Seven days on and still reliving the return of King Henry

We’re a bit in the doldrums here at Arsenal Arsenal. At the moment we’re still numb from the defeat on Sunday and finding it hard to be upbeat and forward thinking. Our twin posts today are in celebration of the return of Thierry Henry. Hopefully our bloggers will come out from behind the sofa and remember the positives of this season so far, but don’t let that stop you commenting on where we go from here.

Written by Total Arsenal

On Monday 9th January 2012, we, the Gooners, witnessed a truly special moment. The return of King Henry to the Home of Football was not just a joyous occasion, it was also magical; even a near-spiritual, transcendental experience for all those present at The Emirates and, to a lesser extent, to those who watched the game in pubs or at home. What made it all the more special was Henry’s response to the occasion: he, himself, wanted this return so much, but just like us had not believed it possible anymore. From an unknown player he had grown into a legend at Arsenal, to then become an ex-player and transform in a fan for life. This fan was given the unique opportunity to play for the club he had fallen in love with. For TH14/12 this meant the world.

On these rare moments, when a pivotal part of the glorious Arsenal past is brought back into the future, and we are being allowed – against all expectations – to experience it once again in its full intensity, we all know we are witnessing/taking part in something truly special.

The scene was set beautifully for Thierry. Arsenal were struggling to break down a stubborn Leeds to such an extent that the return of Henry was not just a luxury Arsene could afford itself – no, it had become a necessity. We needed a shot in the arm, a spark to lift the place and that is exactly what he gave us that night.

What followed next will be remembered by every Gooner for decades to come. Thierry’s goal was a good goal, but by itself not a great goal. What made it a great goal is totally down to its historical value. It was a trademark Henry goal, showing us all again how important it is for a player to move in the right positions, and what it means for a striker to make a great first touch in the box. He basically took on the ball in such a way that he used his right foot like a hockey stick: at the same time as he touched the ball with his foot he allowed his body to move ever so slightly away from the ball, in order to line himself up perfectly for a deadly second touch. He sat himself up with the best possible angle to place his diagonal shot, low and precise, past the keeper and in the corner of the goal.

At that moment in time I literally pinched myself, thinking this is too bizarre to be true, that I must be dreaming. I had never expected to see one of my three greatest Arsenal heroes back playing real football for us. To see him score such a quintessential TH14 goal, the only goal on a dull night, was simply magical.

When something truly special happens, people will express themselves in heartfelt superlatives. To prove just that, here are some of the comments from fellow AA’ers:

Peaches: Thierry ……. ahhhh Thierry, he just loves playing for Arsenal and we just love having him back. How fantastic for those youngsters to play and train alongside him for the next few weeks. Almost too good to be true and I was there.’…. ‘We can discuss formations and players good and bad points for eternity but tonight one man and his song and our song raised the roof at The Emirates and made thousands of gooners very happy. He’s really special our Thierry Henry, be in no doubt ………

MickyDidIt89: ‘We [Micky and his son] watched the game. First half…dull, but the conversation kept coming. “Just imagine Dad, 0-0, maybe 1-1 and Thierry comes on to score the winner”. Later I put him to bed, kissed him goodnight and turned off the light. As I closed the door I heard a whisper: “Dad….can’t wait to tell my friends at school tomorrow that I saw Thierry come on and score the winner for The Arsenal”.
Best part for me? Not TH, not the win but being with my Son the moment he experienced his first real piece of Arsenal Magic.’

Chas: ‘I’ve never seen excitement like that in an Emirates upper tier crowd. People on their feet singing and dancing, it really was the second coming……A bizarre night at the football, as if it was scripted, yet pulsing with an expectant excitement.’

VCC: ‘Needless to say we had a ball last night down our local, high fives all round after The King scored.’

Big Raddy: ‘Does it get better than that moment? To be treasured forever.’

SharkeySure: ‘A living eulogy !!!!!’

TMHT: ‘Thierry and Arsenal is like a fairytale. Wonderful stuff.’

FGG: ‘I’ve died and gone to heaven!’

Seven days on from that fantastic evening, our feet have been put firmly back on the ground again. However tough the next few months MIGHT be though, nobody will be able to take that great night, in which we witnessed the temporary return of the King, away from us. A night we will remember for decades to come – a modern day fairytale.

Written by Illybongani

On Monday night the Emirates stadium witnessed the rebirth of one of football’s all-time greats – Thierry Henry. Almost 5 years since he left for greener grass in Spain the mercurial goal machine returned home to visit his family after travelling round a bit to see the world.

When the loan deal was first mooted a few eyebrows were raised; was it just Arsène being tight and not bothering to put is short arms in his long pockets again? Was it just a sentimental grab for a handful of straw that would only sully a reputation cast in bronze on the plaza outside the stadium? Or was it another shrewd piece of business by the Professor to fill in gaps left by Chamakh and Gervinho who have gone off to the African Nations Cup?

Well we found out on Monday night didn’t we? If he doesn’t score another goal in his 6-week home visit then it will all have been worth it. Someone needs to get on Wikipedia and update that scoring record.

Thierry coming home was like having sex with your ex-wife…you know it used to be good, she knew what turned you on and almost always delivered – but after a long break, she’s put on a few pounds and has a few wrinkles. But, heh, maybe she’s learned some new tricks since the break up! Well she managed to give me a semi on Monday!

Well it wasn’t a new trick, it was the same old stuff that he delivered year after year. Clinical with passion. But this time it felt so much more special. But yet it showed just how far backwards we have gone since he left. The poor performance of the rest of the team against an even poorer Leeds left a sour taste in the mouth.

Isn’t it time we divorced Chamakh and Arshavin on the grounds of diminished ability? And maybe it’s time to end the trial separation of Thierry and us? We forgive you darling – now come home where you belong.


244 Responses to Seven days on and still reliving the return of King Henry

  1. Morning AA friends

    It’s tough this football supporting lark, we love it so much that it’s really hard when it lets us down, destroys our weekend, makes looking forward to the next game so difficult but we must look forward.

    The transfer window is open and although we have great players coming back from injury it may be too late by then to save our Champions League place.

    It’s no-ones fault that we have been decimated by injuries to our first team but it will be someones fault if no action is taken. Does the 25 man rule mean that we can’t add to our squad, if so then surely there should be exceptional circumstances like there are with goal-keepers?

    If we’re having trouble looking forward to the next game imagine how the team feel?

  2. 4th the new trophy of the ambitionless says:

    “Seven days on and still reliving the return of King Henry”

    Just about sums up everything thats wrong with this club at the moment.

  3. Hi Peachy, just coming out of my Mugabe media lock down after our 2 successive league defeats.
    Kudos to the post writers today who are trying to drag us our of our malaise, it ‘aint easy.

    My dear Arsenal.


  4. Rasp says:

    Thanks guys for allowing me to relive the euphoria of that game – the old cliche ‘7 days is a long time in football’ certainly applies here.

    My concern has never been that we don’t spend sumptuous amounts on players, but that we often fail to do the best we can with the resources available and most frustratingly, we don’t learn from our mistakes.

    Apart from the usual late subs moan etc etc, it seems I am alone in thinking that loaning out Frimpong was a mistake. He’s unrefined and has a lot to learn but is the closest thing we have to a midfield enforcer for when the going gets tough. I’d certainly put him on the bench and use him as a sub if Song or Ramsey are having an off day. By loaning him out we’ve strengthened Wolves and weakened ourselves.

  5. Hi Raspers,

    my two main gripes are:

    1. We never replace departing players with players of equivalent quality, post 2005
    2. Our team, with certain exceptions, seem to think that closing down the opposition when we don’t have the ball is passe.

    As for Frimmers, I don’t think he is ready for the first team and he does need game time to iron out the crudities of his playing style.

  6. fatgingergooner says:


    I’m not sure of the exact timeline, but didnt Coquelin get injured just after the loan deal? If that is the case then surely He would’ve been the enforcer on the bench you speak of? If it isn’t the case, then we must be desperate to have to rely on either of these 2 to sort anything out! Frimpong is very raw still and Coquelin is still learning.

    Totally agree about us not learning from mistakes. Year after year it’s the same old errors.

    I know it’s been said many times about getting rid of deadwood, but we really do need to get some hunger back in the side. Bringing on the likes of Rosicky and AA and Chamakh time after time is doing us no good. Ox showed urgency in 15 minutes against Swansea than some of these have shown in 18 months.

    We need players looking to impress, not players looking depressed.

  7. Rasp says:

    Hi chary,

    Yes the apparent lack of urgency in closing down the opposition is matched by the reluctance to show for the ball when we’re in posession and a teammate is in a dead end. They must all know by now that if Theo is not running at pace and is surrounded by defenders, he will need the option of a pass. I could not belive the number of times Miquel had to hoof the ball on sunday because there was no passing option.

  8. Rasp – when have we ever subbed a player that’s having an off day???? It never happens, we’ve watched Arshavin have to play 90 minutes when it’s obvious after the first 15 that he’s not at the races. Song plays a full 90 minutes even if he’s given the ball away a dozen times in the opening half.

    I know a moments brilliance can happen at any time – look at Djourous through ball for Theos goal on Sunday or Songs pass for Thierry last Monday. All teams have moments of brilliance, we’ve been undone by enough wondergoals from never to be heard of again players over the years.

    Have we become a team reliant on moments of brilliance or do we have a brilliant team?

    It should be the latter, we should have a brilliant team 😦

  9. Rasp says:

    Hi fgg,

    Yes you are correct I think, Le Coq got injured after we loaned out Frimpong. I would have put Coquelin before Frimpong in the pecking order, but this learning from mistakes thing should have taught us that we need the insurance of quality back-up and letting Frimpong go deprived us of that option.

