Before we begin, may I firstly explain for the benefit of those of you not fluent in Swahili, that the title of todays’ post translates as: “No more worries”. The reason is simple. I have unearthed the solution to all our problems.
Let’s crack on. Right now we are third, but frankly it’s an only just, and that is because we have not been stretched by long runs in other tournaments and we have had an injury free season from our star pupil. To improve on this situation using the same formation, I believe we need more effective wide boys, and an improved back-up striker. This poses a number of problems. The back-up striker cannot be better than Robin, and while he must be an improvement on the current benchers, he still needs to be good enough to challenge Europe’s best defences in the event of a Robin injury. Improved wide boys will cost and present the same pecking order issues.
As if this is not enough of a headache, I would like us to play two strikers. Bad news: I say 4-4-2 not sexy enough. Good news: we can now buy a world class striker to play alongside Robin and this will make Robin happy while we the fans will see more goals.
Even better news, I know how we can adapt the system AND afford the new personnel. We invade Spain and grab a striker, then switch to 3-5-2.
Oh do stop rolling your sodding eyes and hear me out. I’m the bleeding expert here. Jeepers.
Look, due to the financial turmoil in Spain, the Telly Companies are offering 50% (tops) of the current fee they pay for Football Rights, and to make this situation even better for us, the top rate of tax is about to go through the roof. This means wages are going to be a massive problem for clubs. So, we get Benzema. Simple.
Now the 3-5-2. Brazil and Argentina won World Cups using it. Juventus are top of Serie A using it. And if that’s not convincing, Wigan use a version also.
Here’s the really good news. It will be a whole lot cheaper than bringing our current system up to scratch. Mert looks crocked, so my guess is he’ll be off. There is talk of Vertonghen. Guess what, the missing piece in our super footbally back three. He’s six foot, two and half inches. So he plays in the middle.
We no longer need new wide boys, and we certainly don’t need your M’Vila’s, as the DM role goes out of the window. Hooray for that.
(Changing tack for a moment, I’m watching the Bayern Madrid game as I write this. If I was the Ref, then before I blew the starting whistle, I’d jog on over to Ramos and show him a straight red. Save time. Just saying.)
Interestingly, I think all our Full Backs (Gibbs, Santos, Sagna and Jenks) are all better wide boys than our wide boys. They are also all better attacking full backs than defensive ones. In other words, they are perfectly suited to the 3-5-2.
Now the middle men. Again we are perfectly suited for this system. No more DM’s, just two good tackling/intercepting/footballing sorts and their back-ups. Jack, Arteta, Song, Ramsey and Coquelin. All completely interchangeable.
(Just back to this Madrid game. As the Ref, how about stopping the game in full flow. Walking up to Ronaldo and giving him a Red. “Ooooo, Weffewee” she’d say “what did I do?”. You could then just shrug your shoulders, roll your eyes about a bit and say “Dunno really. Just bored”.)
The middle man. Strangely this role becomes less pivotal than in the 4-3-3. In my little layout, I’ve put Ox centre. That’s because I like him and I’m in charge. However, here again, we have options. Rosicky and Diaby.
Up top, we have back up in Theo and anyone we can’t flog out of Bendy, Cham, AA and Gerv. We like our books to balance, Benzema won’t be free, and Robin needs a fatter envelope. Sorry, that’s life.
Finally, the great thing about this system is that it’s brilliant.
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Brilliant in its obviousness. Wish I had thought of it myself.
Wow, a auperb response already. Wise bloke.
Perceptive brilliance as ever Micky 😛
Only one problem, we’re not going to buy Benzema. 2 reasons, he’s happy at Real and we won’t pay the money so you’re going to have to play Robin van Podski as your front two.
Everyone shouuld be very happy if we get Vertongen as he’s in the mould of koz and TV and would allow us to play 3 at the back if AW was to change the habits of a lifetime.
hahahahaha brilliant Micky, bloody brilliant.
Even better when you think about Vermaelen surging forward leaving us with 3 players in our defensive half (szcz,vert, and kozzer), but hey why not when kozzer is that good! Plus your Micky, and your in charge haha
Much to ponder whilst I drink some coffee.
Post must have been written by an ex-manager, possibly Hiddink or Ancelotti
Kweli nakubali kwamba hakuna matata. This weekend will epitomize our season. We’ve come along way and it sure would be bad if we couldn’t hold till the end. It will be interesting to see how the team will line up especially at the midfield. No benny, no arteta. The ac-milan home line up should do just fine though.
poetry in motion Micky
Brilliant thinking – but can you imagine Wenger changing his tactics? Not a chance! It was obvious after 5 minutes against Wigan that we had to change things but all we ended up with was a massed midfield getting in each others way and not a wide man in sight.
That was very brilliantly explained. An exposition of the highest standards only equalled by the legendary John Prestcock when he explained the workings of the award winning Devon Pasty, while punching some bloke on the nose.
Not to be too much of a party pooper, but there are 2 floors in this otherwise blissful look at what could be.
1. We won’t buy Benzema; we won’t pay the cash, and Real aren’t part of the 50%ers. They won;t need the cash.
2. Santos fitness won’t allow for this system. I’d have Gibbs; good attacking play but with a defensive mind too and will get up and down the wing all day long.
I’d also go for Rosicky over the Ox, because he moves the ball quicker. He and Jack would be a real handful!
As your short arsed cousin, Diddly Didit, said in a moment of sobriety, ummmm…………………..bugger – he didn’t say anything — oh yes “whoosh round ish it” and I second that!
Why explain the title, we have all watched the lion king.
Are you nuts! That wont happen in a million wenger years. What happens to Little Theo, Pacy Miyaichi, Prodding Poldi, Foxy Arshavs, Bonny Jenx or even Djorou? Sorry but wont do.
great post Micky to complicated for a hairdresser though. news on twitter is Arteta’s leg isn’t broken. don’t know how accurate that is though. I had another comfirmation that we have Podolski yesterday,
Brilliant John, thanks for your constructive appraisal of this masterpiece on footballing strategy 😕
Pretty unrealistic…Song is not the middle man, box to box creative CM?? c’mon!!!
i haven’t seen lion king
Top class Micky – very well written, and indeed deadly serious! 😆
I like your system and initially I could not find anything to argue against it.
Then I followed wise-man BR’s advice and made myself a coffee and did a bit of thinking. Now, if I were the opponent, I would tackle a formation like yours with strong wing play – doubling up on the left and the right whenever possible (ala Dortmund against us in our away game). It would force Santos and Sagna back a lot, leaving us wingless and narrow up-front. If they don’t help out it would leave acres of space to punish us from our wings. You could argue that Jack and Mikel could do the tracking back/supporting the wings, but that would leave a big hole in the middle, with only Oxy, who cannot do defensive midfield play very well.
But it could work really well with the right levels of pressing and discipline. There is no need though to buy Vertonghen as that role is made for Alex Song – he would fit into it like a glove. I would also consider Theo next to RvP in your system, but would not say non to Benzema. So your system could be cheap as chips and it might do the business, but I prefer proper wingers and a genius in the hole – and I think you do too. 😛
Having never seen the Lion King, thanks for the explanation of the title of the post.
Superb exposition of how tactical bowlocks should be progressed at the Arse.
DidIt to replace Sir Patrick Rice, why not?
