A Game of Two Halves….. Again

The same line-up as for the Swansea replay, saw Francis Coquelin keep his place also meaning Jack would be able to play a little further forward and Santi able to drop back into midfield to supplement the three.

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  • Subs  Mannone, Koscielny, Jenkinson, Santos, Frimpong, Ramsey, Arshavin

 

The first half began with Arsenal creating the first decent chance with Giroud set up by Walcott. Unfortunately the big Frenchman dragged his effort wide of the post. This was to be the highlight of the Gunners’ first forty five.

Mata scored on 6 minutes after Martin Atkinson decided to ignore Ramires’ challenge which came crunching down on the top of Coquelin’s foot. Sagna was asleep and allowed Mata the freedom of Stamford Bridge. The midfield was sluggish to say the least and Arsenal seemed to be playing zonal marking in every area of the pitch. There was little closing down except for Francis Coquelin who must have run at least three times as far as Abou Diaby. Diaby did not have the required level of match fitness for three games in a week and, in hindsight perhaps it should have been Ramsey who started.

A succession of Chelsea chances eventually led to their second goal with Ramires again given acres of space in the penalty area by Sagna. Szczesny’s challenge resulted in a penalty and booking. The goalkeeper wasn’t sent off because Ramires was going sideways to the goal with Arsenal cover arriving. Lampard sent the big Pole the wrong way and Arsenal had a mountain to climb.

Chelsea continued to press forward but couldn’t quite find the third goal which would have put them out of sight. The few Arsenal chances were ruined by Theo running behind the line and being flagged offside.

The Arsenal team was out early for the second 45, hopefully with a blast from Wenger and Bould still ringing in their ears. I expected to see Jenkinson on for Sagna who appeared to wish he could still be indoors with the lovely Ludivine.

The change in attitude was immediately obvious. The tempo was treble that of the first, closing down all over the pitch, teammates making themselves available and pressing Chelsea back into their own half. Mertesacker had a limp effort with his left foot straight at Cech after the ball had dropped to him on the penalty spot. Walcott hit a low drive straight at the keeper from a narrower angle and Giroud had a chance from a header from a cross by the excellent Gibbs.

The Arsenal goal came on 58 minutes and was well deserved. A fine interception from Vermaelen was carried forward by Cazorla who delivered a great through ball to Theo, standing in an onside position for a change. Theo took his chance well, opening his body up and giving Cech no chance.

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Coquelin was replaced by Ramsey in the aftermath of the goal. The Frenchman had been well worth his starting berth. Arsenal continued to press for the equaliser and started to leave gaps at the back. Ba rounded a walkabout Szczesny on 83 minutes but Vermaelen managed to block his goalbound shot. The final 5 minutes of injury time saw a succession of Arsenal corners, but the finishing touch could not quite be found.

As predicted by BR, it was a game of two very different Arsenal performances, as good in the second half as we were poor in the first. How is it possible for the same eleven players to produce such different performances with only 15 minutes separating them? It has to be a lesson learnt that we have to come out guns blazing not just after the half time cuppa.    

Ratings

Szczesny– Couldn’t do much about either goal. His Almunia-esque rush of blood in the second half was worrying……7

Mertesacker – Made a few good interceptions in the first half. It was the mobility of the Chelsea attack from the flanks that he could do nothing about ……7

Vermaelen – Much better in the second half, pressing the ball and showing some signs of setting a captain’s example ……7

Sagna – Really poor in the first half and his attacking delivery was awful all game. Give Jenkinson a chance….5

Gibbs – Struggled a little against Oscar and Hazard first half. His second half display going forward was excellent. Gibbs is an excellent footballer  …..8

Wilshere – Jack couldn’t influence the game in the first half and seemed content to allow Coquelin to do his spadework. Again, his second 45 was much improved as he took the fight to Chelsea …..7

Coquelin – My MOTM. Never stopped running for his team. A lone plus from the first half and was perhaps starting to tire in the second perhaps causing his injury …….8

Diaby – Lazy and slack in the first half. Better in the second when those around him could make up for his lack of match fitness …..6

Giroud – Didn’t really get much change out of Ivanonvic and Cahill the whole game. A real shame that first effort didn’t go in, it would have given the whole team a lift…..6

Walcott – No idea how to break the offside trap in the first 45. Much better when more direct in the second. Took his goal well…..7

Cazorla – Santi’s passing was off in the first half but he started to buzz in the second as him and Jack took control of the midfield…..7

B.R. – A super pre-match…..10

Subs

Ramsey – Looked lively and added some drive when he came on. Still tends to dwell on the ball when he needs to shift it quickly……7

Arshavin – Andrey didn’t really add much at all unfortunately…..6

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304 Responses to A Game of Two Halves….. Again

  1. Gooner In Exile says:

    Haven’t read this yet, but posted this just after Rasp said new post:

    Ok some fresh eyes this morning, were Chelsea as poor in the second half as we were in the first half? Or were we much better than their best? I must have missed all the game changers they brought off the bench if we are complaining about squad depth, Ba, Marin an Bertrand, hardly a who’s who!

    Did they get two goals because of the ref? Yes, and yes we could still have prevented them.

    It is very hard to try and work out our first half performance compared to the second. I am of the belief that conceding that early goal ripped the confidence out of the team and it was up to the coaching staff at half time to re instil some belief.

    They scored after 6 minutes the game hasn’t even taken shape by then it is too easy to suggest that te team went out without the required motivation. If we had conceded the game at 0-0 for 30 minutes and they eventually took the lead then i would have more sympathy with the view. We had already created the games best chance (Giroud missed) and then the hammer blow of the goal, a foul, and Sagna not tracking his man. And we saw head drops immediately. That’s the biggest problem. And then a second goal through a mistake by Diaby compounded by a very soft penalty.

    And lets not forget we had chances to equalise and if we had of done we could have gone on to win it, the best chance was cynically ended by Cole when he tripped Sagna on the edge of the area, then Ivanovic foul on Giroud when heading. All of which if we had scored we would be thankful of the point considering the helping hand the referee gave Chelsea.

  2. Rasp says:

    My points in relation to the ongoing debate from earlier……

    Yes we must accept that we won’t win a bidding war if any of the top 3 are in for a player – but that is not the point. We are failing when compared to totnum, Everton and arguably W Brom who are performing much better than us in relation to their income and resources.

    If anyone praises Wenger for hyping the players up for the 2nd half performance, they should heap equivalent criticism on him for sending them out half asleep and lacking in motivation at the start of the game.

    For me the worrying point is that the manager (like the Board) doesn’t ever seem to shoulder any of the blame for the team’s performances. Yesterday after the game, he warned the players they can’t slip up any more if we want to get 4th …. well who’s warning him?

    Blaming the wealth of the top 3 is as defeatist and delusional as blaming refs when we lose games. If you think like that we may as well not bother trying (or is that what we’re really doing any way?) We have money, we aren’t spending it … out of choice.

  3. Gooner In Exile says:

    Chas….that about sums it up perfectly.

  4. Manthan says:

    Thanks Chavs for writing dis match report after frustrating arsenal defeat it need courage to write report,,, As i am not intersted in watching and football news after yesterday night…. Great work!!!!!!!!

  5. Rasp says:

    Thanks for a very fair match report chas. I’m glad you highlighted Coquelin’s performance, he is a very good footballer with some excellent skills … he is certainly one we need to keep hold of and a player who should be rotated with Arteta to keep them both fresh.

  6. Big Raddy says:

    Carry over …….

    Yes, Spurs are better than us at the moment but FFS you guys have short memories.

    Was it my imagination or did we knock 5 passed them only 3 months ago? And is it just fantasy or have we finished ahead of them for how many seasons????

    Lost the eye for buying quality? Podolski and Cazorla aren’t quality? And in my opinion Giroud will come good.

    Rasp. I agree with you – in order to compete we have to pay more money but that does’t guarantee success does it? Torres, Carroll etc etc

  7. Manthan says:

    Rasp point is totally valid.. I totally support you rasp its not about money we are not even able to compete with likes of totun,evtn,swasena and even bradford(Shamefull Defeat).. We dont have dat belif of winning and only one man to blame is AW……..

  8. I am not a fan of either teams, so I just enjoyed a match with an insane tempo. Giroud has had better days when it comes to finishing!

  9. Manthan says:

    BR,
    At the moment Spurs are far better then us yesterday match they drew with MAnu and they are winning most of the match agaisnt smaller team unlike us…..

  10. Big Raddy says:

    Rasp. If there is one thing we know about AW it is his obsessive work ethic. Do you think he doesn’t anayse his failings and question his role in our stuttering starts?

    As to the hierarchy in the club: How does any fan know what happens? It is pure conjecture.

  11. Big Raddy says:

    Manthan. Form is temporary, class isn’t.

  12. Manthan says:

    BR,
    I dont know whose fault it is.. But AW has always taken blame on himself for not spending and salary system so I know him and so i blame him…….

  13. Manthan says:

    I know form is temprary but form like this will cost us place in CL :( :( :(

  14. slime says:

    There’s a difference between competing with teams and losing 1 match against a team. That’s why Bradford are in League 2. The PL is about consistency, and that is something we have lacked this season. I put it down to us having a massive player turnaround in the last 2 years, but others will say its a lack of quality, or it’s Wengers poor management, depending on what suits their angle.

    It’s going to be very difficult to get CL football from here, but we are only 2 points worse off than last season, and we managed it then. It’s going to be a very difficult few months as Arsenal fans, and picking ourselves up and clinging on to that little bit of hope is getting harder and harder as each game goes by. All I ask is that the players give 110% every game and that the club make better decisions than they have in the past few years. If that happens then we could be consistent and competitive again.

    Quick question: How many Arsenal players would’ve got in Chelsea’s starting XI yesterday?

    For me, Wilshire, maybe Cazorla, and arguably Sagna when he hasn’t been shite for 2 months!

  15. Morning all,

    Thanks for the write up Chas/AM’sLG, I am quite calm about the result yesterday as I fully expected us to lose; whenever a team is struggling for form(like the Chavs at home) you can count on us to give them a boost, e.g. Villa, and while I was wrong about us only getting a Europa spot last year due to VanJudas’s miracle injury free season, I think we have pushed our luck this year and where we are now is pretty much where we’ll finish.

    Still, that £24m we got in August last year will make amends eh ?

  16. Big Raddy says:

    Slime. That is how I see it.

    Chary. Same. And the money has paid for Theo’s new contract :-)

  17. Yay, Big & Randy, I wonder if Ivan has worked out what selling bonus he gets when Jack goes to Shitty ?

    More money to spend on Squillacci’s new contract – ker-ching !! :)

  18. Big Raddy says:

    Chas. I am embarrassed by the 10, it must have been Sir Walter that inspired me

  19. Rasp says:

    Morning Raddy, real events are not conjecture. We can see what is happening. We are selling better players than we are bringing in. We are falling behind teams that have a fraction of our resources. We are horribly inconsistent. The club say we have money to spend – we aren’t using it to improve the squad.

    To keep throwing in the likes of Carol of examples as to why we shouldn’t even try to buy decent players demonstrates the lack of ambition many accuse the club of displaying. Should we really stop trying to bring in good players because pool and the chavs have bought donkeys on occasion?

  20. Rasp says:

    As regards Wenger’s excessive work ethic … the Board should tell him to stop trying to control everything. He only needs to focus on the team, everything else is a distraction.

  21. kelsey says:

    Raddy,
    make up your mind :)

    Slime has said more or less what i said though I accept we have regularly lost key players these past few seasons but bought absolute rubbish as well as good players.

    You put your foot in it giving Spurs as an example as it’s consistency that’s lacking and generally a team that can hardly ever gell for 90 minutes.

    Chas a good report but will lessons be learnt. I think we have stated that many times before this season.

  22. Rasp says:

    I hope we put a clause in Chamakh’s loan deal with Wham that specified that he must play against us on Wednesday :?

  23. kelsey says:

    Hope you don’t regret that Rasp, knowing our luck he will have a blinder :)

  24. Jeanette Kliger says:

    Unfortunately, the board are very happy with Wenger running everything, as things stand. However,I wonder how happy they will be if we miss CL. All they seem to care about is money, getting it, not spending it.
    Wenger is looking decidedly worn and haggard. He worries he in many ways.
    Sagna’s lack of form, Vermaelen’s lack of captaincy – very worrying, but AW isn’t likely to drop them.

  25. Rasp says:

    :lol: kelsey, sadly I think Chamakh is not allowed to play against us

  26. dandan says:

    BR I am with you all the way the defeatist depressive nature of some of our fans is sad but predictable, winter spending as a general rule leads to a damaged club as any one who has followed Arrys career would no doubt have noticed.
    The notion that not qualifying for the CL would be a disaster, is far from a criticism of AW, rather an acknowledgement of the magnitude of his acheivments during his time with the club.
    It would seem to this grizzled old observer that those who wish him replaced would perhaps be better served supporting the likes of Southampton as they appear to have a distinct affinity with the management ethos exhibited only this week by that bastion of illogicality.

