Arsenal … Like for Like … there’s not much to like

There can be very little to celebrate about yesterday’s result except that we managed a point in a game where we were second best. Most of us have posted comments repeating things that we have said many times before regarding the reasons for our frailties …. quite frankly its become boring.

The table below shows the like for like fixtures compared to last season (it pays homage to GiE’s much maligned swingometer) We won all 6 games against newly promoted teams last season and so any draws or losses to this years newcomers is a worse result.

The conclusion is that we’ve been better in 2 games, the same in 10 games and worse in 5 games … hardly progress 😦

Make of it what you will and give us your views in comments.




72 Responses to Arsenal … Like for Like … there’s not much to like

  1. Big Raddy says:

    Thanks Rasp.

    That makes depressing reading especially considering the signings and retention of players in summer

  2. Rasp says:

    Sorry I couldn’t come up with something a bit less depressing Raddy 😦

    We can’t hide from the facts. We can do nothing to change things except support the team whenever we have the opportunity.

    Logically 4th place is well within our grasp if we can get anywhere near a team that brings out the best in the players we have available.

  3. Malaysian gunner says:

    I know there are still many months but Arsenal can only fight for 3rd/4th.The defence has been a problem for many moons but Wenger doesn’t seem overly concerned.
    To start winning you must have a solid defence.Frankly the fm has wasted a lot of time and I won’t be surprised he will have to go at the end of the season.

  4. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Thanks Rasp
    Defo 4th within our grasp, but clearly we’ll need key fit players back. Then it’s pretty much pot luck whether they gel into an effective side.

  5. Rasp says:

    Hi Micky, do you really think it is ‘pot luck’? – that suggests that we (those who run the club) have no control over things.

  6. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I can’t see a pattern as to our direction, can you?

  7. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Luckily I have a lot of work to blitz through, because I could get a bit livid thinking too long about yesterdays performance 🙂

  8. Rasp says:

    No I agree, that’s the frustration. Of course supporters will look to new signings to improve the situation, and I’m not saying we shouldn’t reinforce the squad, but we can’t rely on any miracles in January.

  9. mattijames says:

    We lost 3-0 away to Everton last year – strike another one up for the ‘better’ column…. not that it makes much better reading

  10. Rasp says:

    Thanks matt, my apologies, I knocked this up in a hurry and got my wires crossed, the draw was in the home game last season.

  11. fatgingergooner says:

    These like for likes are ok for a quick glance, but what’s not shown is the order of the games.

    The reason we won so many games last season was the fact we had all our hard games in 2 solid blocks. The rest of the time we had easy runs. That enabled us to build momentum, form and confidence. This season we have our big games spread out and therefore it’s more difficult to keep momentum.

    Look at Southampton. If they’d played Burnley 3 weeks ago they would’ve hammered them, but because they just lost 3 on the bounce to United, Arsenal and City, suddenly Burnley is a tough game and they lose 1-0.

    I can still only see massive improvement on the horizon for this team. They’ve had to contend with absolutely ridiculous injuries and once that eases then they will go on a run.

    Last 7 games has brought 5 wins, 1 draw, 1 loss. Maybe the run has already started?

  12. Big Raddy says:

    FGG. Let’s hope so.

  13. Good points fatginge

    Don’t know if anyone else will do this but I’m gonna watch the Stoke v Chavs game tonight to see if the orcs play a similar game as they did against us…. see if Charlie Adam pulls Costa or Fabregas to the flour by the neck, or if Crouch starts putting his elbow into the faces of Cahill or Terry? and if they do, whether they get yellow or red cards.

  14. flour = floor……. I’m cooking dumplings so mistake understandable 🙂

  15. Big Raddy says:

    NB. I will be with you on the sofa.

    This morning I tried to book Monaco tickets through their website. Got nowhere just a sign saying “complet”

    Will have to try again when the box office opens after Xmas

  16. GunnerN5 says:

    I don’t know how many more excuses/reasons can be fabricated for our poor performances. Regardless of our injury list we put out a strong team on Sunday and we were over run by an average Liverpool side.

    We simply did not employ the right tactics and did not make any timely adjustments. We need to be more reactive or we will and up with Spurs in the Thursday league,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  17. arnie says:

    thanks, Rasp. Depressing indeed. well done for stepping in and producing a little gem. 🙂

    That is a loss of 7 points like for like. if only ….. Worth a thought. 😦

  18. I think there was a plan……. of sorts,

    1) Keep it tight at the back for the first twenty minutes. DO NOT concede an early goal.

