If Arsène goes …… who should replace him?

Let’s cut straight to the chase, and leaving aside all the arguments, regarding whether or not Arsène Wenger should be replaced or not, and beg the question, “if he leaves Arsenal, for whatever reason, who should replace him?”

There is a lot of talk about Mourhino being given the heave ho at Real Madrid this summer, and he is looking for a berth in the Premier League, so we are told.

Now I cannot stand the guy on a personal basis, with his cheap shots, stupid and unpleasant mind games and his general sneeringly dismissive manner. BUT – he is a good manager, possessing a very creditable curriculum vitae!

The subordinate question I would have to ask is “can he work his magic without a huge treasure chest to work with in order to buy marquee players, which has always been his signature method?”

I guess only time will tell, but I would be inclined to give him a shot, simply because it would be a win/win for me. If he succeeds, we would all be thrilled potatoes, and clacking our maracas, if he fails it would be only a short-term thing because he does not tend to stick around.

Then there is Sir Alex Ferguson. We all know how desperate he was to join us 20 odd years ago, and was near suicidal when old Dennis Hilly-Wood told him to sod off and stop wasting our time.
No – I am only pulling your string theory!

What about Pulis? OK, OK, but for those keen to get rid of Arsene, perhaps an Orc team might appeal. No?

I won’t let you choose Benitez, so you can forget him. Fact!!

This isn’t easy, because I do not really know anyone whom I can easily recommend, because like most of you, I do not take much notice of other managers, and have no real knowledge of their ability.

OK then, so what about Capello? Ancelotti, Klopp, Hiddink, Rijkaard or Lowe?

My problem is that I know these managers by reputation only, and I am sure many or even all of them are first class managers, in their own right, but haven’t they all made their names, in part, by having big money available to buy top, top quality players? Now where have I heard that phrase previously?

Now I know there are rumours that Arsenal have between £50 million and £70 million available for transfers, but there is a huge caveat here. First, if we do not clinch a 4th place in the Premiership, and therefore we fail to qualify for the Champions League in the new managers initial ‘break in’ season, we will add another possible £35 million shortfall onto the likely £35 million shortfall this season if, as seems likely, we do not qualify this season.

Well as a self funding, break even football club, the transfer treasure chest would be needed to plug the hole in the profit line.

This is becoming a tad tricky for your correspondent.

There is only one thing for it, and that is to throw this open to the glitterati of the AA blogsite, and ask you to help me with your greater knowledge. Who would you want to manage Arsenal, or do you think Arsène Wenger should soldier on, and just heap scorn and ridicule on a decent man and a great manager?

Don’t be shy. Let’s have your views and your reasons to support your selection.

Written by Red Arse

128 Responses to If Arsène goes …… who should replace him?

  1. Great conversation starter RA. I wouldn’t mind Klopp or laudrup. I think we will qualify for the CL.

  2. GoonerB says:

    Damn, got caught again with the last post before the new post. At work Redders so I will come back later to read properly and comment. Do I need my dictionary?

  3. fanfar says:

    Laudrup of course!

  4. Sarah-Jane Todd says:

    Michael laudrup had success at every club managed,
    Was a brilliant footballer voted best foreign player is a lover of the passing game and makes good business decisions he should succeed Wenger 🙂

  5. heskay says:

    let wenger go and let another man come in e.g david moyes,

  6. dandan says:

    Nice one RA should get some talking, having read most of the posts this week it seems to me there are only two certainties to choose from ie. Tomstone and the mighty spectrum. 🙂

  7. Gooner In Exile says:

    Erm shoestring budget, plays a brand of football coherent with current team ethos and achieves his Chairmans aims with little fuss and a whole heap of dignity….

    And turned down an appointment in Scouseland which adds to his appeal….

    The man I have thought would be Arsenes replacement since the first time I saw one of his teams play in a lower division…..

    Roberto Martinez

  8. Gooner In Exile says:

    DD 😀 Naughty boy, you know they won’t be around until we have suffered defeat at the Bridge…..or if we don’t the next time we suffer a defeat.

  9. Reddawn says:

    If we managed to get back to our old exciting and entertaining style of play, personally I wouldn’t worry too much about silver ware or fourth place, (sorry I told a porky) four place would be important. As far as replacing Arsene, no! I would rather see him continue on as our manager, but if a replacement had to be found, I believe Dennis Bergkamp would be an ideal replacement.

  10. Rasp says:

    Morning all, thanks Redders – a topic certain to get a reaction.

    Whoever eventually takes over, it will be seen by many as a gamble, similar to when we buy a player. Should he have premiership experience? should he be a big name? should he be young and up and coming?

    I agree with the suggestions so far .. Klopp, Laudrup and Martinez would all be worth a shout.

  11. Rasp says:

    …. Not David Moyes or Spectrum 😕

  12. EIE says:

    I’d get TonyPullis in and get shot of all the foreign players.

  13. Dave Highbury says:

    Laudrup and Moyes aren’t even remotely close to Wenger. Go watch the new balance against the last swansea game and relax. If you can’t see the football that’s brewing from that… then you really don’t know good football when you see it.

  14. I think you’re missing the point Dave.

  15. Gabe says:

    we dont have problem wit the managerial post, the main problem we are having is to buy player so that wie can be in the dfirst 4 this season , even if we pick up another manager if the board ddddid not give the manager the power of money , it is going to be worsted than when arsene is the cu z i still believe ihn asene , he have th awand stick , he should go out and buy player and i know we make to be in first 4 even if arsen didnot buy , i think heas a reason for it . it vividly clear to my that the person that is doing he is job will never look it work to go instal

  16. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Hi Redders, great conversation starter.
    If it was up to me, i would let Arsene Wenger decide who his successor would be, only because i trully believe that he has the clubs best interest at heart.