    We need to learn how to ‘swarm’ over the opposition as Barca and even lowly Swansea do (joking, they’re a very good side). The first criterion is to work hard as a team – no passengers, so I agree with your clear-out strategy, but as we know, moving players on is not easy.

  10. Rasp says:

    Hi peaches,

    You are correct, AW’s manual does not have a page dedicated to early substitutions. I have known managers to make 3 subs at half time when the team are not performing. I’m not advocating that, but subbing a player who is letting the side down or one who is obviously going to get sent off just seems like common sense to me, assuming there is a suitable replacement on the bench.

  11. fatgingergooner says:


    We don’t have a brilliant team.

    We have a great first team of everyone is fit and firing, a team capable of winning things. But underneath that strong crust, we have a filling of poor, 30 year old has beens that’s rotting away. We have underperforming, overpaid, ageing, mid table players.

    If you take away Vermaelen, Arteta, Wilshire and RvP, we would be a mid table to top 6 side, which is exactly where we are heading at the moment. Mainly due to injury.

  12. fatgingergooner says:


    Espescially if those layers are welded on with £90k a week cheques!

    There’s a distinct lack of hunger and desire with and without the ball. It feels as though the early season depression has been sat under the surface waiting to pop out as soon as a few results go against us, and it’s the same with the fans. People are dying to have a pop and are waiting for the right moment. A poor display and defeat at the weekend and we could be almost back to square one. It’s a sobering thought.

  13. Rasp says:

    😆 fgg, I’ve prefixed ‘layers with the missing ‘p’ now.

    I know what you mean about those with a negative outlook waiting for the oppportunity to pounce. I really cannot accept the injuries argument as grounds for defending the performance on Sunday. Yes we’ve got horrendous injury problems – just like the last 3 or 4 years, we should expect that by now. It’s something that happens at Arsenal. The level of performance needs to be upped and we have to be prepared to sub/replace established stars if they are not delivering.

  14. goonermichael says:

    4th the new trophy of the ambitionless says:
    January 17, 2012 at 9:46 am
    “Seven days on and still reliving the return of King Henry”

    Just about sums up everything thats wrong with this club at the moment.

    Well at least you’re helping

  15. That’s the scary thing Raspers – do we feel cxonfident about taking on the Mancs ? Luckily they have dropped in quality this year also yet ole Bacon Face doesn’t tolerate half-arssed performances so that is probably what will be the deciding factor on sunday.

    That and the fact that we’ve not won one of the ten games Mike Dean(the ref for the ManUre game) has reffed for us.

    6th spot come Monday anyone ? 🙂

  16. goonermichael says:

    If you take the equivalent players out of spuds, chavs, mancs (red ones) bindippers where would they be? That’s the spine of our team minus GK

  17. goonermichael says:

    Nani against JD? I’m praying for a point already. No full backs the way the mancs play doesn’t bear thinking about. Hoping shitty beat the scum is the depths I’ve sunk to

  18. goonermichael says:

    I think Mancini’s tactics were very good last night. He ended up with 3 centre backs to protect the lead when they started wobbling at the end. Sometimes Wengers subs baffle me (not difficult I admit)

  19. goonermichael says:

    You always leave when I come on 😦

  20. fatgingergooner says:

    Just so you know, I haven’t given up hope.
    This team is a couple of players top draw players away from greatness. It’s easy to sit and pick the bones whilst the team lay injured on the floor, anyone can do that. The difficult thing about being a football fan is staying positive when all around are losing their heads and asking for the managers’ on a plate!

    Now we have had the worst start to a season we have ever had, taking everything into account, but we are still only 4 points behind Chelsea! This Arsenal team can only get fitter and stronger as the season goes on, and with some big teams still to come to THOF it’s still in our hands.

    So to all you proper Gooners out there, LETS BE AVIN YA!!!!! COYRRG!

  21. goonermichael says:

    Chary 7th is a distinct possibilty. If we can’t get 4th (which I haven’t given up on yet) I’d like to be outside the Europa league places.

  22. Rasp says:


    If Arteta is back and possibly TV, I think we have a good chance of beating the mancs. It doesn’t look like Sagna will be available so the wide midfielders need to put in a shift and support their fullbacks defensively.

  23. goonermichael says:

    If pool win and barcodes draw on Saturday we’ll be 7th on Saturday evening.

  24. Wonderman says:

    Morning all, moving forward I think our team needs to rediscover desire on the pitch in EVERY game . I watched Wigan last night against Citeh and god they fought like lions, the complete opposite to us at the mo.

    Arshavin has been poor but I think the reason is that he has been played out of position . He came to arsenal as a 2nd striker/playmaker not a winger.

  25. I agree with you GM, we are beter off out of the Europa if we don’t get the top 4.
    But then we could always do what the Twitcher did and throw on the U17’s and 3rd string to throw the games pre Xmas so they end up concentrating on the League.
    Bit of a wheeler dealer isn’t he ? 🙂

  26. goonermichael says:

    Rasp. It worries me the way they play. Shitty looked in control in the cup, one pass out to the right a cross and they were 1 down. TV playing left back will be better than last game. I hope we see Ox for longer he’s so obviously more of a nuisance than arsdhavin or walcott.

  27. Rasp says:

    Mikel Arteta (Calf)
    Last Updated: 15 January
    Mikel missed the Swansea game with a mild groin strain.
    Last Game: Arsenal 1-0 Leeds – January 09, 2012
    Tomas Rosicky (Illness)
    Last Updated: 13 January
    Speaking on January 13, Arsene Wenger said: “They [Mertesacker and Rosicky] were sick. They have still not joined the squad and I will make a decision on them tomorrow.”
    Last Game: Fulham 2-1 Arsenal – January 02, 2012

    Per Mertesacker (Illness)
    Last Updated: 13 January
    Speaking on January 13, Arsene Wenger said: “They [Mertesacker and Rosicky] were sick. They have still not joined the squad and I will make a decision on them tomorrow.”
    Last Game: Fulham 2-1 Arsenal – January 02, 2012

    Thomas Vermaelen (Calf)
    Last Updated: 13 January
    Thomas is currently sidelined with a calf injury. Speaking on January 13, Arsene Wenger said: “We have a big hope that he will be back for Manchester United.”
    Last Game: Arsenal 1-0 QPR – December 31, 2011

    Francis Coquelin (Hamstring)
    Last Updated: 13 January
    Francis is currently sideined with a hamstring injury. Speaking on January 13, Arsene Wenger said: “He is out of three weeks. He will miss Sunday and Manchester United. There is possibility he will be back for the game after.”
    Last Game: Arsenal 1-0 Leeds – January 09, 2012

    Abou Diaby (Hamstring)
    Last Updated: 10 January
    Abou is currently sidelined with a hamstring injury.
    Last Game: Arsenal 1-1 Fulham – November 26, 2011

    Kieran Gibbs (Groin)
    Last Updated: 06 January
    Speaking on January 6, Arsene Wenger said: “Gibbs is doing well but none of them are ready for the next few weeks at least.”
    Last Game: Arsenal 2-1 Sunderland – October 16, 2011

    Bacary Sagna (Ankle)
    Last Updated: 23 December
    Speaking on December 23, Arsene Wenger said: “You could see that he’s a bit ahead of schedule. We have to [be careful] but physically he will be ready very quickly because he worked very hard in the gym. We think the end of January is a reasonable target for him.”
    Last Game: Tottenham Hotspur 2-1 Arsenal – October 02, 2011

    Carl Jenkinson (Back)
    Last Updated: 20 December
    Speaking on December 16, Arsene Wenger said: “His scan was not good news, the wait will be longer than expected. We have to wait four more weeks for another scan. His stress fracture is not a career-damaging injury but it will take a bit longer than expected.”
    Last Game: Arsenal 3-0 W.B.A. – November 05, 2011

    Jack Wilshere (Ankle)
    Last Updated: 16 December
    Jack will be expected back in action around the middle of February Speaking on December 16, Arsene Wenger said: “He had a very important scan on Thursday and that was very, very good, exceptionally good. The news we have for Jack is very positive. No [he will not be back sooner], we will respect the delays. I count maybe mid-February for Jack.”
    Last Game: Arsenal 1-1 New York Red Bulls – July 31, 2011

    Andre Santos (Ankle)
    Last Updated: 12 December
    Andre Santos will have surgery to repair ligament damage and is expected to be out for around three months.
    Last Game: Olympiacos 3-1 Arsenal – December 06, 2011

  28. Rasp says:

    Yes GM, it will be interesting to see if AW is brave enough to start with the Ox. I don’t think we can worry about putting a young player under pressure because we know the Ox will want to play and if he has the mental strength he will seize the opportunity.


    Thanks TA & Illy, that goal was a great moment for Thierry and the fans. Whos says romance is dead?

    Just a quick point on our current “plight”. We will still make top four. From March onwards the sun will be shinning, Jack will be back with many others returning from injury and the Ox will feature heavily. Totnumb and Abramomovich have to come to our place and we will teach both a lesson. The future promises fantastic things, but the present is all there to play for, bring it on i say.

  30. goonermichael says:

    smalling and jones are young Rasp they’ll play if they’re fit. plug is out I think which is a shame as he’s wank now.

  31. Gooner In Exile says:

    Morning all, just one question….Henry has been training with the squad since around mid December, our results since 10/12:

    Everton W 1-0
    Shitty L 0-1
    Villa W 2-1
    Wolves D 1-1
    QPR W 1-0
    Fulham L 1-2
    Leeds W 1-0
    Swansea L 2-3

    Sorry I’m struggling to see the positivity he is giving our squad of players.

