Fergie’s Had a Punt on Arsenal to Win the Title

Something very, very fishy is going on (and I don’t mean David Platt’s increasing resemblance to a grouper).

In a season which promised to be the most competitive in recent memory, the top clubs seem locked in a battle to NOT win the Premier League.

It didn’t start out this way.

Chelsea began the campaign exactly as they finished last year, slipping into their rhythm as smoothly as a well-soaped mobile phone slips into Ashley’s, er, back pocket.

United embarked on an unbeaten run that, although unspectacular, had some mug pundits talking about them challenging the record of the mighty Invincibles.

Manchester City unveiled a gazillion pounds worth of human bling.

And even the Tiny Totts were rattling a few doors and windows after accidentally discovering that their non-scoring, under-performing, unwanted left back was actually the very best player in the world ever, honest.

And then the contest to NOT be champions kicked in.

Chelsea started mislaying points like a blind darts player; United were about as successful on the road as a hedgehog with no legs; Citeh were stymied by their ultra-cautious Italian manager parking the bus for tough games like Wigan at home; and the Spuds found that their new hero Bale was less of interest to Real Madrid than to anthropologists searching for the missing link.

The only consistent team were Arsenal, who were, to use the cliché, consistent in their inconsistency.

It’s at times like this that you can rely on a manager and a team who have done it many times before to take the thing by the scruff of the neck. And, sure enough, for a while, the claret-conked Caledonian and his boys looked like they were going to claim the title without any serious challenge.

But that’s when the weirdness started happening.

Arsenal, having slowly and oh-so painfully emerged as the most likely challenger, started to shoot themselves in the foot.

First, away at Newcastle United, we romped to a four-nil half time lead… then collapsed in the second half to draw four-all. Fans, players and manager were all on the floor, while the media hyenas played tug of war with our corpse. You couldn’t imagine what it would take to lift everyone up again.

We needed a knight in shining armour and, that very same weekend, along he came. Sir Alex of Sozzle duly managed to engineer a first defeat of the season for his team, against bottom placed Wolves no less.

What had seemed a disastrous, dispiriting two points dropped for Arsenal suddenly became one point gained in the race to catch United.

Fast forward a couple of weeks. Arsenal are on a good run and morale is high. Even better, the first trophy for nearly six years is surely just a formality: turn up at Wembley, batter the Brummies and the Carling Cup will be ours, right?

Well, we all know what happened.

Fans, players and manager were all on the floor, the media hyenas etc etc.

Then, within a couple of days, along comes our kind knight again, allowing his team to lose to Chelsea. Three more points in the title race gone awry and just the pick-me-up Arsenal needed.

And now we arrive at the weekend just passed. Arsenal have a great chance to put pressure on United by beating Sunderland at home. Through a combination of inept officiating, obdurate Sunderland defending and wayward finishing the game ends goalless. When we could have stepped on United’s throat, we stepped, instead, into some doggy doo-doo.

Fans, players, manager are all on the floor etc etc.

But, astonishingly, for the third time our knight in shining armour comes to the rescue, taking United on the short trip to Liverpool and having them wilt like limp lettuce against their old enemies.

Once again, two points seemingly dropped in the pursuit of United has turned into one point gained.

For United to be so kind to us once – and with such perfect timing – may be coincidence; to do it twice is remarkable; to do it three times is downright suspicious.

I can think of only one possible explanation: that wily old Scot has had the biggest bet of his life – he’s placed a fortune on Arsenal to win the league this year.


224 Responses to Fergie’s Had a Punt on Arsenal to Win the Title

  1. Rasp says:

    😆 Rocky, that’s brilliant…. Fergie’s a gooner, doo doo di doop

    I’m looking to ‘arry to join in the Arseloving and throw away a 1 nil lead and lose to AC on wednesday following our heroic draw against Barca tomorrow.

  2. bops says:

    🙂 .. good one rocky..

  3. Red Arse says:

    Rocky, a very amusing post, you old cynic! 🙂

    You always manage to bring a smile to my visage, even on Monday morning!

    I mentioned yesterday that the words “if” or “if only” are sad little words which usually presage some deep regret.

    ‘If only’ we had not allowed WBA or Newcastle to beat us at home, ‘If’ we did not have so many persistent injuries, etc, etc, then we would be top dogs today!

    My dad always said “‘If’ and ‘If Only’ are useless words, don’t use them, just get on with it”.

    A wise sentiment, but I ignored him then and will do so again, 🙂 —If only the Spuds lose on wednesday …. and If we beat Barca on Tuesday, I might write something nice about Sir Red Nose!—as if!! 🙂

  4. dandan says:

    Nice one Rocky, the kilted whinger has probably finally gone one step to far in his silence. The FA have to show there is not one rule for the Glaswegian shop steward and the rest of the world.
    This time the third estate will be watching remembering insults and slights from the past, dipping their pens in the acid that has accrued across the seasons, that acid will surely destroy the cloak of invisibility so carefully manufactured by the FA and Utd’s board, for their favoured one
    If they don’t the response from the press will make the published revelations of MR Jaap Stam on Chairman Fergie look like pages from a Mr man book, which one I leave you to decide.

    Big Raddy, Re colours must be worn.(Yesterdays Post) Many on here know people who have paid dearly for wearing colours.

    IMHO nothing looks more ridiculous than middle aged and above, overweight men wearing replica shirts.

    To each his own I suppose, but for me no thank you

  5. dandan says:

    RA in a more philosophical mood consider “if your aunt had balls she would be your uncle” 🙂

  6. Danish Gooner says:

    Hate to burst your bubble but we would have lost to Chavski and Pool away too.Frankly i cant see Man utd lose many more points on the other hand Arsenes blunders are probably gonna draw half of the remaining fixtures.

  7. chas says:

    Tres amusant, Rocky (as Micky would say 🙂 ). Muchas gracias.

    What a cracking afternoon’s football it was yesterday. Lifted the spirits after our dismal Saturday.

    I was in Austria with 3 Geordies when we capitulated at St James’ Park, but the Unconvincingables losing their unbeaten record at Molineux perked me right up.

    Let’s hope we can capitalise on Fergie’s wager during the run-in.

  8. Rasp says:

    Morning DG,

    It’s a sunny morning over here in England so you’ll excuse us preferring to look on our prospects more optimistically and also treating Rocky’s post in the lighthearted spirit in which it was written.

    Has it occurred to you and other pessimists how you might feel if your predictions are incorrect and we win the CL or the prem?…. surely any joy would be tainted by the fact that you did not have faith in your team or your manager.

  9. chas says:

    Danish, don’t say ‘hate’ when you really mean ‘love’.

  10. dandan says:

    Good morning Danish, your good humour this lovely Monday morning,surely does give a positive spin to our deliberations,what would we do without your occasional upbeat council 🙂

  11. Osi says:

    good humorous article. You forgot that we had two Arsenal fans in the Liverpool team (Carragher and King Dal)who were determined to do us a favour or two.