I really hope Monsieur Wenger reads this blog.
This guy is a genie-arse.
The new formation is a trifle defensive for me, but that’s because I’ve always loved 2-3-5. 🙂
Stick Song in Goal and Put Ches up front – he could dress up as the goal keeper of the other team and catch the ball and roll it to RVP
It would certainly be a hi jinks team formation
You may or may not know this but Lion King was stolen from a Japanese animator. The story is the same and the main character has the same name. The case was heard in an American court and spielburger won (obviously)
Who’s posting as a DidIt RA?
I haven’t seen the Lion King either GM, but I do listen to my children 🙂
TA,
I hear you, but Utd tried the wide boys against a Wigan back three, and lost 🙂
Rasp,
Had a feeling you may say that about Benzema. Podolski would be fine 🙂
goonermichael – did you know that the Japanese animator based his opus on an early unpublished biography of one Nwankwo Kanu.
The main difference is that Kanu’s real life had more singing in it
Micky, there appear to be multiple imposters!
I’d take Benzema in a flash but I don’t think it is likely to happen.
I am very excited by the rumour (unsubstantiated) that we are interested in Hernanes – clever 2 footed, attacking midfield playmaker who scores goals – sound like anyone we know?
It’s conclusive then Micky! 🙂
Now you’re just being silly, D98.
We all know Arshavin is coming back to don the keeper’s mitts.
Rasp,
“Masterpiece on footballing strategy”. That’s funny 🙂
You started it Micky 😆
This fella’s meant to be good in goal, too.
Just for the record.
I am not suggesting this to be the system we should adopt at all times. What I am saying is that we should be more flexible.
If we are to compete in all competitions, and we will, different systems have many advantages. One is that they allow better use of the full squad as and when injuries crop up. Squad rotation in different systems cuts out the need for forcing square pegs in to round holes.
Chas,
That’s one of those five a side size goals surely!
Thank you Sir Micky, youve certainly gone and did it. If that team dosnt make one salivate, then theres something wrong with you. 3 Champions league and premeirship doubles in a row with that line up.
I dont know about any one else, but ive always suffered with insomnia, thinking about work, family etc. Ime sure youve all heard the term “count sheep”, well about 10 years ago i stumbled upon my own version. Every night i devise formations and tactics based on our current playing squad with the odd signing thrown in. This is a most pleasent and relaxing past time that will guarantee you a blissful night sleep, and the added bonus is that once in deep sleep you will continue to dream about your prefered line up and system.
The above comes with a warning however. You may find that some time in the night, with me its usualy 4 in the morning, you will leap ou of bed, arms raised screaming goalllllllllllllllll. This tends not to go down to well if you have a partner and can lead to much angst and turmoil in your relationship, so please bear that in mind.
Kanu’s real life had more singing in it, hahahahahahah.
Kanu, scoring goals since 1967….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcgxI2PUxrE
Chas,
Superb clip. Kanu is one of my all time favourite Gunners. Loved the bloke and his staggering skill.
The cheek of this human, he`s been sneekly watching us for years playing 9 lives-a-side, kicking furballs around our litter tray. Hope your feline good imposter !.
Yours sincerely,
Lionel Meowssi
Terry,
I thought the only thing that got you jumping and screaming at 4 in the morning was cramp in your telescope !
your dreaming if you think benzema will be at arseanl next season,simply dreaming
Cornwall, nahh, ime used to that. The Telescope is primed for action 24/7. hahaha
haha 98’s comments + Glic’s = fits of laughter
haha kanu and cramp in the telescope!
😦 The Evening Standard note that of the five Arsenal matches Arteta has missed through injury, Arsene Wenger’s side have fallen to defeat in four and drawn the fifth 😦
An impressive statistic Rasp. He has been immense for us this season.
Terry, do you were a sock over the top of your telescope so it does not get called in the winter (I assume you need to sleep sideways)?
MickyDidIt,
I am here to refute the totally scandalous suggestion that I am impersonating uncle DiditPoster. 🙂
Out of curiosity I clicked on the name, and not wishing to be a stool pigeon, I can only say there might be an antipodean connection. 🙂
TerryM, the only difference betwixt thee, counting sheep or calculating tactical strategies, and GIE, is (a) he never sleeps, but (b) when he does he is counting all his lovely fees, and promising Mrs GIE that he will take her to Honolulu, and hiring Red Arse to go as their guide! 🙂
Total,
I liked the poem last night, I too have one, can you guess who It`s about ?.
There was a man from Bounds Green
Whose Telescope was covered in cream
He looked to the stars
Uranus full of scars
In space, no one heard his cat scream.
after months and months of racking my brain about how Henri Lansbury can fit into our squad i’ve come up with a solution. Fabianski sorry you have to sit out of the 25. Szczesny is our number one, but Lansbury can be our number two! Heaven forbid szczesny got injured but hey he’s done it for the under 21’s and west ham now. Heck even west ham said he’s the new england number 1 haha. RA i did it!
Rasper,
You told me not to believe everything I read in the papers and, now I don’t know what to believe!
The worrying but incipient thought of TerryM in bed with his telescope is too horrible to contemplate. I think he should be banned, because it might not frighten Peaches’s mum, but it scares the crap out of me! 🙂
hahaha i’m in tears after that one glic
That’s very slick Glic! 🙂
Oz, 🙂
Do you want me to pass on another Aussie’s joke?
You note I am carefully distancing myself from it, because I shamefully fell about crying and laughing, in the Unit, while I was all tubed up, partly because he was a male nurse with a laconic delivery, and partly the laughing pulled the tubes and it sodding well hurt! 🙂
hahaha of course RA
Which one is Terry-Telescopic?
@ TA
the bloke at the end, he’s the one staring at the other blokes bum
Could be him OZ, or maybe it is the one at the front – I can well see Terry wearing white sports socks 🙂
Oz,
I hope I remembered it OK! 🙂
A young Aussie lad rang his new girlfriend’s door bell, with a big bunch of flowers, clutched in his hand.
She opened the door, saw the flowers, and smiled radiantly before immediately dragging him in.
She rushed over to the couch, lay down, pulled her skirt up, ripped off her knickers and said, ” This is for the flowers!’
‘Jeez, look, don’t be silly,’ said the Aussie lad, “You must have a vase here somewhere!”
Redders 😆
Hope you are feeling OK after having all the tubes removed but I bet you get some strange looks not having the bolts removed from the neck ! 🙂
baahhh, you lot think you can take the piss and offend Terry and hisTelescope with silly poems and wise cracks about socks and bums? I dont care what you lot say. Terrys Telescope will continue to reign supreme, and bestow pleasure and ecstasy to all who are fortunate to encounter its splendour.
Flowers in knickers? Only in Aussieland! 😳
TA, You are so innocent! 🙂
You will have to ask Oz to explain! 🙂
hahaha that is hilarious RA, i’ll be repeating that one a few times at uni tomorrow!
I hope it’s not to painful RA, i’ve agreed to do a colonic with the mrs soon, not sure the cleverness in agreeing to it but hey i’m a sucker for a pretty face.
@ TMHT
you sure the telescope doesn’t use those sockette’s with the pom pom on the heel?
Ghostly,
Thank you for your concern – and I had never given a thought to the bolts, which probably explains why people ran away from me screaming it’s Frankenstein’s monster and he has a screw loose! 🙂
rasp @ 9.55.