  27. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    It amazes me how people can often watch a game and focus on the negatives.

    In the 2nd half Chelsea, who are a very good side, were clinging on and from the 50 minute mark were time wasting at home.

    There are some excellent ingredients in this current Arsenal squad that all bode well for the near future and we are cementing that future by tying down our young players on long term contracts.

    As for top four this season i still think we will get it, and before any one claims i am deluded. many of the same people that were predicting we would not make it last season are doing it again this time round too.

  28. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Great post by the way chas

  29. Ha Ha Mr Syrup, I plead guilty to that ! I’m not going to call you deluded though – you just hold a different opinion to me and that is where we, respectfully, disagree. :)

  30. Rasp says:

    I didn’t predict we would fail to reach top 4 last season, I think it is much more likely this season. It takes a brave person to stand up and say something they don’t want to hear themselves.

    Platitudes are easy, they don’t address the issues.

    Bloggers who predict the worst in the hope they are proved right are not true supporters, but that description does not apply to many who now fear that our ‘3rd goal’ will not be achieved.

  31. Gooner in Exile says:

    The last player we bought in January was Arshavin, worked for half a season as it gave us a bit of fresh impetus, but cant exactly argue that it was a wholly successful transfer can we? And it was big money from memory.

    However I don’t deny the team could do with some strengthening, but I also think we have plenty to be positive about, find a way for the team to play like they did in the second half and we could be on our way, and thats not forgetting the fact we were basically carrying Diaby for large parts of the game and Sagna, never easy if you are only playing with 9 men!

    Now here’s another thought, it is clear we have slightly changed our formation in the last two games with this idea of 4-2-3-1

    I must say i like it as we are not looking for wide attackers to defend and we should have plenty of cover in the middle when fullbacks bomb on.

    So here is my question, why is Gibbs thriving and Sagna struggling?

    My view is the current line up is more like what the youth and reserves have been playing, I also think it is why Coquelin has slipped into his role easily.

    We have Frimpong in the wings too, and Jenkinson with the energy to play that right back spot.

    So heres the team I would like to see against West Ham (if fit)

    ……………………Szczesny………………..
    Jenkinson…BFG………TV5……..Gibbs
    ………………Ramsey….Coq……………..
    …..Theo…………Santi…………Jack……
    ………………….Podolski…………………..

    Subs:
    Mannone, Sagna, Koscielny, Diaby, Arteta, Giroud, Ox

    Thats not a bad starting squad, and then in reserve we have Rosicky, Frimpong, Santos, Miquel, Eisfield, Gnabry and others who i have forgotten :D

  32. Manthan says:

    Gie Playing poldi in the middle is very good prospect given the fact that OG is struggling….

  33. goonerjake says:

    Gibbo, i think he was excellent, Le Coq i thought was another i thought had a good game. Now im not saying Giroud, Podolski, Walcott as main strikers are bad, however you need a really top top striker their, if we had bought Cavani and he had been ready to play yesterday in the Giroud position, we would have won. No doubt in my mind. We only need a massive threat up front again to push teams back and make them less adventorous against us. Losses would turn into draws and draws into wins.

  34. SPECTRUM says:

    dandan – Yesterday at 4;05 on Le Grove I posted in part, this ; ” If we don’t make the top 4, we’ll see it as official that Wenger and the club are in decline. But with the A.K.B.’s we just can’t win. They’ll say it’s because The Michelin Man is only human after all, and that to finish outside for once, still proves what a fantastic record he has – 16 C. L, seasons out of 17 ( or whatever it is ) “.

    Then ( as if on cue ), you said at 10;49 above, ” The notion that not qualifying for the CL would be a disaster, is far from a criticism of AW, rather an acknowledgement of the magnitude of his achievements during his time with the club”.

    Yep, with A.K.B.’s we just can’t win. They’ll always try to spin things to make their lord and master look good. Thanks for proving my point, dandan.

  35. Unless you are a Mystic, then dont bother predicting !. I knew I was going to do well in my NVQ Mystic Course, obviously really, being a Mystic !.

  36. Gooner in Exile says:

    Manthan I don’t think Giroud is necessarily struggling, but I think Podolski is the more proven finisher, Oli just has to relax a bit in front of goal, hopefully Thierry will do some work with him as well to add a bit of craft to his finishing, he relies on the hammer left foot, which is not a bad thing in certain situations but does increase the chances of miscues. The keepers in the PL are a little better than those in France too.

  37. Manthan says:

    Problem with OG is he is a team player.. He is old fashoined Footballer a target man.. He cannot beat defenders or shoot from a range we need a proacher and in current squuad only poldi has dat quality…..

  38. Manthan says:

    Gie
    OG is still trying to get settle he will take a season so i feel poldi can play in middle.. He plays in middle for koln and was hero der he is cool finisher and strong too…

  39. goonerjake says:

    Spectrum it is you that causes the division within the support not the AKB,s as you call them, try supporting your club, who managers the club is down to the owners and directors of the club, its your job to support…. or are you just a fan?

  40. SPECTRUM says:

    Terry Mancini – ” many of the same people that were predicting we would not make it last season ( top 4 ) are doing it again this time round too”.

    Last season we “achieved” what we did almost entirely to the goals and assists from the man whom most of you on here call “Judas”. It was due in VERY LARGE part to his efforts that we managed, JUST MANAGED, to finish where we did. That, and the fact that the teams that were competing against us dropped points at crucial times, and also we had that VITAL help from the West Brom keeper Martin Fulop, whose two howlers helped us obtain the win we needed on the last day. No-one else was scoring ( enough ) goals, and Van Persie – the man you love to hate – almost singlehandedly got us Champion’s league football, and saved Wenger considerable embarassment in the process.

    In the months preceding that, we were ALSO INCONSISTENT, playing similarly to what we have so far this time around. The obvious difference being that we DON’T HAVE Robin around now. Because United paid us a fee which ended up being the price that will likely win them the league !

    So I think it’s a pretty safe bet that without his presence, we’ll need a LOT more luck to make your fabled top 4 again, don’t you ? Despite Wenger spinning the finish as “one of our best seasons we’ve had”, the good run that got us over the line, masked the fact that we struggled for much of the campaign, and it pointed THEN to what we are seeing now – evidence of an ongoing decline, with none of the issues which have plagued us for years being addressed.

  41. GunnerN5 says:

    Scrotum’s back with his predictable (after a loss) opinion and with the notable exception of a few wise men depression has settled over the site.

    What a fickle bunch, if we had the good fortune for a few decisions to go our way or had a lucky bounce or two it could have been a whole different outcome and the verbiage would not sound like garbage.

    Everybody’s a critic and all we hear are the same old tunes played over and over and over –

    I think winter is a good time to go into hibernation……….

  42. I’m not depressed N5 – I only get that from unexpected losses – our many defeats this season have been very expected.

  43. SPECTRUM says:

    goonerjake – Been over this before. It’s BECAUSE I support the club, that I DO point out our faults. Because like all of us, including you I assume, both want and EXPECT them to be rectified. And promptly. Does it look to you like we have or ARE fixing them promptly ? No ? Then I will continue to do what I am doing. Your way of “supporting” is to say ” Gee I wonder why we aren’t doing so and so.” Or ” I can’t understand why we aren’t…..” e.t.c. e.t.c.

    Well I in my own way I am trying to explain WHY those things are or aren’t happening. To me and other realists, it’s obvious why. That’s why we have forums like this. This is the way I show my support – by challenging and questioning, and not sitting quietly gazing at my navel as some consider supporting to be.

  44. Rasp says:

    Hi GN5, you know that we are just as likely to have an upbeat discussion tomorrow as a negative one today. We need everyone to keep talking, not go into hibernation :P

  45. dandan says:

    GIE I also agree we need some stiffening, but question if this time of the year with its inflated panic buy market place is a game worth playing. Maybe a last day intervention when selling clubs who have been trying to squeeze stupid prices from the market see the no deal sign appear on their cash machines,might yet prove effective, apart from that I Would settle for the continuation of our development programme until the summer.

    The difference between success and failure is often so small, for Instance had Giroud put that chance away early on yesterday all would probably have been different.

    Interestingly fans tend to say that had we had Robin he would have scored that one and yet when interviewed yesterday re his superb start to the season, Robin said that he was disappointed as he should have scored many more from the chances he had been presented with. We forget it seems that even the best miss sometimes, not that I am comparing Giroud with Robin clearly our ex was special and our current appears ordinary, yet so did Robin in his early days time again is what is needed, but patience among football fans is often as rare as celibacy in a brothel

    Personally I do not believe that failure to reach the CL would materially affect our recruitment this summer either from a purchasing power point of view or a reluctance to join from on the part of the players we seek.

    Certainly a win on Wednesday would no doubt cheer many up but in the overall scheme of things another trophy less season would not be the end of life as we know it.

  46. Rasp says:

    Spectrum, we know very well every syllable of your mission, we also know that you never join in with the good stuff, the celebration of something happy, an improving player, a great goal etc.

    If you really do not see anything in Arsenal that brings you pleasure, I am at a loss to understand why you support the club. I certainly wouldn’t waste the time and energy if I was indulging in something that gave me nothing back.

  47. goonerjake says:

    Spectrum,

    I dont wonder why we are playing the way we are! I dont wonder why we are not top of the league and winning trophies.

    I KNOW why we are not doing these things, but they will not be sorted by pointing the finger and moaning.

    I could take you through a list of things i shouted during the match yesterday which if you were their at the time would have got you to call the men in white coats to lock me up. But now after a big deep breath im back to showing my support to the current team and management. They need our support, they need your support, they need my support.

    All the best

  48. SPECTRUM says:

    Gunner N5 – Why wait until winter ? With your view on our situation it’s like you never came out of hibernation. Eight years of the same issues not being dealt with by the same person who is responsible for doing nothing about them – is “fickle” is it ? Open your eyes and wipe the sleep out of them. It is deja vu. The “same old tunes keep playing over and over again, because f..k all IS DONE ABOUT THEM “over and over again.” You should be asking WHY that is, instead of blaming others like me for daring to expose them. Sorry for the beliggerent tone, but the apathy from many on here is exasperating.

  49. Manthan says:

    Gonnerjake,
    Rightly said after we are gooners and we should support arsenal.. They really need our support… Hope luck will be on our side and we might get CL next season in reamining matches… You never know we might get CL berth by winning CL dis year…. Anything is possible ;-)

  50. evonne says:

    Spectrum – re previous conversation – has Pep already won something with Bayern? How many trophies did Arsene win for us?

    Basic arithmetic – any positive real number is greater than zero.

  51. Rasp says:

    Spectrum,

    Enough is enough. You just have to accept it when others do not agree with you. Name calling, bullying, badgering, nagging …. all very tedious and a waste of all of our time.

    GN5 is a top top supporter and highly valued contributor on this site … kindly lay off him and all the other personal stuff.

    You’re not going to change anything at Arsenal by repeating yourself on AA.

    We hear you loud and clear and we individually decide which path to take … accept it!

  52. evonne says:

    Monster – nice article, cheers my dears
    I am not Szczesny’s fan, but he did not faul Ramirez. Ramirez threw his leg towards Szczesny. The lovely Gary Neville spotted it straight away and showed how the filthy Ramirez dived.

  53. SPECTRUM says:

    goonerjake – Allow me to clarify. When I said “your way of supporting”, I meant A.K.B.’s and neutrals generally, not necessarily you personally.

    You say you get angry during a match, then “take a deep breath and and go back to supporting”. “Supporting” the very management whose actions ( and inaction ) are CAUSING you to feel that way in the first place !!!! Can you not see the connection here ? Why are you supporting a management who don’t share your aspirations for the very team that you say you support ? Don’t you see the contradiction ?

    I suppose the standard response will be ; ” But there’s nothing we as fans can do about it.” Yes there is. But it takes will and effort. And the first step is to stop them from shafting you and lying to you.

  54. Manthan says:

    evonne spot on mate….
    People say pep is a great coach i agree with that but if we all are saying him great because of what he did at barca den we might be kidding… Lets put it other way around pep was the coach of great team(Barca)… If he repeats same thing with bayern then he deserve to be honoured as great coach… Arsene is far better then pep…

  55. evonne says:

    Manthan – exactly, if I was to manage Xabi, Inniesta, Puyol, Cesc, all right throw Messi in for the sake of argument ( :) ) I would probably win trophies. Pep is completely unproven.

  56. evonne says:

    Rasp – you are so sexy when you are angry :)

  57. GunnerN5 says:

    Rasp your support is appreciated.

    Frankly rusty nuts has no effect on me at all, I chose to ignore him and I will never respond to any of his posts or jibes. I expect idiocy from him and he never lets me down, however it’s when true seasoned supporters believe that they can do better than AW or AFC that I become exasperated.