    I believe that man to be Dragan Stojkovic or “pixie’ as they call him. He is doing the same thing Arsene was and is. He has the same values and believes in the development of youth to be crucial to the long term success of any club. As a player he was fantastic, as a coach i believe he is still in Japan at Arsenes’ old club.

    No experience in the big time leagues i hear people say, well neither did Arsene and that seemed to work out alright.

    Redders, may i ask what you think. Should Arsene get a say in who his successor is?

    By the way, i really like what Klopp is doing in Dortmund but to be totally honest, i would have the upmost respect for the man if he turned down every big money offer to succeed with the international kids (Gotze, Reus, Hummells) and realise the dream that he has started over there.

  17. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Some terrible names mentioned there.

    Tony pulis will make us play the long ball game that’s all he knows and did u know he’s a Welshman.
    Martinez lol I’d rather be gay .
    Moyes no thanks not good enough no big club experience.

    There are only two men I’d want to take over they are .

    Jose Mourhino he got the pedigree and he the only manager to win the treble in Italy and the only man to win two EPL with two different clubs.
    I know he can act a div and be arrogant but that’s his way of dealing with the press.

    Another name I’d like to see is Dennis Berkamp he’s doing vey well doing the number 2 job at Ajax,and he’s a hero.
    And he is worth a shot at being Arsenal boss.

    Much love
    Sheep Hagger ™.

  18. GunnerN5 says:

    RA: Nice start to a Saturday morning, I wonder if your post will attract any iron oxide?

    It’s an easy decision for me – defer it for several seasons.

    When the sad day does arrive and AW moves to a consulting role at AFC my belief is that the new manager will come from within the club. Why do I think that? – well we now have an organizational process and a technical system that is deep rooted into the club from the scouting system to the juniors and up to the PL squad – AFC will want to perpetuate this system and promoting somebody from within seems to be the most logical approach. Maybe it could be Steve Bould, with only football responsibilities?

    Failing that it will have to be an individual whose first thought is the technical quality of the game, our supporters will not sit back quietly if we end up with a Mourhino type of personality as a manager.

  19. GunnerN5 says:

    Folks should remember that Denis Bergkamp will not fly so he simply cannot become our mananger.

  20. Mesab says:

    Of course it’d have to be Klopp all the way but the again I’d hate to see Dortmund start losing their status and crumble if he ever leaves,as they’re such an unbelievable side to watch! I really hope they win the champions league!

    Plus, Klopp is the only manager in your list who has never spent big as compared to the rest (Jose, SAF, Rafa, Capello, Ancelotti, Hiddink, Rijkaard and Lowe).
    The biggest signing was Reus from Bayern who they brought back for €17million. The rest are perfect bargains here and there and youth.

  21. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Hi Sheep, which ‘two’ clubs has Jose won the EPL with?

    I dont want Jose anywhere near our club. When i think of Arsenal, i think “CLASS” and that man hasnt got a clue. A man who poked out the eye of an oppositions assistant manager at the time (Tito Vilanova). No thanks. In any case, i believe that Jose is itching for Fergiescums job.

    I like the sound of Dennis Bergkamp, everyone does and should, but he too lacks the big time experience which doesnt bother me personally. What would bother me is that being involved in European competition would mean that Dennis would have to overcome his fear of flying. Lets hope so….

  22. Mesab says:

    ^^^ Sorry Borussia Moch…

  23. GoonerB says:

    Great post Redders. The choice is easy. It should be me….

    All that great tactical knowledge is wasted on a keyboard. I will have Terry Mancini and Rasp on the coaching staff and Peaches can replace the perma-shorts Mr Vic Akers because she has far nicer legs. Oh and Redders you will have Gazidkis job and constantly bamboozle the media…

  24. elkieno says:

    Man I shudder to think who might take over and life in general without the great man at the helm. It wil be like a merry go round with managers, instable. I hope the powers that be have some kind of plan, like always, cos it will get bumpy!!!
    Same with UTD just depends who ready to capitolise. That’s how the league changes over the years, that and money.

  25. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    @ GiE, hope everything works out for your better half and Gorgeous George, well….Hes Gorgeous!! Have you sunk that barrel yet?

    @ Kelsey, happy belated birthday big boy. Ive been away at the grand slam in Melbourne

    @ IrishGunner, if your reading. Happy belated birthday to you too, i remember you celebrating the same day birthday with myself and Thierry giving us a nice present last year. 🙂

  26. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Perfect plop
    He won it he ECL with Porto and Inter Milan and he’s only the 3rd manager ever to do that.
    Regarding Berkamp flying remember there are other modes of transport it’s 2013 .
    Much love
    Sheep xx

  27. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    2008 Mourinho signed a three-year contract with Serie A club Internazionale. Within three months he had won his first Italian honour, the Supercoppa Italiana, and completed the season by winning the Serie A title. In 2009–10 Inter became the first Italian club to win the treble of Serie A, Coppa Italia and the UEFAChampions League, the first time Inter had won the latter competition since 1965. In doing so, Mourinho became the third manager in football history to win the UEFA Champions League with two different teams.

    Come on Jose join us plzzzzzz

  28. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Sheep shit,
    Oh yeah i forgot about skateboards that zoom to Russia in 2 days.

    Oh and you said ‘2 EpL’ titles. Porto is nowhere near Englands top league

  29. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Jose also spent upwards of 200mil to win the treble in Italy with Internazionale.

    That is about 110mil more than we can afford to spend. I want our club to prosper, not be in constant debt!!

  30. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    E stands for European
    Let him spend Wengers savings as Wenger won’t spend !.

  31. GoonerB says:

    Sheep, I am not sure about Mourinho myself for the reasons that others have stated. He will not want his C.V blemished and I feel he will demand that we compete on level terms with Citeh and Chelski for the top players. If he doesn’t get this with us, which is a likely scenario, I feel he could throw his toys out of the pram and create a public P.R disaster between himself and the board.

