Are Arsenal’s fullbacks good enough?

The general perceived feeling on the forum is that we are doing fine on the full-back position as we have four reliable full-backs at our disposal:-Debuchy, Bellerin, Monreal and Gibbs.

I tend to agree that are “good full backs” but I am not convinced that they can take our club to the next level as they still suffer from defensive lapses, do not create enough assists or goals and worse, do not bring enough width to our game at times when we are stuck with fruitless possession in the opponent’s half…You look at Ivanovic, Alves, Rafinha, Lahm, Alaba, Alba and even Baines, Coleman or Clyne (he still needs to confirm though) and you realize that our FBs are not doing enough for our team…

What is your take on it?

Written by RC78

114 Responses to Are Arsenal’s fullbacks good enough?

  1. eoin2211 says:

    I think this sums up the whole squad. Good players, but not great…….

  2. RA says:


    I had commented on your question, but Rasp rudely pinched your comment as a Post – so here is my reply – repeated. 🙂

    RA said @ 12:58


    The way I look at our full backs is to compare the left back position when Ashley Cole played there for us and ask myself;
    – is Monreal as good as the now disliked Cole was? No.
    – is Gibbsy as good as Cole was? No.

    He won the Prem – will they? Not too sure about that.

    I ask myself a similar question about the right backs;

    – is Debouchy as good as Sagna was, or Clyne is (say)? No.
    – is Bellerin as good as Sagna was, or Clyne is now? No.

    Debouchy is OK but not top drawer and is ageing.
    Bellerin has the making of a really good FB, but is very inexperienced at the moment.

    So – in a perfect world, I would look to replace both Monreal and Gibbs with a world class FB.

    I would keep Belli – experience will come, but I would want another classy FB to give him competition.

    Raddy will tell you they are all wonderful – of course – but then he always does! 😀

  3. RC78 says:

    yk – good comment…but technically, we do not need to pick up a pen anymore as we just type :-p

    eoin – indeed…except maybe for Cech and Sanchez?

    RA – I can live with your proposal 🙂

  4. John says:


    Ivanovic has been a disaster so far this season. The other non-English fullbacks you list are not available for sale. Whom do you actually propose we buy? The English fullbacks you list are unproven at the higher levels. Look how Schneiderlin is having to adapt to stepping up to United and he is a better central midfielder then they are fullbacks. Baines is old. As for Sagna, he’s had a good start to this season so far, but was terrible last year. Plus, he was Debuchy’s backup for France at the World Cup last year.

    Bellerin and Monreal are perfectly good starting fullbacks. We perhaps need to buy a young left back to take over in a couple of years since Gibbs is made of glass. Bellerin gets exposed more than he should partially because Ramsey is a tactical disaster and constantly runs into the center of the park instead staying of the wing…thus crowding Ozil and Santi’s space, denying them winger who is running behind the defenders to pass to and leaving Bellerin exposed.It’s time to drop Ramsey for the Ox (in the absence of a genuinely good rightwing player with defensive awareness in the squad). Wilshire, Ramsey, Walcott, Welbeck, Gibbs and Chambers can sit on the bench discussing how none of the British contingent deserve to start for this team.

    Bellerin will be the best right back in the league within 2 years.

  5. Kraken Sanch says:

    I strongly disagree.

  6. Big Raddy says:

    I lean towards having a new LB. Gibbs hasn’t improved to the level he could have, perhaps caused by regular injuries.

    Montreal is a good FB but not a great one.

    Given our left sided attack of Ozil and Sanchez, we need a strong defender. If we could sign a player of the quality of Ashley Cole then we should.

    On the other side I have high hopes for Bellerin and Debuchy is good enough to act as cover. And, Chambers has shown he can play RB.

  7. RA says:

    Well blow me down!! 😀

  8. Gööner In Exile says:

    Tend to agree with John, think our full backs are good enough, there are of course more out there, some marginally better but how many streets ahead better?

    Of course we could upgrade all of our players, to improve the team.

