Norwegian Would? Or Wouldn’t? How Much Should Arsenal Spend on Odegaard?

A problem solved?

According to supposedly well informed media sources we are making an active attempt to sign Martin Odegaard from Real Madrid on a permanent basis.

The Norwegian attacking midfielder made a generally good impression during his Arsenal loan spell, although it’s fair to say he did not convince everyone that he was a “must have’ for the team moving forward.

The potential for a full transfer is unclear because of Zidane’s departure from Los Blancos, but the story has not gone away.

So, two questions:

Do you think we should sign the 22-year-old?

If so, how much should we prepared to pay for him?

On the first point, there are a few factors that weigh in favour of completing the deal if possible: Arteta really likes the player; the coaching team have had a chance to get a really good look at him up close; he will fit back in to the Arsenal set-up without any need of an adjustment or settling-in period; he’s young and would have sell-on transfer value in a few years time; his potential is high.

The factors against him: if we’re looking to move to the next level and secure Champions League football for the 22/23 season, is he the best we can get for a CAM? Not all would agree that he did enough in his loan spell to demonstrate that he is the man to bring back the glory days; signing him would be the easy option and might make us overlook the opportunity to bring in someone better.

On balance I would be up for signing him if the price makes sense, which brings us on to question two.

With sums like £30-35m being mooted for Buendia, a deal for Odegaard that did not exceed £30m would be a no-brainer in my humble opinion.

At a push I would not be unhappy to see us go to £35m for him (again, he’s young enough that he will have sell-on value in the future), but if the asking price goes much beyond that then we should be looking at alternatives.

With all the squad development that needs to happen at Arsenal during this close season (and with the distraction of the Euros delaying a lot of potential transfer activity) I can imagine that signing Odegaard would remove one big item from Arteta’s “To Do” list: he would have filled a key role with a player who will not need all the extra work of acclimatisation and adjustment that a complete newcomer would have.

An attacking line-up next season that comprised members of Auba, Saka, Pepe, Martinelli, ESR and Odegaard looks pretty fine to me (provided we can find a formation that brings the best out of Auba).

Over to you.

RockyLives

29 Responses to Norwegian Would? Or Wouldn’t? How Much Should Arsenal Spend on Odegaard?

  1. LBG says:

    Morning Rocky
    Yes try to sign him. Settled well, hard working, vision. Think Balogun’s runs will work for him.£30m for youth and potential sell on.
    Good luck “little chilli”, do us proud, but most of all stay fit.

  2. VP says:

    Sign him up, upwards £50m
    He is a starter in my futsal team

  3. Dexter says:

    Good morning!

    I’m really not sure TBH. I know Wrighty was raving about him during the season, but he kinda tailed off in terms of level and consistency in his performances, then again he is young and the premier league can take a while for players to adjust to it. Just ask Pepe! He looked well off the pace for ages and now he must be one of the 1st names on Artetas team sheet.

    So it all depends on price and who else is realistically available.

    Real were apparently suggesting 60m ffs! It would have to be half that at least, possibly structured with add ons if he turns into a gem.

    Then theres the kid at Lyon who we were linked with, again he wouldn’t be cheap (that’s if he even fancied coming to us!).
    Theres Fekir (that’s what my nan used to threaten to give me when I was naughty as a kid!) at Betis and again weve been linked with him for years! And then theres Calhanoglu on a free from Milan. But again would he sign for us? I dont get this being out of europe being a sticking point for transfers. Sure some players will want to go to a club in the CL, but the Europa? Not so sure man.

    I worry that we have bought pretty badly and on top of that Arteta has seemingly been pretty ruthless when he hasnt always needed to be. Better man management could have seen Torreira and Guendouzi be given a supportive arm round the shoulder rather than a cold shoulder! That in turn would’ve made sorting their situations out easier instead of all the acrimony there appears to be.

    Anyway I’m rambling!

    Sign Odegard for 20m plus add ons and Bissouma and sell the players that need shifting and were good to go.

    Easy peasy cheesey peas! 🤣🤣

  4. RockyLives says:

    VP – £50m – wow. You like the Lord of the Fjords, don’t you?

    Dexter – I agree the European thing is not a big factor. Undoubtedly there would be players who would only consider us if we were in the Champs League, but the Europa and the Sub-Europa? Nah.

  5. RockyLives says:

    LBG
    That’s pretty much my view.