    His CV certainly stands up to scrutiny but there has always been a part of me that feels he likes to come to a club when the team is geared for success, or has serious financial muscle, and then get out sharpish when he recognises the team is about to decline and needs rebuilding.

    A bit of a conspiracy theory here I know, but I always had a sneeking suspicion that he bled everything he could out of that Inter side but realised that many key players were ageing and that it would go downhill from that point even with him as manager. I thought the public furore he created in Serie A was cleverly crafted by himself to leave his position there untenable. That way it enhances his reputation because he left Inter flying high and the next guy doesn’t get close to what he achieved, but is that because Mourinho is so significantly better or because the team was about to decline regardless?

  32. LB says:

    I am just back from my Saturday morning two hour cycle ride (yes even in this weather) and find that I missed the conversation on cycling.

    In answer to Evonne: why didn’t people try and say that Lance was dopping earlier? They did and he sued them and won. They will now obviously counter sue and win themselves.

    GIE. The stages of the TdF are never the same but if you take the iconic mountain stage of L’Alpe-d’Huez in which the riders start at one point and finish at the top at another, then the person who came first in last year’s TdF would have come 49th ten years ago. Even if you allow for exaggeration you get the idea.

    Oz, 26 is right cycling has made huge steps forward in cleaning itself up. In the past there were one off tests which the likes of Armstrong could get round, now each rider has a Blood Passport and this shows the tell tale signs of doping.

    26. I didn’t realise how much you know about this sport. BTW, if you don’t know Condor Cycles in Greys in Road, you should, I ride a Condor Leggero. Pop in when you have a time to kill in between meetings with Counsel which no doubt take place near by 😉

    As for the question of who should replace Wenger.

    I have my fingers in my ears and I am going lalalalalala.

  33. GoonerB says:

    By the way, I don’t see many backers for my 11.39 suggestion on Wengers succesor. I am starting to seriously question the knowledge of all you guys.

  34. GoonerB says:

    Don’t worry LB. As RA intimated he is not suggesting we should replace Wenger but is just asking who people feel could do it hypothetically. He is a cheeky devil you know and loves to create a blogging frenzy. The words hornets nest and stick come to mind.

  35. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Gooner B @ 12.04pm, well said. I feel he is doing the same now in Madrid. 18 points behind La Liga leaders and we can already hear the toys hitting the ground.

  36. david lawrence says:

    For me I’ll say we stick to atsene wenger but worst case scenario I’ll give it to jurgen klopp because he’s tactically good and he does’nt really need a treasure chest just take a look at what he’ doing at dortmond and I reckon that speaks for him.

  37. He started going a bit downhill at the chavs

  38. Gooner In Exile says:

    The Mourinho effect seems to last 2-3 seasons maximum…

  39. Shard says:

    Hmmm..Successors to Arsene Wenger.. No way Jose as far as I’m concerned. That man would ruin everything that Arsenal FC has created over the past decade, and destroy the club values with it. Mourinho doesn’t care about the club he manages. He only cares about himself. I fully agree with GoonerB about his Inter days. Rafa Benitez got all the blame for Inter’s failings, but he was carrying Mourinho’s mess when he got there and that contributed to it. Mourinho’s EPL triumphs weren’t built just on money, they were also built on the back of Ranieri’s side. Mourinho is best at managing his own career. not the clubs he’s at. And definitely wrecks the long term future of the club for short term personal gain. Losing all of that is not worth the trophies that he MIGHT bring.

    As to who could succeed Arsene Wenger. I think because times have changed since Wenger took over, it will have to be someone who has experience of managing in Europe. That’s rules out ‘Piksi’ for me. I did think Klopp, even before Dortmund became champions a couple of years ago. Villas Boas was another (despite him being a Mourinho protege), but since he’s joined our lovely neighbours, he’s out.
    Martinez is a fair shout, as is Laudrup. I’m surprised no one’s mentioned Guardiola, though I’ve always thought he’s angling for the ManU job, (and Mourinho for ManCity) Other names I can think of include Donadoni or Simeone

    But, I think after Arsene, it might be best to go for a manager who’s only slightly younger than Wenger. Maybe someone like Pellegrini, or Bielsa. That’s because I think that though continuing our philosophy is very important (and those two are similar in philosophy), Wenger’s legacy will sit very heavy on the shoulders of whoever follows. Maybe it’s best to have an experienced coach take that burden for a few years, while allowing us to get over Wenger’s loss, and then move towards a younger coach for the longer term.

  40. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    2-3 seasons, a bucket load of money, and a whole load of dirrty laundry. No thanks. Not only that, if he is successful and moves on he likes to stick with what he knows, and that means breaking up his old teams at the detriment of his old club. Deco from Porto to Chelski, and then he tried to break up that team to suit himself. NO THANKS

  41. Kenneth says:

    Wenger did not fall from the sky. There are lots of very good managers out there if Wenger decides to go or gets fired. The board only has to focus and find the right man for the job if Wenger is to be replaced

  42. Shard says:

    Kenneth’s comment about Wenger not falling from the sky just reminded me about this interview with Arsene. I don’t know how many here have already heard it, but it is very interesting to hear him talk about his early days, especially his time in Japan. Basically, stuff that has shaped him into the man he is now. As an aside, though I don’t think he mentions it here, but the reason he went to Japan was partly due to his disillusionment with match fixing in the French league.


    It’s 30mins long, but well worth listening to.

  43. Red Arse says:

    Thanks for the responses guys. 🙂

    Not too good today but I hope to be around later.

    You are quite right, GoonerB, my own preference is to vote for ……………….. Arsene.

    The thought of him leaving us, which will eventually happen, because time and tide waits for no man, is like a cold bucket of water in the face.

    For those of you who have lost parents, you will know that it is not just the sense of bereavement that is shattering, it is also the sense of shock that the family environment that long cocooned you, looked after you as a child, and cared for you when all was not well, has suddenly gone ………… and not just for a short time, but forever.