    But if we can’t do that lets look at what we have and ask why Arsene thinks that he doesn’t need to strengthen as much as others……for me it’s very simple…..the team is growing up.

    Bellerin, a year in the PL later only going to get better….Debuchy was clearly bought as a stop gap for this lad.

    Monreal, 2 seasons in and we have seen him improve markedly. He was one who impressed me most on Monday, faster than I gave him credit for….where he is better than Gibbs is he rarely passes backwards because he is normally open to the play.

    The Beitish contingent are all another year older, Alexis with a season under his belt, Ozil getting better and understanding what’s needs more and more.

    We’ve got two great prospective centre halves, and two seasoned pros in front of them.

    The reason everyone else is running round to acquire shiny new toys is because they have a lot of weaknesses, ManUre have Blind and Smalling, Rojo and Evans as centre backs, that’s it! Chelsea have two full backs….and an ageing Ivanovic who cannot keep up his form of the last two/three years.

    We are a well balanced squad, we haven’t started brilliantly and I’m sure Arsene and Bouldy are scratching their heads as to what happened between pre season and the opening weekend.

    But let’s wait and see before we write off our squad, I’m sick of hearing about the latest flash in the pan centre forward/midfielder that others are signing.

    If you have lost faith in Arsenes ability to spot a player take a look at Koscielny. A player much maligned when he signed, and for me he is probably the most underrated centre half in the premier league. He rarely has to do all the throwing himself around stuff because he has dealt with the situation before it got that far.

    Don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t mind maybe at least one more body to keep the squad fresh, but on the other hand I think we’ve started worse against lesser opposition previously. Liverpool started a lot worse two seasons ago and ended up a Stevie G slip (still funny) away from winning the PL.

  9. Gööner In Exile says:

    And whilst we are talking about centre forwards who might be able to do a job in the PL why don’t we go and hunt one of the best PL proven strikers? Charlie Austin?

  10. chas says:

    Cheers, RC78.
    I think our full backs are fine.

    As for the others listed

    Ivanovic – playing like a fat donkey
    Alves – over the hill, injured and turning shite
    Rafinha – attacking midfielder
    Lahm – plays as DM
    Alaba – good
    Alba – more a left-winger
    Baines – well past his best
    Coleman – overrated
    Clyne – jury’s still out.

  11. GunnerN5 says:

    Rasp/Peaches, I’ve emailed you a new post.

  12. GunnerN5 says:

    GIE, I was wondering why Austin’s name has not come up – from what little I’ve seen of him he certainly has an eye for goal, and I for one would not be unhappy to see him playing for us.

  13. GunnerN5 says:

    Of all of our positions I feel that changing our full backs would be a very low priority.

  14. RA says:

    Rumours, rumours, rumours and all that.

    The latest one straight off the presses is the following;

    Arsenal targeting £10m left-back deal before transfer window slams shut:-

    ARSENAL have lined up Raphael Guerreiro as Nacho Monreal’s replacement at left-back.

    Spanish newspaper Mundo Deportivo claims the Lorient youngster is wanted by the Gunners with Monreal at target for Athletic Bilbao.

    They add a deal could be struck before transfer window slams shut on Tuesday.

    France Football has also linked Arsenal with a swoop for Guerreiro.
    The 19-year-old is reportedly valued at £10m by Lorient, who sold Laurent Koscielny to the north Londoners for a similar price in 2010.

    Guerreiro has made 72 appearances for the club since a 2013 move from Caen.

    The left-back is a Portugal under-21 international.”

    Maybe Arsene agrees with me! We will know soon enough. 😀

  15. stevepalmer1 says:

    Nice one RC78.
    If you had said our CBacks i could understand it, but our full backs whats not to like about them. Most Players are not as good as Messi what do they do, do they get rid of them and only look for Messi’s equivalent.

    Asley Cole was a lifetime ago, good player yes, but did he make mistakes yes. Cole went to a club where money was no object, they brought in many fine players and Cole was one of them.

