Posted by andy
This post was written by andy before Barcelona made their offer and Arsenal told them where to shove it .
What makes a legend ?
All this talk of Cesc leaving got me thinking of his standing in comparison to some of his predecessors. Is Cesc a legend ? and what makes a legend ?
I was born in 1972 so my opinion of The Arsenal greatest players probably varies from that of some of the older and some of the younger guys (and girls) on here, but here goes…
I probably really started taking an interest in the team in the mid eighties and can remember Sansom and Anderson but to me then the heroes started to emerge. O’leary as a father figure bringing on the ultimate in Tony Adams.
If I had to name legends to me it would be Adams, O’Leary, Merse, Rocky, Bergkamp, Pires, Freddie, Bould, Smith, wright, Parlour, Dixon, Vieira, Henry but why ?
Is it just the time that you were at your most interested or is it that they were better than what we have now. My thirteen year old son thinks Cesc is the best thing ever but to me I personally wouldnt put him up there with the greats that I remember. If I think back to the side of the late nineties i’d struggle to fit him in. It may be that as we get older we think of the past greats with far higher esteem than perhaps they deserve and I do remember old guys talking to me as a young man about players of the past who were legends at the time but quite frankly look s**t compared to the players of today.
Maybe its attitude, I’m not great with stats so dont bother to dis-prove me but O’Leary played over 600 games for us, Adams his entire career. Dixon, Winterburn, bould, Seaman over 400 games each.The likes of Bergkamp, Pires. Henry and Llungberg were foreigners who made The Arsenal their club and we made them heroes.
So is it this that makes you a legend or winning trophies?
Do I remember Rocky because he won ‘X’ number of cups? No. Could I tell you how many winners medals Adams has? No. So is it about being successful?
Is it commitment? Adams = Arsenal, Pires , Bergkamp and Thierry still talk of the Arsenal with absolute love, not for the honours, but for the memories.
In my opinion there is no rule for whether you are a legend or not. It isn’t about success, it isn’t just about time served. I personnally think it’s about belonging. As a fan its about a player looking like he’s fulfilling your dreams (sounds a bit wanky I know but thats the best way i can descriibe it).
If i could have 1 wish it would be to play for The Arsenal (It could never happen coz im crap) but I want to see those there play like its an honour to wear the shirt.
Is Cesc a legend. IMO not yet. But he could be ? Who would be your Arsenal Legend?
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Where is Charlie George?????????
A legend is someone who does something significant in a Cup success; a pivitol moment that lifts all others up, and that, thus, lives long in the memory. Cesc is no legend, he is just a naughty boy 😉
Morning GG,
We’d meant to put CG in and somehow forgotten 😳 – he’s certainly a legend.
Where is Liam Brady?
I voted for Adams. By the way gnarley, I didn’t think my earlier post indicated more players were leaving than coming in. I was stating some facts as it stands today, plus the possibility of others coming in and therefore current members may be loaned out or sold.:)
CG was a legend more to the fans than to bertie mee, as they didn’t see eye to eye, and CG had a comparitively short career with us, but a legend indeed.
Excellent post Andy.
LOL GG . He is just a naughty boy!!
London. I was going to say exactly the same…… which is very relevant to Andy’s fine post.
Liam was 24 when he left AFC, ad yet there can be no question he remains an Arsenal legend. Yet somehow Cesc hasn’t attained the level of affection that Liam has. Why?
Honour? What would Generation Y know about honour? All they care about, so my sisters & brothers kids say, is having things now 😉 A lot take, but very few give. Amateurs & semi pros know about honour, but these modern day prats just care about themselves & winning trophys for themselves. What ever happened to the type of player who stuck with one club coz he loved them. Cesc wants to leave coz he thinks he has a better chance of winning trophys @ barca. That is a disgraceful attitude to show to a fan base & a man called Wenger. They gave him everything, & returns the favour with, sorry it wasn’t enough. Hang your head in shame Cesc, you have ripped the heart outa the people that love you!! I turn my back on you now.
kelsey not guilty, that was ras-a-ma-taz 😉
Evening all
……. Cesc is virtually homegrown, well as homegrown as Liam was. He is as influential upon the team. He is demonstratively committed to the Arsenal as Liam was.
Could it be because English isn’t his mother tongue? Not really because it is TH or DB’s.
