The Next Three Games All Hinge On These Factors

Three games to go in this extraordinary season.

Three games to secure third place and a guarantee of Champions League football next year (not to mention the increased likelihood of retaining the services of a certain Dutchman who finds the net at moments of his own choosing).

Or three games to slip to fourth, maybe even fifth and re-ignite the poisonous debate about the future of our club and its most successful modern manager.

After a poor performance against Wigan and an unconvincing (though far from terrible) one against Chelsea, it would take a brave man to confidently predict a smooth run-in from here.

I’m not that brave.

I think it’s POSSIBLE we could win our next three games at a canter (Stoke away, Norwich home and West Brom away). I also think it’s possible we could lose two or even all three.

So let’s look at the balance sheet of pros and cons as we go into those games.

The Pros

We have a full week to rest between each game. Not that it seems to have been doing us much good lately.

None of our remaining opponents have anything left to play for.

We have some margin for error – particularly over Totteringham, but also (slightly) over Newcastle thanks to our far superior goal difference.

In recent weeks this team has beaten Totteringham, Liverpool, Newcastle, Everton, AC Milan and Manchester City.

Benny the Goon will be available (he was ineligible to play against Chelsea).

Diaby is back and managed to complete half an hour on Saturday without injuring himself again.

Coquelin is fit again to provide more cover in midfield.

Tomas Rosicky has been in his best Arsenal form for years.

We have two of the best central defenders in Europe.

We have the second highest number of scorers of any team in the EPL this season (17).

We have Robin van Persie and he scores when he wants.

We have Arsène Wenger as our manager.

We are The Arsenal.

The Cons

We are losing key players at this vital time.

Walcott is the latest to add to that list after idiotically trying to run off a hamstring pull. He reminded me of John Cleese playing a knight in The Holy Grail and getting his arm chopped off: “Just a flesh wound!”

With Walcott, Arteta, Mertesacker and Wilshere all unavailable for the rest of the season we can’t afford to have any more of our top players out – especially the PFA Player of the Year (Lord Dennis hear our prayers).

Arteta’s absence may well be the most crucial, as we tend not to win games without him and he dictates the tempo of the team. So far his replacements have been more garden gnome than metronome.

We still haven’t entirely shaken off last season’s bad habit of hitting the self destruct button (witness the two goals in two minutes conceded to Wigan).

In recent weeks this team has lost to both QPR and Wigan.

The zip and zing seems to have vanished from our open play. We need someone to just rip out the handbrake.

Tomas Rosicky is starting to look tired.

Robin van Persie has stopped scoring and looks jaded.

We have Arsène Wenger as our manager.

Which Arsenal are we?

When our strong run of results started in February (coinciding with the return of our orthodox fullbacks) one of the most striking things was the obvious camaraderie among the players.

Led by the captain, the team seemed really to be enjoying each other’s company and relishing one another’s successes.

Lately things have been harder going and the joy and togetherness engendered by some great wins and stunning late goals has been harder to spot.

If we are going to finish the 2011/12 season the way we all hope, the crucial factor (in my view) is going to be the players themselves. Arsene Wenger and the coaching staff can do their bit, but in these last three games it’s going to come down to the players refusing to fail.

In the last few seasons our players have not had the strength of character to finish strongly when it counted.

This year I believe we have a team with greater moral fibre, led by a captain with far greater powers to motivate and inspire than his sulky predecessor. Robin van Persie, regardless of his own scoring form, needs to remember that his role as leader and inspiration could still be the deciding factor in us finishing third.

(I’m sure you have your own ideas of ‘pros and cons’ that I have failed to include. Please share them in the comments).


373 Responses to The Next Three Games All Hinge On These Factors

  1. Morning all – The Rock has successfully encapsulated our fears about the last 3 pivotal games of the season; how we do in those will set the tone for ur summer tansfer activity and our pre season mood.

    First up, the Orcs of the Shittannia, while they will be jaded after along Europa campaign no doubt we will get “There’s only one Ryan Shawcross” sung at our boys when we take ot the field in Mordoor.

    For the physicality of the game I would concur with previous posters who’ve suggested two of my least favourite players, to be included, Diaby and Chamakh, the latter being the nearest thing we have to a battering ram and the former to give a bit of “bite” to the midfield.

    It won’t be easy at the Shittania with their taped crowded noise – we need the Orcs to be thinking about their summer holidays on Saturday and maybe they will be distracted enough to take their minds off their primary task, as deemed by Pugilist, i.e breaking Arsenal limbs.

    Anyone seen this hatchet job on the Arsenal by that ex-manure “front bottom” Lou Macari ?

    F**k Stoke and F**k Macari.

  2. Panic says:

    Nice post mate. Only thing I disagree with is that we have margin for error over Newcastle. They are 3 behind with a game in hand, so effectively if they win all 4 games and we don’t win 1 of our 3 they will finish above us.

  3. elkieno says:

    Good read on the train home at 6:50pm!
    I liked your pros and thought that it dined up our teams good points. However in the ‘cons’ segment you mention a few valid points but the last one about Arsene Wenger I didn’t like much at all. He is the reason we are who we are and the day he does go will be a sad and scary day. Other than that a good read.

  4. Hi elkieno, as “Arsene is our manager” is in the “Pros” section I’m guessing the writer of the post(Rocky) implied that some sections of our fanbase see Wenger as a weakness while others see him as a strengh.

    Rocky is definitely in the latter category.

  5. Panic says:

    elkieno, the author is a staunch pro-Wenger man. It’s called humour.

  6. elkieno says:

    @panic: don’t forget that Newcastle have to play City (chance for title back on) Chelsea and dine other team. There run in is much harder than ours (just on paper). So Stoke would love to derail us so close to the line, there is no way they will be thinking bout Sumer hold until after our game at least. I fancy Diaby to do something in these last three games. If he can stay fit then it could well be a good next season ‘new signing’ with complete devotion to Arsene and Arsenal!!

  7. TotalArsenal says:

    Great post Rocky. When we go into battle I only want to see the pro’s. Sometimes, I am worried about our soft underbelly – when we have to show our killer-instinct and beat the less-regarded opponents. But on Saturday our underbelly will be a six pack:

    1. Robin is on a high and wants to score again
    2. Our back-four bullies rather than is bullied
    3. Ramsey will bury his demons on Saturday
    4. The Orcs are the most hated minnows in the PL
    5. Our Spine will see us through – Song will be the rock in the centre
    6. We are The Arsenal.

  8. TotalArsenal says:

    Rocky can speak for himself later – and yes he is a great fan of Wenger – but it does not mean he is perfect. In these sort of games, it is difficult to know what we are going to get from Arsene. Will he stay calm and professional or will he let himself get wounded up by the village idiots?! So, I can see why he included him in both categories.

    One thing is for sure the Orcs loath us as much as we loath them, and nobody should expect them not to be fully fired up for this. This will include nasty tackles, winding the referee up, winding up our players with silly comments, making it a very physical battle with the aim to get our players to react and get send-off, many f*cking throwies into the box, and a vicious crowd permanently hurt by a 21st century minority complex, resulting from the collective inability to read or write, or express themselves with anything else but snorts. It is going to be ugly, in every sense of the word.

  9. kelsey says:

    Thanks for a great post RL.

    I wish i had a crystal ball and knew which team would turn up on Saturday as I like to take one game at a time.

    All three teams we have still to play have only pride to play for but Stoke offer the biggest threat in height and they are a physical team, yet they are having an average season .
    I don’t think it makes any difference if we finish 3rd,4th or fifth as far as keeping RVP, Song or Walcott. If the Podolski deal is done there are good arguements as to if he is to play instead of RVP should he leave, to play with RVP, as he can play flank or striker or just have him as a quality player in the squad.
    my concern is that I can’t see a dramatic change in policy by the club and if RVP or Walcott leave, we will just replace at a similar fee or promote from inside the club.
    it’s fairly obvious that there will be many players leaving and that will reduce the inflated wage bill leaving money over.
    if we finish third it will be a great achievement after the start we made and so many injuries but a team that can play well and beat City and lose to QPR and Wiagan in the same ten days,shows what this season is all about, a lack sometimes of motivation and a lack of consistency.
    we cant keep going behind and then go on to win.(6 times this seasn)
    On paper the defence looks far more solid, and the two main areas for me is that we still don’t know which players are best in the midfield area the work best together and a lack of regular goal scorers apart from Robin.

  10. Nice to see Robin get the FWA player of the year gong too.

    Some would say the only trophies he’ll get at Arsenal – at any rate it was nice to have him while we did no matter what happens this summer.

  11. kelsey says:

    I sense you think he is going chary.

    Daren Dein is the key: Fabregas,RVP and Song.

  12. goonermichael says:

    I’m glad the football writers aren’t all wankers like some of the knobs I follow on twitter. Great post Rocky. I thiink we’ll get 3rd. If Newcastle win thier remaining games then I think we could say they deserve it. I don’t think they will though. Thank Dennis for TV’s late winner against them.

  13. bash nigeria says:

    spot on analysis!as much as i share in ur views,am bemused aw arsenal fans culd louse hop abt d team as soon as we hav a blip.dt notwistanding sum unnnecesary blips,bt i do think this teams character has improved remarkably compares 2 d cesc era in wich evn d players demselves has litle or no respect,far away 4rm cesc being a gr8 player 4 us,bt i feel dis gunners of late ar starting 2 show wt dey’r rilly made off!cum on ye gunners, let’s rift d rugby brittanians apart.

  14. henrychan - indonesia says:

    Now we only compete with Newcastle and not Spurs anymore.. hehehe.. So something.. (in Indonesia we say : Sesuatu banget.. hahaha..)

    Spurs must face 2 bottomline skuad.. But never underestimated them, Bolton and Blackburn can hits anyone just like Wigan and QPR did.. I hope Miyaichi will score and lift up Bolton from degredation zone..

    With 4 games left for Newcastle.. their opportunity is less than us.. They must face Wigan first (Away) and Chelsea (also Away).. than City and Everton (again away).. and by the way Everton do in United last sunday.. It will be very hard for Newcastle to deal with.. I think none of this 4 games would be easy for them..

    On the other hand we just need to face Stoke, Norwich and WBA.. We can beat them all.. if we focus.. And I pretty sure that our skuad is very focus rigth now to win all this 3 left.. And for RVP with the trophy (FPA Player of the year..) will give him some energy to comeback and score more anda more.. I hope he will score a least 4 more goal.. Than the Golden shoe (of EPL) will be his..

