Arsenal’s Greatest Forwards – Day 3

Continuing our Summer series of articles in search of Arsenal’s greatest ever team, this week we begin our quest for the greatest forwards to include in our team.  Don’t forget to take the opportunity to choose your personal favourite striker from an earlier era by voting in the poll on Saturday.

7. Cliff Bastin: 1929-1946.

Cliff appeared in 396 games over a 17 year period and scored 178 goals.

cliff bastinBorn in Heavitree near Exeter, Cliff started his career at Exeter City, making his début for the club in 1928, at the age of 16. Despite only playing 17 games and scoring 6 goals in his time at Exeter, he was spotted by Arsenal manager Herbert Chapman in a match against Watford; Chapman was attending to keep tabs on a Watford player, but the 17-year-old Bastin’s ability was so evident that Chapman decided to sign him at the end of the 1928-29 season.

He made his début against Everton on 5 October 1929 and was immediately a first team regular, making 21 appearances that season. He went on to become an integral player in the side over the next decade, playing over 35 matches for every season up to and including 1937-38. His play was characterised by a remarkable coolness, and deadly precision in front of goal; he also became Arsenal’s regular penalty taker. Cliff’s scoring feats are all the more remarkable considering he played on the left wing rather than as centre forward; at the time Arsenal’s strategy depended heavily on their wingers cutting into the penalty box, and the supply of passes from Alex James was the source of many of his goals.

Cliff won the FA Cup twice, in 1929-30 and 1935-36, and the First Division title five times, in 1930-31, 1932-33, 1933-34, 1934-35 and 1937-38 and by the age of nineteen he had won a League title, FA Cup and been capped for England, making him the youngest player ever to do all three. Cliff also finished as Arsenal top scorer twice (1932–33 and 1933–34, though after centre-forward Ted Drake arrived in March 1934, Cliff was no longer Arsenal’s number one target man. With Drake scoring the lion’s share of the goals and Alex James increasingly unavailable due to injury and age, Cliff was moved to inside-forward to replace James for much of the 1935-36 season but he still scored 17 goals, including six in Arsenal’s run to the 1936 FA Cup Final, which they won 1-0. After a stint at right half to cover for Jack Crayston, he was eventually restored to the left wing and scored 17 goals in the 1937-38 title-winning season.

Cliff formed an integral part of the side that dominated English football in the 1930s. He scored 178 goals in 396 games, which made him Arsenal’s all-time top goal scorer from 1939 until 1997, when his total was surpassed by Ian Wright. In 2005 Thierry Henry passed both Bastin and Wright’s totals, thus meaning Bastin is currently Arsenal’s third-top goal scorer of all time. His record of 150 league goals for Arsenal stood for slightly longer, until it was equalled by Thierry Henry on 14 January 2006 and surpassed on 1 February.

During his career Cliff also played for England between 1931 and 1938, winning 21 caps and scoring 12 goals.  Highlights of his England career included the famous “Battle of Highbury”, where England defeated 1934 World Cup winners Italy 3-2, and a notorious

match against Germany in Berlin in 1938, when the England team was ordered to give the Nazi salute before the match.

His career was cut short at its peak when WW11 started; he was excused military service as he failed the army hearing test owing to his increasing deafness. Thus, during the war, he served as an ARP Warden, being stationed on top of Highbury stadium. After the war was over, Cliff, by now in his thirties, would only play seven more times before retiring in January 1947.

After retirement, he returned to his native Exeter and ran a pub.  A stand at St James Park, Exeter’s home ground, is named in his honour and in 2009 he was inducted into the English Football Hall of Fame.

He died in 1991 at the age of 79

8. Reg Lewis: 1935-1953

Reg appeared in 176 games over an 18 year period and scored 118 goals.

Reg LewisBorn in Bilston, Staffordshire, Reg spent his entire career at Arsenal. He joined the club as a schoolboy in 1935, and scored on his debut against Everton on January 1, 1938. He made only four appearances in 1937-38, however, and as a result missed out on a League Championship winners’ medal. He broke into the first-team more in 1938-39, making 16 appearances in league and cup, scoring 7 goals, but the advent of the WW11 interrupted his career.

