Going into the game on the back of the wonderful 7-3 versus Newcastle, the Gooner faithful were optimistic about the team’s ability to score goals but a little uneasy of our propensity to concede goals. Would The Arsenal be able to shore up the rearguard while maintaining our free-scoring form?
The line-up was unchanged with the Pod, Theo, Ox combination up front again.
Subs Martinez Mertesacker Rosicky Ramsey Coquelin Giroud Gervinho
Arsenal began the first half passing the ball well. Unfortunately it was to be the boys in purple’s best period of the game. After 5 minutes Santi had a fine effort deflected wide. Boruc in the Southampton goal started nervously treating the ball as a slippery bar of soap but Arsenal couldn’t capitalise. The game was entertaining on the eye, helter skelter but with few chances on goal.
Thomas Vermaelen made a fine saving challenge as Southampton gradually got into the game as their work rate continually outmatched the away side’s. When will Arsenal learn that they have to match the opposition work rate for any difference in class to show itself?
Arsenal had a few fine openings largely created by Jack’s industry in the middle of the park. A fine interception by the Ox forced a corner, but Arsenal’s dead ball situations were poor the whole evening. The midfield three were made to look disjointed as Southampton harried and closed down space.
A series of poor decisions from Podolski, Sagna and then Gibbs eventually resulted in a goal for the home side. Another poor piece of play from Sagna left Kos needing to make a great challenge to stop the Saints going two up.
Against the run of play, a Walcott free kick was put through his own goal by Do Prado with Koscielny lurking and Arsenal suddenly had a lifeline back into the game. An underserved goal and the away side immediately looked threatening.
A superb cross from the Ox found Podolski dithering on the edge of the area when he needed to be busting a gut to get into the six yard box. The half time whistle came at the wrong time with the Gunners pressing, Walcott correctly flagged for offside.
The second half started with a poor header from Gibbs and an early scare for Arsenal. Jack was booed for getting kicked in the face and the game continued with Southampton continually getting to the second ball first. On 56’ Szczesny passed within inches of the Southampton forward. This was followed by a good opening for Theo but he chose to shoot from outside the area when better options were available at the far post.
Arsenal needed to hold the ball up and Giroud was brought on for the disappointing Podolski. Unfortunately I’m not sure if Giroud won the ball in the air once for the rest of the game. Southampton continued to show more energy, passion and threat in all areas of the pitch.
The few opportunities Arsenal did have to break were halted by professional fouls both on Cazorla and later on Sagna. Arteta did something similar when megged by Ramirez, who impressed throughout. The same player had a goal disallowed after a sly push on Koscielny allowed him the space to turn and fire past Szczesny.
On 68’ a fine driving run from Gibbs ended in another dreadful cross from Sagna. Mr Consistency was consistently poor with his passing and crossing all game. The Arsenal away boys sang ‘Cmon Arsenal’ which we all know is code for ‘buck your feckin ideas up, you’re playing shite’. Another chance fell to Theo and he, again, failed to notice the better options available to him.
Ramsey and Gervinho came on for the Ox and Santi; the latter having struggled to find enough space to really influence the game today. Surely Rosicky would have been the better option for Santi in Arsenal’s attempts to find that little bit extra to break down the excellent Southampton defence?
Arteta produced a fine drive on 80’ and then Gervinho cut inside beautifully a few minutes later only to shoot well wide of the near post. Szczesny made a good block before Arsenal’s best chance to get the winner went begging when Gibbs failed to find a purple shirt when in acres of space inside the Southampton penalty area.
Theo’s final contribution was an appalling free kick which failed to get anywhere near the Saints’ box. Giroud must have wondered why he had been brought on.
All in all, a pretty dismal performance from the Gunners. Southampton had played on Boxing Day, so I was expecting Arsenal to seem the fresher of the two teams at some point in the last twenty but, disappointingly this never happened. Southampton fought and harried, with no little skill too, and were unlucky not to win the three points, it has to be said.
Ratings
Szczesny– Made a few good blocking saves in a game of few clear cut chances. His distribution was up to his usual standard……7
Koscielny – Fought hard in a rearguard action the whole team didn’t seem to expect……7
Vermaelen – Played reasonably well without ever showing signs that he’s a great captain……7
Sagna – Poor for most of the game. If he does want to leave, you’d think he would be trying to impress potential suitors ….5
Gibbs – Looked threatening at times but failed to find a dangerous final pass. …..6
Wilshere – The best of a poor bunch. …..7
Arteta – Reliable in his efforts as always but must be given support by the rest of the team when continually put under pressure …….7
Cazorla – Santi’s worst game in an Arsenal shirt. When he did find a few inches of space his passing was off. We cannot always rely on the Spanish maestro for inspiration. Rosicky should have been brought on in his place …..6
Podolski – Looked disinterested again. Dropping deep and passing the ball back to the centre backs doesn’t cut it, Lukas ……5
Walcott – Theo seemed wary of upsetting the locals with a display we are all too familiar with before this season began …..6
The Ox – Looked good in flashes but continues to lack an end product …..6
Subs
Giroud – Didn’t affect the game as we hoped he would. His touch seemed off ….6
Ramsey – Was Ramsey brought on to play in the Santi role. He huffed and puffed but produced little …..6
Gervinho – Aside from the one nice cut in and shot, he seemed clueless as to how to beat a full back or even stay upright! …..5
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Morning all.
How much incentive to the players need ? 3 times they were pegged back by Newcastle (giving away dreadful goals) but finished the night in a fantastic way.
Now we could see ,not for the first time that the players stumbled out of the blocks in a game that they they really should have had no instructions other than to put lowly Southampton in their place.
All players get off days but i agree with others that as a unit we were pretty dire and as usual I ask myself why does this happen so frequently.
Some players are out of form, others not good enpugh, the tactics employed are questionable and even one or two signings won’t resolve it. Worrying times ahead.
I wasn’t too concerned about yesterday’s game – any evening match in the middle of winter against the likes of Southampton, Stoke, Sunderland, Wigan etc are always gonna be hard, whether its the Invisibles or this weak squad, plus the fact that Theo and Alex were obviously not going to make an effort against their old club and the fact that Podolski was in one of his “Herr Wenger, U vant me to play New Years day against de Southampton? Ich glaube nicht!” moods. So basically we started with 8 real players of which Szczesny continues to be useless at clearing the ball – he’s always putting the defence under stupid pressure, which last night led to their first goal. I would’ve thought that that would be the easiest part of being a goalkeeper – just clear the bloody ball. The biggest problem though was Sagna – since his return from injury he’s got worse in every match and yesterday was probably his worse match ever for us plus his shouting at Alex is just pathetic.