    So I can optimisticly say, we will go for UCL next season.. Go Gunners..

  15. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Thanks Rocky,
    I can’t see Totnum picking up a single point ( 🙂 ) and with Toon losing to Citeh then its down to their game against the Chavs and any result will knock either out of the hunt.
    Plain sailing I say.

  16. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I bet LB’s bike Robin goes.
    Podolski is simply miles away from a Wenger left sided player, and we will not play two strikers, and he will not play second fiddle, and we will cash in on a 30 yr old, and, and… 😦

  17. goonermichael says:

    Someone (who claims to know Dein Jnr) on twitter last night said Dein is a lawyer and commercial adviser. He has no hand in moving players apart from writing the contracts (and the terms) He is not an agent for RVP.

  18. Mdi89 – I bet London’s house Robin will go as well, but I am not too sad at the prospect as long as we replace properly and Robin does not do a Cesc on us and leave at the end of August giving us no time to find a replacement.
    BTW, thanks for that you traitorous back-stabbing homesick spaniard.

  19. Rasp says:

    Great post Rocky. We probably will only need 4 points out of the last 9 to secure 3rd place. A win against the Orcs will make the game against Norwich much more relaxed and I’d expect us to have an end of season party and celebrate St Tottingham’s day at our last home game of the season.

    Even a draw against Stoke will be OK – but we must not lose; so the defence will have to be solid and the midfield must work hard and keep the ball moving.

  20. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I love your references to how a certain Arsenal striker may or may not score if he does or does not choose to 🙂

  21. goonermichael says:

    Doesn Wenger see Robins as more of a Bergkamp type player?

  22. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I agree with every word. Well said, and as for the “degredation zone”.. genius 🙂

  23. Rasp says:

    Micky, chary, I agree that its looking like RvP will go – and maybe because the club want to cash in as much as him wanting away.

    I think we should try everything to keep hiim as well as getting the pod and hoping Campbell will be our chicharito

  24. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I wish, but no. Unless of course he follows my advice, and goes 3-5-2!

  25. Raspers, I think we have the scarey prospect, as pointed out by Peachy, of a forward line of Park and the Pipe smoker.

    Even a doomer like me can’t believe that will happen.

  26. Rasp says:

    Micky, I think your 3:5:2 is a great call but would only work if Vertongen where at the centre of it. We could always revert to 4:5:1 in games where we needed to be more cagey.

  27. goonermichael says:

    Rasp. I hope Campbell is a lot better than chickwithadick personally

  28. Rasp says:

    chary, don’t even whisper it! I’d have to give up football for a year and go and sit on top of some remote mountain away from all forms of communication if Park and Cham were our only strikers.

  29. Rasp says:

    Haha micky. If he were ‘only’ as good as Chich, he’d still be way better than the two that chary mentions.

  30. goonermichael says:

    I’ve read (on numerous occasions) that Wenger sees Robin playing behind a main striker.

    Letting Robin see out his contract wouldn’t be that bad although I’m not sure Robin would want to risk it

  31. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Nothing suggests to me that Robin necessarily wants to go, I just think its The Arsenal way. The Board must look at the figures, his age, the chances of another full injury-free season and how the money could be spent re-building.
    This is not what I want, just what I expect to happen. As I’ve said to you before, a Podolski signing just screams replacement to me.

  32. Raspers, that can’t happen can it ?
    Even Bendy coming back would be better than those two.

    But I’m coming to terms with Robin’s departure when/if it happens. He will be 29 soon and I very much doubt we’d get many more injury free seasons out of him.

  33. goonermichael says:

    Podolski is also a bargaining tool Micky.

  34. Rasp says:

    I agree about the Board’s view of Robin’s value Micky. If we keep RvP and buy the Pod – what happens to Gervinho? The Gerv is not impressing at the moment and needs time on the pitch to regain form – I assume that wouldn’t happen if Podolski plays.

  35. Steve of Chiang Mai says:

    The thing about Newcastle is their run in. Wigan, as has been seen lately, is no forgone conclusion. They could drop points there, share a point against Chelsea and lose to Man C. After that emotional wheels be well and truly off and Everton could even roll them at the last……

  36. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I agree with your “wouldn’t be that bad” comment about letting Robin run down his contract, but then again, I couldn’t care less if it cost Arsenal £30m 🙂

  37. goonermichael says:

    Gervinho seem like the type of player who’ll sit on the bench without complaining. He’s also off to the ACN again in January

  38. Big Daddy says:

    RL Your posts always give me a laugh out loud moment as well as points to consider. This is superb and unfortunately true.

    ” So far his replacements have been more garden gnome than metronome.”

    As to RvP leaving. No way in hell is Podowlsi an adequate replacement, he is surely an addition to a RvP reliant frontline.

    Robin is staying. I bet a round of award winning Carlsberg Classics

  39. MickyDidIt89 says:

    You and I have had a couple of little “chats” about Podolski. My beef has always been that there is no place for him in our current 4-3-3. We would lose all width. As a replacement for Robin, he may well be absolutely perfect.

  40. goonermichael says:

    No signing on fee
    Cheap wages
    He won’t have much sell on value at his age anyway.

    I’m not sure the board will give a £140k PW for 3 or 4 years to a player who is nearly 30 and has a history of injuries.

  41. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Morning Big Daddy,
    Is it out with the betting slips again?
    I bet you a kebab (with extra chili sauce) and all the beers you can drink over lunch that Robin goes.

  42. Big Daddy says:

    Micky. You have a bet (lucky for you I only drink two beers at most over lunch)

  43. Big Raddy says:

    I have a year end exam at Uni this afternoon. So will be off until late this evening.


  44. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Irrelevant Big Daddy, seeing as I’m going to win. However, if you want to take that line, then it will cost you two cokes at most!

  45. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I always found that cheating pays off big time, so remember your phone with all relevant apps and downloads 🙂

  46. I’m with Mdi89 on this Big Randy – I’m guessing Robin will leave early-mid August.
    For a player the club kept faith with throughout his injury-ravaged career, it is in keeping with modern thinking that as soon as a player has one good season he will be off for a bigger paycheck and/or glory elsewhere.

    Cynical ?

    No, realistic.

  47. dandan says:

    Morning all here is quote to gladden the heart of those who are certain RVP is leaving.

    Dennis Bergkamp: “He has been playing in a role [the main striker] which is very difficult. I think it is easier for a guy like Robin or me to play behind the striker and feed the main striker. Basically he is the one up front who has to make a difference which puts a lot of pressure on him but he can deal with it. He can make the difference time after time and in my opinion that describes a great player. It’s incredible how he has developed himself and players like that deserve trophies. His character and style of play is fantastic.”

  48. TotalArsenal says:

    Well said Raddy! 🙂 I will aslo bet a box of Grolsch with anybody saying RvP is going this summer

    RvP is sooooooooooooooooooooo going to stay. The Pod is simply well needed and overdue extra fire power who can play on the left or in front of RvP. A top team needs options up front and the Pod will fit in like a pea in a…… pod. The Pod’s left sidedness could be the answer to this season’s lobsidedness towards the right…..think about that Micky, think about that!! 🙂

    RvP is not just our main striker – he is our leader around which we have build this current team. Letting him go is starting a new transitional year. Wenger is not going to do that – no way. NO WAY. He will stay, the Pod will join and another attacking midfield gem will be bought. Otherwise Arsene is off, simples.

  49. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Woah, slow down Chary,
    I’m not with you at all as I don’t think it will be Robin’s choice, rather Arsenal’s.
    We do agree on the end result though.

  50. LB says:

    After the amount of time RvP has spent at Arsenal surely it is understandable if he wants to experience another brand of football in what is left of his career. Well, to me it is anyway.

    I could deal with him going anywhere abroad but I would be really disappointed with him if he went to City.

    So for me it is ABC

    Anywhere But City.

  51. dandan says:

    “Players like that deserve trophies” must mean Dennis is telling him to leave doesnt it? 🙂

  52. LB says:

    Just to clarify, I am in the camp that thinks he will leave but not just for the financial rewards.

  53. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I’ve thunk 😦

  54. I think it will be a mixture of things(not just Robin’s desire to leave) that will mean Robin will go, the destination hopefully ABC as London says, Mdi89.

    Even 5 years ago I’d be less certain Robin would go, but having seen the behaviour of various footballing mercenaries from our team in the last few years(Na$ri, homesick spaniard, the whore etc..) I’m expecting a departure, I’m guessing to Madrid or the Cheating Catalans as a back up for Villa.

    I’m neither happy or unhappy at the prospect – it’s merely the way things are nowadays.

  55. kelsey says:

    DD is RVP’s official adviser,whatever that means.

  56. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Your bike is safe LB.

  57. Rasp says:

    Hi LB, I agree that if RvP goes it will not be for money. The problem is that if it’s to get something for his mantlepiece there are only 3 or 4 clubs that he could go to for a better chance than he has at Arsenal. I’m not sure Barca or Real have room for him – Benzema is now doing well at Real.

    Although I also think he will go, I’m not sure which of the big clubs would want him. If the Board decide they want to cash in on him, he could well end up somewhere with less chance of silverware, but as youy say, he would be experiencing football in a different culture and that is a challenge in itself.

  58. goonermichael says:

    Apparently He’s a “commercial adviser”

  59. The thing is TotalA – every single time in the past when a big name has left Wenger has always said “If a player wants to leave you have to respect their wishes”

    I don’t want to sound negative(no, really) but I’m only looking at past behaviour(Which, I know, is no guarantee of future performance).

  60. Rasp says:

    Has anything Darren Dean’s been involved in since DD left ever worked out to Arsenal’s advantage?

  61. Rasp says:

    Here’s the answer….. we offer Robin a 2 year extension to his contract on silly money – take it or leave it

  62. dandan says:

    Why so many negatives around this week , Rasp, Chary, Kelsey you would have laughed at anyone who dared to suggest we could be in this position after the First Man utd game.

    Well here we are things have gone well, why Must they deteriorate, how do we make such judgements from newspaper or blog, comment. Please!!!!! do me a favour the only quote you can trust is RVP’s Re his affection for the club, Arsene and his team mates together with his oft repeated we will discuss the future at season end.
    So why the conjecture

  63. dandan says:

    Rasp. Your position has always been RVP isn’t interested in money, So why your @11.58

  64. Our Dutch Master, Captain RVP
    Couln`t help but score reguarly
    The billionaire oil Baron scum
    Will offer him a King`s ransom
    Arsenal`s his love, he`ll extend another 3

  65. Rasp says:

    Hi dandan, the reason for my 11:58 is that the club has to show RvP that it values him and £150k a week is the minimum he would get elsewhere.