    I believe that, for many, in the context of our footballing family, the effect will be similarly traumatic when Arsene goes too, and in a similar way we will all wish we had better shown him how much we admired and appreciated what he has done for us and for our wonderful club, which is also part of our extended family.

    My fear is that the unrelenting abuse and vitriolic hatred showered on him, by lesser men, has taken its toll, and he will, perhaps, retire at the end of his current contract.

    I do not wish to be mawkishly sentimental, but it is worthwhile to sit up and smell the coffee.

    An era is coming to an inevitable end, be it in one year or four, and I fear that unless Le Proff’s successor is carefully chosen, we may, as a club, and as fans, experience a long cold footballing winter, and the hate mongers may come to regret their behaviour.


  44. Simon says:

    Wenger’s replacement?

    Me! I took Bristol City to Europa League glory on Football Manager! How hard can it be!?

    In all seriousness, I think Wenger will only leave of his own accord, which won’t be any time soon.

    Also I don’t think that we could afford the likes of mourinho etc, I’d rather see Moyes/Martinez/Laudrup

  45. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Check these names out what about Klinsmann

    sort by: fav/name
    Pep Guardiola 8 14 9 12
    Jose Mourinho 14 16 18 16
    Martin ONeill 16 16 20 20
    Remi Garde 20 14 12 14
    David Moyes 10 25 14 14
    Laurent Blanc 25 16 9 10
    Marco Van Basten 25 25 25
    Steve Bould 25 10 10 10
    Michael Laudrup 12 25 12 28
    Alan Pardew 33
    Andre Vilas-Boas 33 25
    Brendan Rodgers 20 25 33 28
    Carlo Ancelotti 33 25 25 33
    Co Adriaanse 33 33 33
    Dennis Bergkamp 14 20 33 33
    Didier Deschamps 20 25 18 33
    Dragan Stojkovic 20 25 22 33
    Frank Rijkaard 33 25 25 33
    Guus Hiddink 16 16 25 33
    Guy Lacombe 33 33
    Jacques Santini 33 33
    Joachim Low 33 33 22 33
    Jurgen Klinsman 33 33 25 33
    Jurgen Klopp 16 25 18 33
    Paul Le Guen 25 33
    Philippe Troussier 33 33
    Rafael Benitez 33 33 33
    Roberto Martinez 25 33
    Thierry Henry 28 33 25 33
    Fabio Capello 33 25 40 33
    Louis Van Gaal 40 25 25
    Paul Lambert 40 25
    Boro Primorac 25 25 50 33
    Harry Redknapp 33 50 25
    Liam Brady 33 50 50 33
    Manuel Pelligrini 20 50 22 33
    Marcelo Lippi 33 40 50 33
    Phil Scolari 50 50 50
    Ralf Rangnick 20 50 33
    Roy Hodgson 50 50
    David Platt 66 66
    Dick Advocaat 50 66 50
    Martin Jol 66 66
    Owen Coyle 66 66 33 33
    Roberto Mancini 66 66
    Sven Goran Eriksson 66 66 66
    David OLeary 80 80 80
    Gerard Houllier 80 80
    Jean Tigana 80 40 66 33
    Pat Rice 80 50
    Steve McClaren 80 80
    George Graham 80 100 100
    Glen Hoddle 100 66 100 33
    Ruud Gullitt 80 100 100
    Alan Curbishley 80 100 125
    Raymond Domenech 80 100 125 50
    Sam Allardyce 100 125
    Tony Adams 66 100 125 100
    Giovanni Trapattoni 100 100

  46. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Few names there to choose from the numbers are the odds

  47. Bryan says:

    I would like to see the whole Arsenal board replaced instead & then see what Wenger could do with out having his hands tied.

    If I was choosing a new manager, I like what Laudrup is doing & I would take Mourinho although Im not sure he’s as good as some think because he always spends money beyond belief, I also like Ancellotti, I thought he got that boring Chelsea outfit to play the best football out of all their managers, scoring the most goals in a season in premier history.

    I love Bergkamp but sometimes believe having legends manage your teams can go pear shaped & tarnish their image.

    Klop has built an absolutely fantastic side & would be a good choice too.

    If we do not sign any players in this window, I do believe it is time for change at end of season because I do not believe we will get a CL place, hope I’m wrong.
    It is so obvious we need some new players to give the whole club a lift it really needs

  48. oz gunner says:

    I took care of this problem last year whilst in the lab at school.

    It wasn’t hard to clone him but he sure does make one ugly baby!

    On a serious note, Klopp!!! Love his style of play and he implements a great pressing game which I’d love to see used at Arsenal. If he wants to bring some players with him…even better!

    @ LB
    I’m not questioning whether or not the sport is clean. It should have been cleaned up long ago and it’s good to see positive steps being made. I was questioning the image of the sport now. Cycling fans love watching the TDF but because of the events that have taken place over the last few years, the credibility of the sport has taken a nose dive. John Smith the sports fan may switch over because he thinks the sport is corupt. Timmy jacobs may not be able to live his dreams of becoming a cyclist because his mum doesn’t want him being involved in it anymore. Yes it’s cleaning up it’s act but it’d be naive to say the sport is appealing to the public now.

  49. RockyLives says:

    Cheeky one Redders 🙂

    If AW rides off into the sunset, we need someone who can reflect Arsenal values, has a history of success and, maybe, can improve on some of AW’s weaker areas like defence.

    In other words – bring back Gorgeous George!

    (Or keep the seat vacant until George Exile is ready to take the helm 🙂 )

  50. RockyLives says:

    On cycling…

    I briefly thought the sport was worth watching some years back (particularly the TDF) but I wouldn’t go near it with a barge pole now. It may be unfair on current performers if they really are clean now, but the whole sport seems to have been so steeped in cheating for so long that I assume people have just found better ways of not being detected.

    It’s as boring to me as F1.

