Arsenal – will it get better?

Well here we are mulling over the worst defeat in our history, losing to 2nd division Bradford was not the sort of record we were looking to create.

It was the first game that I have not been able to watch in over 10 years so I listened to the audio commentary on Arsenal player. To be frank their commentary was far superior to what we are served up on television and it gave me a clear understanding of what was happening at field level.

You would think that after following Arsenal for the past 66 seasons that I would be really upset about us losing out on what was, in all likelihood, our most winnable trophy this season – but I’m not the least bit upset. Over the years, I’ve observed so many poor games that one more could not possibly create any more furrows in my brow, they just seem to get deeper and more pronounced when I think about Arsenal’s performances.

The simple realisation is that overall we are a poor team, our defensive play has been more than acceptable giving up only 6 goals in our past 7 games for .9 per game which is also our premier league average, but our offence has sputtered over the same period scoring only 7 goals for 1.0 per game vs. our PL average of 1.7 per game.

A defeat of this type, will of course, bring out the very worst in our “supporter’s” who will now be baying for Arsene’s head and the scalps of certain players.

The media will have a field day with this result and will have it “bronzed” for future use, bringing it out at every possible opportunity.

I feel that as a supporter group we need to stand resolute in our support for our manager and team, which does not exclude us from being critical, but the club must now realise that the day of reckoning is nigh and we need to make urgent changes to get us back to the high levels of performance that we have been spoilt with and have become accustomed to.

It is more than apparent that we are being let down by our performance’s but what is not clear are the reason/s behind our loss of form/ability/technique.

The questions are ongoing –

Is it the manager’s fault?

Is it because we won’t spend our transfer kitty?

Why do we lose our best players?

Why do we seem give away easy goals?

What has happened to our passing fluidity?

Why can’t we put away our chances?

Are we using the right formation?

Why are we putting players in the wrong position?

Why are players not fulfilling their potential?

We supporters are blessed with infallible hindsight and, after the fact, can solve all of AFC’s problems, I just hope that our club can find the foresight and vision that will resolve our problems and ease our pain.

We have a window of opportunity with the January transfer period and the club need to have completed their homework and be ready to pounce on some exciting new talent to put us on the road to recovery. One or two high quality players in the right positions would make a big difference.

You will have noticed that I didn’t write about the game or criticize the manager or our players, the reason for that is I believe that they are performing at the very best of their ability – but it’s simply not good enough – is it?

Changes are needed and the changes need to be well planned and executed.

I once read that –

You can have change without improvement – but –

You cannot have improvement without change.

My vote is for the latter as we have dwelled for far too long on the former.

Will it get better – well of course it will – we have just hit our all time low – so it can only get better – right?

Keep the faith.

A disheartened but not broken –


168 Responses to Arsenal – will it get better?

  1. Red Arse says:

    An excellent and pithy Post, GN5. 🙂

    This is a different style of Post than we normally get from you, and I was trying to work out which of the top writers it was from, as I read it.

    Your specialist statistical based Posts are interesting in themselves, but today’s has put you right up there with the best!

    Thank you! 🙂

  2. kelsey says:

    Gunner N5

    here are my honest opinions.

    Is it the manager’s fault? Partially

    Is it because we won’t spend our transfer kitty? If we really knew what it was,it would be easier to answer

    Why do we lose our best players? Greed/money rules all

    Why do we seem give away easy goals? don’t quite agree (see my last paragraph)

    What has happened to our passing fluidity? that is a confidence issue linked to the right formation

    Why can’t we put away our chances? Because at the moment certain players are out of form but in practice we don’t have the quality,at least in attack

    Are we using the right formation? see above

    Why are we putting players in the wrong position? That is AW’s biggest mistake,he has been doing it for years.Not logical to me,but obviously to him it is

    Why are players not fulfilling their potential? because of several questions you pose.


    United are 6 points clear and have conceded 23 goals,same as Villa who are in 17th.position.

  3. Red Arse says:


    I agree with the sentiments you expressed and the need for improvement via change.

    I also agree with your suggestion that a carefully planned delving into the transfer market in January is needed, though I suspect the Summer will be where we make most progress in that respect.

    The questions you posit have left me somewhat flummoxed, because I simply do not have any indisputable answers to many of them.

    I wonder who does?

  4. Red Arse says:


    I noticed your dastardly attempt to finagle the definition of ‘transition’ at the back end of this mornings conversations. 🙂

    I will have to allow you some leeway on that, I suppose, as for no good reason I can think of, it seems I like you! 😀

  5. Sheep Hagger says:

    Red Arse says:
    No! It isn’t coz you is Welsh, coz you have already said you is English. Maybe you is forgetful?

    Red mistake somewhere mate
    Sheep was born in Llanelli to English parents .
    I’m a welsh gunner.

  6. Red Arse says:

    Crikey it worked!! Sheep is now writing in English!! 🙂

    For a minute there, Sheep, I thought you were going to say, “I have English parents but I was born in Wales, which makes me British, with an English heritage and Welsh nationality”. 😆

  7. mickydidit89 says:

    Jeepers RA,
    You don’t half over complicate things. All it means is that Sheep likes Male Choirs and close harmony singing.

  8. mickydidit89 says:

    Quick point on one point. I really don’t belive the likes of Henry and Persie left for money alone.

  9. Shard says:

    That is a very good post indeed. I don’t know what to say to it because it actually provides more food for thought than just something we can agree or disagree with.

    One minor point of disagreement is that the players (and manager too) are doing as well as they can. They aren’t good enough for the title. But they are good enough to be top 3 or 4 and not play like they have been playing.

    For the most part I feel the same as you. I am though, largely optimistic about the club. And of all my worries, I worry that the fans’ impatience might be what actually ends up forcing us to make rash decisions. Still, can’t deny that we need some new players with the quality to improve us, and I believe we need to spend money in the next 2 windows. I think we will.

  10. Shard says:


    Fine way you have of showing it. Using words like convoluted and contradictory, and now dastardly and finagle?? Hmmmmppphh.. But thank you. The feeling is mutual. Looks like TMHT has some competition hahaha 🙂

  11. LB says:

    This definitely is a new style for you GN5, for what it is worth I really like it.

  12. LB says:


    Are you saying that you don’t think that BSR would have stayed if we had offered him the same contract as manu?

  13. GunnerN5 says:

    Morning all. 6;37am in London, Ontario.

    RA, thank you for your kind words, coming from you makes them very meaningful.

    Kelsey, we are pretty much in sync with our feelings, it’s just that I’m a tad more hardened than you and that tends to mute my emotions.

    Shard, this is what I wrote, if you read it again you, especially the last line, will see that we are in agreement.

    “You will have noticed that I didn’t write about the game or criticize the manager or our players, the reason for that is I believe that they are performing at the very best of their ability – but it’s simply not good enough – is it?”

  14. Red Arse says:


    There can be no competition with my loopy friend, Terry Titmouse, he is a one off ……………………… thank goodness.