It not the “habit of a lifeime”
Wenger actually played 3 CBS and wing backs during his first season (96-97 – when he eventually turned up.
It was the title season 97-98 that he changed it up to 442.
Terry ,
I bet you look at it through the wrong end to make it look longer ! 🙂
@ TA
lets see TA how do i say this without getting in trouble?!
The girl ran out of boxes in the house…so she had to use her own
Sh*t Cheese it!
Oz, I am hoping for some Kolnic irrigation this summer by the name of super-Pod!
Before you go in, you should renegotiate your footie-together-time for next season…. At least triple it!
Ah, I see it now Oz, and the knickers are meant to decorate the box – I am fully with you now.
Gooner321 – thanks, I stand corrected.
haha very clever TA, i hope he delivers too!
You make a good point also. I’ll have to make the agreement before saturday as the early game means a cut short night together = in the bad books.
A mate had to get laser surgery in his colon to remove solid formations which can result in colon cancer. The result meant he had to take two weeks off work and re-potty train himself. The dr said a colonic every two years or so reduces the risk of individuals having to go through this
thanks GLIC for that flower explanation! I had no idea
Hang on a minute, we had Dixon, Adams, Bould and Winterburn in the 97-98 season – how was that a back 3??? – are you sure of your facts Gooner321?
‘Solid Formations’! Where getting back to Micky’s post now… 🙂
Well Simon Cowell (a TV ‘celebrity’ over here) believes regular colonic irrigations make his eyes sparkle more…
haha good point TA
@ Rasp + Peaches
you can count on me for a post next week
Thanks oz, it will be gratefully received – look forward to it!
Off-topic question for fellow AA-ers. I am looking into buying a leasehold business (cafe or shop) at the moment. Say, a lease has only got 3 years left and is owned by a third party – how do I protect myself from the owners of the property deciding to not lease it out any more when the lease ends/ or changing the terms dramatically?
Is there anyone at AA who has knows about this?
Micky you disappoint me, it makes far too much sense. I was sure you were going to go for
1-3-6
Shame on you.
………Szczesny……
…………Koz…………
Song……Wilshere…….Arteta
Theo….Ox….Pod….RvP….Verm….Santos
Who said men cant multi-task. The other day I was doing a landscaping job and It started to pee down, on seeing this, the young amorous married women said ” come inside , you can put yours tools away in my shed “. Whilst putting my “tools away ” in her “shed ” (which happened to be in her bedroom, I think you know what i`m saying 🙂 ) I had a text from my Nephew which read, ” I`m texting you, whilst driving and drinking a can of coke, who said men cant multi- task haha .
I text back, ” I`m putting my “Tools away in a naked womens shed”, watching sky sports , eating a sandwhich, doing a super tough suduko whilst keeping an eye on the window incase her Husband comes back and texting you, hahaha.
My Nephew text back , ” Brilliant, I cant beat that, Legend ! hahahahaha.
My Nephew then texts again, ” WHAT THE F**K IS YOUR CAR DOING IN MY DRIVEWAY ” !
Time to take tools out of shed and make quick exit !
Oz,
I had a colonoscopy about a year ago. That is not the same as a colonic irrigation, which is a bit of a fad for Princesses and the like.
I suspect your mate had the colonoscopy, which is to check on bowel cancer and other diseases, and the answer to whether it hurts or not — the answer is no, it does not hurt, it’s just uncomfortable, and altho the nursing staff don’t bat an eye, it is definitely wierd watching ‘progress’ of the camera on the TV screen. 🙂
Most people don’t like to talk about that sort of treatment, but it does help to prevent or detect life threatening diseases. In the UK, once you have had the treatment there is no need to go again for 5 to 10 years, once you have been cleared.
My current long-term treatment has nothing to do with that tho’! 🙂
TA it all depends on the wording of the leasehold, but usually commercial leases are up for renewal every x years and the intention will be on the landlords part to renew.
The question has to be are you buying the leasehold or the goodwill of the business (in reality it is the latter). As the lease is relatively short you should consider whether the goodwill is high enough to take trade if you had to move premises. My guess if a cafe/shop is no. Others may have differing opinions.
hahahahahahahaha bloody hell GLIC!
GiE, help me out. Did we play with a back 3 in the 97-98 season?
I dont benzema, podolski should be an option if rvp is leaving, dnt fancy d idea of two left legs as strikers. Giroud.Suarez of anderlecht, and AW is in charge so d formation does nt happen and we ve nt gotten rid of d fringes in our team
Rasp, he said 96/97
yeah he did RA, the diet leading up to it and the tablets he had the night before make for an eventful evening apparently.
I could imagine it’d make for some interesting viewing while that’s going on
princesses yes but even some sports who need to regularly cut weight (including UFC fighters) do it to shed a few kilograms
Here are the appearances for 1996/7……
Winterburn 38
Bould 33
Keown 33
Dixon 32
Adams 28
You are right GiE. The goodwill itself is difficult to move away from the premises and yet this is the biggest part of the price sellers are asking for the cafe or shop. It would only be worth paying for it if there is a guarantee I can prolong the lease against similar terms if and when it ends.
Screen print from youtube 1996/7 Forest v Arsenal
Linighan Keown and Bould playing
http://twitpic.com/9b8gkl/full
McGowan was playing as Dicko was injured.
TA. I have opened and closed many shops. All Leasehold.
What GIE says is spot on, you are not paying for a lease but goodwill, and the opportunity to take over a sought after A3 shop.
As to the business… my advice when working in Retail is Position, Position, Position. You can have the best cafe in the world but if it isn’t central, forget it.
Under normal circumstances you will be offered a new lease with an increased rental. Sometimes the 3rd party owner will decide to take over the lease themselves but this is rare.
As this is a non-football issue why not email me through Arsenal Nuts?
Bleeding brilliant post micky, love it!
Total, I’m not a property lawyer, so can’t say much that would help, but I know that one factor relates to whether the lease includes an opt-out from the Landlord and Tenant Act 1954. Where there is no opt-out, a commercial tenant gets better protection at the end of the lease than where the tenant has contracted out of the 1954 Act. To understand that and what you’re getting into, I’d contact a local solicitor and ask what it would cost to get an hour or two’s worth of advice.
Red Arse, hope that recovery is going well.
Thanks chas, but we had Dixon, Bould, Adams, Keown and Winterburn in the 96-97 season – did we really play with 3 at the back?
Bloody hell chas, I’ve just followed your link @ 1:43, and we did indeed have a back 3, humble apologies to Gooner321
Flippin West Brom tickets have sold out to 15+ away credits. Ant and me have 13. 😦
Thanks 26 and Raddy! Raddy I will take you up on your kind offer!
@ Rasp
hold strong yet, that picture is from when stuart pearce was caretaker manager, so therefore we do not have proof of Arsene adopting this formation
TA, 26 is spot on. Get your solicitor to review the lease. Assuming the lease is transferable and there is no opt out of the 1954 Act, you will be able to stay there. Furthermore,when the rent is up for review, the landlord cant impose a silly rent increase on you, it has to be at market vaule.
