Mr. Wenger retires

End of an era. I was still on my second marriage when Arsene signed. I am in shock.

Mr. Wenger, your teams gave me so much happiness, you have been a superb ambassador for my club, you have developed a mid-table, struggling club into becoming one of the world’s biggest. A remarkable achievement

There will be much to discuss over the remaining weeks prior to the new manager’s appointment but in the meantime, can I just say …

Thank you

written by BR

84 Responses to Mr. Wenger retires

  1. Eddie says:

    shit, I thought spurs neighbours were joking

  2. Rasp says:

    I’ve just got in from a bike ride and the media is awash with this.

    Is it true?

    This will take a long time to sink in. A mere thank you is inadequate in light of what Arsene has brought to The Arsenal. We may have though he stayed around a year or two more than was wise, but that is insignificant compared to the amazing journey we have all enjoyed with him. He has transformed our club and football in this country, I doubt any other manager will ever be as influential.

    I can only think he has chosen to make this announcement now (instead of at the end of the season) to spur our players on to give us all one more trophy to say goodbye in a blaze of glory … that would be typical of the man.

  3. fatgingergooner says:


    What a man.

  4. Quote from Arsene:

    “To all the Arsenal lovers, take care of the values of the club.”

    Well said sir well said

  5. Derrick Phillips says:

    Arsene without doubt has been the greatest manager Arsenal have had. He brought a new style of playing, leading to unprecedented succeeds. A true Invincible himself. I am sad that he is going but Arsene always knows best and that is why we have placed our trust in him. Glad to see he favours Viera as a future manager – let’s hope Viera is taken on the staff and maybe Bergkamp too. .Arsene will be at the top of the pantheon of greatest managers, alongside Ferguson, Shankly, Busby and Chapman. Thank you Arsene for your loyalty to and love for the club

  6. GoonerB says:

    Can I firstly say a big thank-you to GN5 for the last marvelous post and apologise for not being around to comment.

    Despite being an advocate for him standing down this season being the right thing to do, which I still stand by, I am genuinely choked now the announcement has come.

    I hope this motivates the players to give their all for him and try and let him leave on a footballing high. More than this though I hope the ground fills up in the remaining games with fans wanting to say their goodbyes and I would love to hear his name echoing around the ground one final time.

    All I can say is thank-you Arsene.

  7. chas says:

    Hear Hear, BR.

  8. fatgingergooner says:

    Will be so odd to see Arsenal without Arsene in charge. Feel shocked, sad, yet happy at the same time. I’m happy for Arsene in that he can now step away from all the abuse and grief he’s had over the last few years and I’m happy that people will now start to talk about him as the legend and man that he is, and not this media-made character that’s been used to ridicule him and the club in recent times.

    I think the timing is right and there are at least 7 games for the fans and the club to give him the send off he deserves. Fingers crossed the players can do the same and win the EL for him.

    Absolute legend and a sad day for all Arsenal fans. What a journey it has been. Au revoir Arsene ⚪️🔴❤️

  9. Big Raddy says:

    GB. I assume AW read your post and agreed with your conclusion.

  10. VP of Oz says:

    What a classy exit/resignation.
    To all the vitriolic fans take heed at Arsene’s example.
    To all the other fans, both the ins and outs that make up our great supporters, history is being made in these next few games, what a classy end.
    Victory through Harmony
    Thank you Arsene, thank you Arsenal

  11. One Arsene Wenger 😔

    I feel it’s absolutely the right thing for him to do for the club …… so why do I feel so sad? The wonderful football that he brought to our club that sadly we only see it fits and starts will, I have no doubt, return. But to have had such a classy man manage our club for more than 20 years I don’t believe will ever happen again.

    Thank you Arsene

  12. Just think there are fans able to vote who have never known another Arsenal manager, he has brought so much to the English game and our club, he only ever did what he thought was best for the club, stayed for the hard years when many would have accepted easier jobs elsewhere, and maybe most problematically for him and the club turned our club from being one that dreamt about winning the occasional trophy, to one which expected to compete for every trophy, and more often than not anything else other than winning it was a failure.

    That is why he was so important to the club, that is why we all feel a sense of emptiness today.