    However I do recognize that the majority of the comments are simply borne out of the frustration of wanting us to do better.

  58. slime says:

    Spectrum,

    Everyone has heard you, but no-one is listening. Move on.

  59. Rasp says:

    Much as I appreciate the reasons why it makes us feel good to denigrate what Guardiola has done at Barca, I’m afraid it is off the mark. He brought them 14 titles over four seasons and is credited by all who worked with him for his vision, coaching and tactical nouse.

  60. Red Arse says:

    Isn’t it wonderful how someone who is a legend in his own mind, cannot stop lecturing others about their stupidity, their shortcomings, their intellectual vacuity, and apathy, while playing for the sympathy vote by writing of his exasperation with us, blah, blah.

    Very few on here are interested in this messianic poop.

    Why do I visit this site everyday?

    It is to share in the common love of our club on this site; to enjoy the companionship that it brings; to joke with; to laugh with; to gossip with, and to discuss with friends and fair-minded fans, all with multi-various views and opinions on the perceived failures AND successes of the mighty Arsenal, to exult when we win, and to commiserate or let off steam when we lose.

    What I do not want is to be lectured by an occasional blogger with a minuscule intellect, an overblown sense of self worth, and with a nihilistic understanding of Arsenal, and what the club means to so many, and propounding out of this ignorance, via a sickening diatribe against the respected regular members of AA, an agenda that is anathema to many of us.

    You know who I am talking about.

    Discuss your concerns as much as you like. Put forward your views, over and over again, if you see fit, but also listen/read with respect the views and opinions of others without the continual myopic, and misanthropic disdain you seem to delight in.

  61. Rasp says:

    :P evonne

    GN5 I know you can look after yourself, I just wanted Spectrum to know when he’s overstepping the mark.

  62. dandan says:

    Spectrum are you sure that is not misspelt, could it be you arereally a spectre agent your capacity for disruption and the love of self, so evident in your repetitious outpourings lead me to surmise this may well be the case.
    Incidentally had you read the blog a couple of days ago you would have seen that I put your name forward as our next manager should AW leave,it seemed a logical choice given that you are clearly so much better informed than any one else and it goes without saying your skill set is second to none

  63. SPECTRUM says:

    Rasp – Name calling ? Where have I used terms like “scrotum” then ? GN5 can, but you say nothing to him about that. Oddly enough, a lot of what you say and have said, about our troubles make good sense and so we do share a lot in common on that front. I try not to get too heated, but some on here just can’t or won’t see things as they ARE, but how they’d wish they still were. And my views either don’t get through their defences, or they dismiss them out of hand. I’m sure you can understand what I’m saying. Don’t you get frustrated at some of the more ignorant and ill informed of the comments on here, too ? I don’t know how you have the patience, I really don’t.

  64. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    Thanks for the comments.
    GIE’s first comment of the day is a perfect summation of how I now feel about the game.

    We dominated the second half in very similar fashion to Chelsea’s domination of the first, but without a couple of crucial interventions from the ref.

    I suppose that’s because I’m a glass half fuller. :)
    I’ve found in my personal life that if I constantly think negatively, it starts to adversely affect both my emotional and physical health, so I’ve chosen not to do it. Always looking for the positives makes me feel so much healthier.

    I can understand some dwelling on the negative parts of the club’s current history, perhaps it’s in their nature.
    It’s those who seem to positively thrive when things are going badly that I can’t abide.

  65. Rasp says:

    Spectrum, I do not consider anyone to be ‘ignorant and ill informed’ in their comments just because they do not agree with my view. That is name calling and shows a lack of respect. You have a perfect right to your opinion, but not a divine right to impose it on others … do you see the difference?

  66. Rasp says:

    Thanks Arty …. I’ll have whatever you’re having … :lol:

  67. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    Anyway, I’ll leave you all to it. Good luck. :)

  68. evonne says:

    Rasp – are you married :)

    Guys, I don’t know why you get so upset with Spectrum? He is like a Jehova’s witness – thinks he knows best and for some reason tries to convince us that we are all wrong. I think he is hillarious.

    PS Jehova’s witnesses avoid my house, they know that I can talk more shit than them

  69. Gooner In Exile says:

    Yawn, did we lose? It was blissfully quiet after Wednesday :(

  70. dandan says:

    Arthur I was pleased to see you writing under that name as for many years I and my mates stood alongside Mr Mullard in the west stand on the half way line under the TV camera platform with the mike dangling down above us. He was in truth a nice guy and a real gooner.

  71. Red Arse says:

    Chas, you chicken!! :D

    Me too, if this continues!!

    By the way, your post Match Post, is spot on and sums up very well my own views. Thank you for that. :-)

  72. evonne says:

    I am still not convinced that Pep will be an instant success at Bayern. If he is as good in Germany, as he was at Barca, I will apologise; until then the jury is out

  73. Rasp says:

    Now this is real talent, all it needs is a sizzling guitar solo from chary to be up there with Bohemian Rhapsody…

  74. Rasp says:

    Thanks evonne, I think its unfair to expect any manager to be an instant success any more than with a player. There is often a honeymoon period when new manager syndrome inspires the players to put in greater effort to ensure their place in the side, but I doubt the Bayern players will feel that way. The Bayern supporters can be sure he will want to play good football …. and that would be my number one priority.

    Also Pep is inheriting a pretty good side at Bayern (we’re soon to discover how good) so the same accusation could be levelled at him as with this tenure over Barca.

  75. SPECTRUM says:

    evonne – It’s far too early to be comparing Wenger and Guardiola. At the moment it’s not a fair comparison. Firstly, Guardiola is 42. Wenger is what ? – 60 ? Guardiola has only been coaching since 2008, Wenger since 1984 – 28 years longer. So naturally Wenger has had much more time to prove himself.

    But given what he has already accomplished, his future potential and the high regard he is held in by the footballing community, I’m sure that he ( Pep ) will continue winning things into the future. Bayern have a very similar set up and financial resources to Arsenal. With the big difference being that they are ambitious and prepared to back their manager fully to achieve their ends. That’s why we should have replaced Wenger with him. He would have brought fresh ideas and rejuvenation to the club. And you must agree we certainly need that, eh ? But no, we’re not interested in changing the status quo. Which is why we’ll never be the club we were until this changes.

  76. SPECTRUM says:

    Rasp – So much we agree on. Are you sure you’re not a realist in disguise ?

  77. Red Arse says:

    To demonstrate the forgiving, enlightened ethos on AA, perhaps I can share this with anyone unfamiliar with the ambient cordial nature of its denizens.

    “We will throw ourselves underneath the wheels of any train of thought running off the rails,
    We’ll sail you through the rogue waves of your brain

    If we could bring a light to shine upon the dark and disobeying
    night so young but we still say we’re too old for cliches

    Oh AAer can only dream of the dreams we’d share if you were so inclined
    We would love to be the ones to open up your mind

    We could base our whole existence upon the cherry-strands of lacklustre hair
    We would ask, almost insist, upon treating you kind and fair

    Oh we can only dream of the dreams we’d have if our minds would be entwined
    If you would let us be the ones to open up your mind

    We’d still be ourselves beneath the banks all broken beside the stream
    ready to return your thoughts unlearned so it goes, so it seems

    Oh we can only dream of the dreams we’d share if you weren’t so defined
    we would love to be the ones to open up your mind

    If you would only let us be the ones to open up your mind”

  78. LB says:

    “Blaming the wealth of the top 3 is defeatist and delusional”

    Actually it is a fact, and was demonstrated perfectly yesterday by the first attempt on goal by Arsenal and the first attempt on goal by Chelsea:

    Giroud had a one on one with the keeper and lacked the close control to finish while Mata had a one on one with the keeper who controlled it perfectly before clinically slotting it home.

    You get what you pay for or more accurately in our case you get to choose from what is left over.

    Arsenal have money why don’t they spend it? On who, Falcao or maybe Carvani?

    Let’s see, 75k a week at Arsenal of 150k a week at City, Chelsea, United or PSG

    Misunderstanding how the wealth of the financial heavy weights impacts on Arsenal is staggeringly naive.

  79. Red Arse says:

    Rasp,

    You’ve got a new friend! Enjoy! :D

  80. Gooner In Exile says:

    RA is poeting, things must be bad!! :D

  81. SPECTRUM says:

    Rasp said ; ” Much as I appreciate the reasons why it makes us feel good to denigrate what Guardiola has done at Barca, I’m afraid it is off the mark. He brought them 14 titles over four seasons and is credited by all who worked with him for his vision, coaching and tactical nouse”.

    Totally in tune with that, because it happens to be true. However, if I had said those exact same words,it is interpreted by GN5 as “idiocy.” Hmmm. Someone’s prejudice is showing, me suspects.

  82. Rasp says:

    Hi LB,

    The point I continually make (sorry to be boring) is that I agree with you and everyone else who says that we can’t compete with the super rich clubs, but that doesn’t mean we can’t strive to do our best within our own boundaries. We have greater resources than teams who are outperforming us, we can afford to bring in better quality players to reinforce the squad. Buying is not always the answer, but it is the most obvious way of improving a weakness in a side when none of the available personnel seems capable.

    Please don’t call me naive because that is the sort of thing I’d expect from Spectrum. I believe I have a reasonable grasp of the financial landscape and I don’t believe that the big three can buy every decent player out there. Mbiwa is rumoured to be on his way to toon – he would definitely improve the defensive side of our game.

  83. Rasp says:

    Spectrum, stop trying to recruit me …. the other bloggers on here know me too well.

    GN5 disagrees with most of what I say, we courteously disagree with one another and are able to enjoy discussing our differing strands of support.

  84. SPECTRUM says:

    Rasp – Good stuff. You’re almost doing my “job” for me. But strange how no-one challenges your logic as they do mine, yet the substance of what we’re saying is so similar.

  85. Rasp says:

    OK that’s it, I’m joining GN5, chas and Redders in hibernation :oops:

  86. Rasp says:

    …. or should that be cybernation?

  87. Big Raddy says:

    Rasp. A you say , tomorrow is another day and I have no problem that some disagree with my positive spin.

    I think you misunderstood my sentence about conjecture. It was referring to the inner working of the club and the checks and balances of the management structure.

    You cannot really KNOW how far his control extends. We just guess that he has far-reaching power and an ability to sway the BoD in any way he sees fit. Perhaps he does, however these people are powerful men who have histories of working in large multi-national companies so I doubt they are puppets.

  88. Rasp @your 1.07, sadly I think Blackberry elbow has afflicted me and I’m going to have to take it easy on my frenzied, shredding-based solos…so it will be sedate stuff for a while, like the track DanDan put up the other day. :)

    Crikey, I even tried a bit of R.E.M. the other day.

  89. LB says:

    Rasp

    Saying that the club should strive to do better with the resources available is very different to calling me (yes me) defeatest and delusional.

  90. Big Raddy says:

    chary. If you can play like Richard Thompson (guitarist in DD’s track) I bow to your guitar greatness ….

  91. evonne says:

    Spec – that’s easy. Rasp is angry, disapppointed and hurt when we lose. But when we win he is happy as Larry. Just like the rest of us. And just unlike you – you seem to enjoy our defeats only so that you can say ‘I told you so’

  92. Rasp says:

    LB, that was most definitely not directed at you, I have no idea why you reached that conclusion. It was part of an ongoing debate with Raddy and I apologise unreservedly to him if it came across as personal.

  93. Rasp says:

    chary, have you seen any of the Alex Hutchings guitar stuff on youtube?

  94. Rasp says:

    Raddy @ 1:33, thanks, I agree none of us know as much as we think and somehow in the mists of debate, supposition becomes fact if we’re not careful.

    We do agree that we’re inconsistent (don’t we?) and most of us admit that we have no idea why. But then we are not employed to manage the club (obviously) so we have to look to the management for answers.

  95. Big & Randy – I only play at the same (snails)pace, not the skill level :)

    Raspers, is he the guy you were talking about before the Swansea game ? If so I have to admit I forgot the name(had a few of the usual pre match de-tensioners in my, well that’s my excuse anyway)

  96. Rasp says:

    BTW, the Bayern tickets sold out in 20 minutes this morning, just a few £82.50 seats left …. I shan’t be going :(

  97. Big Raddy says:

    Rasp. I’ll take the job for half of AW’s wages. First thing I would do is make sure my coat zipped up before going onto the pitch because it can’t help shop sales :-)

    Then I would make the subs run up and down the touchline midway through the first half which would be a reminder to the players that their position is not guaranteed, whilst at the same time give the fans something to talk about .

    Next, I would have Steve Bould spend some time in the technical area exhorting the team with threats of physical retribution should their performance not improve.

  98. Just wondering did any of the oh so impartial officials tell our players to thanks the fans who paid £60 for tickets yesterday at the end of the game ?

  99. Rasp says:

    Yes I think so chary, he’s more of a fingerbaord technician than fantastically musical (a bit too quick for his own good) but I do like the jazzy flavour he brings into everything he plays.