  12. mickydidit89 says:

    Thank you for the silky smoothe and witty post.
    Must pull you up on one point: “Through a combination of inept officiating, obdurate Sunderland defending and wayward finishing”…and Arsene’s shocking sixty minutes!! Nope, I have not recovered.
    Anyhow, as Rasp says, it is a bright and sunny morning and Cesc is about to lead us to an historic victory in Catalonia, so frankly things could harly look more smiley.

  13. 26may1989 says:

    Rocky, epic post, just brilliant! And oh so true.

    United may have dropped 9 points in 15, but the 4 we’ve dropped in the same period have been damaging given the circumstances of those two matches. But for all the frustrations, I remain confident – looks like it’s going to be close though.

    Danish has to be a troll doesn’t he? No Arsenal fan would really always look to slag off the team, the manager an dthe fans.

  14. mickydidit89 says:

    Overweight middle aged men in replica shirts 🙂
    Such a bad look!

  15. Red Arse says:

    This morning I read some very fiesty and interesting comments from AA bloggers on the late shift yesterday.

    One that stood out, in particular, was 26 May’s. 🙂

    Following a Post I wrote on the subject of the Offside Law, we, Oh Mighty Advocate, have argued on a number of occasions. In a nutshell, you said the rule was clear and simple to understand.
    I agreed with you but maintained that the implementation/application of the rule was riddled with subjectivity which inevitably led to error and dissension. A premise you did not agree with, as I recall.

    I was delighted to read, slightly out of context I admit, the following;

    26M–A word about referees, linesmen and gunnern5′s 12.20pm post. I’m often critical of referees, and feel the English game is especially badly served, but I have a lot of time for what gunnern5 said. Offside decisions have an in-built propensity for error, even without the astonishing pace of the modern game.–

    Clearly you have been swayed by my eloquent dissertation, M’Lud! 🙂

  16. Red Arse says:

    Dandan, 🙂

    Your 10:03, I think that was the very point I was making to my dad!!

  17. mickydidit89 says:

    So, tomorrow, Cesc Jack and ??

  18. 26may1989 says:

    Monsieur Arse

    My rebuttal to your eloquant but ultimately flawed submission:

    The offside rule has always had the high risk of error in it, simply because it requires one person (the lino) to see two things (the ball being passed and the position of the receiving player) at the same time. The changes made to the offside rule to favour attacking play do not change that basic concept.

    The changes to the rule favour attacking play by restricting offisde in almost all cases to the receiving player being active in play, so he can’t be caught offisde if he has nothing to do with the attack, the old offside trap having the effect of creating stultified football. The price we pay for that more intelligent offside rule is not the risk of error of misreading the position of player and ball as GN5 mentioned (that risk was there already), it’s in the added layer of interpretation, which of course means inconsistnecy. To me, that’s a price worth paying when compared with a return to the simpler, more consitsent but ultimately more defender-friendly offside rule of the past.

    So, as you say, you quote me out of context – I rest my case!

  19. Big Raddy says:

    DD. Absolutely agree about the replica shirts 🙂

    I was thinking more along the lines of a scarf !!

  20. 26may1989 says:

    Replica shirts don’t look too good on some (certainly not me) but it’s good to see more people turning up this season in scarves – the club’s give-away has been a success on that front.

  21. Red Arse says:

    Now look here, 26,

    Typical legal beagle tactics of trying to draw me into a re-run of our previous discourse, just so you can hit me with one of your expandable Fee Notes! 🙂

    There are now 4 lawyers and lawyerlings in my immediate family (another minnow having just joined Clifford Turner), and they have one over-arching characteristic which they share with your goodself.

    Lawyers, like cats, can be diverted 360 Degrees from their chosen course and blithely carry on as if that had always been their original intention.

    None of my gang have ever admitted that this ability to change tack with such insouciant aplomb was part of their secret training. Cunning devils! 🙂

  22. Big Raddy says:

    RL. Very amusing post. I particularly enjoyed “claret-conked Caledonian,” Chary will be proud of you!!

    A fine graphic as well. Though one of my finest memories is Platty scoring the winner in front of the North Bank against MU. A happy day indeed (and amazingly 14 years ago)

  23. 26may1989 says:

    Thanks RA, fee-note is on its way….

  24. Big Raddy says:

    BTW It is my birthday today. Hence the very good mood and surprise at how fast time flies

  25. mickydidit89 says:

    Scarves, I agree, although I had you down as a rosette and rattle man 🙂

  26. Big Raddy says:

    RA. Explain the 360 degree turn. Surely one maintains one’s original position?

  27. mickydidit89 says:

    Jeepers BR,
    Really very very Happy Birthday.
    Could it be the Worlds’ Top Restaurant this evening?

  28. Big Raddy says:

    Micky. You have me bang on ….. an unlit roll up, braces, a side parting and national health glasses

  29. mickydidit89 says:

    I was going to mention the 360 degree thing, but thought better of taking on the mighty RA!

  30. Big Raddy says:

    Micky. A months wages for a meal? ….. no way. Likely to be taken to Mac’s or if I am really being given the luxury treatment Burgerking 🙂

  31. Red Arse says:

    Oi Rasper,

    Before I disappear in a pouf of smoke …. erm, I think that might better be said as a puff of smoke, I think I might withdraw my Post on the scientific appraisal of referees. 🙂

    This is partly because my nascent post will have grown a beard by the time it is published, and partly because it has been such a hot topic, over the last few days, that it has been difficult not participating in the comments.

    I am not too proud to be the only one to have had not just one, but two posts summarily rejected, while their have been impassioned pleas to my fellow AA’ers to write Posts. I might get my lawyer on to you tho’. 🙂

  32. mickydidit89 says:

    Stop fibbing. You mentioned a while ago that you were going.

  33. goonermichael says:

    We didn’t lose to pool away danish

  34. goonermichael says:

    Happy Birthday Raddy 🙂

  35. Rasp says:

    Happy Birthday Raddy 😛

  36. Rasp says:


    We wanted to publish your post on refs on Friday, but you have the ultimate say in what happens, just don’t do a 540 degree turn – you’ll get dizzy

  37. M Red Arse – I shall not be allowing you to withdraw your post, there is no reason for you to do so. Challenging referees is an on-going subject for debate and therefore your post will still be valid at anytime.

    There is no mid-week game next week and I was hoping to use it then if not before.

    Happy Birthday BigRaddy – hope you have a lovely day x

  38. Big Raddy says:

    Micky. Bloody hell, you have a fine memory!!

    We are going to Noma for my wife’s birthday. Tonight is The King’s Speech followed by a nice French Bistro

  39. mickydidit89 says:

    Surely this is more up Raddy’s street

  40. dandan says:

    The sun is shining enough to tempt me out in the 4×4 with the dog and Camera, maybe to the tulip fields to see how we are doing. Daffodils are out in my garden. So the farmers well may be cutting. I wish all you working AA Er’s a fine morning and will rejoin later.

  41. Rasp says:

    …. or even this …..