TA you will also probably find that the lease is reviewable upwards only at set periods anyway. My inclination if you believe that you have the get up and go to make it work, is to find an empty property,
( there are many about at the moment ) in a location you like, and start from scratch. The goodwill of small businesses like cafes and shops is usually in reality tied up with the owner/proprieter not the business. A popular local take away here has changed hands recently. locals have taken this as a sign to sample other places they have been reluctant to try while the popular local guy was trading.
Councils are desperate to drag businesses in to their area as it provides income, so a change of use should not be a problem. also the landlord of an empty business is probably having to pay at least half rates maybe more,and will be more than happy to do a favourable deal. Hope that helps.
Try this for 1996/7, Oz.
http://www.sporcle.com/games/Freddie/football-league-xis-arsenal
Thats very good advice dandan. It can work both ways, but you are genearly right that food outlets goodwill tends to be invested in the owner. A classic example of this was when one of my clients sold a thriving restaurant to another client of mine. He didnt do anything wrong per say, but lacked the charisma and business nous of the previous owner and ended up going bust. It is also comenly expected by restauranters that they will make a loss for a year or two, until they generate there own goodwill.
My advise Total is, open two business`s under one roof. One door into the knocking shop ( worlds oldest profession and still going strong ) , with another going into the Funeral parlour ( no relation to Arsenal legend Ray ). Client gets rogered to death ( make sure he pays first ), then straight into the funeral parlour ( this money will come from the executors, so you will have to wait awhile ). One for the price of two !. It`s a no brainer !.
thanks dandan/Terry. I am currently looking for business opportunities in the Highlands of Scotland, and I would love to find an empty premises that I can turn around into a successful cafe/shop. But, I have seen very few opportunities until now, other than restaurants for which I would need to pay a lot of (goodwill) money, before I can turn it into what I want. And that’s why it is important to me that I can guarantee the renewal of the lease.
Thanks again. Let’s get back to footie 🙂
GLiC, I could not live with the temptation! 😛
Not a good idea for a Teetotalism shop in Scotland !
Very true Glic, are you still doing delivering to the land of Orc?
cheers for that chas, that was fun. Missed out on two. Completely forgot Anelka and sylvinho. Wasn’t helped by finding out 5 minutes in that you don’t need to type in first names too haha
Total,
Highlands eh?
Raddy mentioned “location, location..”. The best restaurant I’ve ever been to (food, location, ambience) was on The Isle of Skye about 20 years ago. The Three Chimneys. Talk about remote, and yet its booked solid all this time on. Now that is what I call a good location.
http://www.threechimneys.co.uk
*deliveries
TA,
You have already had some good advice, above, and I can only add my two cents worth.
We are talking generalities here, without the actual documents to hand, but the way you phrased your question you were concerned about what guarantees you can expect concerning the retail lease extension and whether you can expect to pay the same rental with the extension. On the first part, the lease transfer/extension will be a matter of fact. On the second part, I doubt you will obtain a guarantee to pay the same rent, but that could be negotiable.
Anyway, that is pretty much a subject that requires a solicitor (26M 🙂 ) to advise you within the specifics of the extant lease.
GIE is however correct.
When buying the business, there are two issues for you to consider.
First is the question of the valuation of the business itself.
You will need to look at the turnover of the business, its trends and its profitability, and what is the valuation of the physical assets you will be buying, if any. These are straightforward valuations and can be affected by whether or not the ‘seller’ is disposing of the business out of necessity, or not. (A distress sale?). The lease itself will also have a valuation, but if there are only 3 years left this should be notional.
Secondly, goodwill can be a contentious issue, but is an accounting concept defined as the value of an entity over and above the value of its tangible assets. This may need some negotiation – but your starting point should be at base zero!! 🙂
The ‘legal bit’, above, can be tricky. Often when a lease is sub-let, the permission, as to suitability of the prospective tenant, has to be approved by the original landlord, but this will depend on the terms of the original lease.
The original lease will also usually set out not just the original period of the lease (99 years?), but also have a time line for break clauses (usually upward increase only) often setting a minimum increase based on bank rate [?] + a % uplift + a factor for the ‘going market rate’ of leases to similar businesses in the area.
Before committing yourself, I would recommend you (your solicitor) should get in touch with the main landlord and try to seek clarifications of those matters that will significantly affect your decision to proceed to purchase or not.
I once acted for a landlord with a multi-million pound property portfolio, but in reality I only liaised with the excellent in-house solicitors and kept an eye on the various tax issues and cashflow matters that arose — so I am of little real use to you!! 🙂
My advice?
— Don’t go into anything with rose tinted spectacles.
— Have a clear vision of what you want to do. Be sensible about what you are prepared to invest in the business both financially and with your own time.
— Adopt a realistic, hard-arsed approach and bite the bullet, get relevant professional advice! Good luck! 🙂
Yes Total, another delightfull 550 round trip tomorrow ! 😦
Micky, I know it. We rented a house not far away from The Three Chimneys two years ago. We did not have a booking though – a real shame! In Scotland – as in most places – it is all about reputation and there is a real desire for quality food/drink and service for which tourists/locals are prepared to pay AND travel.
550 *mile*
Total,
Find an Island off the West Coast of Scotland that does not have a Food Smokehouse. It must have good restaurants/pubs and rich sporting types who go there. Then open one.
If you want advice, I know everything about food smoking. I used to own one. Its great.
Sorry about my rather belated and irrelevant advice above TA, — I was cruelly interrupted halfway thru’ my deliberations, [don’t ask] 🙂 and did not see all the much better comments/advice you had already received!! 🙂
Wow RA, top stuff, thanks 🙂 I have been looking into it for a while and I have concluded that without rose tinted glasses I will never take the jump, but I know what you mean 🙂
Micky, that is an interesting idea! That is something I never thought about before.
Total,
You are right about the demand for locally produced quality food. Up there you have superb ingredients. For a smokehouse all you need is a shed. Start up costs are very low. A few stainless steel bits and pieces to keep health and safety happy and away you go 🙂
Redders,
Dont beat yourself up over it, I`m known for my sensible advise ! 😆
GLiC, 550 miles: it’s madness. Why are your customers not sourcing your bread/roles (?) locally?
Total,
If you do, you’ll probably find me on the next Island doing the same thing when I retire. I bags Mull!
That is the life Micky! 🙂 I can see myself resting against the shed with AA on my laptop, a good book by the side and a nice glass of whiskey with mountains in the background and golden eagles flying over my head!
I bags Rum!
Cornwall, 550 miles? Your business talents are been wasted. Fancy a partner in the Knocking shop/ Dead parlour? The only question is, which one of us is gonna do the rodgering? hahahaha.
Total,
From a business point of view, you’re attitude stinks 🙂
You would be great!
Total,
Bread/rolls, thats like saying Arsenal play hoof ball.
ChocolateFudge Cake, Chocolate & Marshmallow cheesecake,chocalate/orange and flake cheesecake, Strawberry Gateau`s, the list goes on…………..yumski 🙂
Rum, Muck and Eigg. Too small. I win with Mull.
I can see a good strapline in your last comment Micky!
Your food will never be dull with Micky’s smokery in Mull.
Terry,
You do the night shift, I do the day one. How about a name ?
24/7 Knock “em Dead. 🙂
Ok then, I’ll opt for Lewis!
