Will the spirit of Wenger & Bergkamp always live on at Arsenal?

Micky’s post on Sunday: ‘Calling International Gooners’, in which he asked why ‘millions of bright eyed and highly intelligent young guns from around the globe discovered their spiritual homes at The Arsenal’, led to a fantastic collection of comments. It became very clear there is a great support for Arsenal across the world and that the passion, with which International Gooners (IGs) support the mighty Arsenal, is equal to that of those who are based on British soil.

It was also fantastic to read that Gooners across the globe state that the style of play and the philosophy of how the club is managed were, and still are, major reasons for supporting the Gunners.

The lack of recent successes, as in winning silverware, hardly seemed to bother many IGs, which should bin the belief held by some ‘cradle-Gooners’ that many newly acquired fans by the club are predominantly ‘glory hunters’ – who would start supporting another team as soon as it would become clear that future trophies are no longer a guarantee for Arsenal.

The majority of Arsenal’s worldwide supporters, who responded to Micky’s brilliant post, have become Gooners in the last 17 years, and this seems to be directly related to the arrival, and subsequent impact on the club, of/by Le Professeur, and especially, The Iceman.

A considerable number of IGs said that it was the discovery of the phenomenally talented Dennis Bergkamp and his beautiful skills that got them interested in Arsenal. Subsequently, the club’s history, the philosophy of how the football club is managed, the style, and the passion with which Arsenal play football drew them further in, never to look anywhere else again.

Exactly the same happened to me. Dennis Bergkamp had become the embodiment of all that was beautiful about football. Nobody in Holland thought the national football competition would fully recover from the departure of Van Basten to Milan, but on to the scene came a young Dennis Bergkamp, another great youth product from the Ajax academy, and Dutch football fans – including many of those who, like me, did not support the Ajacieden – rejoiced in the sheer beauty of his football.

It seemed, back then, that he simply had everything, both as a football player and human being. Not only was he technically gifted and had a great spatial awareness, he also had a great desire to do beautiful things with a ball – but always in an efficient, extremely deadly way. He was strong and aggressive but at the same time light-footed and nimble on the pitch, a total professional on and off the pitch, humble when interviewed, always focussed on his health and fitness, and constantly practicing to stay fit and get even better.

I was 20 years old when Dennis started his professional football career, and it was probably the first time I started to understand football a bit more (still learning every day though). Bergkamp lifted my appreciation of football to another level, and I became a huge fan, and a ‘follower’.

It was inevitable that Dennis would leave Ajax/Holland sooner or later, and he ended up at the inventors of catenaccio: Inter Milan. In the two years he was at the Italian club, he did not settle down at all, due to both cultural differences and a couple of significant managerial/ownership changes at the club.

Dennis needed to escape/ to be rescued, and the rest is well-known history.

I never forget the initial welcome and warmth Bergkamp was given by the Arsenal supporters, as well the adoration he received almost straight away from newspaper journalists and TV analysts. Dennis had finally arrived at his spiritual home and after a slightly difficult start – it took a while before he scored his first goal – he slowly but steadily grew into a modern-day legend.

It is hard to think about Bergkamp without thinking about Arsene Wenger at the same time, and visa versa. Wenger cleverly built his team around the Dutchman and through him he was perfectly able to translate his vision and tactical ideas onto the pitch. Of course, it did help that Arsene had been able to build up a fantastic team of international world beaters – in goal, defence, midfield and attack – around the Iceman.

Dennis was a loyal player, and the fact that he was willing to end his career at Arsenal was, in terms of continuing and safeguarding Wenger’s football philosophy on the pitch, of great value to Arsenal.

Many worried what would happen once DB10 would leave, but in Cesc Fabregas, Wenger had found another player around whom he could build a team, and continue his total football-esque philosophy. And occasionally, we were able to forget about DB10 a bit.

Although Bergkamp and Fabregas had different attributes to offer, what they had in common was the ability to conduct the game, to translate Wenger’s vision onto the pitch, and to lift our football to another level. The Spaniard, however, decided that Arsenal was not his spiritual home and left us, just as we were ready to start picking the fruits of his phenomenal development at the hands of Wenger and his staff.

This season, it became clear for all to see that Wenger has been struggling with putting his Wengerball stamp on this new Arsenal team. Due to a bad start, the departure of Fabregas, and the season-long injuries to Diaby, and especially Jack Wilshere, Arsene had nobody with both the qualities and the stamina to fill the conductor role. Both Ramsey and Rosicky had decent stints at it, but they either missed the experience, form, consistency, or stamina to really make Wenger’s most important position theirs.

So what will happen next season? Who will become Wenger’s conductor in charge? My view has always been that Jack Wilshere is the man around whom Arsène wants to build his next big team, but his long term injury combined with his inexperience, make it very hard to bank on him next season.

It will be interesting to see what will happen this summer, and I would like to invite you to share your views on this matter with us today.

But there is also a more long-term question to be answered.

What will happen once Arsène decides an oeuf is an oeuf and retires, or leaves us to manage another club? What will happen to the spirit of Bergkamp & Wenger; the culture and style of football that they have been able to establish over the last 16 years?

Do the Board of Directors want to continue with it, and if so, how will they achieve it?

And what do you think Arsenal should do once Arsène’s hangs up his boots? What sort of football should we play / what do you want to be the long-term, future football-identity of the club?

TotalArsenal.

‘We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit’ – Aristotle.

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145 Responses to Will the spirit of Wenger & Bergkamp always live on at Arsenal?

  1. [...] Will the spirit of Wenger & Bergkamp always live on at Arsenal? [...]

  2. MickyDidIt89 says:

    A+ post Total, thank you.
    Blending slightly from yesterday’s post into yours, the dreaded question of who succeds AW. However much I think this or that could be better, as I said yesterday I don’t want anyone else. However, the day will inevitably come, and my biggest single fear is that I see no-one on The Board capable of plucking an Arsene-like gem out of the blue. I find the thought terrifying as its such a massive decision.

  3. arsenal-steve says:

    I have watched the Arsenal for 54 years, since the Arsenal 4 Man Utd 5 game of 1958. I have supported them with joy and vigour during that period. But there is a lttle too much of ‘blind acceptance’ in the frame of your article. Like you I loved Bergkamp, and Pires, Thierry, Freddie. Ian Wright excited me. Liam Brady rivalled Thierry as one of our greats. BUT and a big but, there does seem to be something amiss at the moment. Great people change. Look at Thatcher and Blair, once heroes and now reviled. I say this because I do not want to see Arsene go that way. But I hear more discontented Gooners than ever. To ignore their reasonings would be stupid and undemocratic. Arsene’s late buying frenzy during last summers transfer window, after we had been trounced by Man Utd, and effectively lost the league before the season started, disappointed me I must say. If it happened again this season I would still love my beloved club, but I would not love Arsene Wenger any more. His almost autistic manner of dealing with fans does not help either. He has been a great manager but will end up like the two polititians I mentioned if he does not move with the times and with what his own fans want.

  4. Big Raddy says:

    Steve. We disagree but that was yesterday’s discussion

    TA. Another fine post. One of my all-time favourite Arsenal moments was watching DB10 break his duck. The first was clinical but the second was a thing of beauty which very few players could repeat (v Southampton on a sunny September afternoon).

