How safe is the Best Manager in the world‏

Morning all,

The career of a premier league Manager comes with lots of up’s and down’s, one minute a hero the next anything but. Not so long ago, supporters were filling the streets with banners and the wearing of a black scarf, signifying some Arsenal supporters views on the current Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger. A few seasons of what they considered to be bad results, the lack of spending was also seen as bad management.

Today those same supporters seem quieter, we seldom see black scarves and banners expressing ‘Wenger Out’. It’s not impossible to understand how some supporters do not need too many bad results before turning against players or managers. On some occasion’s, even the owners are pointed out for ridicule, yes, even though they have spent many millions of their own money to buy the said club.

Arsenal is not the only  club out of the twenty Premier League clubs to have had similar problems from supposedly loyal supporter’s, Newcastle, Liverpool Manchester United and their neighbours City have all had problems. When you look at the numbers of managers these clubs have had over the years you wonder why anyone would want to be a Football Manager.

Premier League Management is a high profile job in which the pressure exists every week throughout the playing season. Managers are expected to face the press and answer questions that are often meant to embarrass the person in front of the camera. The Chelsea manager, Jose Mourinho, is flavour of the moment.  After a slow pre season and only a draw for their opening game, the press are looking for headline news. Selling goalkeeper Petr Cech to Arsenal was another story they could twist and turn.

It has to be said that most Premier Managers do not like to sell good players to their immediate rivals, why strengthen another club, but in certain circumstances it has to happen. Premier league players want to play for premier clubs, should they not be happy at a certain club then they have a right to move on, A bit like a skilled man in the engineering  business, who moves to another firm for more money or better opportunities, well within his rights to do so, the only difference is contracts, and whether that worker has fulfilled what he signed on for.

As for Mourinho, he has just publicly criticised his on field doctor for rushing on the pitch to treat an injured player.  Chelsea were already playing with ten men after their goalkeeper had been sent off, and Mourinho realised like most Managers would that when a player is treated on the field of play he has to leave the field before play starts again thus leaving his side with nine players against eleven. Mourinho had the hump, and he showed that on the pitch, the press have, of course, had a field day and now they are writing in their daily’s that Mourinho may not last the season.

Its only last week, that I heard Alan Shearer, a television pundit, ex England player asked to name the club prior to this seasons start who he felt would lift the League Title this season. Shearer stated that he felt any team with Mourinho as their manager, would win the league as he felt he was the best manager, I wonder what he feels about that statement now.

Lets have a look at another Manager, LVG at Manchester United. He had, what could be described as a bad season last season, I would expect that should he have a run of bad results this season he could also be gone before the seasons end. The Manchester City Manager Pelegrini has also stated that not winning the league this season will also end his City career.  Our own Arsene Wenger has not won the premier league in an age so what are his chances of finishing the season still in a job should the league not be won by us. I would be willing to bet that he is still here next season, but who knows, with many owners who demand success.

Premier league Managers can earn fortunes with the right club, is it right that they can be discarded, even with a contract, when 20 other clubs compete for just one premier league trophy, What’s your view?

Written by Steve Palmer

74 Responses to How safe is the Best Manager in the world‏

  1. RA says:

    Well done, Steve, an interesting and topical Post.

    Your question; “Premier league Managers can earn fortunes with the right club, is it right that they can be discarded, even with a contract?”

    Everyone who is an employee, with most people not earning fortunes, can be made redundant or fired for various reasons including unsatisfactory performance – so, why should fabulously well paid, multi-millionaire football managers be any different if they don’t achieve an expected level of diligence in their work?

  2. stevepalmer1 says:

    Good points RA i should have known better than to ask that question, 🙂

    I myself have been made redundant, i watched for many years colleagues go before me, many were volunteers and they enjoyed leaving for a generous pay day, others who didn’t want to leave but still went.

    Myself of course had no say in the matter, they shut the firm down so we had to go, but they did look after the few that were left.