    Did we miss Cole, we sure did, but he wanted to move and we let him go, The players we have in that position now, want to be at Arsenal that is the most important thing, Are they the best in the world No but they work hard and they entertain.

    We can always pick certain players from all over the world and say he should be at Arsenal, but he probably thinks i don’t want to go to England i like it where i am, Messi likes it where he is, and only if you have a shed load of money could you prise him away.

    At the end of the day a full back should be able to defend, if you want wing backs then they need to have attacking skills as well, but with wing backs they are asked to do 2 jobs rush forward then turn and rush back see how long you would last doing that.

    Bellerin and Monreal are two fine fullbacks, many times they have managed to get forward and cross fine balls in, the next second they are at the heart of defence saving goals with last ditch challenges, How these guys find the energy has me beat but most games they give their all,

    I personally do not think we can ask a lot more from them, My solution would be good wingers, but if we do that, we lose something in midfield.

    Mondays game was a freak, losing both centre backs for the same game was tragic but Gabriel and Chambers came in, Not two of the best centre backs in the world, and not much match time either, but they kept a clean sheet against tough odds.

    We have the players to get top 4, but should we want to challenge then a Messi or two would certainly help .

    What was it Mr Wenger said, If better players come along who are better than we have, and at the price we want to pay, we will add to our squad.

    Better than we have, at the price we want to pay, says it all doesn’t it

  16. RA says:

    Hi Steve,

    Quoting what Mr Wenger said about buying something better than we already have, at a price we want to pay, is something we should all aspire too.

    For myself, I am holding out for a top of the range Ferrari, at the price I want to pay, which is about £2,000.

    I have been waiting a long time – but I live in hope. 😀

  17. stevepalmer1 says:

    Hiya RA, Nice one mate 🙂

  18. chas says:

    This made me laugh…..

  19. RA says:

    It is perhaps no surprise to learn that I am somewhat lukewarm about Theo. Now I have no interest in sniping at him but it must surely be about time that Arsene grabs the nettle and settles his future one way or the other.

    It is only about 5 minutes ago that Mr Wenger gave Theo a reputedly super duper contract only a little less than our £40+m Özil and that on the face of it should have guaranteed Theo a lot of game time.

    Actually, he has played something like the equivalent of half a game in the first 3 matches, and it seems a massive disconnect between the two facts.

    My suggestion is that Theo should be given the benefit of 3 or 4 matches as the prime CF and hopefully show that he really can be a top class CF.

    This occasional appearance off the bench is really not helping anyone and certainly not the fans who do not know what to make of the situation.

    A decent run at CF will hopefully prove that he is indeed the player he clearly thinks he can be in that position and that would please all of us. On the down side if he proves not to be able to handle the job, then AW will know he has to be used on the wing, and if there are better alternatives there too, then, sadly, come January Theo should be given the chance to move on.

    I am not sure why that seemingly obvious solution has not been tried all ready.

  20. Eddie says:

    RC78 – it is a time sensitive question. Before the season started I thought they were the best the league. After the WH game I was embarrassed how poor they were. Today I know that they are lacking consistency = not title contenders. A seasoned pro plays well game after game, after game no matter what. It’s his second nature to play like that.

    Our guys can push themselves and excel, but on a normal day they are nothing special.

  21. Big Raddy says:

    RA. Do you think that perhaps Theo was given the contract primarily so he could not leave on a free next summer?

    I expect AW to give him gametime sooner rather than later but I doubt he will be trusted centrally.

  22. chas says:

    I can’t believe Wenger sits down with the player’s agent and between them they agree Walcott’s new contract. 🙂

    Walcott’s contract is going to include other considerations as well as his performance on the pitch; he’s that kind of player.