TA,
My final, final word (and it won’t cost you a penny) is have a look at The Code for Leasing Business Premises, in England and Wales 2007, which you can find at the following link.
http://www.leasingbusinesspremises.co.uk
It sets out the whole procedure for the layman, in PDF format, and explains the terminology used, the tenant’s and the landlord’s liabilities and responsibilities etc and tips on how to protect yourself.
Read it — then go into a dark room and lie down until all the desire to buy a cafe/shop/restaurant leaves you for good!! 🙂
Now that is really my final word on the matter! 👿
Last comment on the subject. Last week on the West Coast of Ireland, I met a woman who moved there 20 years ago and set up a Smokehouse. She does mail order and now supplies some of London’s top Hotels/Restaurants.
Off now to work.
Is there another Arsenal blog like this 🙂 and the advise is all free.
Genius post Micky Morse Code
All our problems are solved!
I have urgently dispatched it by carrier tortoise to Mr Wenger.
Let the good times roll 😀
Kelsey
Regarding your question @3.13pm
I could tell you the answer, but it will cost you 20 quid…
So Robin went to The Marriott Hotel in Marble Arch to meet his friend Cesc before tonight’s game and The Daily Mail are writing as if a deal has been done.
RL,
luckily I have £sterling as the exchange rate just went up today to 1.22 euros to the £ which is a vast improvement of 1.05 twelve months ago, when as an ex pat you are changing currency.
Surely “my final word” is “word” ? ( ? is not a word, shit I`ve said more than final ” word ” )……….. ) is not a word either and in brackets doesn`t count. Word ( final one ). Wait a sec`, Final is the final word !………wtf…………final
Wish I had a business problem to discuss.
You guys are fantastic!
kelsey. Long way from 1.60 😦
Thanks for the code RA – really helpful! The combined brainpower, knowledge and wisdom on AA is phenomenal. What a site!
Damn you chas! I have moved from naming the Arsenal XI to Football League nicknames etc…..I omitted Gilberto (he really was invisible!), Kanu (sorry) and Grimandi.
This one is for Rasp. “Arsenal have not won a single league game this season when Arteta has not started” Thats given me the fear.
Micky,
You clearly have a penchant for smokehouses, but they are normally associated with smoky fish and are doubly smelly, aren’t they? 🙂
If I was going into a small business (and thank the lord I’m not, sir) the sort of businesses I would consider (sounds like a song at the Prospect of Whitby), would be in ‘safe’ products.
— People need food — cafes, restaurants — too tiring pour moi.
— People need beverages — small specialist brewery – low capital startup costs. Grants available?
— People love their animals — dog kennels — reliable income — low cost out of town site — mmm maybe.
— Import/Export — speaka da lingo, amigo? — Dutch? — arbitrage?
— People need jobs — Small employment bureau?
Now dats d way I would go, if I had plenty of time but limited capital!!
Mickyd@3.11 was this the smokehouse that Chamak was pictured having a bubble in last week 🙂
Another one for Rasp, but not 100% sure on it. Results without Arteta
Won 0
Drawn 4
Lost 5
Forget the fear, now ime cacking it.
As my old gran used to say Terry “its enough to make you tear your hair out”
If you buy a business. You will only be assigned the lease. The original leaseholder will still have the head lease. this is so if you go under the landlord can go back after the names on the head lease to get the rent. When the leaase runs out you are protected under the landlord and tenant act. the likelyhood fo not getting a new lease is very minimal. As Terry says they can’t go mental on the rent increase either.
dandan , We better not tell Kelsey then, it could get messy. hahaha
Now I`m cacking It aswell , chavs ( look at the effing bench they`ve got ), Orc`s, The combine harvesters and the baggies, we`re doooooooooooooooooooomed, I`m going for a pre- hide behind the sofa ! Zorro you bastard, why did you get injured ?
Afternoon tea at the Ritz today for my wife’s 40th. 7:30. I won’t have to watch a shit football match 🙂
Thanks GM 🙂
RA, I can see you running a dog Kennels!
dandan, terry 😛 😛
Happy birthday to Mrs Goonermichael! Hope you have a great night. 🙂
Hope you like cream cakes and Earl Grey Mike 🙂
BR, you like cooking food, I like serving drinks – we could open a restaurant together: fancy moving to the Highlands?! 😛
chas. 2.06 That was entertaining! I missed 5 which for an old bloke like me is tiptop
H 40 B Mrs GM
TA. Food is too hard work.
Rather run a dog’s kennel.
Sneaked off to the top chippy earlier, Plaice chips and cuppa, nectar of the Gods.
Changing the subject, slightly, I came across the following open letter that was written to a Dr Laura an old style blood and thunder religious shock jock host on one of the hundreds of radio shows in the US.
She seems to irritate people a lot, so I have ‘tidied’ it up a bit.
— Please do not read further if you are particularly sensitive to religious matters!
Dear Dr. Laura:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law.
I have learned a great deal from your show,and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of religious Law and how to follow them.
1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations.
A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not to Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
4. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death.
Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
5. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?
6. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
7. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
8. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by cussing and blaspheming a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone him? Lev.24:10-16.
Couldn’t we just burn him to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I’m confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.
Your adoring fan,
James M. xxxxxxxxxx, Ed.D. Professor Emeritus, Dept. Of Curriculum, Instruction and Special Education, University of Virginia
(It would be a damn shame if we couldn’t own a Canadian)
I have no knowledge of the show – anyone ever heard it?
BR, you can dogs and I can do cats! 😉
I missed Arshavin amongst others, BR.
Ooooops.
Happy Birthday, Mrs GM…..
Given the sandwiching of our game with Chelsea between their two Barca encounters, what’s our best result tonight? We do want them still in with a shout going towards the second leg, so I’m going for a sneaky 2-3 away win for Barca.
TA surely both those activities are illegal
It`s lucky I have my Cryogenic Jockstrap on Maximum, as the inuendo`s for my newly thought of franchise of, ” Drive through Knocking shop” would have put the moderators into Defcon 1 meltdown !, Ring donuts whilst your waiting Sir !
I have got a bloddy dog’s kennel already and they all belong to mrs.kelsey. It’s great being woken up in the middle of the night when one or another wants to go out for a wee or jumps on the bed at 2.A.M.and wants to play, and it costs a bomb.
Happy birthday to young mrs GM the fifth ;). A word of warning, my daughter went to Claridges in December with a friend and had a lemon tea and her friend a gin and tonic and it cost £30.00 including the compoulsary tip.
I have decided not to cut my hair until we win the CL 🙂
kelsey,
So from now on you will be known as Rapunzel ! 🙂
Thanks everyone. Tea is £50 each at the Ritz Kelsey 🙂
https://twitter.com/#!/wilshere_team19/status/192628515487744000
Chavski are 4-1 against to win at their home ground!
I bet he uses Wash’n’Go
That’s disgusting. There is no way the hair on the end is still attached to his head tough. I don’t think he should hold a record. Longest dreadlock maybe
goonermichael says:
April 18, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Thanks everyone. Tea is £50 each at the Ritz Kelsey
£50 for a cup of tea? Well thats London for you I suppose
Kelsey @ 4:33 – that’s the second most disgusting thing I have seen this week. Yesterday it was a flasher in the park, only mariginally more gross than hair
Rasp, please don’t remove my comment, it is honest to God truth
DidIt – I am sure you promised a serious post for a change? What happened to it? Today’s is very amusing, glad you changed your mind
You get cake and sandwiches with it GIE
GIE,
“Tea” includes sandwiches, pastries and bonbons, as well as pots of tea. Can be quite filling really —- not that I would know — obviously! 🙂
The Ritz and Clariges were ex clients of mine.I assure you if you went into the back entrance at Claridges (The Staff Entrance) you would never eat or drink there. The place is in a time warp and nothing has changed since it was built.