    His friendship with the Orc Raider aka Glic, and Victoria, aka VCC tells you all you could possibly want to know about him — and them.
    Bonkers!!! 😀

  15. slime says:

    People keep saying Wenger doesn’t spend money:

    Ox £12m
    Giroud £12m
    Podolski £10m
    Cazorla £16m
    Arteta £10m
    Mertersacker £10m
    Koscielny £10m
    Santos £7m

    These are just in the last 2 years. The issue that we have is keeping players and buying the right players. Many of these have under performed, and i don’t honestly believe the manager would’ve signed all of these players in an ideal world. Some were ‘panic buys’ and others had to be bought to cover the loss of big players like Cesc, Nasri, Clichy, Song, RvP.

    If you look at the replacements from last season, Giroud, Pod and Cazorla have contributed the same amount of goals and assists as RvP and Song had at this stage. We all complained in having to depend on one player, so Wenger did the right thing in buying a number of players rather than 1.

    Cesc and Nasri were never replaced correctly and neither was Song.

    The question now is do we start spending £20m a player as £10m obviously isn’t getting the job done to everyone’s standards. What happens if they flop like Henderson and Downing? It’s not a guarantee.

    Also, people are saying we have money in the window, but that doesn’t mean the right players are available. We have all complained about replacing average with average, so how difficult is it going to be to replace average with top class when PSG, Chelsea, RM, Barca, Anzhi, City, BM etc are looking for top class?

  16. LB says:

    Top drawer comment Slim.

  17. Bryan says:

    Great post but think losing to wrexham in 91 was worst result in our history as we were top of the league & Wreham were bottom of div 4 lol but yes I know what you mean.

    It can get worse of course, if we are not in CL next season but taking a positive attitude, we WILL get better especially with afew more signings & hopefully some exits too

  18. kelsey says:

    I think one of the biggest problems is that before we buy a player one would imagine our scouting network looks at them countless times and when we finally buy them,Wenger plays them in a different position or alters their style of play.
    He will always remark that henry started on the wing but looking at just a few examples Bedntner was frequently made to play on the wing, Rosicky was a revelation in the 2006 World Cup shooting from 30 + yards out and now we have Podolski playing neither in one position or another.Walcott is adament for years now that he believes his best position is centrally (but that is open to debate)

  19. Red Arse says:

    Slim, [I am refusing to call you Slime – change back!! 😀 ]

    The figures you mention are no doubt going to be challenged by some but taking them at face value that amounts to approximately £90m. If you then add on 4 year contract values at (say) £5m per player (8 * £20) £160m the combined total of commitment amounts to £250m over the 4 years.

    That is big spondulicks, in anyone’s language.

    For me the argument is exactly as you describe it – possible ‘panic’ driven, last minute buys, pressured by the fans resulting in OK but not remarkable players bought for the team.

    My preference, without any scientific basis, admittedly, would be to have bought perhaps 4 players for the same money. That is to say split the ‘pot’ evenly (say) 4 * £25m = £100m + salaries amounting to (say) £150m.

    With that core of top quality additions, it makes all the sense in the world to incorporate some of the younger players itching to come through from the reserves with and those already in the squad, and I think that would have transformed our season and our ambitions.

    Quality, quality!

  20. kelsey says:

    There are plenty of reports on Eurosport especially that the relationship between Bould and Wenger has broken down completely and after the first initial games Wenger has taken full control.

    We have discussed this briefly before and dismissed it,but the reports are gaining momentum as opposed to idle gossip
    Bring back Pat Rice :).

  21. GunnerN5 says:

    I’m of the belief that we have to concentrate our efforts on improving our goal scoring ability, which could mean buying some top class strikers.

    Our poor/slow passing, play making and lack of penetrating passes from our mid-fielders is a big part of the cause but it’s our inability to put away our meagre chances that has caused our biggest problem.

    If we had scored one more goal in each of the games we tied then we would have an additional 12 points and would be in second place with 36 points.


    GN5, I thank you for brining sanity, reason, and logic to the fore front.

    This is a difficult time for the Club, but we have seen much worse. Our standards have slipped but we will recover.

    There will be “change”. This is an inevitabaly of life.

    My wife said to me the other day “we can only make this work if you change”. I said “of course i will change, this is an inevitably of life, just like the seasons and the economic cycle, everything evolves and morphs into a new begining” I havent seen her for three days. hahahaha

  23. Red Arse says:

    I know many of you guys have a healthy distrust and cynicism when it comes to football/sports journalists, but there is an article in the Daily Mail Online, today, by Neil Ashton, who speaks with some authority on this topic of what happened with van Persie, how much AW has to spend, his apparent caution in making his mind up on which players to buy, and his relationship with his coaching staff, especially Stevie Bould which makes very interesting reading.

    I cannot vouch for him, but I know somebody (an accountant (?) 🙂 ) who is in regular professional contact with a couple of Arsenal staff, who indicates that (maybe) things are going sour at the club, and leaks are being made to the Press by disaffected and concerned individuals.

    The bits we have all heard and read, in the media and the blogs, make sense in the light of Ashton’s article — and on top of all that — Kelsey has told us all along ‘that something is not right at the club’ — what more do we need to form an opinion?? 😆

  24. Red Arse says:

    You forgot to mention, Terry, that she was warmly holding your telescope in one hand and a carving knife in the other, at the time!! 😆

  25. Red Arse says:


    Once a singularly rubbish report has been perpetrated and despatched, it can become self perpetuating, like a ball bearing in a pin ball machine and one such report can gather numerous hits, all sharing the same author of origin!

    Of course, the same can be true of a factually correct report.

    Now let me see — eeny, meeny, minie, moe ……………….. 😛

  26. Red Arse says:

    GN5 @12:16

    That is a good point. If that lummox Gervinho had tapped in the ball from 2 feet to score, at Bradford, we would all have been a bit scathing, very relieved and looking forward to a nice semi final.

    By the way, why did he seem to hesitate when moving his foot to the ball? I don’t know! 😦

  27. Red Arse says:

    OK, enough from me. Laters. 🙂


    Yes Redders, she has attacked me in on many occasions. The last time i had to constrain her from htting me over the head with my portrait of Arsene Wenger. Whilst constraing i tried to soothe her by saying “dont worry baby, change is inevitable” this just made her madder Now i have a sore head and Arsene has a hugh crack. hahahaha

  29. LB says:

    I have just read the Daily Mail article that others have mentioned above, the quotes from Stuart Robson are partucularly infuriating, I didn’t realise I hated him until now.

    I read this in the comments section below the article.

    So Song, Fabregas RVP ROsiky Chamberlain Wiltshere Scezny Gibbs CLichy Toure Vamalen Sagna Jenkinson Podulski Carzola Arteta have all gone backwards,, realy??? Also Arsenal have the 3rd best defensive record in the league so obviously Bould is not being allowed to do his job??? I would like to remind people that he is the ASSISTANT manager!! Also Wenger has had to budget, everyone knows that but finally we will recieve money to spend and we want him sacked so someone else can bare the fruits of his labour ,,, please..