I won’t bother about Ramsey and Gervinho coz we all know this squad has no depth but at least Gerv will disappear for 2 months now. As for the Swansea cup match, I’d play a lot of reserve players coz if Swansea start the game like they did against us a month ago then we’re loose anyway and if not, so let some of the squad players have a chance.
Working out on the % of influence of the starting team have on the game by the ratings given above (4-2-3-1 system):
Player Ratings:
“Centre Spine”
Szcz: 7 (7%)
Verm: 7 (3.5%)
Koz: 7 (3.5%)
Arteta: 7 (7%)
Wilshere: 7 (7%)
Cazorla: 6 (6%)
Walcott: 6 (6%)
Total: 40% (out of 60%)
(Left and Right sides)
Sagna: 5 (5%)
Gibbs: 6 (6%)
Podolski: 5 (5%)
Chamberlain: 6 (6%)
Total: 22% (out of 40%)
Grand Total: 62% out of 100% chance of winning. (Average chance).
So a draw was a fair result.
Playing ratings from http://www.whoscored.com
http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/615128/LiveStatistics/England-Premier-League-2012-2013-Southampton-Arsenal
There has been a lot of talk about the lack of effort or work rate from our team. Some don´t feel it was really evident. I think it was evident, and we looked too casual, and Southampton did outwork us. I don´t know if anyone feels the same but I would split the work rate of a team into 2 brackets, those being whether we are in posession or not.
We certainly look a better team when we close down in the Barca style by hunting the opposition quickly, and for me some of that was missing last night. By far the bigger culprit for me last night was how hard the players worked when we had the ball. There was practically no movement from players off the ball to provide options. I said yesterday we have good passers of the ball in Jack, Santi and Arteta, so if they are struggling to find good options then it is most likely that the options are not being made available.
I thought the combined movement of Theo and Podolski was very limited so our midfielders rarely had anything decent to aim for. The result of this is either sideways or backwards passes, or attempting passes in desperation that just aren´t there and losing posession. I have championed Theo to become a top striker for some months now and he has most of the required strengths for it with pace, a good shot, and a cool head in front of goal, but if he really wants to be a top striker he needs to realise that working hard to provide space for passes from midfield and to keep pulling defenders around is also vital. He looked very much as if he felt his only job was to wait in a static position up front in expectance of someone putting him through on goal for him to score. Obviously we want that to happen as well but as he is not the biggest of strikers he needs to move about more to provide space for forward passes from midfield. If I were Arsene I would show him a video of both Suarez and Hernandez this morning to show him how hard they work with their movement as smaller strikers.
Chas fair report of an uninspiring performance.
Maybe too fair. 😦
Kelsey I think we’ve seen so much up and down from the players this year because they rest on their laurels too often, string a few results together, Southamton….stroll in the park….oh shit. Well at least that how it seems.
But too many players (as I have said for a while) do not take responsibility for the teams performance, passing each other into the shit on far too many occasions, but they have take the responsibility away from themselves, players that were doing this too often for me yesterday are the experienced heads, Sagna, Vermaelen, Arteta, Podolski.
Danny id like to know what you think Szczesny’s options are, he is carrying out the managers wishes, attempting to keep possession, with Theo up front a long clearance is just going to give the ball away, especially when their defence is dropping deep.
Morning all, Chas thanks for the undertaking the thankless task of writing up another dull/listless display by our so-called football team.
I’m passed the stage of anger with our under-performing team and am trying to prepare myself for spuds singing at me next season “Thursday night, channel 5; Thursday night, chan-nel 5”
At least we get to see our european games for free next season, Yay !!!
I’d also like a return to tippy tappy football, because at least that required us to be close to each other, now it’s sideways and nowhere, with zero movement.
Now I know Project Youthhas been considered a failure, but we played better football with young inexperienced players who played for their manager and as he asked than we are currently doing with more experienced players who are not.
I so much want to begin the year in a positive mood but it´s not easy after that.Struggling to remember a worse performance from an Arsenal squad – and I´ve been watching a long time !They really looked like a bunch who had never seen each other before – never mind not played together . There IS something wrong at the Arsenal folks .
Fair point GIE but way too often his passes put our defenders under unwanted pressure. If you watch the goal again from last night you’ll see it starts from a bad Szczesny pass/delivery. I agree that just booting it up field with only Theo there is probably/maybe a waste but he needs to concentrate more before just passing it to the nearest unmarked defender.
Its not dropping points i mind so much,sometimes a point away is a good result, even lack of quality, its when the simple things are not done right, for me passing is not a ‘quality thing’ passing and passing well is a basic requirement, and when the team dont perform the basics it upsets me.
Hi spanishg, there is something wrong inside Arsenal.
Obviously a large portion of the blame for yesterday has to go to the players, but the ‘establishment’ is the root cause of what’s wrong. The ethos of the owner, Board and mangement percolates through to the players. This isn’t just one poor game when we have failed to play to our potential, it is one of many and the frequency of such performances is increasing.
@RASP – The Establishment
They look at this season so far and see we are 5th with a game in hand, into the knock-out stages of the Champions League and expect the annual Spurs collapse to arrive soon. This is why they are not worried in the least – Wenger is doing his job to their complete satisfaction.
BTW I’ve heard that Yossi Benayoun is probably going to rejoin us till the end of the season. West Ham have returned him to Chelsea, and they’ve offered him to us or Newcastle and as he lives in London etc
Danny i’d like to see Yossi back, think he could play more to the style of the manager than Podolski out on the left.
AW has said that Henry will not be returning.
Are we missing Pat Rice?
Also, why wasn’t Rosicky brought on rather than Geronimo ? Surely we needed a forward driving midfielder than a winger who is badly out of form ?
I have to say 70% of our substitutions don’t work.
For me Jack, Santi, Arteta are a great midfield three. We are all clambering for Walcott to sign and play up front. We all like chambo on the right wing, so i think we need to strengthen down the left and a couple of defensive options.
Like charybdis says 70% of our subs dont work so we have to get an established and good starting 11
Thanks for the match report chas. you made it sound a lot better than it was though. That was the worse I’ve seen us for ages
I’m not clambering for Walcott to sign
GM, we seem to excel in plumbing new depths in dire performances – we thought Bradford was bad then along comes that abomination of a performance, motivation is clearly an issue with our players.