    It summed up DB – as you say – “He was strong and aggressive but at the same time light-footed and nimble on the pitch”.

  5. MickyDidIt89 says:

    Steve,
    I don’t know, but judging from Arsene’s comments after last summer, I suspect the fiasco was not of his doing at all. I think if the same thing where to happen this summer, Arsene would most likely walk. He would not need pushing.
    I have a good feeling the board will not let that happen, and I expect a happy window :-)
    Back this evening.

  6. Red Arse says:

    Hi TA, :-)

    Would you forgive me if I re-posted an item I wrote pre-New post this morning, before I return to your latest massive missive? :-)

    I suspect I run the risk of the wrath of Rasp, but I feel the need to voice an ‘opinion’ nevertheless! :-)

    Good Morning, good people,

    Rasper, in response to your 8:17 a.m. addressed to OMG, can I say that on re-reading your conversations with him, that I am concerned there has been a misunderstanding of terminology, that is causing unnecessary angst.

    My understanding is that you were quite rightly stating the site’s position that all opinion is welcome, provided it is done civilly and without rancour or insult.

    OMG/WeeDon, does not seem to have disputed the site view.
    The way I read it is that he felt that some of the chat was expressed in a way he took as unsubstantiated and unacceptable ‘fact’ and not as simply the author’s opinions.

    Those of us who have had previous discussions with Herb realize that sometimes fact and opinion can become intertwined when he is facing up to a fairly hostile challenge. To me, this is only a matter of presentation. The rules do not require good spelling, syntax or presentational skills. Otherwise I would not be allowed on!

    Can I suggest that the solution is for OMG to stay as an AAer but to cut Herb some slack, and also to recognize that as Site Administrator you are only trying to ensure the site rules are adhered to.

    In return, perhaps you can do likewise and cut OMG some slack too, rather than tell him to take a hike — however politely you have phrased it.

    It would be a pity to lose OMG’s contribution to AA as he is very articulate and knowledgeable.
    As recompense, perhaps he could write a Post for us, and learn the perils and the pleasure of exposing his essay to a receptive, but sometimes hostile audience.

    Win, win, for all?

  7. faisal says:

    i started supporting arsenal since 99 and got addicted to them ever since. for me the fans should pressure the board in giving arsene more money to spend. i dont think arsene is enjoying how his legacy is being ruined from the last 7 seasons. lack of funds and lots of injuries has stopped us from trophies but i say keep the faith from a gooner in kuwait

  8. henrychan - indonesia says:

    TA.. Quite the same as me..

    My first love for Arsenal is Dennis Bergkamp..
    As I said before, I love Holland / Dutch team very much..
    And my first football team is AC Milan, with Basten, Gullit and Rijjkard.. In that time.. All Indonesian is Milan fans I guest.. hehehe..

    Then when suddenly Bergkamp be the star in Holland.. Then I also be the biggest fan of him.. Offcourse Arsenal also..
    So start from that time (can remember the exact year).. I become Gunners.. And I love Arsenal more when they do ‘the invicible / unbeatable games’
    I do love Bergkamp more than Henry.. For me Bergkamp is the real king of Arsenal.. And should be a legend more than Henry..
    Sadly..Bergkamp resign to early..

    Back to this day.. Altough 7 years gone with empty trophy.. I still believe that Wenger can do the same – Bergkamp’s team –
    and that might be this new season..
    If RvP and Song stay.. And Dempsey and Sneijder in..
    We will win the trophies..

    Go Gunners.. Love you forever..

  9. LondonGunner4Life says:

    I think people are forgetting people like Thierry Henry and Dennis Bergkamp himself who have said they would love to manage the club at some point and when they retire as managers I reckon another Arsenal legend of the future (one of the young guns now) will then take over. Hopefully we can remain in the elite.

  10. Rasp says:

    Hi RA, I agree wiith Raddy that we should not degrade today’s excellent article by harping on about yesterday’s debate, but for the record, this was my response to your comment on the end of yesterday’s debate……

    Hi RA and thanks,

    OMG/weedonald has contributed some very good comments over the last few days, he is still free to contribute to the site. As I said earlier, I’m too busy to get caught up in semantics.

    Peaches and I have literally spent the last month having to deal with bloggers who are not happy with the way we run the site (for them!) and so my patience has run thin.

    We struggle to put out a post some days and then have to fend off criticism of its content because people have not taken the trouble to understand how the site is run and what our objectives are.

    I have put a new tab at the top of the page ‘Get a Blog’, I suggest all those that don’t like the way we do things have a read and maybe they’ll find a way to satisfy their personal requirements.

  11. Red Arse says:

    TA,

    It goes without saying that I love the style and content of your Posts, and to think that English is your second language still amazes me.

    I worry on two counts tho.
    One, is that I am waiting to have a ‘barny’ with you on something we disagree about (I would enjoy that), and
    Two, your humour has a certain overlap with my own altho’ this morning’s cachet – enough is enough (un oeuf est un oeuf) is simply showing off! :-)

    You rightly laud Dennis’s brilliance and what a fantastic ‘advert’ (or recruiting sergeant) he was for the Arsenal, and throughout his career he had a fantastic symbiotic relationship with Arsene.

    If I have one slight regret about our tranfer policy, in recent years, it is that we perhaps could have done a bit more to recruit even one more player of a similar world class quality.

    Dennis has shown how that singular investment could have been repaid many times over with an increase in the fan base and the resultant heavy commercial returns.

  12. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    I’m going to buck the trend here & make a prediction that The Arsenal will win the Title in 2012/13.

    Blimey, why not. Podolski @ the sharp end with RVP. Gervinho will be better for his 1st season. Once he learns when to pull the trigger he will be gr8. Arteta, Lil’ Jacky, Oxlaide-Chamberlain, some good signings. It all looks good IMO.

    The big plus will be Steve Bould stepping in. This was the change that needed to happen :)

  13. Red Arse says:

    Thanks for that Rasper, it places your earlier comment into context.

    I, too, would have no truck with those who complain about this unique site and its ethos, or the sterling work undertaken, voluntarily and unpaid, by both Peacher and your goodself.

    Can you imagine the asperity I would show, if any such moaner came under my purview? Buckets of tears I am afraid! :-)

  14. Phill123 says:

    Why do people forget that it wa Bruce Rioch that brought in DB10

  15. mystic says:

    Simple to say that in my 48years Dennis Bergkamp was the best player I have ever seen in an Arsenal shirt. More than that, in English football. He had not only skill on the ball, but the ability to think off it and, which was quite a surprise to the Italian media, a very physical presence as well.

    Yes his fear of flying could be a major impediment to him becoming manager, but were he to return as coach what an enormous boost it would be to everyone associated with the club. Wenger / Bould / Bergkamp, a masterpeice off the pitch, creating another on it.

  16. moses gyabi chihi says:

    I think the Arsenal board of directors should think of getting Bergkamp to the youth team and we will see the humble down cultura to the youth team then the excellence will be seen on the pitch for years

  17. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Thanks TA, yes Arsene and DB10 will live on. They both epotomise 3 fundamentals. The foreign influx into the English game, the revoloution in arsenals playing style, and thirdly “Sheer Class”.