    – Method Man , Birmingham, 13/12/2012 11:48

    The spelling of the players names gives me the impression that this was written by a genuine neutral which in my opinion makes it more interesting.

  30. GunnerN5 says:


    I also, looked up, and read the article but I was so annoyed at the article that I didn’t think to read the comments.

    I’m glad that you did as it shows that we on AA are not the only folks that feel that way.

  31. slime says:


    Totally agree that from now on it has to be quality replacing the average outgoing players. Someone wrote earlier that if we sell players like Djourou and Squillaci then we will need a new 4th choice CB. Wrong! We need to buy a 1st choice top quality CB and have 4 battling it out with a youngster ie Miquel as cover.

    This should be the tone for the whole squad from now on and a Wenger should only be looking at top players.

    Also, IF Wenger starts to buy top class players and we improve, will it be put down to great financial management (ie seeing us through the tough times on a shoestring budget and biding his time for debts to be paid off and new sponsorship deals to come into place) or will it be put down to him buckling under pressure from fans and media to spend?

  32. GunnerN5 says:


    Re your last paragraph, It doesn’t really matter who gets the credit so long as we spend the money to buy players who will elevate our mediocre level of performance.

    I still remain firm in my belief that first and foremost we need strikers who can put away half chances.

  33. JM says:

    Is it the manager’s fault?
    (He has to be the leader in the footballing side of things for the team, which he is not currently)

    Is it because we won’t spend our transfer kitty?
    (Ivan Gazidis, Tom Fox, Richard Law and our manager might only be the ones in the club who knew how much we could spend on e.g. transfers, player wages & bonuses, length of players’ contract, agents fees etc). We have never spend more than £20million on a single player (in transfer fees alone).

    Why do we lose our best players?

    Last player(s) who retired at our club in the last 10yrs:
    (1) Dennis Bergkamp, 1995-2006 (coincidentally, the club went trophyless after and performances were not up to the high standards consistently each following season)
    (2) Lee Dixon, 1988-2002
    (3) Tony Adams, 1983-2002
    (4) John Lukic, 1996-2001 (2nd spell)

    After D.B. in 2006, none of our players have retired at club. There is no continuity of retaining our valuable senior players for their experiences and knowledge to be pass on to the younger generation.

    Comparing to Man. Utd., which has done better in the footballing side of things in the last 10 years:
    (1) Ryan Giggs, 1990- still counting
    (2) Paul Scholes, 1993-2011, 2012- still counting
    (3) Edwin van der Sar, 2005-2011
    (4) Gary Neville, 1992-2011
    (5) Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, 1996-2007
    (6) Eric Cantona, 1992-1997

    List of Arsenal F.C.captains (retired or sold) in the last 15yrs:

    Tony Adams (C: 1988-2002, retired in 2002 @ club)
    Patrick Vieira (C: 2003-2005, sold to Juventus in 2005)
    Thierry Henry (C: 2005-2007, sold to Barcelona in 2007)
    William Gallas (C: 2007-2008, sold to Tottenham in 2010)
    Cesc Fabregas (C: 2008-2010, sold to Barcelona in 2011)
    Robin van Persie (C: 2011-2012, sold to Man. Utd in 2012)
    Thomas Vermaelen (C: 2012- ?? )

    After T.A. retired in 2002, all of our previous captains were sold (for various reasons). I would not be surprised if T.V. could be the next one out within the next 2 seasons.

    Some of our “best” players (& captains) see little sense in staying at the club if when the time comes they could be sold off easily as with what the above (A) and (B) happened internally. Externally, better wages, chances of winning trophies, various others pull factors offered by other clubs around contributed to them leaving.

    Why do we seem give away easy goals?
    (We let in 16 goals in the league, only Man. City, Chelsea & Stoke let in lesser. Our goal difference is +10 and only Man.Utd, Man. City & Chelsea are better. We need to score more goals consistently, while defending equally well, in winning matches.)

    What has happened to our passing fluidity?
    (Our players lack understanding among themselves of the movement of one another during matches; lacking of “eye contact”, footballing intelligence – spatial awareness.)

    Why can’t we put away our chances?
    (It is about confidence and having a poacher’s mentality when attacking the goal)

    Are we using the right formation?
    (Our players are looking confused on the pitch with whichever formation they are playing currently.)

    Why are we putting players in the wrong position?
    (A.W. ideally wishes the team to play “Total Football” of the Ajax legends + “Tiki-Taka” of Barcelona. Every outfield player is a defender, midfielder, winger and forward and they are supposed to move, press, cover around the pitch as a compact unit. We do not have the right players, quality wise, to execute the mission)

    Why are players not fulfilling their potential?
    (Players look to their captain and field commander, a.k.a. our manager as guides – in playing philosophy, tactics, team morale etc. If they do not see leadership in both of them, they would often care less)

  34. dandan says:

    Good Article GN5.
    Thought you might enjoy a look at one of several articles from today’s Times by one of the UK’s better sports writers. He covers many sports besides football, being an Olympian himself and brings a touch of realism to the rampant feeding frenzy being whipped up among a section fans by less talented journalists.

    Wenger suffers character assassination in fans’ modern twist on great expectations
    Wenger deserves better than his current ill treatment Times
    Analysis Matthew Syed
    Published at 12:01AM, December 13 2012
    When, in a few decades’ time, we look back at the genius of Arsène Wenger, a number of things will stand out. The first will be the crusading brilliance of “the Invincibles”, the 2003-04 team who combined steely resilience with attacking imagination in almost perfect proportion. An unbeaten league season will remain one of the great achievements of the domestic game.
    The second will be the way in which the Frenchman transformed top-flight English football, bringing the methods of science to a subculture that, at the time, remained stuck in the past. Pretty much every team have undergone transformation (albeit to different extents) because of the pioneering work of Wenger, along with a new generation of university-educated, technologically curious coaches.
    But alongside the many other things that have lit up the English game, we will also reflect upon something less attractive when considering Wenger’s tenure: the way in which many fans have turned on one of the sport’s great visionaries. The defeat by Bradford City in the Capital One Cup was merely the latest incident for the naysayers to latch on to. Wenger, to a sizeable minority of Arsenal fans, is now a part of the problem.
    The lack of context in this perspective is breathtaking. English football is enjoying one of the most extraordinary eras in the history of sport. In the midst of huge global political and economic changes, Premier League clubs in England have become conduits for astonishing spending by the world’s super-rich, often for diametrically opposed motives.
    For Roman Abramovich, spending on Chelsea was collateral against potential retribution by the regime of Vladimir Putin. For the Glazers, Manchester United was a bauble of global capital, leveraged like some second-rate piece of real estate, for the purpose of raking in profits in a rising market. For Abu Dhabi, spending on Manchester City was about wielding the world’s most lucrative sovereign wealth fund in the pursuit of strategic power.
    And amid this torrent of oil money and financially engineered soft cash, Wenger has tried to steer a football club by the conventional rules of sane economics. Net spending on transfers has, according to some reports, made Arsenal a profit over the past ten years. The club are in the black. Debt on a rather splendid new stadium is being paid down.
    Arsenal have also done rather well on the pitch, too. Never mind the wonderful attacking football that has elevated the modern game. Never mind the many trophies won through the years. Wenger’s Arsenal have also been unerringly consistent: 14 consecutive qualifications for the Champions League knockout phase for a start.
    The lack of silverware over the past seven years, an omission thrown around like an accusation, is not so much a legitimate criticism of Wenger as a tribute to the insatiable appetites of modern football fans. Wenger’s success has created its own impossibly high expectations from erstwhile worshippers. Patience is wearing thin even though we are barely halfway through the season, and Arsenal are still in the Champions League.
    But Arsenal fans should be careful what they wish for. Or, at the very least, they should take stock of the overall contribution of the Frenchman to Arsenal. Wenger has been one of the great managers of modern times. He deserves rather more than his present ill treatment.