    I can’t imagine any player is given 4 games in a row in an attempt to let them prove themselves. This could be at the expense of the team’s results.
    Obviously, you could say that him not playing has been at the expense of the team. 🙂

    Theo doesn’t exactly look as though he’s champing at the bit to earn a starting position when he does appear on the pitch (after all he has his new super-duper bumper contract in the bag already).
    Having said that, I hope he plays tomorrow and scores a hat-trick. 🙂

  23. RA says:


    There may be something in what you say. To be candid I think Theo has a clever agent – his previous contract , I understand, ws a three year extension, ending this summer.

    For a great deal of that time he was injured, having had a pretty good run prior to the injury – and then he delays signing Da Ting again and Wenger blinked first.

    Anyway, it is time for it to be sorted out, as it is not fair to, apparently, promise Theo a ‘go’ at CF, and it is no good for the team if he is not good enough at CF.

    So, he should be given his chance and hopefully he will make a good fist of it – if not – what I said previously must be the logical solution.

    Let’s hope he scores 25 goals this season and helps us win the Prem – not a lot to ask. 😀

  24. Big Raddy says:

    We will never know but Theo’s recent contributions do not add up to much. On Monday night he made one pass in his 25 minutes on the pitch

  25. RA says:


    — “I can’t believe Wenger sits down with the player’s agent and between them they agree Walcott’s new contract.”

    Let’s not be too literal here, I do not know what Wenger does or does not do, but whoever the hell thrashes out a player’s contract on behalf of the club, when it is presented to Wenger he will have the last say. 🙂

    I am not a football manager, which might come as a surprise, and my suggestion is simply an attempt to take the conversation away from the lovely “he’s very good” —– “oh, no he’s not” pantomime type of comments so beloved of some fans.

    Frankly, however Wenger resolves the ‘Theo Question’, and certainly if he is given the game time and pongs after the first game – the cry will go up that ‘he needs more time in another game’, and that’s OK.
    If he is a disaster in the second game, the same people will yell – ‘Wenger doesn’t know what he is doing’ — etc.

    Alternatively, if he is ace in those games he plays, then all is well and everyone is happy and he will get a lot more that the four games that seems to worry you.

    Either way the matter will be resolved because sitting on his ass earning half a million pounds sterling a month for doing sod all does not make any sense.

    Go ahead, Chas, pick holes in that – I have no doubt you will. 🙂

  26. RA says:

    Sorry, I forgot to say – G’night all. 🙂

  27. The Cockie Monster says:

    My take for what it`s worth !

    Since I can remember, nearly all the best FB`s are wingers converted to FB`s ! ( a few exceptions like Bale going from FB to winger…..but he was probably a winger to start with anyway ! ). They are not now called Wing Backs for nothing !……………….so this is simple………………don’t buy a FB, buy a winger and play him at FB and we could have 4 wingers who interchange !……………………………Football ……….a simple game !.

    PS !…………………………………..apart from Theo as he has no idea how to tackle !.


    Nice one 78

    Of course are full backs are good enough. Monreal has ben brilliant the last 12 months and Belerin is so good I have nightmares about his Catalonian DNA. I also have nasty visions about George Osbornes DNA, who I suspect is related to a gaunt 17th century aristocrat.

    78, I fear you watch to much football, leading to player familarity overload. I suggest you cut down and watch women instead. Binoculars, telescopes, illicit holes drilled through ceilings and walls is all acceptable.

    Net time your on a bus, rather than yell out “Rahina, only 20 million euros” thus putting fellow patrons on mad man potentially dangerous alert, thoughts of that lovely girl next door who despises you, but who you can now see in the shower would have you belt out “oh yes baby, lather all overrrrrrr”

    This should calm and sedate your fellow passengers who would think its just another pervert so preoccupied with his sexual fantasies, hes missed his stop.

  29. chas says:

    Apologies, RA, my aim wasn’t to pick holes but to provide a response to your 6:21.

    No more, no less.

  30. chas says:

  31. chas says:


    chas, hahahaha

  33. Big Raddy says:

    Terry 7.50.