  51. Red Arse says:

    Hi Rocky, 🙂

    I have pinched an interview given by Patrick Viera which tells of his relationship and admiration of Arsene, and also throws some interesting light on the comparisons between the Invincibles and our current team.

    In the context of today’s Post, I believe he is voting for Arsene too. 🙂

    Viera said — “I believe Arsenal, on a good day when they have all their players fit and in form, can beat anyone,’ he said. ‘Even the very best teams in the world.

    ‘OK, right now they lack the consistency to win the Premier League title. But they have good players, very good players.

    ‘And if you look at Arsenal in the last few years then I think they have played even better football than we (the Invincibles) did in 2003-04.
    ‘For me they are definitely better to watch as a team but we were stronger, had physical presence and more experience.

    ‘In terms of quality, though, they have a lot of quality there. Enough quality to win something.’

    Vieira won three league titles and four FA Cups under Wenger at Arsenal and is unequivocal in his support for his fellow Frenchman.

    He added: “I spent nine years with Arsene and I really enjoyed my time at Arsenal. What I loved about him was that he made me understand the mistakes I made.

    ‘He made me grow up, as a player and person. So Arsenal is where I changed from a boy into a man.
    That’s Arsene — he is so close with his players and that is good.
    ‘For me he was the best manager of all. It’s true that from the age of 20 to 29 I played my best football.’

    Wenger has come in for criticism this season from fans who have become impatient with the club’s trophy drought.
    But Vieira believes that Wenger is the right man to bring success back to the Emirates.

    He added: ‘The unique situation with Arsenal is that you have to judge what Arsene has done for them in the last 17 years.
    ‘It is amazing. He has totally transformed the club over the last 17 years but the only way to keep the fans happy is to win silverware.
    ‘Arsene will deal with that, though. I’m very confident of that.’

    [Viera has highlighted my own view that skill has to be more precisely linked with muscular athleticism — I have been saying that for 3 years – go look!] 🙂

  52. GoonerB says:

    RA, your earlier comment about time waiting for no man is very true. There will come a time when AW will need to be replaced regardless. I get the feeling that you are roughly in the same mind-frame as myself, that being that AW is with us for a few more years yet and within that period he cements his legacy by building his final and successful team that brings in the silverware. I still feel this is very feasible and so hope that the inevitable decision on his successor is still some way off.

    If I was to asess it now the 2 that we could be more certain of as being able to do it would be Klopp and for me Ancelotti is also a good shout. There are others I like that would be more risky in Laudrup, Martinez, the Pixie fellow and Bergkamp. I would like to see Laudrup have more time to develop as a manager and maybe at a slightly bigger team for a while. Martinez also hasn’t yet managed a big club with big players, so could he do it? I feel he should move up a level from Wigan to showcase his skills more. The jump from Wigan to Arsenal is too big for my liking. The pixie chap, as some rightly say, hasn’t managed in Europe, and as much as I love Dennis the number 2 role at Ajax doesn’t feel like the right platform to the number 1 role at Arsenal. He also would need to be the number 1 at another club to show what he can do.

    By the way did anyone see the comments of Vieira where he indicated that he feels this Arsenal team is shaping up nicely and he feels is as talented as the invincible’s. He feels the team will mature to gain the consistency it currently lacks to win silverware and that Arsene Wenger is the man to lead Arsenal forwards. I would love to have seen footage of that just to see if Terry Mancini was behind him with a gun to his head….I am starting to warm to Vieira’s feelings on this and obviously sincerely hope he is right.

  53. evonne says:

    GM – thank you, just making sure before Cesc is moved to the left and Theo goes in the middle

    LB – I have heard that he stands to lose $75m, good, I hope that cripples him financially

    RA – maverick of a post, managed to keep everyone happy. Roberto Martinez perhaps, but too early to tell. But we all want a young manager, interesting

  54. GoonerB says:

    RA you got in just before me on the Vieira thing. Some spooky psychic connections going on between us….

  55. RockyLives says:

    Thanks for posting the Paddy interview Redders – I hadn’t seen it.

    Well said PV4!

  56. RockyLives says:

    Yep, I’ve just checked back through the last three years of AA Posts and comments and it’s true – you have been consistent in asking for more physicality to accompany our skill 🙂

    Incidentally, what about about Paddy a possible futur manager. At Citeh he’s learning how a big club functions and runs?

  57. goonerjake says:


    Remi Garde….Good shout sir.
    I was going to say DB10 in a few more years, maybe a couple of them at arsenal working along side wenger.
    However is it a manager we should be thinking of next? Or is it a Coach working under a Football Director such as Wenger?

  58. Red Arse says:


    Just off for a while, but I thought I would give you a quick response first.

    We do seem to be singing from the same song sheet regarding Arsene.

    I know it probably sounds silly, but because I hope he grasps the nettle of management changes, especially regarding transfers, communication bloopers and relaxing his apparent iron control over so many issues, and also ensures he delegates more, especially the defensive coaching, I cannot even begin to think of anyone else replacing him when he decides to go.

    That psychic thing — nothing to do with reading my comment first, then?

    Just kidding!! It’s only Rocky that does that, of course! 😀

  59. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    A question for all on AA.

    Should Arsene have a say on who his successor is?

  60. Red Arse says:


    I would have loved seeing Patrick brought back to help coach at Arsenal.

    I seem to remember that was spoken about as a possibility, at the time, but as usual, if true, we were probably blown out of the water in terms of salary etc.

    He is also one of their ‘ambassadors’ now, too, so it won’t happen. 😦

    [As an aside, there have been some harrowing pictures of some of the thousands of passengers sleeping rough at Heathrow because of the disruption, so I am pleased you avoided that. 🙂 ]

  61. Red Arse says:

    Hi Prince,

    In a nutshell, YES, Arsene will have some input/advice as to his successor, but the final decision will be left to the owner/BoD.

    Much the same will happen at Old Trafford, when SAF goes.

