How many Man Utd players would get into Arsenal’s First Team?

I spend much time discussing football with fans of other teams. Inevitably we play the “but he would never play in our team “game, and this could be the first of “How many Arsenal players would get in  ……… first team”?

Let us look at the current leaders of the PL,  Man Utd, taking what I believe to be Mr Wenger’s first choice 11 v Aaron’s view of the SAF’s first choice.

Note Well. This team is set-up in Arsenal’s formation , not the Man Utd 4-4-2 !

 

Van de Saar v Szczesny.

Not as obvious as one might think. Van de Saar has huge experience and has been a superb keeper. Had AW signed him 5 years ago we could well well won a title or two, but at 40 y.o. his powers are fading and retirement beckons. Whereas our new GK is but a slip of a lad and has a glittering future ahead – he dominates the area, is a fine shot-stopper and is learning quickly.  Experience v Youth?  It has to be the Pole.

Sagna v Rafael.

Rafael looks major find. Comfortable on the ball, can cross, likes to attack, and can tackle but he has already shown a questionable temperament and has clearly studied tapes of Dani Alves’s cheating  techniques. Sagna is quite simply the best right back in the PL. I would like to see his crossing improve but in every other area he is superb.

Centre Backs.

Man Utd are truly blessed in this area. Ferdinand and Vidic combine footballing skills and strength. They are both on-field leaders and the rock around which MU function. Arsenal’s first choice CB pairing is unclear, who are they? TV/JD? TV/Kos? Kos/JD?  The JD/Kos pairing seems stable and they combine well but neither is at the level of either of MU’s CB’s

Clichy v Evra.

I love Gael, I detest Evra, but my feelings are not based around their footballing ability.  Sadly, Evra is a fine footballer, a winner and very consistent. Gael, as we all know, has lapses, I think he is a better attacking force than Evra but Evra is more solid. I am afraid Evra gets the shirt.

Song v  Carrick

No contest here. When Carrick was at West Ham he looked as though he could develop into the new Bryan Robson – it didn’t happen, whether through lack of ability or injury, we will never know. Either way, he hasn’t the control or vision of Song who at the tender age of 23 is already one of the most influential players in the PL.

Fletcher v Wilshere.

Jack’s progress is nothing short of astonishing. At the age of 19 to be the central figure in the England team indicates a truly great player in the making, but Fletcher is the key player in a dull yet effective MU midfield. A terrier and a man who doesn’t accept losing – just the type of player we are lacking at Arsenal. So it is with heavy heart that I take Fletcher, because I believe that with him in the team we would already have won the PL, though I fully accept this is a controversial decision!

Nani v Theo

Another tough one. Nani has all the tricks, has pace and a fine shot. He also has a very questionable attitude and dreadful hair. Theo has better hair, more pace, less attitude and could be a future Arsenal great. However Nani has 9 goals and 16 assists and is the most effective player in the PL this season, whereas despite having his best season to date Theo has 7 goals, 6 assists. Shame on me but it has to be Nani

Rooney v Fabregas

This is difficult because they do not play the same roles as MU normally set up as 4-4-2-. If one assumes that Rooney is MU’s playmaker then we have to pit him against our own playmaker,  I could duck the issue and say it depends upon the opposition or shift Rooney out left to be compared with Nasri, but a direct comparison it has to be. Let’s look at this season’s stats – Cesc: 31 apps,  9 goals. 13 assists. Rooney: 29 apps, 9 gls, and 11 assists (?). On these stats Cesc is more slightly effective though both are the talisman of their sides. When either of them plays at the top of their form, their teams win. I love Cesc and this is an Arsenal site so Cesc gets it.

RvP v Hernandez/ Berbs.

I asked my MU mad friend Aaron who would be SAF’s first 11, and he chose Hernandez ahead of Berbatov. I would pick RvP ahead of either of them. Simply put, our Dutch striker is World Class, a player who can score both the spectacular and elementary goals.

Nasri v Valencia

Valencia is a fine player and I expect him to have a major impact on the PL next season, but Nasri is at another level. That Samir became France’s new National Captain last weekend is evidence of his rising stature and reliability. A fine player and with Valencia only just returning from injury, the obvious choice.

So a team of:

Quite how this team would function would be the managers concern though he would have a fantastic bench should the team not perform.

Clearly MU’s defensive steel added to Arsenal’s greater ball control would be a frightening prospect for any opposition and I would expect this side to win the PL, but they would be unlikely to go through a season unbeaten – only a truly great side could do that …. ;-)

Finally, today is the 10th anniversary of Rocky’s untimely death. We all loved Rocky, he was a Gooner through and through, a hero to all who watched his development through the youth teams and into the wonderful player he became. My favourite memory of him was his goal at the Lane in the League Cup Semi-Final – one of the most exciting moments of my life. Gone but never forgotten.

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264 Responses to How many Man Utd players would get into Arsenal’s First Team?

  1. Jules says:

    This article lost all credibility when you chose Fletcher over Wilshere! Laughable

  2. 26may1989 says:

    I love stuff like this, excellent post Raddy!

    I would go for the following:

    Szczesny
    Sagna, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra
    Song, Wilshere
    Nasri, Fabregas, Rooney
    Hernandez

    Gutting to pass over van Persie, but good as he is, he lacks a clinical, killer instinct. Hernandez has taht in spades and would gorge on all the chances a midfield with Wilshere, Nasri, Fabregas and Rooney.

    Like you I hate Evra but respect his ability. That said, he’s put in some very ordinary shifts in his time too and I see a resurgent Clichy and him as being evenly matched. But right now I’d accept that Evra shades it.

    I’d match up Carrick with Wilshere and Fletcher with Song, but regardless of that, I’d favour our two over United’s. Wilshere has so much to offer any side, and already sits above more limited players like Fletcher and Carrick.

    Rooney looks great on the left wing, I’d be delighted to have him over there, attacking the penalty area.

    And in goal, many United fans will say we’re deluded, but I agree, Szczesny is the one. Van der Sar is a great keeper, and like many I wanted us to grab him from Fulham, but he makes his share of mistakes too and I feel the younger man is already slightly ahead of him.