  42. Rasp says:

    or this….

    OK, I’ll stop now

  43. mickydidit89 says:

    How about Happy Birthday by Clare Grogan and Altered Images. Certainly used to do it for me.

  44. dandan says:

    Pff have just seen RA’s threat to withdraw post, you sir are not alone in having had posts die of old age, I certainly can claim that honour, posts are at the discretion of the lovely Peaches, and long may it be so,

    Published and be damned they say, RA withdraw and be slaughtered 🙂

  45. Big Raddy says:

    I’ll take Micky’s! MM is the ultimate in sexy. Wish I had her as my birthday present.

  46. Red Arse says:

    Raddy, happy birthday to you sir! 🙂

    In answer to the 360 Degree question raised by both you and the inestimable Micky, (interesting that 26 never noticed 🙂 ) can I suggest you try the following.

    Catch a cat, if you do not already have one. Allow/encourage him to walk across the room from (say) North to South, and then simply pick him up and point him 180 Degrees in the opposite direction. you will find he continues across the room, South to North, without pause.

    With lawyers, the same procedure applies, but as they are far more devious than cats, you will need to twirl them around twice to achieve the same outcome.

    I have developed such a wonderful set of deltoid muscles by this swinging of the odd lawyer (and some are very odd 🙂 ) around my frontroom that I have now incorporated this practice into my fitness regime. I was intending to ask 26 over to mine for coffee, but I think he will now be on to my cunning ruse! 🙂

  47. mickydidit89 says:

    Off to find a cat.
    Back later.

  48. 26may1989 says:

    RA, I’m far too busy to notice such things.

    Also, not quite clever enough…….

  49. Red Arse – that is funny about lawyers, I call it the ‘it was all my idea syndrome’ 😉

    If anyone is finding the page slow to load now we have so many videos celebrating Raddy’s birthday can they let me know and I’ll take some off – leaving MM on of course 🙂

  50. goonermichael says:

    Big Raddy says:
    March 7, 2011 at 11:29 am
    I’ll take Micky’s! MM is the ultimate in sexy. Wish I had her as my birthday present.

    Is your wife reading Raddy?

  51. Gooner In Exile says:

    cracking post Rocky, I thought when i saw the number of comments we would see a number of ManUre contributors, but alas no such fun to be had 😀 Perhaps they are all still quickly choosing who to support for the forseeable future after witnessing Giggs and Scholes swansongs yesterday, and the strength of their youth/reserves projects against Crawley last week.

    The post is a welcome distraction to tomorrows game, my wife tried to get me to her sisters for dinner, and she nearly bloody managed it, asking me whilst my mind was distracted and i was in one of those moods to say yes just to stop her talking.

    Lo and behold i checked my calendar (we have a joint social calendar) on my iPhone and realised my mistake, much pleading for forgiveness and promises to listen in future led to the rearrangement of pleasantries to another evening in the future (not a Tuesday or Wednesday).

    Has anyone taken time to study the fixture list, there are so many potential re arrangements in the coming weeks, due to possible CL progression, FA Cup progression and replays to continue fighting on all fronts without Cesc, Song, Theo and RvP is going to be an impossible mountain.

    I have said before that I do not want to prioritise, but I believe if anything we must prioritise the League over all others, or if we don’t want to Arsene has to call back at least three loanees possibly 5, they have had long enough to get the experience, now it is time for them to come play with the seniors and prove their worth.

    Happy Birthday Raddy.

    Anyone else worried about the whereabouts of Carlito, we haven’t heard anything from him since the Mamma in Law arrived on Saturday evening.

  52. Harry says:

    Cracking Post Rocky….

    Happy Birthday Rads…..

    Have any of you got daytime jobs?

    Cesc on the plane?

    Defence is picked….So the rest?

    I would go for the three musketeers in the middle of Cesc, Samir and Jack, fight fire with Fire……

    That leaves the front three positions interesting, I would love my solution of clichy etc, but I have killed that comment to death and wenger wont answer my phonecalls……

    So Arshavin, B52 and Cham? play cham down the middle and let bendtner and arshavin roam?

    Diaby is another consideration but as much as I will defend his place in the squad, he did me and the team no favours on saturday, but he is due a big performance…….Options are trully limited……

    I fancy 3-2 to barca and qualify on away goals…..

  53. RockyLives says:

    Good day all and Happy Birthday BR

    I can play the ‘if’ and ‘if only’ game as well as anyone, but I suppose you have to counter the ‘if only we’d won at Newcastle’ with all the ‘what ifs’ that United and Chelsea also have this season.

    A more serious post than mine would have questioned whether the inability of any one team to stamp their authority on matters means that the quality of the EPL is better or worse this year.

    My typically ‘on the fence’ opinion is that it’s a bit of both: several teams outside the traditional Top Four have improved (Citeh and Spuds in particular) and some of the mid-to-low table teams are also better at giving the top teams a competitive game. However, it’s hard to argue that there is an outstanding team in the EPL right now.

    I doubt many ManUre fans would say that this team is as good as their recent title-winning teams. Ditto Chelsea.

    And I doubt many Gooners think our current team is better than the 1998, 2002 or 2004 vintages.

    That said, if this Arsenal team wins the title I still think it will be AW’s greatest ever achievement.

  54. RockyLives says:

    Carlito’s absence is easy to explain. It’s common knowledge that certain demons have the power to affect electrical systems in their immediate vicinity. I suspect power failure chez-Carlito…

    I like the look of your suggested line-up, but I suspect AW will go with Cesc, JW and Den in MF, then Arsh, Bendy, Nasri up front.

  55. Carlito11 says:

    Afternoon all. Took a while to read all the excellent comments today. Rocky I have to agree that Sir Rouge of Schnoz MUST have a bet on us- having followed your argument closely it is the only logical explanation!
    I appreciate your concern for my whereabouts GiE and Rocky- you won’t need to break out the Grimoires to rescue me just yet- all appears to be going well and I believe I have a Mr RedArse to thank for his fine mantra of Saturday in appeasing whichever Roman Gods I had previously upset!
    Happy Birthday BigRaddy- hope the boys can give you a present tomorrow night. The “who will play in Song’s role” is a vexed question. In fact it’s a rock and a hard place as Denilson means crabwalk to damnation and Diaby won’t pass unless it’s nailed on so he will get caught in possession. A midfield 3 of Cesc/ Fab/ JW is a very pleasing thought and would free up 2 berths for both our beanpole strikers to cause a bit of havoc but I just can’t see Wenger doing it- he’s more likely to find an unlikely spot for Rosicky which I can’t say I’d be pleased about!

  56. Carlito11 says:

    Following on from that thought- if I were Wenger I would set us up thus:

    Sag JD Koz Clichy
    Nasri Fab JW
    Chamakh NB52

    If it happens I’ll eat my mother in law’s hat but I think it would be a fine thing indeed!

  57. Red Arse says:

    Hi Carlito, 🙂

    Glad all seems to be going well with the Ma-in-Law!