Who is looking forward to the Swansea game ? A team who put 2 past us at our place now stand in the way of us progressing in the only chance of a trophy we have left(barring a miracle in Munich) amd we are at their place too.
Oh goody. 🙂
Sorry not all clambering.
Surely “clamouring” goonerjake ?
I think we’ll beat City and Liverpool
Danny,
In your post @ 9:49 you inadvertently coined a new word for our current team.
We were blessed to watch the”Invincibles” and now we have to watch the “Invisibles”
Maybe Wenger should have rang the changes, Fergie made 5/6 changes between 29th and New Years.
Admittedly, their squad is stronger, but I have strong suspicion, Rosicky, Jenkinson, Giroud, Gervinho, Rmasey might have disposed of Southampton with their willingness to play and get in the first team.
@GunnerN5
I wondered if anybody would notice that……….
We just played on Saturday, and Wenger rests NO ONE for a winnable match against a bottom feeder? Bad coaching decision.
The Bells of St Mary’s were definitely ringing for Southampton, but they were tolling for our team!
I am in agreement with Rasp, that, although we are all disappointed with the performance yesterday, it hardly comes as a surprise.
That was not a ‘one off’ performance – far from it – it is almost becoming the norm.
Let’s be honest, the game against New Castle was exhilarating and fun, and we all loved it, but surely no one could have failed to notice that we had our share of good fortune, and until the 70th minute, approximately, we were scoring and then with remarkably shoddy defending throwing away the advantage.
Without the own goal at Southampton, I suspect we would have lost because our attack was non-existent, and we never looked like scoring.
Danny
I cannot accept that Theo and the Ox weren’t going to make an effort against their old club, just look at players we have sold who invariably score against us.
I have said for about a year there is something fundamently wrong withn the club that we are now seeing performances like yesterday far too often and I have to say after giving him the benefit of the doubt up to now, the buck is firmly planted with Wenger as he seems not able to motivate the players to a consistent level of even two seasons ago.
https://twitter.com/MickTheGooner/status/286443427980275712
From reports on Sky and Talksport it seems that Theo will sign a new contract today, after AW agreed to his demands. Well we will see.
As a consequence AW will not try and buy Zaha from Place.
I am very lukewarm about Theo, so, altho I have always thought he would stay with Arsenal I am less than thrilled if this news proves to be true.
If Wenger fielded Jenkinson, Rosicky, Ramsey, Gervinho and Giroud and got the same result, we would have heard “shouldn’t change the winning team”, or worse “Wenger took it too easy”. Wigan Away in 2010/11 anyone?
But because he didn’t and we get the draw its all his fault for not freshening things up.
That is basically one of the no win situations.
I’d be interested to look around the league and see just how many players were rotated over the 4 games they all had to play.
Chas. Thank you for being so even handed. We were not THAT bad, and an away point is a fair return. 4 wins and a draw since Swansea is a good return.
RA. No arguing with the inability to score yesterday. Good S’ton defending or poor AFC attack?.
I’m with you on Theo RA
kelsey. It is all well and good saying there is something fundamentally wrong at the club and the buck stops with AW but ….
Explain how the man who can motivate a 6 goal 2nd half cannot inspire us yesterday.
I can understand the inconsistency in the players but not in the manager. Or am I misunderstanding your comment?
GIE. 12.28 Good point.
Theo signing? If true it can only be a positive.The fallout from him not signing would be millions of words about how we are a selling club/not a big team/ not ambitious etc etc
As to whether Theo proves to be worth his new contract (if it exists) time will tell.
Hi GiE, I take your point. I agree with what you have been saying – we may as well give the youngsters a chance if the experienced players aren’t performing.
It would be madness to play Sagna in our next game, he’s worse than off form, he’s a liability. It’s not just the stray passes, its the fact that he gets skinned regularly and fails to cut out crosses as he used to.
Coquelin, Eisfeld, Jenks (maybe Gnabry) and Rosicky should all be considered as options for players who are currently first choice
Asa regards the negative comments on Theo’s performance: it is true he still has a lot to learn to be a striker and he, like the rest, needed to work harder. But he did provide the assist for our goal and produced our only shot on target in the entire game.
Their keeper was nervous and unreliable, we should have tested him with shots from all angles and had players closing in on him to mop up any spills etc.
Walcott Talks Today
Theo Walcott’s representatives are in talks with Arsenal today. He didn’t help his cause in the 1-1 draw with Southampton…
Theo (wether or not he got the assist) should never be taking our freekicks. or corners for that matter
Chas, 🙂
Please accept my apologies for not complimenting you, earlier, on a fine post match appraisal.
Player ratings by their nature are subjective, and coloured by any number of extraneous matters as well as an author’s personal traits, but I could not cavil at those you have given, other than to say that I would like you to be my judge, should the occasion arise, as you are clearly generous of heart!! 😀
For me, Szczeney would score a 6, and Jack, Kozzer and the Verm maybe deserve exculpatory 5s, while all the rest would struggle with miserable scores between 1 and 4.
“Carrot and stick” is my mantra — players get bloody big multi-million pound contracts for the carrot, and that has to be balanced with draconian penalties when they scew up and do not deliver.
This lot are not delivering! No more time for nicey, nicey for me!!
Sagna had trouble controlling the ball yesterday. He missed a pass and let it go out for a throw at least once but I think more. I don’t know what’s going on with him. he played well even when his brother died. Maybe it’s because he hasn’t been offered a new deal. maybe he hasn’t been offered a new deal because of his form and injuries.
I agree about that free kick yesterday gm, although the fact that Theo wants to be involved means he’s not hiding like some of the players and that is a good thing. I think he takes a good corner and since he can’t head the ball I don’t see that as a problem. If we had proper leaders on the pitch, the decision on the free kick could have been handled professionally instead of players were virtually wrestling for the ball.
exculpatory. I’d better google that
I think Theo has become little selfish from last few games, Agaisnt newcastle also many a times rather then crossing or passing he shoots. Yesterday game also in second half poldi was free in middle but rather then passing or crossing he went for glory and left with wide shot…
I agree Manthan, strikers tend to be selfish by definition, but Theo’s decision making definitely needs to improve if he is to continue to be given chances as the lone striker. The one thing you can’t fault him on is his finishing.