  100. Rasp says:

    Haha Raddy, you’ve got to love him for all that zip tugging stuff. I see he repeated it at the next game – you see he is so careful with our finances he won’t even take a new coat when he needs one :lol:

  101. Rasp says:

    Out for a bit, ketchup later ….

  102. GunnerN5 says:

    Back on the Pep discussion.

    I have no doubt that he is a good coach but Barcelona were great club before he arrived and will be a great club in the foreseeable future.

    Barcelona’s academy produces the majority of their first team squad and the remainder of the team are bankrolled.

    In their history they have won an incredible 99 cups/trophies including 21 La Liga’s, 26 Copa del Ray, 4 Champions’ League and 2 World Cup titles,

    The point I’m trying to make is that it would be very difficult not to look good when managing Barcelona.

  103. Red Arse says:

    Rasper,

    I fully understand your frustration, and the defeat yesterday only underlines that we seem to be lost in a sort of never, never football land regarding player recruitment.

    AW said (a) that he would be active in the [transfer] market, early in January. Then he said (b) that he wanted to wait until Theo’s contract was completed. Then he said (c) that he knew what was ‘needed’ for the team, but finding top quality players better than we already have is difficult.

    I can comprehend all that – it makes sense.

    Except, he was not active in the market, early in January.
    Theo has now said his new deal had been agreed in principle weeks ago.
    And finally, although we can only deal in conjecture and rumour, without inside information, to which we are not privy, it seems we were strongly linked to Wanyama and my personal wish, MBwia to strengthen the malfunctioning midfield — but they are apparently going to Manure and Newcastle respectively.

    Miscommunication? Or misdirection? Either way it leads to fan dissatisfaction such as you have expressed.

  104. Raspers, Arsene thinks his coat has potential and he doesn’t want to kill it by buying anew one, it is a good coat who does not go out or drink or smoke and you feel sorry for it that it cannot function that well; he may get a new one if he finds one of the right value in the last week of the sales…

  105. goonerjake says:

    Spectrum,

    Your right i do get upset during the game and afterwards do take a deep breath and calm down. While this may seem to you to be contradictory i believe its because during a game im irrational while after i become more objective.

    I have always hated that militant point of view from fans of football clubs, yes the club ‘belongs’ to them in a way it never can to a rich owner (unless he supports the club) But when fans speak out against the club en mass it has a terrible effect on the club.

    What you call AKB you should redefine as ASC or arsenal supporters club if like you say the club at some time in the future changes its manager and philosophy im possitive everyone on here will get behind it.

    Ps. cant fault your passion.

  106. SPECTRUM says:

    In theory we can’t compete with the mega rich clubs. But no-one explains how it can be that clubs with LESS resources than us, in some cases far less – can manage to beat us in the league, and often more than once. Does the balance sheet choose the tactics and formation, pick the players and the positions and roles they adopt ? Does the chequebook take the training sessions, or maybe the bank vault is in charge of the defensive drills this week ( if we even do any, that is ) ?

    How is it that League Two Bradford can beat us when their team only cost 7,500 pounds to assemble ? It should have been impossible for Q.P.R. to have beaten Chelsea on their OWN GROUND a few weeks ago, surely ? A feat that we oddly enough with all our “good players”, were unable to replicate just yesterday. Does that make us worse than Q.P.R. ? Apparently so.

    Face it, finances are NOT the insurmountable obstacle we ( you ) make them out to be. They are a FACTOR, but the main reason for failing repeatedly is the human element. It’s the players themselves, and by logical extension, the man who is charged with overseeing them. Finances are a smokescreen that have been used for those wanting to deny the causes and protect their own interests.

    Now I’m off to check if we’ve made any signings yet. Shouldn’t think so, as we don’t need any really, do we ? Our squad is complete, and we all KNOW we have a good team who remain injury free. So we’re looking good. Whoops, I forgot that OUR transfer window doesn’t actually start until the 29th January.Didn’t Arsene tell us so ? Because then we can get all those “super super quality” players at a cheaper price. Which of course would work fine if there weren’t any OTHER CLUBS thinking exactly the same thing.

    Goodnight A.A.er’s.

  107. GunnerN5 says:

    Chary,

    If he does find a new coat (he has his designers scouring the market place) it will not only need to be the right value but will have to possess outstanding qualities – not always easy to buy, especially if it comes down to an auction.

  108. Big Raddy says:

    Chary. You should be in the marketing dept :-)

  109. We have to hope that the Saints players ignore the hostile atmosphere to be generated by their own fans protesting at Adkins’ dismissal as anything but a home win at St Marys means if we fail to win our game in hand we stay 6th behind Everton.

    Equally worrying is that goal difference is all that separates us and the ‘dippers in 7th.

  110. Ha Ha Big Daddy, there must be more money in marketing than this accountancy lark.

  111. GunnerN5 says:

    Sam and a beautiful woman walk into a very posh Beverly Hills furrier

    “Show the lady your finest mink!” the fellow exclaims. So the owner of the shop goes in back and comes out with an absolutely gorgeous full-length coat.

    As the lady tries it on, the furrier discreetly whispers to the man, “Ah, sir that particular fur goes for $65,000.” “No problem! I’ll write you a check!”

    “Very good, sir.” says the shop owner. “Today is Saturday. You may come by on Monday to pick it up, after your check has cleared.”

    So Sam and the woman leave. On Monday, the Morris returns. The store owner is outraged: “How dare you show your face in here? There wasn’t asingle penny in your checking account!”

    “I just had to come by,” grinned Sam, “to thank you for the most wonderful weekend of my life!”

  112. Gooner In Exile says:

    Man United lost to Blackburn at Old Toilet last season, Man City lost away to Sunderland. As the saying goes “When Saturday comes…..” Or more fitting now for our much televised league “On Any Given Sunday”.

    The fact remains we have to lose to the lower sides less than everyone else. Are WBA better than us? Last week they lost away to Reading didnt they?

    Spuds haven’t had a blip yet and it’s worrying…..but it normally happens about now…..fingers crossed.
    Chary I think those sitting in the Upper Tier would have paid closer to £85

  113. GunnerN5 says:

    Bought the wife a hamster fur coat for her birthday, she was delighted with it.

    We went to the fair; took me 4 hours to get her off the big wheel!

  114. GiE – I thought the away section was all lower tier at the bus stop in Fulham ?

  115. Shard says:

    I still haven’t seen the game, but from watching some of the highlights, and from comments all over the net, it seems we had a shocker of a first half, and had a rough time with some calls from the referees. Both of those things seem par for the course these days. I was planning to watch the game before I commented but my internet connection doesn’t seem to be fast enough for ArsenalPlayer right now, so it’ll have to wait.

    We all know there are some problems in the squad, and dipping into the transfer market will, or could, help us. But why does every loss/draw have to become an examination and re-re-re-revaluation of every single aspect of our club? You would think no other team ever draws or loses a game, and if they do, they go about switching their ethos completely around every time it happens.

    Yes, some people think the manager is beyond salvation, and that Arsenal will never win again with him at the helm. Some people think the board is the problem. Some people think lack of coordination among players is the problem and that they’ll improve with time. Some feel we’ll get 4th place, some feel we won’t, and some feel it’s not that important anyway. We know all these views exist, we know there’s a huge debate on spending, and the intricate details of it, but why oh why is it revisited after every disappointing result? People complain about the groundhog day at the club, but I’m genuinely more concerned about the groundhog day of the debate. It’s unhealthy, and I find myself fearing for the club not because of the loss, but because of the vitriol it will face after every defeat/draw (and sometimes even a win)

    In the end, we all have our opinions, but constant repetition of the same circular debate, I find exhausting. The club have chosen a path that I broadly identify with. Individual gripes aside, and despite wanting new signings, and trophies etc. what I want from my club is that I can identify with it. Those that don’t might feel disenfranchised, but the club, and the manager have the right to decide how to run things. I see nothing constructive coming from constant criticism, or abuse. We are where we are. We’re still the greatest team the world has ever seen.

  116. Shard says:

    Thank you for the match report chas. Sagna’s recent form has been worrying. Is it to do with his contract situation? Or is it to do with his injuries (2 broken ankles)? I must say that I really like Sagna. I was in the stadium when he sparked the comeback against Spurs last February. He’s also the only one who wasn’t all cuddly with RVP when we played them earlier this season (and I think that was the reason RVP flew into Sagna’s ankles in the match), he’s referred to Spurs as ‘the enemy’. Basically, he seems to get what it means to play for the club. But, his recent form is a cause for worry. Hopefully, he’ll get back to playing at the consistently high level that we’ve come to expect from him.

  117. Red Arse says:

    Brilliant, Shard — and how are you, sir? :P

  118. GunnerN5 says:

    Shard,

    I’m so glad that you have re-appeared as we have been in desperate need of hearing opinions of a non critical nature.

    You are right “We are where we are” and “We are what we are”

    There is no need to keep on pounding the drums of discontent – the noise is becoming deafening and nobody is listening.

  119. Merseforever says:

    While I have believed he is no longer the man to lead us for around 3 seasons now, I now actively want Wenger gone at the end of the year. I really think he has lost the plot. Obviously no one has to share my view, but these are some issues I have and I would be interested to hear what those who still think he is the right man would say in response.

    Those saying that it is hopeless when trying to compete with the money of the top 3 are, in my opinion hiding behind a smokescreen. It’s just giving Wenger another thing to hide behind.

    Ba at 7.5m this summer would hardly have been stretching the cash. Phillippe Auclaire recently told some Arsenal supporters that Mata thought he was coming to us. We then dithered on the price trying to haggle it down and then Chelsea swept in. The difference being 20 and 23m. Who else remembers the Alonso from the Scousers saga as well. Should have come to us, we didn’t want to pay the price and he slipped through our fingers. None of these incidents I’m talking about would have needed us to spend exorbitant amounts, and its criminal that it happened repeatedly. Wenger now keeps going on about how much money we have, and yet says there is not enough quality to augment the squad. This is clearly untrue. Some will say Wenger has his hands tied by the board. But looking at Swiss Ramble’s blog we are sitting on 70m+ cash reserves. All the profits we have made from player transfers have not been invested, and reading 442’s article and from other sources, it is Wenger who has absolute control over all of these things. If it is indeed the case that he has his hands tied by the board, then the honourable thing would have been to come out and say it, and not be complicit with their duplicitous actions.

    Another major issue I have is our defending. Our defensive problems have remained more or less unaltered for 5+ years now, and it can only be put down to the managers negligence that it has not been sorted. Again the lack of resources argument is a smokescreen. Everton and Tottenham conceded less last year with smaller budgets. I can’t remember I watched the Arsenal play feeling absolutely confident that nothing would come of an opposition corner or free kick.

    Whilst I have many other complaints, another is the truly astounding amount that he has wasted. Many say that it is incredible what Wenger has achieved on a shoe-string budget. But the fact of the matter is, is that we finish more or less where we should. Our wage bill is 40m greater than Spuds, and we needed Martin Fullop’s shocked to qualify for the Champions League. I don’t view last season’s qualification as Wenger’s achievement. I view it as Judas Van Staplec**t’s. Think about this nonsensical socialist wage structure. The fact that there are so many players on our books we cannot shift, due to over inflated wages. All of this is down to the man and his ideological experiments. I think the penny dropped for mewhen he dropped Arshavin for the FA cup semi-final in 2009 so as to prove to the youngsters that they could beat Yanited in the Champo League semis.

    I appreciate everything he’s done for us. He is undoubtedly the Arsenal’s greatest manager, but I believe he is nowhere near the best man for the job anymore. In fact, I believe that had Arsenal been under the stewardship of a superior tactician over the last 4 years, we would be in a better position today.

  120. Gooner In Exile says:

    Shard your opener is post worthy in its own right….chapeau

  121. king tony says:

    sagna has been truely awful in 5 of the last 6 games,
    a blind man could see that,
    bizare that its one area where we have a quality replacement too!!!
    the rest of the bench was laughable,our squad is thinner than an anorexic sandwich.
    buy ashley williams,already superior to our defenders,buy felaini,then we might get 4th.

  122. Gooner In Exile says:

    Yes I hear David Moyes is willing to let Fellaini go for £8m and even better Ashley Williams doesn’t want to play in COCup for Swansea and would prefer to warm the bench at the Emirates.

    King Tony name two players on Chelsea’s bench that you would prefer on our bench and would be worth £70k a week.

  123. Red Arse says:

    You might be interested to see two articles from the other side of the Pond regarding Silent Stan, and his clubs originally published in August 2012.

    — “We already knew Stan Kroenke held a bit of power in Denver. In this week’s Sports Illustrated, the magazine called him the “most powerful man in sports.”
    In a lengthy profile, the owner of the NHL’s Avalanche, NBA’s Nuggets, MLS’ Rapids, NFL’s St. Louis Rams and Arsenal of the English Premier League was described as a “grounded” Midwesterner who walked 2½ miles each way to a one-room schoolhouse as a kid.