    “78, I fear you watch to much football, leading to player familarity overload. I suggest you cut down and watch women instead. Binoculars, telescopes, illicit holes drilled through ceilings and walls is all acceptable”

    Wonderful ;-D 😀 😀

  34. Gööner In Exile says:

    On the fullbacks, I find it interesting that if improvements are named it is normally because they are good up the business end of the pitch.

    Two seasons ago when both Chavs and Dippers ripped us a new one it was mainly because our full backs were nowhere to be seen in the defensive line, when we had possession they (Gibbs and Sagna) started moving up the pitch with no thought for what might happen if we lost possession, in the same season Martinez played Lukaku right wing and he too destroyed us.

    I haven’t seen our full backs play anywhere near as high over the last couple of seasons, and definitely seem to take it in turns more only joining in if the other one isn’t.

    These are good signs surely, signs that the manager who can’t change tactics can and also that he can play the right players in the right position.

    If I was Theo I’d be chomping at the bit to play…..and if that meant right wing then so be it.

    Gibbs used to be a midfielder, he is a good tackler, would he be a good replacement for Coq should the need arise? Ill go further, is Coq more of a problem than a solution?

    Wouldn’t a midfield of:

    Strike more fear into opponents hearts than the current one? Would the fullbacks need to attack of those 5 were in front of them with either Theo or Ollie in front of them?

  35. RC, complaining that our full-backs don’t put enough crosses in is a bit unfair, when the big lump in the middle keeps wasting them.

    On the whole I don’t think we have much to complain about, all four a pretty good.

  36. Exile, I don’t think either Cazorla or Ramsey have the discipline to stay back and defend when the need arises, they are both as gung ho as our full-backs used to be.

  37. Gööner In Exile says:

    That’s kind of the point I was making NG, wouldn’t we be better if allowing 5-6 men go forward as long as we keep 4 back and our full backs don’t go walkabout? and if those 5-6 men have a combination of the attributes we need even better. Santi and Rambo can shoot from distance Santi can play the ball to just about anyone from anywhere (normally) and is excellent in crowded areas, Rambo alongside would give a bit of muscle but mainly assist in bringing the ball out from the back.

    The rest can do their thang 😀

    All providing the back 4 stay as a back 4.

  38. chas says:

    Big hurdle for us to mount today.

  39. mickydidit89 says:

    I know, I know, I know

    It wasn’t fair of me to gloat GoonerB style while away in the sun while you lot suffered beneath the cloudy skies and watched no Arsenal goals, but what goes around and shit.

    Ok then. We’re shit, haven’t signed anyone and it’s raining..

  40. Eddie says:

    and even worse West Ham only have 3 points from 3 games

  41. mickydidit89 says:

    Thanks Transplant for some great work while I was away, so in your honour….

  42. mickydidit89 says:


  43. mickydidit89 says:

    So Eddie, what’s the plan then?

    No goals today and we start the Black Cashmere Scarf Brigade

  44. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    Didit back in the saddle – we have missed your morning banter. Let’s hope you bring us good luck today

    Better start writing the PM ….

  45. Eddie says:

    micky – nope, no plans. I am taking a pragmatic approach to football and take it as it is, win or loss.

    I may change my mind during the game though 🙂 In fact I am sure I will. Fecking have to win that, even I am beginning to be sick of hoping for a place in top 4 but not even dreaming of the 1st

  46. mickydidit89 says:

    Oh here we go, Red Erik and his old chum “luck” 🙄

    Luck is something lefties go on about, along with old favourites like “The Ref” and “Utd and in fact everyone else are lucky and no-one likes us” 🙂

  47. mickydidit89 says:

    “Pragmatic” Eddie…that’s awful.
    Get back to your old self and be angry 🙂

    Chas gone away day or salon?

  48. Eddie says:

    chas is probably travelling to the game, early kick off

    who is injured for today?

  49. Big Raddy says:

    I would guess the salon

  50. Eddie says:

    so much for the FFP
    The Gunners boss is furious that European football’s governing body have backed down over Financial Fair Play rules.