    We all know its not been great this season, but its hard to imagine the club without him at the helm and whoever comes in has got a bastard of a job to follow, because that expectation will not go away. And unfortunately all football fans are hard to please, if you get a chance what the PL Show from last night on BBC and listen to interviews of Moyes, Noble and the West Ham Fans, you’d think according to the West Ham fans that they had some right to expect to be in the top 6, and when Moyes talks you see why Arsene has done so well to stay for all these years and just how strong he needed to be, finally what Noble said is probably the clearest statement from a player talking about how the atmosphere in the ground has a massive affect on the players on a match day, Arsene is not stupid, he can see that in his teams lacklustre displays, Klopp when he arrived at Liverpool gave the fans a bashing for leaving, something Arsene has never done as he knew it would be seen as an excuse, hopefully a change of manager will bring a sense of optimism to the ground, hopefully for the last few games of the season, the fans can change their mindset and make some positivity to the ground.

  13. Interesting this was posted by BFG last night, wonder whether they had had a chat?

    Wouldn’t mind seeing BFG quickly promoted, he has a very likeable personality and a thorough understanding of the game.

  14. RA says:

    I can only add my thoughts to those already spoken above!

    It’s sad – like when a well thought of colleague reaches his/her retirement date, but it is also the right thing for a great manager to do in the circumstances, but amid al the excitement it does not hurt to remember his fantastic Arsenal career.

    France manager? PSG manager? Director at Arsenal? {that last one is most unlikely, of course).

    Who will we get? Hopefully not Brenda Rogers.

  15. Eddie says:

    Vieira and Rogers seem to be favourites, God help us

  16. Not sure if this will work, this is Bob Wilson talking about Arsene and his reaction to his announcement

  17. LB says:

    I have my fingers in my ears, shouting lalalalalala

    Bad joke, it will still all be the same tomorrow.

  18. Derrick Phillips says:

    An inspired suggestion from Paul Merson on Sky TV – rename the stadium after Arsene. As we probably have to retain the Emirates name for their huge part in building the stadium, Paul suggests “The Emirates Arsene Wenger Stadium”. Great idea.

  19. Rasp says:

    Rogers isn’t fit to zip up Arsene’s coat … it can’t be him, he’s an eejit

  20. David Stewart says:

    Feel sad but not at all surprised.

    Arsene Wenger has given us so much in the last 22 years. For any Arsenal fan under the age of, say, 35 they will have known little other than Arsene as our manager.

    Whoever replaces Arsene, I hope they can match his:

    1) Loyalty to the club.
    2) Brilliance of football.
    3) Style (not conduct themselves like Mourinho)
    4) Success
    5) Ability to not just ‘buy success’.
    6) Development of our youth players.
    7) Consistency.

    I would also hope it is not a short-term appointment.

    All in all, not too much to ask for in a successor?

  21. I don’t want to put a (kind of) downer on this news but…

    …although it appears all (except myself, perhaps) on this website are of the opinion Arsene resigned, I’m not so sure.

    Arsene has been adamant (even very recently) that he would always honour his contract, and see out his contract.

    I was waiting for an opportunity to arise, that is, a relevant post to air my opinion that if Arsene leaves before the end of his contract (end of next season) it will not be an “actual resignation”.
    As it happens a relevant post didn’t appear, so I put those thoughts aside for another day which I (anyway) felt wouldn’t come.

    When Thatcher “resigned” was it a “true” resignation?
    No. She was given a choice. Resign or go anyway. You’re leaving one-way-or-the-other, up to you.
    That’s known, I believe, as “Hobson’s Choice”.
    She chose “Resignation”.

    I believe Arsene was (possibly) offered Hobson’s Choice, same as Thatcher.
    I also think we may never, ever, know if he resigned (of his own accord) or was “pushed”. It’s pretty obvious to me that Arsene will never reveal the latter was the case, even if so.

    In a nutshell – he was ASKED to leave, I believe.

    If I’m correct in my assumption (and I sincerely hope I’m NOT correct) then I find the episode rather distasteful. Why?
    Because Arsene had just one season left on his contract, then he could go with a real “true” resignation.
    So much better that way.

    I’ve chosen my words as carefully as possible so as not to offend or annoy my fellow bloggers.