An agent up from manchester stayed one night at The Ritz and when he checked in at The Concierge he saw from the corner of his eye various cards and one said Visiting Massage. He discreetly put it into his pocket and headed up to the room.
He grabbed the phone and said” I want a young frisky blonde with big boobs and is game for anything”, to which the girl at the other end of the phone said “that sounds exciting, but i am the operator and you have to dial 9 for an outside line “
I thought you were a Caprice man, RA. 🙂
Luckily I don’t go into anyone’s back entrances Kelsey. Seb coe is on the telly now . Bet he does. Ask william hague
here’s a question. Are footballers allowed out late at night before a game ?
The reason i ask is that Saturday night a week ago Cisse of Newcastle was at The Brompton Club until 2.A.M. and then played at Home and scored (excuse the pun) on the Sunday against Swansea (I think it was Swansea)
my daughter’s friend works there and told her.
I think they can be fined for that Kelsey
I’ll spend an hour trying to do a Windsor knot now
Le Caprice is a very different type of establishment to the Ritz, Kelsey, altho’ they do a very nice ‘afternoon’ burger if you have missed lunch! 🙂 — not that I would know that either!
The Groucho Club is much more fun than either of them, whatever time of day!! 🙂 Not that I would know that either.
What would be your pick of the London establishments, Kelsey, — not counting the back door of Claridges, of course — why on earth would they make you go in via the rear (and I hope the award winning Ghost is not around!). 🙂
caprice is owned by Belgo now. The original owner used to come in to our place. I never go anywhere like that. poor hairdresser 😦
GM, a Windor Knot? 🙂
Hold the short end with your left hand. With your right hand, turn the long end over it twice, and then push it underneath, then over the top, before pulling down under the top twist. You do the Hokey Cokey and its all done. Easy Peasy! 🙂
In my younger days i bought a bottle of champagne at The Rtiz. Still paying it off.
I would like a score draw tonight with some dodgy reffing
Which one is left? is it the knife or the fork hand?
GM,
Caprice Holdings includes Le Caprice, The Ivy, Scott’s and J. Sheekey.
Do you mean Belgo the Belgian restaurant group? When did they buy Caprice Holdings?
Ages ago RA. The guy who owned it before has the Wolsey now.
GM, definitely the fork ‘andles! 🙂
RA
They bought caprice in 1998
http://www.alacrastore.com/deal-snapshot/Belgo_Group_PLC_acquires_Caprice_Holdings-195838
I don’t think they own it now though.
GM, not that it matters, but when you say “the previous owner” do you mean Johnson?
I believe you are right Belgo (Johnson and his group) did buy out Caprice Holdings Ltd but they in turn were bought out by Tragus Holdings in 2005, the current owners, which is what threw me. 🙂
You are beginning to make me plumb the depths of my limited knowlege, GM. 🙂
I thought The Wolsey was owned by Chris Corbin and Jeremy King, two entrepreneurs. Have they sold out?
No more quizzes – I am exhausted. 🙂
His name is Jeremy King. took me ages to find it
he Wolseley was created by Chris Corbin and Jeremy King, arguably two of the best known restaurateurs in London.[4] The pair were also behind the renewed fame and success of Le Caprice (opened by Mario Gallati in 1947), The Ivy (by Abel Giandellin, c. 1917) and J. Sheekey (Josef Sheekey, 1896). The restaurant is 50% owned by financial conglomerate Dawnay Day.[5]
Jeremy king was our client. very nice man.
Sorry, GM, I did not mean to put you to a lot of trouble.
Wow, you certainly have an eclectic clientele!! 🙂
Richard Caring, who i went to school with owns several restaurants including Caprice and wentworth golf Club which is one of our customers.
RA, i went through the staff entrance at Claridges as a supplier.
Actually RA we pride ourselves on that. I have some very interesting clients. My favourite client for discussing football is Michael Wood the historian. He’s a manc but he knows football and has a soft spot for Arsenal.
BTW I haven’t seen The Lion King
Kelsey,
You don’t honestly think our Big Raddy would be anywhere near a tradesman’s entrance do you?
He’s just not that sort.
Kelsey,
I am baling out of this restaurant ‘owners’ chat. As you can see above, Caprice Holdings is a limited company which became part of the Belgo Group, which was subsequently acquired by Tragus Holdings.
No one man owns the group, (and all the restaurants within that group), unless you are saying Mr Carling has now bought all those restaurants outright, or is he a director of another group or company who have now bought out Tragus Holdings interests?
I think I have gone beyond caring really! 😦
Oooops, you were talking to RA. Sorry. The comment still stands though.
RA,
I wouldn’t go near the place, as I know my sister does, which means its full of celebs and I loathe their sort.
I’d join you for an afternoon burger, but that’s it 🙂
i fucking hate ties
GM,
Just one more thing to add to the hate list.
Crikey, Kelsey, he was the brains behind the buy out of Belgo who had bought Caprice and then went on to buy Annabels and a million other restaurants etc to add to his clothing empire.
Well done, Kelsey! 🙂
It’s the accountant in me that does not understand the terms ‘x owns y company’, when really ‘y’ is owned by a number of shareholders within a corporate entity.
Anyway, an innocent remark by GM has led to a fascinating winding trail of ownership, and I will keep my curiosity to myself in future! 🙂
Who owns The Groucho? No, no don’t tell me………………:-)
RA, Richard Caring not Carling 🙂 owns the lot under Caprice Holdings.By the way he paid way over the odds forWentworth.
I’m so sad to discover that some of you have not had the pleasure of Pumba, Timon and Simba so here goes
The only reason i know is through us supplying Wentworth and when he bought Wentworth several things came out.
I will try and visit your wonderful salon, GM, and you can give my mop the once over – straight unmanageable I’m afraid — and I will show you how to do a Windsor! 🙂
Micky, and there I was about to invite you to the Groucho to meet all the beautiful people, but that’s put the kibosh on that!! 🙂
Peaches,
Shame you weren’t around earlier as there was a bloke who thougt he was super worldly just because he had seen it. Bless 🙂
I know Kelsey, it was a typo! 🙂
Rumour among the financial mafia has it that he paid over the odds for a lot of his acquisitions, but I think he will come out on top! 🙂
RA,
Thank you, but if I want beautiful people then I’ll boogey on down GM’s gaff.
Peaches. I must remedy this gaping hole in my education. Is it on Blu-ray?
Any luck with Norwich tickets?
I’m off enjoy elscumico.
Have a great evening GM
Raddy,
You are comig to Norwich? If so brilliant. I don’t have tickets yet, but will be trying.
Behave GM 🙂
Bloody hell Kelsey, £30 is a years wages for us upt norf.
Hi RedD,
Whereabouts oop norf are you, and are you northern born and bred or a soft southerner who’s migrated?