    Nani is a tough one to leave out (despite being an unpleasant little oik) but I do feel Nasri has more to offer, even though Nani is better in the traditional winger role.

    David Rocastle, we all loved him. I remember seeing him score an absolute scorcher against Liverpool in the League Cup, no backlift but the ball flew into the corner of the goal. The day Graham sold Rocky was the day I realised there was something very wrong in the way our club was being managed. Rocky was a true Gooner. RIP.

  3. Fergie is GOD. says:

    It doesnt matter how old Van Der Sar, no-one would pick the pole over the dutch master. Its very simple what the team would be, every single one United but I do believe Cesc Fabregas could get into our squad, he’s a pretty good player as is Van Persie. Van Der Sar, Rafael-Vidic-Ferdinand-Evra, Valencia-Fletcher-Fabregas-Nani, Berbatov/Hernandez-Rooney/Van Persie – I would play Cesc ahead of Carrick but to be honest only Fabregas and Van Persie would get into our squad.

  4. RR says:

    VDS

    Sagna Ferdinand Vidic Evra

    Nani Fabregas Fletcher Nasri

    Rooney van Persie

  5. Rasp says:

    Morning Jules,

    The article can’t have lost credibility because it is Raddy’s opinion, you clearly disagree which is fine. I was surprised he chose Fletcher over Jack. I understand his reasoning, and the 2 times manu have beaten us this season have mainly been down to outmuscling us in midfield so maybe his argument has merit (but I’d have to go for Jack too)

  6. Dj says:

    what a stupid article…just because ur polish keeper is young that doesnt mean he can replce class….van der saar at the age of 40 is the best gk in the league rite nw…is ur team the future 11 or the current 11??
    your defense is correct but you r putting song on right wing?? nani should be there anyday…unless you are playing 4-3-3 ur mid should be fabregas song and fletcher which is correct but nani on right van persie in between and rooney on left..
    so it should be:
    van der saar
    sagna vidic ferdinand evra

    fletcher song

    fabregas

    nani van persie rooney

    and if its 4-4-2 then:

    van der saar

    sagna ferdinand vidic evra

    nani fletcher fabregas nasri

    van persie rooney

  7. Fergie is GOD. says:

    It doesnt matter how old Van Der Sar, no-one would pick the pole over the dutch master. Its very simple what the team would be, every single one United but I do believe Cesc Fabregas could get into our squad, he’s a pretty good player as is Van Persie. Van Der Sar, Rafael-Vidic-Ferdinand-Evra, Valencia-Fletcher-Fabregas-Nani, Berbatov/Hernandez-Rooney/Van Persie – I would play Cesc ahead of Carrick but to be honest only Fabregas and Van Persie would get into our squad. Quite an interesting piece.

  8. goonerwife says:

    alright, anyone who drops RVP has definately lost me. He is the best. I cant believe someone would pick that kid over VP. EWWWWWW.

  9. goonerwife says:

    Oh no. I forgot this would bring a bunch of people calling you stupid on your own blog. Yur own ARSENAL blog.

  10. Evonne says:

    Hiya Raddy – hate Evra too! Agree with most, but you seem to left out Koscielny and Vermalean, I think they are excellent defenders. Also, Wilshere is must for my team.

    I’ll say a little prayer for Rocky’s family

  11. Rasp says:

    DJ,

    You are a guest on here. Manu supporters are welcome to join the debate but we do not appreciate phrases like ‘this is a stupid article’ – learn some manners or blog elsewhere.

  12. Big Raddy says:

    Jules appears to have missed out on the manners lessons at school, still he will have time when he gets to the 3rd year :-)

    This article is to promote discussion.

    RR/ FIG. As I said MU play a different formation to us and I have chosen the MU players to fit into OUR formation, not a 4-4-2, otherwise it would be obvious tp play both Fabregas and Rooney.

  13. chas says:

    Haha, Webb was playing for them even in those days.

    Just look at those Gooners behind the goal.

  14. 26may1989 says:

    Evonne, good as Koscielny and Vermalean are, the CB pairing at United is simply the best right now. I’d go as far as to say it is THE reason United are still competitive, having become more ordinary over the past couple of years in terms of creative play. Vidic and Ferdinand are indivudally better than our CBs and together are even better.

  15. Fergie is GOD. says:

    To be honest actually, my squad would be so. Van Der Sar, Rafael-Vidic-Ferdinand-Evra, Valencia-Fletcher-Fabregas-Nani, Hernandez- Berbatov/Rooney/Van Persie. Javier ‘Chicharito’ Hernandez is the guaranteed front man as he is that good, a ManUtd superstar and future legend, Mexico’s biggest superstar and the future best player in the world. The only Arsenal players I have is Fabregas and Van Persie, you cant let Barcelona buy Cesc or your screwed.

  16. Big Raddy says:

    FIG. I am stunned that you consider Rafael a better RB than Sagna. The others are open to debate, but Sagna is a much better player.

    Plus we are not talking potential here, we are discussing the team that would run out on Saturday – so despite his undoubted potential, Hernandez is not yet at the level of RvP. (IMO)

    In fact, when I wrote the article, I was very much in two minds as to whether t drop Fletcher for JW, it is only that the team needs bite that I included him, because IMO Wilshere is a far better footballer.

  17. Morning all, interesting poser there Radders and as ever thanks for your input – amongst the clamour for Vidic to be in a combined XI I wonder how effective he would be if he played for us.
    Would he get away with his brand of all in wrestling with opposition forwards if he wore the red and white of Arsenal as opposed to that of the Salford Kickers?
    We all saw how many times Kozzer was given soft reds and yellows for offences that are not even deemed fouls for either Vidic or the turtle faced drug cheat.

  18. goonerwife says:

    Well as we can see Manunited fans have some self respect and are not gonna come on here and and start adding arsenal players to their team, i suggest we do the same. There is not one man u player i would prefer. thats the truth.

    To be honest i dont care one little bit about manu right now. we are trying to win the title. This might have been a better discussion at the end of the season.