Rasp,
Having agreed with your previous comments, I am slightly bemused that a miss-hit cross from Theo that resulted in an own goal, and a long range, no hope shot, when other better options were available, are put forward as reasons to commend him.
We are really scraping the bottom if that is considered to be an acceptable aspiration, and if applied to the real world of work would swiftly lead to the infamous words ” we have to let you go”!
gm – that’s a bonus that Gervinho wil be missing 😳 he was pretty embarrassing when he came on against the saints.
Rasp disagree on his finishing rasp. He’s no Robble Fowler
@kelsey
I payed close attention to Theo’s body language yesterday and it was obvious he had no intention of “overdoing” it against his old team, he even seemed releaved his goal was given offside and I felt the same about Alex too. Yes you’re right that they’re have been ex Gunners who’ve scored against us or worse (O’Leary), but Southampton is not Arsenal and for Theo and Alex it was a very emotional day, Alex got a great reception when he was substituted. I’ve no doubt at all that against Man City in 10 days time we’ll see the same 11 playing totally motivated.
At least Gervinho kicked the ball in the general direction of the goal once.
How is Pod getting off scott-free? IMO he was worse than Sagna. At least Sagna showed for the ball and tried. Pod was so poor that Gibbs couldn’t get forward thanks to the German’s inability to involve himself in either attack or defence.
We’ll beat City Danny. I’m sure of it
Hi RA, in the context of the game Theo was no better/worse than any other player, so I agree with you … but its not fair to focus on just him. We should have been testing the keeper with many more shots … from Theo and the other midfielders.
Unfortunately we were so disfunctional that we failed to create more than a handful of shooting opportunities – there were a few occcasions when we could have taken a shot and chose not to.
What I couldn’t undersatnd is why we kept lumping the ball high in Theo’s direction. I’m not sure that’s a good tactic when Giroud is up front, but with Theo its a total waste.
Rasp I agree he is great finisher and a great professional i guess he is trying to prove he is good finisher and he can play in the middle so he goes for shooting most of the time.. But anyhow those all things will come automatically but now he has became good finisher and consistent but still I think he will be good if he plays wide in few games and agaisnt small team he can play middle.. OG in middle is better then theo. Theo is better finisher then OG but OG height is very important so i would like to see OG in middle and theo in wide…. anyhow he will get chance to score from wide,,,
I think we forgot about him as he was subbed Raddy. Same reason i think it’s harsh to have ago at Gervinho when he came on for a short time with the team all playing shit after not playing for a while.
Fair point Raddy, the Pod was (not for the first time) a passenger. It was a poor team performance and 10 poor individual performances.
I agree Mantha, Theo can probably score as many goals from out wide as the centre and he has a better chance of getting behind the fullbacks than our other options for that position.
gm, Theo is no Ian Wright either, but he is a young player who has (finally) improved and we don’t know how far that improvement will stretch.
Rasp @1:03, back to agreeing with you! 🙂
I guess Poldi is still trying to settle in EPL. BFG took an year for settling. he gets tired after playing a game and next game he is not able to give 100% against newcastle he was very good. I guess AW should rest him for 1 of the match if we are playing 2 games in a week as german leauge is very slow in compare to English so he needs time…
Just to annoy LB I would like to point out that we had 2 outfield players who did OK. Koscielny and JW. Perhaps not Jack’s greatest game but he never stopped running and trying to inject some pace and enthusiasm.
Any way, once Theo has ‘signed da ting’ we can stick him out wide again and he’ll have to put up with it 😆
Manthan. Good point about Pod. He could use a rest and it would make sense to start Rosicky at the weekend
Yeah Rosicky is better option then ramsey. I still don’t understand wenger tatics for Ramsey most of the time he is played out of position he can be good MF a holding MF not AMF like santi and Rosicky…..
This is amusing …..
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/419867/20130102/luka-modric-alex-song-tottenham-arsenal-real.htm?
I agree with you BR.. JW always gives 100% for everygame he run hard for the game he tackles he apply pressure he is best player so far in dis season and koz was superb yesterday he read the game well and injected space too while defending…..
Song deserved it… Any player who leave arsenal will become flop who knows nasri now. only BSR is success I pray to god that dis time chesky or citeh win the EPL i don’t wanna see BSR lifting trophy,.,,,,,,,
Raspers, re.your 12.59 – would it be cruel to say that our squad will be strengthened by Geronimo’s departure ?
CharyB, 🙂
NO!
Gervinho did more down the left wing in 15 minutes than Podolski did in the previous 75.
This does not mean I think Gervinho is good it’s just that he is more effective most of the time than the Lard Arse German or LAG as I shall call him from now on.
The performance of Theo yesterday was reminiscent of Jermaine Defoe, and I dislike Defoe, there is no doubting he is a good finisher but he is a terrible centre forward due to his lack of awareness of others around him, without Bale and Lennon Spuds would be midtable fair.
What most of us saw last season was that he had finally found his feet out wide, numerous assists and the occasional goal, what you want from your wide man….but RvP was our most prolific chance maker as well as goalscorer, that is what a good centre forward can do, take the shot when it’s the best option, pass when it’s the best option.
One moment yesterday stood out as a Defoe moment, the shot wide by Theo when Podolski was bursting into the box one touch into his path and I think we would have been celebrating a win.
Redders, is it true that in his 15 minute spell Geronimo twice fell over his own feet, to much mirth from the home fans ?
Yes he did chary …
GiE, definitely Theo is better out wide, but could also be our best current option in the centre for certain games or if Giroud is not fit. I’d play Giroud in the middle primarily because he can really only play in that position.
Would you really have celebrated if we’d got an undeserved win? I think I’d have experienced embarrassed relief 😳
BR
It is a very British thing to think well of a player because he “never stopped running”. I take a more Spanish approach to the players I want to see at Arsenal: speed of passing and speed of movement.
It’s what Cazorla provides pretty much every game but as I have said before he cannot do it all on his own.
The best football we have played this season is when Cazorla had an attack minded partner in the midfield.
Wilshere is not attack minded in my view, he loves a sliding tackle, when he recieves the ball he shields it well and then he runs with it,
why, why, why?
Wilsere is not very fast:
His running slows the breaks down and by the time he finally does pass the oppostion have regrouped and we lose the initiative.
Wilshere’s trade mark used to be slide rule, defence splitting passes.
Show me one, just one that he has made since his return?