  62. jnyc says:

    I dont want to lose Arsene, but ive been saying Klopp for years now. I like the style of play, the way he seems to develop players in the organization, and i like his style as a person in interviews and from what i see on the pitch. —
    great conversation starter RA. And i also really fear the possibility of losing the CL money to the spuds. And they will spend it to improve. We had better get our act together and make a serious push.

  63. evonne says:

    ppp – Happy Bithrday son!!

  64. Gooner In Exile says:

    Oz sorry to say you have got that experiment wrong.

    Where is the stuck zipper on the sleeping bag coat?

  65. evonne says:

    Rasp – I think we could do with a votting widget 🙂 Some hot candidates have emerged today

  66. kelsey says:

    Well we all knew the wage structure at the club was wrong and now Walcott a player yet to prove himself as a consistently good player is our highest earner, and that will open up a can of worms. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but if we had kept RVP no one can argue the case that we wouldn’t be a far stronger attacking force and would have had a far better chance of CL revenue next season,whilst at the moment I feel we will not get fourth.The club are besotted with money and it could cost us in revenue what we got for RVP and to rub salt into the wound make a not over convincing United champions again.

  67. Gooner In Exile says:

  68. Prince-Purrfect-Poldi says:

    Thank you Evonne 🙂

  69. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Hi prince
    In a nutshell no he should have no say,he’s got no dam given right to choose
    About time we won something he should concentrate on that not on his successor.

    Much love
    Sheep Hagger ™

  70. Gooner In Exile says:

    Kelsey if we had kept an unhappy player are you sure we wouldn’t be in the same position, and then we could have been without £26m in the bank and CL money.

    Think Theo numbers could be exaggerated, anything from £85k-£100k has been mentioned. I think the main stumbling block was length of contract. The bigger annoyance that we have to pay £3m signing fee! But then I guess that’s the power of players after Bosman reading its head again.

    Anyway my guess is Jack will have signed a ramped deal and will be biggest earned within couple of years.

    And the even crazier thing is QPR have just signed Remy on allegedly £70k a week. Although a goal a game will pay for it if they stay in the PL.

  71. kelsey says:


    neither of us can actually prove if RVP was unhappy or if was greed or the club in his eyes lacked ambition,but the fact is that theo is at present our top earner

  72. Red Arse says:

    Hi Kelsey, 🙂

    I read an interesting article, in the Times, on Theo and Arsenal’s negotiations in the summer.

    According to the journalist, Arsene got frustrated with Walcott’s refusal to accept the deal offered to him, and in the final few days of August decided to sell him.

    Walcott refused to go. Arsenal could do nothing, and Walcott’s negotiating position got stronger by the week, until he got a great deal this week.

    Apparently he is the joint top earner on £90K per week, the same as Arshavin, who also refuses to leave.

    The balance of power is now even more with the players.

    Of course, with a 3 1/2 year contract, this will all start again next year, probably with the same result.

    All the others players (or their agents) will have learned from this, and will either do an RvP and engineer a move, or a massive goolie squeezing deal like Walcott’s.

  73. GunnerN5 says:

    You can feel how much Arsene cares for his players.


    You want Diaby to have career he deserves’

    By Rob Kelly

    Arsène Wenger wants Abou Diaby to enjoy the career that a player of his calibre deserves.

    The 26-year-old has struggled for full fitness ever since he sustained a serious ankle injury at Sunderland in the final game of the 2005/06 season.

    Diaby returned to first-team action against Manchester City last week after three months out with a thigh strain, and Wenger hopes he is back for the long term.

    “It is a big period for him – he is conscious of that,” the manager said. “He does everything, but you do not want to put any pressure on him. Because he has enough, he puts himself under so much pressure.

    “He is a very conscientious guy. You should see how he works, how he is focused every day, because when a guy suffers as much as he did he becomes very professional, very rigorous.

    “You have some guys who can drink five beers, come to training, and play and go home and nothing happens to them. And you have other guys who have to look after everything. They become very professional very early in life. And he has always been very conscientious.

    “Diaby has a very serious life, he doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke, doesn’t go out, and is very conscientious in training. So you always feel sorry for him, so you always touch wood it will go well for him. Honestly, what he has gone through is unbelievable.”

    Wenger believes that when he is at his best, Diaby gives the Arsenal midfield a whole new dimension.

    “He can defend, he can attack, he is strong in the challenge,” he said. “He can dribble, he can pass players. He is very quick in the transition. He can quickly cross the pitch when you win the ball. And he is good in the air and he is a fighter with great stamina.

    “If you love football and you see a player like Abou, you want him to have the career he deserves, especially when he has the attitude that he has. You have to have patience. Because what did he do wrong? Nothing. You have to give him a chance.”

  74. Red Arse says:

    I read that interview in the Times, GN5, and I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment! 🙂

    I happened to scroll through AFC a while ago to see what people meant by “wanting their Arsenal back”.

    You and/or Dandan may remember this.

    At the time Arsenal were in the old First Division, when In 1959/60 we were drawn against 2nd Division Rotherham in the FA cup.

    The manager was George Swindin, who was later replaced by a really hopeless Billy Wright, ex-Wolverhampton and England.

    The first game was drawn 2:2, after we had gone 0:2 up with not a lot of time left.

    In the replay at Highbury, the game finished 1-1. The third and decisive game (the rules were different in those days), was played at Sheefield Wednesday’s Hillsborough, and Arsenal lost 2:0.

    The Arsenal team were;
    Jim Standen
    Len Wills
    Jimmy Magill
    John Snedden
    John Barnwell
    Tommy Docherty
    Danny Clapton
    Len Julians
    Mel Charles – brother of the more famous John!
    Jimmy Bloomfield
    Jackie Henderson

    After reading that, last Wednesday, we spanked Swansea in the FA Cup 3rd round replay, with Jack’s fantastic goal.