  19. chas says:

    chary :)

  20. Big Raddy says:

    “Turtle faced Drug Cheat”. Superb as ever Chary!

    Goonerwife. It’s the Interlull ….. sorry

  21. Big Raddy says:

    Chary. Happy day yesterday – the atmosphere in the ground was amazing, and the best team won.

  22. You mean at Mohali Radders ?
    I have a smile on my face today, unusual for one with doomer tendencies, similar to one you’d have after a semi final win against the spuds/mancs/chavs to the extent that I won’t really be bothered about the result of the final on saturday.
    In any case I’ll be with my fellow AA’ers getting pissed at the Tavern.
    Good times.

  23. Kidd says:

    Anyone who choose that skul boy hernandez ahead of rvp need serious mental help.or maybe he is jus tryn 2 be fun.the truth is arsenal players ar technichally better than united’s.wilshire is streets ahead fletcher.only c.bs and keeper wil get into our team and maybe rooney.the rest wil war the bench along with bendtner,denilso and co.

  24. johnQ says:

    yeah, many fans said that we will be screwed after Henry departure, but hey ho, we went to have 28 games unbeaten in all competitions, and only have been once on the losing sides in the league before a thug from birmingham ended Eduardo career at Arsenal.

  25. TB9 says:

    1- How can you possibly compare VDS with Szezny and somehow try to make choosing the pole logical. Heck, Kuszcak is better than your number 1! No comparison whatsoever.

    2- Why the hell do you compare Song to Carrick and not Scholes? Only reason I can think of is because Song would edge Carrick, not Scholes. Scholes in, Song out.

    3- Why do you compare Valencia, and not Giggs, to Nasri. In any case, Nasri gets the place this season, but I don’t seem to find it logical to choose Valencia who played a small number of games to compare him to Nasri.

    4- Rooney/Fabregas comparison.. complete BS!

    5- Why don’t you compare Rooney to Van Persie? Seems more logical my friend, and then compare stupid Chamack to Bendtner to Chicharito. Both United players will get the better of this one.

    My team:

    VDS

    Sagna, Rio, Vidic, Evra

    Nani, Scholes, Fabregas, Nasri

    Rooney

    Chicharito

  26. Fergie is GOD. says:

    Thats a good point, why wasnt Giggs/Scholes included. its not difficult. Van Der Sar, Rafael-Vidic-Ferdinand-Evra, Valencia-Fletcher/Fabregas-Scholes-Giggs/Nani, Hernandez-Berbatov/Rooney/Van Persie.

  27. Big Raddy says:

    TB9

    Firstly, if you read the article you will note that the MU sude was chosen by a MU fan, not me, as I too would have chosen Scholes and Giggs but as they are only bit players this season, Aaron stands by his selection.

    Secondly, You are entitled to your opinion but like mine it is biased :-)

  28. John says:

    Man Utd fan here. To be honest it’s pretty pointless comparing United’s and Arsenal’s teams. United will usually play a 442 compared to your 451/433 whatever you want to call it. United have had, and always will have as long as Fergie stays, flying out and out wingers. Wenger doesn’t seem to have any (maybe Walcott) but he prefers little technical players like Nasri and Arshavin to play on his wings. For this reason comparing Nani/Valencia/Giggs/Park to Nasri/Arshavin is pointless as they have different roles to fulfill. Sure Nasri is probably more skilful than Valencia but would we want him at United? No. He doesn’t get to the byline and put balls into the box as often or with as much quality as Valencia. One player may be more skilful than the other, but it does not mean they are better for the system. It’s why if you did this line-up in a 442 like Utd play you could only really make a case for one of Wilshere/Fabregas (I would still take Fabregas), Sagna (although I really believe if Rafael carries on at this rate he will be the best right back in the world), possibly RVP although I would still take Rooney and Hernandez. I just think RVP only has 1 foot and is a massively overrated, can’t ever really remember him doing it in a big game either, that will probably be controversial on here but oh well, an opinion is an opinion.

  29. Big Raddy says:

    FIG. Can you really come onto an ARSENAL site and expect anyone, apart from a MU fan, to agree with you?

  30. Rasp says:

    OK, this is what all new bloggers have to do …

    1. Read the article carefully
    2. Accept that its all about opinion – nothing is definitive
    3. Keep their comments polite and respectful

    Anyone who fails in the above will be binned and the world will never read their pearls of wisdom.

  31. goonermichial says:

    Sorry Raddy but fletcher over wilshire? Have you gone mad? I know mancs who think fletcher is pony. As for the twat manc who says only two of our players would get into thier “squad” go back to school you muppet. I’m in vietnam at the moment. He probably lives here by the looks of things.

  32. Hugo says:

    1stly – no doubt about it VDS would get in goal without question, and as you have to think about 38 games rather than just one or two I wouldnt even consider VP or Rio because of their injuries (good standins but not first choice). Its marginal between Fletcher and Wilshire only because the “holding” midfield position isnt a natural one for the latter (and you cant really have two playmakers as the only central midfielders)
    Song may be marginally better defensively but offensively he doesnt come close imo

    VDS

    Rafael Smalling Vidic Evra

    Valencia/Nasri Fabregas Fletcher Nani

    Rooney
    Chicharito

    VP may be a very good player but he is never fit for anything like a full season so cant be considered (like Rio). Subs Rio, VP, Vermalen, Wilshire, Valencia/Nasri, Giggs, Scholes, PIG & Schezney

  33. Rasp says:

    John,

    The article is far from pointless because it has exercised the minds of manu and Arsenal supporters at a time when football news is sparse. At the moment I would say that the Arsenal fans are being far less clubcentric than manu.

    To say that only 2 Arsenal players would get in the manu team is ridiculous. We are trying to have an adult debate that is not clouded by blind loyalty.

    If manu were as superior as some of you say, they would be streets ahead of us in the league – as you know, if we win all our remaining games, the premiership is ours and there would be nothing manu could do about it.

  34. Big Raddy says:

    John. Fine comment. As I keep saying – I am using Arsenal’s set up not MU’s, and as you so rightly say players have different roles. The question is how many MU players would get into the Arsenal team, not the other way round,

    In our set-up Rooney has no place unless he replaces Nasri on the left.