All this is irrelevant, of course, becasue Wenger will play Wilshere every game for the length of his contract, we will see yesterday’s game again and again.
Cazorla, Rosicky Arteta
Job done or if we have to.
Cazorla, Rosicky, Wilshere
Theo’s stats last season:
Premier League 8 goals, 11 assists
In all comps: 11, goals 12 assists
This season at the halfway point and before any FA cup games:
Premier League 8 goals, 8 assists
In all comps: 14 goals, 11 asists
This is a player who is improving. His stats for the prem are already nearly as good for the whole of last season and his stats for all comps have surpassed last season at the half way mark.
The cynic in me really hopes he doesn’t lapse backwards if he gets a new deal and the money his agent wants.
Motivation, or perhaps lack of it from our players was one of the core reasons for yesterday’s terrible performance and why it was such a pain to watch. The fact that performances like yesterday even against bottom table teams are quickly becoming the norm indicates that there is a serious problem in the club (I suspect it begins in management, I have never seen a bunch of players as unmotivated as yesterday’s team). Surely motivating players to get out there and give their all is one of the most important duties of a manager.
So The Bar Codes have officially given the Chavs permission to speak to Demba Ba, and that after the players agent/hanger-on/parasite said they wouldn’t be considering Chelsea.
I’m not sure on this one, whether it’ll be a bullet dodged(i.e. when he signs for us his left knee will explode when he gets up from the table) or he scores a hatful and pushes the Chavs out of sight up the table.
The chavs may represent all that is wrong with football but they get a move on with getting players in and don’t faff around till the last few days of the transfer window sniffing around for late bargains.
Gie spot on mate… I was telling same thing other day vs newcastle also poldi was in the middle and walcott went for cute weak foot finish he could have crossed… difference great forwards and forwards is dis….
Well done Chas – not an easy game to write up.
Personally I think your ratings are too generous to all but the GK, CBs, Jack and Santi.
I was very angry and frustrated after the final whistle yesterday.
Today, on reflection and with a suitable amount of time having passed, I am still very angry and frustrated.
It’s all very well looking at the transfer window, but the array of internationals on display for us at Southampton was more than talented enough to win that game (on paper).
So what went wrong (on grass)?
I have no idea, but whatever it is – that collective collapse in ability, effort and morale – it is happening more and more often.
Several have said yesterday was our worst performance of the year. Maybe – but it has plenty of competition (Norwich away – no attempt on goal until the 92nd minute; Swansea at home – ditto; Bradford away).
We didn’t catch a cold yesterday.
We have a chronic condition and it’s getting worse.
Can Dr Wenger cure it? Who knows?
It’s interesting to read all the different theories of who should play, and where (“Jack’s not an AM; Theo should be out wide; Giro should start; Rosicky should have played”).
I honestly don’t think that tinkering with tactics or formation would have made any difference to that performance. There was a lethargy throughout the entire team and that has to be mental, not physical. In which case, why should we expect the replacements to be any better?
I still hope (rather than expect) that AW will turn it round but I am far more worried this season than I was last.
Mr Rock, I think we are permanently afflicted and a few good performances here and there are like mirages and don’t last.
Agree that on paper what we had on the pitch should have been enough to defeat relegation fodder and how many “kicks up the arse” have our underperforming players had in the last few months ?
Too many(more than they need) or not enough as the message doesn’t seem to be getting through.
As Swansea had the measure of us last time round I don’t look forward to the weekend.
True Chary
The problem is, Wenger sounds as mystified as the rest of us.
The thing is though, Mr Rock, Wenger is paid £7.5m a year to sort it out – all that happens to supporters like me is we get the mickey taken out of us for losing to the likes of Bradford, or only drawing against relegation fodder like Villa and the Saints.
Rasp, you have helped me adjust my view of Walcott over the past year. As of now i would say, not desperate to keep him, BUT i am afraid to lose him, for many reasons. Also, i like a somewhat selfish striker, i think the great ones are focused on scoring first. I think he will become a little more aware of others around him after he feels that he has shown that he is a scorer. he has the basic skills to assist already, doesnt need to develop anything new for that…
… and to your fear that he will slide backwards after he gets his money– i dont think so, because he looks like he really has a point to prove about being a great striker. he has wanted it for years, and finally has a chance. I dont think he is just performing for a contract..mostly because he feels it is his turn- after rvp.
So Sturridge has gone to the ‘dippers(as confirmed by dippers dot com) to make way for Ba and they have some help for Saurez.
Hi JNYC, 🙂
You have been influenced by the Rocket, whereas I have been trying, and failing, to influence him!
These things are all concomitant with the notion of yin and yang, or rather more quixotically, the inverse square law, that states that a specified physical quantity is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the source of that physical quantity, or to you and me, my influence on the Rock star is inversely proportionate to the distance of Canada to London when applied to his influence over you!
Theo should not be thinking of being a ‘great’ striker. That will always be outside his compass, instead he should concentrate on being a ‘good’ striker, which requires more than the ability to strike a ball well, and must include the ability not to run down blind avenues or keep falling over!! 😀
JYNC,
Or — having just noticed you had attributed your reforming zeal regarding Theo to Rasp (who never previously was enamoured of our contract avoider) and not Rocky, (who loves him) I will need to encompass it within another mathematical law!!
Damn! 🙂
Hi all
I’m going to try and convince our Sheep to write a post for Saturday as he’s on the spot in Swansea, so if that works we only need posts for tomorrow and Friday. Any offers?????
Quick, hide it’s Peachy looking for a post.:(
My inspiration for posts is down the crapper at the moment, Peachy, I feel a leetle bit jaded.
Agree with too many posts here to single out but RA at 1251,your last three paragraphs ring my bell loudly!
As for motivation and Wenger´s apparent inability to achieve it, again, agree , but have you seen him on the bench? He´s squirming around , almost embarrassed at times. When I see him like that I always feel like I´d like to pick him up by the neck and give him a bloody good shake and shout at him to sort it out.
I hate to make comparacens with the Red Nosed One but do you honestly believe he´d stand for any of our lack of effort – and it is a lack of effort. Anyone who watched the game last night knows that we showed very little effort, and what´s worse for me is that they didn´t seem to give a shit!! As a fan I found it embarrassing and it´s unforgivable.
For me only two players came away from last night with any credit – and TV , out captain – wasn´t one of them. He hasn´t just been poor this year, he´s been awful , and as a motivator he´s non existent.Until we get a skipper on the pitch who ACTS like one then nothing is going to change.