    Well, I would rather pass, if that 1959/60 FA Cup result was having ‘our Arsenal back’.

    I think we also finished 13th in the League (?).

    Over to you!! 🙂

  75. Adrian says:

    Sturridge looking to be a great buy for liverpool, he and Suarez really seem to have clicked. He was just exactly what liverpool were crying out for the past 6 months or so, a goal poacher. Wouldn’t exactly write out Liverpool in the contest for 4th.. which sadly I have a feeling we might not get this season.

  76. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Before my time I was -4

  77. JM says:

    Same as Big Raddy @ January 19, 2013 at 1:09 pm.

    Remi Garde.

    Arsene did recommend him to the club as a player then. Garde has also been linked previously with the club for the Director of football position.

    He worked as director of the Centre Tola Vologe (training center and club headquarters of Olympique Lyonnais), running the academy. He was a coach at Lyonnais (assisting Paul Le Guen), promoted to assistant manager (assisting Gerald Houllier), and finally becoming manager in 2011. He stepped up with a brief to slash the budget, mainly by shifting non-performing “stars” and promoting youth (their 1st team squad has an average age of 24.7 years old).

    Garde won the Coupe de France in his 1st season with Lyonnais. The team is currently battling PSG for the Ligue 1 title this season.

    Coincidentally, Garde’s current coaching contract with Lyonnais expires on 30 June 2014, similar to Arsene’s. (Should they both not renew). Arsene could yet recommend Remi Garde to the club again … this time as the new manager.

  78. LB says:


    Would you be kind enough to give me your thoughts on this:

    The Theo wages are estimated to be between 85 and 100 the fact that this new 85 number has been mentioned gives me the impression that it is nearer this than the higher number.

    You mention above that “The bigger annoyance that we have to pay £3m signing fee!”

    Is it possible that Arsenal used this to keep the weekly wage down and by doing so would help to keep some kind of parity with the rest of the players?

    Just a thought, obviously no first hand knowledge of the deal.

  79. GunnerN5 says:

    RA: I remember those day’s only too well, they were among the worst times to be an Arsenal supporter, in 16 seasons the highest we finished was 3rd and we won zero trophies.

    I specifically recollect when we signed Tommy Docherty from Preston North End, he was considered one of the best British players and my family were delighted with his signing. I saw him score a goal from about 15′ inside the half, just beyond the players tunnel, what a wallop that was.

  80. GunnerN5 says:


    That’s entirely possible as they also gave TH14 a huge signing bonus on this final contract.

  81. GunnerN5 says:


    I should have also said – “but it’s all speculation as the details of Theo’s contract have not been released by Arsenal”.

  82. Red Arse says:

    GN5, (Not sure what happened to my reply, so I will repeat it) 🙂

    I had heard the name of Tommy Docherty, as a manager reputed to have a dry sense of humour with one liners.

    Some of the dissatisfied Arsenal fans should research Arsenal’s history first, or listen to you and DD, before complaining.

  83. slime says:

    Where’s this Villa team come from!? Ripping West Brom apart at the moment. Been impressed with Delph these last few weeks. Starting to look a good player.

    As for next manager, I would like to see De Boer and Bergkamp brought over from Ajax. I always wanted us to sign the De Boers when we were linked with them but it never quite happened. The Bergkamp connection would ensure they had time to settle and were given a chance. Ajax isn’t a bad place to get a managers education.

  84. Red Arse says:

    With all this snow and disruption over the last couple of days, I took especial notice of the Police/AA warning on their community notice board.


    This is important advice to anyone travelling in icy conditions!

    You should take the following items with you when travelling.

    A shovel,
    Blankets or sleeping bag,
    Extra clothing including a scarf, hat and gloves.
    A 24 hour supply of food and drink,
    A de-icer,
    A bag of rock salt,
    A torch and spare batteries.
    Safety triangle,
    A tow rope,
    A petrol can,
    A First Aid kit
    A set of jump leads.

    scroll down

    a bit further

    I looked a right prat on the bus this morning!!

  85. dandan says:

    RA that was the year I left school having sat my GCE’s and began to earn enough money to get the train to Liverpool St to watch the Arsenal every week.
    Jim Standen was a fine cricketer as well as playing for us, Len Juliens came from Leyton Orient I think and Tommy Doc. became a manager finishing up with Man Utd from where he was sacked for having an affair with the Physio’s wife although I believe they are still together. The joke at the time was what does the clock at Old Trafford say? answer ” Dick Doc”
    He has in the last twenty years made his living from after dinner speaking.

  86. dandan says:

    LOL Just checked wickipedia, it would seem my memory is still good, 🙂

  87. GunnerN5 says:


    This may sound strange given the expectations piled on the club today, but back in the day even though the teams were so poor I never missed a game and was thrilled with a simple victory.
    The seasons of 1969/70 and 1970/71 were unbelievable 3 trophies in 2 seasons – but we won nothing else for the following 7 seasons.

    So we won 3 trophies in 26 seasons, I wonder what the blogs would have been like in those days – oh yea I forgot – computers were still to be invented and we had to rely on the back pages for our “up to date information”.

  88. evonne says:

    always professional 🙂

  89. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    GIE I’m with him I is nhs nurse we work hard
    We try ouR best
    Much love

  90. ces1ne says:

    A bit off topic, but I missed all the hype & hoopla yesterday after Theo finally signed, so here is my take on it….
    —-Theo is always going to be a streaky player, 10 good matches/3-4 ineffectual matches & I’m ok with that, even at that salary bc the market & money/value has changed. The biggest thing is that Wenger has to notice when Theo is having an off match (it’s obvious in the 1st 20 mins) & stop being hesitant with substitutions. Can’t be afraid to yank some of these guys out when not playing well.
    —-For the last 6-7 years Wengers built around younger foreign players (Cesc/robin/nasri/Hleb/etc) & most of the seasons we were so close, yet so far. Here we are today & all of those players left for 1 reason or another (but mo$tly 1 rea$on). In the last few months we have signed all of our younger British talent, all of them being very solid to exceptional talents.
    With Theo signing da ting, the core is young and British….which is the complete opposite of the past squads that couldn’t cross that final hurdle. Hopefully this core shows the testicular fortitude that the previous squads lacked in the tough times. Not going to happen this season, but next season is when I think/hope we start to see a bit of a change. —Obviously a few signings & sales would be nice, whether its now or summer but I’m feeling pretty good about this squad & it’s future for the 1st time in a while.