  35. goonermichial says:

    why would anyones dream 11 have fletcher in it? he is a shit player. He runs around kicking people. useless.

  36. Rasp says:

    gm, I’ve taken your comment off because it is more likely to make the debate descend into the sort of forum you’ve just said you don’t want us to be – if you get my drift?

  37. Big Raddy says:

    GM. Good to hear from you. Hope you are having a fine time.

  38. jame says:

    van der sah. Sagna -ferdinand – vidic – evra… Song – fabregas – diaby… Park – RVP – Walcott…, nani & rooney are over rated

  39. abel says:

    Good idea but very bad choices sometimes. Iam an Arsenal fan and your keeper’s choice is laughable….willshire is better than Fletcher but fletcher is btter than song,,,,

    Vandersar
    Sagna ferdinand Vidich Evra
    Willshire Fletcher Fabregas
    nasri rooney
    Vanpiersie

  40. Rasp says:

    The manu supporters can be forgiven for not appreciating how good Szczesny is, they wouldn’t have scrutinised him in the same way we have. I can assure them all that he is the real deal and I would definitely prefer him to the ageing VDS who has been a great servant to their club and clearly knows the right time to retire.

  41. John says:

    Rasp – It is not totally ridiculous to suggest only 2 players from Arsenal would get in the United first team playing a 442. The Arsenal team has been built around a 433. Unless a massive tactical overhaul was to happen I really believe only 2 would, like I said maybe RVP.

    Big Raddy – Fair enough. If I’m being honest and trying to be as unbiased as possible and play them in an Arsenal 433 I would go for:

    VDS (I happen to think Sczeszny has shown potential, but if you’re gonna pick the team to play tomorrow then it has to VDS)

    Sagna-Rio-Vidic-Evra

    Fletcher
    Wilshere Fabregas
    Nasri Rooney (

    RVP (I think he would play better in a 433 than Hernandez, Hernandez lacks any presence and I think he still needs a partner up with him. Still got a lot to learn, like Rooney learnt to play up top on his own last year)

  42. 26may1989 says:

    FIG’s line-ups are hilarious, almost no choices being made at all in midfield or attack: Valencia-Fletcher/Fabregas-Scholes-Giggs/Nani, Hernandez-Berbatov/Rooney/Van Persie!

    Scholes and Giggs would have been contenders 5 years ago, not now. The fact they still often get a game is more meaningful as a measure of how much the midfield at OT has stagnated.

    The thing United have that we really lack is spirit: they don’t let their technical limitations get in the way, they love to succeed however they can, and often do so. If we are going to beat them this year and in the future, we need to aspire to add qualities like that to our technical superiority.

    I understand why United fans doubt our choice of Szczesny but they don’t see him week in, week out. We know that this guy is the real deal and has every chance of reaching the level of the best keeper there has been in modern footbal, Peter Schmeichel. Van der Sar is very good, but he could never reach that level. I honestly would not swap van der Sar for Szszesny. And as for Kuszczak, you’ve got to be kidding!

  43. johnQ says:

    TB9, no need to insult any player, as you represents MU supporter here. Arsenal fan will think that all MU fans were as dick as you if you continue to do so. You’re an embarrassment to your club.

    The writer have pointed out that this team is set-up in Arsenal’s formation, not MU, and of course there will be a BS, this is an Arsenal site.

    and your team will concede a lot of goal because there are no Defensive midfield to protect the back four.

  44. afc says:

    why do people rate fletcher so high???? He is poor, he just runs around screaming at refs with his mate Rooney, he has no skill, he doesn’t score goals, he has no pace, wilshere is actually 200 times better than this northen monkey, sagna, wilshere, cesc, van persie, nasri, would all get in to this man who side

  45. Red Arse says:

    Morning Raddy and Rasp, :-)

    I was reallt interested in your views on this subject.

    However, my heart sinks to think we are going to have another day of testosterone fuelled bollox along the lines of ‘my dad is bigger than your dad’ or ‘our player is better than your player’.

    The majority of opposition fans who appear on rival blogs are there not to debate or discuss but simply to scream their puerile bile at the ‘enemy’.

    Sorry Raddy/Rasp but that’s something none of us can do anything about. Good luck! :-)

  46. K-TR7 says:

    I rarely comment but i just had to.John-rvp never does it in big games?LMAO.barca recently,against chavs,mancs,city,spuds and countless other occassions.its also a myth that rvp has only 1 foot;if that was the case the volleyed goal against wolves,against liverpool in 08/09,against inter in the Emirates cup and countless other goals with his chocolate leg are goals a right footed player would be proud of.

  47. Kamarano says:

    An interesting article.

    But how can you leave Wayne Rooney out of the team. Even in Barca, he’s sure to start. Also Nani is terrific; absolutely superb. Love it or hate it, it’s pleasant to watch Rafael play than Sagna.

  48. K-TR7 says:

    Hi RA.

  49. It would be nice if both sets of supporters could treat the debate as a fantasy team rather than geting upset that this one or that one hasn’t been included.

    We’re all playing Football Manager today and we are building an Arsenal team that plays as a 4-3-3 looking at which United players we might want to include in our first team.

    Seems to me that there is no need for any insults to be thrown from either side.

  50. Rasp says:

    Red Arse, as I said the other day, I’m just the janitor, its you guys who are driving the blog.

  51. 26may1989 says:

    Surely jame at 11.06 has alienated most fans of both clubs: Diaby and Park??! Brilliant!

    (I actually quite like Park, a real pro, always works hard, often scores in big games, esp against us…. But he certainly doesn’t get into a combined team. The less I say about Diaby the better, else RA will tell me off again.)

  52. Big Raddy says:

    RA. Sadly, it means a day of moderating. It was my fault for putting Man Utd on the tags which means (I think) that the post will appear on the MU Newsnow feed.

    Mea Culpa.

    But what it does show is how blinkered MU fans are.