Last paragraph “our captain” , not “out captain” – although maybe that´s what I was getting at!!!!
RA, i was in the sell walcott camp, now that its too late, i want to keep him and i do see some real potential now.
Hi SpanishG, 🙂
You are making the point better than I did! 🙂
I just cannot stomach the man, but Fergie is a great manager, and motivator, who gives the impression that he applys a warm grasp around the errant player’s genitals if they let the side down.
Many of the Utd players have been ‘rested’ when they have screwed up in a game, or have not been as tactically aware as they should have been.
Some of our guys appear blithely casual and unaware in the next game, as if they did not have stinkers in the previous match, and then repeat the same mistakes!
Ferguson and even Mancini seem to take the attitude “you are paid huge salaries – so I want huge commitment from you – or fook off!!!”
Instead, our best players have said, in affect, “there are too many losers, with the wrong attitude in this team, but nothing is going to change, so I am off to win trophies elsewhere, and I will earn a bigger salary to boot!”
As an Arsenal man, I want our manager to lay down the law too and shake up this mental decline, even if it he tarts it up as an iron fist in a velvet glove! 🙂
Hope you are right, Johnnie, 🙂
Peaches I am heading abroad for a few days and as such it would really help if Sheep wrote the pre-match. Refreshing too.
But if we are stuck the hotel has wi-fi and I can write a few lines.
My take on Theo is his value to the club as a figurehead and not just his footballing ability. He has shown throughout the negotiations (whichever way they go) that he is a level headed and considerate bloke. Young, pretty, black, well-spoken, he is an advertisers dream and as such brings attention to the club.
We need an icon and post-Cesc TW is that man (though Ox is not far behind)
RA. “Some of our guys” ? Name names.
I assume Podolski had flu because he lacked any energy but him apart who didn’t work hard?
One can point to one run that Ox didn’t cover but he covered a lot of grass as did the rest of the team (IMO)
Laying down the law has never been Wenger’s style sadly, and I don’t think its about to change anytime soon. Without a manager like Ferguson who doesn’t take bs from anyone, I’m pretty sure United wouldn’t be where they are right now.
Sorry chas i didn’t realise you had the misfortune to write the post.
To answer Raddy I am sorry but I do blame Wenger to an extent. One only had to look at the table before kick off and though we had no devine right to win at least give it a go against a team we beat 6-1 at home.
Players are human beings and of course they can have a bad day or a bad patch but yesterday and on several other occasions this season the whole tea was out of sorts and just didn’t want it enough. You could tell after 10 minutes we were going to struggle and I say again we had a game less than all the other teams bar West ham, so to me for highly paid professional footballers this is not acceptable.
Wenger may well look frustrated as he has done several times already this season but he picks the teams,buys the players and just looking at what was a great manager it is sad to see that he can’t motivate the team consistenly as he once did.
Why Arshavin and Rosicky don’t get a look in is a mystery .they are just as good or bad whichever way you see it as others in the squad.
Raddy my friend you can’t keep defending this display it was shocking.
I fear I may have banged the Theo drum a bit too loudly. I want to keep him as he is a good player and possesses atributes that if exploited correctly can be devastating …. but mostly Theo has represented what I hope is a pivotal point in our post building of Emirates history = the time we are able keep our better players … and hopefully nick the best players from other teams (except the obvious big payers).
To that end, I do not want to read that “Theo has signed an extension to his contract and that is the extent of our transfer dealings for January”, but that we have also signed Zaha (substitute name for any player you think we need) to further strengthen the squad.
Kelsey
Rosicky has been injured so may not be match fit. I thought he would get on yesterday though. You are right about the squad being lethargic. someone has to take responsibility.
Kelsey
I can’t disagree with any of that.
kelsey. I am not defending the display. I am trying to keep things in perspective. We played poorly, picked up an undeserved point and got out-run by a team we beat by 5 goals not so long ago.
I do not accept it was a lazy performance, nor that Sagna was the root cause or should be sold, nor that AW cannot motivate his team, nor that the midfield trio cannot work together, nor that it was the worst performance of the season.
We had a bad night when for some reason the passing was dreadful, the players couldn’t find space, the shooting was non-existent and the crossing dire.
Saying something is wrong at the club tells us nothing, nor does picking upon individuals.
Raddy, 🙂
I love your singing and I also love your ability to look at things in different ways.
It is appropriate that we have just entered January as you remind me of the god Janus, after whom the month was named, because he gaurded the gates and could look back as well as forward.
Why? Well, because you always make me grin with your eloquently impassioned, and not entirely approving comments, when you write your spontaneous thoughts/comments during the game.
The following day, you write as if you have metamorphosed into a bastian of protectiveness, safeguarding the team and all the individuals therein! 😀
In answer to your question @ 4:48, I try to choose my words with some care when it comes to criticism of players that is not founded on indisputable facts. I do not always succeed.
However, using a generic but non-specific terminology makes clear my disappointment, yet allows others, such as you, to fill in the blanks as you will. [poor old Pod!] 🙂
My views about the inadequacies on view last night are a little more complicated than simply whether or not x or y have run a lot. But, again, I leave it to others to fill in the blanks with their own, personal bete noirs.
Why? Well for everyone who thinks ‘this’ — there are just as many who think ‘that’, such are the perils of writing on a public medium, and the inherent danger is we all get carried away with arguing about the specifics rather than agreeing with the general point!
Bet you wish you had not asked now? 😛
Raddy,
It does tell us something if one of our strikers shoots for goal and hits the corner flag! Ipso facto: he is boss eyed! 🙂
Or how about the guy who keeps letting the ball slip between his legs?
Ipso facto: Clearly he is a bandy legged fooker, who is shagging himself silly! 🙂
OK, you are blogfarting me Raddy, so on your head be it!!
An elderly Italian man who lived on the outskirts of Rimini, Italy, went to the local church for confession. When the priest slid open the
panel in the confessional, the man said:
“Father, during World War II, a beautiful woman from our
neighborhood maquis knocked urgently on my door and asked me to hide her from the Nazis. So I hid her in my attic.”
The priest replied: “That was a wonderful thing you did, and you have no need to confess that.”
“There is more to tell, Father”, said the man. “She started to repay me with sexual favors. This happened several times a week, and sometimes twice on Sundays.”