  35. GunnerN5 says:

    I just wrote my letter to Santa – I asked for four wins on the trot to close out 2012.

    Reading – away
    Wigan – away
    West Ham – home
    Newcastle – home

    That will help to resolve a lot of negativism and will, most likely, put us in 4th place.

    I hope Santa gets my letter because I’ve been a really good boy this year – non, nod, wink, wink!

  36. GoonerEris says:

    Those comparative stats are very revealing. We do have a lot of catching up to do on the points garnered as we are 12 points behind last season’s total, at the same period & number of games played, last season. I don’t see us doing as well in the goals scored log; if we only have 26 in the league at this point, we don’t look good enough to reach anywhere close to 74. Unless of course, we were to sign Messi. Stranger things have happened.

  37. GunnerN5 says:


    It’s writers like Matthew Syed that restore my faith in journalism, thank you for bringing it to our attention.

    I cannot buy the Times in London, Ontario – and they charge a fee to read it on line, which I will not pay.

  38. Red Arse says:

    I read Matthew Syed’s article earlier DD, but thanks for reminding me/us.

    He is a good journalist, and he wrote what many of us have been saying for the past two years, until we are blue in the face.

    — AW is the greatest manager in the history of Arsenal. He is one of the greatest of all time.

    — He revolutionized Arsenal football Club with his ideas and his vision, along with Danny Fizman, so we have the best stadium in England and one of the best in Europe.

    — He introduced fantastic flowing football that has only recently been bettered by Barcelona, albeit in the same style.

    — Every other manager, including Guardiola, has copied his training techniques and introduced them at their own clubs.

    — He has done all that, and more, without the artificial injection of huge sums of money, with did not originate with football.

    And the list goes on.

    What concerns me is that already the antics of those with a short memory, and even shorter tempers, his legacy is starting to be tainted, and I fear this will erode the reputation of a good man and a great manager.

    We are all fallible, and no one is above criticism, including Arsene, and that is OK, provided it is done with decency and due respect for a special man to whom all Gooners owe a deep debt of gratitude, whether they have the wit to agree with that, or not.

  39. Ramgun says:

    It was 1992 when we played Wrexham. They were 16th and we were 7th. What is more, we were flat-out cheated. The disgusting defeat on Tuesday was much worse. We didn’t even play that badly against Wrexham.

  40. dandan says:

    GN5 The Times digital edition which covers both my PC and Ipad cost me the whacking sum of £8 a month and includes the Sunday Times, bargain I feel. 🙂


    Stewart Robson has the personality of a dead fish. He is so boring that when he talks insomnia is cured and those who are unfortunate enough not to fall in a coma will endure mental torture.

    i once saw him interviwed by a women and he went so red i thought he would explode, but sadly he didnt. Women are an alien species to him because they dont like guns or train sets.

    Hes the kind of grumpy no mark that would look miserable on a caribean beach. Locals and tourists alike would spend there whole holidays avoiding him.

    Avoid this git at social fuctions. He will pin you down and ask wether you liked watching that eighties show “The Professionals” His admiration for Brodie and Doyle will reveal his latent homsexuality. You will ony be saved from this Bore if a women comes over. At this point he will shut up and go red, but sadly, as before, he is unlikely to explode.

    If you wish to be sure of not bumping into this Turd, avoid porn shops, professionals conventions and Train set Clubs.

    If you ever do bump into him, ask the nearest women if she wouldnt mind standing next to you until he departs.

    If after that he moves away but stands in a corner staring and waiting for the women to leave so he can indulge his erotic fantasies about Brodie with you, then ime afraid you will have no choice but to slip some of your spliff stash in his pocket and then call the police.

  42. LB says:

    I’m going to go out on a limb here TM and guess that you are not a fan of Stuart Robson.

  43. slime says:

    Thanks for printing that article DD,

    Sometimes it’s easy to get drawn into the same way of thinking as the masses, but that article cuts through the crap like a beam of light piercing a darkened room.

    Love it.

  44. slime says:

    Great to see The Romford Pele sticking up for Wenger.

    I don’t know what it is about ex Arsenal players but they are a strange group!

  45. Joseph says:

    I say its partly the managers fault we can’t really complain about transfers because if i am not mistaken this team is 62 places beneath us, it has a paltry kitty box compared to us we just had to win

  46. GunnerN5 says:


    In the article I purposely just asked the questions as I felt that if I had including my conclusions it would lead to some negative responses/feelings and my goal was to try to remain positive.

    For what they are worth here are my lay mans thoughts.

    Is it the manager’s fault?

    The answer is a simple yes (with caveats) as the Manager has the ultimate responsibility for the football product and has to stand up and be counted when we are off colour

    The caveats will be covered in the following responses.

    Is it because we won’t spend our transfer kitty?

    This is a tricky one as we are in the dark so far as available transfer funds are concerned but in my opinion Arsene has been unfairly tagged as being miserly. He has spent when he felt it was necessary and but refused to spend simply for the sake of spending.
    To go into either the positive or negative aspects of the players he has purchased would take too long and could be the subject of an article.

    Why do we lose our best players?

    Mainly due to their salary demands, which we could not meet, or their unfulfilled ambitions, which we cold not satisfy – although on occasion it has been the clubs decision.

    Why do we seem to give away easy goals?

    To me this is one of the most annoying aspects of our game, how many games have we dominated only to be hit by a sucker punch. It seems to me that we become so frustrated with winning the possession game but hitting a brick wall (big bus) that we lose our concentration and pay the price.

    What has happened to our passing fluidity?

    Early on in the season I noted how crisp our passing was and that the triangular passing routes were working effectively. It would now appear that teams have recognized that in order to stop our flow they are pressing harder and working their socks off – we have yet to find an answer.

    Why can’t we put away our chances?

    This is all down to levels of confidence and ours is at a really low ebb, Giroud seems the most likely to score bur he has not been receiving consistent service. In his absence we are left wanting, it’s a shame that both he and Theo are injured at the same time as it would have been an ideal time to try him as a striker.