    Very clever man that Aristotle. No, i dont mean the philosopher, ime talking about my late uncle Aristotelis (correct pronuciation), who made a fortune selling Crepes to tourists in Crete. Beloved and mourned by all, especialy the Greek Tax Man. hahhahaha

  18. evonne says:

    Gnarley – top comment!
    off to read Total epic

  19. Raspers, I understand your pain and for the record I always think that I wouldn’t show any of the patience you do in administrating the site.
    What has to be remembered is that this blog is not a public service website, it’s privately run by Gooners giving up their free time for no compensation.

    Erudite post as ever TotalA, I doff my sombrero.

  20. udehsam says:

    its unthinkable to imagine Arsenal without Arsene Wenger..maybe he would pick his successor.

  21. LB says:

    GG9

    10.34 comment……………………your the man.

  22. henrychan - indonesia says:

    OOT..

    If Wenger really goes for Ukraina- Andriy Yarmolenko and Yevhen Konoplyanka.. Than he must do it now..
    Cause after Euro 2012.. They both will be expensive stars already..
    I will happy enough not to have Sneijder if we can bring this Yarmolenko or Konoplyanka in.. Both will be much better..

    Go Gunners..

  23. Rasp says:

    Hi Phil123,

    It is widely believed that Bergkamp’s arrival was mostly the work of David Dein and that Dein had already identified Arsene Wenger as the next manager and was in contact with him over signings – but this may just be urban myth.

  24. TotalArsenal says:

    Morning all,

    Herb, please keep coming back on AA :)

    Rasp, many thanks for adding that picture in – it goes very well with the story :) I love the ‘get a blog’ tab – if you don’t like it: GET A BLOG! hahaha :)

    Micky, It is a scary thought indeed – it is not just about getting a manager who can keep us at the top and win things, but also about preserving the culture/football philosophy that Wenger build up during his era.

    A-Steve, thanks for your comment. This post gives you a chance to say what should happen if and when Wenger leaves us and around whom Arsene should build his team coming season.

    RA@10.08 a very well balanced and sensible comment.

    Who would you have liked Arsenal to sign in the category of Dennis Bergkamp(ish), in the last few years?

    Henrychan, if you keep mentioning that Sneijder should join us, it might actually happen!

    LondonG4L, thanks for answering the question. Henry and Bergkamp have the big advantage that they know the club and the football philosophy well, are well-loved by the fans, and are passionate about Arsenal.The big question is, will they have what it takes to manage at top level?

    Phil123 – who forgot it?

    Mystic: Wenger, Bould, Bergkamp as in ‘sex and drugs and rock & roll’ sounds great. :)

  25. Rasp says:

    Morning TA, I’m sorry the initial reaction to your article was clouded by yesterday’s issues.

    Its a great piece, I share all your emotional attachments to DB – and how fitting that a fellow countrman should write the piece.

    I can’t imagine any other player would have fulfilled Arsène Wenger’s requirements in a player as completely as Bergie – the two were made for each other.

  26. LB says:

    I second that Rasp

    The signing of Bergkamp strikes me more as the work of David Dein than Rioch.

    Rioch arrived under the shadow of the George Graham bung scandal. It seems fairly obvious that the board wanted to avoid a reoccurrence. So the Arsenal manager’s role changed to being one of solely identifying transfer targets and Dein’s role was to negotiate and land them.

    By the way, just to bring some balence to this comment, I firmly believe that if Abromivich had been at Chelsea at that time then Bergkamp would have been a chav.

  27. evonne says:

    TA – you think you are clever cloggs, don’t you?! Well, you are clever, I give you that. Top post, reads like a poem

    You forgot to mention that although DB’s salary was trivial compare to the greatest players of today, he became the richest footballer in EPL. He was/is Mr Perfect – clever, good looking, top professional, successful, filthy rich AND MODEST. What a guy? No, there was and won’t be another Dennis Bergkamp, not in our lifetime.

  28. henrychan - indonesia says:

    TA.. hehehe.. hope so..
    Better for Sneijder to play in Arsenal than Inter..
    And let’s look closely in Euro.. how WS and RvP can play a good teamwork..

  29. evonne says:

    Oh, your question about AW’s leaving. Scares the pants off me, gives me nightmares.

    But you know what would happen? Those who want Wenger out, will criticise the next manager too. It has nothing to do with the reality, but with the state of their mind. If Wenger is not good enough for us, then nobody could be.

    And to actually suggest that we missed out on appointing Fergie is shocking. The aggressive, bullish, dishonest horrid little man leading our Club?? So some of the fans would rather compromise the Class of our Club for Fergie’s trophies?

    Thank God the Board did not appoint him.

  30. Rasp says:

    Hi LB, yes and I agree with your last para.

    It cannot be denied that chelski and city have proved (if ever there was any doubt) that if you have enough money, eventually you will buy success and that the other less wealthy clubs (including Arsenal) will do brilliantly to compete on a fraction of their resources – and we have!

  31. evonne says:

    Happy Birthday GM xxx

  32. ak47 says:

    enjoyed that thanx. cant believe you’ve got me considering sneijder now. what a buy that would be.

  33. LB says:

    “Those who want Wenger out, will criticise the next manager too. It has nothing to do with the reality, but with the state of their mind.”(Evonne)

    Pure genius………………no more ever needs to be said.

  34. arsenal-steve says:

    Sorry, but this is not a true discussion site. Critique of the club is not welcomed, yet good critique is the healthy way.. Are you funded by AFC?. Good critique is what keeps the world healthy but there are too many who parrot the prevailing Board views. Some of you are funny and I appreciate your sense of humour, but many of you are a clique and have become ‘Yes’ men. Bye.

  35. evonne says:

    LB – ta very much.

  36. LB says:

    So who has been stopping you critiquing the club on this site Steve? You make it sound like your comments have been removed — I am sure they haven’t. Could it be that you just don’t have any valid criticisms and are trying to blame others for that?

  37. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    arsenal – steve, dont be like that mate. Like you say its a discussion board. I dont take it that seriously and some people dont like my posts and probably wish i would vanish but at the moment i still post. Ive had my run in with the mods, but when it comes to football they dont tow a line, they welcome debate from every perspective. So what i am saying, is keep posting, and then i can enjoy disagreeing with you. hahahaha

  38. Big Raddy says:

    The only player in the PL who is fit to lace DB10’s boots is David Silva at MC.

    Or ….. if AW allowed him to pay the DB role, our very own RvP. I think he would be a superb behind the frontman striker

  39. Big Raddy says:

    Steve. We can spend the whole summer discussing pro/anti AW. and the current state of the club. No doubt we will return to that subject but TA spent a long time writing about DB10 – surely you have an opinion about the above post?

  40. Rasp says:

    arsenal-steve, we work hard to ensure that this IS a discussion site. Every word you have written has been published, there is no censorship on the grounds of opinion.

    It may be true that you have not received much support for your views, but that comes with the territory. If you are in any doubt about our reason for existence, please read ‘About AA’ at the top of the page.