The priest said, “That was a long time ago and by doing what you did, you placed the two of you in great danger, but two people under those circumstances can easily succumb to the weakness of the flesh. However, if you are truly sorry for your actions, you are indeed forgiven.”
“Thank you, Father. That’s a great load off my mind. But, I do have one more question.”
“And what is that?” asked the priest.
“Should I tell her the war is over?”
Hi
How are we all I se Baa on the way to chelski.
Sheep
Someone (sorry too many comments to scroll up and find who) said earlier that Wenger isn’t a man for the ballbusting management technique and someone else claimed they would like to give Arsene a bloody good shake and tell him to sort it out rather than squirm in his seat.
Now I might have imagined this, but the camera cut to Arsene after a woeful piece of passing in the final stages led to another wasted delivery and he was clearly very vocal in his disappointment, a few seconds later and he appears to be holding his hand up apologising to his players (I think Sagna and Walcott).
Relevance of this? Well ballbusting and ranting and raving on the touch line goes totally against his theories on football, allow the players to make the right decisions.
In the past we have all seen Arsene put his hand in front of Pat to stop him getting up to bollock someone, last season for the first time Arsene appeared to allow Pat to get on with it and we saw him on the touchline more than in any of his previous years with Wenger, encouraging and cajoling those on the pitch to do what is right.
The other problem with the hairdryer treatment post match is that there will be players sitting there saying in their pretty little heads “he is not talking about me, he is shouting at all of us, but he doesn’t mean me” that then transfers itself on to future displays.
Now you may say it works for Fergie, but my bet Fergie gives more hairdryers to referees and media pundits than he does his own players, he can’t bully footballers on £100+k a week, he can still let his frustrations out on others.
On a totally unrelated matter one of the main reasons people appear to want Usmanov to buy uo Kroenke’s stake in Arsenal is that they believe that David Dein will come riding back into the club and save the day (along with Usmanov dollars).
My only question is why is it assumed that Usmanov = Dein? I thought Dein left Red and White?
RA. 5.25. Great answer
love
Janus
Thanks for the comments, folks.
I knew I didn’t have to write anything much as there’s always something to talk about when we have played so poorly in such a glaringly obvious way.
Rocky,
I agree the ratings were too high. I was furious too, but tried to temper my rage.
It’s weird when you watch the match without any other frame of reference. The shared horror on here I read through after I’d finished made me quite glad I’d not been a part of it. Match days on LG were horrendous.
I found I kept saying ‘FFS Arsenal’ on so many occasions last night that it got quite tedious in the end. But I was still hoping for that one magic moment of quality in the last ten minutes that would allow us to steal the 3 points. Alas, I was waiting in vain.
The Arsenal is a fickle mistress.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6NNGVHrqho
Is that Hugh Janus?
GIE. Interesting.
SAF in a management meeting said that the most important thing he can say to any player is “well done” which would be precisely my and AW’s philosophy
Chas
I think you did a really good job – and I suspect that time will prove your assessment to be more in perspective than many of the comments relating to the game (including mine).
chas 😀
Sheep. Can you do the Swansea pre-match? You offered the other day and I was too slow to ask.
GiE
I don’t equate motivating with shouting/screaming.
I just worry that our team looks unmotivated at times and wish I knew why that was.
Br
Yes it’s ready I did it this afternoon when do I send it.
I hope it’s ok as it’s my first one EVER.
Sheepy,
Send it straightaway so that Rasp can add the mint sauce.
I’m looking forward to the Welsh explorer. 🙂
E mail address please to send it
You and I both Rocky.
But I think it’s what so many expect when they see the likes of Mourinho on the touch line, but he is the exception to the rule when it comes to top managers who are more often than not very restrained on the touch line when it comes to tinkering their own formations or players.
The most common arm waving I have been doing of late is to usher the team forward when we haven’t got the ball to close down space and also to wave the forward pass before we eventually turn back and go sideways.
LB the reason I believe JW runs with the ball is that we have very few options to pass to, so in order to take a defender or two out of the game he needs to beat them with the ball at his feet rather than pass round them.
arsenalnuts@live.co.uk
Have you chosen your line-up too?
GIE,
I completely agree with the reason Jack often runs with the ball. No options means the only pass is backwards, which he has an in built-in aversion to.
Cue LB and some comment about the Pope and the Vatican. 🙂
Sturridge to Liverpool – Can only make them stronger
Chelsea will no doubt already have a replacement very soon.
I always think teams should do their transfers early. Come on Wenger a new LEFT WINGER for me. Geronimo is not good enough out their and pods not a winger either.
Yes .
But my spelling may be wrong because my first launauge is Welsh
Posting it now chas ok.
David Beckham : “The fear of getting the hairdryer (SAF) was the reason why we all played so well,”
Rooney : “There’s nothing worse than getting the ‘hairdryer’ from Sir Alex,”
Just saying that Alex Ferguson DOES indeed give out the hairdryer treatment that his players seem to fear so much. Whether it’s productive or counter productive for our team is another topic up for debate, Ferguson’s track record with United seems to indicate that it works for their team.
Sent to arsenal nuts
good man sheep. Look forward to reading it….
I imagine chavs and dippers are banker home wins.
How about barcodes v toffees? Away win?
Draw that one barcodes
Rocky said,
“I don’t equate motivating with shouting/screaming.
I just worry that our team looks unmotivated at times and wish I knew why that was.”
Answer: Not enough shouting/screaming — obviously! 🙂
I sent it twice by mistake but they are both the same posts
Hi
Any of you lot coming down to the swansea match on Sunday
It’s on Espn.
Adrian Beckham’s comment has an important phrase….
“The fear of…..”
It can become legendary by its rarity. When it comes it is probably fully deserved.
Thinking if this fear brought back some school day memories.
A History teacher we had was a figure of fun, we had a lot of laughs in his class and got good grades, he was known throughout the school as a bit of a card never sent anyone from the room etc etc.
On the other hand we had a physics teacher who looked like a mean bastard, and had a reputation for being a psycho, his telling offs were talked about by all the pupils, but not once in 7 years at the school did I ever see the man lose it or even raise his voice, yet I continued to perpetuate the legend! And everyone behaved in his class.
Gie
Where did u go to school mate .
We had a maths teacher who threw board rubbers at us and we had to duck.
We called him Mr Angry ,I learnt nothing from him just how to duck.
Sheep
Who could forget the flying boot?
http://bit.ly/Vw0g8q
GIE, did everyone get good grades in Physics?