    I don’t think he’s motivated by money but I’m sure, like all of us, he wants to be paid what he’s worth – its a matter of showing him respect.

    Unfortunately, I think the Board may be more motivated by money than RvP which would make his chances of being sold greater.

  66. RockyLives says:

    Hello All – thanks for the comments.

    It would be a BIG mistake if the club chooses to move RvP on for the money and because of his age etc.

    As Total says, he is much more than just a great goal scorer. He has become the heart of the new Arsenal and if we lose him we’ll be facing another transitional year with another captain (probably Verm) who may or may not have what it takes to lead as well as Robin does.

    I’m a bit depressed that the majority on here think he’s going to go. We have shown promising signs this season of what we could turn into – but we need continuity. Letting our greatest asset go for purely financial reasons would send out a terrible message.

    Of course if RvP refuses to sign a new contract and insists on a move it’s a different situation… but it would still be a shame.

  67. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi Chary, I understand the link to past behaviour. I remember London – now LB – using past behaviour as a guiding point for transfer decisions, last summer. In the end, we were all surprised how different things turned out to be over that summer. We are all a bit uncertain on what will happen this summer with regards to contract and players coming or leaving. But I remain sure about RvP: he ain’t going anywhere. 🙂

  68. TotalArsenal says:

    ABBA – anywhere but beloved Arsenal 😛

  69. TotalArsenal says:

    As in he ain’t going….ABBA 🙂

  70. Sorry fine post Rocky,
    I`ll second that TA, he ain`t going anywhere.
    He loves Arsenal, he doesn`t need the money, I dont think he`s homesick!.
    I think he`s a man of honour and principles, he knows he`s been looked after with injury after injury ( there`s even a waxwork figure of him on a physio couch at Arsenal Tussauds ) and he knows he owes us, he`ll do the right thing !.

  71. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I’d bet LB’s bike and house that you’d find 100% agreement on here as to whom we’d like most in our starting line up next term to score as and when he felt like it.

  72. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi dandan, you have not been on AA for a few days and I hope your wife is making steady progress again.

    Bergkamp has always been saying how Robin should play in the hole, that this would suit the team best. Don’t be totally surprised if that is where he will play next season. I would love it as well! 🙂

  73. RockyLives says:

    You mean that fellow who locates the onion bag entirely according to personal whim?

    Couldn’t agree more 🙂

  74. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Just because it was Shakespeare’s birthday yesterday, doesn’t mean you need to come over all arty and poetic on us 🙂
    My worry is not Robin’s intergrity, but the board’s business model.

  75. dandan says:

    Sorry Rocky most rude of me to not comment on a finely crafted article.
    My view, we are through the worst and on the up, The PL is throwing up odd results all over the place, why should we not have our share.

    Looking back to the weekend and the end of the Wolves game, a demoralised relegated team looks to its supporters and they respond with a standing ovation they in my book are real fans.

    It is a much used but never the less true cliché in football concentrate on one game at a time.
    No doubt RVP is doing that and at season end will sit down with Arsene, only then will what he wants become clear as will whether we are able or prepared to meet them.
    As for RVP if we finish third, then money won’t be a problem and there will be no difference financially, between upgrading his contract to keep him or if he wants to go, refusing that wish and losing the transfer fee in a years’ time.
    Either way we get another year during which he might just change his mind.

  76. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Rocky 🙂
    A fella’s got to want what a fella wants to do.

  77. Rasp says:

    I’m in agreement with everything everyone says about RvP 😕

    But it is a sobering exercise if you put yourself in his position. He has maybe 3 or 4 years left whilst at the peak of his powers. He’s been loyal to Arsenal and we’ve reciprocated. He’s seen TH14, Cesc and Na$ri all move on with varying levels of success. But he must also want something to look back on at the end of his career and say “I won that” (PFA player of the year exempt before any of you say it). I think if a top club want him, he’ll want to go, if not, I’m hopeful he will stay assuming the Board don’t think otherwise.


    Great post Rocky, the main positive is we are Arsenal, the downers are….urgh…there are none, we are Arsenal.

    Just to stick my oar into the RVP debate, and hopefuly not upset my Ducth friend TA, Arsenal must do what is right for them, and if this includes letting RVP go, then so be it.

    Things change so quickly in football. The arrival of a couple of new players, a tweak in formation, could all result in RVP’s importance significantly reduced. All this has to be balanced with the players age, 29 i think?, and a terible injury record, this is his first full season after all. Then you have the finacial implications. What will his agents want? Do we smash our wage structure? give him a massive signing on fee etc?

    Whatever the outcome of the RVP situation this summer, we will continue to go from strength to strength. Plenty of young talent waiting to step up to the plate, and with each passing year our financial position grows stronger.

    Saying all this, obviously i hope RVP stays. hahahaha

  79. LB says:

    Leave me something Micky lol

  80. Your right Tricky Micky, If he goes, I think It will be the boards financial say on the matter. ” I`m talking about money money ” ( Simply Dred ) 😦

  81. Terry,
    Your Limerick last night .
    1) They normally have 5 lines
    2) lines 1,2,and 5 should rhyme and lines 3 and 4 should rhyme
    3) Yours didn`t
    4) Why did It make laugh more then ?
    5) 😆

  82. TotalArsenal says:

    Micky, do have you access to the Board’s Business Model? Or are you making a few logical financial assumptions that lead you to the conclusion they will want to sell him now?

    Any sales value and saving on costs needs to offset against costs for replacing him, risk of replacing him unsuccessfully – including a further drop in sporting achievements i.e. not making top-four next season, strong reduction of supporter Goodwill (already fragile), loss of appeal: a top team needs superstars to attract and keep other stars and RvP also comes with a strong marketing value, ability to still sell RvP in two or three years time albeit against a lower value.

    If RvP wants to stay, which I am sure off as long as Arsenal invest wisely this summer and pay him a decent package, the BoD would be silly to let him go for the money. It just would not be worth it/ the risks would be too high.


    Cornwall, you ever seen them blokes that walk around with one collar in an the other out, or with there fly undone? thats me. hahaha

  84. Rasp says:

    Hi TA, forgive me for jumping in when your comment was addressed to micky, but this passage….

    “Any sales value and saving on costs needs to offset against costs for replacing him, risk of replacing him unsuccessfully – including a further drop in sporting achievements i.e. not making top-four next season, strong reduction of supporter Goodwill (already fragile), loss of appeal: a top team needs superstars to attract and keep other stars ”

    …….. describes what we did when we let Cesc and Nasri go last summer doesn’t it?

  85. A finely worded response TotalA and I don’t doubt the sincerity with which you put forward your views and while I feel Robin may well go I’d feel great to be proved wrong if he signs a new contract at the season’s end.

    And yet.

    I don’t like it when a player says “I want to concentrate on the matches and then when the season is over I’ll talk about my contract”.

    It worries me for 2 reasons, firstly professional footballers have enoguh time outside of training and match days to be told what they need to know about offers on the table for renewed contracts.

    Secondly, nearly evey time a player says they “want to concentrate on playing” it is a prelude to an exit as they wait to see what better offers come in from other clubs if they are having a stand out season, like Flamini and Robin had/are having.

  86. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Frankly, I think I’m gambling your persoanl possessions very wisely. You are in good hands, as will be your car ,which is next on the line.

  87. kelsey says:


    i said nothing negative just covering all angles.

    The key for me is that AW has said he wants the situation resolved with RVP four days after the season ends, or something like that.

    bring back Alliadaire I say 🙂

  88. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Everything I say and think about the Robin is how I assume the Board will play it. Not me, not Robin and absolutely not want I want.
    So, being a practical sort of fellow, I think by selling the obvious candidates as well as Robin, and grabbing a Podolski, a Vertonghen and a Mata type then yes I’d be happy.

  89. I`m sometimes accused of not enough Football content, ok here goes.

    FOOTBALL, football,Football, fOoTbAlL, footBALL, FoOtBaLl, FOOTball, fOotbaLl, FooTbaLl, fOOtbALl, FootbalL, fooTBall, FooTbAll, FOOTBALl, footbalL, FOotball, fOOTBALl, foOTBall, FOotbaLL, fooTball, FOotBall, LLABTOOF. F**K all this football stuff, after a while It gets a bit boring. It`s nice when others get on and break it up with some humour.
    I cant think of anything funny, bollix , lets talk about Football !

  90. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Anyone want to bet on anything? 🙂

  91. While I feel Robin is off I don’t feel that is necessarily a negative as long as his replacement is in place early and is of similar, if not better, quality.

    Additionally, while 3rd place is going to be difficult I think we will just about squeak through and we can celebrate St Totteringham’s day on the last day of the season. 🙂

  92. I do know Terry, I have seen you ! 😆

  93. Micky,
    I bet you a pint I can go all day without mentioning football !………. Bollix I`ve just said the word……………….I owe you a pint !

  94. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi Rasp,

    I was responding to Micky’s assumption that even though RvP might want to stay, the BoD will want to sell him this summer. As you know, both Nasri and Cesc wanted to go – Arsenal did not have much choice in the matter.

    For me, the loss of Nasri has had very little negative impact on the club, but Cesc’s unavoidable departure has put us back significantly.

    If RvP wants to go as well, Arsenal have to weigh up, once again, what this would mean for the business-side and sporting side of the club. But I just don’t buy it that it would be worthwhile from a business point of view to sell RvP this summer, if he himself wants to stay (given a few conditions).

  95. Double98 says:

    I am up for Chelsea tonight and Manure next week

    Cesc Fabregas leaves Arsenal in search of personal glory and wins the equivalent of 3 emirates cup medals – he goes from being one of the top 5 player in the EPL to not being one of the top 5 players in barse – and all the commercial ramifications of that.

    Samir Nasri leaves Arsenal in search of personal glory and wins the equivalent of a sore arse –

    RVP stays with Arsenal and wins the Player’ Player of the Year, The Football Writers Player of the year, the Golden boot and goal of the year.

    Robin – you are with the good guys…. that has to count for something

  96. Rasp says:

    Micky, the case for RvP leaving is not as strong as Na$ri’s departure last year which was 95%. I see RvP as 55% going at the moment.