    And that has allowed rich owners to splash the cash – hindering Arsenal who Wenger insists have stuck to the letter of the law by operating within their means.

    Manchester City were punished last season for breaking the FFP rules but the regulations were relaxed recently after pressure from some of Europe’s biggest clubs.

    And Wenger said: “FFP is gone, I have seen the signs coming from UEFA for a while now. I thought for a while it would happen but now it is not possible.”

  51. chas says:

    Just cracking my first beer on the 8.10 from Doncaster to Newcastle. 🙂

  52. Eddie says:

    see Raddy, I told you so 🙂

  53. mickydidit89 says:

    Absolutely no excuse for Arsene not to get out and spend some of the loot we do have
    Answer: guessing some defenders injured, but that doesn’t matter 🙂
    Think we’ll win as we’re better away from home

  54. Big Raddy says:

    Eddie. I guess you know men better than I do 🙂

    Micky. Completely agree. We have the money and it does no-one good spending it on expensive lunches and cigars for the BoD.

    Buy, Buy, Buy.

  55. Eddie says:

    what’s the point of buying now? By the time the player arrives, gels, starts performing we are in January, no title this season again

    Defenders don’t matter? Well well Mr DidIt, you have obviously not seen the first half of the Pool game and forgotten when we were 4 nil up in the first half against the Magpies some 5 years ago

  56. Eddie says:

    Raddy – I would hope so 🙂 chas is very predictable really, I suspect there will be a few photos of them on the train, with beverages neatly lined up for photos, some teeth, some smut, all that we expect and love

  57. Not Duck says:

    It’s sunny oop norf

  58. Ant says:

    Ant n Duck on tour again

  59. mickydidit89 says:

    And some healthy looking nibbles. Morning A ‘n D

    First half against Pool? Did we concede? No. Did we score at the other end? No.

    Forget the title, there is zero chance, but we could entertain with goals. Arsene has one week as far as I’m concerned, then it’s Get Ossie Ardiles for me 🙂

  60. Ant says:

  61. chas says:

    The ticket inspector has. Wished us luck when she saw Arsenal Arsenal on Ants iPad.
    She’s a Mackem. 🙂

  62. RA says:

    Great News, the Ant and Duck team are on the road again! 🙂

    We need ‘photos of the gustatory delights, please.

  63. mickydidit89 says:

    FFS Ant, that’s not a train, it’s a private jet

  64. chas says:

    “Win the cup for Arsenalingham….”

  65. RA says:


    I have no idea why you thought you had bugged me yesterday – not at all.

    I enjoy your quick mind. 😀

  66. Ant says:

    …..Until we get to Newcastle

  67. Ant says:

  68. RA says:


    Not sure which is the receptacle in the 8:33 pic. Is that tea going in – or is that the tea coming back? 🙂

  69. Ant says:

    Next stop on the jet is Abbou Dabby

  70. Ant says:

    Gustatory sounds like a Conservative caught in a storm

  71. Eddie says:

    here we go, the Vines will go out of their way to prove me wrong now. Forget it Ant I KNOW you are eating pies and drinking ales!! Tea and salad me arse

    Zero chance of winning the league is about right, give or take a few games when they are playing like they were on drugs

  72. chas says:

    No probs.
    Picking holes is all i’m good at. An original constructive thought has never passed through the desert of my mind .

    Also, sarcasm is my preferred mode of discourse.
    Sorry, Rasp. 🙂

  73. Ant says:

    RA 8.33 actually it was Chas holding the tea cup to my mouth as I couldn’t hold three things at once to do the selfie..ffnaar ffnaar

  74. Big Raddy says:

    Great to see the Road Show is back on AA

  75. Ant says:

    Pies and ales it is O Polish one

  76. Ant says:

    DLT is in the Gents cubicle as well BR like the radio 1 road shows

  77. Eddie says:

    nope, pork chop and vodka darling 🙂
    have a great day!!