It’s ok for u lot I had to learn Welsh and was told I must learn it if I live in Wales I had no choice .
Mam and dad didn’t speak welsh ,it was hard welsh in not easy to learn .
Didn’t havethechoiceto do French or Latin just Welsh💤
This is the game that caused the flying boot incident.
Nice find, pleased I looked. Last ten seconds anyway. 🙂
We didn’t lose though and we should of. 🙂
Ba has gone to the chavs
Legendary.
http://bit.ly/VuRncz
https://twitter.com/DarrenArsenal1/status/286556601832337408
fergie is a bully. I reckon I could knock him out and I’m a hairdresser
Lol @ hairdresser I thought my job was gay.
Much love
Sheep
How very dare you
Are you a gigolo or a florist, Sheepy?
Sheep. My last wife was Welsh and only spoke Welsh until she went to school and couldn’t understand most of her classmates.
Don’t worry about spelling Rasp is a master ….
Shepherd?
Chavs should have had a man sent off by all accounts
Peaches was a proof-reader before she went into glamour modelling.
Sheep. Our GM is no ordinary hair dresser. You are sharing the forum with a hair artiste.
He works for Lufthansa
Shirt Lufthansa?
No I’m not a Shepard
I’m not a giggle either or a florist.
Who are they Lufthansa
A fireman?
Ballet dancer?
Trolley dolly
Dolly the Sheep
None ur way off I’ve done my. Job for 30 years.
What a great start Ba who?
Fluffer?
haha, who needs Ba?
Something to do with prisons and criminals?
Close goooner
I’m a RMN registered mental nurse in swansea and I visit people with mental problems in HMP Swansea and I also work in a clinic for mental health .
I thought maybe probation officer
Very observant, GM
I trained as a mental nurse when I was 18-21 in a mental hospital in swansea it’s still there now .
It’s called Cefin Coed hospital it’s on a hill as all nuthouses were built in the old days.
I once worked as a porter in a psychiatric hospital and really enjoyed it. I felt very at home.
Hi chas, apologies for the mini graphics, I was very busy this morning and peaches doesn’t have the teckers to manipulate images. When I got to work the internet was down and so I was bollixed.
But any way, thanks for an excellent match report, it must have been like writing a travelogue for the titanic 😦
Physics was hard Chas!! But in the main the grades were comparable to History.
“Cisse is one of the most clinical strikers…Ba none.”
Ill be able to retire soon as I’ve done 30 years,I have to work till 55 then I can go on full pension.
I’m reay to go now
No probs, Rasp. The pics were rubbish anyway.
At least peaches didn’t have to write, yet again, how peed off she was with our performance. 🙂
As a kid we used to play against a team in the grounds of a psychiatric home, I remember it being very off putting when the residents were wandering around the pitch. One woman put flowers in my goal at the start of the match…..not sure that would happen these days…ahh innocent times 😀
Anfield 89.
Lol GIE that’s sounds like the old days
It all seems to be (lack of) care in the community these days.
The nhs employe me and always have .
There is no money in the Nhs it’s on it’s arsenal.
It’s all cutbacks 🙈
If I need to admit some one they may tell me the only bed is in Cardiff and there arer 3 hospitals in Swansea,mad eh .
Are Cisse and Ba off to ACN or did Senegal not make ACN?
If they are off it kind of makes sense for Newcastle to make room for another striker, unless he is going to use the two Ameobis?
I can’t believe Adel Taret in not in the morrocan squad but chamak
Is
GIE,
Senegal did not make the ANC finals.
Gareth Bale washing his pussy.
http://bit.ly/Vh66aj
chamakh isn’t sheep
Wat he’s not a morrocan or he’s not in squad
Baines and the collapsing wall
Qpr one up get in sw Phillips
Well I’ll go to the foot of the stairs …………
chavs are losing 🙂
He’s not in the squad sheep
Ok gm they must one hell of a squad then I wonder wat odds they are to win it , I’ll go check
chavs have lost at home to qpr. Who would have thunk it?
Home banker. hahahahaha
And we thought a 1-1 draw away from home to Southamton was bad, in light of Chelsea losing 0-1 at home to QPR it looks a lot better.
Well played QPR. YIPEEEEE
Only negative is Spurs stay in 3rd
We’ll finish above them raddy
JD has gone to Hannover for £2m apparently
That was rumoured this morning GM, seems like a fair move for all concerned, apparently he only got a new contract last season because the number of games he had played triggered a renewal clause.
I do wonder whether there is a similar reason behind Arshavin not playing that many games (to not trigger a renewal) or it’s the other reason that says Arshavin gets £50k a week + £20k when he gets on the pitch.
Bet Benitez gets crucified for over rotation, Cole, Mata, Hazard, Ramires all on the bench.
Squilacci is going too
we’re buying Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa according to twitter
Apparently Mbiwa is a 6ft CB…
Maybe AW fancies him as a DM.
Or maybe it’s just a rumour.
To be honest I’d prefer the other Mbia.
Just watched a youtube clip of Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, never the best place to form accurate opinions but I couldn’t resist after Rocky floated the idea that maybe AW might fancy him as a DM.
Well, he is over 6 foot, black and plays for France. So desperate am I, it would have only taken Senagalese roots to have got me to run round like a headless chicken proclaming the prodigal son had returned.
Actually he is from the Central African Republic, a country I must confess I have never heard of.
I like the way he can run with the ball though.
Ooh and my prediction is that with the signing of Sturrige, Liverpool will cash in on Rat Boy in the summer, he has probably already told them that he will be wanting to leave.
Can you imagine how much Montpellier supporters must hate us?
Some where close to how much Chary hates manu would be my guess.
Actually, that is an awful lot, maybe half that then. lol
well played chas. i don’t know how you did it after that performance.
@ LB
if true that’d be great news. He did a really good job at DM against us in the champions league. Only problem is he’d be cup tied. But oh well, a CB who can play DM whilst getting rid of djourou…all sounds good to me!
@ Slim
we need another transfer target post like last year. I’m getting edgy and it’s only 3 days in!
Morning all
We have no post in stock for today can anyone pen a few short lines to get the day’s chat off to a start ………
Peaches
done post sent
Morning all
Usual shit this end. Satellite broadband ordered. 18 meg download speed for £10 month more than 1 meg BT. Also, it doesnt stop with a little rain. Ciao BT.
Peaches I have stuck a very small debate starter in drafts.
Well done Micky and GiE, thank you 🙂
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