    Are we using the right formation?

    Based on our results the answer is an obvious no, but will Arsene twist or will he stick.
    If we use past practice as an indication of the future intentions- then he will stick to his guns.

    Not good!

    Why are we putting players in the wrong position?

    Again the answer is an obvious yes, but why? I feel that this is one distinct area of weakness for Arsene, his experiments with players are endless and go on for far too long.
    This started with Jeremie Aliadiere and continues to this day with Ramsey and Walcott to name just two.

    Why are players not fulfilling their potential?

    Potential is the big unknown in an individual’s performance andr their ability to fit into a team. We appear to have an excellent scouting team and it’s said the Arsene’s knowledge of worldwide players is unsurpassed. Players that we have scouted and tagged as Arsenal potential are often lost at the last moment when other teams flash their cash, it’s upsetting but is a reality we have to live with.

    In the end result a players potential is a guessing game and we get it right as often as we get it wrong.

  47. jnyc says:

    We have a team that with so much change in two years, that its hard to get a feel for whats going wrong, or to have a team identity. Adding in january might help, but it may just cause more problems really.

  48. mickydidit89 says:

    Okedoke GN5
    “The reason/s behind our loss of form/ability/technique”.
    The questions are ongoing –
    Is it the manager’s fault?
    In part it is. He motivates, selects teams/tactics/formations.
    Is it because we won’t spend our transfer kitty?
    No idea. Don’t know about these things for sure.
    Why do we lose our best players?
    Some for money, some for ambition, and some I suspect, to help balance the books.
    Why do we seem give away easy goals?
    Our goals against is actually ok, but my thoughts are that a top GK helps enormously with both the confidence of CB’s as well as shouty organization.
    What has happened to our passing fluidity?
    I feel we have very good midfielders, although without Song/Diaby we lack physicality and thrust. So for the most part it’s down to poor movement from the front three.
    Why can’t we put away our chances?
    We have three strikers. One is rubbish, one plays out left somewhere and the other is getting better and the goals will flow (when we improve the wide boys. Sign Da Ting Feo)
    Are we using the right formation?
    Improve the left, add a powerhouse in the middle, and yes it can work, but we still ought to mix up the formations as games progress/needs must.
    Why are we putting players in the wrong position?
    That’ll be Ramsey (wide right) and Pod (wide left) then. Ask Arsene I guess, but sure as heck doesn’t work. I think AW has issues with the wide roles in a 4-3-3. You only need to think of both Nic and Chamakh lolling around out there.
    Why are players not fulfilling their potential?
    On this one, aside from those out of position, the only player that I feel is not progressing is The Ox and this worries me because he is my favourite player 🙂

  49. mickydidit89 says:

    Adding Messi in january may cause problems?
    You can see where I am coming from here 🙂

  50. In Wenger We Rust says:

    Havn’t written for a while but the failings are all Wengers fault bad buys bad buys and more bad buys. I was trying to think of recent purchases that have been made from the premiership and I can only think of Arteta a panic buy last year. Arsenal need a a spine of top premiership talent with guts passion leadership and players that are up for a fight not lazy europeans who dont give a shit.

  51. mickydidit89 says:

    Bastard lazy gutless Europeans like DB, PV, EP, FL and TH?

  52. mickydidit89 says:

    Actually, add Bobby to that list. Sorry.

  53. mickydidit89 says:

    Bunch of Poofs the lot of them. ROLF.

  54. In Wenger We Rust says:

    The players you mentioned learned from Adams Dixon winterburn Seamon Parlour from which Wenger inherited.

  55. mickydidit89 says:

    Oh come off it, they were born winners.
    I do take your point though that we need a real fighter/leader/winner in the middle somewhere. Whether he’s foreign or not I couldn’t care less.

  56. Red Arse says:

    Oh, God, the return of the witless rust bucket who says he has not written for a while.

    Please be my guest — take another year or two!

  57. slime says:

    I can understand players being labelled flops after 3 years, but when it starts happening after 6 months it’s getting a bit ridiculous.

  58. mickydidit89 says:

    Are you referring to Pod?
    I think, and I wouldn’t mind betting he thinks, that his role is a waste of his talents. He looks mighty cheesed off to me.

  59. IWWR. 5.03. That is one of the funniest comments I have read.The idea that Parlour was able to teach DB anything except the ability to prop up a bar is laughable.

  60. Wonderman says:

    @JM 1:40 …spot on mate. I believe the situation is complex. One side to the situation not mentioned thus far, is the possible destabilising actions of Darren Dein, agent to Henry, Cesc and others . Bear in mind a happy ship is the opposite to what Dein and Usmanov require to justify their stance. The link below I found very interesting reading ( apologies if you have already seen it) but it basically states that the football side of the business has been losing money and we have only been solvent because of player sales. I for one think that many people are underestimating the financial straight jacket Wenger has been attempting to ( and succeeding to a degree) compete with under the stadium move and we are only now beginning to bear the fruit of the stadium financially

  61. I spent a couple of very pleasant hours writing a post only to have Gn5 steal my thunder.

    More of the same discussion tomorrow I fear.

  62. slime says:


    Im just fed up with this ‘entitlement’ culture that is everywhere these days. Giroud was a flop after 20 minutes ffs! Podolski has 7 goals and 4 assists this season whilst playing wide left. All of which have come in the PL or CL. Those stats aren’t bad for a player who has never played outside of Germany. He may be annoyed at not being a striker, it didnt work out at Bayern and maybe he thought this was his chance to prove some critics wrong, but that doesn’t mean he’s a flop or a ‘bad buy’. He will get his chance, and I hope he takes it.

  63. slime says:

    If we were buying Henry in this window when he was 24 or whatever he was when he joined, and he had the same poor run of 10 games without a goal at the beginning of his Arsenal career, do you think the current Arsenal fans and the current Arsenal media would allow him to become the player he did?

  64. joseph adeboye says:

    Thanks for write-up,I believe things we change by January.

  65. GunnerN5 says:

    So sorry BR – but you should have no fear as your articles are always superb.

    I wrote mine on Monday when I was already teed off with the inane verbiage that was being flung at our club and I wanted to counter that noise with something a little more logical.

    I’m glad that I did because with one notable exception there has been some fine dialogue today.

  66. GunnerN5 says:

    Here we go again……………..


    Gervinho called up to Ivory Coast squad

    Gervinho has been called up to the Ivory Coast squad for the 2013 Africa Cup of Nations in South Africa.

    The Ivory Coast have been drawn in Group D of the tournament, along with Tunisia, Algeria and Togo.

    The competition begins on January 19, with the final held in Johannesburg on February 10.

  67. Manthan says:

    PROBLEM with arsenal is players playing out of positon… Why the hell AW poldi on left and gervinho in middle… Poldi was flop in bayern as he was playing out of position he should play in the middle and again gervinho pathetic manager… Now bradford manager says torquay was tougher opponent then arsenal wtf!!!!