    The reclusive mogul, who has turned down many interview requests from local media in the past, did not reveal too much but allowed he hasn’t been sick since 2001.
    “And I could swear,” Kroenke told the magazine, “that (getting sick) came from drinking out of the Stanley Cup.”

    Arsenal fans in London have complained about the club’s American owner, calling him “Silent Stan” and saying he’s cheap.

    A related article said:-

    LONDON — What do Colorado Avalanche fans and soccer superstar Robin van Persie have in common?
    Disgruntled with a championship drought, they both call billionaire sports mogul Stan Kroenke names:

    Cheap. Cheap. Cheap.

    Signs on the sidewalk point to the Arsenal Football Club in the Islington neighborhood where I’m camped out for the Olympics. So a ramble past a restaurant selling curried goat and a shop promising permanent leg hair removal for 39 pounds sterling, ends with a craned neck to inspect the giant soccer stadium towering above me.

    “It’s an expensive plaything for a rich man,” says Mike Peacock, a soccer fan on a pilgrimage from Cambridge with his 9-year-old son to visit the home of the Gunners, one of the most storied and beloved clubs in the English Premier League.

    Arsenal is owned by Kroenke.

    “Right,” says Arsenal supporter John Wilson. “I think they call him ‘Silent’ Stan.”
    Oh, boy. Now it’s a nickname that Kroenke can dislike on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean.

    The beauty of sports is how fanatics eat and sleep the same high-octane passion, no matter what country they call home, regardless if the team of their dreams plays soccer or hockey.

    Avalanche fans, aching because there has been not even a sniff of the Stanley Cup since the last happy championship toast in 2001, constantly complain Kroenke cares more about the bottom line on his worldwide sports portfolio than stocking Colorado’s roster with talent. Despite the acquisition of free-agent P.A. Parenteau and extending the contracts of young players such as Erik Johnson, the Avs are $16 million beneath the NHL salary cap.

    In England, any resentment for a national sporting treasure being owned by an American seems to have died.
    “There once was an ideology that an English football club should be owned by an Englishman,” says Peacock, a healthcare administrator. “But I think most fans have come to accept ideology doesn’t buy you players who can win. We are willing to sacrifice ideology for trophies.”

    The problem for Arsenal is it has not won any major soccer silverware since the FA Cup way back in 2005.
    That’s an insult to the club’s heritage, so disturbing that van Persie declared in July he would have to win his trophies elsewhere and asked to be shipped out, despite a year remaining on his contract.

    Didn’t Kroenke get the same headache from Carmelo Anthony with the Nuggets?

    While hockey fans in Colorado won’t like it, Arsenal recently made a financial commitment reported to be in excess of $15 million to acquire forward Lukas Podolski, who has the skills to wear No. 10.

    Nevertheless, the second biggest shareholder in Arsenal blasts the leadership of Kroenke. “Victory is absolutely not ruled out, but the current politics of the club’s management will leave (manager) Arsene Wenger and his team fewer and fewer opportunities in the long run,” billionaire Alisher Usmanov insists in a recent interview with the Russian edition of Forbes.

    Sound familiar, Avalanche fans?

    At the massive store selling team merchandise inside Emirates Stadium, a van Persie jersey is marked down 33 percent.

    Something else catches my eye: It’s a T-shirt printed with a quote from Wenger: “We don’t buy superstars, we make them.”

    Funny, but those same words would be a perfect fit on any current piece of Avalanche gear.

    But if it’s truly funny, why aren’t the fans of Arsenal or the Avs laughing?

    For Stan, what goes round comes round! :-)

  124. Rasp says:

    Great comment Shard … it seems we’ve moved on thanks to your input.

    As regards the coat, PHW has told the Star that the coat is not worth £69.99, we’ve made an offer for £29.99 We think that’s a very fair offer and they should be grateful we’ve shown an interest.

  125. vp says:

    I totally concur with Rasp and cannot understand why investment is still being pulled back.

    The glass cannot always be half full. There are times when you need to realize that it’s half empty, or you never end up getting a refill! We’re 22 points behind Man Utd,and its only just January. The lack of pre season foresight and planning means that we are approaching another transfer window with the pure intention to survive, rather than thrive ( I just hope that this does not push Wenger to ‘panic buy’). Our predicament is self inflicted and how certain fans continue to blame referee’s, injuries and financial inferiority, and take the accountability away from the club is a the underpinning reason why the glass will remain half full until the penny finally drops. And by all means if you’re happy with that, then that’s your own choice, but don’t be dismissive of the claims of the people who are not, by using extreme examples such as going concern threats , or another one of my favorites -‘the younger generation want success at any price’ . This is just pure lazy, and demonstrates the inability to think outside the realms of the club’s Annual Report.

    Up until this stage, the club (Wenger) has remarkably managed to successfully juggle investor needs with that of the fans, but as our expectations grow so will the need for the club to acknowledge the ‘investor vs fan’ tradeoff. Our model does not have the economies of scale to fully satisfy both parties-and never will. And yes, our future cash projections will make us better off than we are right now, but anyone expecting us to flex our financial muscle past the risk return portfolio needs of our owner (Kroenke) are just setting themselves up for further heart ache. Doesn’t anyone find it strange as to why we are the only club on the planet that are taking the FFP seriously. Moreover, the only true believers being the Arsenal fans; not even Glazidias believes, because if he did we’d be exploiting these ‘dead certain’ unrealized future gains right now, not in two years. How long will the club continue to view its best assets as a means to deliver substantial ROCE (return on capital employed) to its custodians? They need reminding that the FFP is a loss minimizing measure, not a profit maximizing one. And quite frankly, so do some of the fans.

  126. ces1ne says:

    Oh lord, we lose & look who comes out of hiding to preach his bile gospel to us….sorry, I can’t take another week of that clown making tensions run way too high on such a level-headed blog. See u guys in a few days.

  127. vp says:

    Red Arse

    Kroenke will stick around for a while, particularly as the broad band rights are there to be capitalized. I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a long term exit plan in place . He will eventually cash in his chips. Most likely to the highest bidder-wouldn’t it be ironic if it were to be a sugar daddy.

  128. Rasp says:

    It seems that many of our valued contributors (and my mates) are abandoning the blog because of Spectrum’s presence and this I find very upsetting.

    I’d like to ask you all a question …. would you prefer it if we banned him and rewrote the ‘constitution’ of the site?

  129. tomstoned says:

    Rasp..i hope you dont ban spectrum,i think that he will in time cool down,and i hope that those who turns away from the blog,come back…after all it is a super Arsenal Blog Rasp..well thats my humble opinion anyways…

  130. Red Arse says:

    Hi vp, :-)

    You make some valid points, and even tho’ I understand your frustration, I still don’t agree with all of them.

    We all let off steam occasionally, me too, but I sometimes think we are sounding off at the wrong person.

    That article I copied above from the Denver Post shows that the Avalanche fans in the US are reported to feel much the way you and many others do over here — and possibly/probably the fans of the other clubs he owns in America.

    If the comparisons made are accurate, (?) the ‘model’ being pursued at both Arsenal and the Avalanche has nothing much to do with either Gazidis or Wenger.
    The common denominator here is Silent Stan.

    Neither Wenger nor Gazidis would be permitted to behave in any way that was not authorized by Kroenke.

    Perhaps the ire of dissatisfied fans should be turned on him, but that is not sexy and would not fit with the agenda of those wanting to heap abuse on Wenger for not ‘spending’ and vilifying Gazidis for being awarded bonuses by ………. Stan …………… who is obviously pleased with the way things at the club are being run.

    The fans disappointment and frustration at not winning trophies is all too real — and I include myself in that — I want to win everything going, but realistically who or what is going to change that?

    This is not a bovine acceptance of the status quo, but it is being pragmatic and realising that the fate and future of the club lies in the hands of its majority owner, whatever anyone else says, and therefore falling back on what we do best …… supporting our team until the winds of change move their perfidious arses! :-)

    COYRRG

  131. tomstoned says:

    and you know many in here feels tha same about me as they do spectrum…and for me…being allowed to post one ore two comments..well gives me a better understanding of what The Arsenal is all about…
    and im not that negative today..if we can continue as we ended yesterdays clash with Chelski…im quite positive…but we need to put some results together…there’s a very thin line between winning ans loosing..to me if Giroud had scored on his early chance..i think we would have cruised to victory..

  132. evonne says:

    Rasp – no! Don’t ban him, but whoever replies to him has to write a post

  133. goonerjake says:

    Rasp,

    Alright pal, its up to you in the end, but i for one dont mind zx speccy, i think that those who stay away because of him should re evaluate, they can ignore any comment made by him and any responces made to him as these replies are always headed Spectrum, plus even though i dont agree with his views in the strongest possible terms, he still is in the arsenal family, and he keeps coming back here so he must like us.

    Anyway it is up to you. May i say this is still a great site and anyone thinking of leaving because of another person should be careful….. we dont want to leave spectacles on here all on his own do we?

  134. Rasp says:

    Thanks tomstoned, it was an honest question. I have never considered banning anyone on the grounds of opinion alone and you certainly have nothing to worry about.

    The repetition has killed today’s debate and I feel very sorry for chas. He’s a top bloke. He stood up and volunteered to write the match report but now feels he doesn’t want to be part of the discussion. He’ll probably think twice before volunteering again.

  135. Rasp says:

    Thanks goonerjake :) the point is, it’s not really up to me, I have always tried to live up to the wording in ‘About AA’ at the top of the page …..

    …. “The character and standpoint of the site is created by you, the bloggers – there is no single site owner with a drum to bang”

  136. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    Rasp,
    I’m certainly not abandoning the blog.
    Though I do like to have a choice of whether to be around on the blog when repetitive negativity is taking a front seat.

    I don’t think he should be banned or that you should rewrite the constitution either. After all, some like his presence and at least he’s not using his pathetiepithet any more.

    In some ways I find it amusing that he thinks it’s his job to preach to those who need to be enlightened. The outright self-obsessed cheek of it is quite staggering.

    On the other hand, spending half of our time talking about one particular blogger is really tiresome.

    To tell the truth, I thought you had already blocked his IP address when he gave us a few days grace after we beat Swansea in the FA Cup replay. All credit to you that I was completely wrong.

  137. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Afternoon
    Glad I’ve been in work missed most of the discussion.
    Don’t let him get to you remember it’s ONLY A FONT.
    Much love
    Sheep Hagger.

  138. tomstoned says:

    Thx Rasp…
    chas wrote a great post today and i have been in here all day and can only hope that chas comes back asap..
    its abit like me and Red Arse…we’ve stopped talking along time ago ;)..still i think Red Arse often writes superb both comments and posts..dont tell him i told you so ;

    well well…ill tell you a fun story about this blog Rasp,we are 12 Gooners up here in the cold north who meets once a week to have some beers and watch Arsenal games and debate…and we all follow this blog and many of our debates are founded on comments and posts in here…

  139. Rasp says:

    Thanks gonad, the repetition is partly my fault, subject closed as far as I’m concerned.

  140. Rasp says:

    That’s brilliant tomst, how amazing to have such a passionate Northern enclave. Please pass our best wishes to your fellow gooners up there and tell them their input on the blog would be very welcome.

  141. Red Arse says:

    Rasp,

    Below are the AA ‘Rules’ which sets out the ethos of the site.

    If bloggers conform to this there is no need for banning.

    If someone persistently transgresses, then perhaps you might need to set out, within these ‘rules’ what the consequences will be — for everyone and anyone.

    The blogger concerned has moved some way to conform, compared with his opening salvos, and if he cuts out the personal confrontations and just voices his opinions — then there will be no problem, from my perspective.

    About AA
    This site was set up in February 2010 by a group of nomadic bloggers who rarely agree over the complexities of how our club should be run, but are united in their attitude towards healthy debate and the need for a forum where we can all air those views without ridicule.

    The character and standpoint of the site is created by you, the bloggers – there is no single site owner with a drum to bang!

    All opinions and viewpoints can be freely expressed, all we ask is that no-one descends into insults and name-calling. We welcome comments from supporters of other clubs as long as they obey our rules and make it clear which team they support.

    Wit is preferable to sarcasm. When a discussion becomes an argument, it is time to agree to differ.

    If a blogger has an issue with another site, they should post their comments on that site. It is not acceptable to use Arsenal Arsenal as a platform from which to attack others.

  142. goonerjake says:

    Right back to the match,

    If we can play like we did in the second half no team in the prem could live with that. I will qualify that by saying we need to bring jenks back in at right back, arteta needs to get fit quick and we do need 1 outstanding striker.

  143. tomstoned says:

    Thx Rasp i will pass it on..well off…c’mon you Gunners..