    Ode was pretty good overall and the brief spell where his form tailed off a bit was immediately after him getting injured – it obviously took him a while to get up to speed.

  6. LBG says:

    Fred
    Since we cant afford the Turk, got a new Bellerin replacement for you to look at. TYLER ADAMS – Leipzig. Right sided fullback or wing back. An American by birth, apparently.

  7. pbarany says:

    Rocky, I have no idea how good players see the different European competitions, but from the fans’ and club’s (!) perspective we are in a major disagreement.

    I don’t think about the Champions League as prestige only.
    Those are minutes, and for a (proper) football club minutes are the nutrition of the players, thus more important in development than cash and coaching.
    We might act high and mighty that Arteta invites players from the U23 and even from the U18 to train with the first team, but without proper competitive minutes when they can test their technical abilities, decision making skills under pressure and actual man-to-man duels that don’t worth much (beyond the psychology effect of the call-up). Therefore I see a lot smaller difference between playing in the CL and the EL than between playing in the EL and not playing at all. It is as simple as having a family of 6 and trying to feed them with calories for 4. The only way to prevent undernourishment, is to ‘loan’ them to the grandparents. 🙂
    And whatever anybody thinks about the Covid-effect, or Arteta having his first managerial job, or team in transition, at the end of the day it is impossible to challenge that Mikel kind of destroyed 15.000 minutes of nutrition. About 40% of the value of a full PL season.

    This is quite a hindering factor for decent players to sign. Both the lack of minutes as well as the fact that we celebrate such manager and the fans demand a contract extension.
    When a player (who is a clear starter for both Arsenal and his national team) even considers joining a club with a different league and language, that hasn’t reach neither the CL nor the EL and is coached by José bloody Mourinho, it is a clear sign of a poor manager.

  8. RC78 says:

    I would be very happy to see Odegaard leave. He is a good player but I feel that we have ESR and eventually Willock and even Azeez that could play as a central attacking midfielder so for me, the investment in Odegaard is not worth it.

  9. RC78 says:

    Ceballos, Odegaard = Out
    Xhaka, Torreira, Guendouzi = Out

    It is a lot of players out in our midfield but we have Partey, El Neny, ESR and then we have Willock, AMN and Azeez so what we do about Willock and AMN? I think Willock definitely earned a chance at AFC and I think AMN is such a goood squad player that it would be a shame to get rid of him but if a good offer comes, we may consider it I suppose…

    Now, we must really find Partey’s partner in the midfield. Do we go for a Ndidi type of player or a Tielemans type of player?

  10. RockyLives says:

    pbarany

    Good point about it (lack of Euro footy) being more of an internal problem than a recruitment problem.

    The lack of opportunity to give playing minutes to up-and-coming squad members is the biggest drawback of missing out on Europe.

    We really need a good run in the League Cup, with a team sprinkled with the next generation players.

  11. JM says:

    My preference would be Southampton’s captain and dead ball specialist James Ward-Prowse, who can play both CM and AM (and the occasional RM and RB). (1) He could play alongside Partey. (2) In a 3-men midfield with Partey/Elneny/Chambers and Saka/Smith-Rowe/Willock etc. (3) Tactical intelligence in the role of playmaker.

    Killing 2 birds with 1 stone (i.e. filling in the CM and AM positions), I place a bid of around £45M to £60M. (since he is English, qualifies as a home-grown player, an England international and a captain material). I would even add-on any want-away player in exchange (e.g. Willock, AMN, Nketiah, Nelson, Elneny, Bellerin, Mavropanos, Kolašinac, Torreira, Guendouzi, Rúnarsson, Willian etc.) as well.

  12. Pete the Thirst says:

    I would like to resign him, but not for silly money. Maybe another year on loan? Madrid need money to fill the huge gap in their finances.

    Although when Ode played he seemed to cramp ESR’s creativity. As if they were being shoe-horned into the team without a plan for them both.

    If he comes he will need to up his attacking play and shoot more often.

  13. RC78 says:

    JM – I also like Ward-Prowse but I believe there are a lot of bloggers that do not rate him. I think he would do well in our squad.

    Leno (boo!) – RECRUIT, Holding, Gabs, Tierney – Partey, WP – Saka, ESR, Pepe – Auba (?)