  68. GunnerN5 says:

    This is a great line that I plucked from an otherwise anti Arsenal, anti Wenger article.

    Gazidis should not be telling the supporters there is money to spend. He should be telling Wenger to spend it. Not recklessly, but boldly.

  69. Gn5. Thank you, high praise though you amy be a little disturbed by some of my conclusions 🙂

    Should Gazidis tell AW to buy players? Absolutely not.

  70. GunnerN5 says:


    I feel that I will not be upset at your conclusions as they are typically well reasoned and not spur of the moment emotional outbursts.

    If AW does not buy then Gavidis telling the supporters that there is money to spend will only add fuel to the anti AW bandwagon.

    I believe that he should urge AW to go after his transfer targets and be bold in his negotiations.


    Absolutly Raddy.

    Though i would like the Club to take a punt on some attacking players, he knows what hes doing, i dont.

    Lets spin this round. If say a new guy takes over,splashes the cash and his signings are flops (liverpool) we will then not crucify him for blowing the Clubs money?

    We are not City and Chelsea who can afford to play transfer roulette.

  72. LB says:

    The day I believe that Gazidis would tell Wenger to spend money on transfers will be the day I start supporting the mighty Tottenham Hotspurs.

  73. Sheep Hagger says:

    I don’t trust Gazidis
    Much love sheep

  74. RockyLives says:

    I really enjoyed that Post. Extremely well put together. Thanks.

    Bit busy today (back in Toronto from London) otherwise I would stay around to chat…

  75. Sheep Hagger says:

    Being an adopted Mancunian from a young age, he supported Manchester City.[1]
    That’s why sheep don’t like him.
    Mr Gazidis

  76. Gooner In Exile says:

    Evening all, bit of a day and only just read post. And a good read it was too, thanks GN5.

    The first question I asked was one you haven’t:

    Is this an all time low?

    You stated it as fact or an opinion. Can you seriously not remember worse in your long and distinguished Gunnerhood?

    For me it’s not an all time low, getting knocked out of the FA Cup by Wrexham was pretty mystifying at the time but probably eased by our league form. Which the current crop are not in.

    But I don’t think I’ve had an all time low as a supporter of Arsenal, yes they piss me off but the lowest I’ve probably felt was losing to Barca in CL final.

    I say with a new client yesterday, he was taking over from an old owner and decided to keep it all as it was. But said “think of this a trial for a PL club, you have a chance to prove yourself”. I joked that as an Arsenal supporter that would be quite easy to get in to the team. Later on I asked who they supported, the Irishnan said Blackburn, he admitted it was during the glory years that he took them up as a team, made me realise that it wasn’t so bad being an Arsenal supporter. He laughed and said “you don’t know how good you have it”

    The main question to answer is where has our attacking quick passing football gone, for me it’s easy, you can add one or two players a season to a team and compliment it with promotions from the Academy skilled in the art of how the manager wants to play football. We have had to incorporate 6/7 new players over the last few years.

    Acquisitions will not improve the fluidity of our football but instead further stagnate it.

  77. GunnerN5 says:


    Your question.

    You stated it as fact or an opinion. Can you seriously not remember worse in your long and distinguished Gunnerhood

    My response – cut from my post.

    You would think that after following Arsenal for the past 66 seasons that I would be really upset about us losing out on what was, in all likelihood, our most winnable trophy this season – but I’m not the least bit upset. Over the years, I’ve observed so many poor games that one more could not possibly create any more furrows in my brow, they just seem to get deeper and more pronounced when I think about Arsenal’s performances.

    In short of course I’ve seen far worse performances, in fact far too many, but for this game expectations were sky high and we were playing a team of journeymen footballers.

  78. Gooner In Exile says:

    Thabks GN5

    I guess it is how I read all time low, I think of that statement as being about our general position rather than just the one result.

    If we are talking the game itself, then Wrexham is probably on a par.

  79. Gooner In Exile says:

    Although sadly my expectations on Tuesday night were never that high, it had upset written all over it and even more when Arsene announced the team. We were on a hiding to nothing. That’s not an excuse but its the kind of game I hate, when a team is expected to win you can always rely on them to f*** it up for you.

  80. slime says:

    Vertonghen talking about Arsenal again. Get the feeling he’s wishing he’d have chosen a different path!

    Apparently Wenger wanted him as a DM. I could’ve seen that working.

  81. barumgooner says:

    Nicely written GN5. Unfortunately I think Wenger has lost his way. He seems to be trying too hard to prove he knows best (I’m not suggesting for a second that I know more than him by the way), continually buying players who are good in a certain role and trying to change them into something they are not, buying average squad players and putting them on high wages so they will never leave. Allowing good players to go whilst allowing the terminally injured and under-achievers to hang around. As much as I hate to admit it but when Clichy,Nasri, Cesc, Rvp and Song all left like rats fleeing a sinking ship were they actually wrong to do so ? They can all see that Arsenes best days are gone, that he cant seem to motivate players, that he seems incapable of changing and affecting the game in any sort of way, that to him success is 4th place and CL money. The career of a professional footballer is a short one and would you waste it ? I love the Arsenal to my bones but I am bored, bored of the excuses, bored of the lack of tactics, bored of the good players leaving whilst the average are allowed to stay, bored of buying starlets for the future, of over-looking anyone who is proven in the EPL in order to buy a cheap un-known in the hope of finding another Vieira or Henry. What I want is something different. A change they say is as good as a rest and I personally want a change at the top. I for one would love to see AW step aside and give what is actually a pretty good squad to someone new, someone fresh and someone who still has the quality and desire to succeed at the highest level. I would accept a couple of seasons of transition just for the hope of something different but maybe thats just me….. David Moyes please.

  82. barumgooner says:

    Ok thats my little rant out of the way, i’m off to bed.

  83. Sheep Hagger says:

    He’s right I’m with him ,baru but not Mr Moyes
    Please no

  84. Gooner In Exile says:

    Barum take those players you list, exclude Cesc as he wanted to go home.

    Add them to Szczesny, Sagna, Koscielny, BFG, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Wilshere, Arteta, Walcott, Gervinho, Ramsey, Arshavin, Rosicky, Jenkinson and Ox and i’d say you had the makings of a very good squad.

    So the question, Gervinho arrived before Cesc left, as did Ox means we probably had money to buy BFG and Arteta from Cesc sale.

    Just for a good look that side woul have looked something like this:



    Could that side win something? I’d say yes.

    Would we have built it if the players that left couldn’t be sold? As I say we would have had the money from Cesc’s sale to get BFG and Arteta. So did they leave for honours or money?

  85. Bayonne Jean says:

    GIE at 2240: I shared your trepidation on what would transpire at Bradford — it was a lose-lose proposition all the way, no matter what the result, albeit the final outcome was by far the worst possible. I wonder what impact this result has on the likes of Yennaris, Miquel, Eisfeld et al. — why doesn’t the manager put some trust in us, and this is what he gets?