  41. Red Arse says:

    arsenal-steve,

    So the whole of yesterday’s invigorating cut and thrust was the work of a gang of ‘yes men’?

  42. Dannyboy says:

    Steve, why if this blog doesnt allow you to critise Arsenal,why don’t you start your own Blog site i m sure you will have more hits from your mates.

    Good post TA.The thought of Wenger retiring gives me shivers everywhere.Will only be appriciated by his critics once he leaves Arsenal. In the meantime Liverpool owners have appointed Bredan Rodgers to transform the football into Barcelona-lite. Good luck Rodgers with the crabs at Anfield.

  43. evonne says:

    RA – correct me if I am wrong:

    Definition – A hobby is a regular activity or interest that is undertaken FOR PLEASURE, typically done during one’s leisure time.

    Yes, I can tick the box. Everything about The Arsenal gives me immense pleasure

  44. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi Rasp, you know I have written quite a few post for AA, but this is my first one ever on Bergkamp. The recent comments on what supporters love about the modern day Arsenal, have made me realise how strong the football spirit of Bergkamp still lives on at Arsenal, and how important it is to find a replacement of him and Fabregas on the pitch for next season. Wenger will want to sort this out this summer, I am pretty sure.

    Hi Evonne, thanks and good to see you in good form again. It must have been the good weather recently. Bergkamp might by very rich, but I bet he hardly spends any of it, for example I would not be surprised if he drives a sensible Volvo V70 or Audi A6…

    Hi Henryc, AK47 – Sneijder would fit perfectly in our 4-2-3-1 formation. He can shoot from distance, thinks and acts very quickly, has a good overview of what needs to happen, and would look good in red and white. If he was not so expensive, salary-wise, it would be a very decent option.

    Hi Raddy, I like Silva very much, and I am sure 10 years ago Arsene would have tried to land him, but as others have pointed out, we are fourth or fifth in the queue nowadays.

    RvP in the hole, sounds very good. The only worry I have is that he would get injured a lot quicker compared to where he now plays.

    Hi Dannyboy, Liverpool have taken a risk with Rodgers but it looks they are now building towards the future. If they get Van Gaal as TD then watch that space. It looks like Wenger’s example is being followed more and more now: build a football club around a certain style of (total)football, be able to find good players within a reasonable budget, become sustainable, etc, etc. It seems to be the only answer against the severely obese and vain Sugar Daddies.

  45. arsenal-steve says:

    I’m off. Good luck with your blog. It’s too much of a one party site for me and I do recommend you take a closer look at it’s dynamics. The mix is mainly people just boosting each other up, rather than truly debating and who do not actually discuss the clubs deficiencies/issues. Look at the meaning of the word clique. It is not generally regarded as a positive thing.

  46. evonne says:

    TA – really, a Volvo? Nay, cannot believe that. Why did you say that? Is being careful with money a Dutch trait? I wish I was Dutch

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  48. Big Raddy says:

    GM. Happy Birthday

  49. Dannyboy says:

    Steve thanks for passing through.Safe journey wherever you are heading to! Lg

  50. Big Raddy says:

    Goodbye steve. May your God go with you …….

  51. TotalArsenal says:

    Arsenal-Steve, please look at the bottom of the post and you will see I posted a number of questions, including one regarding the ‘deficiency’ of not having a replacement ready for Fabregas. The post also gives you an opportunity to tell us what you think needs to happen if Wenger leaves, say in 12 months. This gives you a chance to sum up what you do not like about him and his style of football, and which changes you would like the BoD to make.

    If you put some thought into your answers then you will get a lot of respect here, and you will also find fellow AA’ers who agree with you.

  52. TotalArsenal says:

    Evonne, the Dutch love their Volvos and Saabs (among other sensible cars). A famous Dutch writer once was asked whether he was happy. His answer was: I have three wonderful children, a lovely wife and Volvo station car – yes, I am happy. :)

    In the last ten years I have driven Saab and Volvo, and I must say I felt contended. :)

  53. TotalArsenal says:

    Happy birthday GM! :)

    You share yours with Brooke Shields, Clint Eastwood and Colin Farrell.

  54. arsenal-steve says:

    In a nutshell see what your site is about

    “Big Raddy says:

    May 31, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Goodbye steve. May your God go with you”

    Actually I am a Buddhist. i care about people, honesty and compassion.
    Like I said this is a Clique. I’m sure you will defend yourself against that. I hope the “Arsenal Arsenal” blogmeisters will take an honest look at the dynamics.

    “Great compassion goes to the marrow of the bones” –Nagarjuna

  55. Ah, TotalA, a fellow Saab enthusiast.

    I’ve owned about a dozen or so in my driving time and after years of planning finally made my pilgrimage to Trolhattan just before the nasty GM closed down my favourite marque.

    From Wallander to Nokia to the fjords and their cars I’ve always loved things scandinavian. If I had the time I’d learn svenska but alas, I’m a lazy git. :)

  56. evonne says:

    GM and Colin Farrell?! Yeah, makes sense, I love both :)
    TA – hm, ok, some like sensible cars :)

    Sol Campbell has been voted ‘Enemy No 1′ in Poland.

  57. TotalArsenal says:

    A-steve, nice quote. If you cannot find compassion on AA, you won’t find it on any other blog.

    ‘the unexamined life is not worth living’ Socrates. Why don’t you face up to the challenge (see my comment @1.11)?

  58. Rasp says:

    a-steve,

    As a Buddhist, I would have expected you to understand the need for patience and understanding when entering into a new sphere.

    Every blogger you refer to as being in a ‘clique’ started off by placing a few comments as you have. In time we get to know their style and standpoint and when discussions move away from football (as is often the case) we may learn more about them and discover common ground – in that way, friendshiips grow.

    I make no apology for this as I have gained many new friends through the site and I expect to make many more in the future. You cannot expect to come on and be embraced in all you say by people who know very little about you and who may not be in agreement with what you say. I can assure you that I disagree frequently with bloggers on here who I consider to be good friends. It’s not about whether we agree with your opinion, its about what kind of person and what kind of supporter you are.

  59. TotalArsenal says:

    Evonne, GM reminds me more of a Clint Eastwood character :)

  60. TotalArsenal says:

    Chary, you forgot to include ABBA’s Agnetha :)

    Everytime I see an older version of a SAAB 93 I go crazy. It is something about the shape, it is the car I have drawn more than a thousands times, ever since I was a wee boy.

  61. henrychan - indonesia says:

    @steve: Buddha said that “Passion is the best practice.. (Kshanti paramang tapo tithika)”.
    Don’t you think that we must overcome anger.. overcome what is not suited to us.. Something that made us unhappy and so on.. hehehe..

    @TA : I hope Sneijder would not ask for a highly wages.. 100k/weeks will be nice and still affordable..

  62. henrychan - indonesia says:

    sorry not passion but patience..

  63. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Happy birthday GM, and yes you do look a bit like a western character. I was thinking ‘Lee Van Cleef’.

    On the subject of Arsene Wengers spirit living on, lets all hope that its a legacy akin to Chapman or Shankly. Both great men who departed the scene leaving there succesor to claim more trophies than them. The fortunate beneficiries were Tom Whittaker and Bob Paisley.