    2) If successful, try to hit them on the break before half-time. DO NOT concede a goal.

    44 minutes gone and the plan is working.

    Oh no it’s not!

    We give the ball away and there’s no Corporal Jones to shout “Don’t Panic! Don’t Panic”.

    We panic and go one down.

    Plan goes out of the window, everyone bombs forward and, wonder of wonders, we score with our first attempt on target.

    Half-time team talk,

    1) Repeat item 1 above.

    2) If successful try to hit them on the break before full-time.

    19 minutes gone and the plan is working, we hit them on the break and score.

    DO NOT concede a goal.

    Deep into injury time and the plan is working.

    Oh no it’s not!

    We give the ball away and there’s no Corporal Jones to shout “Don’t Panic! Don’t Panic”.

    We panic and it’s two all.

    Deja-vu all over again.

  19. arnie says:

    That is a fair summation, Norfolk. 🙂

  20. arnie says:

    Arnie sat 5 mins on that smiley, then said, what the heck, and pressed the “post comment” button. such is life.


    Cheers Rasp

    Injuries cost us that game, they are really beginning to bite

    Defensively Arsenal are a team that defends space and offensively are more efficient in the 2nd half. when the pressing game employed to stop us playing can not be maintained

    Liverpool employed the same pressing tactics but with a different shape. Anyone remember the Wigan home match a couple of years back?. They employed the same shape and effectively denied us the ball

    After going in level i thought we would come out and win the match but the loss of half a squad proved to much and by the end we looked a bit of a rabble.

    Potentially we are better than last year but are we going to get a chance to prove it? If this injury record continues we wont.

    However, we have to keep faith with our beliefs. The philosophy is sound enough to get top four and a good basis to build on and should not be abandoned because it now and again comes undone.

    Bit more luck with injuries, internal improvement especially amongst our younger players, and the addition of one or two top players with quality will turn everything around.

    The Ghosts of the Thirties are Stirring

  22. The Cockie Monster says:

    Yes, we are not quite the shittest side in North London yet and our like for like is shite, but our saving grace is that Liverpool have been average up to this point and they with the Spuds will be our main enemies for 4th spot by the time we get into business end of the season….had Liverpool had the start they had last season, I think 4th would have been an impossibility at the least !. hahaha
    My cunning plan is that we don’t get any CL or Europa next year and by buying an expert DM and Central Defender in the summer, we will have time for injuries to heal and have basically one game per week and no fatigue crap, this will enable us to play a 100 mile per hour pressing game every week and will win us the League !……Liverpool nearly did it last year in the same circumstances and Manshafter Std should have done it this year had it not been for a new manager and a bad Fergusonless Transfer Window !.
    I know, I can hear you thinking…..” Why isn`t this genius Arsenal`s manager ! “. hahaha

  23. The Cockie Monster says:

    Two top players !, Stretch. Basically you agree with me and if it wasn`t for your sexual obsession with Wenger, would want me as manager as well !. hahaha

  24. RockyLives says:

    Nice one Rasp

    Yesterday was another performance that showed the value of Arteta. We really miss him as we don’t have anyone else who can sit at the base of the MF and control the ball. When Jack and Aaron are fit they can do this to some extent, but without any of those three our possession game just falls down.

    The annoying thing is that we appear to have no killer instinct. We played ManUre at a time when they were pants – and rather than kill them off we kick started their revival. We played Liverpool at a time when their confidence is rock bottom and, naturally, we kick started them too (the press are full of how it was their best performance at Anfield all year, they’ve rediscovered how to play like last season etc etc).

    When we smell blood we don’t go for the jugular, we go for the juggler, then drop the balls.

    All we can do is keep on supporting the team, hope we get players back sooner rather than later and hope AW can do something in the transfer window.

  25. arnie says:

    all is not lost, but the next two away games will make or break this season. if we win both, we are good, else …. sad! 😛

  26. The Cockie Monster says:

    I should add, that I`m not a Twatter follower !………if I follow someone it usually involves a raincoat and disguise……and a shrub if handy !.

  27. RockyLives says:


    That’ll be five million people all writing “Eff off Wenger” then… 🙂


    hahaha Cornwall.

    Are you sure you want the job? I transfer my sexual obsession to all current Arsenal managers

    I was the only one who thought Stewart Houston did not resemble the runner up of the 3.30 at Lingfield and got into a fight with a geezer who I overheard suggest that Bruce Rioch looked like he had been inflated with helium.