    The difference is that RvP is a good bloke, we should have Podolski signed and AW (as kelsey says) wants to know his decision before the Euros.

    I don’t think RvP would say he wants to go unless a club he’d want to play for has made it clear they would be in the market for him – so I’d guess his agent/advisors are working overtime at the moment. They don’t need to publicise his availability as the British Press have been doing that for them all season.

  97. Rasp says:

    Agreed TA, Nasri’s not been a great loss, we should have gone for Ben Arfa in the first place.

  98. TotalArsenal says:

    Chary and Micky, you talk about Robin like he is a part in a machine that can be replaced with another quality piece, and that’s it. I am not buying that at all.

    No player is bigger than the club and we’ll survive, but a departure of RvP would be a major step backwards and we’ll start again where we left at the start of last season. There is plenty to be resolved over the summer already that we can well do without have to embed a new captain as well as one or two new main strikers.

    Chary, is RvP not simply waiting whether Arsenal qualify for CL football before he feels he can sit around the table to do a bakkie koffie with the boss?

  99. Double98 says:

    I think RVP will stay – i think he will sign early and give Wenger a clear run at post season and preseason.
    Right now he is the best player in the EPL
    He must know that it is partly to do with his talent but mostly to do with the fact that Wenger has groomed him and given him the stage.

    He doesn’t stand out in the holland team which is built for Robben and he won’t stand out in barca, man u, real, chelsea or city.
    Juventus is a step down – playing to 150 people every second week in turin – Please Robin – why would you do that…?

    he should get the love now in the form of EA sports sponsorship and maybe even a gillette deal – he has the physical profile for a clean shaver and now he has the media profile in the UK…

    Give us a title robin and you’ll have be emblazoned on the heart of gooners everywhere.
    or go to mancity fall out with ballotellie and end up on loan with some mid ranking team like spurs

  100. TotalArsenal says:

    Rasp, I agree with you on Ben Arfa – he has been brilliant lately. He is the sort of footballer that makes you want to watch the Barcodes’ games.

  101. TotalArsenal says:

    ‘and maybe even a gillette deal – he has the physical profile for a clean shaver and now he has the media profile in the UK…’ hahaha 🙂

  102. Rasp says:

    Yes TA, we would have loved him at the Arsenal – who knows, maybe he’ll be a target for us in the future?

  103. TotalA, I’m not saying it would be easy to replace Robin, just easier if we have more time in the summer, not the 2-3 weeks we had when the homesick spaniard and Na$ri slid off surreptitiously, then we have some chance of addressing our squad deficiencies.

  104. I thought we were interested in Ben Arfa a while back, why didn`t we go for him earlier ?, he has good pedigree, being the son of Ben Hur and Ben Him, we`re probably end up with his dodgy Brother, Ben Arfa Daley.
    This talk of Clint Dempsey, More like Clint Eastwood, mind you, If he cant make our day who can !. Goetze !, more like Goats, much more environmently friendly than a mower !.
    oops is that the time , have to take the “trouble” to physio .

  105. TotalArsenal says:

    Rasp, you mentioned Cabaye yesterday as well. Is it not amazing how Pardew has assembled a very strong team on a small to medium sized budget (although Afra was already there before he arrived). No wonder the Barcodes are calling him Pardiola! 🙂

  106. TotalArsenal says:

    OK, Chary fair point. Ideally, at least 80% of our transfer business is done before the start of the WC. Unlikely though 😦

  107. Gooner In Exile says:

    Afternoon all

    Good post Rocky summing up what this Arsenal team has done to us all season, being one minute amazing and the next depressing.

    Congratulations to Van Persie for getting FWA today, people complaining still that we haven’t won anything, yet no one complained when Scott Parker got it last year when being relegated with West Ham.

    Although I don’t feel like it is the end for Robin with us yet.

    Just another word on Stuart Pearce before I go off to do more work……what a front bottom! He has said that Jack Wilshere could be picked for Olympics because he isn’t going to the Euros.

    Stuart Pearce’s job should be completed in the best interests of each FA before his own pride. Picking Wilshere to play in the Olympics is not in the best interests of England going forward.

    Gareth Bale
    Kyle Walker
    Danny Wellbeck
    Daniel Sturridge

    Are all players that could go to the Olympics (the english lads as long as they are not picked in the Euro squad), why are we not hearing about them?

  108. MickyDidIt89 says:

    My last comment on Robin is that I agree it would be a bad move by the club and I do not want it to happen. I just think it will.

  109. Just had a thought, how do we feel about the fact that Shrek is now only one goal behind Robin in the race for the Golden boot on the back of so many penalties gained by Young’s persistent diving ?

    How many more games at Old Toilet left, and who’d bet against ManUre getting a few more dodgy penno’s for Shrek to convert ?

  110. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Serious question. Does the IOC still pretend on any level that the Olympics has any kind of amateur status, or am I way out of dte?

  111. goonermichael says:

    I think shrek will get it. He must have scored at least 10 pens though

  112. gunnern5 says:

    For the statistically inclined bloggers our EPL history in the final 3 games has been —

    W26, T14, L17.

    We have only won the last 3 games on 3 occasions in 19 seasons.

  113. goonermichael says:

  114. Red Arse says:

    Right, the Prodigal has returned. 🙂

    Not had a chance to read the Post or comments yet, but I might as well save time and cut to the chase!

    — Rockoo, I will love the Post.
    — TA , GIE and Dandan, I will agree with everything you said.
    — Micky and GM, I am sure you will make me laugh.
    — Rasper, I will disagree with everything you wrote!! Kidding!!
    — D98, glad to see you are back in the fold.
    — CharyB, I will send the Samaritans around for you.
    — GLIC and TerryM, — behave!!
    — Kelsey, I won’t understand a thing you said.
    — Peaches, You are still my heroine.
    — Everyone else, Hi.

    That will probably be pretty accurate! Now off to have a read!! 🙂

    This blogging lark is easy peasy!! 🙂

  115. Dannyboy says:

    Hey Fellas,

    Van Persie has clearly said that he will sit down with Arsene over a cup of tea and Jammy Dodgers so lets leave that to the two off them.I m sure we can talk about the Tories intention to Dump people claiming housing benefit in Newham council to Stoke on Trent.

  116. Red Arse says:

    Yep, I was right! 🙂 What a boringly predictable lot you are!!

    Actually, on a slightly serious note, 99% of the posters today are what could be termed ‘regulars’. Are we becoming too cozy or boring and frightening off ‘newbies’?

    Speaking of which, Dannyboy, I have zilch interest in British politics but I heard an interview on the car radio saying quite the reverse to what you wrote – so that should cheer you up. [you aren’t Gordon in disguise are you] ? 🙂

  117. goonermichael says:

    Just read that Denilson isn’t wanted at his loan club and is coming back. 😦

  118. GM – noooh ! Say it isn’t so.

    Redders – you are cheeky.

  119. Dannyboy says:

    RA.I m actually Red Ken.I hate the Tories with a passion.Social cleansing has been on the Tories Cards for a long time.It makes you wonder why the gates were not manned properly in the first place.
    Boris Johnson has been busy flirting with the bankers when people of london really needed him.The only legacy he will leave when he goes are the pay as you go Bikes which fail a cost benefit analysis.

  120. Nnaemeka kelvin ewah says:

    I tink de option 2 finish 3rd remain in de player 2 step up their game expecialy mildfild Ramsey does nt merit dat arsenal team they sud sell him or send him on loan i believe we will finish 3rd up gunners.

  121. kelsey says:

    For the regulars on here:

    Just spoken to dandan and also to mrs.dandan who i am pleased to say is feeling so much better..

  122. Rasp says:

    Hi RA, nice to have you back in one piece 😛

  123. Rasp says:

    Good news about the dandanclan, thanks kelsey

  124. Red Arse says:

    Hi Rasper, CharyB, Kelsey. 🙂

    Good news about Mrs DD.

    Off to have a snooze – I’m completely whacked. 🙄

  125. Dannyboy – what about the (soon to be privatised) NHS and student tuition fees? Hallmarks of an egalitarian outlook from our government.

    OK, I’ll stop there, this isn’t a political blog.

  126. Rasp says:

    The original student fees were introduced under the previous government (unless you happen to be scottish aaaarrrrrrrgggghhhhh) the present government just trebled them 🙄

  127. goonermichael says:

    red kan and boris are both twats

  128. goonermichael says:

    The present government trebled them after a recomendation from a labour appointed commision.

  129. LB says:

    Free bus travel for under sixteens…………..brilliant.

    London: a more bicycle friendly city………..brilliant.

    I can’t help it, I always look for the glass that is half full.

  130. LB says:

    By the way GM

    Is is ok to like Fabregas again tonight?

  131. LB says:

    Imagine a smiley face next to that comment.

  132. LB says:

    The second not the first. lol

  133. Raspers, oit was the lib dems election pledge to abolish student fees and then their desperate bid for power leading thme to allow the coalition to triple that got on my nerves Raspers.
    Then the tories promnised there would be no top down reform of the NHS – and they did exactly that, there was no mandate for either of those things.

    Still, I’ll say no more on politics. Wrong place.

  134. Dannyboy says:

    Chary. The NHS is beyond repair is has always been a nightmare for every successive gorvement.As for tution fees of around £10k a year thats a joke.The advice i give many propective Uni’ candidate is a go for professional qualifications eg Acca,Cima or Aat that way they gain experience and a qualification at the same time.Rather than leaving Uni’with bazzilion student debt.

  135. RockyLives says:

    @3.01 – genius 🙂

    Thanks for the dandanclan© update Kelsey – good to hear it.

    As for Denilson, I know we all fell very badly out of love with him, but don’t you think he could do a job for one of this mid-to-low ranking EPL teams who have trouble keeping possession?


    Boris,Ken, that libdem geezer, all idiots, i should have thrown my hat in the ring. I know LB will endorse me hehehe. My first manifesto promise is to let off a nuclear bomb in N17

  137. Hi all

    I’ve dragged myself from my sick-bed to remind all you lovely bloggers that we need posts for this week please …………………..

    As Rocky is around, I’d better go back and read his now 😉

  138. OK, one final political remark(promise) the incessant NHS changes are a big, big waste of money and pointless so why take funds away from patient care for meaningless re-organisations that put GP’s(who are profit driven sole traders/partnerships) in charge of public money for a public service ?
    Tripling student fees just goes to keep horrible, smelly “poor” people out of uni’s so they don’t lower the tone for the rich kids, whose parents are no doubt tories and won’t mind the increase and fits in well with any social engineering plans the tories are up to.