Must be the lack of trophies, and if that is the case, then I cannot blame him for wanting to go somewhere he can remedy that.
But there is an up side 😆 (but not for Australians though 😦 ) Spain will get bundled outa the World Cup, & I have this strange feeling that England will make the final. I say final coz, in a Cup Final, anything can happen on the day 😉 But mark my words, Capello has something up his sleave, he is a crafty old geezer.
Evening GG. You didn’t respond to my defence of our loss to the green and gold !
Morning all,
Excellent personal view of the ‘legend issue’ andy – the poll was just an added bit of fun and shouldn’t detract from the article.
All legends conjure one particular image – CG lying on his back, TH14 doing the knee slide, DB leaning back and curling the ball into the top right hand corner from outside the box……..
BR
Just as well The Arsenal doesn’t have you making decisions then. Cesc has a contract till 2014. Once all that was needed was a handshake, now not even some legal document stands. Its a disgrace IMO
bergkamp for me andy….
morning all!
Ras
Oh you’ve added the “p” now. Well rasp don’t try & butter me up with Saint Charlie lengendary images. Leaving Charlie off the legends vote is worse than the Cesc saga IMO. The Great One made John Radford look good as well, & Bertie Mee.
Just having a lend rasp 😆
Morning GG,
I see you’re still sore about losing the cricket 😛
Far be it for me to blame another, but when I suggested the poll idea, I did list CG but it must have slipped the mind of the person who created the poll.
Any way, he’d have got votes, but he wouldn’t have won – that will be either DB or TH.
Cricket has nothing to do with is rasp, the urn will be officially home by February. I actually reckon England are in danger of actually winning the World Cup. You lot will be unbearable. Well Raddy follows Denmark I think, but the rest of you.
GG. Big Raddy was a legend before CG and after. What do you mean “made JR look good”?
If I hadn’t created the space and passed to you, you wouldn’t have had the chance to bury that Wembley goal and become a legend!!
We never give you the proper Ashes urn even when you do get lucky and win it GG 😆 but I reckon we’re gonna keep both versions this summer.
If Cesc came out and categorically said he loved Arsenal and wanted to stay for a couple more years, I’d probably support Spain following the treatment of Theo by Capello. I don’t think England will win it, we rely too heavily on Rooney and we have a selection of crocks at the back.
I follow Holland (my family are Dutch), Denmark (where I live) and any team with an Arsenal player – which sadly excludes the country of my birth!
Actually scratch that last comment, I can’t support Spain because it has too many Barc players and theycome second only to totnum in my most hated list – if only their ‘beautuful football’ ethos extended to their grubby business dealings.
I’d like to see Holland do well, but of course when the whistle blows at the start of an England game it will be impossible to support anyone else.
Morning all, Gnarley I was at the “home” of the Urn on Monday – at Lords watching England turn over the team of curry house waiters. I even got to walk on the hallowed turf (i.e. the other hallowed turf that is not at The Grove) at the lunch interval. I did peek through the windows of the Lords museum on my way to my seat in the Warner stand and the Ashes were safely ensconced there.
Hang on a second BR lets just check on that
😳 yep lovely stuff that by Radford
If cesc stays for a long time he will be a legend! 🙂
I NEVER tire of seeing that goal…..
…..& that my friends is how a legend is created. Chamone!!!!!!
Morning all. Thanks for adding the poll. I voted for Adams by the way.
robert
Apparently Cesc is 😀
I’ve got to say, & I say it to many dutchies I meet. Dennis Bergkamp is a legend. Since CG isn’t in the poll 😉 I’m going to vote for DB10. He was a true Dutch Master Class.
DB came into my place of work a few years ago wih his wife and a baby in a pram. I asked him for his autograph for my daughter (really 😉 ) and he was less than pleased but he did oblige. Not the warmest of characters but a footballing genius.
What about Adebayor? Ashley Cole?
MM. Legends in their own special way i suppose.
Nah, I prefer Sol Campbell to those two MM
Ok, I hold my hands up, its all my fault, I forgot to put Charlie George into the poll. Unforgivable as he was my first football hero – apologies Charlie, can you ever forgive me?
Gnarley – why don’t you write a post about him 😉
Adebayor – a hero?????????????????????????
It’s a wind-up by M Moor, Peachy.
peaches
There is a post there you know, leave it with me 😛
BR
Re Dans V Oz I made comment, its there already, just after we slugged you 😆 you need to find it Ha ha.