During the war he continued to play for Arsenal and shone as a natural goal scorer; although wartime appearances and goals are not officially counted, he scored 143 goals in 130 games, including four in the 1943 War Cup Southern Final, in a 7-1 demolition of Charlton Athletic. Towards the end of the war he served in the British Army of the Rhine in Occupied Germany, but returned to play for Arsenal once first-class football resumed in 1946. Although most of the Arsenal side of the 1930s were past their best by this time, Reg was still only 26 and he continued to be a regular in the first team throughout the remainder of the 1940s. He was the club’s top scorer in 1946-47 with 29 goals, and the following season (1947-48), he partnered new signing Ronnie Rooke and between them they scored 47 goals as Arsenal won the First Division title.

He continued to be a regular for the rest of the decade and he enjoyed arguably his best season in 1949-50; he scored 19 goals in 31 league games, played twice for the England B team. However, during the early 1950s, Reg became constantly afflicted with injuries, and he made only 12 appearances in 1951-52 and none at all in 1952-53.

His tally of 118 in 176 first-team games puts him 13th in the all-time list but his total figure from 1935 to 1953 was a staggering 392 in 451 matches. His finest hour came in the 1950 FA Cup final, when he scored both goals in a 2-0 win over Liverpool.

In the close season of 1953, he retired from the game at the age of 33. After retiring, Reg first ran a pub, and then worked in insurance.

Reg passed away in 1997 aged 77 years.

9. Jimmy Logie: 1939-1955 

Jimmy appeared in 328 games over a 16 year period and scored 76 goals.

Born in Edinburgh and raised in the city’s Grassmarket, Jimmy first played for Scottish junior side Lochore Welfare, before being signed by Arsenal in June 1939. Soon afterwards World War II broke out, and he was called up; he served in the Royal Navy for the entire duration of the conflict.

JImmy LogieAfter being demobbed he rejoined Arsenal, playing several wartime matches, before making his full first-team debut against Wolves on 31 August 1946. Jimmy was a talented and creative player (many observers likened him to his fellow countryman Alex James, who had played for Arsenal in the 1930s), and for the next eight seasons he was a regular in the Arsenal side, playing at inside forward.

He took part in all of Arsenal’s early post-war successes; winning two First Division titles in 1947-48 and 1952-53.  He also lifted the 1950 FA Cup (setting up both goals in the 2-0 win over Liverpool) and played in the 1952 final when the Gunners were beaten 1-0 by Newcastle after playing 55 minutes with just 10 men. In the latter stages of his career he also served as Arsenal vice-captain, behind Joe Mercer.

In all he played 328 matches for Arsenal, scoring 76 goals and after a distinguished career with Arsenal, he was transferred to Gravesend and Northfleet for £2,000 in February 1955.

Despite his success at Arsenal, Jimmy only ever won a single a cap for Scotland, playing against Northern Ireland on 5 November 1952.

After retirement Jimmy fell on hard times; football was not the lucrative profession it is currently, and he was a keen gambler. He eventually ended up working for a newsagent in Piccadilly Circus.

Jimmy Logie dedicated almost 16 years of his life to Arsenal.

He died in 1984, aged 64.

10. Doug Lishman: 1948-1956.

Doug appeared in 244 games over an 8 year period and scored 137 goals.

Born in Birmingham, Doug first played as a centre forward for non-league Paget Rangers, before signing as a professional for Third Division South Walsall in August 1946. In two seasons with the Saddlers, Lishman scored 26 goals in 59 league appearances.

Doug LishmanHe was signed by Arsenal in the summer of 1948 for £10,500, as backup for Reg Lewis, who was only 28 but was injured frequently, Doug made his debut against Sheffield United on September 4, 1948, but after a promising first season (scoring 13 goals in 25 appearances), and his 1949-50 and 1950-51 seasons were marred by injuries. He was passed over for the 1950 FA Cup final (which Arsenal won 2-0), in favour of Lewis and Peter Goring, and then just as he came back into the Arsenal first team, he broke his leg playing against Stoke City in December 1950.