    Great managers leave an envoirement for the incumbent to succeed and Arsene Wenger has often stated that this is what he wishes his legacy to be. I would ask the people who posted yesterday that berated Mr Wenger to remember this. We have a guy at the helm that is a true Arsenal man. He is selfless, putting the interests of the Club before his own. This is also a credit to the club and indicates harmony and ambition. So i say look beyond today and look at tomorrow, and then ask yourselves wether Arsene is the right man for the job and the Club lacks ambition?

  64. You mean old shape 900 surely TotalA ? That tear drop shape is so iconic and even the old 9000, my first ever Saab, has a certain appeal despite it’s Fiat influences.

    Ah Agnetha, sigh……

  65. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Chary, do you want an ABBA song ? hahaha

  66. I watch Abba videos with the sound off Mr Syrup; I know, Peachy’s mum wouldn’t approve haha.

  67. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Chary, yeah i thought you might. I had to google that geezer you mentoned yesterday and saw he was some heavy metal bloke in that crazy band Black Sabbath. Think i will stick to Barry Manilow. hahaha

  68. Hi all, I’ve just noticed that we haven’t got a post for tomorrow or the next few days, so if anyone’s got something they want to say (new bloggers included) please send it through to arsenalnuts – see contact us at the top of the page

  69. Aside from TotalA and possibly Raspers, no one ever knows who I witter on about music wise Mr Syrup.

    Ronnie Dio, R.I.P was mainly known for Rainbow (no, not the one with Zippy and Bungle!) and his own band after leaving the Sabbs.

    He’s supposed to be the originator of the Devils horn’s sign used by metallers world wide \../

  70. herbsarmy says:

    Hi Total,
    quality post about a quality footballer.
    I really thought I’d said my summer farewell’s this morning, only to find people being insulting.
    If you at 11:42 felt this way, then you should have had the bravery and decency to mention it yesterday, where it belongs. Why do you feel the need to use another person’s blog to hurl your abuse? And since you are so opinionated, why don’t you put the time and effort in to write a Post, instead of hanging on the coat-tail of others?
    How do you know what the perception will be of whoever eventually replaces AW? Are you psychic? Most supporters want a successful manager at their club, and just because you and a few other’s have a different view on what success is than me, it doesn’t give you the right to castigate. I admit I’m quite negative sometimes, but at least I don’t hide behind other people.
    If and when we aquire a new manager he proves to be successful, nobody in their right mind would want them to leave, so keep your poisonous insults between you and your mate LB.
    Sorry everybody, please enjoy today’s excellent offering from Total Arsenal, and again, have a great summer.

  71. TotalArsenal says:

    Cheers Herb! Have a great summer and please keep posting regularly.

    Chary, I had a few albums of Dio, but it so long ago I don’t remember much of it. Your devils horns signs looks a bit like a Fergie’s nose :lol:

    Yes, I meant 900, although I also liked the first generation of the 9-3.

  72. TotalA – his best were Holy Diver & The last in Line.
    I should have doen the devils horns in ree/purple to look more like SAF’s purple conk. :)
    There was a bit of a twitter flutter yesterday suggesting RvP had signed on, nothing more since.

  73. LB says:

    We should have a poll on what mental age someone should need to reach before they realise that everyone gets everything right with hindsight.

    A……5 years old?

    B……6 years old?

    C…..7 years old?

  74. goonerjake says:

    Hey just caught up been busy paying a parking fine, phoned up to protest because i did have a valid parking ticket, however they said it was inproperly displayed and they would not overturn the decision even if i sent the ticket in and the call for reason was not heard – thankyou bassetlaw district councel.

    Anyway i digress just read some of steve’s comments – dismayed to hear someone has left what i consider a really good site, I personally do not think this is a pro wenger or anti wenger site, its totally neutral.

    But im sure if steve comes back for any length of time he will get the fight he wants. :)

    goonerjake

    personally though i like camaraderie and good natured banter and discussion rather than using a forum such as this to abuse other views.

  75. TotalArsenal says:

    Chary, I don’t know what to think anymore re RvP. I thought it would be settled by now, but it looks like it’s going to another drawn-out saga! :(

    The Dutch national team tend to stick to the shirt numbers 1 to 11 when selecting their best possible team, and RvP has been handed nr 16, whilst his strongest competitor, Huntelaar, has been give nr 9 this week. I hope it does not mean he is not first choice for Holland.

    What’s your view on Jaaskelainen as back up keeper for Arsenal? (He wants to leave Bolton apparently).

  76. evonne says:

    There were people calling you the worst possible names yesterday. You swallowed it without any problems. So why do you always get so obsessed with me? Because I am a foreigner? Or a woman?

    You are always banging on about one’s right to an opinion? What did you call me for having an opinion? Ignorant Eastern European. So much for your preachings.

    Look, I am not going to pretend – your negativity and obsessions are disturbing, make my stomach turn. I feel sorry for you. A genuine pity, poor poor Herb.

    By the way – how could you possibly be an Arsenal’s supporter for longer than your age? Calling me psychic?

  77. In Wenger We Rust says:

    The problem is players want to win trophies but at Arsenal there is no ambition to achieve this. Looks like Podolski’s been brought in to replace RVP. Well Wenger did say he didn’t want to face again what happened last summer. Sounds like another horror movie.

  78. Rasp says:

    Hi goonerjake, we’ve had 3 different steves on the site in the last couple of days – I’m losing track of which is which.

    He made some good points but wasn’t happy with the responses and that is what blogging can be like. I hope he returns and realises that we have no underlying agenda.

  79. evonne says:

    In Wenger We Rust – you know what’s coming? Why oh why, oh why?
    Go on, humour me – who has no ambition?

    How do you know Podolski is to replace RvP?

  80. TotalArsenal says:

    Never undervalue the sight of a good hind :)

  81. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Evonne, i still love you. xxx

  82. evonne says:

    Terry – ditto :) When is your birthday Terry? Last time H attacked me on Peaches’ birthday, today is MG’s. Always my favourite people. I hope that GiE’s and TAs birthdays have already been this year

    I kept my birthday a secret just in case :)

  83. evonne says:

    Herb – I know you are writting a long character assasination of mine as we speak. Don’t. You cannot upset me anymore :) xx

  84. goonerjake says:

    Rasp

    I hope he returns to… I do have the opinion that when some one puts something i dont like i reason “well thanks for your comment, your entittled to it however i dont neccessarily agree”

    I also think if someone makes comments you dont like/agree with you should then respectfully put your comment forward.

    Never should fans turn on one another unless ones views contraviene racial/social ethics. if you understand me.

  85. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Evonne, December 30th, same day as the great Charlie Nicholas. hehehe

  86. In Wenger We Rust says:

    It’s all about the profits Evonne. Next year it will be Jack. Until Wenger and Stan go we will continue to be a selling club. Anyone who can charge £50 (Silver membership) for the privilage to buy tickets should be hung. Three years ago it was £19 and when you purchased a ticket you had a discount of £1 so if you went to 19 home games it would be free. We used to have class now we have nothing.