  32. GM, lol “Plug” = “Turtle faced shopaholic drug cheat”

  33. Wonderman says:

    Hi GIE, hard to argue with you fella, but I’m also thinking about how we have made Park look like a complete tool whilst paying him a salary that could have spent elsewhere

  34. goonermichael says:

    GIE. I know you were against bringing him back but he didn’t injure all our full backs.

  35. evonne says:

    Hello TA, thank you for such good post in those difficult times
    But I have a different spin on things, as usual – what if some players didn’t play to their full potential BECAUSE of Thierry Henry? Is it possible that they subconsiously thought he’d come on and score the winning goal?

  36. Gooner In Exile says:

    GM 😀 you’re right he didn’t. But, have we seen a return to the old Arsenal over the games listed above, fractious and disparate group.

    I haven’t seen the togetherness seen between August and November by an Arsenal side for quite some time. Maybe it was a blip, but we seem to have lost some of that unity recently.

    WM I agree the Park signing looks worse by the week.

  37. evonne says:

    GM – I am always reading your comments, you are so funny 🙂 Sometimes I don’t reply, just giggle silently. That reply to 4th – at least you are helping, ha ha bloody ha 🙂

  38. Arsedave says:


    The poor run of form is down to the thinness of the squad, injuries and tiredness to players like Aaron. Absolutely no comnnection with the arrival of TH14/12. The negativity is coming from the fans on this site. Just watch what happens over the next 5 weeks.
    Everything will be forgotten when we beat ManUre on Sunday after Spuds without Adebayor are beaten at $ity.

  39. Rasp says:

    I think the situation we find ourselves in is very simple. The fact that RvP is probably the only player that will be the subject of interest from other clubs in the summer tells us that the side is not rammed with world class players as we’ve had to let them go for financial reasons – therefore we have to be strong as a team. Man for man, Swansea are not as good as us but they gave a far superior team performance

  40. fatgingergooner says:


    The 4 games after United and takes us upto Milan game in mid Feb.

    Even with a depleted team, these are winable games. If we can get through the United game reasonably in tact both mentally and physically then we could still get top 4.

  41. kelsey says:

    This might not go down well with most on here but it was confirmed to me (as i stated earlier today) that there is conflict between kroenke and his men and Wenger. There is a lack of motivation by several players in the team as there have been promises to them that money would be available to buy quality experienced players, and I am not talking about 30 million plus players.
    One can argue that the players shouldn’t have to be motivated but the whole Summer transfer business was a farce and the words panic buy was used by some fans. Fabregas was going, everyone knew that, as was Nasri and that money could have been spent a little sooner rather than the last minute signings of Arteta and the loan of Benyahoun, and the ineffectual Mertesacker. The park signing was a joke IMO.gervinho was persuaded to join by nasri, who then buggered off.
    Now to confound all of this we haven’t got a fit full back at the club, which one couldn’t envisage.I doubt jenkinson will play again this season and for jack to get fit it will be too late for this season.

    Don’t blame Wenger, he is working under orders and I could see the same scenario that others have said that if we don’t turn the corner pretty soon we will implode and I too would rather miss out on Europa league.
    What the hell is kroenke doing.We all know we can’t compete with City and to an extent Chelsea but this is going to bite us hard in the backside and kroenke in the pocket.
    Look at arshavin, he couldn’t care less if he plays or not,chamakh and Walcott to an extent have lost any consistency as have the team.the last time we really played well was when we lost 1-0 at City.

    We have enough deadwood to build 2 Noah’s Arks..

  42. Gooner In Exile says:

    I hope you’re right Dave, I really do.

    But results are one thing, performances another. I’m not sure we’ve seen performances in those games I have mentioned.

    Take Theo as one example, people assumed Thierrys arrival would help him….unfortunately it appears he has regressed to the 17 year old who used to get a cuddle before kick off.

    Time to man up all over the park, take off the cotton wool and teach them they have to fight.

    Remember Viera and Keane in the tunnel, no one was going to mess with him the rest of the team giggled with knowing smiles….they were going into battle, everyone of them. Can you say the same when you look at some of the recent performances?

  43. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    Nice reminisce lads, If we were any good, we wouldn`t have to reminisce. On the surface, the club looks in a healthy state of affairs, Rumour has it , we have £160m in the bank !. For me something is just not right, I dont know about that amount ,but surely we can £50m on a couple of quality players. Arsene Wenger is a very intelligent human being and if he`s not spending that sort of money, then there`s something wrong higher up, alas we are not privvy to the imformation, oh for some transparancy, so that we would at least know the reasons why and be able to sympathise.
    I am a Wengerite, but saying that, he can really piss me off at times, (eg, Verm and Santos playing the last CL game, I`d bet money that 100% of us on here wouldn`t have played them ) but that is normal, my family piss me off at time`s , but i still love them, and i see Arsenal and Arsene as my family .
    This is my take on it all.
    Arsenal are constipated , we need to bring in a few new laxatives to remove the old shit that is clogging up the bowels of this club.
    The new Laxatives, I think alot of us know who we want, as long as they are Harrods quality and not that of Lidl`s, but a top notch “super quality laxative” will lift the place.
    The old shit. Some are decent player`s, and for what ever reason, being it lazy, wrong position, not had a chance, injury prone etc, it`s time to call it a day . I dont care whether we let them go for nothing, sell them, loan them,murder them, whatever, bye bye.
    Are we, The Arsenal Football Club or The Anal Footballers Club (anagram).

  44. Arsedave says:


    I agree with you to a certain extent but I feel that some players need a rest, but we haven’t got the quality to bring in to let players like Theo, Aaaron and Singa have a rest for a couple of games. To me they look a bit stale both physically and mentally.

    Before he left, Gervinho’s finishing since August has been awful as well. He should have bagged at least 8 more goals.

    Agree with Brigham now from November when he said Chamakh and AA should now go. Didn’t at the time but agree now.

  45. Arsedave says:


    Love the snow story by the way.

    Have you cut and paste that list of players from 2010?

  46. TotalArsenal says:

    Morning AA’ers, I should have known that the real pain and disappointment of a lost game usually comes out two days after it. In hindsight, a post with a summary of all that we deem to be wrong with the club right now, would have been a lot better for today. But I would not qualify for such a type of post.

    WIthout any doubt there are things that need improving at the club, but which club is not in the same position as Arsenal right now. Any club is only two defeats in a row away from a similar treatment.

    For me the psychological effect of starting to pick on all the things we think are wrong, in the middle of the season and before such a big game against the Mancs, is not productive. It will also make us only more miserable. However, I understand it has to happen, but it is not for me.

    Let’s get this day over with, and hopefully tomorrow we can talk again about our strengths that we will bring to our next encounter with a team that is as mundane as anything, and has been for many years now, but champions us anytime when it comes to leaving a lost game behind and picking themselves up again.

  47. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    cut and paste ?, cut a pasty this morning !, as for Snow story, that was my Ghost writer, Redders ! 🙂

  48. Gooner In Exile says:

    TA I agree this isn’t the best time for malaise, but for me it isn’t the best time to eulogise a returning hero either, especially because the signing of the hero IMO allowed the club to breathe easier through the transfer window as they could at least say they did something. If that something is to be in place of something more concrete then I am disappointed.

    Wenger surely knows there is a need to improve the squad but the board appear not to be relinquishing funds, again disappointing, that Wenger is so loyal to the club is something he deserves enormous credit for, I think other managers would have walked a long time ago.

    I admit we are struggling with fit players, and know that this is not our first team, but reserve players should be staking a claim for the first team shirt when asked to start. They don’t appear to step up, which in turn means the starters have no real pressure on their starting position.

    Is it too much to ask for them to play with some fight and pride.

    It takes a lot for me to become so critical of our club and players, but I have questions I want answers. It may be that we are all guessing but looking at Fulham/Leeds and Swansea game I find it difficult to see a real team harmony in those performances.

  49. Herb'sArmy says:

    Hi all,
    you have to experience the pain to fully appreciate the high’s TA. It’s always easier to chat/debate after winning, much more difficult after a soul-destroying defeat.
    I don’t imagine it happening, but I’ve said it before, I’d love to see Paul Lambert in the job. If he can take Norwich from the third-tier to the PL in successive seasons, and having them hold their own in the top half, the possibilities of what he could do for Arsenal are endless.

  50. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    Some people say, the EPL is tougher because the average teams have got a lot better, I diagree, IMO only two teams have really got better, thats City (through money ) and the Spuds ( credit where it`s due , Mr whealer dealer ). Dippers, their below us, and we`re having a tough time, their in decline. Chavs , not the force they once were, in decline, but will spend to rectify. Man u, what are they ?, one point worse than last season and still in the race, the Champions with a good team but nothing special but with their second highest points total ever at the half way mark, just a good team !, what does that make the rest of us ?. Even the C**t that he is, there manager doesn`t take any shit, he has his weapon of blow destruction , a feared boss, who the players are scared to let down .Tactics, formation, shape and discipline, their trophy cabinet doesn`t lie. We have Gazidas saying, ” dont worry about CL qualification ,it`s ok, take it easy ,enjoy yourselves”. I wonder what Ferguson would think of that ?