However, he recovered to become Arsenal’s top scorer in 1950-51, and the next season hit 30 goals, including three hat-tricks in three successive home matches; Arsenal finished third that season. The following season (1951-52) they reached the FA Cup final, only to lose to Newcastle United; a series of injuries meant only eight fit players finished the match (no substitutes were allowed in those days). Doug came close for Arsenal with a header, which clipped the crossbar, but Arsenal lost 1-0.

His disappointment was soon forgotten, as Arsenal won the League Championship in 1952-53. He was again Arsenal’s top scorer, this time with 26, and with every goal proving vital, Arsenal won the title on goal average above Preston North End. His form was good enough for him to be picked for an England B match against Scotland B in March 1953, although he was never capped for the full national side.

Doug was top scorer for another two seasons after that, making it five successive seasons as the club’s top scorer in total. He scored 137 goals in 244 appearances, making him the club’s tenth-highest goal scorer of all time. However with younger men like Derek Tapscott and David Herd taking over goal scoring duties for Arsenal, Doug was dropped from the first team in 1955-56.

In March 1956 he was sold to Second Division Nottingham Forest. He scored a hat-trick in the match that got Forest promoted (a 4-0 win over Sheffield United) to Division One in 1956-57, but decided to retire in the summer of 1957. He left the game entirely after retiring. He joined his father-in law in business (furniture retail) in Stoke on Trent, later taking over the business himself.

He continued to live in Stoke on Trent until his death in 1994.

Written by GunnerN5 and compiled by Gooner in Exile


72 Responses to Arsenal’s Greatest Forwards – Day 3

  1. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Good morning to you all.

    More great players from the (not so distant) past.

    I recall watching Logie and Lishman play and Cliff Bastin’s name rang a bell, but have no memory whatsoever of Reg Lewis although I must have seen him play on more than one occasion.

    Funny thing the mind.

  2. Gooner In Exile says:

    So history repeats itself…..James to Bastin became Bergkamp to Henry.

    It amazes me that football really hasn’t changed that much wingers that cut in towards goal were dangerous then and remain dangerous today, yet for some reason it is not encouraged in the English game.

    Another bunch of heroes as I said this morning three of whom I never knew about, how frustrating for the likes of Logie, Lewid and Bastin to have so much competitive football robbed from them as a result of WWII.

  3. Norfolk Gooner says:

    Gotta go, grass needs cutting.

    I shall take my early memories of these great Arsenal stalwarts with me, even unto the lawns of Norfolk 😀

  4. mickydidit89 says:


    Biggest thank you so far. Bastin.

    Sign that man up immediately. Exactly what the doctor ordered. Scoring left winger. Oh happiest of happy days. 🙂

  5. GunnerN5 says:

    Good morning,

    I was lucky enough top see all 4 of these greats play. Logie was my personal favourite and I used to pretend I was him when we played kick about football.

    Bastin and Logie were like Joe Hulme – real old fashioned, high scoring wingers. I was at Highbury to see all 3 of Lishman’s consecutive hat tricks, i most likely saw all of his home games.

    Those were the day’s, never had a care in the world – just football and dreaming of one day playing for the Arsenal, until I blew my left knee open.

  6. GunnerN5 says:

    Should have read Bastin and Lishman were like Joe Hulme –

  7. Norfolk Gooner says:

    In the early sixties I worked around the West End, I often used Piccadilly Circus underground station, there was a newspaper seller at one of the entrances with a scottish accent, I wonder if that was Jimmy Logie.

  8. GunnerN5 says:

    This youngster must be really good, I’d never heard of him until I noticed that he is one of the squad of 24 named for the Asian tour.


    Arsenal have high hopes for new signing Gedion Zelalem.