    —In fact it’s a rock and a hard place as Denilson means a crabwalk to damnation and Diaby won’t pass unless it’s nailed on so he will get caught in possession—, could not agree more. (and I am a Diaby fan, but he seems to have blown a fuse).

  58. Big Raddy says:

    Hey. Stop talking about tomorrow – you are taking my points for tomorrow’s post!

  59. goonermichael says:

    On the Arsenal website they have pictures of the squad training for the Barca game and RVP is with them kicking a bal.

  60. goonermichael says:

    a ball even

  61. Carlito11 says:

    Sorry Raddy- won’t happen again 😮
    GM- RVP has “stepped up training” according to Matt Law at The Express- looks like 3 weeks might actually mean 3 weeks for a change eh? *touches wood*

  62. mickydidit89 says:

    Great news, and if true you can call it a “bal” all you like, in fact as far as I’m concerned a “b” would do!
    Oh let it be.

  63. mickydidit89 says:

    Whooooa Carlito,
    Beware! It sounds to me like she has you exactly where she wants you. Guard down. Be very alert at 19:45 tomorrow!

  64. mickydidit89 says:

    Hey lads, cosmic idea for tomorrow.
    ..Squil JD Kos
    Sag Cesc Jw Nas Clich
    …….AA Cham

  65. Carlito11 says:

    Micky- I also gave the back 3 idea some thought and I think it’s definitely worth a try but maybe not a first outing against the world’s best attacking team? I was also thinking of this:

    Sag JD Squid Clichy
    JW Kozzer
    Nasri Cham/NB52 AA

    But I’m just not sure that playing players in a slightly unfamiliar role in such a difficult game is wise. Not sure if I’d play the squid but I reckon Kozzer could definitely play the Song role if AW asked him to.

  66. goonermichael says:

    I think Chamakh will start tomorrow.

  67. Big Raddy says:

    Hey …… Yellow card for Micky and Carlito!!

  68. mickydidit89 says:

    Harsh. Appeal lodged!

  69. mickydidit89 says:

    Yip, like that too, although I share your concerns about experimenting against the World’s second best attacking side.

  70. Big Raddy says:

    Who would you prefer to come 4th? Spurs or Chelsea?

    For me this is a tough one. There are good reasons for wanting Chelsea to take 4th. Mainly because if they don’t Abramovich will buy whoever is available at any price.

    However, If Spurs take 4th perhaps Roman will decide he has had enough of his plaything and abandon them.

    However, the idea of Spurs having any sustained success is dreadful. They would have the financial resources to hold onto their better players and attract players looking for the CL experience.

  71. mickydidit89 says:

    Chavs by a country mile. Even 4th for them and you may get your roman wish.

  72. mickydidit89 says:

    Spurs will desperately need CL Cash to keep the likes of Bale to say nothing of ground development. Cut them off at the source, I say.

  73. mickydidit89 says:

    If you feed Groupa’s hard boiled eggs, they spit out the shells. Fussy or what?

  74. RockyLives says:

    micky’s right. This needs to be the Spuds one and only season in the CL.

    By the way BR – I saw what you did there 🙂
    Get those naughty boys talking about something else….

  75. RockyLives says:

    apparently that’s how Platty eats them too.

    By the way, this is not to knock Platty – I have fond memories of being there when he scored against the Mancs for us with a brilliant header (in fact, a Graham-esque header). Plus the great memories of Italia ’90…

  76. Red Arse says:

    Definitely not Spurs 4th.

    They yap so much at having the merest sniff of playing with us big boys.

    Next season will be interesting with ourselves, a revitalised ‘Pool, Citeh, Chelsea, Manpoo and the Spuds all trying to qualify for the CL 2012/13.

  77. 26may1989 says:

    Spurs ahead of Chavs but ideally both ahead of City – sorry, but I can’t forgive the moneybags crap, and in my hierarchy of hate, City are top, followed by Chelsea.

    As I’ve mentioned before, of course to a certain amount of abuse, so long as we beat them every time we play them and do better than them in every competition, I don’t mind Spurs – I grew up equidistant from Highbury and WHL and went to plenty of games at WHL in the 80s as a neutral.

  78. Carlito11 says:

    BR- spuds will implode when twitcher gets the engerland job anyway- I’d love it if chelski failed to qualify with those expensive signings on their books with one season left until the uefa regs kick in…

  79. Red Arse says:

    Rocky, I was pretty pleased with Platypuss too when he played for us.

    He is tho’ first and foremost a Manu fan and is not adverse to sticking the knife into the Gunners when doing the TV pundit thing.

  80. mickydidit89 says:

    I guess the beauty of the situation is that we can read real positives into either outcome.

  81. 26may1989 says:

    Rocky, let’s knock Platt, please. I was very pleased to see you open today by gratuitously insulting him (or Groupers).

    Yes, he scored a couple of goals for us, and his signing from Italian football alongside Bergkamp was a moment of genuine excitement. But since his retirement from playing, he’s been a complete tool, and has shown distinct anti-Arsenal tendencies. He’s sealed his rep for me by becoming one of the lackeys at Eastlands, hoovering up cash in the name of this “football project”.

  82. Carlito11 says:

    Micky- “the World’s second best attacking side” 😀
    26M- love the “hierarchy of hate”! I think I’m with you on this one- I’ve got a lot of great mates who are spuds and the banter is football related and humourous. I can’t say the same about any of my Chelsea supporting acquaintances- call me a snob but at least Tottingham have history, albeit far inferior to our own!

  83. Red Arse says:


    Spurs are owned by a billionaire too, and they have spent big bucks over the last few years.

    Not on the Chelsea, Citeh, Manu scale, but they are all much the same, just different shades of grey.

    Actually, there was a time, some years ago, that I felt relatively benign towards Spurs too, perhaps because they never did too well compared to us, but exposure to some of their insufferable fans has changed all that.

  84. Carlito11 says:

    At the risk of a red card from BR- (I probably just got one anyway for not being scathing enough about the Tinies) There’s a rumour on Twitter that RVP has travelled with the squad! Could it be AW’s been playing mind games?

  85. RockyLives says:

    Oh wouldn’t it be nice if that rumour were true…

    As to the Spuds – I like the way they play the game far more than I do the style of Citeh or Chavski, but I’m sorry, I’m old school. I really do not want them having even a sniff of success. The money-baggers are going to spend anyway, whether or not they qualify for the CL. Spurs, although also a billionaire’s plaything, will have more of a problem attracting top talent if they’re not in the CL because they do operate within some financial constraints, unlike the other two.

    They are our historical enemy and we should all regard them as such. The rivalries with Utd and Chelsea are all much more recent.

  86. 26may1989 says:

    Agreed Carlito, Spurs fans are generally a less annoying breed than the Lesser Spotted Chav. Deluded perhaps, but not nearly as obnoxious as the Russian’s lapdogs.