  144. jnyc says:

    Nice report Chas. RASP, great point about about blame for first half weakness. We see it too often this season. Also Coquelin, why couldnt he get a single minute all season before Arteta went down! thank you for mentioning rotation and keeping players fresh, because im sure everyone is sick of me saying it. How many terrible late seasons do we need to see before we realize Arsene runs players into the ground. The only rest for guys like gibbs, podolski, is when theyre injured or sick. Protect Jack!

  145. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    I just ingore u know who when he types I don’t react or type back.
    It’s simples is it not,I sent him to Coventry last week hes on ingore.
    How sad aM I.
    🎭
    I’m watching Zambia v Eithopia in the ACN .🆒

  146. evonne says:

    tomstoned – me too, I can be uber negative, but thanks to AA my views now are more balanced than ever. I stopped reading the poisoned media and read comments of likeminded people, and that works a treat for me – I consider myself well informed in all matters concerning the AFC, up-to-date and blisfully optimistic.Because at the end of the day that the only tragedy would be if we followed in footsteps of Pompey, Leeds or Rangers. Everything else is for a reson.

  147. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Ps I’m scouting for Wenger
    Im after cheap Africans

  148. evonne says:

    Sheep – is ACN on now? Have we no African players? What about Frimpong?

  149. Rasp says:

    That Eboue’s a good player – we should sign him :?

  150. Big Raddy says:

    Rasp. I assumed you were joking! Spectrum has an opinion and a way of expressing it which I find unpalatable but I respect his right to hold it.

    What I will not accept is abuse of any fellow Gooner

  151. Rasp says:

    It was more of a rhetorical question Raddy, and any way, I’d have to put the idea before you and the rest of the Board :)

  152. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    It’s on euro sport now,Evonne
    Mr Wenger needs more Africans as they are cheap as chips.
    As he won’t spend a lot he from Austria.

  153. Big Raddy says:

    evonne. Well said.

  154. Big Raddy says:

    Rasp. I would just follow what the MD suggested – he is all-knowing

  155. Big Raddy says:

    who is from Austria?

  156. kelsey says:

    I haven’t read every comment but are you saying Rasp that some of our regulars have said they will stay away from AA or aren’t posting because of one blogger or is it that many of us reasoned folk are being realistic about the squad in general, as opposed to a one off knee jerk reaction to one result, or possibly a bit of both.

    Personally I look at AA as a daily blog and things do change on a daily basis though in my case I don’t believe i have wavered in my opinion all season and to an extent last season.

    To me this isn’t about the past.Wenger is a fantastic manager but there are many signs that we have had the best of him.That doesn’t mean I am asking for him to be sacked or removed as things will evolve with time.
    I don’t think we have a strong squad therefore I will comment as to how i see it. It doesn’t possibly make me right, but opinions are what the blog is all about,surely

  157. Raspers, if I ran a blog I would ban on the basis of either abusing a fellow gooner or if another clubs fan slags off our club -they would be tin tacked after one warning.

    Speccy has not personally insulted anyone, as far as I recall, and I believe his confrontational style may be due to the anger he feels at the mismanagement of the club. On the rare occasions I have been talked down to here it has not been by Speccy.

    Anyhoo, anyone see the pic of Wenger supposedly at Heathrow last night ? Straw clutchers like myself are hoping he’s on a scouting/deal-sealing mission.

  158. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Wenger was born in Austria like hitler and podoiski

  159. evonne says:

    thanks dear Sheep.
    No African players, hip hip hooray!! I wonder how many players did the opposition have to send to the ANC?

    It’s all true Raddy. I think it was GiE that put me out of misery when we lost to United a couple of years ago, and I never looked back. I am confident that between us we know all we need to know about the Arsenal.

  160. Really Sheepy ? I always thought he was born in Alsace, a german enclave of France.

    And is not Podolski of Polish origin, born near Katowice ?

  161. LB says:

    My tupence worth is that Spectrum should not be banned. Everyone knows what they are going to get if they engage in some kind of debate with him.

    Solution: don’t respond if you don’t like what he has to say.

  162. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Polish sorry the pod I .
    thought Strassbourg was in Austria

  163. Big Raddy says:

    kelsey. You often say that you say things as you see them and I respect you for that,

    but to be fair you have been saying that on and off since the blog started :-D

  164. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Gervieno is in the acn with Congo

  165. Red Arse says:

    Hi tomstoned, :-)

    There is a reason I do not chat with you now (and I remember that we used to chat on another blogsite).

    Unfortunately, when I write to you, I do not always make myself clear, and you seem to think I am being critical of you, even when I am not.

    As I did not wish to cause offence I have avoided responding.

    I am perfectly happy to chat to you again, as long as it is understood that I cannot change my humour — so do not get upset. OK? :-)

  166. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    No good players on show in this game it’s 1-1 .
    The Eithopia players are to skinny.
    And Zambians are average

  167. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    Rasp,
    Apologies for giving an answer to your rhetorical question. :)

  168. Red Arse says:

    Sheep,

    You have got to be banned for getting all your facts wrong on Pod and Arsene — and I am sure Hitler was born in Australia. :-)

  169. Shard says:

    Sheep,

    Any sign of Stoppila Sunzu? As I recall he was Zambian and linked with us, Imagine that, a defender named Stop-illa, and armed with knowledge of the art of war(tsun-Zu). A warrior Godzilla like stopper. Just what we need :)

  170. evonne says:

    Sheep!!! Wenger in German part of France, Podolski in POLAND, like me.

  171. Red Arse says:

    Monster gonad,

    Was that a hypothetical answer to a rhetorical question? :-)

  172. Shard says:

    GIE,

    I had to look up what chapeau meant :) Thank you. But if that was a headline post, it would be self defeating I bet. It’ll achieve exactly the opposite of what was intended :)

  173. Crikey, just noticed January has been a total bitch of a month – 1 point out of 9 in the league this month,;.that’s scary.

  174. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    Must have been, RA.
    (I think).

  175. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    chary,
    Last year we got nought points from January, so at least we’re doing better.

  176. vp says:

    HI Red Arse

    I do not sanction blame or frustration towards Wenger or Glazadis in respect to our ultimate strategy. Your absolutely right, their powers only stretch so far. They are employees,merely agents to our principal owner. They are there to serve the owner first and foremost and we cannot criticize them for doing that. Perhaps i didn’t make this clear – it is Kroenke that i am displeased with above and beyond every other director/employee at the club. I think that a lot of people believe that changing our CEO or manager will somehow transform our corporate strategy, and that we’ll start investing vast amounts of money. I’m not one of them. Furthermore, this is not what i ask for. I would just like to see the club invest to its capacity. That’s why i referred to the this as the’ fan vs investor trade-off’- i do not believe that it is possible to deliver optimum returns to both parties-someone has to lose (particularly with our model).

    Here’s how i see it . An owner of football club should be viewed more as a trustee, rather then an investor. Someone who is there to safeguard the long term future of the club (which he does), and be prepared to put the interest’s of the people they serve above their own(which in my opinion he doesn’t). The owner’s wealth is less important. These are the two pivotal factors for me.

  177. Shard says:

    RA,

    I’m doing well. Though the negativity was getting me down, as it always does. As regards your article on Kroenke, I am not sure we can really compare with any of his US franchises with Arsenal. Arsenal don’t depend on him to finance us. As the club have made us aware, we follow a self-financing model. Which means Kroenke not spending money on us makes no difference. Nor should it make any difference to the Avalanche fans that we bought Podolski for $15million. And speaking about the NBA. The Denver Nuggets have definitely improved since Kroenke took over. No two ways about that.

    Having said that, it doesn’t mean I’m kroenke’s supporter or fan. I just don’t think the situation with Arsenal is comparable to the US teams.

  178. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Lol
    In not to good at geography I left school with 10 fags and a love bite.
    No O levels

  179. Red Arse says:

    vp,

    I better understand where you are coming from and we are more in agreement than not! :-)

    If you were to be in a position to ask him, I am sure that Kroenke would not publicly deny the ‘trustee’ bit, as he would not want the bad PR that such a negative response would generate.

    However, having spent a large part of my working life, so far, helping, advising and guiding similarly driven men, I cannot envisage that he spent hundreds of millions of pounds sterling on acquiring Arsenal for purely philanthropic reasons, such as safeguarding the club for future Gooners, or to act as a trustee.

    He does not confide in me – of course :-) – but I would bet Raddy’s favourite guitar that, at root, he has/had his eye on the main chance, and, long term or no, he will want a substantial return on his outlay.

    When will that be? Depending on how his personal financial portfolio weathers the crushing economic whirlwind currently blighting the Western economy, that could be sooner than many might think!

  180. Red Arse says:

    Sheep,

    A love bite?

    You are supposed to hand back the false teeth after the passion!

  181. I say ” Hang the Bastard ! “…………………just kidding and from my previous statement that I am a Mystic and also a Psychic, I have not foreseen that will happen, so breath a sigh of relief there SPECTRUM !.
    I remember the first time I used my gift of prediction, It was when George Graham left us, I said then……I predict a Rioch, I predict a Rioch !.

  182. dandan says:

    Rasp Please do not ban spectrum, unless he becomes truly abusive as it would endow him with an importance far beyond that, that is actual and in my opinion demean us as a collective.

    I may well stand in a position that others see as unwavering or unduly loyal, I may appear to irrevocably refute what others see as progress, indeed both these may be true.

    But and it is a big but, the truths of experience are ingrained across the years and just as it is true, that as the song says “youth is wasted on the young” so is experience wasted on us older folk, for without doubt such knowledge would be better served in the hands of the young.

    It is the interaction between these myriad opinions that endowes your blogg with a stand out quality in the midst of the barrage of mediocrity that is the Arsenal blogosphere and just as we have the off button on the TV, so we can skim past any comment or contributor we find less than appealing, thus imposing our own censorship if we feel such action necessary.

  183. Red Arse says:

    Shard,

    That is an interesting take on kroenke.

    I was, as usual, careful to include a caveat in my copying of the article, “If the comparisons made are accurate, (?)” (check it out) :-)

    However, that may be, it would be a mistake to think that kroenke compartmentalizes his ownership stakes to such an extent that they are not all included in his global total assets.

    What I mean is, for example, if one, or more, of his franchises became financially unstable because (say) fans could not afford to go watch them, the chances are that he may have put Arsenal forward as part of the collateral for any loans he may have needed to purchase them, or for loans to buy new players, and, in extremis, this might result in him having to sell Arsenal to pay off those loans or refinance those franchises.

    Think of all the clubs in his sporting empire as beads on a chain — pull one and all the others change position. :D

    This is all supposition, of course, but not beyond the realms of possibility.

    In the final analysis, if financial push came to shove he would want to save the club(s) he most loves, and sacrifice the other(s).
    It figures that Arsenal, who he clearly seems to have no personal sporting interest in, would be high on the sacrificial offerings list! :D

  184. barumgooner says:

    Nice post Chas, pretty much as I saw it. Are we failing to start games brightly due to the fact that our manager doesn’t ever change style and strategy depending on the opposition and just sends them out with a little ” you all know what to do lads now just go and do your best and remember to try to have fun ” then react at half time, whereas the opposition actually study us and exploit our weaknesses. Funny old things tactics !

  185. Shard says:

    RA,

    I can see the accountant in you peeking through there :) Perhaps Arsenal will be the first to be ‘sacrificed’, but Arsenal also offers the most growth potential to his earnings (although less assured earnings at this point), and is the widest known of all his sporting concerns. Those factors could make Arsenal prime for a sale, or most important to keep in portfolio, depending on how you look at it. :)

    In short, no one knows what Kroenke’s plans are for us.

    So, if say Kroenke is not allowing Arsenal to spend money on signings, what does he stand to gain from it? Is it all to keep Arsenal’s share price high and more attractive to suitors? That’s the only angle I can see here, but I’m not sure how likely it is. Can you think of any other ‘ulterior motives’ that Kroenke would have as regards not spending, or in any other aspect of running the club?

  186. RockyLives says:

    Excellent report Chas. I agree with every aspect of it – which means it must be brilliant :D

    I felt frustrated after the game, but I still see enough positives to feel we can finish top four again and then go on from strength to strength next year.

    On the spectrum (intended) of Arsenal support, I am far closer to the Terry end than the Spectrum end.

  187. GunnerN5 says:

    Rasp,

    I do not believe that Spectrum should be banned. My stance is to ignore his posts and not to respond to them – works for me.

    You see – he can neither change nor convert those of us who cannot be converted.

    But I must admit that I’ve succumbed and posted to a few one line/word zingers…………

  188. Rasp says:

    Chasgomulnad ;) … can you confirm who you want to be awarded with the assist for Theo’s goal pls

  189. Rasp says:

    Scrap that last request – I’ve just found your email thanks

  190. Red Arse says:

    Shard,

    sssshh (he thinks he can do without the aggro — expect a sale within a year!!) :P

  191. Big Raddy says:

    DanDan.5.38.May I say it is a privilege to share blogspace with you.