  22. Eddie (et al)
    I believe the bookie’s favourite right now is Tuchel.

  23. GunnerN5 says:

    A very sad but not unexpected announcement. Once the season is over I will write, not a post, but a series of posts on the legendary Arsene Wenger. I feel a huge loss, one that may linger on for many a year to come.

  24. GoonerB says:

    BR @ 10.54, god I hope not. Would hate to be considered someone who was a hater and hounded him away. I hope you said that in jest.

    GIE @ 11.29, I agree his legacy is so much more than just pure silverware. He transformed us into a huge club. Before his arrival we would have been considered smaller clubs than all the top 3 Italian ones but now…..

    I think his ability to keep us near the top and relevant in those post Emirates move austerity years stands as one of his greatest achievements even if silverware eluded us then.

  25. GoonerB says:

    Al, I have to somewhat disagree about Arsene seeing out his contract and then going being the best approach.

    I think it would be hard for a manager to approach a season successfully if they, the players and the fans all know for sure it is his last year. It leaves uncertainty in areas like potential players coming in questioning who will be their next manager. They may decide to defer a year and not join us. Other players may not sign a contract extension until they see who is coming in.

    If it was conversely left open to a will he won’t he extend his contract then we enter the same problems of uncertainty we faced at the end of last season, which Arsene himself admitted were very destabilising.

    So a whole year knowing he is going for sure has issues and not knowing if he is going or extending has issues.The sensible thing was to announce a stepping down near the end of the season with 1 year still remaining to avoid all those scenarios, which is what has happened.

  26. GoonerB says:

    Thought Tuchel was for PSG?

    Got a sneaky feeling about Enrique. Nothing is guaranteed in terms of success for the new man, but a manager who has won a lot and has experience at the business end in Europe whose name likely carries respect among the worlds best players, looks to tick most of the boxes.

    I know he inherited some great players but he still had to get them gelling. He just feels a good fit in a club that also has an attacking identity but will give the manager time. Would love Vieira at some stage but does his managerial credentials to date make him ready now?

  27. Eddie says:

    Big Al – not in UK

    SkyBet odds are currently:
    Patrick Vieira 2/1
    Brendan Rodgers 7/2
    Carlo Ancelotti 5/1
    Thomas Tuchel 6/1
    Joachim Loew 8/1
    Luis Enrique 10/1
    Massimiliano Allegri 12/1
    Leonardo Jardim 14/1
    Diego Simeone 16/1

    And, no way Wener was asked to leave, I don’t believe that for a second. He worked it out for himself that he will disappoint again in Europe and there will be loud shouts for his resignation. So he jumped the gun

  28. Gööner In Exile says:

    I’m not sure Arsene jumped the gun, but as for conspiracy theories…I’ll ask a question on here that a few will be able to answer….

    when do season ticket renewal invitations get sent out?

  29. GunnerN5 says:

    Patrick Vieira has his own legendary status at Arsenal and I feel that becoming our next manager might compromise his status. I feel he needs to prove his abilities at a far higher quality of football then the MLS.

  30. Gööner In Exile says:

    Hmmm Rodgers, well I can’t say I won’t support the man if it is him, at the end of the day I still went when Rioch was in charge and even back in those days it felt like the appointment of the “next big thing” as he’d managed to get one over on us as Bolton boss.

    Then turned up and told Wrighty he should be more like McGinlay.

    Rodgers feels like the kind of bloke who would do similar, probably tell Aaron Ramsey he should be more like Scott Brown.

  31. Yes Eddie.
    Been surfing – the odds have been changing rapidly.
    A lot of guesswork going on in the websites.

    You say “And, no way Wenger was asked to leave, I don’t believe that for a second.”.

    I say “I think Wenger was asked to leave.”
    He could have “jumped the gun” season-after-season, but didn’t.
    And now, with just one season remaining to see out his final contract, he leaves?
    Doesn’t make sense at all. He was “pushed” – 95% sure.
    But it will be a big hushed-up secret between Kroenke, Gazidis, and Arsene himself. Forever.

    So, we’ll agree to disagree, i think.

  32. GunnerN5 says:

    Whatever the reason for AW’s resignation it was done in a very classy way allowing him to depart Arsenal in a very dignified manner.

    Well done Arsene and well done Arsenal.