    Zelalem is a 16-year-old German with an Ethiopian father and has been training with the first team and is expected to be promoted to the squad next season.

    He was not even attached to a professional side when he was spotted by Arsenal’s US scout, Danny Karbassiyoon.

    His father – Zelalem Woldyes – was granted asylum in Germany, where his son was born.

    Though the youngster was enrolled in Hertha Berlin’s youth programme, the family moved to Washington DC in 2006, where he was playing for Walter Johnson High School when he came to Arsenal’s attention

  9. Big Raddy says:

    Boy Bastin. How wonderful is that …. he remained Boy Bastin for his whole AFC career. It took almost 60 years for his record to be overtaken.

    Lovely day here and I guess all over Europe. Must be why there are so few comments

  10. Red Arse says:

    Another great read, GN5. :-0

    I know the names but never saw them play, but oddly enough that makes the bios more interesting!

    As regards Zedion, I saw him towards the end of the Jnr season playing for the Reserves, I think. A slim, clever player who seemed very assured. I am pretty sure he played in the end of season U21s tournament and did not look out of place.

  11. GunnerN5 says:


    It’s a lovely day here as well, after a torrential thunder storm yesterday that flooded many areas of Toronto, where Rocky lives.

    I mentioned earlier that I had seen all 4 players play, but on reflection I cannot remember ever seeing Bastin play live, it must have been on Pathe newsreels.

  12. GunnerN5 says:


    It’s strange but even though I did see many of the players live, I realized as I was doing the research that I really did not know that much about them – so it was very enlightening.

  13. RockyLives says:

    We flew in on Monday evening during that torrential downpour that flooded large parts of Toronto.

    The plane flew around above the storm for an hour or so (there was talk of diverting to Buffalo) but eventually the weather moved off the airport and we landed.

    It then took 3 hours to get a taxi home, because the freeways were so flooded that cars could not get to and from the airport.

    When you get weather in Canada you certainly get proper weather.

  14. RockyLives says:

    Interesting group of players who, in their day, were clearly as much heroes as the likes of Wright, Bergkamp and Henry have been in more recent times.

    It’s interesting that Norfolk has no memory of Reg Lewis. I have heard of the other three, but had never heard of Reg before today (or at least don’t remember having heard of him). Yet his stats show he was clearly an incredibly gifted player.

  15. GunnerN5 says:

    I agree Rocky, they were all fantastic players.

    Others who watched them play may remember, as I do, that Lishman took a lot of stick from the fans and was frequently taunted as he ran up and down the wing. I recollect him being fouled and falling over, as he got up one of the fans yelled at him ” Hey Lishman you dropped your handbag” which created a chorus of laughter.

  16. RockyLives says:

    Haha – good story Gn5. Lishman has had the last laugh – he’s made it into the long list for our all time squad!

  17. Red Arse says:

    I do not wish to be controversial, so this is more of an observation of transfer activity based on limited facts or knowledge, because like everyone else I am not privy to first hand info, and AA is quiet at the mo’.

    It seemed to be accepted by the media, the blog world and Gooners in general, that shortly after Gazidis had bragged about having a £70m transfer budget, all attention was focused on Arsenal’s interest in Jovetic.

    Now as I recall Juventus also, initially, declared their interest, before their Chairman said he believed the Jove was going to Arsenal. What appeared to be the only sticking point was that the Fiorentina Chairman made it clear Arsenal would not get ‘by Jove’ cheaply, and they would have to pay big bucks for him.

    In case No.2 it seemed that everyone and his uncle believed Arsenal were going to buy Higuain, especially as the player’s dad said he would be moving to Arsenal ‘soon’, blah, blah.

    Again, it seemed that the only two sticking points were the appointment of a Real manager, to approve the deal, and Perez saying Arsenal would have to meet their asking price — and this after the player had allegedly said he wanted to leave. (His Mrs has a ‘media’ job in London). Finally, Perez has now said that there have been no bids from Arsenal, at all.