*Danes
I’ve put Charlie in the poll now – interestingly the post has had 775 views and only 180 votes on the poll. No votes for Vieira!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think that maybe the poll is suggesting that a legend is a player who makes his name at arsenal and stays there to pretty much the end of their career!
Hi tommy – do you have a different criteria for a legend then?
nope i voted DB 🙂
Morning all, good article Andy done my duty and voted.
Will these words come back to haunt Big Al., this was from the start of last season.
Chairman Ivan Gazidis has said the club hope to push on and improve on last year’s fourth-placed finish, but Almunia does not think this is possible without money being spent bringing in experience and quality.
Almunia said: “It’s great to have a young team but youth doesn’t give you titles.
“To go a step further players need to demand more of themselves, be more professional, braver in big games.
“We need the manager to work harder to get what we need, the club to make an extra effort to make us more competitive. We need more than youth.”
What a knob Myles Palmer is – he thinks Cesc cracked his fibula in the second leg of the Champions league match against Barca; he can’t even get his facts right the stupid old scroat.
I don’t know why I bother reading his garbage, the senile retard.
Morning All,
Grimandi is a Legend for me. Parlour is a Legend. Perry Groves is a Legend.
Its odd.
O’Leary – hard pressed to call him a Legend, even after 600+ games..??!!!
I clearly can’t define what makes a Legend, but I voted for Big Tone all the same.
2nd vote would have gone to King Dennnis. He simply refused to leave us, stayed on year after year, accepting whatever contract was offered to him
My best Charlie George story comes from the time when I was at Stamford Bridge in the huge concrete toilets before the start of a midweek evening game. There I was standing when all of a sudden from the other side came this booming voice singing We love you Arsenal we do, we love you Arsenal we do….I turned round and it was Charlie George, I dutifully joined in at the top of my voice………a true legend.
After osting I stared thinking (perhaps thats the wrong order …lol)
I started to believe Legends leave us with tales to tell, stuff to talk about and pass on to the younger people in the future.
Web definitions of ‘Legend’ all talk of ‘telling or recalling stories’ from times gone by.
Ergo aLegend is anyone who is commited to memory and the expectation is that it will be a long long time before their acts are forgotten or dismissed.
Kanu’s hat trick, Grimandi punching Simeone and hacking Davids, Sammy the dog dropping his shorts, Alan Sunderlands celebration, SuperMacs goals (and his all 3’s transfer fee!!)
I could go on, but my point is that its not just the ten years of service or 300 goals, or outrageous talent.
And no offence Gnarley, but it really isn’t about winning us trophies. Charlie Nicholas …legend. Naaah not in my book !
S Sure – what’s Champagne Charlie got to do with Gnarley’s favourite?
SS. I think thats the point, Its open to interprtation. My idea of a legend is probably vastly different to everybody else. Is legend even the right word ? If you talk about memories I remember Paul Davis breaking Glenn Cockerills jaw in a game with a sneaky punch when the ref wasn’t looking.
Cesc – Youngest ever Arsenal 1st team scorer.
2He’s only Seventeen – He’s better than Roy Keane
Pizzagate
Woops Viera in Champions League
Long Distance goal against AC
Scores Penalty in comeback against Barca
– With a Broken Leg !!!!!!
Reads the game better than any Arsenal player / player I have ever seen
Absolute pleasure to watch Cesc Fabregas – – Legendaire
I never saw Charlie George play as it was before my time but I do know who he is and how good he was so thats about as good an example of a legend as you can get i guess.
Duncan. I totally agree the lad is awesome. My initial thought for the post was that IF he were to leave now would he be giving up on the chance to become a legend at the club. Some1 who will be raved about in ten years time because of what he did as opposed to what could have been ?
Even though Wright got me following the Arsenal and Dennis Bergkamp is my all-time favourite Gunner, I went for Adams – Captain fantastic and spent his whole career at the club.
The truth is they are all legends except Cesc who is teetering on the edge although if he announced that he was going to honour his contract…..that would make him a legend.
my favourite TA moment was the 4th goal when he buried it against everton to win us the title in 98. clean through on goal sublime left foot half vollied finish, now that was heroic!
Well said London.
And there are many many more.