  33. Let’s try this…

    Arsene “resigned”, with a certain amount of “pressure applied”.
    The hierarchy wanted him to leave, but didn’t want to sack him.
    So they came to “an agreement”, that was considered best for all.

    As I said before, Hobsons Choice, basically.

    That’s not conspiracy, GIE. That’s simple common sense.

  34. jjgsol says:

    I do not agree that he was pushed.

    I think the delay was simply until they got the right replacement and I have no doubt at all that he has been lined up already, As Wenger was himself after Graham was booted.

    They could not get him then, as he would not break his contract, so they got Rioch in as an interim manager.

    It is interesting that Wenger referred to Vieira just yesterday and I suspect it will be him, possibly together with Bergkamp or the Dortmund manager, which would explain why we brought in Mikhatarian and Aub.

    Whoever comes in, it will be a hard act to follow.

    As an Arsenal fan for more than 50 years, my gratitude to him is immeasurable, for all the pleasure and happiness he has given me and my Gooner sons over the last 21 years.

    I am sure that his contribution to the club’s history and future will be properly recognised. I like the idea of naming the stadium after him, even if the “emirates” has to be there for a few years. Indeed, perhaps they might like that as well.

    The club tends to do the correct thing, which includes transfers and appointment being carried out in secret.

  35. RA says:


    — “I’m not sure Arsene jumped the gun, but as for conspiracy theories…I’ll ask a question on here that a few will be able to answer….

    when do season ticket renewal invitations get sent out?”

    End of the month??

    Imagine if season ticket holders who hated AW gave up their tickets, and in mid-May he announced he was leaving — there would be an even bigger outcry.

  36. RA says:

    Sky Sports have an interview with AW scheduled for 5 p.m. this p.m. — about Sunday’s game with Wham or ……

  37. Cheers Raddy.

    Arsene? I shed a tear. Which was quite useful because this morning I attended a funeral for a client I did not like. Fellow members of the congregation asked why i was so emotional so to make sure they didnt think I was some form of cretin, retorted ” I will miss the Fee”

    I have plenty to say about Arsene but at this stage would just like to say that who ever the new manager turns out to be he will have my full support and like all the others before him, creepy devotion.

  38. GunnerN5 says:

    There are only 3 home games left for Arsenal supporters to put any negative feelings behind them and show AW the true appreciation that he has earned. We will see…………………….

  39. fred1266 says:

    Is this for real

  40. LB says:


    I think there is far more to what you say than has been admitted. I for one was the closest I have ever been to not renewing. And now — sign me up.

    I simply have not believed that there is a 100,000 person season ticket waiting list.

    There is no doubt in my mind that the lack of recent attendance and the club’s fear of what might happen played a part in the timing of AW deciding to leave, who knows maybe he thought that by staying he would damage the club.

    Some may say “no shit Sherlock” but for me it was a complete surprise and I find myself scrambling around for answers.

  41. Big Raddy says:

    GB. Almost all I write is in jest. But if AW really did read AA he must have agreed with you. 🙂

  42. LB says:


    I respect your view on the season tickets, I mean, who knows? I don’t but I am confused about this:

    “Imagine if season ticket holders who hated AW gave up their tickets, and in mid-May he announced he was leaving — there would be an even bigger outcry.”

    Surely this backs up what GIE suggested……………….

  43. Eddie says:

    no fred, we are all just winding you up 🙂

  44. Eddie says:

    Departing Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has been described as “one of the greatest Premier League managers” by old rival Sir Alex Ferguson

    Fergie stopped himself from saying Wenger was the greatest, as he knows that he was

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  49. RA says:

    Hi, LB,

    It was in response to GIE’s question about when the season ticket invites were sent out — which is why I copy/pasted it at the start of the comment.

    My addendum was only related to the timing of today’s announcement – if it was made at the end of the season, then there could be a lot more wailing from those fans who did not want to renew because they thought AW was staying, and then found in a later announcement that he was leaving.

    Not important, LB, I was just speculating, and trying to be helpful to GIE, this often results in my being put in the wrong.

  50. Gööner In Exile says:

    LB the list can’t be 100,000 anymore, my Mum and Dad (unbeknown to me) added themselves to the ST List for a one time fee a few seasons back, he is now 22,000th or something.