    All that aside, and let’s face it, Perez has a track record for dissemination, the thing in common with the stories about these two high profile players is that there seems to have been no substance to either of them — or, heaven forfend, somebody is lying.

    We could dismiss all of this as ‘Red Top’ fantasy, but these stories have obviously titillated the Arsenal fans and raised their expectations, perhaps unrealistically, despite Mr Gazidis’ protestations to the contrary, and would make the cynic reflect that Arsenal, by remaining quiet, have done so with one eye on Season ticket renewals/sales.

    I am not a cynic, altho’ others may be better judges of that, but I am realist enough to feel that the Arsenal management would have been well aware of their fans’ hopes and expectations for a ‘marquee’ transfer acquisition, and by not dismissing the rumours as unfounded, they have done all Gooners, even the realists among us, a disservice by not denying them.

    My advice to Arsene and Gazidis would be;
    — if the rumours are untrue — say so — the fans may be disappointed but at least they can discount the continuing crappy stories which artificially raise their hopes; but,
    — if the rumours are based on fact, tell it how it is, and bollox to Mr Perez and all the other crooked b*stards who have their own agendas, with no concern or consideration for the honest fan.

    Gooners everywhere deserve better from their club, than to be left bemused, bewildered and disappointed, because we do not know who or what to believe.

    Come on Arsenal, you know it is the right thing to do!

  18. Red Arse says:


    Glad you got back OK.

    ‘Circling’ in an aircraft, waiting for the weather to break, is unpleasant, as it is normally accompanied by turbulence at those levels, clouds outside, and too much farting inside, altho’ it seems from what you said, the cumulonimbus in Canada has short legs, and you, or the plane, flew above it!! 😀

  19. chas says:

    I couldn’t disagree more.

  20. chas says:

    …about the club saying which rumours are true or not.
    Why the f*ck should they conduct any transfer negotiations in the open? That’s for other dishonest and disingenuous participants in the whole process.

  21. chas says:

    Super stuff, GN5.

    I agree with RA, the biogs of the earlier players make for much better reading because it’s all new to me.

  22. chas says:

    Season ticket renewals were for 1st June, by the way.

  23. chas says:

    Reg Lewis in 1950 cup final.

  24. chas says:

    Cliff Bastin giving moral support to Alex James.
    (Joe Hulme making a terrible racist joke 🙂 )

  25. Red Arse says:

    Oh OK, Chas,

    Sorry I voiced an opinion you found disagreeable on a a quiet day.

    I would hate to displease you.

  26. chas says:

    Bastin 1936 semi-final

  27. chas says:

    I wasn’t meaning to upset you in any way.
    In actual fact, I assumed you wanted to brighten a quiet day with some lively discussion.
    Besides your opinion is probably far more valid than mine as it would be shared by the overwhelming majority of Arse fans. 🙂

  28. chas says:

    Jimmy Logie and Reg Lewis
    (Bet GN5 was in that crowd)

  29. RockyLives says:

    Hello Redders
    Interesting thought about the club’s monk-like silence regarding transfer speculation.

    One other possible interpretation: maybe in some circumstances it might help when we’re negotiating if the club we’re dealing with thinks we have other irons in fires elsewhere. For example if (say) we really were after Suarez and Liverpool want to play hard ball about the price, the fact that we APPEAR to also be interested in Higuain, Shrek or whoever may be to our advantage.

    There’s also the fact that if we start denying speculation, where does it stop? We seem to be linked with half a dozen new players every other day. Do we need to come out and deny them as well?

    In my old journalist days, one of the ways in which you could get a ‘dodgy’ story into the press was by getting someone involved to deny it. You don’t dare run the story in case it’s untrue and libellous, so you ask them if it’s true. If they say “no” you then run a story saying “Mr X denies allegations about bishop and pole dancer.”

  30. RockyLives says:

    Some nice moves (by us) in that Liverpool final Chas.

  31. Gooner In Exile says:

    RA If I have any criticism for Mr Gazidis it is definitely that he seems to forget that action speaks louder than words, it is also true that in trying to appease the fans he can often be seen to be harming the clubs chances.