I have seen your name before Reddawn, was it on here bychance ?
Evening all, I did know the tea came with other stuff I was being mirthsome (well trying to be).
My Mum and Dad went earlier this year for their 40 th wedding anniversary, treated by my Dads brother and sister.
We who could not think of anything to get them were a little cheesed off not to be included!
Micky. I am trying to get Norwich tickets for my step sons birthday. I will not buy flights until tickets confirmed so I am hassling poor Peaches.
kelsey. Yes, it was by chance
Chavs or Cheats?
Chavs for me, let them have hope for a while longer
oh no! liveonlinefooty is down 😦
Not to worry Raddy, I’ll keep you updated 🙂
Cheats have 83% possession, Cesc on, Chavs are fouling right left and centre
Cesc missed a big chance
Tonight is the first time we can see whether we should’ve bought Cahill or not.
tonight OS??
evonne. Found a stream but thanks.
Cesc misses a sitter.
“evonne says:
April 18, 2012 at 8:08 pm (Edit)
tonight OS??”
What you on about? 😀
what you on about 🙂 you said ‘Tonight OS…..bla bla’ – hm??
Would it be funny if Chelsea got pas t the divers to be beaten by Jose’s masters of dark arts in the final?
Hope this is a draw or cheatalona win by a goal – want the Chavs to think they have a chance next week and take the eye off the ball for the game at the weekend.
No, it wouldn’t.
That’s why I want the chavs to win and then get demolished by bayern. Cannot stand Ronaldo and Ozzo the fish, and Maureen
Clever thinking Irish. They would think that if then win CL they don’t need 4th spot 🙂
Exactly Evonne – or at least be more cautious for our game.
Is it on this Saturday and at what time? Our game vs chavs
Drogs!!!!
yes Irish, this Sat early kickoff
12:45 to be precise and I have been offered a ticket
Merielles is an astonishingly ugly man.
Poor defending by Barca and very average from Casillas allowing Drogba to score. But what a player Dogbreath has been, I would love him at THOF alongside RvP
Crap – probably going to miss it, will try the radio. Will be on the train to Dublin.
Raddy – Meireless is not ugly, he goes to great lengths to look like that.
Cesc lost barca the game 🙂
Irish – take an earlier trainm, you have to watch it!
Barca are shite
Might not be able to Evonne – will see how it goes, can’t take a later one…
I’m half enjoying this – want the Spanish cheats to go through, but they are getting a right dose of their own medicine tonight with all the diving and time wasting Chelsea are doing. KARMA!
not a great game, hugely disappointing
Can you spot Didier Drogba? 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 o-|-< 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃 웃웃 웃
Irish 🙂 he got some kicking tonight, wasn’t pretending, much
They won’t be that lucky twice
Now we have a game on our hands on Saturday.
😀 Irish.
Disappointing game
Terribly biased commentary on ITV, great dive by Ashley Cole to which they said when watching replay “just clipped him” which was true but they forgot to mention the small fact that Cole was airborne already with legs going akimbo Ashley Young style. Then there was “Terry did enough to stop him there”, cue replay with Terry taking no ball and all Messi, “yeah just about enough” (said with a little smile).
I so wish we could have an option to switch off the commentary on the red button or something, BBC, Sky and ITV could then collate that info and realise two things:
a) good commentators/pundits from crap ones
b) they could save themselves a small fortune in pundit fees.
Oh and I do hope Arsene was watching tonight because we will need to prepare for exactly that kind of performance Saturday (with a fresh legged Torres up front I would imagine).
https://twitter.com/#!/ArisAristidou1/status/192716522857308160
https://twitter.com/frimpong26afc/status/192707869907488770
Agree with you GIE – Torres for Drogba and maybe Sideshow Bob will come into the side if fit and Matteo will be happy with a draw or sneak a win off a set piece.
They have done us many times playing like that Irish, just hope we are disciplined in our attack, Wigan showed our weakness when attacking with too many numbers. Will be good to have Kozzer back.
I think Djourou did okay the other night, but definitely will be great having Koscielny back. We switched off against Wigan – they had other chances apart from the 2 they scored, especially the late Moses chance – but it was those two sucker punches that did us in.
Ivanovic is banned I think.
If we can’t deport qatada I hope we leave the echr. It’s a fucking joke
First time I’ve watched the news in 5 years and it’s really winding me up.
Chavs, 1 shot on target.
Barca, 79% possession.
Agree with Raddy @ 9:38pm.
Chavs want a 60,000 Stadium, 38,000 for a CL Semi, Massive support ! and how many were Barca fans !.
nite nite
https://twitter.com/#!/GurjitAFC/status/192723471149711360
I thought that was a brilliant game of football. Two different styles and systems of football competing at the highest level. Obviously Barca deserved at least a point tonight, or at least the all important away goal, but the Chavs worked hard and were very disciplined for their win. Xavi and Iniesta were disappointing and I don’t understand why Guardiola plays Cesc so near to Messi – he is not using Fabregas’ skills to the maximum in that position. Even though Messi did not score tonight, he proved again what a phenomenal player he is. Also thought that Cashley was immense tonight, and the rest of their defence played very well too.
I have no doubt that if we play a high tempo against the Chavs as we did against City, we can beat them on Saturday. They will be too tired to deal with it for 90 minutes.
Drogba would definitely be in my TOP-TOSSER 11 of all times. I had almost forgotten what a w*nker he is.
https://twitter.com/#!/arsenalfc49/status/192736118045818880
I think TA that Barca were not at their best tonight, they looked pedestrian in possession, they miss a focal point in their attack, and they miss Messis runs from deep when he plays up top. But goes to show that enough bodies can stop the best passing team in the world from finding gaps. (or enough gaps to capitalise). Chelsea had a job to do over two legs, I don’t think they will be happy to play like that on Saturday in a 90 minute game.
But the closer they get to winning the CL the more important finishing 3rd becomes. After Saturday we need these big three points on Saturday to keep Tottenham and Toon at bay, and finish Chelsea’s hopes of qualification via league places.
It’s a huge game and I’m already nervous.
I just read on twitter that conner henderson will be in the squad on saturday if Diaby isn’t fit. Diaby had a “slight reaction” to playing 45 mins in a friendly today. Arteta is out for the rest of the season.
Enough bodies and a lot of luck GiE. It was interesting to see how Chelsea did not allow Barca in front of their D a lot – the few times Barca managed to get in there the Chavs put in terrific blocks and left little space for through-balls. Cesc’s lob over the defence was brilliant and should have let to the equaliser.
Agree with you though that they did not look at their best tonight – a bit jaded at times.
I am not so nervous about the Chavs game. Arsenal are at their best when they know that they will lose if they don’t give everything.
I think the CL final will be between the chavs and Bayern. I also think it’s possible the chavs will win it. We have to make sure of third.
That would be a small miracle GM. RM and Barca are very strong at home and I expect them both to go through. The Chavs have the best chance as any away goals will count double in case of an aggregate draw.
The spaniards will play each other on Saturday. I can’t see an all spnish final now. Bayern battered real
GM, I would love Bayern to beat Maureen’s Divers but I have a horrible feeling they will beat Die Lederhosen 1-0 to go through on the away goal. That would be typical Mourinho.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ov48pCkalE&feature=related
nice video TA
You seriously don’t think the Chavs will be allowed to go through?