    Ryan (?) – Chambers, Mavropanos, Mari, RECRUIT – AMN, El Neny, Willock – Nelson?, Balogun, Martinelli ?

  14. fred1266 says:

    Don’t watch bundes lbg so never seen him play, guessing he can’t be worse than cedric

  15. RC78 says:

    What about Zambo Anguissa?

  16. Aaron says:

    Rocky,

    A slew of good posts.

    Hard pass on Ode, unless super cheap and ESR is not played on the left or up top…

    Find some talent in the Championship or other leagues and develop them.

  17. RC78 says:

    There are some players at Fulham that may be worth a look like:
    – Areola
    – Anguissa
    – Lookmann
    – Mitrovic

    What do you make of them? I always liked Mitrovic, he is so passionate and a bit crazy but he runs a lot, he is quite good in the box and if we sell Laca and Nketiah, he would be a good player to play as a CF. He is also quite good at linking up….

    Areola is a very good GK but he also has not yet demonstrated that he could be 100% focus throughout a season but on his line, he is really good and he is actually good in the air too and decent with his feet. He would definitely put pressure on Leno but not enough to take his spot…

    Anguissa and Lookmann – I ve not seen enough of them…

  18. fred1266 says:

    Rc78 seems bringing benzema back was a bad idea apparently causing a rift in the squad

  19. RockyLives says:

    Interesting that neither Italy nor Turkey are playing a high press.

    It’s quite a relief to watch a game without it.

  20. RC78 says:

    Fred – don’t worry about Benzema…I am more worried about Mbappe keeping his feet on the ground and our central defense who is not great…I would take a draw from the first game against Germany to be honest

  21. fred1266 says:

    Not worried about benzema am worried about the conflict he creating within the team

  22. RA says:

    Good Post, Rocky.

    I would be happy with Ode to Joy, and I never worry about Arsenal’s money problems — they never concern themselves with what fans think is transfer value for money anyway,

    With so many transfer rumours swirling around it is very difficult to know who we will eventually get because of the alleged money concerns – but depending on who leaves, and who will replace him (them), the decision to sign Odegard – or not – will become clearer.

    For me, I do not think the Arsenal manager will sign the Ode one.

  23. RockyLives says:

    Evening Redders

    Did you watch the Italy-Turkey game?

    Quite impressive from the Italians.

  24. LBG says:

    So, what of those players last night that we have shown interest in?
    Turkey:- Celik – let Chelski pay £50/60m
    Calhanoglu – a Fabregas recommendation ( and Ferdinand, but we can ignore him) – difficult to assess given superiority of Italy, but some creative touches.
    Italy:- none.

  25. RockyLives says:

    Can we get Immobile and Insigne? 😀

  26. LBG says:

    Rocky
    Dont need them!

  27. pbarany says:

    Rocky: “We really need a good run in the League Cup, with a team sprinkled with the next generation players.”

    You got a big ‘Amen!’ to that. But I’m afraid this is not under our control.
    I always said that the fact that Arsenal (under Wenger) had such a great dun in the FA cups had little to do with luck or the personal genius of Arsene. But our club is (was?) special in a way that Arsenal’s B-team (today: Ryan, Soares-Mari-Holding-Chambers, Elneny-Xhaka, Martinelli-SmithRowe-Pepe, Lacazette) is almost as strong as our A-team (today: Leno, Tierney-Gabriel-Luiz-Bellerin, Partey-Xhaka, Saka-Odegaard-Willian, Aubameyang). So as long as all teams field their B-squad in the domestic cups, Arsenal has a much higher chance to reach far than whatever the league position would imply. But this is true only as long as there is a custom or gentleman’s agreement on playing mostly with back-up players. As we could sea this season, we were stronger than Leicester and Liverpool, but we wouldn’t stand a chance against Man City’s A-team.

    So we might be hoping to have a good run, but it depends when will Arsenal encounter an opponent that fields a strong cup-squad. Not to mention that Balogun or Azeez (Saliba, Hutchinson and Tylor-Hart) have next-to-nothing exposure to first team football, and Arteta is not known on being keen to play youngsters if there are backup players like Mari, Soares, Elneny, Willian or Lacazette/Nketiah who also need playing minutes.

    So I wouldn’t hold my breath to see next generation players getting chances to shine beyond pre-season friendlies.

  28. RC78 says:

    Fair points pbarany

  29. RC78 says:

    New post

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