    What’s most disconcerting at this point is the abject lack of a discernible plan of attack on the pitch. Oftentimes the Arsenal of recent vintage has been rightly criticized for an absence of a plan b; I’d take a recognizeable plan a at this juncture. At least the “boring boring Arsenal” approach of yore was by design. Right now this Arsenal is displaying the most lifeless, unwatchable football in the premiership, and to me it’s down to a pervasive staleness that lays at the feet of the manager.

    Fortunately there’s a complete lack of quality throughout the premiership and ample time to salvage the season to wind up third or fourth in the end, and I’ll be vigourously rooting the side on But, at that time, it will be time to recognize that it’s time to refresh.

  86. chas says:

    Excellent post, GN5.

    There are more questions than answers…..
    ……and the more I find out the less I know.

    My lowest point as an Arsenal fan was the CL semi 2nd leg against the mancs in 2009.
    We’d scraped a 1-0 defeat in the away leg after being on the ropes for much of the bout.
    Expectations were sky high for the home leg but 2 early goals left us needing four. Game over.

    Perhaps that’s why I can’t see the Bradford defeat as that much of a low because my expectations weren’t that high before the game.

  87. chas says:

    Fancy a car wash?

  88. Gooner In Exile says:

    Chas, I’d wiped that from memory, thanks for reminding 🙂

    Actually a real low point was the FA Cup semi at Wembley and Gazza’s free kick that robbed GG and us of that double feeling. The next week at school was unbearable.

  89. chas says:

    No probs, GIE. 🙂
    That spud semi was a bad one too. High expectations again.

  90. Gooner In Exile says:

    Bayonne the problem is too many new ingredients to the mix. Chas posted up the Academy playing against Bilbao, you can see they know how the 4-3-3 system works, the ball moves quickly from defence to attack, the players move at speed and the passes are played to pick runners.

    In short the team have worked on the style for years.

  91. mickydidit89 says:

    Is it too early for that kind of thing Chas?
    I don’t believe it is.
    Yip, the Gazza semi was the worst for me. Three of us walked back to West London as we couldn’t face the train.

  92. Shard says:

    Morning all,

    You’re all sounding like Buddhists. The reason for suffering is desire and high expectations.

  93. mickydidit89 says:

    We used to play that quick football even with a 4-4-2. When we play Pod-Olly-Ramsey its the chronic lack of speed that kills the movement/threat.

  94. chas says:

    This is for Rasp.
    What it feels like to be an Arsenal supporter at the moment.

  95. chas says:

    I thought it was attachment, Shard?

  96. mickydidit89 says:

    How dare you Shard 🙂

  97. barumgooner says:

    GIE, i do actually think this is the strongest squad of players we have had in a long while but they are being mis-managed and let-down. If the players had stayed, we wouldn’t have got new ones in, this is true. Apart from RVP I dont think we really miss any of them and if AW were to play either of his new forwards instead of a gormless winger up front maybe we wouldnt even be missing him. The truth is Song was allowed to play without any real discipline, Nasri wanted a role in the middle but continually played left, Clichy was played more as a wing-back and therefore continually got exposed at the back (and crucified by the fans). When Cesc was here he dictated the game, then RVP took over and everything revolved around him. The team just seems to me to have no real guidance apart from this experimenting by putting square pegs in round holes to prove a point.

  98. chas says:

    There’s another version of the car wash scene on youtube which has been edited to just have the girl in.
    It misses the point. The comments from the blokes are what make the scene. The Lucille line cracks me up.

  99. chas says:

    I’m not sure knows the story of the angry buddhist. 🙂

  100. Shard says:


    I’m aware of the Buddhist on this site, though I forget his name..dharmasteve was it??

    It isn’t just ‘attachment’, but it is more than that. Basically the Buddha taught that ‘sabbam dukkham’ (everything is suffering) and ‘trishna’ (desire) is central to the cause, as well as removal of suffering.

    I never quite studied Buddhism, but I did study history 🙂

  101. Gooner In Exile says:

    Micky it has been proven by many times and by many players that speed of thought will beat speed of foot. Cesc was not fast, but he always seemed to have acres to play in, RvP is not blessed with Henry pace but again he uses movement and spacial awareness to find room.

    Right now i’d take some puposeful movement as a starting point.

  102. Gooner In Exile says:

    Sabbam dukkam translates to Adrian Durham in English.

  103. chas says:

    You even remembered his name which is more than I could do.

    Perhaps the current crop of Arse players are all Buddhists and they believe that if they indulge their desire to win each game, it will only result in suffering. 🙂

    They may have learnt from the Buddhist master Robin van Judas who practised ‘non-attachment’ to his football club.

  104. chas says:

    GIE 🙂

  105. Shard says:

    GIE 🙂

  106. chas says:

    Laters, Dharma bums.

  107. mickydidit89 says:

    Oh alright GiE, so we lack speed in the head as well as the feet 🙂
    You are not making me feel better.
    That’s top memorying.

  108. Shard says:


    BSR might well be a Buddhist.. Buddhism rejects the notion of a soul…

  109. Shard says:


    It was early enough in my time on AA, so I guess that made it easier to remember. And I have you to thank for being on AA. Your post was what drew me in, and then the comments on the site made me come over and read the posts more regularly, until now that I do so everyday (When I am not travelling, I still don’t use a smart phone)

  110. mickydidit89 says:

    Ah yes, that’ll be when I prostituted myself to the Hits God.
    Having said that, getting you on board was wise indeed 🙂

  111. Morning All.

    My worst game was Swindon in the League Cup ’69

    mmmmmm there is a post here..

  112. mickydidit89 says:

    Yuk, nasty thought.
    Can you imagine the hideous chants we will have to put up with from The Chavs should they win the World Club thing this weekend.

  113. I agree Micky.

    The writing and post were shoddy but the arrival of Shard made it worth reading every word. 🙂

  114. Thursday night on Channel 5??

  115. mickydidit89 says:

    You only read the title, you complete Tart 🙂

  116. Shard says:

    Aww..shucks you guys..**sniff**

  117. Shard says:

    haha BR.. (Or should i use your new title?)

    micky, I didn’t realise the club world thing was actually a big deal. I don’t think it is actually. But then I don’t have to put up with Chavs chanting at me either, so there’s that.

  118. Red Arse says:

    Morning good fellows, 🙂

    Micky you have hit the finger on the head!! Speed — or the lack of it has been a bugbear for some time.

    Every team needs speedy wingers — and we have them in Theo and the Gerv.

    Trouble is the one is doomed to run into an opposition defender, drawn like a magnet to a chicken, and the other is as likely to run in ever decreasing circles before falling over.

    Wisdom? It oozes from your pores like water from a sponge. 🙂

  119. Gooner In Exile says:

    So Wilfrid Zaha in the transfer window it is then? 🙂

  120. mickydidit89 says:

    It means an awful lot in S.America. Still, The Chavs chanting World Champions would be ugly.
    Back later.