    Rasp.It must be Santi

  192. Red Arse says:

    Shard,

    You do realise, that when Kroenke does the deed, and sells to Usmanov, those who respect the ‘self funding’ model will become whingeing doomers (sorry Kelsey) :-) , and those who are *%***%%$$£*ers will become enlightened, sweet talking AKBs as money on a Giiiinormous scale is splashed indiscriminately all over the shop, by Usmanov, including his famous “A million Bucks for a Gooner, every week” Lottery!! :-)

    Then he dies!!!!!! :-(

  193. ces1ne says:

    Oh no…more RA humor!!!! ;)

  194. Red Arse says:

    Hi ces1ne, :D

    My very early years spent in NYC have taken a long time to forget!! :-)

  195. didit says:

    Hi all
    Great posts RA, GN5, BR and Mallard
    All great reads. Thanks v much.
    Should be back in the saddle of me high horse soon :-)
    Surely the biggest of all blogging crimes is being borrrring :-)

  196. Shard says:

    RA,
    :lol:

    It would be a bit of a role reversal I guess. But one thing bothers me about that. The assumption that Usmanov would be any different. He takes every opportunity to criticise the current board, but he doesn’t say anything substantially different as to what direction Arsenal should take.

    He talks about increasing commercial revenue (check), he talks about making Arsenal one of the biggest clubs in the world (check) , when asked if he would spend big to buy some players, he makes some reference to how anyone would pay anything for Messi, but how those players are scarce, and how in the future, transfer market prices might go down. Which I read as a reference to FFP (check)

    The 2 things he’s said that are different to the current board is the demand for a share issue (because it benefits and strengthens his ownership position, while helping in the popularity stakes), and the call to pay out dividends (which the board hasn’t done for ages, and shouldn’t endear Usmanov to fans screaming bloody murder about how Kroenke is robbing us)

  197. ces1ne says:

    As I am Polish also, I still dream of the squad the national team could have if Podolski & Klose wouldn’t have gone to Germany, along with the younger Pols that are key players in the Borrussia Dortmund squad who are part of the national team ATM. (Only half Polish tho, from my my mother…Fathers side is German, so I guess I get the best/worst of both worlds. Made for some interesting family gatherings growing up)

  198. Big Raddy says:

    Didit. Have you figured out how to use your satellite system yet?

    Hopefully all is well in Mickyworld

  199. Red Arse says:

    Did I tell you this one? The memory is going — Shard does that to you!! :-)

    Fifty Shades of Grey

    My missus bought a paperback
    In Costco, Saturday.
    I had a look inside the bag –
    ‘Twas “Fifty Shades of Grey”.

    Well I just left her to it, see,
    And went off up to bed.
    An hour later, she appeared
    The sight filled me with dread.

    In her hand she held a rope,
    The other, held a whip.
    She brandished them around a bit
    And then began to strip.

    Well, forty years ago I might have had a peek.
    But Doris hasn’t weathered well –
    She’s fifty-eight next week.

    Watching Doris bump and grind
    Couldn’t be much grimmer.
    And things progressed from bad to worse –
    She toppled off her Zimmer .

    She struggled back up to her feet, a good half hour later,
    Put her teeth back in and said
    That I must dominate her.

    Now if you knew our Doris, see,
    You’d know just why I cringed.
    I’d been two months in traction, ‘cos
    My hips and knees unhinged.

    She stood there nude.
    All naked, like,
    Bent forward quite a bit , and, jumping back in fright,
    I stood on her left t*t.

    Doris screamed, her teeth shot out – My word, what HAD I done ?
    She moaned and groaned then shouted out
    “Step on the OTHER one”

    Well reader, I can tell no more
    About what occurred that day.
    Suffice to say, my dark brown hair,
    Turned fifty shades of grey.

    Black and blue, battered too,
    With wanton, wild perversion,
    We decided that a night of sin
    Was scarce worth such exertion.

    Thank Heavens she has binned the book
    And peace reigns, like before.
    She’s head to toe in winceyette
    And back to back, we snore.

    Where’s GIE? Poetry? What poetry? :P

  200. Big Raddy says:

    ces1ne. You can support both teams. Lucky man.

  201. ces1ne says:

    Hey RA, definitaly a place where you can get into a bit of mischief (good & bad) whether you’re trying to or not ;) Been here my whole life (besides a few years in California for college) & as much as I want to leave bc of how expensive it has become, I know I would end up right back within a year.
    When/why did NY have the pleasure of calling u a resident if u don’t mind me asking??

  202. didit says:

    Raddy
    Sadly, nowhere near the bloody thing.
    Its January, so I’m away Scouting. Trying to unearth a Workaholic Diably with thick legs and bad breath.
    Should be Mission Accomplished v soon.

  203. Red Arse says:

    ces1ne,

    Born there, then Wichita at age 5 (ish) — then the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

    Now a neighbor of Rasp, immobilized in Herts, UK! :-(

    Just kidding, Rasper!! :P

  204. RockyLives says:

    Regarding Spectrum…
    I am also of the view that he should not be banned.

    Personally I have no real interest in talking to him because I don’t like being lectured at by somebody with their fingers in their ears.

    My solution is to not engage.

    That said, he has dropped his silly tag line and, on today’s evidence, seemed to be occasionally engaging in what one might almost call “normal” Blog discourse.

    I think we might be winning him over (not in terms of his opinion, but in terms of how to engage in a mutually productive debate).

    I also think AA regulars should resist the temptation to immediately use abusive terms towards him when he joins the site on any given day. I consider myself among the guilty parties in this regard, having occasionally referred to him as Speculum.

    And notwithstanding this current blather, can I suggest that although we should not ban Spectrum, we should ban DISCUSSING Spectrum – as the interminable navel-gazing about him has taken over the blog just as much as his own oft-repeated arguments :)

    If you want to respond to his points – do so (in the spirit of AA – without abuse etc).

    If you don’t – just ignore and move on.

  205. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Poetry from Wales.

    I lost my arm in the army.
    I lost my leg in the navy.
    I lost my coc* in a butchers shop and found it in the gravy.

    Any one watching the saints game saints fans protesting about sacking of Atkins
    Much love
    Sheep Hagger™

  206. RockyLives says:

    Roses are red,
    Violets are blue,
    I’ve got alzheimers,
    Cheese on toast.

  207. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    He wants u to react it works with a few of. U .
    I don’t type to him Simples.
    He’s only a font

  208. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    I’m a arsenal fan thru and thru.
    But surely lads can I support swansea against the Chavs in the worthless cup.
    It will be good for the city to get to a worthless cup final .
    Or will I get banned from here ?

  209. How could Arsenal Arsenal capitulate on account of the spectre of an idiot? Rasp, as the founder of this site, along with the lively Peach, should continue as is. I don’t agree with all the sentiments here but if the Spectres want to disagree, let them form their own site to spout their vehemence on. I like this site as it already is. I love The Gunners unconditionally. Those who don’t can go and do tiswas elsewhere

  210. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Calm Down tony
    Take a Valium he’s only a FONT.

  211. kelsey says:

    I can’t believe how this one person is the main topic of discussion on here for days on end. Can we please move on. One person Mr Cummings kindly note.

  212. I love Arsenal Arsenal, Radford , Brady, Rocastle. Don’t start me off. I LOVE ARSENAL. O. K. !!!!!1

  213. Father`s an Idiot !!!

    Your Dispicabubble !

    Arsene`s iron door hinge`s will rust !.

  214. Yes kelsey , we must move on, but this guy should be put to bed.
    Spec, we are not happy right now but we love Arsenal. Wenger may not be proving to be the real deal right now, but there is no one better. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. O.k.?

  215. Oh no!! Son of Spec

  216. Big Raddy says:

    Tony. Good to see you are so committed :-D

  217. Gooner in Exile says:

    I always preferred Commodore 64’s

  218. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Zx spectrum 48k good computer I had one bring back ,jet set willy.

  219. evonne says:

    DidIt and Rocky are back, everything is back to normal.

  220. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Dont ban him Rasp. Hes entitled to his views.

    However, i have recently started fantasising about punishing him. At work, colleagues call out “Terry”, “Terry” but i dont hear them. I am transfixed with an image of flogging him as other AAers chuck rotten fruit. Very nice

    Other times i am riding a horse and am have him lassoed.Ime enjoying the ride, hes not. Very nice indeed

    One of my favourites is breaking into his house wearing an Arsene Wenger mask, tieing him to a chair, and inflicting punishment by replaying all Arsenes interviews since 2007…..i am also armed with a hair pin. Extreamly nice.

    But overall, no, dont ban him. hahahaha

  221. Gooner in Exile says:

    In reality those that think 3rd/4th place isn’t a trophy shouldn’t really care about our league results at the moment should they?

    We know already it is only 7 more wins before Man United are out of reach mathematically, so whats the difference whether we win lose or draw in the league from now until the end of season?

    Once we have 40 points in the bag and have voided relegation all we have to concentrate on is winning the CL or FA Cup, surely we have a squad big enough for that?

  222. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Fa cup yes but come on winning the CL we got no chance.
    We will struggle against Bayern
    Brighton in the FA CUP is a little easier ,but remember Bradford

    Sheep

  223. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    Terrence at the Emirates

  224. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    Sheep nose

  225. evonne says:

    Chas – got you, I knew you would respond to Terry’s 9:12 !! Thank Dennis you didn’t go for a video with whips, as I was sure you would :)

  226. I’ve been on a few lectures on self development and PMA type stuff. One of the big rules is to stay away from negative people. Negative people get drawn to each other because they constantly need to have their negativity confirmed. Negative people also try to convert positive people as they can’t handle people who are positive. Positive people are proven to have happier lives than negative people.

    Spectrum said earlier that Rasp “doing his job” for him. He’s taken it upon himself to enlighten us all.

    I get negative after a loss and I’m not feeling confident of getting top four. I also believe that spuds are better than us at the moment. But if I was spectum I’d just kill myself and be done with it.

  227. dandan says:

    Its been a heavy week but here are some memories for real gooners to remind you how lucky Arsenal fans have been.

  228. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Eh mullard
    sheep nose u lost me

  229. evonne says:

    GM you are just terrible :)
    What I was told was that if 2 people get together, one happy and one unhappy, it is seldom that the happy one will make the miserable person happier. The opposite is true though – the miserable feck will drag the happy chappy down to his level.

    Having said that I am going to take my pills now, good night all

  230. Sheep Hagger ™ says:

    Prozac or Valium
    Hit me

  231. Rasp says:

    I’ve just updated the widgets …… GiE’s predictor is definitely cup half full :(

  232. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    empty, Rasp

  233. I think the team is less than the sum of it’s parts. i don’t think the players aren’t good enough I think there is a coaching/managerial problem. We need a couple more players too. We need an Arshavin like signing to lift the team. we also need to drop Sagna and give Jenkinson a run.

  234. Rasp says:

    Maybe gonad, but his pic of li’l George is also the most uplifting :P

  235. If we beat west ham we’ll be level on points with last season. then we just have to win the next 7 to stay like that :(

  236. Rasp says:

    There are many ways of looking at it gm, we’re currently only one place lower in the league that at the same time last season. We need the spuds to have a bad spell, it will be between them and us for 4th I’m sure

  237. The new Southampton manager has just spoken in spanish for about 5 minutes without letting hi translattor get a word in

  238. I agree Rasp although the bindippers seem to be improving. Massive game next wednesday

  239. Rasp says:

    Yes sadly it looks like Sturridge seems to be the missing piece from their jigsaw.

  240. Rasp says:

    I agree, how many pieces are missing from our jigsaw do you think?

  241. 9 :) just joking. I don’t profess to be an expert rasp But another striker is a must. I’d like a nasty bastard that kicks the shit out of the opposition too.

  242. Rasp says:

    I’d settle for a midfielder that fits that description and a quick mobile striker that lives to score goals and only needs the faintest glimpse of the goal to pull the trigger.

  243. We’re in agreement then Rasp. I like Giroud but I think too much has been put on his shoulders for his first season. Following what we had before was always going to be tough.

  244. RockyLives says:

    I think we’re going to get David Villa.

    Really.

  245. Rocky. That’s possible. I think it’s Higuin :)

  246. slime says:

    I think Luiz Gustavo from Bayern is the thug we need. Doesn’t get as much game time with the likes of Martinez and Schweinsteiger being at the club. Only 25 too.

    For a striker it’s got to be Cavani or Lewandowski. Would like El Sharaawy though as an alternative who can also play wide or behind the striker. Maybe Podolski could be that finisher too, if given a chance.

  247. RockyLives says:

    You might be right Slim.

    I’ve just got a funny feeling about Villa.

  248. oz gunner says:

    well played stepping up and doing the report gonad!

    I’m happy with the team and definitely think they can go places, I just want them to rock up before the second half. Arsene was adamant that we were too gun shy early on against City so perhaps we came out too attacking, hence why we were all over the place for the Mata goal. A pressing hard working team…pretty please Arsene!!!!