    Statements like “we are financially strong” “if we want to spend £30m on a player we can” etc may temporarily lift us the fans but the selling clubs will hold out for better money for their talent.

    Statements like “we are not afraid to spend”, “we may need to revisit wage structure, Arsenes holistic approach and parity ideal isn’t working” tell us that the board want more power over wages etc, well they have, I assume contracts have to be ratified by someone along the line. But then to offer a suggestion that “Arsene has the job as long as he wants” seems at odds to the theory that Arsene is the stumbling block to the Board achieving its ideals.

  32. LB says:

    Just sitting here buffing my halo, buff, buff, buff.

  33. Norfolk Gooner says:

    The problem with denying rumoured interest in one player or another is that when the rumour happens to be true, and Arsenal do not deny it, the cat is let out of the bag.

  34. RockyLives says:

    You in the buff LB?
    Too much information… 🙂

  35. Gooner In Exile says:

  36. neamman says:

    Never saw any of them play but I remember jimmy Logie selling newspapers. It was almost de rigeur for me and my mates to go to Piccadilly circus on match day and buy a paper from him giving him a tip as well..

  37. Gooner In Exile says:

    LB anyway you can explain the green jersey points system whilst buffing the halo?

    I get that there are “sprint friendly” stages but does any stage winner get points or is it purely specified sprints that are set out in advance that count?

  38. Big Raddy says:

    Morning All,

    Wanyama has signed for our feeder club. Is this good news?

  39. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Can’t say it’s the best news I’ve ever heard, Raddy 🙂

    However, I’m always available to jump on someone else’s celebrations 🙂

  40. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Ah, finally, a comment has appeared.

  41. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Can someone confirm, did Gazidis actually ever say we had £70m to spend this summer?

    I thought it was along the lines of …. we can spend a shit load if we want 🙂

  42. Big Raddy says:

    Who knows Micky? We live in inflationary times.

  43. MickyDidIt89 says:

    For anyone who’s interested, here’s my local Surfcam at 7:20 today

    We love hot still days, but there are massive drawbacks 😦

  44. LB says:

    Definitely the latter “shit load”

  45. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Ah, that would explain it. So, he said £70, but then we factor in Hyperinflation 🙂

  46. MickyDidIt89 says:

    My local Surfcam this morning at 7:20 😦

    What can I do today instead of working?

  47. Big Raddy says:


    England’s climate offer rare opportunities to venture down to a sun-kissed beach with the prospect of a day’s lazing, whereas it does offer 300+ days which confine one to a day of endeavour and drudgery.

    Seize the Day

  48. LB says:


    Points are available from every stage and they all go towards winning “The Green points Jersey”.

    It is a way of allowing the sprinters to win something at the end of the Tour because after all it is impossible for them to win Yellow.

    You get a certain amount of points for coming first, second, third etc.
    There are also intermediate sprint points that give mid-race a bit of excitement.

    Peter Sagan is currently in Green.

    Yesterday was interesting in as much that I believe the sprint crown got passed from Cavendish to Kittel. Big stuff in the cycling world.

    I am liking these continuous Suarez rumours.

  49. mickydidit89 says:

    Fair points Raddy, but, I simply cannot “laze”

    Yesterday afternoon, my wife arrived at beach to find her optimum lazing conditions. I stood in my wetsuit, with an unbelievably heavy surfboard, gazing gormlessly into the horizon in the hope a wave may miraculously appear.

    I gazed like a zombie, then came home.

  50. Big Raddy says:

    It appears that Bendtner has turned down the offer from Frankfurt due to their not meeting his wage demands.

    My question is this: Would you half your wages in order to get a first team place at a much smaller club, or just turn up for training and pick up a couple of million pounds a year?

    Cash or glory?

  51. mickydidit89 says:

    In his case, cash, as the prospect of glory is nil.

  52. Big Raddy says:

    I agree. And this is the problem with giving young players big contracts.