  139. Rasp says:

    chary, since the student only starts to pay back the money when they earn over a certain amount (around 16k I think) there really is no bias against poorer families.

    Actually it is the middle income group who are hit the hardest as usual. People on lower incomes get serious concessions whereas if you are just hovering above that you pay the full whack.

    Unmarried couples can get their kids in free by claiming to be single parents and there are loads of other scams that can help avoid paying the fees. My kids are among the poorest in terms of spending money in their peer groups and will leave uni with a combined debt of over £90k – not a great way to start your working career!

  140. goonermichael says:

    I have become totally cynical about politics. I used to go on marches. I don’t really care much now. I’d shoot ken and boris.

  141. Dannyboy says:

    Chary well put son! Terry now you are talking! How about introducing a compulsary Arsenalist subject in schools and i would swap the citizen test with a being a gooner test.Anyone who fails this is sent to Khazakstan.

  142. Stop it Raspers, I’m not going to rise to the bait ! Suffice to say most politicians are plonkers and I’d rather vote for the syrup man as I love his idea of eradicating the N17 swamplands.
    Something all right minded people should agree to. 🙂

  143. LB says:

    I vote for Terry.

  144. Agreed London, The Syrup man for PM !

  145. Rasp says:

    Haha chary, no bait intended. There is something fundamentally wrong with anyone who wants to be in a position to make decisions for other people (politicians) in the same way as there is something fundamentally good about people who want to protect the rights of others (philanthropists). The trouble is philanthropists never want to become politicians 😉

  146. I know Rapsers, I just don’t want to think about how on earth I’m going to pay for my 2 boys to get through Uni., sending them overseas for a degree may be the only option, the University of Kandahar for example.

    Anyway, have a major dilemma tonight about the Chav/Barca game – but I won’t be following it as I’m at an accountancy seminar in Enfield and won’t be watching.

    I wish they could both lose.

  147. RockyLives says:

    Barca will have nobbled the ref to make sure there are no slip-ups tonight.

    I imagine the ref will take the same approach as the Swiss tw*t who put us out by sending off RvP: namely, he’ll book a lot of Chav players in the first half, then send one off early in the second half for some minor offence.

    If he’s smarter than the Swiss bloke he’ll at least save the second yellow for a foul, rather than doing something as obviously corrupt as the RvP dismissal.

    I bet all Micky’s newly-acquired LB belongings that the Chavs have had at least three players booked before half time.

  148. Rasp says:

    chary, what time are you finishing your seminar in Enfield, we are just around the corner and can offer you a beer and comfy seat if you want to join us


    LB, Ime genuinly sorry for ranting off on you the other day about Ramsey. Reading through again i realise you were just trying to make a point about were you think the boy will end up playing. To make it up to you once i am elected it will be my pleasure to give you the opportunity to pull the trigger on the N17 Bomb.

  150. RockyLives says:

    Terry to be the Mayorcini 🙂

  151. Gooner In Exile says:

    Bloody ‘ell i came here to talk football not for a lesson in communism 😀

    NHS reform = good, have you seen the amount of administrators in a hospital casualty unit? I went in with a sliced finger, needed glue and a bandage, 10-20 minutes top. Instead I had to give my details to someone behind reception, then see a triage nurse, then see a doctor to glue my finger, total time spent in department 2.5hours, time interacting with staff 20minutes, 2 minutes with the doctor at the end. Less management more doctors, makes sense, same for schools (except more teachers).

    Uni fees = If it stops people going to university to do pointless degrees (arm photography or media studies anyone?) then its a good thing.

    Problem is Cameron and Osborne are allowing themselves to get beaten up by Labour over non issues which they are not explaining properly.

    This whole pastie tax for example is a farce. Hot food served hot to take away has always been vat’able. That Tesco, Greggs and others have managed to convince the Revenue that it was not being sold hot to be consumed hot and therefore should be zero rated is a joke. If i walk into Tesco and I want a Hot Sauasage Roll I go to get it from the “Hot Cabinet”, if i want a cold sausage roll I go to the fridge. The only thing this hot and left to cool thing should affect is bread just out of the bakers oven and left on a cooling rack.

    Back to football, come on Barca!

  152. jnyc says:

    My gut says robin more likely to stay than go, but nothing would surprise me i agree that we need to move very early on signings, re-signings, and unloading dead weight. I hope we are working already behind the scenes to facilitate this.
    pod is not good enough as an rvp replacement, but is an excellent second choice. If robin goes, we need a world class striker to replace.
    also need for sure a creative attacking central midfldr, rosicky needs someone to take the majority of minutes there, but he is a great second choice if thats how we use him next season.
    i feel like we need mvila from what i hear of him and though it would be a dream to have vertonghen, the team will consider that too much of a luxury, chelsea or city wont hesitate to pay a fortune for the luxury of a world class third choice cb.

  153. LB says:

    Excuse me, can I have my bike back?

  154. kelsey says:

    If ever there was a time for Chelsea to beat Barca it is now. I honestly think just one Chelsea goal would clinch it.Of course Barca will have the majority of possession but they are not firing on all cylinders at the moment, and even though they had many chances at SB and Chelsea managed one shot and a goal, i see it as a close game, so good luck to the Pensioners.They have a good record against them. 2-1 to Barca and Chelsea go through.

  155. I’m not due to finish till 9.15(starts at 7.30) Raspers, so I may catch the dregs of the second half.

    Thanks for the offer though.

  156. kelsey says:

    Football and politics don’t mix on a football site IMO it could get out of hand.

  157. kelsey says:

    politics in football is another matter.

  158. LB says:

    “Chelsea or city wont hesitate to pay a fortune for the luxury of a world class third choice cb.”

    This is very, very true.

  159. Gooner In Exile says:

    And on the Uni fees, the universities themselves have beaten themselves up over the whole fees issue, OxBridge Degrees are worth more than Middlesex Uni (I’m sorry they are ask a top employer on any recruitment drive), yet they are charging the same fees? Somethings wrong.

  160. RockyLives says:

    You seriously think Uefa/Barca will allow that to happen?
    Not a chance in the world. Sorry.

  161. Rasp says:

    I agree kelsey, I have a nasty feeling that the chavs will get throiugh tonight. To an extent, both Real and the chavs have worked Barca out although the chavs also needed a large slice of luck. If the chavs score they will win the tie.

  162. Off now -see you good folk next time.

  163. LB says:

    I have no time for the Catalans but Chelsea must be stopped at all costs from winning the CL……… must remain Arsenal’s destiny to be the first London club to do that.

  164. Rasp says:

    I second that emotion London 😕 but it would be great if the chavs got through and lost narrowly in the final only to see us win it next year don’t you think – especially as they’re now unlikely to make top 4

  165. RockyLives says:


    I wanted to be an anarcho-syndicalist.

    But because I was dyslexic I became an anachronistic-sadist instead.

    I torture people with medieval weapons.


  166. jnyc says:

    And just a thought, i was really impressed last summer when atletico madrid sold aguero for over 30 mil, then turned around and spent it all on falcao.
    if the worst happens, and rvp leaves, what do you think about that? I think our style of play needs a great striker (??) and a very good second choice(podolski?)
    who would you want as the new main man in this case?

  167. RockyLives says:

    Great if it panned out that way… but given that we could still finish fourth, do you want to be watching the CL final knowing that if the Chavs win not only will they be the first London club to win it, but also they will take our CL pace for next year…?


    Its not right that Chelsea win the CL. Its the one thing that Abramovich craves more than any thing else but yet his money has not been able to do it. The silly wanker would just put it on display next to some flash piece of art to show off to all his rich friends and cronies.

    Besides, ime a jealous git, and Arsenal should be the first London club to win it, not some low grade tossers from west london, who if it wernt for Abramovich would be playing in the 2nd division.

  169. Rasp says:

    Don’t get me wrong Rocky, I want Barca to win tonight and to lose in the final to Bayern, I just have a gut feeling that the chavs will get through. I have considered your nightmare scenario and for that reason I think 3 points against Stoke is imperative.

  170. LB says:

    Too risky Rasp, better they crash and burn tonight.

  171. Dannyboy says:

    GIE 100% spot on Middlesex uni,Metropolitan uni< Oxbridge dispite paying the same fees.I feel sorry when i see these students walking to Middlesex Uni in the pouring rain when their degree is worthless.Must be a prestige thing though.

  172. TotalArsenal says:

    My prediction is 4-1 or 5-1 to Barca, with (if necessary – as I fully agree with the Rockster that the referee will want to repay on his wonderful treatments last night) or without help from the referee. Losing is not nice for anyone and Barca just lost two games in a row. This is their chance to turn it round and to beat Madrid in the final (if they make it through against Die Lederhosen which is not a foregone conclusion at all). Can you imagine how motivated they are tonight to blast the bus parking Chavs away?!

    This is not what the Cesc-haters want, but I will enjoy every minute of it. I loath the Chavs and every year Abramovitch misses out on the CL again, despite all his immoral investments, is one to celebrate. Cesc to score a brace tonight! 🙂

  173. kelsey says:

    I also don’t want Chelsea to win the CL, but IMO they have a very good chance on this game.

    I keep thinking of that 0-4 defeat against Milan, how did that happen, have Milan ever played that well again this season.but for that we could have been in the semis with the right ref, of course.

  174. RockyLives says:

    Serious question…

    If the Chavs won the CL but finished outside the top four in the EPL, would they get the third automatic place (as holders), leaving the team that finished 3rd in the EPL to contest the pre-qualifying round.

    Or would they just be put in the pre-qualifiers instead?

  175. Dannyboy says:

    Rasp.The chavs will find the Nou camp too big to park thier team coach so i expect them to lose by a milestone.

  176. Dandan says:

    As someone who has had to battle big time with the Nhs in recent months at a brand new hospital with three closed wards, (can’t finance them) then having to produce passport and utility bills to prove we belong. Whilst a very sick lady is kept in the emergency short stay ward due to lack of beds and waiting a week until a specialist sees her,having already been sent home once in the middle of the night. until I decided enough was enough took her back to hospital and got her readmitted and diagnosed. The rest most of you know.

    You will not convince me that local management ie Drs can do any worse.

  177. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Wow, what lovely people you get working down the pawn shop.