  53. Acadoe says:

    TB9 beat me to it. I was wondering how one of the best midfielders in the world was left out of the list and the comments. Scholes is better than any of the midfielders. As was said, this is not about potential but about current skills, and Scholes is still the best IMO.

  54. I don’t think Scholes would start ahead of Wilshere in an Arsenal team though.

  55. 26may1989 says:

    Raddy, I disagree re the United fans who’ve posted: John and Hugo for example have been pretty reasonable. As for the others, we’ve seen much worse from other clubs’ fans when they’ve visited.

  56. goonermichael says:

    Fletcher? Really?
    If he was English would Capello be building the England team around him? Wilshire is already miles ahead of him in Passing, vision and desire. I know I’m biased and find it difficult to talk about them (the mancs) without descending into insults but really fletcher?

  57. 26may1989 says:

    I’m amazed at the faith shown in Scholes. A useful squad player, sure, little more than that these days.

  58. Raddy – we play with 11 don’t we – 4-2-3-1

  59. John says:

    K-TR7 – Anyone can score a dream goal with their weaker foot. Heck I’ve seen my mate curl one in to the top corner with his left foot on a Sunday afternoon when all he normally does is stand on it. I don’t believe he does it in big games no. Barca? Absolute goalkeeping howler from Valdes, got himself sent off (admittedly harshly) in the second leg. City? Drew 0-0 at home and beat them 3-0 away when they had Boyata sent off after like 10 minutes. Just checked RVP wasn’t even playing in that game. Chelsea? You beat Chelsea 3-1 yes, RVP didn’t score, and Chelsea were in the middle of their worst run for years. Utd? You lost 1-0 and RVP was a sub. I don’t see overwhelming evidence to suggest he does it in big games. But that’s besides the point of this article….

  60. goonermichael says:

    Having a great time BTW Raddy. Staying with a supermodel in a huge apartment in Ho Chi Minh. It’s a bit humid here though. I think the game is live here on Saturday night on star channel so I may even get to see the game. fletcher :(

  61. Rasp says:

    I think that some people are forgetting the need for balance in the team. The best team will not necessarily comprise the 11 best footballers, but the best blend of skill, muscle, tenacity, pace etc etc. Theo and Arsh have not been mentioned by anyone so far and yet they both have the potential to destroy teams.

  62. 26may1989 says:

    Well peaches, we might as well start with 10 men, christ knows the referees find a way of making it that way without much difficulty; e.g., Kos vs Liverpool, van Persie vs Barca, Diaby vs Newcastle, all joke red cards this season. By comparison Neville and Scholes seemed/seem incapable of being sent off.

  63. I think the point about Fletcher is that he brings a lot of blood and guts to the manu team though he’s not particularly talented.

  64. 26may1989 says:

    John: “Anyone can score a dream goal with their weaker foot” – quite right, and in Rooney’s case, with his shin.

  65. Evonne says:

    Raddy – it could be worse, you could have written Spurs comparison :) then again, they cannot be seriously compared to the mighty Arsenal

  66. Big Raddy says:

    Peaches :-(

    GM. Not a fan of HCM City. Much prefer the deep South or the North, but my, you live the high life!

  67. John says:

    26may1989 – lol even i laughed

  68. Big Raddy says:

    Evonne. It is my plan to do just that, and possibly a Chelsea and MC, as well. Maybe not this season but perhaps over the summer break.

  69. Shhhhhh Evonne, Raddy’s probably saving that one for a couple of weeks time ;)

    It’ll be lovely, I’ll stick the moderation on or it’ll be nervous breakdowns all round :P

  70. Red Arse says:

    Raddy/Rasper,

    I meant no criticism guys, just resigned to the ritual abuse that occurs whenever a rival team gets mentioned.

    26, is right in that so far comments gave not been too bad,let’s hope it stays that way. :-)

    Hi KT, :-)

  71. Big Raddy says:

    26. Anyone who says that only Fabregas would get into the MU is blinkered. No two ways about it.

    But you are right, I should have inserted the word “some”

  72. Raddy – I was just saying :( but maybe 26may is right and we should just start with 10

  73. tommystout says:

    fine writing BR
    my teams are based on if they would play tomorrow.
    4.4.2
    VDS
    Sag, Ferd, Vidic, Evra
    Nani, Fabregas, Song, Nasri
    Rooney Rvp

    4.3.3
    VDS
    Sag, Ferd, Vidic, Evra
    LJW Song Fab
    Rooney RVP Nani

    What was the last team to win the league without using a 4.4.2 system? If we don’t win it this season then i think we should change our formation or at least consider it as plan B.

  74. goonermichael says:

    I’m off now see you all later.

    (I’m with my wife Raddy. My life isn’t that much of the high life)

  75. 26may1989 says:

    tommystout at 11.39: “What was the last team to win the league without using a 4.4.2 system?” Chelsea 2010.

  76. Evonne says:

    Raddy – you are a brave man!! I cannot wait

  77. tommystout says:

    thanks 26m, shows how much i watch the other teams?
    thought they played 442? :-(

  78. mickydidit89 says:

    GM,
    “Staying with a supermodel”. Come in No 5!

  79. Red Arse says:

    Hi Tommy, :-)

    Your teams for 4:3:3 and 4:4:2 would both get my vote, but there is merit in other suggested combinations too.

    I think Park would be worth a mention, and the Little Pea guy seems to have a nose for goal. I’m not sure he has been mentioned yet, but our meerkat, comrade Arshavin, is definitely a game changer on his day too.

  80. 26may1989 says:

    Well tommy, to be fair, it did sometimes become a 442, when Anelka pushed up, but for the most part it was 433, with horseface cutting in from the wing.

  81. mickydidit89 says:

    BR,
    Wow BR. Fuse alight!
    Ferdinand and Vidic and stuff I get, but Rooney? Come off it!