Kenny Sansom, McNab, McLintock, Pat Rice, Geordie Armstrong, Rocky, Seaman, Wilson, Nutty, RP, Sol ….. I could go on for ages.
Of todays team the possibilities are Cesc, TV, Clichy, Ramsey, Wilshere, RvP, Nik, Song, Diaby and dare I say Theo…. but I stress “possibilties”
My favourite TA moment (apart from yours TS) was when he scored against the Spuds at Wembley in the FACSF in ’93. I went totally mental…..
and this:-
TommyS – I’m sure you mean 98(not 88), when TA06 chested the ball down and then vollyed it to seal our title.
You saw him close his eyes just then to savour the moment and make it last longer in his minds eye.
Although I voted for DB10, a legendary moment for mw was the solo goal by Tel agianst the Spuid, then the runnnig in celebration and the knee slide in front of the hapless Spuds away support.
Of course those retards form the Swamplands of Middlesex are equating that to the Ademywhore goal celebration against us at Middle Eastlands.
Well Har-de-har-ha you mugs. 🙂
Hello All. Good thought-provoker Andy. I voted for DB10 but I really think Brady should have been on there. I suppose it’s all about definitions: there are many, many players whom I hold in great affection (from Perry G to Nutty to Peter Story and more) but for me “legend status’ has to include being among the best in the world in your position at the time you were playing. All the players on the poll fit that list, but there should be a few more.
To me with TA it was the amount of abuse he took in the early days and even as a very young player he just rose above it and got better and better. And the dropping of Steven Morrow after the final was a bit of a funny moment too !
Another great TA moment – his goal against Everton at Highbury in the last game of the ’98 title-winning season (and his reaction!!).
Totally agree on the TA moment – I have that game on video and every now and again I pull out the video recorder just to watch it.
I have it on DVD too in one of those Arsenal collection specials but there is just something much more real about watching it on video – perhaps cos I taped it on the day.
DB10’s goal against Newcastle – could watch it again and again and again…
“Did he mean it??” Course he bloody meant it.
Irish. I know he meant it but i watch it over and over and cant see how he does it. Best goal ever.
It was awesome watching it when it happened it was a complete “What the hell did he just do” moment.
His goal against Argentina was excellent too.
Oooooh now you are talking BR, the Adams goal against spuds, did you notice the flick from, I think, Bergkamp to set up the shot….world class although it has to be said that Wright’s turn was pretty good as well.
But I agree the one at Wembley was the best, people forget that if we had lost that it would have been the second loss in the semis to spuds……oh the shame. I can still see Merson placing the ball for the free kick, running up and floating it to the far post for Big Tone to run in, head it down and into the net…….cue bedlem. And spuds have been in our shadow ever since.
I’ve never know a world of us been in the shadow of the spuds and I don’t plan on living in one either 8)
Who’s this french defender we seem to be trying to get (alledgedly anyway). Has any1 ever heard of him ? Is he first choice or cover for TV ?
Not got a notion who he is Andy.
Just know that he plays for Lorient and is French-Polish.
Seems Rafa Benitez is gone this time. Phil McNulty reporting Daglish will be interim manager.
Me neither Irish. My first thought about Benitez is who can we steal from them…Reina, mascherano ? Or is that wrong of me ?
Nope its very right of you 🙂
I’d take Reina.
Let’s be greedy about this: Reina, Macherano and Torres.
And because we’re so nice we’d give them £50mil for the 3 and Silvestre as well.
Haha. Torres aswell yeah y not. It’ll give Cesc some mates to talk to on the bus aswell !!
Andy – I thought exactly the same – “Quick, nick Torres, while no one else (at Anfield) is looking.
You lot are funny – nick Torres while no-one else is looking 😆
Nick Torres, give him a haircut, change his name and no-one will ever know – typical Arsenal signing, we won’t have to pay for him.
Liverpool will just think he got lost in South Africa or something – serve them right, they’re always robbing stuff!! Lets take their hubcaps too.
That’s right Peachy, people are used to things going missing from Merseyside.
And Alan Sunderland, in the “5 minute final in 1979” against United, made him a legend, but who crossed the ball ?
Graham Rix
I believed it was Brady for a long time till I was doing an article on Brady and did a bit of research – found a clip of the goal and saw it was Brady who passed to Rix who crossed it.