    Are we now seeing Managers employed on short contracts of may be a season at a time, as it seems every year an endless supply of new people.

    How can a new man, New to the club be expected to win cups and leagues when he hardly has time to settle at his desk, is it the fact that rich owners have no patience.

  3. RA says:

    Steve ,

    Your Post would give the AA lawyer, 26M, a field day explain the rights of employees and others, as you are entering the tricksie world of contract law and employment law complete with restrictive covenants and restraint of trade.

    Football was rocked in the mid-90s when an unknown, low-league Belgian player wanted to move from from his Belgian club to a French club using the Human Rights legislation allowing ‘freedom of movement within the EU’, at the end of his contract and won his case.

    Before that ECJ ruling a player could only move to another club with the agreement of both clubs.

    Usually this agreement was only reached by the setting of a “transfer fee”, whereby the buying club actually purchased the player from the selling club. This applied regardless of whether or not the player’s contract with the selling club had ended.
    In effect, this meant that ‘out of contract players’ were not allowed to sign a contract with a new team until a transfer fee had been paid, or they had been granted a free transfer even if their contracts had finished.

    I won’t go any further as it will bore the asses of other AAers, and really only lawyers and odd accountants would be interested, but suffice to say that as with many legal issues things are never so straightforward as they might initially appear.

    Arsene said after the ruling that it would signal the end of ‘huge cost’ transfers, as if a player were bought for £100m and given a 4 year contract, that money would have ‘gone’ at the end of the contract, unless the player was sold before it ended.

    When you factor in the players salary and agents fees, on top of the transfer cost of buying the contract, it becomes obvious that transfers can be costly, high risk bits of business.

    Arsene was wrong!

    Since the Bosman ruling, the highest transfer records have continued to rise, with Mr Bales £86 million fee the latest ‘high’ but for how long?

    O.K. I have stopped. 😀

  4. stevepalmer1 says:

    Well that was a mouthful and a half RA, but that has certainly enlightened me, Petr Cech’s transfer to us was from a wealthy owner who appreciated a loyal worker, Maureen didn’t like it, but even filthy rich owners have a heart so it seems.

  5. GunnerN5 says:

    Hi Steve,

    Another question would be….

    “Who the hell would want to be a PL Manager?”

    They have to please both the fans and the owners at the same time – when they typically have different needs. The owners want profit and trophies while the typical fan wants one thing TROPHIES at any cost.

    We are one of the worlds most fortunate clubs as we have a master manager who has survived the attacks on his character and skill set from both the fans and the “experts”.

    If we were to add up the years that the other 19 managers have at their current clubs you would find that Arsene has almost as much tenure as the rest of them put together.

    I repeat.

    “Who the hell would want to be a PL Manager?”

  6. RA says:


    You made the observation that:

    — “Are we now seeing Managers employed on short contracts of may be a season at a time, as it seems every year an endless supply of new people(managers) arrive.”

    I am not intending to be picky, but one of my beefs with the Premier League clubs is that they seem to have a small pool of ‘accredited managers’ like Allardyce who move around like they are on a conveyor belt, first with Bolton, then Newcastle, then West Ham, and the same is true of people like Mark Hughes or, say it quietly, Mourhino the midget, sexist etc.

    This means that young hopefuls have a hard time getting a foot on the managerial ladder, and in particular makes it very difficult for black players who have finished their careers and want to switch to management have very few opportunities to do so.

    That must be wrong.

  7. GunnerN5 says:


    The first place that cubs look for new managers is the PL recycle bin – it’s usually brimming over with re-treads.

  8. RA says:

    Hi GN5,

    Give me a £4m a year salary and I would put up with it! 😀

    As I inferred in my previous comment, there are any number of ex-players who would give anything to be offered the chance.