  82. jack says:

    RR darren ‘kick people’ flecther ahead of Alex song as a holding midfielder, no chance

  83. Moses Watasa says:

    This is a fantasy article but this question is better in reverse, i.e. how many Arsenal players would break into Man Utd’s starting eleven? Answer: Cesc Fabregas and Robin van Persie. It’s embarrassing how such an average Man Utd squad is so superior to Arsenal that every time the two sides meet, the gunners take a humuliating whipping. 2010-2011 should have been a trophy-ladden season at the Emirates if only obstinate Arsene Wenger had recruited a reliable goal-keeper, a rugged defender and another striker in the mould of Robin van Persie.

  84. tommystout says:

    Hi Redders
    I would consider Park every time if the said team were to play against the Arsenal every week :-)
    As for AA, not at the mo, he’s lost his mojo, and even getting stick from his own national’s. Something wrong there if the russkies have noticed it too.

  85. Danish Gooner says:

    I would only take Wilshere before Fletcher.What a
    Legend Rocky was,blessed with incredible drive and technique a major screw up from GG selling him.Regarding the shirt Rocky is wearing,do anuyone know where to buy that replica ????

  86. Rasp says:

    Moses, the answer is exactly the same to both questions :roll:

  87. 26may1989 says:

    Danish, “Legend Rocky was,blessed with incredible drive and technique a major screw up from GG selling him.” I think that’s the first time we’ve ever agreed on anything.

    Re shirts, check out retrofootyshirt.co.uk or football-shirts.co.uk or toffs.com.

  88. Rasp says:

    The question that would divide most Arsenal fans would be: how many of today’s team would get into the Invincibles?

  89. Kidd says:

    2 say rooney wil hav a place in barca team is mere fantasy and wishful thinking.rvp wil start in any team in the world.arshavin is more talented than nani and valencia rolled 2gether.fletcher and carrick wil strugle 4 a place in a sunderland team.2 consider pensioneers lyk giggs and scholes is not only outrageous but utter disgrace.varmalean is better than rio ,given his goal contribution.nani is nuisance he lacks vision.

  90. Good point Danish – the point about Rocky has been missed by most posters.
    I have only vague memories of Rocky, but he’s near my age and to think he’s been dead 10 years, brings the shortness of his life into sharp relief.

  91. 26may1989 says:

    Rasp, good question: and my answer would be not many, even assuming the formation is the current one:

    Szczesny
    Sagna, Campbell, Vermaelen, Cole
    Vieira, Gilberto
    Bergkamp, Fabregas, Pires
    Henry

    Controversially no doubt, I’d still go for Szczesny between the sticks, and it’s tough to pick between Lauren and Sagna. Not having Kolo or Wilshere in there is difficult.

    But whatever the combination, what a side it would be!

  92. Big Raddy says:

    I was so upset when we sold Rocky. He was terribly treated by George Graham. Got a serious knee injury and then GG got rid of him. I recall that just before a World Cup Rocky had the chance of getting in the England side and GG deliberately dropped Rocky so he couldn’t get pitch time. It was at the time GG lost his mojo and got rid of Micky T and Rocky to replace them with journeymen.

    Those who witnessed his performance against Everton in the Carling SF in 1988 will never forget what a fine player he was. That night was one of the very best Highbury nights and Rocky was everywhere including scoring a goal of true genius.

  93. Rasp says:

    I agree 26m. A lot of supporters have been surprised that AW says this is his strongest squad ever. It may be true about the squad, but is it his strongest first team ever i.e. are today’s first 11 better than the Invincibles …. you appear to think not and I would agree.

  94. Carlito11 says:

    Afternoon- great concept for an interlull article Raddy! *doffs cap*
    I find very little to fault in TommyStout’s line ups and suggestion that Park and Hernandez would be knocking on the door of both. Liked Johns observation about our lack of true wingers too- a subject close to my heart.
    Moses “another player in the van persie mold”? They broke the mold when they made him mate-unique, a special talent! Or do you see someone in world football with similar attributes?

  95. 26may1989 says:

    Absolutely Rasp, the Invincibles’ first team is simply the best Arsenal side I’ve ever seen. The only teams in English football I’ve seen to compare are the great Liverpool side of in the late 1970s to mid 1980s and the Golden Generation United side.

    But I do agree with Wenger that the overall squad today is stronger – when you think that behind that great first 11 were the likes of Reyes, Cygan, Wiltord, Jeffers, Aliadiere and an ageing Keown, and compare that with the squad today, I can see why Wenger says what he does about hte squad today. The question is: will this generation realise their potential? And can the key players stay fit long enough to do so?

  96. Rasp says:

    26m, no question, the Invincibles was the best team ever to play in the premiership and included (IMO) the two best players ever to play in the premiership. I appreciate Giggs has been an unbelievably consistant and top performer but he does not compare with Henry or Bergkamp in terms of genius.

  97. 26may1989 says:

    Agreed re Henry and Bergkamp, when I think back to my formative years in the 1970s and 1980s as an Arsenal fan, it’s astonishing to think we had just one of those two, but to have them both in the same team defies any expectations the young me could have had.

    The fly in the ointment of the Invincibles is that they never cut it in European football. They seemed ideally built for it but often went out with a whimper. The 2006 CL Final was great (and tragic) of course, but the side was already being taken apart by then, in preparation for the new stadium project.

  98. Rasp says:

    Carlito, if you’re around, can you give us the inside knowledge on Swedish teenager Kristoffer Olsson who we are apparently about to sign?

  99. Chudi says:

    Greetings from The Busby Way, just wanted to say nice piece even if I don’t agree with a number of your selections!

    Always good to see new innovative ideas for blogs and I’ll be sure to check in on your site in the future for more United related pieces.

  100. Red Arse says:

    Chudi,

    I cannot tell you how pleasant it is to read your comment. We support different teams but you seem a true football fan.

    Well done, as far as I am concerned you are welcome back anytime. :-)

  101. RockyLives says:

    BR
    When I read the headline of this post my immediate thought was “Brilliant!” I love this stuff – playing hypotheticals with other teams’ line-ups or past Arsenal line-ups.
    And, although I know not every AA regular likes posts that end up bringing in opposition fans, I think it can be really interesting.
    For the most part, the Manc fans posting on here have made sensible and reasonable comments and raised some very good points albeit usually though ManU tinted glasses, just like most of us see things through Arse glasses (Glarses?).
    I thoroughly enjoyed the post and almost all of the subsequent comments.