Me too irish, I could swear it was brady (who did all the leg work) but it was Rix.
Brady had plenty days in the sun though didn’t he?
Graham Rix. Perfect example of player who didn’t become a legend,
Played over 350 games for us and only once for the Chavs. However I think of him as a Blue (perhaps due to his jacuzzi antics that led to him doing a “Storey”).
Yet Rixy had it all. Brilliant on the ball, vision, energy a decent tackler and could shoot.
But not a Legend…..
Still does Irish. Still does. Brady remains a huge star in Italy and I understand has a house (actually a castle) there
For some reason Brady doesn’t get his dues in Ireland that I feel he should.
Then I suppose neither does Johnny Giles. Pre-1988 football players might well have not existed in Ireland because all you hear about is the Houghtons, Alridges, McGraths, Whelans, O’Leary’s etc. Nothing wrong with that but Brady and Giles etc deserve their dues too even if they never played in a major competition.
Radders…great shout re Rix NOT being a Legend !!
Chary (from much earlier) – Gnarley posited that contributing to winning trophies was a factor. I respectfully begged to differ on that point.
DB10’s goal at Newcastle. Goosebumps every singletime. Unbelievable in both its conception and execution.
Bye bye Rafa
Oh right S Sure – I just thought you were getting your Charlies mixed up. Gnarley was championing Charlie George, and you said you didn’t rate Charlie Nicholas.
Maire – he can go back to his restaurant and continue the day job now.
Don’t be surprised if he’s Inter Milan’s new manager in the next few days….
So the tapas bar will go unattended then…..
Unless Almunia needs some work come August 😉
That’d be a cool idea for a sketch on a comedy show. Almunia & Rafa tending tables, Almunia dropping all the dishes and Rafa being too fat to bend down to pick them up.
😆
I’d watch that…
Peter Marinello 🙂 the next george best not.
I always laugh at rafa during a match, he is continually writing notes or maybe it’s his auto biography.
Or how to be millionnaire without really trying.
I think he’s doing drawings Kelsey.
Like you know when in school you’d get bored so start doing squiggles – I think he was drawing squiggles.
eboue!
The only reason Torres is at Liverpool is because of Lardy Benitez if he goes to Inter then Torres will surely follow and Macherano probably but he won’t take Reina, they already have Cesar which means that Reina is going to join Arsenal. Simples.
Is it possible that when the journalist asked Cesc are you certain where you will be next season and he said No that this could mean that he was not sure if Arsenal would sell him if the price was right, if we take yesterday’s statement from the club at face value then we could still see our Captain wearing the glorious red and white at the beginning of next season.
I’m back from 60-40 against to 50-50.
Eboue…..of course, how could we forget…….a legend in his own lunch time.
Definitely squiggles Irish.
For all those who would have had us spend a fortune in recent years, just look at Liverpool, No Manager, Club in disarray, who will take that job with only 15 million to spend, Will Torres and Stevie G still be there when the season kicks off.
No Torres, no Gerrard, no Macherano, no Reina……..they are going to be fighting for their premiership status……this is getting funnier by the minute.
Now Reina would look good at the emirates
Depends who comes in as Manager. There are some fine young guys coming through.
I have a suggestion for the next L’pool manager, a man with PL experience, out of a job – well on gardening leave, used to working within financial constraints….
Step Up …… Phil Brown
😆 “a legend in his own lunch time” good one London.
Phil Brown stars in “Return of the Oompa Loompa”
Reina would be marvelous, can’t see it happening.
I would still go for Sorensen or Jaaskelinen both of whom are around 34., which allows Chesney 3 years to mature.
If I were Benitez and had just pocketed an absolute fortune for walking away from a job, I would not be looking to take the poisoned chalice of Inter-Milan (as the media are suggesting).
I would be looking for a small Caribbean Island to buy and perusing the yacht market.
I think Rafa likes the trouble though Raddy which is why I see him going to Inter – he’ll want to prove himself as a manager as well.
Lardy has Inter written all over him, and what a great squad to take on, add Torres and Macherano and surely this is a no brainer for him. As for Inter being trouble? It would be a day on the beach compared to thankless task of working at Liverpool on a shoe string.
Phil Brown to Liverpool…..now that is funny.
Phil Brown … now that is funny 😉
No Mickey T…..
afternoon all
Afternoon Livers.