    We said might be a good thing if he stays and we had another season like this as at least we’d have a season ticket to share around the family. 🙂

    Scary really that when I bought a ST for first time I just walked to the box office and bought them. First game I saw with them was in the New North Bank even though they were Clock End STs as Clock End redevelopment hadn’t finished yet. Gave them up at the end of the season as concentrated on playing and two/three seasons later couldn’t get one for love nor money.

  51. Big Raddy says:

    Would be ecstatic if we sign Pochettino 😀

  52. Just seen this…
    seems I’m not alone.

    (after my posts)

    [edit] … Up until this week, when it seems a resign-or-be-sacked ultimatum was delivered, it was not known when. The timing gives Wenger a dignified exit but also Arsenal time to source his successor without the embarrassment of appearing to go behind his back. They have a lead-time and that, above all, will be a relief to Gazidis.

  53. I know I’m a girl and we do crying on a grand scale but I’m in bits reading the tributes from the players on twitter and Instagram.

    Best thing is all the AKB’s and WOB’s have disappeared and everyone is posting such nice things.

    Can’t wait to sing his name on Sunday

  54. GunnerN5 says:

    Peaches don’t feel like it’s a girl thing, I find the tributes to be very moving – not to the point of tears but most certainly a deep sadness mixed with a high degree of respect for what he has done for Arsenal.

    He most certainly created some of the most awesome teams I’ve ever seen in an Arsenal kit and has given me some unbelievable memories..

  55. Eddie says:

    GN5 – peaches and I talked about you today saying that you’d be crying 🙂 🙂

    lovely tributes, I am more than happy to sign ‘Sorry you are leaving’ card and put some cash in a tin for his present.

    Best Arsenal manager ever

  56. GunnerN5 says:

    Eddie, The man will impossible to replace and unfortunately in life most people are unable to relate to that in the moment. The teams and moments he created may never be emulated.

    The only way other teams could possibly beat him was by parking the bus – rarely by playing better football.

  57. Eddie says:

    hm hm hm dear GN5, don’t push it boy 🙂

  58. Eddie says:

    the odds have changed since the morning, for the worse

    Brendan Rodgers 3/1
    Carlo Ancelotti 4/1
    Patrick Vieira 5/1

  59. Gööner In Exile says:

    Big Al just read that Telegraph piece, seems like that may be a Gazidis planted story 🙂

    To be fair what is interesting is it seems to suggest that the last couple of years have seen Wenger appointments replaced with Gazidis appointments, but since the appointments the club has gone backwards, so who was right?

    The speculation on this will run and run. I doubt Arsene will but I bet a book from him would scare most who remain at the club.

  60. Aaron says:

    Arsene has always stood above, and not reacted to many petty, cruel, spiteful words that were said about him, written about him, and put in his face at times-it was beneath his dignity.

    I have always thought he was the perfect fit for Arsenal. He helped revolutionize the game in England and around the world.

    It was and is so amazing to be a fan of such a great club.

  61. GunnerN5 says:

    I for one would really like to read a Wenger book on his years at Arsenal.

  62. GunnerN5 says:

    Aaron, well said his detractors may have a lot of crow to eat in the ensuing years.

  63. Ants says:

    Fantastic words from the much maligned Gazidis

    “Arsene has unparalleled class and we will always be grateful to him. Everyone who loves Arsenal and everyone who loves football owes him a debt of gratitude.”

  64. Ants says:

    “We must now focus on making a strong finish to the season and ask our millions of fans around the world to join us in paying appropriate tribute to one of the greats of Arsenal’s history and one of the greats of the game.”

  65. VP of Oz says:

    I give up on my son and youth in general

  66. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    VP 🙂 🙂

  67. fatgingergooner says:

    Can’t stand Paul Merson. He’s a Chelsea fan and can barely string a sentence together, but the insight he gave into Wengers reign yesterday was fantastic.