  178. Dandan says:

    By the way I am sorry for that…Kelsey is right there is no place for politics on here this is a football blog and should be kept as such

  179. Rasp says:

    I can empathise Dandan, the Police are similarly overburdoned with bureaucracy and paperwork – and their obsession with penalising motorists

  180. Rasp says:

    Hi Dannyboy, I sincerely hope so, a serious tonking of the chavs would make my evening – but Drogba will score so I think it will be tight.

  181. The good news. Under PM Terry ( I`ve just read his Mancinifesto ) all men will be given a free pair of Lesbian Au Pairs. 🙂

    Bad News, Mrs glic has Osteoarthritas and I now have to do all the vacuum cleaning. 😦

    PS, Whats a Vacuum cleaner ?

  182. RockyLives says:

    If the Chavs go out tonight, they’ll also have to up their game against the Barcodes if they’re to have any chance of sneaking fourth place. Which will be good for us.

  183. MickyDidIt89 says:

    The nice lady down the pawn shop would like me to say that they pay good money for family sized motor cars, good bikes and London based homes. No paperwork required.

  184. MickyDidIt89 says:

    High risk, but enjoyable strategy, is wanting Chavs to go throw and lose on penalties in the final. Low risk, with still much fun to be had, is a good old fashioned thrashing tonight.
    There is no way another London club can get their hands on ‘Ol Big Ears before us.

  185. MickyDidIt89 says:

    go through

  186. Greetings one and all.
    Great to see that David Rocastle can inspire such exquisite posts.
    Congratulations to RvP, and well done on showing the watching cynics that you are truly world-class, even when playing out of position!
    My over-riding feeling for the season is that with a bit more care and attention to detail, the Premier Lge and Champions Lge would have been ours for the taking.
    If AW is intent on sticking with the 5-3-3/5-5-1 (GK inc.), I’d love to see real wingers like Adam Johnson or Aiden McGeady, who can give us a different dimension. We really need someone who can run at opposing defences to cause them fear and panic.
    If Diaby stays fit, we are spoilt for choice in central midfield with Arteta, Coquelin, Diaby, Frimpong Ramsey, Rosicky, Song and Wilshere. Maybe Ryo Myaichi and the Ox are the answer down the flanks.
    In the Summer, I’d like to see a good, dependable back-up for Szczesny, a more defensive-inclined left-back, and a creative AM/Winger.
    The defence should be built around Kos, who has been our rock at the back when all else failed.
    Other than that, we’re in pretty good shape.

  187. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Have you seen anything of Myaichi this season at Bolton? Is he ready?
    I’ve heard only brief, but good, reports.

  188. Hi MDI,
    same here, it must be quite difficult for him, apart from the obvious cultural issues, with Bolton struggling for survival. I’m hoping Myaichi’s spell at Bolton has the same effect for us as JW’s did.
    If the Ox is ready, Myaichi should be, but it’s based more on hope than any concrete evidence.

  189. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I’m convinced Ox will end up centre midfield as I think he has everything. Moses is a player who impressed me, and like you, I think we have really lacked penetration down the left.

  190. MickyDidIt89 says:

    We need to have the left sided conversation quickly before one of the lunatic fringe appear and tell us Podolski will play wide left 🙂

  191. RockyLives says:

    Micky, 3RCs
    From the clips I’ve seen of Ryo he looks an out-and-out winger. With quite a bit of EPL experience under his belt he could be a real addition to next year’s squad.

  192. RockyLives says:

    Of course Podolski will play wife left too.

  193. In one half, the Pod will be very wide on the left. In the other half ,he will be very wide on the right, Tactical switching ? ,no , he will have been sitting on the bench ! 🙂

  194. Gooner In Exile says:

    Remember earlier in the season when our threat came down the left? A fresh legged pre ACN Gervinho was the outlet whilst Theo was the vent to many fans frustrations, it was also no coincidence that the ball only went right when Gerv switched wings.

  195. His wife has left him ?, aaahhh poor Poddy !

  196. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Great news Rocky. Exactly what the doctor ordered.
    Not sure which bit about culturally alien being at Bolton you were referring to, but it worked wonders for Jack as you say.

  197. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Have to pop out and take a few pens against my son.

  198. goonermichael says:

    I think the chavs will win and cesc will cry

  199. gm,
    Have you got a new name for RVP if he decides to leave of his own choice (being sold by the BoD does`nt count ) ?

  200. robbinURpersie says:

    No Chance of Farca losing at the nou camp after a horrid first leg that they could have won 4-1 on that night and especially after gifting the la liga title to madrid in a loss at home…

    oh the shame..the fans will demand a win.

    F**K, im even sure that the ref will demand a win for Farca..

    but they will all cop a shitload of bruises from fat fwank, terry, drogs in a last ditch effort..

    its all CESC, drogs and rock n roll..(ther will be red cards IMO)

    ps. another classy write up Rocky, thanks mate

  201. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Rain stopped play 😦

  202. I like that 2nd to last line robbin. 🙂
    Come to think of it, if CESC was roggered by his Dad, that would be INCESC wouldn`t it !.

  203. MickyDidIt89 says:

    GliC 🙂
    Do Barca have Villa back, if not, whose their main striker?

  204. MickyDidIt89 says:

    whose? oh dear

  205. Micky,
    Everyone but the goalie !

  206. robbinURpersie says:

    gGLiC 🙂

    his eyes do seem abnormally close together or does the mono brow make for optical illusion..

  207. robbinURpersie says:

    its gonna be a very MESSI night for Roman AbramoBITCH

  208. MDI,
    only from the perspective that he hasn’t been in the country that long, and there are a few cultural differences between London and Bolton.
    Thanks for the update, RockyLives, hopefully he’ll be the answer down the left. If, as MDI says, the Ox plays centrally, it will mean a tweaking of our tactics.
    Myaichi starts against Villa tonight.


    Why do sky persist with those 3 mugs as supposed experts? Sourness tactical aproach is get at them and if they get at you then get at them again, if that dosnt work kick them in the goolies and get at them. Rednapps just there coz he looks good but generaly talks shite in a stupid squeaky voice. As for Hoddle, his strategy is have a group hug in the changing room lasting 15 minutes, followed by the path of spiritual ecstasy only reached through harmonoius esoterical energy propelled by his big ugly head.

  210. Terry 😆
    That sums it up quite well !

  211. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Nobody teaks our tactics better than me 🙂
    Once Barca have knocked five past Chelsea, I might switch over and watch the second half that game and see Myaichi.

  212. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Right. Off to join some wires together and hook up the laptop. Back for a half time cuppa.

  213. Have to agree MDI, I liked the fluidity of your 3-5-2.

  214. robbinURpersie says:

    sorry to interupt micky and 3RC,

    one example of the differences that i noticed was that when he won man of the match in (i cant remember) that game..he refused the bottle of champers..the legal drinking age in Japan is 21..he didnt even want to smuggle it and say it was for a team mate..

    but imo he will get many bottles in the future

  215. The BBC have pissed me off, My Wife`s extra income as a celebrity look-a-like has nose dived since they killed off Heather Trott from East Enders. 👿

  216. robbinURpersie says:

    damn, the curse of the refresh button

  217. Shit, I forgot she reads my stuff on here, quick remove my last comment ! 😥


    Cornwall, this is cruel but i cant lie, everytime Heather Trott apeared on screen i had to avert my gaze, i just couldnt handle it.

  219. Red Arse says:

    Hi and Goodnight all you lovely people! 🙂

    Got to flop out in recovery mode, but I have a message for Mr Total Arsenal before I depart.

    TA, I know you are really the Prime Minister of Holland, and I think you should stop entertaining us on AA under your Arsenal soubriquet, and get back and sort out your government.

    So, I don’t want to see you on here tomorrow – well I do, personally — but the Euro will collapse without your input!!!!!! 🙂

    Bon nuit mes amis, a demain!

  220. evonnethegunner says:

    Rocky – good post, cheers.
    One more pro – we have Chesny
    Con – our first goalie is Chesny

    Robin stays, I consider this the end of the matter.

    Come on you Cheats!

  221. robbinURpersie says:

    Night Redders

  222. robbinURpersie says:

    4-1 Farca

    what a formation 3-3-4..chelsea will need 2 goals to go through IMO

  223. Terry, what couldn`t you handle ? , the embarrassment of the `scope extending at a glimpse of Heather !. 😆
    Off to watch the game.

  224. Gooner In Exile says:

    Cahill off now a three man pile up of Drog, Pique out cold and Valdes laid up.

    Barca should already be 2 up.

  225. robbinURpersie says:

    piQue off…

    the last 2 games he didnt play-they lost

  226. evonnethegunner says:

    Where is all this negativity coming from today??? Robin leaving, Chavs winning and we not finishing 3rd! Pssshhhhh…honestly

  227. robbinURpersie says:

    now chelski are f**ked

    they have to open up

  228. evonnethegunner says:

    JT red carded 🙂

  229. Gooner In Exile says:

    And there you go, a red card for John Terry…quel surpris!

  230. robbinURpersie says:

    did we expect anything else..

    i see red i see red I SEE TERRY’s RED!

  231. Gooner In Exile says:

    To be fair he has knee’d him off the ball, well spotted by the linesman

  232. evonnethegunner says:

    Come on GiE, this red was well deserved

    How much time will Czech waste now?

  233. Slimgingergooner says:

    There’s your England captain folks!

    What a wanker!

  234. evonnethegunner says:

    Slim – wanker plays for Barca tonight

  235. Gooner In Exile says:

    John Terry has just summed himself up in one action and let his club down in the same instant.

    What was Ashley Cole saying about winning ugly? If i was going to lose this match I’d prefer to do it at least trying to outplay Barca

  236. Gooner In Exile says:

    Too easy!

  237. evonnethegunner says:

    See what I mean lads? Chavs lose big time, Robin stays, we finish 3rd. Happy days.

  238. robbinURpersie says:

    Roman- this is gonna get embarrassing!!

    i cant believe Bosingwa was the only defender on the bench.. RDM=Lack of experience

  239. evonne says:

    GiE – no fun watching rest of the game 😦

  240. evonne says:

    oooooh, game on!

  241. LB says:

    Not even I can enjoy this, it is a bit like watching a small kid in the play ground get the crap kicked out of him.

  242. Gooner In Exile says:

    Whats the betting Souness says “He was unlucky to be caught by the lino”

  243. LB says:

    What do you mean game on?

  244. LB says:

    When I first saw that red card, I was gob smacked, I thought all Rocky’s predictions above had come true.