    I suspect what you were really asking is, leaving the financial rewards aside, who would want a career where your personal integrity, professional competence and expansive vision are hostages to fortune to be attacked by the ignorant and classless bozos who think they know better, or who is personally attacked as a voyeur by a fellow manager?

    Not me! 😀

  9. RA says:


    It seems you are right that it was only the ‘generosity’ of Abramovich towards a loyal servant of the club, Cech, that allowed him to join Arsenal by overruling Bridget the Midget.

    Not so generous that he would forego the £10m it cost the Arsenal to buy Cech.

    There is generous and there is generous.

  10. GunnerN5 says:

    RA – yes the money would be nice. I’ve had many lucrative consulting contracts where I’ve been treated awfully – but I simply told myself to – “say the words, take the money and go home”

  11. RA says:

    I am giving others the chance to discuss Steve’s excellent Post by stopping hogging the comments and by buggering off for a while. 🙂

  12. RA says:

    Very true, GN5 — I have been there – but never for long. 🙂

  13. GunnerN5 says:


  14. stevepalmer1 says:

    First of all Afternoon GN5, a good post yesterday by the way, never looked at the website till late last night, and realised i had read the post about a week or so ago, but it never stayed up. Anyway Wenger is your hero and certainly mine as well. 🙂

    RA, you always bring up some good points, and your right again. It seems to me that the wealthy owners do like to go with Managers who have won something somewhere before, leaving lesser known hopefuls out, As for Black ex players who have done their badges, its hard enough for a white young guy to get on so a black guy would only be used as a token.

    I used to have concerns with foreign players and Managers as i always felt that English youngsters were being left out, it seems my concerns are also others concerns as well now, Hodgeson seems aggrieved as do many England big wigs, but where i now see the Premier in a different light and now Black players who have been born here, i see no reason why black or white youngsters who have played not be initiated into Management, after all we are now multicultural.

    Gone are the days of an all white England team although it would be nice to see one before i die

  15. GunnerN5 says:

    I would simply like to see a winning England team. White seems as though it’s racial so maybe a clarification would be appropriate.

  16. stevepalmer1 says:

    Its only racial when its brought up as Racial. Its like sexism GN5 had Mourinho said the same to a guy it would seem ok.
    I find todays political correctness only seems to be in force when its not a white person. or when a white person says something not when what i call foreigners talk about my race.

    Britain is still a place where free speech is allowed, i am no racist but i say my mind

  17. GunnerN5 says:

    Steve, we are somewhat in agreement – I detest trying too be politically correct but I do try to not to upset those that would be offended.

    Political correctness goes too far when they take the Golliwog off of Robertson’s jam or try to rename the Washington Redskins.

  18. stevepalmer1 says:

    At present GN5 we have thousands waiting across the channel waiting for a chance to enter England illegally, I understand these people are coming from war torn countries and they are looking for a better place to live their lives, They land on British soil and claim asylum, I always thought you claimed asylum in the first safe country you came to.

    Where i live the streets are crowded with foreign faces, whether these people are legal i don’t know, but in some places in England it seems as if you cannot see an Englishman. I hear every language that i don’t understand so they are obviously not born here as they don’t understand a word you say to them.

    The football people are moaning that too many foreigners are being employed in the Premier league and stopping English talent emerging, i don’t know the facts, but it seems feasable. Most of the shops where i live is being run by foreigners surly that cannot be right.

    Premier league clubs buy what they can afford , we all understand that, but there should be a sealing on how many foreign imports each club can take.

    After all this is still England, and your own who has put everything in place, should in all honesty be looked after first, After that help out the others..

  19. omgarsenal says:

    Nice article Steve……and my take on Kroenke is that his first concern, if at all, for Arsenal’s relative on-field success comes a distant second to the Club’s financial and management success, both of which Wenger is very capable of providing. Therefore, his future is totally assured….the vast majority of fans, all his players and the board are fully behind him,Kroenke included. It is only a few malcontent whiners whose constant meme is Wenger out, that seem to catch the media’s attention.