    RA, agreed re Spurs’ expenditure – no-one really knows where their cash has been coming from but the proximity of the Twitcher, and his track record for leaving clubs with decimated finances, must be a worry for lillywhites. But I still find more to hate in the SW6 brigade.

  87. Carlito11 says:

    Just heard he’s in the 19 man squad! So excited I nearly lost control of my bowels!

  88. Big Raddy says:

    RL My 11.01. If you were Clock End we must have sat close to each other!

    It is interesting about players who leave Arsenal to play for clubs we detest.

    I was a very big fan of David O’Leary, but after his appointment as Leeds manager I lost much respect for him.

    Didn’t do his career much good either!! Would that he could follow GG and become Spurs manager 🙂

  89. mickydidit89 says:

    I’ve gone off the sound of the word platt, so I don’t like him anymore.

  90. RockyLives says:

    Upper East I’m afraid. Although there was a pretty good atmos up there in those days and lots of singing (certainly louder than my upper west seat these days).

    I, too, loved O’Leary as a player (and with his number of appearances he should be a legend for Gooners) but his time at Leeds seemed to really highlight what a plank he was. And there were lots of stories about how no-one liked him (either at Arsenal or anywhere else for that matter).

    Platty doesn’t bother me. He’s not an Arsenal fan, but given his short time with us you can’t really expect that of him. When he was with us he did a good job and, as 26 says, his signing did help lift spirits after the tedium of the later GG years.

  91. 26may1989 says:


    When you say “old school”, you touch on an interesting point, one I vaguely recall being discussed here ages ago. The enmity between the two clubs is of course strong, but from what I recall growing up close to both grounds, there were people who (to a greater or lesser extent) shared allegiances, and I remember some older guys (not many but some) who actually had season tickets at both grounds. The rivalry between the two clubs was intense but it was different to the way things are now.

    Most fans of the two clubs (me included) have drifted away from the areas in which the grounds are located, which I think has had an impact. I think the generations that followed feel less rooted in or connected with either Tottenham or Highbury as places, and see them purely as places to go on matchday. Perhaps that has something to do with the changes in attitude.

    One thing I can’t stand, and something we don’t see on AA, is the use of racist epithets in referring to Spurs fans. I know some of their fans use the same terms themselves, but I find the use of any racist terminology repulsive. After all, there are so many other things that can be used to insult and ridicule Spurs and their fans……

  92. RockyLives says:

    Why is it that the Spuds are never referred to as having a billionaire owner in the same way as Chavs and Citeh?

    Joe Lewis is little different to Roman and the Citeh owners…

    Their spend over the last 10 years compared to ours is staggering and I have never understood how they manage to post a profit in their accounts every year despite the occasional big-money sale (like Berbatov to Utd).

  93. mickydidit89 says:

    I think they balance their books reasonably well in terms of transfer dealings, coupled with the fact that they presumably own the ground outright and have no more development payments. I am merely guessing.

  94. mickydidit89 says:

    Sorry Rocky,
    Having said that, you are spot on regarding them and a Billionaire owner.

  95. chas says:

    Tillykke med fødselsdagen, BR.

  96. RockyLives says:

    bad case of typinsons…

  97. RockyLives says:

    maybe they do balance their books, but their net spending on players is way higher than ours, plus they have to pay the wages. Their ground is relatively small. Still not quite sure how they do it.

  98. goonermichael says:

    I’m reading that Robin is in the squad now for the barca game

  99. RockyLives says:

    Wouldn’t that be something! On for the last 30 mins to score the goal that puts us through. Then fit to play the full 90 against the Mancs next weekend.

  100. kelsey says:

    the hundreds comment which is fitting so Happy Birthday Raddy who happens to share it with my eldest. 😉

  101. mickydidit89 says:

    Pass, no idea either.
    Saw your earlier news on Robin. Ecstatic!

  102. Big Raddy says:

    I was one of those who visited Highbury one week and WHL the next, until I developed a love for Barnet FC.

    I loved the relief of watching an entertaining and hopeless Spurs team amongst a group of deluded Spurs mates. There was no animosity apart from when we played each other, just lots of banter and healthy footie talk.

  103. kelsey says:

    i remain positive that we will lose tomorrow but the good thing is that it will be 3-2.

    i wish for rosicky to score a thirty yard pile driver.

    i wish for cesc to score a penalty

    i wish for no injuries

    then i woke up.

  104. Big Raddy says:

    Thank you for your kind wishes.

    Tusind tak Chas

  105. kelsey says:

    is sagna banned?

    who thinks apart from me that almunia will be in goal.

  106. goonermichael says:

    Rocky hopefully he’ll play against the mancs

  107. Big Raddy says:

    HB to your eldest Kelsey

  108. kelsey says:

    zei mir gezunt and don’t go skint (again) and thank you.

  109. Red Arse says:


    I am with you re the sound of Platt. It strikes me as the noise you hear when something nasty appears from the rear end of a cow and hits the concrete! 🙂

    26, Could not agree more about the racist epithets. It’s unpleasant and unnecessary.

    Chas, I already have trouble with your avatar looking so gorgeous, it’s confusing me when I address you, and now you are asking BR to tickle you or something. What’s going on? 🙂

  110. 26may1989 says:

    Belated happy birthday, Raddy. And interesting to read you were one of those who went to both grounds.

    Kelsey, Sagna’s in the squad for tomorrow, so unless someone’s screwed up, I guess his ban is done.

  111. Red Arse says:

    26, Kelsey,

    It was a one match ban. So he is Okelly Dokelly! 🙂

  112. mickydidit89 says:

    I too have considerable difficulties with Chas’ Gravatar.

  113. RockyLives says:

    Speaking of gravatars, is it just me or does 26’s one look a bit like a swastika?
    (Please don’t take offence 26 – I know these things are randomly created).

  114. Carlito11 says:

    Kelsey “who thinks apart from me that almunia will be in goal.” If the choice is you or Almunia, I’ll take you! 🙂

  115. 26may1989 says:

    I may be a bleeding heart, Guardian reading liberal, but no offence taken Rocky.

    In fact, having married into an Indian family, I no longer associate the swastika only with nazis, I also connect it with Indian religious stuff. There’s an annual ceremony when my kids and their cousins use coloured powders to make swastikas, so am not one to worry about what my accidental avatar does.

    But your implication is right, I must get round to sorting out a proper avatar.

  116. Red Arse says:


    I think 26’s gravatar looks like a leg in each corner wearing hobnail boots. 🙂

  117. mickydidit89 says:

    Yours looks like a “Thruppence”!

  118. Red Arse says:


    I am sure it does! 🙂

    What’s a thruppence? Animal, vegetable or mineral?

  119. RockyLives says:

    Thruppeny bits? I thought that was Chas’s gravatar 🙂

  120. RockyLives says:

    Yours is more like the back of a playing card to me.

  121. Red Arse says:


    looking at my gravatar, now you mention it, it looks like a confused sign showing little arrows pointing every which way, a bit like me really.