  29. The Cockie Monster says:

    hahaha…..true Stretch !….in the past, you have always backed me up !……but, I may need a court order next time !.

  30. The Cockie Monster says:

    I may have to join Twatter then, Rockylicious !. 😀

  31. The Cockie Monster says:

    I bet you are crying out for a Woman manager, Stretch !….it must be hard for you to have to have sexual fantasies about our men managers, being a Crete hetro`…..Wenger out !……Eddie in !.

  32. arnie says:

    Michael Carberry breaks his bat when facing Australia’s Ryan Harris during day three of the Fifth Ashes Test

  33. chas says:

    Well done for getting a post out, Rasp.

    It certainly has been a shite season so far.

    As far as comparing this season with last goes, the only thing in our favour is that the overall points totals are down compared to last (except for the chavs and the light blue oilers).

    Our measly 27 points this term would have had us in 9th last season as opposed to 6th and the mancs and hammers on 32 and 31 points respectively would have found themselves in 6th and 7th last season instead on 3rd and 4th this.
    (I know I’m clutching at straws 🙂 )

  34. chas says:

    p.s. bring back the swingometer.

  35. The Cockie Monster says:

    Good link, chas !…..basically saying the same as me and also that I should be manager !……but I don’t want you getting any sexual ideas like Tranniesplant !. hahaha

  36. The Cockie Monster says:

  37. chas says:

    Soz, I never read your comments, Cockie. 😆

  38. Big Raddy says:

    Hell of a day.

    This Druidry is all well and good but it is exhausting. A night on the mead whilst dancing around the sacred stones. Then there is all the deflowering and sacrificing.

    I tell you the longest night is an absolute bastard as you get older. I much prefer the summer solstice – less of everything.

    Mind you it wasn’t like that when I was just a newbie. I could carouse with the best of them.

  39. GoonerB says:

    Oh no have you been deflowered today Raddy?

    Thanks for the post rasp. I am away at present so will comment more when I have the time.

    Briefly on the tactics of Liverpool and ourselves. GIE put up an interesting analysis by Phil Neville yesterday in how Liverpool overloaded Flamini in front of the back 4. It beggars the question that surely we could have responded tactically to this and further that for them to put extra players there must have left holes elsewhere that we could have exploited?

    The other thing is that Liverpool essentially played a false 9 with Sterling which generally gives an extra body in the midfield. The downside can be the direct goal threat which Liverpool lacked. It takes a special player to operate this deeper central role but also provide a goal threat as well. Sterling is not yet a prolific marksman. It made me think about our potential false 9’s and I came up with Sanchez and Walcott, both of whom have pace and can score goals. Surely we could have switched to match their system but have been better due to the greater goal threat of our false 9’s.

  40. Gööner In Exile says:

    I am aware our points total is worse than last season in regards to like for like (as you say Rasp I do the swingo) I will put up some other plus/minuses this term, they may surprise some people.

    GoonerB on yesterday’s tactics I think the problem was personnel, and fear of pace in behind, as Neville says the real way to counteract their shape was to ask our full backs to squeeze in to pick up Lallana and Coutinho, however doing so would have opened up the flanks to be exploited by Sterling drifting wide away from Debuchy and BFG, with the fullbacks departed it would have meant they would have to track him and then leave gaping holes in the middle. In reality their equaliser came from open play so we had stopped th scoring when shape was an issue. So you could say we coped well with their shape.

    The bigger problem was that we needed to push up when we had possession and we needed to longer and compete for knockdowns to get a foothold further up the pitch.

    Unfortunately this is more difficult given the defence was not squeezing and it is not our game. Also it means that you will give up possession more often than not.

    Now I’m other conspiracy news I have not looked back at the Stoke game, but the stats are something like this:

    Fouls Stoke 17 Arsenal 14
    Bookings Stoke 3 Arsenal 4 (including a second for Chambers)

    Tonight’s game
    Fouls Stoke 5 Chavs 3
    Bookings Stoke 2 Chavs 0

    So how does one explain the bookings per foul ratio in each game?

  41. Gööner In Exile says:

    Ok back with those wonderful little gems that the swing is throwing up:

    Just for the record the three promoted teams replace the three relegated teams as such:

    Cardiff – Burnley
    Norwich – Leicester
    Fulham – QPR

    Ok so lets start by having a look at those having a wondrous start to the season and exceeding expectations:

    Southampton down 3 points
    Manure level points
    West Ham plus 9 points
    Chelsea plus 9 points
    Shitty plus 5 points

    Hard to believe that isn’t it? People would have you believe Van Gaal and Koemann are exceeding their predecessors results when in reality they are just about equal.