  102. RockyLives says:

    Of course, the one Man Utd player I would take without any hesitation would be…
    Howard Webb :)

  103. Afternoon. Nice words on Rocky. What a genuine guy and how sad that his life should be cut so short. Seeing his family in Cardiff shortly after was heartwrenching. Nice tribute from the club on the website today, which I have added to my blog… http://redandwhiteviews.blogspot.com

  104. RockyLives says:

    And I can’t comment today without mentioning the anniversary of Rocky Rocastle’s death.
    He’s my avatar and the man whose name I took for my blogging identity.
    Although he died tragically young, his courage, skills and personality are indelibly etched in the memories of all Gooners who saw him play.
    Sadly missed Rocky. Never forgotten.

  105. Red Arse says:

    Hi Rocky, :-)

    Very true about poor Rocky Rocastle!

  106. Red Arse says:

    26,

    Never let it be said I don’t have any sympathy for potential Mac users. :-)

    John Lewis are doing an online ‘special’ price for the Macbook Air. Discounted compared with their shop prices, blah, blah.

    Apple MacBook Air, MC504B/A, Intel Core 2 Duo, 256GB, 1.86GHz, 2GB RAM with 13.3 Inch Display £1,326. There is a cheaper, lower spec job too.

    No; I don’t work for JL, but they are a good outfit!

  107. RockyLives says:

    BR
    In a 4-3-3 out of current Utd and Arse first team players my line up would be:

    GK: Van der Saar (Chesney will be great, but he is still young and raw and, even in his short time as our number 1, has already made a blunder that cost us a cup).

    FBs: Sagna and Evra (no real contest).

    CBs: Ferdinand and Vidic. Perhaps if Verm had been fit this season he would have forced his way in, but as things stand you have to go with the best defensive partnership in the EPL.

    MF: Song, Cesc, Wilshere. Song can do everything Fletcher does and more besides. How anyone can leave out Jack when the whole England team is being built around him amazes me (sorry BR).

    Attack: Theo, RvP, Rooney

    No place for Nasri, which was a difficult call. And I’ve gone for Theo and RvP on the basis of them being fit and playing regularly. In that case I think Theo shades it over Nani, despite the stats.

    I suppose this does seem like a team selection through my Glarses.

  108. Red Arse says:

    Not a bad shout Rocky, but I would reluctantly go for Nani over Theo, as I don’t think Theo is a ‘real’ winger.

    But what do I know? :-)

  109. 26may1989 says:

    RA @ 2.46, many thanks, you’re a star!

  110. London says:

    Brilliant post

    I have found an entry point. Song, Fabregas, Wilshere midfield. I agree with the Song — Fletcher argument, Fabregas needs no explanation but Jack over Nasri? It is true that the whole of the England team is being built around him but the whole of the French team is being built around Nasri and here’s the kicker…..Nasri has a goal threat about him while Wilshere has practically none…..everything being built around Wilshere is all fine and dandy but while this is going on we have a reduced goal threat and as a consequence important points are being dropped.

  111. 26may1989 says:

    Wilshere will become more of a goal scorer, just as Fabregas has, it’ll come. But right now, fair comment London.

  112. London says:

    I thought the hypothetical post was based on this coming Saturday.

  113. Good news bad news:

    Good news, it’s official, Fab, Song and Theo are back for Saturday with Robin, Rambo and Bendy having a good chance to be involved also.

    Bads news is Diaby’s back(I’m sorry I can’t get excited at him being available, yeah, my bad).

  114. Red Arse says:

    I know I am being mean, but I have just had a laugh at a comment, elsewhere, which fell foul of the ‘hanging/dangling participle’ rules.

    –“The young manager watched his tall centre half training hard while picking his nose.” :-)

    Should have been — “the young manager while picking his nose, watched his tall centre half training hard”.

    [I slightly changed the words as the originals were somewhat scatalogical.]

    The fact I found it funny probably reflects more on me than the originator! :-) Oh well.

  115. Red Arse says:

    Hi CharyB, :-)

    Anymore ‘diabolical Diaby’ sentiments and I will have to take you to task, the same as 26!! :-)

  116. Oh right RedA – I think the phrase here is “Respectfully disagree” on our number 2.

    I maintain he’s absolute garbage, and that’s the expletive deleted version of my assessment, but I won’t slate anyone who disagrees with my VHO.

  117. Red Arse says:

    CharyB,

    I probably haven’t helped his cause by using the mellifluous cadences of the euphonic ‘diabolical Diaby’.

    Shot myself in the foot, again. :-)

  118. You could have used “The dud-diaby” RedA :)

  119. Red Arse says:

    CharyB,

    You may have noticed my amusement at the hanging participle clanger I mentioned earlier.

    Well many years ago, I scoured the accounting SSAP’s for grammatical errors, like that above, just to lighten things up and to razz the ICAEW, but without success. It helped me memorize them tho’, so it was not totally fruitless, and perhaps the powers that be had plonkers like me in mind anyway! :-)

  120. I reckon they draft SSAP’s, SORP’s, FRED’s. FRIC’s and UITF edicts in the most hard to read and grammatically inept way possible RedA.
    They go on the presumption that if you are a numbers person you are happy to see the language desecrated in order to give any of the ASB’s pronouncements sufficient gravitas.
    That’s my theory anyway – probably pure bollocks though.

  121. Red Arse says:

    You may well be right CharyB. I blame lawyers, of course, for drafting them in such a way as to make them incomprehensible. [Where's that 26?] :-)

    In the US the IFRS standards are still running alondside GAAP, GASB and FASAB in many States. Lovely! :-)

  122. Red Arse says:

    My dreadful humour and accounting bollox seems to have driven off both the Mancs and our own lads, so I am taking myself off too, before someone blacklists me!! :-)

  123. RockyLives says:

    Chary, Redders
    What on earth are you two talking about? GAAPs, GASBs? FASABs? Like Bergkamp and RvP, it’s all double Dutch to me…

  124. Red Arse says:

    Rocky,

    Best to ignore us! :-)

    I was just shutting down when I saw your comment and it reminded me that a few days ago, in my absence, I was described as a lothario!