    But I seem to remember an old adage from somewhere that says, if you are not confused, you are ignorant or misinformed. That sounds like me too! 🙂

  122. 26may1989 says:

    Really, she’s got three?

  123. Red Arse says:


    Thruppenny bits, that’s rhyming slang for mammary glands, right? 🙂

    Still don’t know what a thruppenny is tho’.

  124. Red Arse says:


    It does look like the back of the 12 of Diamonds. 🙂

  125. Red Arse says:


    I have already admitted to being confused, but three what?

    I think you guys are pulling my weiner! 🙂

  126. RockyLives says:

    Correct Redders
    Other examples being:
    Eartha Kitts
    Oven Mitts
    Bristol Cities
    Walter Mittys

    I believe the original thruppenny was native to Mauritius and was hunted to extinction in the early 1800s by English colonists. Although Mauritians still maintain to this day that sometimes, on a quiet night, you can hear the mournful mating call of the lesser spotted thruppeny whispering o’er the treetops.

  127. RockyLives says:

    Remind me to never play cards with you.

  128. Red Arse says:

    Rocky,really? I have never heard of it.

  129. Carlito11 says:

    Rocky 😀
    Latest news is that Puyol is training but not likely to start- mind games aplenty! Fascinating stuff!

  130. 26may1989 says:

    Rocky, your Mauritius reference is closer to reality than you imagine: there’s a series of three mountains in Mauritus called Les Trois Mamelles, which is French for (yes, you’ve guessed it) three breasts. If you doubt me, see http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1461347

    And RA, you already had the answer to my oblique reference – see your 4.59. For more info re thrupenny bits, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrupenny_bit

  131. dandan says:

    26May in the early days 1959 onwards we would watch The Arse one week and the Spuds or hammers who both played alternate weeks to us, Then the famous Brown escort begun its travels,to away games. But I also saw most of the early spud European games with my DAD
    the banter in those days was humorous and friendly rather than the vile stuff we see on here from some opposition fans these days

  132. Red Arse says:


    You got me there! 🙂

    I googled it and now I am spoiled for choice!

    A thruppenny is;

    (a) Colloquial term for a lady’s “nether regions”. Similar in meaning to clopper, clunge and hairy axewound.
    (b)A coin. An old-fashioned expression for a thruppenny bit was a joey. A Joey was a silver threepenny piece. These were considered to be lucky.
    (c) Colloquial term for a lady’s t*ts.

    You are all naughty boys, stringing me along!! 🙂

    Not that I have ever heard of ‘clopper’ or ‘clunge’ either. 🙂

  133. dandan says:

    BBC have confirmed RVP is in the squad, hope I dont wake up kelsey, with both their first choice CH’s out that would be megga

  134. Rasp says:

    Some hilarious self diversion from what is really on our minds today. My contribution to the debate is…..jugs, melons & funbags 😕

  135. Red Arse says:


    What the heck is a “brown escort”?

    My day for learning new expressions!! 🙂

  136. Gooner in Exile says:

    Afternoon all.

    Didn’t someone used to have a head like a thrupenny bit if they couldn’t head the ball.

    Now referred to as a 50pence head?

    Interesting no ones been getting excited about RvPs inclusion in squad, I saw Carlito broke twitter rumours then announced in the squad, which GM has confirmed and also has been reported on radio also.

    I’m gladdened by the news but also a little worried. We need RvP for the PL run in more than ever, if he starts and breaksdown tomorrow night what will become of the remainder of the season?

    My Dad was one who went between WHL and Highbury every week just to watch games.

    I went between Highbury and Upton Park with my best mate who supported West Ham. We did this until we were 15/16, precisely to the point when for Arsenal v West Ham we stood on the North Bank together not in the singers as he could never have coped with that. Anyway West Ham won one nil from a screamer from Mike Small and he let out an almighty cry of joy in amongst a sea of red and white, he quickly retracted his arms and due to his age I think we survived, very scary for a second or two.

  137. dandan says:

    Red Arse read my Sunderland post again LOL
    Silver threepenny bits were put in The family Christmas pudding and the one who got it in their portion had good lucky all year

  138. Afternoon chaps

    Apologies from chary, the cricket wound kept him up last night and he’s been resting today unable to blog 😦 Get better soon chary

    My you have fun when I’m not around don’t you 🙄 as Rasp said the discussion was a great diversion from the collywobbles and yellow cards from Raddy 🙂

    Happy Birthday to kelsey’s no 1 too.

    26may – the racist word you couldn’t bring yourself to type is actually banned so as not to offend me amongst others – I have to have some things my way 😀

  139. I’m happy to sort avatars for anyone that wants one. If you don’t have a pic ready to use then give me and Rasp a clue and we’ll source one for you – all part of the service 🙂

    Fantastic news about van Persie being in the squad although I, like GiE, feel that he must be one more injury away from being out for the rest of the season 😦

  140. Carlito11 says:

    I hope you are furiously tapping something made of timber peaches!

  141. kelsey says:


    the old threepenny bits were goldie bronze weren’t they.

    hi peachers and thanks.

    GIE, i take your comments as i believe wenger wants the league more than anything this season and that was from day one.

  142. goonermichael says:

    Talking of threepenny bits. They wouldn’t be complete without raspberry ripples. 🙂

    Robin Van Persie

  143. I am Carlito, I am 🙂

    kelsey – I thought that about the threepenny bits too but reckoned I was probably too young to know for sure 😉

  144. goonermichael says:

    I used to get on the tube track at clapham common and put a threepeny bit on the rail. After the train had gone over it it would be 4 times the size and obviously a lot thinner. The wonders of a misspent youth

  145. Can I sigh that name with you gm – Robin van Persie

    I shall dream of him scoring now ……….

  146. I remember them being really thick, I wonder why they were?

  147. California Gooner says:

    Hi All.

    Since I’m here very late, I am wondering if I can take anyone up on a new topic. Does anyone else feel that it is a good thing that Alex Song won’t be playing in Barca? I know neither Diaby or Denilson played particularly well on Saturday, but either player seems more suitable to this game. Maybe even Aaron Ramsey, had he gotten some games in, although that would be way too risky for just now.

  148. kelsey says:

    we were right peaches, stupid coin if you ask me.

    used to geta a packet of 3 dominos for three pence.

  149. Red Arse says:


    Song has been great for most of the season but has gone off the boil lately. He has it in him to turn things around just as quickly.

    My choice, in the sort of game we are likely to experience against Barca, would be Diaby.

    Why? Well he was very poor on Saturday, but he is also capable of being really technically skilful and Barca might provoke him into “coming good” against them. Especially as he professes to want to play for them in the future.

  150. Red Arse says:


    I apologise if, in my ignorance, I have uttered colloquial words/slang that might offend a lady. Sorry! 😦

  151. goonermichael says:

    A bag of chips was 3d buses were only 2d

  152. Red Arse says:


    Hope your shoulder feels better soon.

    I am sure you could have thrown some light on !thruppeny! 🙂

    Hopefully see you tomorrow.