    Cornwall, i know were having a serious discussion today, but your quip about the man at the window reminded me of sometthing that happened back in the mid eighties. I cant remember the game but i think it was shefield Utd away in the cup. We got back to Euston or Kings Cross (cant remember) and after getting off the train a hoard of gooners, me included, headed straight for the toilet. There was plenty of urinals in this bog but most had been snapped up by piss hungry gooners, with the exception of 2 which were either side of this tall looking geezer with a long mac (columbo style). i obviously took advantage and went into one of these spaces. now i might not remember the game or the station but what happend next i will most certainly never forget. As soon as i started doing the business the gooner to my left started laughing and i noticed he was keeping a bit of a distance to me. I looked to my right and some other gooners were also cracking up. Before i had time to register what was going the tall geezer with the mac let out an unholy groan and then alarm bells were truly ringing. I looked down at his feet and noticed that he had no shoes or socks on. Now this bloke was young, probably in his mid twenties and very tall, 6, 4 maybe with long hair and did not look the type but under the Mac he was jerking off like a train. I quickly started zipping my fly when he stopped jerking to let out a massive yell of ahhhhhhhhh with both arms extended vulture like with the mac now acting as some sort of crazy wings. I was in the clear of him by then, and it was then that 2 gooners, who i knew were part of Arsenals firm came over and started pissing on him. i quickly exited the bogs and heard a massive screech in the background and to this day am not sure if the screech was a result of a pasting he was receiving or if it was just another yell of ecstasy whilst he was flapping his vulture like wings.

  52. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    Brilliant (in a funny way ) Terry, 😆
    All them years ago and now you talk to Redders , as if nothing happened ! 😆
    sorted your ticket`s out yet ?

  53. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    I will be backwards and forwards, as I`m drawing some plans up !

  54. goonermichael says:

    That is quite disturbing

  55. Gooner In Exile says:

    Herb interesting re Lambert but why him over Rogers or Martinez. Or Klopp.

    All have proven themselves, as has Wenger.

    But there are levels within management.

    Hughes can keep a side in the PL but has proven he did not have what it took at the very top. Warnock can get teams out of the Championship but can’t keep them in the PL. Hence the recent change at QPR.

    But I fear the appointment of Lambert or similar will be seen by many fans to be the same as the signing of Jenkinson. Evidence of an ambitionless board…..

    It’s why young players become difficult to introduce, fans want ready made Henry’s or Ljungbergs and unfortunately have run out of patience with youngsters stepping up (that is unless they have a breakthrough season like Jack did).

  56. Quite a few subjects have come up this morning that could be expanded on to be new posts. We’re going to need posts this week so don’t be shy, email me if you have time to write something for us.

  57. goonermichael says:

    Too many Arsenal fans are ok with youngsters if the mancs buy them or they are all over the press like hazard or goetze. A lot of fans slaughtered the fact that we spent a lot on OX. I just think a lot of people are naturally moaners.

  58. Herb'sArmy says:

    Hi GiE,
    because I think Lambert can give us back some steel, and I’d prefer a British manager. Lambert’s Colchester side thrashed Norwich 7-1 in League 1, then Norwich appointed him, and they’ve been climbing ever since.
    Why would an intelligent manager set his whole tactical philosophy around one player, then continue with those tactics after the player has left? And don’t forget, before the 8-2, Wenger was prepared to take us into the season with only Traore and the terminally injured Gibbs.We could have had Enrique from Newcastle for £7m, but not us! We had to wait until the last day to pay £1m less for someone older, and who is now injured until March. Why didn’t Wenger realise that Traore wasn’t up to it before the OT slaughter? He’s paid the highest salary in the PL to work things like that out.

  59. Gooner In Exile says:

    “I just think a lot of people are naturally moaners.”

    That may be the most accurate comment of the day GM.

    We all like a good moan time and again.

  60. goonermichael says:

    I’m the biggest of the lot GIE. I love it!!

  61. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    I had the “sort of” inside imfo on Ox, before we bought him and he is going to be the “biz “. If by the time our FB`s and Jack gets back and were out of it, I`d love to see the “hungry ” youngsters take over ,added with a splash of RVP, Verm,Kos (even though their not young, they have grit for a fight ). Jack, Cog ,Pong, Jenkinson ,Ox,Chesney and Ramsey, are all young but they all want it badly, “the eye of the Tiger “, where as some of the others have “the eye of a fluffy pussycat “, added with some quality signing`s and next year we could challenge, but he needs to get the cheque book out , before it`s too late.


    Apologies if i disturbed any body with my earlier story (sorry GM), it certainly disturbed me at the time.

  63. goonermichael says:

    Herb. If Wenger goes I’d be prepared to give Lambert a try. The fact that Santos is injured is neither here nor there though.

  64. VCC says:

    GLiC 11:43. Damn right old chap. Get yourself up to the Grove and demand to speak to Mr.Wenger and you tell him.

    Like you GLiC, I am a Wenger fan, he is almost God in my house, but he is prone to be what appears on the outside a stubborn man. I do not totally buy into this theory that his hands are tied and the board will not give him any money, agreed he has limited funds but surely he must see the deadwood (sorry GM) As I said to Rasp yesterday, get rid of the dross, even if it means giving them away. Lets face it who is going to buy Bendtner/Almunia/Arshavin/Chamakh etc. Ship them out and bring in some fresh faces.
    As almost everyone on here is saying we are just two players short of title contenders.

    Kelsey = “We have enough deadwood (sorry again GM) to build 2 Noah’s Arks, ….how true.

  65. goonermichael says:

    I got a right kicking that day. I’ll never forget it. Still can’t remeber what happened to my shoes though. 🙂

  66. goonermichael says:

    Twitter is saying Chavs have got hazard

  67. goonermichael says:

    My motion plus attachment for my wii just arrived so I can get lost in Legend of Zelda skyward sword and forget about football for a few days.

  68. Herb'sArmy says:

    Hi GM,
    the point isn’t so much about Santos, it’s more about how our whole strategy has been allowed to become such a mess. Wenger should already have known that Traore wasn’t good enough, and that Gibbs is made of glass, instead of going into such a huge fixture so massively handicapped. Had he bought Enrique, that particular problem would have been solved.

  69. goonermichael says:

    I agree Herb but if we’d bought Enrique he could be injured. The events leadfing up to the manc and BB defeats were a disater and although it may not all be down to Wenger the buck has to stop somewhere. I would have got rid of febregas a year earlier and spent the money on a big player. We could have had Mata at least.

  70. goonermichael says:

    How many games has gibbs played this season?

  71. Gooner In Exile says:

    Because we know Enrique would have signed for us? And because we know the board were falling over themselves to give Wenger money to spend he just was too stubborn?

    That’s the problem Herb. Wenger didn’t want to sell Cesc and he didn’t want to sell Nasri. The club let him down. They didn’t “have” to sell, altho admittedly we could have had a similar situation to Tevez I think within a few weeks Cesc would have been playing at his normal level again, it’s the type of player he is.

  72. goonermichael says:


  73. Herb'sArmy says:

    For that to happen GM, we have to have an ambitious owner/board,
    I’m not sure we have that right now. It wouldn’t surprise me if Kroenke was using some of Arsenal’s money to fund his sporting assets across the pond.

  74. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    I`ve got 50 years of love for this club ( what was I doing for the first 5 years ?, the wilderness years ,sucking my thumb and other things ), and think I deserve an opinion, so me and you will go and knock on his door. Knock , knock,…who`s there ?……VCC……ahh, victory comes through harmony,… what do you want ?……”.no victories ,we want ourmoney back (harmony geddit )”. 🙂

  75. goonermichael says:

    They had to sell Nasri or lose him for nothing like flamini. Cesc wanted out so they did the right thing but a year too late.

  76. chas says:

    If only we’d spent that extra 10 bob on Alonso!

    Well done TA and Illybongani.

    Had you ex wife learnt any new tricks?

  77. VCC says:

    GLiC. Get back to your plans, you are spending far too much time on here.
    Mrs GLiC will find out tonight and she will go ballistic.

  78. goonermichael says:

    Actually with cesc if you are going to do what the spuds did with modric that’s fine. If you’re going to let him go sell him early and get replacements or at least say to barca “this is the price pay up or shut up you cheap catalan c**ts”

  79. Gooner In Exile says:

    Herb, that’s a big accusation and I would ask how he has done it. 6 month balance sheet will be out soon and we will see whether that has happened.

    The fact is US Sports operate in an entirely different way with salary caps and without transfer fees. If there is an impasse with Wenger it will be that Kroenke believes we can make swap deals as is common place in the US franchise sports. Not so much in the football arena, and also in American sports all teams share the leagues revenue.

  80. Herb'sArmy says:

    I think Fabregas’ absence at Fulham to attend the Spanish Grand Prix on the last day of last season said it all, GiE. He was under contract, and we didn’t need to sell, but I think he’d already made his mind up.
    I’m not sorry to see the back of Nasri, I thought that was good business, but they should have re-invested that money back into the squad immediately.

  81. goonermichael says:

    He was our captain at that time too Herb. It’s well known on here that I really dislike him. In fact I have as much respect for nasri as I do for him.

  82. Herb'sArmy says:

    I’m not saying he has GiE, I’m saying it wouldn’t surprise me if he had. How many times has he been over to see us? Twice? Hardly what you’d call commitment to the cause, is it.

  83. Herb'sArmy says:

    If only Wenger could remember how to be a winning manager again Chas…

  84. VCC says:

    Herb. I think he is so stubborn he will not admit he has got it wrong. (at times)

  85. Danny says:

    What’s wrong with this picture?
    4th December 2010 – only 13 months ago, Arsenal were top of the league.
    Fast forward to the present day…….

  86. Herb'sArmy says:

    That’s French arrogance for you VCC.