  87. evonne says:

    In Wenger We Rust – come on, of course it’s about profits. AFC is a business enterprise and as such has an objective to generate profits. Rangers conveniently forgot about that point and look what happened to them? Would you like us to find ourselves in such predicament? I think not

  88. TotalArsenal says:

    Somehow think Arsene isn’t that rusty yet…

    http://fuldans.se/?v=tpoljgeecn

  89. evonne says:

    Terry – 30th December? that’s bad luck! I bet you get only one present for Xmas and birthday

  90. In Wenger We Trust says:

    Well I want to support a Football with the main objective to win trophies not to make profits at the expense of trying to win the title

  91. TERRY MANCINI HAIR TRANSPLANT says:

    Spot on evonne. As a kid bad day to celebrate too, been one day before New Years Eve. I love it now though, go to a nice restaraunt and we are the only people in there so service is very good. hahaha

  92. evonne says:

    In Wenger we Rust – how about supporting Shitty then? They don’t have to worry about a couple of billions either way :)

    I didn’t say that generating profits was the main objective. But it helps to buy new players, improve chances of winning and wihtout winning the profits shrink. So if they want to make profits, they have to be winning. Eventually :)

    Terry – glad you found the silver lining :) I am still looking, just a boring mid April, making me 1 year older but not wiser

  93. In Wenger We Rust says:

    Never win anything selling our best players and buying in cheap as we have done for the past seven years, its like a never ending story

  94. evonne says:

    Don’t know where to start. The only ‘best player’ that was sold was Cesc. And he wanted to go to his roots

    You reminded me of my friend’s granddad, who was a Shitty supporter all his life. He witnessed more than 40 years without a trophy. Sadly he died about 3 years ago and his ashes were scattered at the grounds. Rocky probably believes that the old boy did witness this year’s celebrations :) I doubt it, but I do not doubt that he loved his club till the day he died, trophies or no trophies

  95. OMG Aesenal says:

    Who will become Wenger’s conductor in charge?…….There is Arteta, whose absence proved his worth and domination of the game. There is Podolski who is a born leader and as versatile as any of our strikers. I saw him play in Germany for 2 full seasons and, in a very poor team,(think Wolves but worse) he led from start to finish, ended up with 15 goals and stayed loyal to them despite some head turning offers. There are Wilshere and Song, both of whom can be relied on (when fit) to be game moulders. Maybe Szcesny will start to pressure his players like Jens did.

    What do you think Arsenal should do once Arsène’s hangs up his boots? – I think there are only one or two potential managers who can continue his legacy (which is too valuable to abolish). The first and best name that comes to mind is Borussia Dortmund’s manager: Juergen Klopp. His style of play and vision resembles Wenger’s to a tee and he has the same philosophy regarding frugal transfer targets and turning diamonds in the rough into top class players (Kagawa,Goetze etc.).
    The second ¨candidate¨ would be Thierry Henry. TH10 would fit like a glove into the management structure and his very presence still uplifts players at AFC. He is also French so the language transition wouldn’t be significant. Who could better represent our total football philosophy than him (except maybe Johan Kruyff?)

  96. evonne says:

    OMG – no, TH14 would not make a good manager. As much as I love him, I don’t think he was a good captain. The head shaking and face pulling was not a pretty sight. DB yes, TH no.

    Juergen Klopp – I have no idea, never watch Bundeliga. But I would be interested to read what others know of him
    Shall we appoint him or not :)

  97. Red Arse says:

    OMG/Wee, :-)

    Have you settled on O Mi God?

    Good that you have decided to continue posting on AA.

    I agree that Jurgen Klopp seems a very likely candidate for the next Arsenal manager, say in 5 years time, but much tho’ I love Thierry it would surely be too much to expect a managerial novice to come straight in as a top club manager.

    A propos of nothing really, great players rarely make great managers.

    Being cynical for a moment, it seems that ‘great’ money produces ‘great’ trophy results — who needs a ‘great’ manager? See — Real Madrid (SLL), Chelsea (CL); Manure (CL), Shitty (PL) etc, etc

    Herb, that was a staunch effort yesterday. You had some bloggers agreeing with at least part of your Post, and many who, like me, disagreed with much of it, but regardless of that, the fact is that you should be given credit for having the courage to put your stuff up there in a Post. Well done! :-)

    Promise me that your next Post will eke out a cunningly constructed upbeat theme, because there are some flashes of optimism that occasionally surface in your general comments.
    Now that would be a radical departure!! :-)

  98. glic says:

    I thought this was a football site, whats all this religeous stuff, talking about Gods ?.
    You are a wiseman Total, from now on you will be known to me as, ” Aristotal”. :)
    Who will orchestrate our midfield ?, probably our new ” Super Quality ” summer signing !.
    Who will eventually take over from Arsene ?.
    My choice ?, easy,…….. Herb ! and his Trusty Trannie sidekick Marry Banilow ( who happens to have an uncanny resemblance to our Terry ), In Herb We Trust ! . :)

  99. glic says:

    Happy Birthday Scisssor hands !. :)

  100. TotalA – @4.12pm, I think Jussi is made to look better by keeping for a defense minded team that being said he generally has a great game against us and I’d probably be ok about it if he was our 2nd choice ahead of Flappy, who seems to be angling for an exit anyway.

  101. Rasp says:

    Evening OMG, I have just read your comment on the tail end of yesterday’s post offering to write an article for AA – yes please, we would be delighted to publish something by you, just email it to arsenalnuts@live.co.uk

    I can add pictures/polls, anything you want.

  102. SharkeySure'sGhost says:

    Aris-Total….I like !!!!

    Frankly thats almost as good as todays post.

    Bergkamp made a pass to Vieira that was absolutely mesmerising. Chas has posted it up before (Chelsea away). Its a pass which singularly, is almost equal to some of his great hat-tricks.

    To receive and control a ball under pressure, and then to deliver a ball so sweetly that it seems to curl around the back of Vieira and then slowdown right in front of him was sheer brilliance of the absolute highest order.

    I can honestly watch that pass up to 20 times in a row. It demonstrates an understanding of geometry and angles (one and the same?) that would make Pythagoras jealous. The weight of the pass reflects an inhuman speed of calculation with regards to distance, speed and time.

    I honestly do think it would take a supercomputer to replicate that pass (virtually?) in the speed that Dennis’ mind and boot conceived and then executed it.

    Don’t even start me on the goal at St James park. I honestly couldn’t work out what had really just happened until the 5th or 6th replay.

    Then to sign annual contracts year after year …in a foreign land !!!

    LEGEND !!

  103. SharkeySure'sGhost says:

    Shard – straight to the hall of fame. Belated congrats on your absolute legend of a post yesterday.

    If AA is stuck for a post for tomorrow..get Shards permission and stick a title on it, throw in a B&w photo and bob’s yer uncle.

  104. SharkeySure'sGhost says:

    Birthday greetings from me too Mr Scissorhands.

    Love your work on here….

  105. chas says:

    Great post, TA.
    Does arsenal-steve really not believe in Dennis?

  106. chas says:

    Happy Birthday GM.

  107. 26may1989 says:

    I worry at how much I love DB, it can’t be right.