  20. rabbit says:


    Where are you troll, still spurting the ghost of the thirties are stirring’ bollocks lol lol

  21. Redders, are you there? Is he still around? No? Oh good I can get a word in edgewise. 😀

    Steve to answer your original question, of all the managers in the Premiership I would say Wenger’s position is the safest.

    Silent Stan has total control of the club, he’s not worried by gnat bites from irate supporters groups, I don’t suppose for one minute that he reads the English tabloids and I hardly think he spends hours poring over the bletherings on sites like Le Grove.

    Short of him being convicted of sexualy abusing children or Arsenal failing to finish in the top four, and not winning the FA Cup, I can’t see Wenger being given a ticket to ride the Managerial Merry-go-Round before his current contract expires.

    It always amuses me to read that such and such club has appointed such and such manager when said manager has just been sacked by his previous club for incompetence, ie, failing to live up to the owners outlandish expectations.

    I’m sure all managers take comfort from the fact that there appears to be an endless series of vacancies for coaches at clubs and an equally endless series of vacancies for pundits on Sky, BT Sport and even good old Auntie Beeb.

  22. GunnerN5 says:

    Not much to disagree with Steve.

    A logical answer would be not to blame the foreigners but to blame your government for not putting stronger restrictions/policies in place. Or would that be considered politically incorrect? Or are your politicians too weak to stand up for the British people – if so change them and put in p[lace a party with a backbone that doesn’t bend in the wind.

    I should also add that from what I’ve read it’s not just the foreigners that bleed the system dry, but also the British people who are way to reliant on government handouts.

    See what i mean about speaking my mind – my views are sure to cause a stir.

  23. GunnerN5 says:

    Club Manager Appointed
    Arsenal Arsene Wenger 30-Sep-96
    Aston Villa Tim Sherwood 14-Feb-15
    Bournemouth Eddie Howe 12-Oct-12
    Chelsea Jose Mourinho 03-Jun-13
    Crystal Palace Alan Pardew 03-Jan-15
    Everton Roberto Martinez 05-Jun-13
    Leicester City Claudio Ranieri 13-Jul-15
    Liverpool Brendan Rodgers 30-May-12
    Manchester City Manuel Pellegrini 14-Jun-13
    Manchester United Louis van Gaal 19-May-14
    Newcastle United Steve McClaren 10-Jun-15
    Norwich City Alex Neil 09-Jan-15
    Southampton Ronald Koeman 16-Jun-14
    Stoke City Mark Hughes 30-May-13
    Sunderland Dick Advocaat 17-Mar-15
    Swansea City Garry Monk 07-May-14
    Tottenham Hotspur Mauricio Pochettino 27-May-14
    Watford Quique Sanchez Flores 05-Jun-15
    West Bromwich Albion Tony Pulis 01-Jan-15
    West Ham United Slaven Bilic 09-Jun-15

  24. GunnerN5 says:

    Looking at the dates appointed.

    9 in 2015
    4 in 2014
    4 in 2013
    2 in 2012

    1 in 1996.

    Not a very stable profession.

  25. RockyLives says:

    Really good read Steve – thanks.

    I think the point about new/younger managers getting a crack of the whip is well made but… (and isn’t there always a but…?)…

    Quite often the newly promoted sides have a young, up-and-coming manager. He’s just got his team promoted to the EPL, everyone’s backing him…

    But as the grind of a long Premier League season goes on and the newly promoted team slips into the relegation zone, the owners start to believe that the young manager won’t get them out of the death spiral. They ditch the manager and reach for the trusted EPL Re-tread Bin and pull out the Allardyce/Pardew/Pulis du jour.

    And the sad thing is, it quite often works and the re-tread keeps the team in the EPL.