  87. goonermichael says:

    Wher is the picture Danny? You forgot the link

  88. Herb'sArmy says:

    The same manager who said Almunia should play for England, Walcott was comparable to Messi, and that Denilson & Diaby were going to become world-class.

  89. Danny says:

    I wasn’t intending to post one but this will do……..

  90. tomstoned says:

    not sure about Henry and my point of view may not be shared with other Gooners

    Henry a legend ? well he may well be,still, a far way off real Legends like Adams,Bergkamp.
    i will never forgive Henry for leaving…moneygrabbin of course he was,wenger paid henry quite alot for staying his last year,what really upsets me with Henry’s transfer to the *whores from catalunia*,was that he didnt show any respect for The Arsenal…just the same way that ingrat cesc…they had it all and still they jumped ship,
    one might think that they didnt believe in wenger anymore…

    us bringing Henry back is nothing less than shameful,and dont believe for a second that its just to help us,he is paid quite handsomely….still quite cheaper than adressing the problem..we need a top class striker…
    The Arsenal are being built down…
    Our ridicilus owner,Our shit board seems to be more than happy just as long as the money keeps rolling in…and doesnt give a s*it about the football side of Our club…

    and back to Henry….he shows just how bad we have gotten…to me its just another nail in the coffin…personally i think we are being milked and i do not for one second believe we have any money for buying players…we have been reduced to take poor players on loan..and hanging on to players that clearly isnt good enough..

    i do envy all the Gooners who are satisfied and happy with Our situation….who think its all good,who easily accepts that fourth is a great achievement,who thinks wenger is God,who believes cesc and henry showed Our Beloved the respect and love this club deserves,who thinks the board are doing a fine job,and believes kroenke is a Gooner at heart and loves listening to (?)azidis sweet talking rubbish…

  91. goonermichael says:

    i do envy all the Gooners who are satisfied and happy with Our situation….who think its all good,who easily accepts that fourth is a great achievement,who thinks wenger is God,who believes cesc and henry showed Our Beloved the respect and love this club deserves,who thinks the board are doing a fine job,and believes kroenke is a Gooner at heart and loves listening to (?)azidis sweet talking rubbish…

    There are none of those on here Tom

    Where are you in Norway?

  92. tomstoned says:

    lets hope not ; abit off on and off(work),im from up North..Kirkenes :)i saw your question the other day mate,sorry for the late reply…

  93. Crikey TomS – you’re virtually next to the russian border and on the northern most land mass before the arctic circle.

    Bbbrrrr !!

  94. …….. still nagging for posts …………………

  95. goonermichael says:

    I actuially do think Henry is a legend. Bergkamp and Adams finished thier careers with us. That isn’t going to happen much in the future.

    Henry is our all time top scorer
    He won trophies with us
    He definitely gave us his best years (unlike cesc)
    When he left he was a bit of a crock

    He is covering for Gervinho. Wenger (or the board) don’t want/don’t want to pay for/don’t think we need a striker.

  96. Oh dear, they should sit where I sit. I wonder if Gerv misses as many chances in training …….. maybe the game in front of a crowd is just too big for him?

  97. kelsey – when you get back from having a lovely Birthday lunch in the warm winter sun can you get back on here because I have some questions for you please …….

  98. goonermichael says:

    So it’s dark most of the time in winter and light in the summer. You haven’t got SAD I hope. I like Stavanger and Trondheim but Oslo is one of the worst places I’ve been to.

  99. Hello Peachy 🙂

    I’ll be seeing you at the Blackburn game, possibly my boys also.

  100. Too many legs …….. back in a while ………

  101. Thats good chary, Irish will be here too 🙂

  102. tomstoned says:

    yes its abit on the end of the world mate ;still its quite beautiful up here,cold though ;..send me Arsahvin and i will show him the way ; not saying Henry was a poor player and i did love him,still he is never going to be up there with Adams,Bergkamp,and im still upset with the way he jumped ship for the *cash*and i dont quite believe him when he says he loves Our Beloved sorry…cesc..oh my..what a disgrace !

    and admit it mate We do NEED a striker..a real striker not glue ;

  103. goonermichael says:

    I didn’t say we don’t need a striker. That’s the board/Wenger. I think he is waiting for Campbell who does look good. I don’t understand signing Park though. He could stay in the reserves if it was all about shirts.

  104. You must feel a bit isolated there TomS, sure it’s really pretty in a harsh/bleak sort of way though.

    I was on FB with Maire the other day Peachy, saying she’d be other for that, she’s got quite a party coming over with her by the sound of it.

  105. tomstoned says:


    Oslo is not a very nice city, hasnt been for quite a while,expensive and well..
    not sad mate ;we’re used to it…but thanks for the concern 🙂

  106. goonermichael says:

    I was suprised by the number of junkies in Oslo and the people I worked with were horrible.

  107. tomstoned says:

    isolated Charybdis..

    nope :)its a way of life and you’ll get used to it…i think ;winter is harsh..summer is cold,my high points of the year is two trips to London each year watching Our Beloved Arsenal..and a yearly hunting trip to Svalbard 🙂

  108. tomstoned says:

    goonermichael well Oslo is just like any other socalled big city,and i have to say that Norwegians usually are nice,next time you should travel up sure you would enjoy the nature and the people mate..and Yes we do have pubs 😉

  109. TomS, you’re made of sterner stuff than me my friend, I’d feel defeated by the elements.
    Still the open-ness and solitude has it’s own majesty I’d imagine.
    I think they filmed the ice planet of Hoth scenes for The Empire Strikes Back not far from there.

  110. goonermichael says:

    I loved Stavanger and Trondheim. I liked Norwegians in general. I worked with a hairdressing chain called nikita. The owner is called Inger Ellen and she is a very hard woman.

  111. goonermichael says:

    Joe Tilley @Tilley_96 3m
    Reply RetweetedRetweet
    FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details Haha today is a classic transfer day. Cisse joins Newcastle. Arsenal fans YouTube Cisse. ‘WHY DIDN’T YOU SIGN HIM WENGER, ARSENE OUT!’

  112. goonermichael says:

    I thought I was gioing to die of hypowhatsit twice in Norway. Mind you I was dressed. The models had mini skirts on 🙂

  113. tomstoned says:


    im sure you would be just fine mate and me i was born here one gets used to it….and mate we can tackle anything we’re Goners right ;come heaven or hell we’ll still be standing tall ..always.

    goonermichael do you know why the hairdresser chain was named Nikita !…its named after Elton Johns song whp was Ellen’s favourite song ;..She is well known in Norway and yes she is very competitive…Trondheim is a great city…they even had a reasonable football team Rosenborg who was in the CL at least 10 succesive years..and beat Milan at San Siro…but not that good anymore im afraid..

  114. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    Sounds like frozen clunge !

  115. goonermichael says:

    I know about Nikita Tom. I was a dirctor of Nikita UK with Inger Ellen. I used to hate telling people why we were called Nikita as elton john is so naff. Inger Ellen is ok Very straight and direct. You always know where you stand. Some of the people working for her were shits though. I’ve been on Norwegian TV a few times for Nikita.

  116. goonermichael says:

    gie. I think it was.

  117. tomstoned says:

    goonermichael i will never bring it up again mate ;)and you know her better than me then…
    well i’ll be off for a while,lets hope this situation at Our Beloved Arsenal is taken care off…sooner rather than later,
    nice chatting with you mate..laters

  118. goonermichael says:

    Wenger KnowsBest @wengerknowsbest 2m
    Reply RetweetedRetweet
    FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details Nobody is being sold. We do not want to sell our best players. If you sell Squillaci you cannot say you are a big club.

    Quite funny

  119. goonermichael says:

    See you later Tom


    Bahhhhh, i dont understand all this talk of wonderful cold climates, my mediterranean bones cant handle it. I keep the heaters on all summer and am not comfortable unless its 100 degrees farenheit.

  121. Big Raddy says:

    Good Evening (well it is here)

    I think we could see more of OC on the weekend. His 10 minute cameo was very impressive and it must be time to sub Theo earlier in the game.

    Norwegians = Pissheads (according to my neighbours)

  122. Big Raddy says:

    TMHT. Being a slaphead, I agree with you

  123. Park Royal Gooner. says:

    We are in this position because Wenger/Board have mismanged the last five transfer seasons and the tremors are now been felt.If Arsene had bought one quality player each of the last five transfer windows and let go of “Noahs Arc” Deadwood during that period today we would have been discussing something totally different.

  124. goonermichael says:

    I agree Raddy (about Ox) I’ve also met some serious drinkers from Norway and they were all women.

  125. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    I`m only happy if `im in 3 degree`s, trouble is I can never remember their name`s, when will I see them again ?

  126. Big Raddy says:

    GLIC 😀

    We get many Norwegian tourists in CPH and because a beer costs around €12 in Oslo and only (?) €8 here, they get 3 sheets to the wind in no time. Booze Cruises.

  127. goonermichael says:

    Park Royal. That sounds like common sense. You’ve bothered to read the comments too. Not seen you on here before. Are you new to this blog?

  128. kelsey says:

    Just back from the beach had a lovely lunch.Yes peaches, you rang.

  129. kelsey says:

    Park Royal was a cigarette brand 🙂

  130. Big Raddy says:

    Ahh the OAP returns.

  131. goonermichael says:

    The first time i worked in Oslo I bought my models a drink in the hotel bar. Most expensive round I ever bought

  132. goonermichael says:

    Park drive Kelsey

  133. Big Raddy says:

    GM. Nothing wrong with a hard drinking woman as long as you don’t marry her ( speaking from experience 😦 )

  134. evonne says:

    Park Royal and GM – come on, what are you saying, that in the last 5 transfer windows we didn’t buy quality??????????? Really? Then Ox, Koscielny, Arteta, TV, Gerv must be shit

  135. goonermichael says:

    There are a lot of oriental girls in Norway strangely enough. Adopted Koreans and Thais.