  153. 26may1989 says:

    Diaby – no. Please no.

    Denilson? I would have even an off-form Song ahead of him every day of the week, whatever the opposition, but Denilson would be ok in there.

    Would love Ramsey to have a go but it’s too soon for him.

    If Vermaelen were around, I’d say Kos for DM, but the idea of Squillaci playing tomorrow is a bit frightening.

  154. Red Arse says:


    I know I should not ask, but what is a 3d and a 2d? (dimension? Probably not.)

    Really showing my ignorance today! 🙂

  155. Gooner In Exile says:

    RA I think i agree with Diaby over any other right now due to stature, and ability to play with sublime skill, he should know he will not be on on the receiving end of bone crunchers against Barca so that could help, also it was noticeable that AW used AA23 away from home during his dip in an attempt for him to have the chance to gain form away from the groans of the Grove, perhaps Diaby would benefit from the same, as would Deni a lad who has been robbed of all his confidence.

  156. RA – in the old currency of pounds shillings and pence the money was denoted £sd – d was pence – 3d was 3 old pennies

  157. dandan says:

    The threepenny bit when it was discontinued was Eight Sided and indeed a Goldie bronze colour, but the original that pre dated these, were made of silver and discontinued because the metal used was worth more than the coins face value and easy to forge
    Bear in mind a threepenny piece/bit would easily pay for a bag of chips, in fact my school dinner money in the fifties was a shilling or 5 pence in today’s money.
    I can remember the outrage in 1965ish when petrol was increased in price to 4 gallons to the pound 25 pence a gallon

  158. dandan says:

    For comparison sake RA an American Dollar was worth five shilling/ 25 p back then

  159. Red Arse says:

    Thanks Peaches,

    I will shut up now and stop asking anymore questions, it’s just I find the terms oddly fascinating.

    I have always been a “what’s that? Who’s that?” type of person. 🙂


    I only saw the game on a stream, but I thought I heard frustrated groans etc whenever Denilson or Diaby touched the ball, and then dismissed it as my imagination.

    That’s horrible if you are confirming the crowd have been on their backs! No, not horrible ,,,,, appalling!

  160. Red Arse says:



  161. mickydidit89 says:

    Wowee, I leave you for two hours with the word “thruppence” and look what happens.
    “Tuppence”!! Back in two hours!!!!1

  162. Red Arse says:


    Don’t! I mean don’t tempt me! Not a thruppence, now it’s a tuppence! You devil!!! 🙂

    Well I am not biting! 🙂

  163. goonermichael says:

    Red ARse
    Chips were 3 dimensional but buses were flat 🙂

  164. mickydidit89 says:

    Being immature keeps me young, and anyway BR has banned us from discussing whatever may be happening tomorrow night.

  165. goonermichael says:

    A hat trick for Robin Van Persie

  166. dandan says:

    RA there were also a 6 penny piece, a shilling, a florin, a Half a crown, and a crown, colloquially known as a dollar. Oh and a ten bob note, There you are RA your sorted 🙂

  167. goonermichael says:

    Don’t forget farthings and groats dandan

  168. Gooner in Exile says:

    I’m awaiting a tangerine card from BR 😀

    RA unfortunately it was not imagination, the lad next to me everytime Denilson missed a challenge said “oh surprise Denilso misses another tackle”. No comment if he did win a tackle, have no stats but I would think he won more than lost.

    Admittedly neither are in great form but I refuse to believe they don’t have the ability to be useful to our efforts this year, unfortunately the jeering mentality has returned, people seem to forget what it did to Eboue and NikB a couple of seasons back.

  169. dandan says:

    Mike….. groats as you well know predate even my young self, 🙂 but farthings and halfpennies I had forgotten thank you

  170. goonermichael says:

    When I went to see us play a CL game (Kiev I think) someone next to me went on and on about Denilson being “shit” A friend of mine told me he used to get the same from a ST holder moaning about Lee Dixon so I supposed it’s always happened.

  171. mickydidit89 says:

    Sorry lads, its all kicking off down here in the woods so best away be.

  172. Red Arse says:

    Dandan, GM,

    My mind has frozen up. I will have nightmares now about half a crown, half a shilling and a full groatt.

    Too much, too much!! 🙂

    GIE, I really hate those b’s.

    They have a right to be disappointed but that does not entitle them to boo, curse or groan at any Arsenal player.

    What is the point? There is none. 😦

    Anywho, I am offski. Tomorrow guys!

  173. 24 hours and counting

  174. Gooner In Exile says:

    Gooner M, you are right, Lee Dixon did get a load of shite from the fans, remember when he lobbed Seaman from 40 yards out?

    Another few players were also regular targets…..David Hillier, Perry Groves, Niall Quinn (especially when Paul Parker out jumped him for 90 minutes one game), Steve Morrow and Andy Linighan. Ian Selley was another youngster often singled out for criticisms. Some were indeed probably not up to snuff for the Arsenal, but some did score important goals fpr the club.

    Hillier was one I always felt sorry for, as a young player he often looked for passes and they didn’t always come off, they were given no time to grow by the fans. Thankfully Wengers policy of trusting in youth has required the fans to give more encouragement to the youngsters.

    But it is interesting as London said recently with Jack he can do no wrong (even when criminally giving the ball away in the CC final on more than one occasion in silly areas), Nik B is written off, perhaps due to nationality. It wasn’t so long ago Djourou was also being written off. We seem to forget the youngsters from overseas ages, and expect them all to be Cesc at 17.

  175. chas says:

    Haha, you’ve all been having a good laugh. 🙂

    Sorry if my avatar has been causing confusion!

    The talk of halfpennies reminded me of this song that my old man used to sing….god knows why.

  176. Does anyone consider they might be sober during and after the Barca game to write a match report?

  177. SharkeySure says:

    Wot a time to appear, just as Peaches is flexing her muscles and twisting arms….

    I’ll just sneak back out quickly and quietly…nite all

  178. SharkeySure says:

    Chas, I hope your dad sang it better than they did !!

    Did it sell well….my guess is not, but hey – whaddoo I know

  179. Sharkey – you can stay, I’m just casting a line to see if anyone bites – no pressure

  180. Where’ve you been today – the chaps have had a lot of fun this afternoon 😀

  181. RockyLives says:

    A particularly silly day here on AA today. Splendid!!!

  182. Carlito11 says:

    Rocky- when the top of the page has those pics- what else could ensue? Quality!

  183. SharkeySure says:

    Yeah I noticed. I was quite disappointed that it took so long to deduce that it was actually the old threepenny coin. It was quite a trip round the houses (and back alleys RA !!) til the intended meaning finally came to the fore

  184. SharkeySure says:

    True Carlito…thats why you have to love this site above all others.

    Serious, frivolous, entertaining, therapeutic, funny, erudite, considered, thoughtful, and most of all -respectful, always !!

    I love AA

  185. Gooner in Exile says:

    Thankfully I should only have one half day visit with client and then home for pre match nerve settlers around midday.