    Then I saw the reply………………..Terry, what a tosser.

  245. dandan says:

    I doubt it was the lino caught him, he forgot there are refs behind the goal in CL

  246. robbinURpersie says:

    dandan, those four dicks never ever see anything

    they’re there for decorations only..

    it was the linesman who caught him

  247. Gooner In Exile says:

    Good point DD altho I doubt they would have been able to see it clearly so may have guessed. But whatever the correct decision was made for the most ridiculous piece of behaviour by Terry. Altho there may of course been previous that we didn’t see. But I doubt it, more likely JT thought he could slow him down and get away with it.

    By the way anyone worried the next time Barca come knocking it’ll be for Kozzer or Verm? There defence (all 2 of them) are woeful.

  248. evonne says:

    LB – the kid crap himself, but is fighting back! I wasn’t going to watch the second half, can’t wait now

  249. robbinURpersie says:

    GiE, i reckon they’ll put in a sneaky bid for Vertonghen and try groom him. But what you say wouldnt suprise

  250. dandan says:

    I wonder if JT will claim his foot slipped this time 🙂

  251. robbinURpersie says:


  252. dandan says:

    How they gonna make a Pizza advert out of that 🙂

  253. robbinURpersie says:

    This Barca team are “ARSENAL-Lite” .LoL

  254. MickyDidIt89 says:

    he he he

  255. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Useless that Messi bloke 😦

  256. robbinURpersie says:

    Messi OUT

  257. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Yeah right Terry

  258. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Anyone watching Ryo and Bolton?

  259. evonne says:

    Cuenca! I was sure his name was wanker, sorry

  260. Rob Lucci says:

    Van Persie > Messi

  261. Gooner In Exile says:

    Lol Evonne, i’ve thought that all night.

    Ryo got taken off at half time to be replaced by Kevin Davies….guess that tells you how McLeish felt Villa would best deal with young Ryo.

  262. Gooner In Exile says:

    Reckon Chelsea are going to do this now…..we will need 3rd.

  263. Irishgunner says:

    MIDI – Not watching it but it seems Ryo had a poor game and was taken off at half time.

    Chavs vs Cheatalona is proper comedy

  264. dandan says:

    nah they wont get past Maureen, no way

  265. robbinURpersie says:

    Messi looks a fraction of the player…hmmm, game seems odd on all accounts, lampard should be off for his scissor follow through

  266. Slimgingergooner says:

    Xavi reminds me of Ramsey, always slowing it down!!!

  267. Irishgunner says:

    Kinda funny watching them sweat – the pricks. Want them to score though c’mon Cheatalona

  268. robbinURpersie says:

    man of the match- P.Cech, top saves tonight

  269. robbinURpersie says:

    Torres just justified his 50mil…

  270. Gooner In Exile says:

    Wow……to be honest Messi never looked that confident in the last five or ten minutes.

  271. Rob Lucci says:

    Torres!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  272. evonne says:

    feck. night all.

  273. Slimgingergooner says:

    Oh dear, not good for Arsenal.

    Fingers crossed that Chelsea lose in the final or we will definitely need 3rd.

  274. dandan says:

    Did Cesc get what he deserved, some will say so

  275. goonermichael says:

    Oh cescy cescy
    he went to barcelona and he won fuck all

    How’s your dna now wanker?

  276. RockyLives says:

    It’s quite possible that our Arsenal boys will win serious silverware before either Cesc or Na$ri 🙂

    Well done Chavski. They rode their luck incredibly, but also fought so hard after that useless piece of crap captain of theirs got himself sent off.

    I’m just annoyed that it was the Chavs who get to play Barca when Barca are seriously out of form. For two years running we played them when they were more or less unplayable. Now even Messi looks poor…

    And I take back what I said about buying the ref. The ref had a good and fair game. Maybe he wasn’t as corruptible as the Swiss wanker who sent off RvP.

  277. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Agree with dandan. They won’t get past Maureen if Real get to the final.

  278. RockyLives says:

    GM 🙂

    The Chavs won’t win the final and we’ll get third anyway, so all is well.

    I had bad feelings about last weekend’s game against the Chavs, so I was relieved when we got a draw. I have good feelings about the Orc game: three points to us.

  279. goonermichael says:

    The chavs will have half thier team missing in the final captain racist , ramires, ivanovic.
    Priceless. geoff shreeves telling ivanovic he can’t play in the final.

    I’m really pleased for cesc. dirty little traitor. Nasri can show him his medal

  280. Irishgunner says:

    The chavs are without the racist, Ivanovic, Merelish, Ramires for the final – either Bayern or Madrid will take them

  281. goonermichael says:

    mareiles is banned too lol

  282. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Whatever happens to Chelsea in either the CL or Prem., I cannot see us getting less points from the last games than Newcastle or Spuds. So top four it is with Chavs I reckon.

  283. Rasp says:

    kelsey and I told you so 😆

    We have to win against the Orks now.

    The spud fans will be dissolving with angst after tonight. Most of them think they may scrape 4th and so the the chance of the chavs depriving them of CL footie after our season has ended will be too much for them to bear 🙂

  284. goonermichael says:

    I knew the chavs would win. the chaets are weaker with cesc. He’s a curse. We are stronger without him. We’ll get third.

  285. MickyDidIt89 says:

    There are just sooo many happy scenarios left in this season. Chelsea losing final. Spuds out of top four. Utd or City missing out on the Title 🙂

  286. RockyLives says:

    IF… the Chavs were (unbelievably) to win the CL, you have hit on the wonderful potential silver lining… that it means the Spuds lose out despite finishing fourth.

    Obviously it becomes even more imperative that we finish third…

  287. RockyLives says:

    Best scenario:
    We finish third.
    Toon finish fourth.
    Chavs lose in the final.

  288. goonermichael says:

  289. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Talk about tippy tappy football. Did remind me of watch Arsenal with Cesc and Nasri in the side.

  290. goonermichael says:

    The chavs will get beaten in the final. We’ll get third anyway. We’ll have as many trophies as one manc team and farcelona this season

  291. RockyLives says:

    The big difference was Messi. He has lost form in the last couple of weeks. When he’s on form he just runs through packed defences. Tonight it was like he’d borrowed Adebarndoor’s boots.

  292. dandan says:

    Will be a crap chelski side plays the toon’s

  293. MickyDidIt89 says:

    They’ll have all those players they won’t need to rest for the final 🙂

  294. MickyDidIt89 says:

    because they’re banned ha ha

  295. RockyLives says:

    So has Di Matteo got the job?

  296. RockyLives says:

    Good point Micky. That could be important for their Toon game.

  297. MickyDidIt89 says:

    It’s also unclear just now what will be the best result in the Chav Toon game. We may be safe in third by then, so it’ll be ensuring one of them (Toon hopefully) gets r stays above Totts.

  298. MickyDidIt89 says:

    This laptop is about to get sat on if it doesn’t start bloody spelling properly!

  299. dandan says:

    A total of 4 goal attempts in 2 matches bring 3 goals amazing

  300. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Just had a thought. If we end up with two bus parky teams in the final like Chavs and Madrid, it could be a stalemate with the teams never actually meeting in the middle.

  301. dandan says:

    Mickey its three days before the FA cup final against, Liverpool, they wont risk injuries for that one either

  302. TotalArsenal says:

    Micky, might as well go straight to penalties. 5 minutes final over!

  303. Irishgunner says:

    Hoping for Bayern to win it out

  304. What did the chavs do that was so fantastic? They scored one goal and parked their 10 man bus, no adventure just dogged determination not to let Barca through. They defended well as a group squeezed into a tiny area.

    What they did do well was take their chance to score the goal at the end of the first half with a ball over the top and a fast attack. Actually they did that twice 🙂

    What Barca need is Theo …………. but don’t tell them shhhhhhh

  305. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Wow dandan,
    Forgot all about that one. They are, technically speaking, ….buggered.
    Why not 🙂

  306. TotalArsenal says:

    What an awful night for football. Never should teams who play like that over two legs go through. Bah! 😦

  307. Hi Irish – how were the Back Street Boys 🙂 🙂 🙂

    Have you got time to put a petit post together for tomorrow by chance?

  308. Ade David, a Nigerian Gooner. says:

    Messi was a mess today.

  309. TotalArsenal says:

    Peaches, Barca could have done with a forward, one who knows how to connect his head to the ball in such a way it goes past the keeper – they were once again toothless upfront.

  310. Irishgunner says:

    BSB were great Peaches – had great fun.

    Can’t think of anything to write Peaches – me head has nothing in it, any ideas?

  311. …….. and I’m disgusted that JT should have been interviewed after the game. Lies, lies and more lies, he should be ashamed of himself and hiding under a rock.

  312. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I say sell them Robin. Then after the deal is sealed, bung Chamakh a few million quid to do a name change with Robin. Then stick Cham in a box and send him Spainwards.
    That’d learn the cheating bastardos 🙂

  313. TotalArsenal says:

    Yes Ade, that was a very average performance tonight by Messi.

  314. Irishgunner says:

    Geoff Shreeves 😆

    You’re not playing in the final, and you’re not and you’re not 😆

  315. Gooner In Exile says:

  316. TA – at least a Theo would have taken the ball to the bye-line as an alternative and cut it back into the danger area. Barca didn’t really help themselves did they, always looking for the killer pass – they must have seen how that doesn’t work for us 😳

  317. Micky – that is a brilliant idea, all we’d need to do is get Robin to start the gelled sticky uppy hair thing and we’re cruising 😉

  318. Gooner In Exile says:

    Just a point on Barca this great team with an unbelievable side they haven’t got a striker with Villa injured. Messi needs to run from deep and no one else is prepared to do the tireless work that Villa does from the middle of the pitch pulling defenders everywhere for little or no reward. And just exactly who were their subs?

    They will come knocking hard for RvP methinks.

    Not one game changer on the bench. If the biggest club in Europe (maybe the world) has only got a squad of 15-16 quality/proven players maybe we are not so badly off.

    The CL final is one week after the PL ends….we need 3rd place.

  319. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Robin, I mean Marouanne, would have to wander around looking a little lost and confused for the first game or two otherwise questions may be asked.

    Righty, its nite from me.

  320. Gooner In Exile says:

    At least he knows it.

  321. Irishgunner says:


  322. TotalArsenal says:

    Peaches, I am really happy to hear you talk about Theo like that. And you are right. I have never seen a team cross the ball so much from the wings to the area in front of the D, where the Chavs were waiting with their slimy wall of football destruction. It was painful too watch.