  136. kelsey says:

    Quite right GM, my memory and all that.

  137. kelsey – your comment earlier about players being promised a certain caliber of signing to complement their own ability can surely only apply to one man now? When Robin signed his last contract there was a lot of talk of ‘world class players being promised’, I hope there aren’t noises from other players about a lack of class around them!

    Come on ……. what do you know?

  138. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    I know It`s a bit late, but happy birthday kelsey, there`s been a few reference`s today, about the first cruise you went on, anyway ,what was Noah like ? 😆

  139. Herb'sArmy says:

    Happy birthday if you’re still around Kelsey.

  140. Big Raddy says:

    GLIC You are on fire today

  141. kelsey says:


    rvp, Walcott and Song are all asking questions and let’s be honest why doesn’t Gazidis our his henchman Laws say something or rather do something.We need a marque not a marque signing.I think AW will walk away at the end of the season, as i said before he doesn’t control the purse strings.My understanding is that he just isn’t allowed to spend unless he sells first and the only 2 of any real value are arshavin and walcott, leaving aside rvp who I think will stay.

  142. Someone said earlier that there will always be a section of fans that only want Vieiras and Bergkamps – well they have to be allowed to develop.

    Kozzer raised a few eyebrows when he was signed but I wouldn’t swap him for any other centre-back – he drove the team forward on Sunday when others wanted to hide.

    There were those that poured scorn on the signing of Vermaelen but look how we miss him now.

    I’m disappointed with Song though, he’s really not with us atm, love to know why.

  143. kelsey says:

    Ay least Noah had everything covered, he had two of everything, you cheeky monkey 🙂

  144. Herb'sArmy says:

    If Walcott was still at Southampton, Nigel Adkins would be getting rid of him.

  145. I hope you’re right about RvP 😉

    kelsey – take no notice of those that harp on about arks just remember that when you get back to rainy London those Big Red Buses will be waiting for you 😆


    Happy Birthday Kelsey…..Now whats this inside info that you know?

    So basicaly, without wishing to offend, Norway is bloody freezing and it costs £12 a pint. Think i will stick with Greece, the locals are so skint now, that i could probably buy a pub out there for 1 goat and 2 chickens.

  147. Big Raddy says:

    kelsey. Not satisfied with 7 summer signings? OK, some of them haven’t sparked as we would like but what would you prefer? 2 x €25m players or what we bought?

    IMO Jenkinson has potential, OC is going to be a major star, BFG has added an extra dimension to our squad as has Arteta. Santos would undoubtedly have been our first choice LB and one with an attacking quality we have lacked since Ashley.

    Bennie of loan, Park just loose change. I think AW did well.

  148. Herb'sArmy says:

    That’s some sterling defence there Raddy.

  149. LB says:

    GM @1.25pm

    Comment of the day for me.

  150. RockyLives says:

    There’s one in drafts.

    TA and Illy
    Thanks for the Posts. I share TA’s excitement for the moment that Thierry gave us against Leeds, and Illy’s nostalgia for the days when we had world class players all over the pitch… 😦

  151. evonne says:

    Chas!!!! Oi Chas!!! Where are you??? No pics no vids 😦

  152. kelsey says:

    Thanks all for the good wishes.

    If things don’t change soon there will be another titanic.

    I hope we beat United but that is absolutely no good unless we get a real run of good wins together,which at present seems unlikely.

    How often recently have you seen the team just stumble out of the blocks, are slow on the counter attack and tire in the lat 15 minutes or just run out of ideas. wayward passing and generally pretty poor display all round.
    What has happened to our Arsenal.?
    There is no definite direction from either AW or the training staff or the BoD. I honestly support the club as it has been my life but i feel we are heading towards our worst season under Wenger. I am not blaming him entirely as i am sure many players he targeted just didn’t want to join or we couldn’t afford the wage. dempsey doesn’t fit into any of those categories as he is on 28k a week but saw no future in leaving fulham and coming to us. that tells me a lot.

  153. evonne says:

    Rocky – I am sorry, but i didn’t read your post yesterday. I am not ready to relive the black Sunday yet. Sorry

  154. kelsey says:

    yes potential once again in some cases but mertasacker is not the type of player that fits into our system.gervinho will be a success once he sorts his feet out, but squad wise we are not top 4 or anything like it.

  155. evonne says:

    Kelsey – so who are the top 4 in your opinion? I don’t want to spoil your birthday, but the only teams that play better than us (except for Sunday bleep) are Shitty and Scum

  156. kelsey says:

    and we have conceded more goals away than any other team,which also does not bode well. I know we lost all our full backs but look at the gaps at the back last Sunday.

    We really are down to the bare bones and the points between us and the top four us ever increasing. I have written this season off due to many circumstances,some were just hard luck others were by not careful planning at least 18 months ago.

  157. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    I`ve got this image of you, your like one of them “Cockney spiv`s” who walk into a pub and open their coat to reveal a load of dangling dodgy watches, but and here`s the but, I can see you walking in “The Tavern”, looking for a “Big Raddy”, opening up your coat, to reveal a load of dangling dodgy syrup`s, ” looking for a syrup mate, only the finest Cretian goats hair, with full building reg`s insulation for those cold Danish winter morning`s ” 🙂

    Your story about your first encounter with Redders may have left you scarred, but I had to show Mrs glic, It was so funny. 🙂

  158. kelsey says:

    evonne, i think as it is now, though i hope i am wrong.

  159. RockyLives says:

    Happy Birthday Kelsey
    “Hip Hip… Replacement” 🙂

  160. RockyLives says:

    You are forgiven
    I didn’t read it either 🙂

  161. kelsey says:

    Nice one RL, it’s not my hips, it’s my bowls and they are red aswell.

  162. goonermichael says:

    Happy birthday Kelsey
    Talking of arks reminds me of an old joke where God says to Noah we need to build another Ark but this time I want it built in layers and I only want fish namely Koi. Noah asked why and he said.

    It’s a multi storey carp ark

    boom boom

  163. goonermichael says:

    Joseph Barton @Joey7Barton 3m
    Reply RetweetedRetweet
    FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details If I was heiress to a global hotel fortune, I wouldn’t be sucking off some knob head on camera for a raise in profile. Maybe that’s just me?

    joey barton really is a dickhead

  164. Big Raddy says:

    kelsey. Take out the 12 conceded in bizarre fashion MU & B’burn) and our defence has coped well. I know you agree that our problems lie elsewhere. I disagree about BFG – I like him.

  165. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    Since 1996, only one team/manager has had a better overall record than Arsene Wenger. Well done Arsene, you`ve gave us such high standards, that now were after your blood. You wont be given a bad season or a second chance !.

  166. goonermichael says:

    glic. It’s not that bad. Who’s after his blood?

  167. evonne says:

    GM – so is Paris Hilton 🙂

    Thank you Rocky, when I am over the pain I will read it, maybe tomorrow 🙂

  168. goonermichael says:

    I agree about Paris Hilton evonne but I find her sexy for some reason. Mind you I like victoria beckham so I’m probably not a great judge.

  169. evonne says:

    Don’t worry GM, I like Rory Delap 🙂

  170. Big Raddy says:

    RL. Apologies for not responding to your Deep Purple enquiry.

    I cannot say how they will be BUT …

    this last year I have gone to concerts by bands who were heroes in my youth – ZZ Top, Jethro Tull, The Who, Doobie Bros. and all of them were pedestrian. They can still play and to a certain extent sing but they cannot reproduce the fireworks …. in the words of Spinal Tap, their amps no longer go to 11.

    I would save my money and recall them in their pomp.

    SpeedKing being played by pensioners – Nay, Nay and Thrice Nay 🙂

  171. goonermichael says:

    Gooner Tom @GoonerTom13 1m
    Reply RetweetedRetweet
    FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details @Joey7Barton @parishilton As if you wouldn’t! You clearly don’t deserve the cock you were born with (and I don’t mean the one on your head).

  172. kelsey says:

    Cold Play at The Emirates 🙂

  173. goonermichael says:

    I went to see David Bowie in the Milton Keynes bowl in the 80s and he’d already lost it then. I find a lot of those people embarrassing.

  174. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    Sorry gm, It`s not aimed at 99% on here, I was unfaithfull and looked at another site but wont comment on there, as I`d only end up in a ding dong . I shall just stay on here, where the good guys and girls are !

  175. kelsey says:

    I would rather have had Samba than Mert, but believe me the problem runs through the club. You can’t take away those 12 goals Raddy, freakish or not.
    Someone said we had 160 million spare cash, no we don’t but roughly 35 million + the Noah Ark squad.

  176. kelsey says:

    I read yogi every day, a very pro arsenal and arsene faithful,yet in the last few weeks he is questioning many things as well.That was never his style. Goonerholic another respected site says to an extent what i am saying and he has connections.

    We need to be realistic , stay calm and support whatever the season brings.

  177. goonermichael says:

    Those people have been saying the same thing for years

  178. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    There was someone on there, his name rhymes with Tampon, who said he wished Wenger would die, I`ve gone numb ! 😦

  179. kelsey says:


    oh I know who you mean.he has been consistant in his approach to Arsenal for years. that’s quite a mild comment from him.

  180. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    He`s very modest aswell, said he`s the biggest thing since Jesus, and i think he means it !