    Which raises the possibility that the likes of Allardyce et al might just be quite good at what they do…

  26. RockyLives says:


    If you’re still around…

    I saw an interesting bird in my garden the other day: a bluejay…

    It looked very happy 🙂

  27. RA says:

    Hi Rocket, 🙂

    You are right in that the usual suspects are seasoned managers who do a good job in keeping their respective teams in the Premiership.

    And that goes to the core of the point I was making — there are not lot’s of new managers coming into the Prem every year, just the same old faces.

    I seem to have run out of Norfolks AAers to contradict – so I will just have to contradict myself! 🙂

    Steve was right in the point he was making — it was just a question of quantity.

    There are a smattering of new faces coming in over the last few years, with;

    LVG at Manu,
    Tim Sherwood at Villa,
    Slaven Bilic at Wham,
    Enrique Flores at Watford,
    Eddie Howe at Bournemouth,
    Mauricio Pochettino at Southampton/Spurs,
    Dick Advocaat at Sunderland,
    Garry Monk at Swansea,
    Manuel Pellegrini at City,
    Claudio Ranieri at Leicester,
    Ronald Koeman at Southampton.

    That’s more than half of the Premiership clubs with relatively new managers. I think I won that point for you Steve – you should get me to argue with myself more often – it’s where Norfolk goes wrong!! 😀

  28. RA says:


    Was it a Blue Jay (like a beautiful blue bird), or just a common or garden Toronto Blue Jay? 😀

  29. GunnerN5 says:

    I think it must have been a very happy Blue Jay as it was looking down on a New York Yankee…………..

  30. RockyLives says:

    It was doing a bit of sweeping in the yard…

  31. RockyLives says:

    When you think of people like Brenda at Liverpool, Koeman at Saints, Martinez at Everton and so on… I suppose they represent the new(er) generation too.

  32. RA says:


    See if you can find a feather – they are supposed to bring good luck! 🙂

    Not wanting to overthink the blue jay comment, I am thinking, none the less, that you are trying to send me a message that I am too thick to figure out. 🙂

  33. RA says:


    You cheeky devil!! 😀

  34. RockyLives says:

    You are a Yankees man, aren’t you Redders?

  35. RA says:

    It’s pretty disappointing that Sky don’t show as much American sports on UK TV as they used to, and I won’t be able to see the game tomorrow. 😦

    Anyway the Yankees will take care of business!!

  36. RA says:

    Well, Rocker, you can see from GN5’s 8:04 that he knows I am — but my 8:09 expresses my view! 😀

  37. stevepalmer1 says:

    Evening all, Not much to argue with you about your comment GN5, All ways nice to hear from Rocky, thank you 🙂
    And Norfolk you talk sense mate, despite what RA says.
    RA your a walking computer mate.
    If i have left anybody out i apologise.

  38. RA says:

    Actually, I stand corrected.

    There is a bit more sport on TV than I had realised with an MLS game – The NY Red Bulls are playing Toronto FC @ the Red Bull Arena showing on Sky tomorrow night, and an MLB game with LA Angels @ KC Royals.

    The sport [MLS, MLB Bundesliga, Ligue Un, La Liga etc] is spread over Sky, BT, Euro Sport and ESPN – makes my head spin and too many late nights involved. 🙂

  39. RA says:

    I have to go – again, but Rocky I am still waiting for you to re-establish email communication. 🙂

    Steve, my fee for representing your comment is for you to write another Post! 🙂

  40. stevepalmer1 says:

    No Probs Mate

  41. chas says:

    Cheers, Steve.
    Who’d be a manager, eh?

    I suppose Arsene was the first of a new breed when he arrived at THOF.

    The supporters who want to get rid haven’t changed regardless of results; they’re just less vocal when things are going our way.

  42. chas says:

    Magnificent ignoring of last Sunday’s result. 🙂

  43. GunnerN5 says:

    Man U = 2 games played 2 deflected shots = 2 goals = 6 points.

  44. RockyLives says:

    I sent an email to the address I could find on here. Will try again.