    Looks like Guardiola will take a break now – who will they go for next to get back their ooh lala footie?!

  323. goonermichael says:

  324. goonermichael says:

    Cesc’s diving has improved

  325. Irishgunner says:

    Peaches – I can honestly think of nothing to write 😦

  326. TA – and they say we’re predictable!!!!!!!! There was so much space behind the chavs and they hardly exploited it.

    GiE – good point about them not having anyone to work off the ball to pull defenders out of position.

    That tweet from The Ox about being focused for the Stoke game made me laugh – it’s going to be Rasp’s mantra for the next few days.

  327. Don’t worry Irish – if there’s nothing there then there’s nothing there 😦

    All you late nighters, we need a post for tomorrow if you can think of something ……..

    it can be about how JT should under no circumstances ever wear an arm-band again for the chavs or England ………..

    or Is Ashley Cole the England captain in waiting? ………..

    How good does it feel that we played the chavs last weekend? ……….

    Would we have polished this seasons Barcelona off?………………

    or a topic of your choice ………………

    Paracetamol just kicking in, off to bed …………………

  328. Gooner In Exile says:

    Peaches I am on the post case, there will be something there by morning.

  329. goonermichael says:

    Well done GIE. I was tryimg to rustle my brain cell but it was having none of it.

  330. Irishgunner says:

    I’ll have a think all day tomorrow and see if I can come up with something for Thursday if needed or see if it can be put into drafts if needed in future

  331. Gooner In Exile says:

    goonermichael says:
    April 24, 2012 at 11:10 pm (Edit)
    Well done GIE. I was tryimg to rustle my brain cell but it was having none of it.


    I look forward to your next post the first was a pearler. Its a shame at the moment there is nothing really to get our teeth into. No gossip, no dressing room bust ups etc.

    I suppose we could just have a “Lets All Laugh at Tottenham day” 😀

  332. Gooner In Exile says:

    Oooh Bolton beat Villa tonight, could Big Eck relegate both Birmingham sides within two seasons, thats impressive!

  333. Gooner In Exile says:

    Actually I’ve just looked at Villa’s run in, and whilst they have difficult games against Baggies and Canaries, they have a home banker against Spuds so will probably stay up with those 3 points guaranteed.

  334. goonermichael says:

    Thanks GIE. Doing one was a huge effort for me. I could send some pictures of haircuts. That’s not the same though I suppose 🙂

  335. VCC says:

    I,m so pleased that Chelsea have beat Barcelona. Diving Fabregas did not pay off.

  336. RockyLives says:

    Did Cesc dive? Looked like a pen to me but I only saw it once.

  337. henrychan - indonesia says:

    I’m glad Barca lost.. It’s all about Karma..

    I just can’t forget last season UCL game with Arsenal in Noucamp that referee give a nonsense redcard to RVP.. With all respect I think UEFA is doing discrimination and always there for Barca..

    Almost all games with Barca we see diving, redcard and pinalty.. I like the idea of Wenger to punished divers with 3 time out of games.. Barca players except Messi is ‘divers’.. hehehe.. (Cesc is also learn how tobe a good diver)..

    And friends.. no need to worries to much about Chelsea.. We will sure in 3th place.. And Chelsea will not win the UCL.. We will get that next season.. Go Gunners..

  338. kelsey says:

    One couldn’t have written a script for the way the game panned out.
    I wonder how much more we would have got if Cesc had stayed one more season ?.
    We have to concentrate on ourselves and just win the next game and then the next.
    I agree the momentum might increase for RVP to be tempted but football goes in cycles and maybe barca have peaked.

  339. Gooner In Exile says:

    So my guess is 7 points is needed to guarantee 3rd spot. Will be great to start that with a win on Saturday. That would put us on 72 at seasons end and safely in 3rd.

    Newcastle will do well to get 9 points from their remaining games.

    Spuds maximum is 71, and Chavs is 70 (and Chavs play Toon so something will have to give).

  340. Gooner In Exile says:

    Kelsey watching Barca last night and seeing players being brought on it certainly looked like a squad rebuilding process may be in order.

    That side were a shadow of the team that beat us and ManUre last season. What surprises me the most is that Guardiola has changed a formation that has been ingrained on every player coming through the club. 3-4-4 was always going to leave them exposed, as soon as they got the second any other manager (except Wenger and Pep) would probably have switched to 4-5-1.

    What I don’t understand the most is that John Terry is allowed to say “It doesn’t look good on the replay, anyone knows me knows I’m not that kind of player”. Sky pundits lapped it up. But most of us know he IS that kind of player, and that it doesn’t look good on the replay is not really an excuse, the replay proves you are that kind of player because you did it! I thought it was Luiz that was controlled by a Playstation controller.

    As for suggestions of Cesc diving on first view it looked like contact, but Sky decided only to show the replay that made it look like it wasn’t rather than the angle that showed (a very tiny piece of) contact. But I bet they would have showed that angle had it been Young or Bale. Unbiased they are not.

  341. Gooner In Exile says:

  342. LB says:

    Bah, slept really badly……nightmares that the chavs won the CL.

  343. LB says:

    Guardiola, what were you playing at?

    What was the idea of selecting the inexperienced Cuenca over than the World Cup winner Pedro.

  344. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Despite all their success, I’m yet to be convinced that Pep is that brilliant of a manager. It appears he is squandering his inheritance!

  345. MickyDidIt89 says:

    I would think 6 points would be enough. Even if Spurs win their game in hand, we’d still be three points better off.

  346. robbinURpersie says:

    morning all,

    Cuenca was brilliant, set up the first goal..that boy will be fantastic, technically he has got it but is yet to develop physically..

    Pedro has lost all form, dont be suprised to follow Bojan Krkic out the door..

    Had messi put away the 2 that cesc set him up with in the first half hr we would all be singing a different tune….just saying

    i have a prediction for next season…Your gonna love prince Poldi more than anyone else, in fact i reckon youll go out and buy the new strip with his name on the back..

    I rate him, i really do..he is made for our formation the way he plays for the German team (wide left in a 4-3-3) and his record is outstanding..Why does he play as a striker for FC Koln? um, i guess because they have always flirted with relegation and they have no one else to lead the line..He will be an Arsenal gem

  347. chas says:

    Great post, Rocky.
    I still think the hole left by Arteta is the crucial element left in the run-in. I’m hoping Monsieur Diaby can compensate.

    Superb day’s comments. I’ll have to give them a proper read some time later.

    Surely the chavs have used up all their luck for the next couple of seasons in one semi-final for them to go on and win it. Peculiar how losing both centre backs made no difference whatsoever against a team like Barca.
    Just imagine, no Terry, no Cahill, no Ivanovic against Gomez or Benzema. Sideshow Bob, your big moment has come.

  348. robbinURpersie says:

    “must kill BARTzema”

  349. LB says:


    I must admit I have not been following Barcelona too closely recently so if you say Pedro is out of form then fair does. But the possibility that Cuenca might turn into a great player in the future really has very little to do with anything. I was refering to last night. It is true that he set up the first goal but he was a rabbit in the head lights during the second half and that was when it really mattered.

  350. LB says:

    Morning Micky

    Yep, I agree with that.

  351. robbinURpersie says:


    Fair call on the 2nd half..i dont think anyone expected such a fight from 10 men, least of all Pep..done and dusted, any other day it could have been 7-1 to the other bad guys..but when you see Torres defending at left back and then scoring on the counter, chelsea will say it was theyre game plan and they got the job done..

    mind you, it would have been the same for us had Nik B held his nerve at the camp’s a beach!!

  352. evonne says:

    morning all 😦 LB, I woke up at night a few times and got that down, down feeling that something was wrong; and then I remembered Chelses. I am really not happy about it. bloody Fabregas curse

    Grant Nicholas from Feeder has just announced on BBC news he’s a Gunner, good man, will buy his new album

  353. evonne says:

    Now I have a real dilemma, Real or Bayern? I don’t care as long as they can finish off the chavs. Real then, Maureen knows how to play them and it would be a nice gift for Abramovitch from Jose. Come on Real!!

  354. goonermichael says:

    Guardiola is an untested manager. He is managing a team that was mostly already there and He has the best player in the world. Scolari won a world cup. At the time a lot of people said anyone could have managed that team to the WC. When he managed the chavs he was rubbish. I think pep would struggle with creating a new team on any kind of budget.

    Still laughing at cesc. He looked like he dived to me.

  355. Morning evonne – thats the spirit ‘Maureen knows how to play them and it would be a nice gift for Abramovitch from Jose. Come on Real!!’ 😆

  356. goonermichael says:

    Morning Ladies
    Real aginst a chav team without terry, mierelles, ramires and ivanovic will be slaughter. I’d worry about Bayern though

  357. evonne says:

    GM – normally I like you, a lot, but lay off my Cesc PLEASE. He was brilliant for us, he gave us his very best years and he has done no wrong. He wanted to go to then the best club in the world, the club wanted him, what’s wrong with that?

    I bought a lovely red frame for the great snap of Theo from you, framed it and hung it BELOW Cesc’s picture. now I told you 🙂

  358. evonne says:

    hi peaches, how are things at the Nothall hospital?

  359. LB says:

    I obvioulsy still have a soft spot for Cesc but I do feel that GM offers an important counter balance, after all he does now play for that team with a silly stripped shirt.

  360. evonne – you just love that Cesc don’t you 😆

    Cesc and a full season of Robin would have been wonderful. Still the gods may not have given us a full season of Robin if Cesc had stayed ho hum – all in the lap of the gods ………..

  361. Morning LB

    evonne – puppy doing really well, I’m still shoving in the paracetamol when required. Lovely weather for ducks 😉

  362. LB says:

    Now throw Arteta into that mix…………

  363. LB says:

    Morning Peaches.

  364. Oh yes 🙂 cos Arteta was a replacement for Jack wasn’t he ……. OMG I could cry at what could have been 😦

  365. Yeah but being realistic, we wouldn’t have bought Arteta even with Jack’s injury if Cesc had stayed ……………… IMHO

  366. evonne says:

    Peaches – yes, I love Cesc and always will. And I am gutted for him, still no trophies in his cabinet; such a talented player, one of the best midfielders in the world. GM – look at this way, all the scum from ManU have cabinets full of trophies and Cesc only has the national cups, do you think that’s fair?

    Poor you and puppy really need some sunshine, i have ordered some for tomorrow

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