  181. RockyLives says:

    Thanks BR
    I’ll probably give DP a miss, but I always go and see Tull when they’re in town.
    As you say, it’s not the same buzz as the old days – but still enjoyable like a comfortable, worn pair of slippers. But don’t tell Ian Anderson I said that.

  182. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    I see Arsenal have offered RVP`s 5 year old son Shaqueel a trial, Robin say`s he is very good and takes after him. Owen Coyle has already been on the phone to Wenger about a season long loan deal !

  183. goonermichael says:

    I stopped going on there because of him

  184. Jamie says:

    Kelsey – agree with your 11:35. Everything I have been wanting to say but couldn’t work out how.

    Though I can’t agree on PM4 – think he has been better than the Djourou/Squillaci alternative.

    Just ponder this, we have a manager that doesn’t like transfer windows, most of the players can’t play twice a week let alone three times, we have a massive wage bill and yet can’t find money for transfers or money to tempt good players to stay, but we can find 70000 a week to loan Henry, oh plus insurance, it is a club the built a stadium, we have a manager that has been fantastic but the board are willing to let him hang for there own tightness.

    We are a club living in the modern game not a club enjoying the modern game and we need to change that.

    The club need to see transfer windows as an opertunity, and fixture pile up as a sign off success not being petrified of the hard work.

    The effort from Arshavin, Squillaci, Chamakh at times is disgraceful.

    Walcott needs to play a different way.

    We are not coping with the financial, physical of mental side of the modern game. The club, manager and players need to have a long hard look at themselves and where they are going.

    Ask yourself why Arshavin is being allowed to get away with being overweight for the last two years?

    Ask yourself who let Nasri’s contract slide? Wenger? I doubt it.

    Ask yourself why the team lack stamina, when we supposedly have the best facilities around?

    None of it adds up, everyone from Kroenke, Gazidis,Wenger, the players and the anxious fans who scream in the final minutes or the morons the shout shoot all the time, or even those of us that get too nervous and stay silent when the team needs us. We have all played our part in the downward spiral of the last seven years.

    4th is still attainable but things must change.

    Forget who is injured, though god we miss them. Injuries are excuses, like a bad pitch or a poor ref, or an unpunished bad tackle.

    We went in to the season unprepared and now have 9/10 injuries. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.

    You make your own luck in this world and it is time that our put upon football club and it’s manager/ board, fans and over paid players got off there backsides, made some signings,made some noise and got some effing results.

    Time to lead, time for all of us. Bring on United. All is not lost

  185. Herb'sArmy says:

    They are definitely OTT with their extremist views, but the dissenters are certainly growing. It would be interesting to do a straw poll among Arsenal fans to see how many still give Wenger their full support..
    It’s ok to celebrate what he has done, and they truly are remarkable achievements, but the last trophy was seven years ago.

  186. VCC says:

    Sorry i’m late. Happy Birthday Kelsey.

  187. FurFox Sake says:

    Is it true. Did wenger really say he cant sell Squilaci cos we werent be a big club. wassat all about then but buyin kaloo fromthe chavs makes us big then done it. a big club allus makes me bonce hurt

  188. evonne says:

    FurFox – have we bought kalou ?? When??

  189. FurFox Sake says:

    dunno but Gimme Arsenal got something about a hitch in signin kaloo.we shuld blow him off in my opiniun

  190. gooner lost in cornwall says:

    Nice passion Jamie ! 🙂
    Herb ,
    Back then, I dont suppose many could foresee the Chav and now City factor, I`m sure we would have won more trophy`s If Abramovich hadn`t gatecrashed the party and started the downfall of fair competition.

  191. Gooner In Exile says:

    One thing I think no one can understand is our lack of ruthlessness.

    We took the lead against Wolves and then sat back a bit, let them equalise an then had to fight for the win, same vs Villa, same vs Fulham Away and Swansea away problem was in the last two we couldn’t change it. What I can’t understand is when we get a flying start or just a start we are not trying to push home that advantage.

    We know for a fact Wenger wants to attack he spent most of August and September trying to find the teams hand brake and release it. And he seemed to succeed but as soon as we were getting close to the top 4 again we started to see the same old pressure effect, why? What is wrong with our players confidence why do they suffer the same problems when they have lifted all our spirits. Unfortunately I think tears of being told they are bottlers has actually got in to the heads of some individuals.

  192. Gooner In Exile says:

    FurFox I’m pretty sure Arsene has already said Kalou isn’t coming.

  193. fatgingergooner says:


    The only explanation for our lack of killer instinct that I can see is a lack of confidence. The team have done well to climb upto 4th but the performances have still been shakey in that period and far from convincing. We look like a nervous team that are worried about slipping back into the bad habits we had at the end of last season/beginning of this.

  194. FurFox Sake says:

    Does this sound a bit familar.

    “Kroenke noted that his commitment to St. Louis as part of the Rams ownership group is nearing 20 years.
    “I haven’t taken a lot of jack out of this market,” Kroenke, pointedly referencing negative media coverage of this matter. “I’ve put a lot of jack into it.”
    That financial commitment included giving Fisher (new coach) a five-year, $35 million contract and the budget needed to assemble a top-notch staff. This was his first big hire since becoming majority owner of the franchise.
    Kroenke’s vision for franchise management and his commitment to winning won over Fisher.
    “We met several weeks ago, spent a day together,” Fisher said. “I felt philosophically we were on the same page.”

    There is plenty of heavy lifting to do, since the Rams haven’t posted a winning record since 2003.
    “There’s quite a challenge ahead to become competitive in the division again,” Fisher said. But, he added, “It won’t take long.”

  195. Herb'sArmy says:

    True GliC, but since May 2010 we’ve had real money to spend. And perhaps a little more clarity from the club itself would help. Wenger has said we can’t compete financially with City and Chelsea, but what he has never said is that we are not in the title-race. Just before the Carling Cup final with Birmingham, Wenger was very bullish about our chances of doing the ‘Quadruple’.
    So which is it? Do the club con us into thinking we are genuine title-contenders to sell season-tickets, but secretly within, accept that we’re fighting for anywhere between 3rd and 6th, or do they have the courage of their convictions and believe whole-heartedly that their combined intelligence will be enough to make up the gulf in finances, and that we are genuine contenders?

  196. Herb'sArmy says:

    The funniest thing I read in 2011 was on ‘Le Grove’.
    I cant remember who posted it, but it was something like:

    ” Spuds have lost 1-0 to Kaiser Chiefs.

    How will they cope?

    I predict a riot!”

  197. Gooner In Exile says:

    “Do the club con us into thinking we are genuine title-contenders to sell season-tickets,”

    I have a problem with this sentence. Because we buy Season Tickets we should expect trophies….btw don’t mention expensive we have as many reasonably priced (if not more) than Spurs and Chelsea.

    Just to clarify I have never expected anything because I paid for entry. I expect commitment from the players as much as I love the club that’s all I ask. But I’d ask that whether I was paying for a ticket or not.

  198. Maybe all the teams since 2004 feel that they are in the Invicibles shadow although we did get to the Champs lge final in 2006.

    In 2008 when we beat AC Milan it was widely reported that they had told our young team to go on and win it. We believed in them then. Losing Hleb, Flamini and Gilberto that summer is what turned me to the blogs for a better understanding and all I found were like minded souls that also really couldn’t understand how AW had allowed that to happen.


    Top man GiE.


    We will win the league next season. Arsene and the club know what there doing. The funny thing is that the owners and management of our premeirship rivals know it to but a large core of our support dont.

  201. Gooner In Exile says:

    Just to clarify FGG this is the run of results we went on after losing to Blackburn:

    CC…H…..Shrewsbury 3-1
    PL…H……Bolton Wanderers 3 -0
    CL…H……Olympiakos 2-1  
    PL….A…..Tottenham Hotspur 1-2
    PL….H……Sunderland 2-1
    CL…..A……Marseille 1-0
    PL……H……Stoke City 3-1
    CC……H……Bolton Wanderers 2-1
    PL…….A…….Chelsea 5-3
    CL…….H…….Marseille 0-0
    PL…….H……..W.B.A. 3-0
    PL…….A………Norwich 2-1
    CL…….H………Borussia Dortmund 2-1
    PL…….H………Fulham 1-1
    CC……H………Manchester City 0-1
    PL…….A………Wigan Athletic 4-0
    CL…….A……….Olympiacos 1-3

    A record of P17 W12 L3 D2 F35 A17

    PL was even better

    P9 W7 D1 L1 F23 A10

    Then we scratched past Everton lost to City and beat Villa to go 4th from which point you would expect the team to kick on again, we through everything at Wolves scratched another win v QPR then lost two on the bounce.

    It was like we got to 5th smashed Wigan and thought “we’re great again” and the side has relaxed, or in my mind went from “f**k it let’s just enjoy football for a season” and then when we realised we could achieve something got tense again.

    When we went on that run there was a togetherness the win at Stamford Bridge the come back against Norwich the late winner in Marseille all because a never say beaten attitude had engulfed the team. It vanished in two games.

  202. I believe what terry say`s, I`m just as nut`s says:

    CL this year, EPL nextyear, what crisis ! 🙂

  203. I says I says I says I says I says I says I says:

    I say

  204. say what say what say what say what say what say what say what says says:

    say what ?