  121. I know very little about Zaha except for reading the hype.

    Can he be as good as his publicity?

  122. mickydidit89 says:

    Where’s this from: “So Wilfrid Zaha in the transfer window it is then?”
    If true, that must mean Feo is not signing Da Ting.
    And Morning RA

  123. mickydidit89 says:

    Ok, sniffed about and found the Theo to Chavs story. Still, if you like that gossip stuff, then the same site mentions Kevin Strootman and Fernando Llorente linked to Arsenal, Sources Say
    All is well in the Red Tops 🙂

  124. mickydidit89 says:

    Talk to me, like Lovers do.
    As Annie Lennox said, who interestingly I believe is a Buddhist. Now, given that she has short hair, and all women with short hair are angry, could mean that she knows Steve. The circle of life.

  125. Micky. She is an angry women. When I had a music shop in Crouch End she was a regular customer but never friendly and often told us to turn the music down whilst she was in the shop.

    Miserable woman but we had loads of famous customers and she was the only unfriendly one

  126. mickydidit89 says:

    Short haired woman Raddy. What did you expect?

  127. evonne says:

    was the shop next to the pet shop, left going to the pool?

  128. Shard says:

    Must be due to all that walking on broken glass…

    I bet now you regret me coming on the site 🙂

  129. evonne says:

    I told Peaches to grow her hair, but I think she likes being angry

  130. Rasp says:

    Morning all,

    Apologies to GN5, I was at a funeral yesterday and couldn’t get on to thank him for the post.

    I have read through the responses and find it rather confusing, some comments I can take at face value, some seem to be tippy toeing, some looking to divert us from topic and others in denial.

  131. mickydidit89 says:

    Is that vid Annie Lennox? ROLF

  132. Rasp says:

    peaches is the least angry person I know!

  133. Know what you mean about women with short hair.

    The ones who really scare me also wear plastic Crocs.

    Avoid at all costs

  134. evonne says:

    no Micky, new talent that I thought Raddy would appreciate

  135. “some seem to be tippy toeing, some looking to divert us from topic and others in denial.”

    Guilty as charged

  136. evonne says:

    men with pony tails are worse than any woman in Crocs with shaven head

  137. mickydidit89 says:

    Let me immediately dig myself out of a hole here. Peaches does not have that angry short hair. Her’s is feminine, not in the Lennox hairy armpitted what are you looking at kind of way.

  138. Rasp says:

    This is what Lady Bracewell Smith had to say about the root of our problems ……

    “Kroenke was accused by Lady Bracewell-Smith of not having the passion to successfully manage the interests of Arsenal. She questioned Kroenke’s intentions, tweeting: “If making money was the motivating factor, surely there are better ways… Football is a business of passion. SK has no passion for AFC.”

    Lady Bracewell-Smith added: “[He] shows he cares very little. Why he wanted to be part of AFC I do not know,” and when asked if she was disappointed by the way Kroenke runs the club, she replied that to say so would be an understatement.

  139. mickydidit89 says:

    That’s an excellent point Evonne.

  140. evonne. You are wrong. Men with pony tails are just lost souls searching for a way through this dark, bewildering modern world.

    This could turn into a cats v dogs discussion 🙂

  141. evonne says:

    Raddy – that’ not an ironic ‘thank you’??? Is it? you don’t have pony tail, do you??

  142. Rasp says:

    I don’t dislike men with ponytails if they’ve got the personality to get away with it, but it is usually a substitute for a personality

  143. Lady B.S: Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned ……….

  144. evonne says:

    Rasp – does Raddy have a pony tail??

  145. Rasp says:

    evonne, Raddy’s ponytail is not only the longest I’ve seen, but its plaited and dyed pink – but he’s got the personality to get away with it 😆

  146. mickydidit89 says:

    No Raddy
    Men with ponytails are saying “Look at me. I’m interesting and alternative”
    While I’m (rightly) thinking “Tosser”

  147. mickydidit89 says:

    Its true what Rasp says about Raddy

  148. Rasp says:

    I agree Micky, to an Arthur Scargill combover if a man really wants to make himself look like a loser

  149. Red Arse says:

    Hi Rasper,

    Could the ‘old duffer’, aka Chairman Hill-Wood have been right in the first place when he said to Kroenke “we do not want your sort here”?

    Of course the then shareholders all took his money, including Lady Ninny Nana — why? Oh, right — they were all looking to make money – like him — and big money at that.

    ‘Hypo’ and ‘crite’ springs to mind.

  150. Evonne. No – it was referring to your kind posting of the video link.

    You have met me and know I haven’t a pony tail but I empathise with those sensitive, caring and confused men who do.

  151. Red Arse says:


    100 years ago, millions of men in China would have been cut to the quick by your ponytail remarks!! Shame on you — even tho’ you are right!! 😆

  152. Men with a moustache and no beard are odd- if one does sport facial hair then the full set is de rigeur. Those who have one or the other are suspect IMO and probably buddhists

  153. mickydidit89 says:

    Moustache and no beard=signal
    If you don’t understand, head down to Earl’s Court and ask around!

  154. Rasp says:

    Hi RA, despite initially rejecting Kroenke’s interest, all the major shareholders must have decided he was the best option for Arsenal as they could have got more money selling to Usmanov. Whether that decision was based on ‘the lesser of two evils’ thinking or some other factor I don’t know, but have sympathy with LNBS’s comment that if SK wanted to make money, there are better investments than football …. unless the club is run the way it is now 😦

  155. Red Arse says:

    This is getting confusing, so to round up.

    Micky is bald; Raddy has a mustache on his bonce, Evonne wears a multi colored ponytail, and Peaches has a beard.

    Right, now I have got it! 😆

  156. Red Arse says:


    In that case she is presenting us with a paradox.

    He can make more money elsewhere, but he has no interest in Arsenal. Que?

  157. Rasp says:

    RA, my last line suggests his investment in Arsenal has grown because of the way we are being run and is therefore good business. I am not an expert in his other sports franchises, but I get the impression that they compete at the top without ever being world beaters …. see any similarity?

  158. Rasp says:

    Time for more soul searching ….

    …. New post …….

  159. RA. & you have “blow-away” hair. Which sounds like a euphemism to me …..

    Micky. How do you know these things?

  160. Rasp says:

    RA @ 9:31, I should imagine that in the spread of SK’s investment portfolio, Arsenal is in the low risk category

  161. Jessica Roberts says:

    NOW the Accountants are against Wenger!!
    Just been sent link to brilliant article on Wenger in (I ‘m not kidding) an Accountancy website …
    “Wenger a great bookkeeper – but a bad CEO”
    Basically says despite being an Economics graduate – his commercial decision making has lead to Arsenal suffering financially. We all know about the footie bit…
    Check it out

  162. Rasp says:

    Hi Jessica, your comment has appeared on the end of yesterday’s post, I have reproduced it on today’s post for others to read.

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