    West Ham have clearly improved and so far so have Chavs and City.

    Liverpool are a shocking 14 points down on last seasons equivalent games and an even more staggering 21 goals down.

    We have scored 6 more, conceded 1 more but somehow have conspired to be 6 points down on the prior year like for like games.

    Spuds are minus 2 points

    Burnley are 3 points better off than Cardiff were for the same matches, QPR 5 points better than Fulham’s record last season, and Leicester are a point worse than Norwich.

    My top 4 according to Swingo will be as follows:

    Chavs 104
    Shitty 99
    Arsenal 65
    Spuds = ManUre 64

    This swing assumes our percentage of lost points in the first 17 games is followed in the second half of the season. So our 46 points last term will only yield 38 points.

  42. neamman says:

    I am a big AW supporter but for the first time I have to wonder. last year we all could see that we needed another central defender and ..more importantly.. a defensive midfielder. I can only assume that AW tried and failed to get who he wanted. I know injuries have been as bad as usual but with all our players back its much more of an offensive boost than a defensive one. We have stood still and others have advanced. I just cant see us getting 4th or 3rd this year unless we improve in our own half.

  43. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    Gearing up for Yule.

    We have strange, heathen practices over here. Yule dinner of the 24th. Dancing around the tree which is candle-lit – no electric lighting allowed etc etc.

  44. Big Raddy says:

    Joe Cocker was a great bloke.

    I went drinking with him a couple of times in the ’90’s.

    Also one of the first people I saw live. Same year as he played Woodstock.

    A proper hippy.

  45. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I’m never going to Denmark for Christmas, as I’m never holding hands with people, and that’s final.

  46. Morning girls

    Chas, was that vid of christmas eve in Denmark a candidate for the most boring vid of the day 🙂

  47. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Actually Raddy, I don’t think it’s that unusual to have the big feast on the 24th
    Pretty sure one of my children mentioned that the other day.
    Anyway, long day for me as I don’t want to work tomorrow. Really looking forward to Christmas this year.
    Three cheers for the Christians and Druids I say 🙂

  48. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Wouldn’t let that bloke anywhere near my cats. Think of anything unsavoury a man can be, and he looks like one of them

  49. Big Raddy says:

    That chaps head is on upside down

  50. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Raddy 🙂

    So many suspicious give aways about his whole appearance. Screams “don’t let him anywhere near children, women, Harley Davidson enthusiasts, pets or indeed animals of any description”

  51. arnie says:

    motning all.

    coming from Neamman, that was a it sad. 😦

    still nothing much to say. Except that I am glad it is Christmas. And that we are at home on Boxing Day. 🙂

  52. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Right. Conference call with Denmark. Might be seeing you sooner than thought, Big. Robe Up 🙂

  53. I think his name is the give away… Jackson Galaxy 🙂

  54. Big Raddy says:

    Micky. We have a yurt for you – unheated of course but you will be fine with a few furs

  55. Big Raddy says:

    Hadn’t noticed his name. What a knob

  56. Since Chas posted the video of this bird singing I’ve become addicted to her channel…….. I’m waiting for her to do her christmas video topless and wearing a Santa hat 🙂

  57. A boring video just for Yvonne:

  58. Morning all

    Anyone got a post up their sleeve we can use today?

  59. Big Raddy says:

    Nope. Sorry. Will write one for tomorrow if I have time

  60. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Oh Peaches
    Apart from being up to my Arse, I’m in the “If you can’t say anything positive….” camp, so footbally stuff from me is out.

    How about a caption competition

    A pic of Arsene chatting to Stevie B or
    Stan talking to anyone or
    Ivan or
    Two Fans talking (although my hopes there wouldn’t be high)

    I’d do it, but can’t remember how to copy pics

  61. arnie says:

    Peaches. How about a vote about what strategy AAers think will work best for the club. Based on Norfolk’s 3:56. 🙂

    If you wish, I can construct something quick and “dirty”. 🙂

  62. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Quick and Dirty

    You’ve sooo got the job, Arnie 🙂

  63. stevepalmer1 says:

    Morning all, one in Nuts,
    I penned this after the game, but you had one already, Probably enough been said already.

  64. arnie says:

    sent. 🙂

  65. Rasp says:

    Too late, I’ve just done one 😦

    ….. New post …..

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