    But watching his role in that Vieira goal portfolio, it almost brings tears to my eyes. Or maybe that was that third glass of Sancere….

    Tip to any fraudster wanting to hack anything of mine: start with variants on Dennis Bergkamp, shouldn’t take you too long to crack my passwords.

    I honestly don’t know why some of our number use the Bergkamp-Pires-Vieira-Henry axis as something with which to beat up the current Arsenal side. Ignoring all the issues this generation has had to deal with that their trophy-laden forebears didn’t, we should just revel in the fact that we really did get to see the best footballing side in England for, christ, longer than I know, certainly the best I’ve seen in my 35 years of fandom. A very, very special team.

    NIce post TA. As ever. Oh sorry, is that too cliquey? Bugger that, good is good, and if I like something I’m not going to be a misery guts about saying so.

    And I like the fact that Kelsey, Peaches and Rasp created something here that, as well as providing an online place to meet, has led to some lovely meetings before matches. Perhaps the regulars here do get a bit cosy here sometimes, but isn’t that what happens with friendships?

    Brussels is still glum, and I haven’t been able to go out for those moules frites yet, too much work…..

  108. 26may1989 says:

    I’m not going to say happy birthday to GM. Why should I, he gets to touch Keira Knightley? Bastard.
    :)

  109. TotalArsenal says:

    OMG Ae – thanks for reading the post with care and answering the questions. :)

    Re the conductor role: all the players you mention have potential to become pivotal players for Arsenal, but I don’t think that, other than Jack, any of them are Dennis/Cesc-like conductor-potential. Good to see you enthusiastic about Podolski. I am really looking fwd to seeing him play for us next season.

  110. TotalArsenal says:

    Chas, Sharkey, 26, that video is pure poetry. If you have ever played billiards, from snooker to libre, you will know how hard it is to combine power with subtlety, with geometry, with timing. For DB to do all this with a ball between moving objects in flashes of a second is near-godly – heavenly: simply of the highest human order.

    Give me that sort of beauty any time above park the bus cup victories.

  111. 26may1989 says:

    For you TA, it’s a bit different, you grew up in the Netherlands, Europe’s true home of the beautiful game. But for us Sout Piels (how’s your Akrikaans?), especially Arsenal fans, Dennis represents something from the beyond, art on the pitch, and what’s more, winning art.

    I might slag Dein off from time to time, but getting Dennis into the red-and-white is another one we have to thanks David Dein for. The day DB and Arsenal found each other, that was the real day that our club changed. Wenger just took us to another level.

  112. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi 26,

    Have you been to the Musee d’art moderne in Brussels yet? If not, and you have an hour or so to spare, I recommend it. Other than than the glumness can be taken away with a couple of glasses of Hoegaarden or Kriek.. :)

    I was too young to really get the best out of the Cruijff years and Holland suffered a lot between 78-88, both on club level and nationally. The Dutch did not qualify for two world cup competitions. So, the arrival of the likes of Van Basten, Rijkaard, Gullit, Koeman, and a bit later Bergkamp, and Davids, Seedorf, Kluivert, felt like a total new beginning for beautiful football to me.

    Of all those players it was easiest to associate myself with Dennis.

    Wenger took it to another level, and he was also a big factor in DB becoming the Footballer in Full we all now know and love so well.

  113. goonermichael says:

    Thank you for the Happy Birthdays. I’m off to read the post :)

  114. Gooner In Exile says:

    Evening all, TA another top article.

    I loved DB as a player too, unfortunately he can never be our manager (the no flying thing would be an issue for CL). And like others I am also led by the great players = poor manager bias. Altho Brian Clough is probably the exception, and even our own GG altho being a great footballer is up for debate.

    But it wasn’t just on the pitch that Dennis changed our club, it was off it, of you listen to Merse and Dixon they tell stories of how if DB10 smelled the whiff of a night out on a player he embarrassed them in training chasing them down and punishing them for the previous days alcohol intake. Wenger came along after and instilled this further and managed to change the culture of English football off the pitch. (along with other foreign players imported to the league).

    One thing I meant to say yesterday was that the likes of Ljungberg, Gilberto etc were not exactly stars when they joined the club, in the early days of Wengers reign an Arsenal signing would be announced and I’m sure I and many others would do a Scooby Doo impression….eventually when coupled with the the team around them and most impirtantly DB10 they became thought of as world class players.

  115. Gooner In Exile says:

    HAppy Bday GM

  116. TotalArsenal says:

    Hi GiE, DB would only have to reorganise 7 flights a season, in order to make into the CL final. Train links have improved vastly and as long as he does not have to travel to Russia or Greece, he should be ok….

  117. TotalArsenal says:

    Night all, and bon nuit / goede nacht to 26.

  118. goonermichael says:

    Thanks GIE
    I just read the post and all the comments and I’ve forgotten waht it was about. I know it was DB10 but what was the question again. I’ve only had a few whiskies

  119. 26may1989 says:

    Exile: sure we can have the Non-flying Dutchman as our manager – we just need to do a Mr T on him…. Watchyoo talkin bout fool? Not convinced? Just think, Arsene as Hannibal, RvP as The Face and TV as Mad Murdoch. Perfect!

    Bon nuit TA – sorry, can’t do nederlands, or whatever the Flems speak….

  120. goonermichael says:

    Read the title again :)

    Yes it will live on just as the spirit of Chapman lives on. It’s part of our folklore. Even if Wenger doesn’t win another trophy he will be remembered as the man who won 2 doubles and went a season unbeaten. As the only manager to beat rednose without outspending him. As the manager who kept us in the CL after the move. The people who throw abuse at him will be forgotton.

    Re DB10 I don’t think cesc is fit to lace his boots

    I agree with someone earlier who said That Jack will become the conductor (although I think he’s a twat and will piss off for money, hope I’m wrong)

    I think Bould is possibly going to be the new manager.

    I love evonne :)

  121. Gooner In Exile says:

    GM I think you could be right about Bouldy and I think Banfield has been taken up with him to be Bouldys Pat Rice when he is.

    I also hope you’re wrong on Jack.

    To be honest the youngsters coming thru the club are making the right noises about wanting to win things for the club, they grew up at the club watching TH14 and friends do it. A big difference from the likes of Nasri who only ever saw it as a stepping stone I’m glad we haven’t had to accept the same from Hazard. I don’t think we could ever have had a player called Hazard anyway.

    26 I think DB10s fear of flying is not actually a fear if that makes sense, as otherwise we surely would have done a MrT on him ages ago?

    From wiki:

    “stemmed from an incident with the Netherlands national team at the 1994 World Cup, where the engine of the plane cut out during a flight,[103] prompting a journalist to joke about having a bomb in his bag.[104] Following this incident, Bergkamp decided he would never fly again”

    So it’s just his choice not to fly sedated or otherwise.

  122. goonermichael says:

    He also never took a penalty after he missed the one against the mancs. So once he makes his mind up he doesn’t change

  123. 26may1989 says:

    Exile, I knew there had been an incident for DB, but that’s not exactly Munich 58 is it? A joke?? Come on, you great big Dutchie genius, get a grip!