  78. mickydidit89 says:

    the nibbles 🙂

  79. Ant says:

    Have we bought Carvalho yet?

  80. GoonerB says:

    Morning all. RC I strongly advise you to heed Terry’s advice. His mantra is without equal and you only need to look at where it has got him to today to realise this is the way forward.

    If we have to talk about full-backs however, I am in the camp of being fairly happy. When we are exposed at the FB area or a bad game occurs I tend to feel it is more a training issue than quality one. It tends to happen when we are having a bad game in general or when we are chasing a game we should already be well up in a game and controlling it in a manner that is less gung-ho than we sometimes see.

    As such I still feel it is mainly about turning our dominance in games into something more concrete. I could rarely see a situation where one of the European giants wouldn’t be well on top of teams like WHU or Palace by half time and this is where we should be aiming.

    Knowing when to hold a defensive position and when to attack is a training and team tactic issue. I have also noticed thatour F.B ‘s don’t seem to be greatly trained in the art of crossing. Even noticed that with ourex ones at Man Citeh now.

  81. Ant says:

  82. Ant says:

    We have only gone to Newcastle to get the away credits up for BR and Didit to go to Zagreb

  83. chas says:

    So basically you’re saying our defensive coaching is shit?

  84. Ant says:

  85. chas says:

    Is that meant to be “Durex ones at Man City”?

  86. Ant says:

    The smut has started..

  87. Ant says:

    Where’s RC78 when we need him?

  88. Ant says:

    Here’s the pre match.. Giroud and 1-0

  89. mickydidit89 says:

    Everyone ignore GoonerB and his way-too-serious sensible football talk. I noticed there was an awful lot of it going on while I was away……mmm 🙂

    Our defensive coaching is fine. Shit at the other end, yes 🙂

  90. mickydidit89 says:

    Dear God No. Please tell us that’s a photoshop pic and that you didn’t go out in public in a football shirt and shorts

  91. Ant says:

    It is now freezing and 100% cloud cover

  92. Ant says:

    9.21 is in Copenhagen Micky and shorts are allowed there

  93. Ant says:

  94. Ant says:

    It’s raining now

  95. Eddie says:

    sorry GB, micky is right, we have all ignored your sensible comment. It’s the Vines influence , like us getting drunk by proxy

    BTW, I don’t think it is a training issue, I seriously think it is the immaturity of our team. I often get an impression that they are still testing their abilities during match games. Another thing that pisses me off is that when our team underperforms it is not just one or two players, they all collapse somehow. Why is that? The male bonding or overreliance on key players? Fecking domino effect – Santi having a bad day and they all disintegrate

  96. Big Raddy says:

    9.14 Was that the win or the loss in Copenhagen. I was there for the win – the longest 90 minutes of my life.

  97. LB says:

    I am trying to work out what the dressings are accompanying the crudities above…….

    Mayonnaise, tzatziki, taramasalata and maybe a salmon based dip.

    It’s all so confusing………..

  98. Big Raddy says:

    Chelsea sign LOL

  99. Ant says:

    Regrettably the loss BR but we enjoyed ourselves regardless.

  100. mickydidit89 says:

    Agree LB. Very challenging 🙂

    As for 9:27 pic. If you lot ever come to Devon, I’ll introduce you to Pete in the village. I think you’ll become good friends.

  101. RA says:

    I think the Road Show stars are a little bit efete and the Crudités are accompanied with a nice French vinaigrette. 🙂

  102. Big Raddy says:

    There is a New Post

  103. RA says:

    bugger – either my mate’s laptop or me cannot spell – efete = effete.

    Mind you, if you type ‘efete’ you will get auto-corrected to ‘feet’.

  104. Big Raddy says:

    Crudités and croissants? What is wrong with some proper English food?

  105. Big Raddy says:

    RA. I said there is a …..

    New Post 😀

  106. RA says:

    Thank you, Raddy. 🙂

    [At least it won’t be by that dreadful GB chap.] 🙂

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