    Can you not spend the day lobster hunting?

  53. mickydidit89 says:


    In theory, yes, however there’s an embarrassingly nasty “but”.

    It requires being here tomorrow afternoon to hawl the buggers out, and I won’t be around, as..cough splutter, I’m going to The Eden Project to see a popster called Jesse B (or is it J).

    Well, my Daughter is looking forward to it 😦

  54. Red Arse says:

    Morning Guys,

    My apologies to Chas, Rocky and GIE who responded to my attempt to get some discussion going yesterday, with the old chestnut re transfers.

    My ‘vanishing’ installer/repairer chose just that moment to show up after 3 days of ‘no-show’, and I stood over him while he sorted out the dishwasher with the implied threat that I would squash him if he did not fix the bloody thing.

    He did – I didn’t – and by then it was Din Dins. 🙂

    Actually, the three musketeers (above) are right, it does not seem sensible to expect Arsenal to deny all or any transfer rumours, otherwise some plonker will go thru a whacking great list of player names and matters would only get worse.

    The solution might be to get on and buy someone? 🙂

  55. Gooner In Exile says:

    Thanks LB makes sense. After the Olympics Cavendish said he might return to the track for Brazil. With this young Kittel being a bit special maybe he will do it sooner.

  56. Red Arse says:

    Micky, leave the poor lobsters alone — and Randy don’t encourage him – how would you like a swift, sneaky spear stuck somewhere snugly? 🙂

  57. Gooner In Exile says:

    RA that’s just crazy talk! How easy is it to sign someone now the team are in Asia?

  58. Red Arse says:

    Watching the TdF yesterday I was getting a trifle antsy because they kept referring to ‘GC’, and not explaining what it meant.

    The tactics and jostling for position was fascinating and enjoyable and I am becoming engrossed with the different calculations required for the various sprints, mountain and time trial sections.
    much better than I had imagined.

    N.B. I now know what GC means. 🙂

  59. Red Arse says:

    Good point, GIE!! 🙂

  60. mickydidit89 says:


    Although I’m very happy with the way our squad is developing, and think the present crop will only get better, I do want us to buy someone expensive.

    However, as to what position, well there’s the practical and sensible side to me buried somewhere deep, but the real me wants us to bag an Entertainer. A real bums-off-seats type, and that means a forward.

  61. Red Arse says:

    Me too, Micky!

    Actually, Jovetic and Higuain would do nicely, I think, or a fabulous Brazilian like Neymar — bugger, now I am back in the land of transfer fantasy!! 🙂

  62. Morning all

    Just found a load of Micky’s comments in spam. Sometimes wordpress rejects comments when they have a link in them.

    Norfolk Gooner has lost a few comments but they weren’t in spam so i don’t know what happened to them unless someone else let them out.

    Anyway we have Shard’s captain post for today with a poll 🙂

  63. mickydidit89 says:

    About to fall out with wordpress

  64. mickydidit89 says:

    A Poll

  65. Yes Micky, just for you 😉

    Wow that view looks amazing, I suggest a day on the beach ………

  66. mickydidit89 says:

    It’s a “pancake day”. Pleases Mrs DidIt, but not her Husband or Children. They like waves!
    Hope all good with you, and you get a chance to stop being busy 🙂

  67. New Post ………………………..

  68. Thanks Micky – still cracking the whip here although I have to say the results are quite fabulous 🙂

  69. TT says:

    Hi GIE,

    You asked, “but does any stage winner get points or is it purely specified sprints that are set out in advance that count?”

    It’s a bit of both. The top 15 finishers of every stage (except the team time trial stage, of course) would receive points. However the stages are classified as flat, medium mountain, high mountain, indiv time trial. The flat stages, where one would expect the sprinters to excel are worth more points. For example, 1st place in a flat stage 45 pts vs high mountain 20 pts. The intermediate sprints within each stage are worth the same as a high mountain stage.

    There are also a fair number of flat stages (8 out of 21 this year) that probably only a sprinter specialist would win the points competition.

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