  45. GunnerN5 says:

    Boss – ‘Hyperactive’ Alexis will improve

    Arsène Wenger believes that the “hyperactive” Alexis Sanchez will get even better this season.

    The Chilean international enjoyed a fine debut campaign in England, scoring 25 goals as the Gunners finished third and won the FA Cup.

    Alexis came back to pre-season training late after winning the Copa America, but Wenger says he is ready for action once again ahead of Sunday’s trip to Crystal Palace.

    You wonder if he has created a beach at home, and runs along the living room! He is a hyperactive guy. He needs that to be happy

    “He came back reasonably fit,” the manager said. “He practised for two weeks before he came back. He did not start from zero. In training now, he looks alright.

    “I knew before the start that, once he was here, he would be difficult to stop. So I gave him a long enough break. He had four weeks off, which is quite reasonable. He finished on July 3 and he came back on August 3.

    “He works extremely hard in every single training session to show that he is ready. I think what he does is, for me, normal. It is what everybody should do. You wonder if he has created a beach at home, and runs along the living room! He is a hyperactive guy. He needs that to be happy.

    “He played 52 or 53 games last season, plus the Copa America. That means somewhere he has an instinct that shows how far he can go. It is difficult. In March, April, May, you could see he was a bit jaded. But he is still a guy who can make a decision in a game. And once he is out there he gives 100 per cent.

    “This season, he knows what is expected from him, and he will do better than last year.”

    Copyright 2015 The Arsenal Football Club plc. Permission to use quotations from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to as the source

    Rob Kelly 14 Aug 2015

  46. RA says:

    Clunk, clunk, clunk

    Crikey – a bit echoey in here – helllloooooo is there anyone there – well except me. of course.

    Come out – cheer up – the Spuds threw away a 2 goal lead and were lucky to draw!! That’s good – innit? 🙂

  47. The Cockie Monster says:

    Yes Redders !………………`s a cure for any Gooners who suffer from Erectile Dysfunction !……………………………………………..I`m not one of those and will send you a photo as evidence !. hahaha

  48. RA says:

    Cockie god bless your socks – spare me the ‘photo tho’! 🙂

  49. RA says:

    Maybe Mickey sh’d be banned from vacations — everytime he goes away the blog closes down – he has power that boy — power I tell you!!!

    Power like voodoo.

    Who do?

    You do. The power of voodoo!!

    See he is talking to me out of the aether!! 😀 (he’s too scared of you and your thingy to talk to you Cockie Doodle.)

  50. The Cockie Monster says:

    This is after I heard the Spuds had squandered a 2 goal lead !.

  51. RA says:

    Where is our man Terry?

    I have done my best to draw him out – especially mentioning his mooning – but he must have gone away to his villa in Greece — hold on Mickey is away at the same time — they are not one and the same person are they?

    You can tell me Cocker — no one will know – we are alone! 🙂

  52. The Cockie Monster says:

    You`re even more alone Redders as I`m off !. 😀

  53. RA says:

    I did not know you were spying on me, Cockie — you should see the view when placidity has been overtaken! 🙂

  54. RA says:


    I have asked Rasp to send you my email address — but he is probably with Mickey and Terry in Greece! 😀

  55. GunnerN5 says:

    This speaks volumes about how the players feel about playing at home.


    The only positive I can think about this fixture from Arsenal’s point of view is that they are away from home.

    This way they escape the pressure of the home crowd at Emirates Stadium, and the sighs and the tuts they get when players misplace passes or when things are not going well.

    The away supporters are much more tolerant and that is what the Gunners players need at the moment while they look to put things right.

    Ian Wright was speaking to BBC Sport’s Chris Bevan.

  56. Big Raddy says:

    Thank goodness we didn’t start against Leicester – we would have been trounced!

  57. chas says:

    Her, hee, gotta love the spuds.

  58. Gööner In Exile says:

    Evening all, fine posts since my last visit.