  205. Herb'sArmy says:

    Silver-ware isn’t the be-all and end-all, GiE, I fully understand that no club has a divine right to win anything. But I do expect my club to be in the mix, challenging, looking hungry, and believing they can win it.
    The quality of our over-all squad is thread-bare. No dependable back-up Gk, no disrespect, but at 18, and having played only 9 games for Charlton, Jenkinson should be playing in the Youth team.
    We still don’t know if Gibbs is up to the required standard, or whether he has two consecutive games in him. Koscielny and Vermaelen are both top quality, no argument there, Mertesaker needs time to adjust, so we’re covered at CB. Djourou doesn’t deserve to wear an Arsenal shirt.
    Song is good and poor in equal measure, not sure he’s consistent enough for a top club. Arteta should have been bought about seven years ago, Ramsey, like Wilshere last season, is far too heavily relied upon. Walcott should be somewhere else, Benayoun is a waste of a loan, Arshavin’s body language looks like he’s wondering why or how he is still there, and when was the last time Rosicky gave us a match-winning performance? Gervinho, as with everyone, is allowed a settling in period. Oxlade-Chamberlain should be another for the future, but because of our lack of depth, will have to be used now.
    And I don’t need to labour the point about our strike-force.
    Tactically we are still set up in the formation that revolved around the now-departed Fabregas, and despite not having a suitable replacement, we persist with it anyway.
    Our manager has put together an ordinary, fragile squad that are too often bereft of hunger, desire, and any natural instincts to try and win a game.
    That might be acceptable to you, GiE, not for me.

  206. RockyLives says:

    The decline in form and results exactly coincides with the moment when we ran out of real full backs.

  207. fatgingergooner says:


    Bolton home, West Brom home and Wigan away were the only games we won by more than 2 goals. From the other games we won, on 6 occasions we were either losing or drawing after the first goal had been scored. That means we either came from behind or were pegged back after scoring first. It shows a great deal of fight but is definately not convincing.

  208. Gooner In Exile says:

    You may be right Rocky but judging by your report yesterday I’d say you missed the heart too.

    Herb, you could put Walcott in the heavily relied upon bracket. He is only 9 months older afterall.

    But your last point about acceptable is the one I struggle with. You have set a bar where you think the club should be to satisfy you. Don’t take this the wrong way, what makes you justified in setting the bar, is it ticket purchases, because you bought merchandise, because you own a share or two? What makes you entitled to demand the club you support to be challenging for trophies?

    What I accept is that I can’t change any of it, so I’d rather look at what we have and what they can do better, rather than look at what we don’t have. I’d rather support the manager and the players, and admittedly some on Sunday made it very hard to do that. But I look at the team right now (minus our stand in full backs which sorry you can’t legislate for) and say they are all good enough, IF only they would find some self belief, and some application to go with their technical ability.

  209. Herb'sArmy says:

    They should satisfy their millions of fans everywhere, GiE, because Arsenal are a big world-famous club. If they acted like it occasionally, I’m sure we’d all be a lot happier.

  210. dy says:

    I don’t think buying a super quality player is the answer, BUT, at this moment in time, with the aspiration of Arsenal going forward, a recognizable signing is imperative to lift the spirit of the team, the fans and everybody else who cares.

  211. Puri says:

    For the review of the season thus far:


  212. Big Raddy says:

    GIE. I agree entirely (almost!) with your last para. 12.21 a.m.

    I would only question your point about application. I thought the team gave their all at Swansea.

    We have the personnel but not the luck or self-belief.

  213. Ozgunner says:

    Morning all

    I just don’t know what happened (yes we have had terrible luck with injuries again…like always), but a couple of months ago we were showing fight and determination. Something we’ve heard arsene say alot but hadn’t really witnessed much. How and why did we only play one game of full team pressure (last season against Chelsea)? It’s simple if we are playing against a team who play heavily through the wings (swansea) why did theo and AA not help out? The theo from the chelsea game who looked to have turned a corner is all but a distant memory now. As kelsey and others have stated we need to clear out a hell of alot more rubbish. Our mini-revival came from a rejuvinated squad, unfortunently now it’s as though we are back to the post carling cup team.

    @ Jamie

    great comment yesterday, summed it up beautifully

  214. Gooner In Exile says:

    Morning Raddy maybe I am harsh on some to make the point about others, clearly Rambo, Koz, RvP, Miquel, BFG, JD (yes even he) put effort required into the game. There were at least three misfiring cylinders (Song, AA23 and Walcott) and Benny ran around a lot without doing much.

    We could all see the Arteta shape hole in the midfield, but this is where I get annoyed with Song. He should take a leaf out of Artetas book, but instead appeared to have learned nothing when left to his own devices.

    Theo I have once again softened on as I need to constantly remind myself of his age and then understand why sometimes he does not influence games as we like. I think watching swap shop on Arsenal Player did not help as most of the players when asked which player they would swap with they all said Theo (“he has some nice cars especially the Ferrari”)

  215. Ozgunner says:

    @ Rasp

    looks like your boy Sow has issued a ‘come get me’ to liverpool

  216. evonne says:

    GiE @9:21 – more supporters like you please! Top man!

  217. Ozgunner says:

    @ GiE

    Song clearly suffers from a lack of drive and motivation at times. Last season i felt he stagnated due to the lack of competition. During our revival he was playing really well and i think it’s no coincidence that his dip in form has occured whilst coq was playing out of position and frimpong was loaned out.

  218. kelsey says:

    Morning all.

    I don’t quite accept this arguement that as we have lost all our recognised full backs it is heavy blow. Jenkinson is a bright prospect, had a nightmare game at OT which was unfortunate and he seemed to overcome that quite well and was performing as well as he could in the absence of Sagna, but now it is unlikely he will feature again funtil the back end of the season if required. I file him as potential.

    Gibbs is not Arsenal standard and is injury prone .

    The fans have taken to Santos and he is more attack minded than any recent full back we have had, and as AW always says,these imports need time to settle in.

    Clichy as with all the others mentioned time and time again got caught out on the flanks especially when we were being attacked on the flanks, so IMO it is partially the system we employ and you can bet that SAF will target that area on Sunday.

    Djourou is clueless as a RB, so that leaves another two with potentional in Miquel, who is not a FB and Yannaharis.

    BR, our defence was awful at swansea as was swansea’s but there are too many ingrediants missing at the moment for me to think we will turn the corner.

    numerous cameo players, several good players with potential,a major dependence on RVP to score which is frightening, which leaves maybe RVP,Vermaelen,Kos,Sagna, a fit Wilshere and at least for now Arteta as our spine.

    just not good enough.

    Why did kroenke buy the shares to become major share holder ?

    I honestly think we will struggle even if we beat United,which i doubt and then what happens.

  219. Ozgunner says:

    evonne it appears bayern have inquired about your polish striker from BD. Unlikely they would sell to their biggest rival but hey if they are enquiring you know your a good player, well spotted. In saying that i don’t know if it’s your good eye or your biased nature towards every polish player except our keeper haha

  220. Ozgunner says:

    How on earth did toon capture cisse? first ba and now this!

  221. Big Raddy says:

    GIE Surely Song played his own role (whatever that is) v Swansea.

    Benayoun should have taken Arteta’s role but if there is fault to be found it should lie at AW’s door. HIs decision to play Bennie ahead of Rosicky was inexplicable IMO

  222. Big Raddy says:

    Oz. I guess no big teams were interested in him.

  223. Ozgunner says:

    @ Kelsey

    it is scary to think what united could do down our flanks, considering what swansea did the other day. The thought of valencia/nani/young against miquel and djourou time and time again is quite terrifying. Especially when they are likely to be receiving no help from walcott and AA.

  224. evonne says:

    Morning Oz – me, biased? Always!
    I knew about Lewandowski, but started paying attention when he won Player of the Year in Poland in 2011. I think he is very good, young, hard working.

    Kelsey and other doubters – I am taking bets that we will finish in top 4 this season.

  225. Ozgunner says:

    @ Herb

    you asked when the last time Rosicky played well for us? If it wasn’t for him in the champions league qualifiers we would not have made it through. He was the right choice against swansea and as a squad player i feel he still has something left in the tank to offer this team.

  226. Big Raddy says:

    evonne. Would his name fit on the back of your replica shirt?

  227. evonne says:

    Raddy – no, it wouldn’t coz I already have Oxlade-Chamberlain on it 🙂 Is this the acceptance criteria now, if the name fits?

  228. Ozgunner says:

    could be worse BR, we could of signed:
    Manuel Marouan da Costa Trindade Senoussi. If park was a marketing ploy then we could sign him also. Charge a dollar a letter and we’d be laughing all the way to the bank

  229. kelsey says:

    evonne i am not a doubter, I just am being realistic giving my own opinion.What are the odds by the way 🙂

  230. evonne says:

    Kelsey – depends how many ‘doubters’ I can afford to take on 🙂
    Did you have nice birthday?

  231. kelsey says:

    I did evonne, at least it was a pleasant 20 degress and you don’t have to book at any of the nice restaurants anymore as this place is like a ghost town.every third shop has closed down, and many ex pats have left.

  232. Big Raddy says:

    We have a diner called Noma, voted the best restaurant in the world 2 years running.

    They take booking 4 times a year – on the first of the mont and sell all their seats within 30 seconds of opening their website.

    And IF you can get a table (they are available through touts) the average cost of a meal with one bottle of wine is €250 p.p.

    In answer to your next question. Yes, I have,

  233. kelsey says:

    I read about that restaurant only last week.they actually served Xmas trees as a speciality.

  234. Puri says:

    For the review of the season thus far:


  235. evonne says:

    I will never understand all the fuss about food. Food is fuel, nothing more.
    I worked in restaurants as a young girl, some very posh and expensive (loved the Norwegian clients, their tips were higher than the bill) and I cannot get excited about food especially from any restaurant

  236. Rasp says:

    Morning all…..

    …… New post …….

  237. Puri says:

    For the review of the season thus far:


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