The – carefully chosen – ref for the second leg will probably adopt the same tactics as that corrupt Swiss wanker who sent RvP off: namely, book lots of Chav players early on so that he can wave the second yellow later on for the flimsiest of reasons.
I wonder what the odds are on the Chavs having a man sent off at the Nou Camp? I wouldn’t mind having a punt.
Forgot about that Rocky. RA is very rich though
I think 4-5-1 like Dortmund is better.. It’s easier to change 4-3-3 to 4-5-1 than 3-5-2.. And offcourse we don’t need to buy any striker, we have RVP, and we do have solid defender if they are not injure.. Gibbs/Santos-Koscielny-Vermaelen-Sagna (with Djorou, Mertesacker, Yennaris and maybe Vertonghen for backup). We just lack of creativity in the midfielder. With 4-5-1 formula, we need three attacker midfielder, Rosicky is there already, we just need to buy one (and I prefer Dempsey or Kagawa), or to change Ox/walcott to suit to that position. And we certainly still have Diaby and Ramsey and alot of young guns.. Go Gunners.. Keep the spirit high.. Go for UCL 2013 winner..
Back on the formations Wigans 3-4-3 is very clever as it can move through any variety of formations when shifting through phases of play. And it always retains a solid 3 man base in the middle of the defence. You then don’t have to rely on a defensive midfielder to always sit.
When attacking its 3-4-3, when defending it can convert to 5-4-1 with ease, in transition it can be 3-5-1.
If the opposition counter attack using wingers one centre back can go out to close off the danger safe in the knowledge there are two other centre backs still in the middle so the option for a quick delivery whilst you’ve been dragged out of position is not there.
Morning GiE,
Spot on. Its incredibly versatile and can also shift gear into a 4-4-2 with a Vertonhen or Vermaelen slipping into midfield. As both Utd and ourselves have found, its tricky to know how to set out your stall against it.
Chelsea singing “same old Barca always cheating”.
Cough, splutter. I have never seen a more pathetic performance than I saw from Drogba. Pathetic, pathetic.
Morning,
So 3-4-3 goes to 5-4-1 with ease as long as four players simultaneously move position.
3-5-1 is only 9 players!
What a load of tactical bollix. 🙂
The worst possible scenario for me is the chavs getting to the final, so I just know it’s going to happen.
Chas,
I think Rocky may have a good point about Barca and their “friends” having a say in the matter.
I totally agree about wanting Barca to go through.
Chas – no, no way. Barca didn’t play well, it won’t happen in Nou Camp.
Was it just me thinking that the whole game was shite?
No it was not just you Evonne
Chas the wider midfielders and wider attackers just shift back to make the 5-4-1, what it also does is makes them a coiled spring ready to counter from deep.
As for the 3-5-1…..it’s early 🙂
When I played 3-5-2 was quite popular, but our coaches always wanted the team to pivot round depending on which flank we were attacking down, basically meant we ended up playing 4-4-2 which was a load of bollix.
We have the squad already for 3-4-3 (when all are fit).
————-Koz——BFG——Verm———-
Sagna/Song/Rambo/Diaby/Arteta/Wilshere/Gibbs
——Theo/RvP/Ox/Gervinho/Rosicky—–
GiE,
One part of my thinking was about how we could have at least one system that would accommodate two strikers. This way we can buy one of quality and he won’t be bench bound. We can always use our curent system as and when one of the strikers has an injury.
In some ways, the post was prompted by the talk of Podolski. He is not a wide player, in which case he’s either a replacement for Robin, or AW has a new system up his sleeve, or, if Robin has another injury free season, then he’s on the bench and that I cannot see.
No message,unrealisable post
Jarky,
Spend less time thinking next time around, why don’t you.
Oh Jarky please come back we all so wanted to know what you had to say.
One serious question. Where would Podolski play in our current system?
I’m waaaaiting.
Clue. If he plays on either side of Robin, then all width goes out of the window on that side.
Morning.
That is a very good question Micky.
And where will the Ox play if Pod takes Gerv’s position?
And another thing. He is very left footed, with a great shot, so really starting on the right would make more sense as he’s cutting in onto his lethalleft peg. That does mean no crossed balls from the byline.
Morning all.
So many scenarios as to the outcome of our game on Saturday.
barca play real on the same day, and Chelsea with basically the same team have decided to play for di matteo as clearly they didn’t when AVB was in charge.
Strange how a 34 year old like drogba can play two massive games in a few days.Drogba is Drogba and has always been a thorn in our side.he may not start but i bet he is in the squad.
We have just got to win or at the least get a raw to help our cause for top 4. In the worst case scenario, and don’t say it couldn’t happen, Chelsea win the Cup then only the top three get CL next season.
I hope those two recent results against QPR and Wigan don’t come back to haunt us and all the hard work o climb up the table is not in vain.
I am only writing this as I really didn’t expect Wigan to give us a lesson on monday.
If ever AW needed to earn his wages it will be in two days time when whoever plays needs to be focused and motivated from the off.
nervous times ahead IMO
We have a great team that only needs tweaking but consistency in performance and results has been our main undoing this season.
As of now we could finish 3rd,4th, or 5th and I really wouldn’t like to forecast our final placing
OK. I have the solution.
We drop the idea of defence. Szczesny is enough.
kelsey. You are right, an important few days for AW. The midfield of Song, AR and TR just didn’t work against a determined defence – the calming influence of Arteta was sorely missed. To rely upon Diaby would be folly.
We will get few chances and RvP will be our most important player, if he regains goal form we will win.
Raddy,
RVP is nearly always our most important player in a striking role.Wouldn’t it be great to see Ramsey score the winning goal. Diaby, surely he won’t start.
Raddy @ 8:27 – just as well you not the Boss, phew…
Kelsey – yes, we were anything but consistent this season. But we were consistent in losing to ‘lesser’ teams and putting great performances against the top opposition (remember that our season started in October). So if the trend continues, I expect 3:1 to the Mighty
Morning LB 🙂
morning all,
nah BR, that’s to defensive. rush keeper!
I’m going to answer my own question. Pod comes, Robin goes.
Micky, Micky, Robin is going to do a ‘bakkie koffie’ with the boss and it will all be OK!! We are desperate for a decent second striker and the Pod can also play on the left. Simples.
Barca were poor last night by their standards, but if the shots against the bar and the post and also the two missed shoe-ins by Cesc and Sanchez had gone in, Chelsea would have been on a hiding.
Odd game football!
Barca looked like they were toothless upfront. If they had RVP or a Drogba in the forward line —- wow!
You could be right, Micky, Barca will come looking for RVP in the summer carrying bags of Danegeld!! 🙂
Total,
Not wide left. So its a change of system, or Robin goes.
RA,
Agree that Robin goes if Pod comes, as I said, although where he’ll go, I don’t know.
No way will Pod play second striker to Robin and in my opinion he’stotally the wrong type to play on either side in our present system.
Bright start today 🙂 So RVP is off and we get the Pod to play with Chamakh 🙂
RA,
They do lack a striker. Very true 😦
On the bright side, I still see them knocking Chavs out. They old legs at Chelsea have to give in at some point, and I think their little game this weekend could be the final straw.
Morning Kelsey,
Does sound a bit doomy when you put it like that.
Morning all
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