  91. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    Excellent post, RA.

    Why not give these beauties a try? They can’t be as shite as their records suggest….

    Steve Bruce
    Mark Hughes
    Roy Keane
    (what is it with ex mancs struggling to emulate His Masters Voice?)
    Alex McLeish
    Fat Sam Allardyce
    Phil Brown and Brian Horton (I’ve heard that, unbelievably, they’re available at good rates)

    I’m so pleased Tony Adams’ odds have gone out from 66-1 but it’s worrying they’ve closed from 125 to 100.

    I do still like the idea of Stevie Bould being promoted from within, but without knowing much about him, I’d have to go for Klopp of the managers from abroad.

  92. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    testicular fortitude 🙂

  93. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    R we going to beat Chelsea tomorrow
    Hit me

  94. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Arthur tham all shit

  95. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    Aye, sheepy, that they are.

    Interesting that 5-3 to us isn’t quoted. I wonder if anyone had it last year?

  96. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    I bet Demba baa scores against us tomorrow

  97. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Can’t wait for new post in morning

  98. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    How about 3-2 to us 28-1?

  99. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    Just watched this again (for the three thousandth time).
    Thought I’d share. 🙂

  100. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Old news gonad son

  101. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    haha, so far I’ve been called
    arthur mullard’s LG
    A.M’s L.G
    gonad son
    and my personal favourite
    monster gonad.

    All much better than that chap from Ponders End.

  102. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    This has to be more to your taste, sheepy, a bit of ovine porn.

  103. The font says:

    Pork pie in the eye Geordie coming to arsenal

  104. slime says:

    Liking this Isco kid at Malaga. Has quick feet and can score from midfield. Only 20 too. That Aspas at Celta Vigo looks decent too and is only £8.3m. Has 8 goals in a team that is struggling, though he is about 25 and a bit lightweight.

  105. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    They not my sheep all mine are females

  106. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    I get called many names I dont care

  107. RockyLives says:

    More porn for Sheep 🙂

  108. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    I don’t need to film my sheep
    I’m all there ba

  109. Bayonne Jean says:

    If Wenger were to have a say in his successor, then the odds on Dragan Stojkovic would improve immeasurably. AW himself has already mentioned him as a possibility.
    I would fancy Klopp, for all the reasons cited previously. Plus, he looks like an ax murderer, so I suspect he’d be able to periodically make an impression on his side when they were not playing up to their potential with a quick glance.

  110. Sheep Hagger ™ says:


  111. oz gunner says:

    @ Jean

    haha true he does look like he could pick up a single mother at a grocery store, marry her, and then take care of the entire family.

    @ Slim

    I too would love to see him come to Arsenal. After winning best young player in the world I fear he will cost a pretty penny like Hazard did though

  112. Adrian says:

    Why didn’t we get Isco along with Cazorla when Malaga was having financial issues? 😦

  113. oz gunner says:

    because Arsene doesn’t like the thong song!

  114. kelsey says:

    I am sorry I didn’t answer the question you posed RA.

    There are a number of scenarios.Most believe that Wenger will fulfill his existing contract regardless where we finish this season and the thought of him being sacked if we have a very poor season, are remote regardless of what the media might say,as he has lived with media pressure since 2005.
    I wouldn’t second guess who will eventually replace him and even allowing for the hopeful FFP rule being a help any new manager would want to know the funds available if and I repeat if the squad needs bolstering with quality signings and a consideration would also be taken if the team still plays wengerball or not.
    The change could be dramatic or most probably Wenger will hopefully leave a basis and nucleous of a team that will eventually be capable of winning a trophy.

    Going back to the wage structure, i also believed that of the present squad Arshavin was the highest paid player and where is he these days.by making Theo the highest paid based on still that he will improve all aspects of his game is to an extent a gamble and that in itself makes a mockery of the suggestion made by Gazidas that the wage structure will be changed or modified whilst we are still carrying a number of players who are either out on loan or just making up numbers,yet still eating away at the weekly wage.

  115. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    Roll out the barrel..

  116. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

  117. Gooner In Exile says:

    LB I would think it is a distinct possibility that we would use the signing on fee as a way of holding the wages low. I also wonder whether it saves us money as it may well be out of the scope of PAYE/NI (over to RA for clarification).

    Seem to remember TV5 got £5m for his fee, so it may also be set at £1m a year of contract.

    Apparently Ramseys new deal had no salary increase.

    All this stuff is pure speculation of course unless Arsenal are feeding the media information.

  118. Big Raddy says:

    Genius. Mrs. Raddy loves the Marx Bros clips as well.

    Thanks Mullard

  119. Big Raddy says:

    Lucky socks on. Nothing can go wrong

  120. evonne says:

    Monster Gonad @9:05 – I cannot believe you left out GiE’s favourite manager! I’m surprised GiE didn’t call his son Tony 🙂

    No Raddy, nothing at all. Whoops, it is snowing heavily in London, I hope that shithole the Bridge can cope with the weather

  121. Morning all 🙂

  122. evonne says:

    thank you GM

  123. It;s snowing here evonne. I hope the games are on.

  124. evonne says:

    same here GM, very heavy 😦 I hope the game is on, Chavs are going through a bad patch, let’s hope it lasts

  125. Morning all from snowy Hertfordshire …………

    New Post ………………

  126. Sterling says:

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