    It’s just occurred to me, there’s always one way of discouraging players getting on the Anzhi gravy train: tell them all about Russian internal flights. Not a happy safety record that one, and the Anzhi players all live and train in Moscow, flying the 2000km to the “home” stadium and then often flying to places like Grozny and Krasnodar as well. So all we need to do is get the crash records out, hey presto, loyal players. (OK, I know they get private jets, but that’s not as much fun.)

  124. oz gunner says:

    @ TA

    brilliant as always. All this talk of religion has left me confused…Dennis is the only god i know! He was a once in a life time player. By any chance does he has triplet boys? because who wouldn’t want to see:

    AM: Bergkamp
    LF: Bergkamp
    RF: Bergkamp

    In terms of jussi: i think he is getting on now. Replaced at bolton an prone to the odd error.

    In terms of Klopp…yes please. But not until Wenger retires at the ripe old age of 110. Then when Rooney Jnr (playing at Man United) runs past him on the touch line he can clobber him one with his cane! “Fous le camp Rooney junior, vous êtes mauvais était un bâtard!”

    @ Evonne

    you have big cojones. I like that when you get called out you don’t take a back step

    @ GLIC + GM

    hope you both had a great birthday

    @ Steve

    you won’t find a greater site on the internet, yesterday further proved this. Busy people come on here day after day spending hours reading posts and comments..says it all really!

  125. oz gunner says:

    M’Vila could be out of the Euros due to a ankle knock. Good then he can concentrate on signing for Arsenal!

  126. Gooner In Exile says:

    Oz surely he will just be another injury ravaged gamble! :)

    26 After my last flight I can understand Gods decision, but my reason is just being in a confined space with three kids on the row in front of me treating the cabin like a climbing frame, their mother was there at the start of the flight and once up in the air she swanned off to join her hubby at the back and left us with the 2 kids already there and the 3rd who was sat with her hubby at take off. Altho after my painful few hours I took great delight when child 1 decided to lift the strap out of the retractable customs security queuing system and watched it fly backwards and clip both child 2 and 3 on the head, oh the tears and howling that ensued. :D

  127. 26may1989 says:

    You’re a bad bad man Exile. Very bad…!

    Re Russian internal flights, I think one of the better ice hockey teams got wiped out in a crash last year. And here’s me, probably off to the Urals in a couple of months. It’s been nice knowing you.

  128. 26may1989 says:

    Hey Oz, if you’re still there, how did giving evidence in that trial go?

  129. GunnerN5 says:

    This is interesting report on injuries and the resulting lost time.
    From Teamtalk.com

    ……………………………………………………………………..

    Significant injuries and total days lost to injury:

    Manchester United – 39 (signicant injuries) & 1681 (days lost)

    Tottenham Hotspur – 36 & 1450

    Arsenal – 28 & 1343

    Newcastle – 27 & 1258

    Fulham – 33 & 1245

    Queens Park Rangers – 19 & 1105

    Bolton – 15 & 1054

    Norwich – 14 & 968

    Sunderland – 22 & 956

    West Bromwich Albion – 24 & 868

    Aston Villa – 21 & 806

    Blackburn Rovers -20 & 801

    Liverpool – 15 & 794

    Swansea – 12 & 759

    Everton – 21 & 716

    Wolverhampton Wanderers – 18 & 690

    Stoke City – 14 & 557

    Wigan Athletic – 11 & 474

    Chelsea – 13 & 356

    Manchester City – 7 & 186

  130. OMG Aesenal says:

    In Wenger we rust….you are rusting not because of Wenger but because you have a British spine made of sturdy British steel….the same they used on the Titanic! It is also the same that has brought Britain such Footballing glory since 1966! ‘Arry at the Tiny Totts has the same British spine and he has sunk more clubs than a submariner has ships.
    I know you need to try and destroy our Gooners’ sense of the future by negating anything good from the past or present but this is a form of mental instability that comes from having severe Occulitis. This disease, now rampant among AAA and Anti-Wenger whiners, and seen occasionally on this site, is actually a curable condition where the optical nerve gets crossed with the rectal nerve and you get a crappy outlook on life.
    Do you need directions to LeGrove’s website where your soul-mates fester in their rancour and Football Fantasy Manager superiority ? Just follow the malodorous wisps of bile and spite…

  131. MickyDidIt89 says:

    GN5,
    Very interesting statistics there. Wow.
    As I mentioned the other day, sure we had injuries, but we the reality is that we were unbelievably lucky.
    Had we lost Robin for a six week period, there’s no chance we would be CL. Make that wo weeks!!!

  132. chas says:

    OMGA,
    ‘crappy outlook’ condition :)
    Also, malodorous is a fine word to start a Friday.

    Really pleased you didn’t sling your hook.
    OOOps, far too cliquey a thing to say.

  133. chas says:

    I love posting that ‘Vieira’ video.
    If you haven’t seen it for a while it’s as if you’re seeing its beauty for the first time.
    As you say, ArisTotal, pure poetry.

  134. Morning all

    Not too late to wish gm a very Happy Birthday for yesterday I hope :)

    …… or to say thank you to TA for a lovely post about Dennis. 26may mentioned during the night that he can’t understand how some supporters can use the Bergkamp – Pires – Henry – Vieira combo to beat the current crop of players up – the years when those players graced the Highbury turf were so very special that we should just be thankful that we were around to see them and that they were ours.

  135. oz – are you about? Can we use your M’Vila post today as nothing else has turned up?

    Need posts everyone for the next few days please ………………..

  136. Red Arse says:

    Morning peoples, :-)

    OMG, that is a fiesty start to the day, but it reflects my own view on Rusty and his ilk. :-)

    Micky, not sure if I will be around today, but can you tell GIE that as a fellow accountant he is my ‘go to guy’, but he has let me down!!

    I bought an iPhone recently, on his recommendation, only to find when I asked ‘Siri’, an interactive computerized help, a perfectly reasonable question the conversation went like this;

    Me: “How do I etc, etc ……………………………………….?”

    Siri: “I don’t know! I have often wondered about that myself!”

    Cheeky sod – a smart arse computer! :-)

  137. LB says:

    That is exactly how I feel: we should be thankful that we were around to see them.

  138. Red Arse says:

    Belated ‘Happy Birthdays’ to GM and Glicster!! :-)

    Sorry about being late to the party – so to speak!

  139. Red Arse says:

    Hi, Chasser, :-)

    I love that ‘Viera’ vid too. Peaches is spot on we were so lucky to see/have so many wonderful players in that era — that Wenger man does not know anything, does he???? :-)

  140. Rasp says:

    Morning all, belated Happy Birthday GM.

    Is the ‘In Arsene we etc’ guy the same blogger who used to sign off with that phrase? I’m afraid I can’t be bothered to read his stuff – there’s nothing new, I’ve heard it all before.

  141. evonne says:

    If I could write, I would write a post about Wrighty. He is the one we don’t sing praises for, he sort of gets forgotten. To me he is a Legend as big as Thirry, Dennis and TA

  142. Rasp says:

    evonne, you can write, your comments prove you can. It doesn’t have to be perfect, we can help you all along the way as we have with others. If you just send us your basic draft we’ll do the rest :)

  143. Rasp says:

    …….. New Post ……..

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