    Interesting to read on a Chelsea blog I wrote for that they not only felt the Ramires dive was a penalty, but that it should have been a red card also. Haha very delusional!!!

    I don’t think Spectrum should be banned, but I am passing around a petition to get him deported from Oz!

    @ Evonne

    did you hear ces1ne is Polish nudge nudge wink wink!!! :)

  249. oz gunner says:

    I won’t be a happy camper though if mbiwa goes to toon for 6million.

    That’s a steal of the highest order.
    Come on Arsene hijack the deal like like ‘Arry did with Remy

  250. Gooner In Exile says:

    Family back home :D George awake for 4am feed :(

    That swingometer gave me hope last season….on the Dippers as both Carragher and Gerard said their sudden improvement is the result of 3 very winnable home games, so they are not doing cartwheels yet.

  251. oz gunner says:

    glad to hear GiE! that little sod haha

  252. Big Raddy says:

    GIE. That’s good news. Sleepless nights ahead in the Exile family

  253. included says:

    …Additional Information ca be found here…

    [...]Wow, marvelous weblog format! How lengthy have you ever been running a blog for?[...]…

  254. Big Raddy says:

    Re: Negativity.

    In the words of the master song craftsman Kenny Rogers in his 1979 epic Coward of the County

    “Now It don’t mean your weak, If you turn the other cheek”

  255. didit says:

    Morning all
    Great the Exiles are all back together in the family nest

  256. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Will we sign anyone, and if so, first teamer, squad player or one for the future?
    I’m convinced it will be at least a first squadder.

  257. Big Raddy says:

    It is difficult. Will a short term striker problem send AW running to the market? He paid big money for Gerv, Pod and OG, plus Theo is scoring regularly.

    Would he splash €25m on a finisher? I doubt it.

    A Song replacement is more likely but Le Coq has come on leaps and bounds in his few appearances.

    Mmmmmm ….. knowing the parsimony at AFC, my guess is No, we won’t sign anyone until summer unless it is a loan. But I would love to be wrong

  258. kelsey says:

    Morning all.

    I don’t think we will sign anyone either.

    By the way who is the blogger Arthur Mullard is it someone using another name or a new recruit ?

  259. Big Raddy says:

    kelsey. Have you noticed how Mullard puts up great video’s in the morning?

  260. kgooner says:

    Morning everyone. At the office and as always, sample the comments since yesterday. First order of business.

    I have an issue with us comparing this season to last season. We don’t compete in a vacuum. We play in a dynamic competition. We might get the same points as last year, but Chelsea were on a bad run in the epl last year. I want the team to play quality, competitively and consistently.

    Yesterday i had a thought. how many of us gooners would give up 4th place chase for an FA cup final?

    Personally i would take the FA cup over 4th place final considering the run we’re on. But then, a second thought struck me, i wouldnt be too sure about us bagging the cup at the final given our inconsistency. Sigh :(. Tough luck.

    Lets win the CL and surprise everyone

  261. kelsey says:

    Oh got it, Raddy

  262. kgooner says:

    I doubt we’ll sign anyone and if we do one addition to the defence. Its difficult signing class now because of the cup ties and players leaving in between seasons. Our january signings last year were a flop. Limited options and variety

  263. Red Arse says:

    Morning mellow fellows! :-)

    Kgooner you start work early – or are you on the continent? :-)

    Kelsey, if you changed your avatar name I would still know it was you. :D

  264. kelsey says:

    I certainly wouldn’t say no to a Cup final victory but what concerns me more is that if we fail to qualify for the CL and achieve a Europa Cup place it plays havoc with training and flight disruptions playing an endless amount of games on a Thursday and then play league every Sunday. I have listened to other managers and it adds to extra pressure on the squad.

  265. Red Arse says:

    Doomed, doomed, we are all doomed – whatever we do we are doomed, I tell you!! :D

    Author: Cassandra Kelsey

  266. kelsey says:

    Red Arse

    you are a naughty boy. I might get my friends from the costa del crime to pay you a visit ;)

  267. Red Arse says:

    Hi Kelsey, :-)

    What is the weather like on the Costa Lot?

    It is really bitter this morning here in deepest Herts!! :-(

  268. kgooner says:

    @Red Arse am not on the continent. Am on GMT+3 Nairobi. I would never be in that early for work!

    @Kelsey your right about thursday night footie. But what if team B got a run for such games? More rotation and playing time? It doesnt pay much and i doubt the board would prioritize it much. We might just find out

  269. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    kelsey – don’t worry about the Europa Cup, we’re finishing 10th according to the swingometer.

  270. Red Arse says:

    Hi Raddy, :-)

    Your 6:48. We all have an element of ‘negatory sentiments’ in our makeup. :-)

    Negativity is all part and parcel of life and as such is acceptable even if unwanted. What is not acceptable is obtuse confrontation — still let’s hope that is behind us.

  271. Red Arse says:

    KG, so you are in late? I will tell your boss!!! :D

    I would prefer to be in Nairobi today, I just cannot get warm.

  272. kelsey says:

    RA, a mild 22 forcast today

    kgooner I thought our B team was our A team ;)

    What’s all this about sending le Coq out on loan to Spain (Lady Arse) a relation of yours RA

  273. kelsey says:

    Let’s have a positive day.
    Who will be the next decent player to leave as we lack ambition.

    1 to 2 Wilshere, 4 to 6 vermaelen evens Cazorla ;)

  274. oz gunner says:

    Arsene walked out in the gray light and stood He saw for a brief moment the absolute truth of the world. The cold relentless circling of the intestate earth. Darkness implacable. The blind dogs of the sun in their running. The crushing black vacuum of the universe. Some say he is on borrowed time in a borrowed world and borrowed eyes with which to sorrow it. However, the Arsenal faithful knew a genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus but a molder of consensus.

    In the fell clutch of circumstance Arsene has never winced nor cried aloud. Under the bludgeoning of chance his head is bloody, but unbowed.

    The Arsenal we want to be does exist, somewhere on the other side of hard work, faith and belief, and beyond heartache and fear of what lies ahead

  275. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    Great to see George plus Mum back in the bosom of the Exile family.

    Are you using one of these, GIE?

  276. Red Arse says:

    She is far too smart and eloquent to have anything to with me, Kelsey.

    I am honest enough to admit, my friend, that I do not have a clue what is going on at Arsenal, at the moment.

    Not buying MBwia who we were trying to get in the summer for £17m – and he is now going to Toon for £7m. Que?

    Not buying Remy for £7m when we were supposed to be chasing him when he was valued at £15m last summer.

    And so on. I know it is all rumour and conjecture, but the whole thing is a mystery to a dopey fellow like me!

  277. Red Arse says:

    Have you swallowed a dictionary, Ozzer? :D

    Been dying to say that to someone!! :-)

  278. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    kelsey – they’re all shit – flog the lot

    oz – superb – intestate earth, no idea what it means but I love it.

  279. evonne says:

    Morning all
    Re singnings in January – I always thought that January signings are never any good. Why would a player move half way through a season? Either his club want to push him out, the proverbial getting rid of dead wood, or he is a ruthless mercenary and does not give two hoots about disrupting his teams season.

    The reason that his contract expires half way through the season means that he has done it before. Bad apple in my books. Theo is different, of course

    Oz – thanks for the tip about ces1ne, how did you know?

  280. oz gunner says:

    Morning all.

    lot of doom mongering going around. Where’s terry when you need him?

    haha RA i wish, my dictionary consists of 10 words stuck on loop! If only i was hooked on phonics as a kid!!! :)

    Agreed on the mbwia front. He was there best player against us in the champions league, a leader, and can play in two positions we need cover for. He must chew with his mouth open or have horrible manners!

    cheers gonad.

  281. oz gunner says:

    @ Evonne

    secretly he’s been private messaging me in regards to information about you. But then I told him you hate Szczesny and once had a crush on delap…since then he blocked me and marked me as spam

  282. slime says:

    I think we might sign 1, probably a DM. Wanyama has been mentioned this morning. Apparently Villa wants out of Barca, but £16m for a 31 year old doesn’t sound Wengeresque to me. Last minute loan maybe?

    As regards FA Cup over 4th, I would bite your hand off. I think this team needs to get the monkey off their back and some self confidence, winning a trophy does both and can lead to better things.

    I think Wenger had to prioritise 4th due to the financial benefits, but he’s now realised that this team needs silverware to get to the next level, and that’s why we saw the team we did at Bradford away.

  283. evonne says:

    from TalkShite magazine, don’t look if you have a weak stomach

    http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/features/130121/arsenal-training-ground-photos-one-you-havent-seen-189788

    I hope you-know-who doesn’t see it

  284. evonne says:

    oz – ha ha ha ha :) he is safe with me! If he supports Arsenal and can write in English, he must be between late 20s to mid 30s. Too young for me, I don’t date guys under 40 :)

    Slime – absolutely. AW is under humongous pressure to win a trophy. CL or FA are still withing reach. HAVE to get one

  285. Red Arse says:

    Evonne,

    Ces1ne is part Polish (mum) and part German, and is living in NYC. He told me yesterday. :D

  286. oz gunner says:

    get both of them Slim and i’ll eat LB’s bike

  287. evonne says:

    RA – aha, thanks, that explains his love for AFC and good English.

  288. Morning all

    …………New Post ………………..

  289. Bryan says:

    A bit late with this I know but I can’t believe this team don’t turn up from the start of games, think it was similar to against Swansea game recently although we were slightly better in 1st half than against Chelsea.
    No urgency or will to win again, then showed all those qualities in 2nd half.
    If we played like we did in 2nd half more often this season we would have alot more points, it is just not good enough.
    On Sagna, for me he has gone, he has been absolutely useless lately, out of position & keeps giving the ball away & when he dropped to the floor after being kicked, he was like a damn pansy lol.
    Could not understand the Arshavin substitute either, the guy puts no effort in at all, we might as well of gone down to 10 men.
    Every single time we play Chelsea at the bridge we get a player fouled & they score, this season, last season when Mata made it 3-3 & I remember an Essien equaliser in last minute 4 years ago after Cashley had fouled our man, criminal.
    Hopefully now we will make a few ngood signings & give the rest of the squad a boost & get them performing from the very start of a match.

  290. slime says:

    Oz, I’m afraid to say that I think Bayern will turn us over, but if the draw is kind in the FA Cup then we have a chance. Just beat Brighton and I will be happy.

    How many other managers in world football have to worry about the financial implications of finishing 4th? Wenger is far too long sighted sometimes, he needs to start concentrating on the here and now, afterall, that’s what the fans look at. Having said that, maybe it’s us who are too short sighted. A manager who cares about the future of tge club cant be a bad thing, surely? A bit of balance is what’s needed I think.

  291. arthur mullard's left gonad says:

    Does anyone really think it’s possible to target a cup competition as our route to winning that elusive trophy?

    There are far too many elements of luck which come into play. Who you get drawn against? Whether the tie is home or away?
    That’s without all of the one-off game variables, pitch, referee, injuries, sendings off etc and most of all, pure unadulterated luck. (see chavs CL campaign 2012).

    Also could we resist THE temptation to put the ODD word in capital letters to indicate stress, PLEASE?

  292. Bryan says:

    For me this current team will not win a thing, its as simple as that, the attitude is so wrong.
    I can’t see us beating any of the big teams because we either start the game frightened or just don’t turn up until we have a mountain to climb.
    If we won the FA Cup would be a massive bonus & surprise to me & I am going to the Bayern game believing it to be our last CL game for a long time unless something is done within the club & they show some ambition.
    I am sorry to be so negative but I can’t help what my head tells me :-(

  293. Red Arse says:

    TA,

    You say we have enough depth in the squad and on the face of it, I would have to agree with you.

    However, when you see we still have many youngsters such as Anneke, Afobe, Campbell, Myaichi, out on loan, and myriads of other senior players like Bendtner, Park, Denilson, Chamakh and Djourou also out on loan, and all of the senior players unwanted, it is quite sobering.

    In addition, we have other unwanted players on our books like Fabianski, Arshavin, Santos and Squillaci, all of them bought to ‘improve’ the squad, it is amazing how poor our recruitment policy was and perhaps still is.

    That is 9 players unwanted and there may be others!!

    No more buys like that, please, Arsene.

  294. Bryan says:

    Red
    Thats what happens when you shop at oxfam, apart from Arshavin the rest were at todays standard very modest buys, the old saying you get what you pay for comes to mind ;-)

  295. MickyDidIt89 says:

    300

  296. 20/20Vision says:

    Can the FA review the result and overturn the refereeing incompetence/other reason/bent Rubles? decisions?? effing blindman could have seen that foul directly before chelski’s first! Arsenal players repeatedly wrestled out of challenges in the box, dive for the “penalty” and no media witch hunt about cashley Cole’s pro foul with Arsenal bearing down on goal chasing the equaliser.

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