    I would hate to be a PL Manager, I would have loved to been Charlie George.

    Turns out I should have risked Boardmasters with the boys:

  59. chas says:

    Superb, GIE.
    I didn’t recognise Harry with that shock of blonde hair.
    Banging house, indeed. 🙂

  60. chas says:

  61. chas says:

    Hopefully, anyway.

  62. Gööner In Exile says:

    It’s alright Chas in this house it’s very eclectic, Harry has just got an ACDC t shirt with “Let There Be Rock” on the back 🙂

    By the way not sure if you revealed JCs card count? I know I sent two 🙂

  63. Gööner In Exile says:

    GN5 part of me thinks that applies to most teams in the PL, ok Sunderland are playing terribly, but fans are booing the team at 2-0 down just because Norwich had another shot on goal, mass exodus before the final whistle, I reckon the only clubs that are free from that kind of atmosphere at home are Swansea, Southampton, Leicester and possibly Stoke and Watford although haven’t heard enough of the letters fans yet. The other 4 are appreciative of the football they are watching because they have very little expectation.

  64. chas says:

    I’m just putting together a ‘thank you’ for the cards.
    Your two were excellent, especially the boys card, ta.
    Count was about twenty.

  65. Eddie says:

    Gie – ha ha ha, they had my laughing 🙂 little performers, they clearly love acting! Good job they have each other to play with – I am looking after my God son once a week and I have to roll on the floor with him, it is sooooooo exhausting. I love him to bits, he is a fantastic kid, but sometimes it gets too much. I have no idea how people cope with more than 1 kid

  66. Eddie says:

    journalists just give Maurinho questions he wants. I’d say they know the answer before they ask:

    Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has mocked Arsenal counterpart Arsene Wenger as the Blues prepare to play Manchester City on Sunday.

    City boss Manuel Pellegrini signed a new contract recently after finishing a second in the league last season.

    When asked if he was surprised by the deal, Mourinho said: “Why? Some other clubs, they have disappointed for 15 years and the manager is the same.”

    Arsenal last won the Premier League under Wenger in 2003-04.

  67. Morning ladies 🙂

    I’m drunk but have managed to get it up this morning,

  68. Gööner In Exile says:

    Eddie, I think the journos are seeing through it finally, there has been much criticism of him this week. But still rather than talking about the result and performance they are too busy talking about Maureen’s attempt at keeping focus off the result by using these oft seen before tactics, which is still not really talking about the result.

    No doubt Maureen will approach today’s trip to City with his usual pragmatic approach and if successful will be lauded again.

    Thankfully not every team adopts Maureen’s style otherwise the PL would sell for now where near the money it does worldwide. The EPL can’t even really boast about having the worlds best footballers anymore, whilst we may have a lot of players who are internationals for their country we don’t have enough of the top top talent anymore. The league is becoming mediocre.

    The “most internationally capped players claim” is spurious anyway, the Spanish, German and Italian leagues have many more domestically grown players within and therefore are competing for a place amongst 26, whereas pretty much if you’re English and play in the Premier League there’s a good chance you’ll be in the England side, and if you’re playing in the PL and not English you play for your national team, whether that be Germany or Ghana.

  69. Big Raddy says:

    Oh sugar and shinola – I have forgotten to write a PM!!

    Don’t worry I will put something together in the next hour

  70. Eddie says:

    Raddy – YOU ARE JOKING, RIGHT??!! I have been sitting here waiting for the PM, not walking the dogs, but waiting and you have forgotten??

  71. Eddie says:

    GiE – do you really mean that: “The league is becoming mediocre” ? Which is a better league then, Spanish with only 2-3 real title contenders?

  72. Eddie, it’s an age thing coupled with too much pot. 😀

    I’ll go and set a few mole traps while I wait. I’ve caught two of the little b*****s but another has moved in.

    Be afraid mole, be very afraid.

  73. Big Raddy says:

    There is a hasty New Post

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