    The man transformed football in this country. There is no other accolade greater than that. He was a huge part in making the Premier League what it is today. Even Fergie would admit that he was old fashioned and appreciated the ‘British’ game and didn’t transform the game, but Wenger made people change their philosophies and he was a pioneer on how football should be played and how people thought about football. All players and fans owe him respect, whether they realise it or not. An absolute genius who never strayed from his beliefs. Even when times were tough towards the end he always he stuck (rightly or wrongly) to his philosophy, and for that he

  68. fatgingergooner says:

    earns respect. The way players and managers talk about him tells you everything you need to know. People say in his last years he lost his touch, but here is a man who won 7 FA Cups with Arsenal in 22 years. He won it so many times that he devalued the competition! If the next Arsenal manager wins the FA Cup will it be seen as derisory? I don’t think so. 10 major trophies in all, 17 if you include the Community Shield, 5 losing finals (that I can think of), a new stadium, and a club identity. An absolute legend in the purist terms and a man we all owe so much.

  69. mickydidit89 says:

    OMG as my daughter would say

    Awoke for normal Wot Ho and all, and wow. Read comments to make sure it wasn’t an Erik stunt and here we are

    Well, of course, I think it’s brilliant news

    1. Fantastic for Arsenal
    2. Great for Arsene
    3. Perfect timing
    4. Can galvanise club
    5. Fabulous for Arsene to go out on a high with EL trophy and we can have a fuck offski big thank you parade

  70. Eddie says:

    and the odds have changed again. I think it means that nobody has a foggiest. I want Allegri of Simeone, fat chance.

    Luis Enrique 3/1
    Brendan Rodgers 4/1
    Carlo Ancelotti 5/1
    Patrick Vieira 6/1
    Joachim Loew 7/1
    Thomas Tuchel 8/1
    Massimiliano Allegri 14/1
    Diego Simeone 16/1

  71. Eddie says:

    go back to sleep didit, there won’t be any parade.

  72. Gööner In Exile says:

    Well said FGG, to put it another way he has won one less FA Cup that Spuds have in their entire existence, and more one more league title than they have ever won. Took him 22 years.

    When I was a kid Spuds fans always used to give stick about the amount of FA Cups, they quitened down a bit after the League title in 89 and 91, but we were still comparatively close, it’s why the derby games mattered more. Wenger made NLDs irrelevant to us as we were fighting for bigger bragging rights. Ok they’ve finally made a resurgence, but Poch has a long way to go to turn come close to Arsene’s achievements in the better half of North London.

  73. Eddie says:

    GIE – i was gardening yesterday and next door (and the door after, and 2 doors after, and on and on) spurs loving neighbours were drooling over their new stadium. I asked quietly but loudly if they bothered installing a trophy cabinet there? oooohh the silence that followed was very telling 🙂

  74. Big Raddy says:

    Head: Ancelotti for two seasons.

    Heart: PV4

    Expectation: Rodgers

    Micky. Excellent summation. Top hole, in fact.

  75. Eddie says:

    how do I stop Rogers fecking about with the zip???

  76. Big Raddy says:

    Eddie. Write a new post

  77. mickydidit89 says:

    Mmm, Big Al: pushed? Interesting. For me, dunno, but not really bothered either way

    Next ‘ting…timing
    Sure ticket renewals, bit less about ST’s in the cheap seats because of waiting list. It would be the club level and boxes. They’ve been the emptiest sections of all recently and that is a massive financial hit

    Also, better he goes now, so we can rally for last games, EL especially, but so new man can be in place before transfer season what with WC and all

  78. mickydidit89 says:

    final leg of manoeuvres with a six hour drive and home

  79. chas says:


  80. LB says:

    Well there you go really Micky, you mention a few reasons why now is the right time I don’t put too much emphasis on the pushed theory.

    Arsene: I think it is time to leave.

    Club: If you are sure then we respect your view.

    Outcome — the club agreed therefore in a way he was pushed?

    Well, not really.

    Personally, I put a little more emphasis on the fear that the cheap seat season tickets might not have all sold out. I don’t believe the waiting list is anywhere near as big as we are told.

    On the big financial picture, I agree they are less important than corporate but they have a greater effect in a shop window sense.

    The more I think about it the more I think it was yet another brilliantly timed more from Arsene.

    We are in the semis, his departure will have a motivating effect on the players to play for their job at the club with the new manager.

    New contract Jack? New manger going to revolve his midfield around someone who is slow, short and injury prone? Never going to happen. We are going to have a totally new midfield.

    Right here, that’s one cheap seat season ticket renewed.

  81. moses gyabi says:

    In Uganda we will do some thing for the old man to show our love for him and the brilliant game he got us and many many more years to come

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