    Unfortunately I can’t volunteer for match report this week, early start Wednesday morning.

  186. London says:

    I have just managed to read the post, what a gem, worth waiting for.

    Looks like we will have the dynamic duo tomorrow. Great stuff.

  187. RockyLives says:

    Evening London
    Worth reading the comments to – it’s been an amusing day. There was a bit of chatter about the Barca game, but then Raddy got very strict about people pre-empting his pre-match, so the discussion went off into some interesting byways instead.

    All I’ll say is, nice set of Thruppenies…

  188. RockyLives says:


  189. SharkeySure says:

    Apologies from me Rocky, cracking post today.

    I seem to forget my manners when I arrive so late to the party.

  190. RockyLives says:

    No need to apologise Sharkey. It seems a long time since I posted it! And the conversation since has been so brilliantly bonkers.
    This is a great site.

  191. Thanks for a great post Rocky, its a shame chary wasn’t well he’d have really loved it too.

    Might have to use the – you’ll have loads of time Rocky, being so many hours behind us – line. Could you if no-one else can?

  192. Big Raddy says:

    Thruppence could get me on a bus from Hampstead to the Hendon Odeon., but tuppence could only take me to the North Circular and Brent Bridge.

    And sixpence (a tanner) was pocket money until I lost my milk teeth and moved on to a shilling (a bob) and then the real height of wealth a half crown.

    Bloody hell, I am an old bugger (well not actually a bugger but you know what I mean – not that i have any problem with buggers as long as I am not the buggee)

  193. Big Raddy says:

    p.s. Kings Speech was great and is highly recommended.

    I see the Chavs won, could they get back into it?

  194. Big Raddy says:

    Nigella’s thruppennies – something to dream about…… Night All

  195. RockyLives says:

    OK Peaches
    I’ll be a pit pushed for time because after the Barca game (in the afternoon!) I have my daughter’s school play (in the evening).
    But if no-one else volunteers I’ll do a report. I fully expect it be an account of how we dumped Barcelona out of the Champions League. 🙂

  196. If that dream comes true we may be overun with bloggers wanting to wax lyrical about it, thanks 🙂

    I have to go to sleep, got a very important football match tomorrow ………. Night all

  197. RockyLives says:

    Night Peaches

  198. RockyLives says:

    Believe this or believe this not, but I went out for dinner with my wife tonight to a nice Italian restaurant in Toronto. I had not had a chance to read the menu when the pleasing young waitress came up and said: “I’m sorry, but we have run out of the grouper…”

    Of course, the idea that I might order the Platt de jour had never crossed my mind, but it was kind of weird to have written a post that involved the word ‘grouper’ (a word I have not heard in conversation for many a month or year) and then to go out to dinner and have that word thrust at me almost immediately.

    Some would call it serendipity, some coincidence. I prefer to call it an omen that we’re going to beat Barca tomorrow night.


  199. gnarleygeorge9 says:


    I watched parts of the blackpoo v chav game, & the former spud player Paul Walsh, @ 0-1, said that man utd were chelsea’s main rival for the title. He followed that up with “Arsenal are in the mix too” 😉

    I think that Arsene Wenger should incorporate the rowing term “lets lift our rating & go for a dozen”. Now would be a good time to win 6 games on the trot & then come out of the “power play” 6 points on top. Then coast home with 2 games to spare 😎

  200. gnarleygeorge9 says:


    Good bye.

  201. Evonne says:

    Rocky – that is hillarious – you think we will beat Barca, because a Canadian restaurant run out of groupers 🙂

  202. Evonne says:

    RVP. I do hope le Boss won’t play Robin tonight. We have a slim chance of winning in Barcelona and a huge one to win the League. We need Robin, not just tonight

  203. Gooner in Exile says:

    Totally agree Evonne, to risk RvP would be madness. But just maybe Jack has made him have a look at himself, I never doubted Jack would be available tonight but his knock would probably have kept others from our squad out. Is Robin really that fragile?

  204. Gooner in Exile says:

    If we progress tonight we’re going to play the reserves in FA Cup for rest of season right?

  205. Harry says:

    Morning all, how nervous? Butterflys already, but RVP just been there gives all a boost…….

    Personally I wouldnt play him, even if he passes the fitness test, if its tight and there is a chance with 15 / 20 to go then I would consider throwing him on….But we have the league in touching distance, if he got injured badly, would we regret it in the end?

    Its such a hard call and I’ll back wengers judgement, just hope we get the result we need, I think we’ll score 2 goals tonight, big night for Chesney, can he keep the goals out?

  206. Harry says:

    No GIE, we must play our strongest line up against United on saturday, the other season when we lost 4-0, it really hurt us mentally…….

  207. Evonne says:

    GIE – don’t even say that, please… I know that Arsene desperately wants the CL, but to rish both FA and PL, would be crazy. A couple more injuries and we are out of all the cups. Robin needs wrapping in cotton wool; my brother was like that – an excellent footballer, but always injured – broken legs, fingers, cheekbones, nose.
    I am outraged about Barca’s comment about our Jack!! How dare they???

  208. Gooner in Exile says:

    What have they said Evonne?

    Harry that’s why I suggested a total reserve & youth side, no one that could be psychologically hurt. The league is so finely poised any unnecessary injuries, and extra games would be too much.

    We have already played 46 competitive games, tonight is the 47th, if we progress tonight we have a minimum of 13 games to go, if we progress in both FA Cup and CL to the final we would play 20 more games (assuming no replays in 6th round).

  209. Evonne says:

    I hate mind games!! Mind you, there might be another angle to this – by discussing Wiltshire rather than Cesc, Guardiola might be implicating that they are no longer interested in our skipper. This could hurt Cesc’s ego and make him more determined to press for a move to Spain. Have I gone too far??

  210. Evonne says:

    Rocky – there are 2 fat magpies in my garden!!!
    SZCZESNY is an old polish word for LUCKY 🙂

  211. chas says:

    Platt de jour…..quality. 🙂

  212. chas says:

    Morning Evonne. Kick those geordies out of your garden!

  213. Gooner in Exile says:

    😀 Chas

  214. Rasp says:

    Morning all,

    gnarley, if you’re reading, I have no idea why your comment was left pending, its nothing that we’ve done, just a blip in the system that happens from time to time – don’t take it personally 😛

  215. Evonne says:

    Chas – ha ha ha, yes, they are fat, but not THAT fat

  216. Morning all

    gnarley – I’ve changed the word that caused your comment to go into moderation – hope that’s ok 🙂

  217. Harry says:

    GIE: Definitely we must send our best side to Man U irrespective of what happens tonight, lose on saturday, and the pressure would be increased 100fold on the PL run in, we havent got that many injuries (touch every bit of wood in my office), we can cope, stay strong and fight for every game now…..

    Anyway 1 game at a time, lets qualify tonight…….

  218. There’s a New Post …………

  219. dandan says:

    Morning all…….Whats the big deal Peaches, I was taught moderation in all things, why should a blog be any different 🙂

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