a first team place

  153. glic says:

    I still stand by my comment. Arsene should put up his middle finger and tell Red nose strap to swivel on it. Keep the employee and we have a great chance of Gold. Profit or Title ?.

  154. oz gunner says:

    haha brilliant GLIC

  155. Big Raddy says:

    GLIC. Agree with your conclusion but my “hippy” philosophy does not allow for the forced penetration of SAF’s intimate areas

  156. chas says:

    Goldi Poldi Halleluja
    Es gibt einen Fussballgott.

  157. glic says:

    Got to agree from earlier, the worst cyclist is Mother Teresa compared to the worst motorist. I do more miles than most, if i`m down a country lane I stop and let the runners, cyclists, horse riders go past, these are very vulnerable people against a couple of ton of metal, just a little bit of sense.

  158. oz gunner says:

    it’s a brilliant song chas. Afte you posted it last time i put it as my mobile ringtone (replacing ‘he scores when he wants’, sorry Robin, he’s replacing you everywhere!)

  159. glic says:

    Somehow, I think a kick in SAF`s orbs will render the transgressor in agony, knowing SAF, I bet their made of cast iron or granite !.

  160. Henry mwangi says:

    We will defently win the league this season.

  161. chas says:

    “After you posted it last time” haha, soz.

    I like the comment about singing Goldi Poldi etc at the Emirates.
    Out with the old and in with the new.

  162. Rasp says:

    Hi oz, I agree Kevin Mirallas would be a better player for us than any of the three mentioned. I fear we may be left with Chamakh and he is truly appalling in the premier league. I have never seen a striker as lightweight and lacking in power, he has some pace but never uses it, I will throw a big party the day he leaves.

  163. Rasp says:

    ……. New post …………

  164. chas says:

    Some twitter comments are suggesting the Mirallas story has been cooked up by his agent and Arsenal haven’t contacted Olympiakos at all.

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