Mickey T is undoubtedly an AFC legend
Thank god for Rafa leaving though, if he didn’t the journos would have more time to cook up emotional heart-to-hearts between Fabregas, Wenger, Laporta, Hill-Wood, Doris and Gerrard fucking Pique.
I voted DB because of the loyalty but I think in terms of the number of times I’ve screamed LEGEND! at the telly it has to be Henry.
Hi Mayank
It does feel good to sit back and laugh at someone elses misery for a change
Lol thanks for making me feel shallow London!
Rafa leaving is a good thing for the club as well as Rafa. They need a different sort of manager right now, someone in the Moyes mould I’d think.
italy 1 mexico 2 vela scored 😉 he definitely plays better for them than us.
Mayank
I would give them Iain Dowie, Harry Redknapp or Brian Laws
Stab in the dark for Liverpol. Roy Hodgson.
Raddy,
I take it you have no sympathies for ‘Pool.
Hodgson would be good, Van Gaal would be great but I’m saving him for us.
I have only contempt for the Dippers.
One minute 😀
Mayank
I was only trying to find some common ground.
I’d rather seen the Mancs fall apart than Liverpool – it would give me more satisfaction.
With things at Liverpool now I feel like 🙂 but if it were Red Nose and his cronies I’d be like 😀
Check this out for defending .Paolo Maldini and Baresi would have gone mental……
Irish
We would all prefer to watch the mancs fall apart but hey ho, one day at a time and today it is Liverpool’s turn and I for one think it is absolutely hilarious.
Vela scores with his right foot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKwl-DAclDo
Maldini and Baresi…….now they were central defenders.
I’m laughing along London don’t worry 🙂
And yes Maldini – the best player EVER for me – and Baresi were something else.
Talking of loyalty, if Real Madrid were to just mention the name of Vela he would have his shorts down, lubed up, ready to go, quicker than we could say Hugo Sanchez.
Night, night Irish.
Night London – catch ya tomorrow. Off myself to watch a film.
Morning all.
Firstly I made a mistake.The purchase of Kaka and Ronaldo was funded by 2 banks in Madrid. London was nearer the mark.Secondly VAT has only increased on house purchases,not on everything as I stated 2 days ago,here in Spain,the Vat increase is scheduled for October..All the other tax increases are correct.
If I am wrong, I hold my hands up.
Caixa the Catalan Bank, is a Savings Bank,like Nationwide,Abbey National etc, not a true bank as Barclays,Santander etc.This is a valid point,as Savings Banks over here are more vunerable and do not have the same Government protection and safegaurd guarantees for their clients.
This morning’s news is that Yaya Toure has agreed terms with a PL club,according to his agent.and confirmed by the BBC.
Initially I thought perhaps part of a deal with us, but my gut feeling is that it is Manchester City, which to me makes sense.
Toure going to Man City? I can’t see it when they are so strong in that area, De Jong, Barry, Kompany, Ireland, M.Johnson , Vieira, Petrov.
Perhaps they are looking to make a collection of DM’s. Barry and De Jong are excellent but are perhaps lacking in height at set pieces and Toure is a big lad. If I were Mancini I would be looking for a creative midfielder in the Cesc mould.
I can see Toure at either the Chavs or hopefully the Emirates.
Morning Kelsey
Can you remind me how the tax increases in Spain will affect footballers; I mean, has the top band of tax already gone up or is it planned to go up?
Morning all,
I don’t see how Yaya can be on his way to the Emirates as Barca would surely want to use him in a make-weight for the Cesc deal and they would coincide all the deals.
Morning London,
The high tax rate has been increased to 43% + wealth tax on all world wide assets + the new wealth tax for any individual who has more than 900000 euros in world wide assets as an additioal wealth tax.Plus retention on unearned income has gone upfrom 18% to 21%.taken off at source.
Maire @ your 10.13pm from last night – you are a football follower close to my heart – I’d get tons more pleasure watching old Bacon faces empire crumble than the hapless tapas waiter’s.
Morning rasp 😛
Morning peaches,
Beautiful day 😛
Do you think we should take a trip back down memory lane with today’s post?
We could call it Reflective Friday – which one though?
Its ok I know which one cos you’ve tagged it 😉
You or me?
Looks like me then …………
Theres a NEW POST
You please 😉
Well done, we got there in the end 😉
rolig reklam…
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