    I would just like to set the record straight, and you can be my witness.

    Over the years I have pursued, flirted with and shmoozed many dozens of women, but I have not slept with one of them!!

    Can’t remember her name for the minute. :-)

  125. Rocky, it’s bean counter speak – and I fear RedA has correctly predicted we’ve scared off our gooner mates and the mancs(always a result in my book anyway)

  126. RockyLives says:

    Redders :)

    Chary
    The Mancs have been fairly civilised today, but if, on a future occasion, rival fans are coming on here and being obnoxious, we now know how to drive them away:
    Deploy the Accountants!

  127. 26may1989 says:

    RA, me old mucker, you claim to have been scouring the “SSAP’s” for grammatical errors, and yet you deployed an apostrophe needlessly: there is no apostrophe in “SSAPs”. Am not sure which is sadder, debating accounting principles, or getting uptight about sodding apostrophes. Accountants and lawyers, as bad as each other.

    Please, feel free to insult me, I deserve it.

    Anyway, back to business: Diaby is beyond redemption, he has buckets of talent but seems to lack the mental strength to get the best out of it. Even with his bad luck with injuries, he should have done much more in an Arsenal shirt in his six years with the club than he has. Move him on, I say.

    By the way, talking of Manchester, I went to see Elbow the other night – bloody marvellous. If only all Mancunians would stick to the music and ignore football, life would be much more pleasant.

  128. Big Raddy says:

    RL :-) I started my work life as a Chartered Clerk in an Accountancy practice in Lincoln’s Inn Fields. What a dreadful couple of years that was! Then I found Rock n’ Roll.

    I think I should have explained in the post that I was comparing a direct like to like with this MU team

    VDS
    Rafael Ferdinand Vidic Evra
    Nani Carrick Fletcher Valencia
    Rooney
    Hernandez.

    Therefore, Carrick would be right side MF and Fletcher left. It is a simplistic method but made sense when I wrote the piece.

    If I were to choose a team based on 4-4-2, it would be

    Szczesny
    Sagna Ferdinand Vidic Evra
    Song Cesc Fletcher Nani
    RvP Rooney

    with Nani free to switch wings.

    which is a 6-5 MU bias, whereas my original team was 6-5 to Arsenal

  129. Big Raddy says:

    26. You lucky fellow – I love Elbow and their new album is very, very good.

  130. 26may1989 says:

    It was very, very good Raddy – the man Garvey is a star.

    Am off to a musical experience of a different sort now, my daughter’s orchestra’s concert. Earplugs at the ready…..!

    Evening all.

  131. Carlito11 says:

    Rasp- no idea on Olsson I’m afraid. Having a Swedish Mum doesn’t even slightly qualify me to talk about young Swedish players!
    26M “Please, feel free to insult me, I deserve it.” made me burst out laughing in my office and drew some strange looks! Don’t quite know why it tickled me!
    I can only agree with this sentiment: “If only all Mancunians would stick to the music and ignore football, life would be much more pleasant.” So much top music from up there- Ian Brown is a hero of mine and Happy Mondays are still an inspiration for me. Shame about their football clubs ;-)

  132. Red Arse says:

    26,

    Thank you for spotting the errant apostrophe. :-)

    The historic use of the old Germanic English genitive possesive case and contractions are the only times an apostrophe should be used.

    It is also arguable that the ‘s’ at the end of SSAPs is not correct. It is not ‘principle’ that is plural, but ‘statement’ because there are a number of them.

    Hence – Statement(s) of Standard Accounting Practice, SSAP. But as this is not euphonic and does not easily roll of the tongue, an unnecessary ‘s’ is added to make it so. [SSAPs]

    I would take a draw on that, you sad old thing!! :-)

  133. Red Arse says:

    Gulp, I meant practise in the 3rd para, not ‘principle’!

    I have no principles ….. obviously! :-)

  134. London says:

    Fools Gold quite appropriate…Manchester, music, football, it just works on so many levels.

  135. SharkeySure says:

    Given the opportunity to take three players from the Old Toilet, it would be Vidic Fletcher and Rooney. If I was then asked if my decision was final, I’d then ask if I could trade them back in for some of Utds fighting spirit and winning mentality. If they said yes, then thats what I’d take.

    That really is all that they have over us.

    Brilliant work Mr Radders, quality article that got everyone talking and debating.

    I love AA. New job prevents me from joining in during the day at the moment. Shame.

  136. Evonne says:

    Guys, is it true that at ManU they have performance related bonus scheme? Is it just at Mancunia?

  137. Mickeyk says:

    What about wenger for fergie

  138. SharkeySure says:

    No way Maciek. Party of the pride of ARSENAL is having had very few scumbags associated with the club.

    If Fergie wrote a manual on engendering fighting spirit, then I wouldn’t mind Arsene reading it, but no way would I swap our glorious leader for the man who paid £32m for Dimitar Berbatov.

  139. SharkeySure says:

    Danglng participles, genitive possessives’s…lol

    Only on ArsenalArsenal. Quality

  140. Evonne says:

    Sharkey – why did you say ‘no way Maciek’? Are you Polish?

  141. Harry says:

    Alright Raddy, great thought provoking article….Dont some people just miss the point about a blog, its almost hilarious, but so sad…..

    Anyway back to the article: I can see why you made some decisions, but I couldnt workout your rules for picking,so I am going for the best players in the squads if all were available:

    Van Der Sar (chez pushes all the way)

    Sagna Vermaelen Vidic Evra (that hurt)

    Song Wilshere

    Nasri Fabregas Rooney (walcott pushes all the way)

    Van Persie

    Now that team would be some team……….

  142. Big Raddy says:

    Harry. Given a different system my choice would be my 5.13 comment – we are only one/two players apart

    Thank you all for the kind words and a healthy debate.

  143. Gooner in Exile says:

    I have been serving my penance today for abandoning the wife this Saturday. My duty was fence painting. As such I have missed the fun here today.

    For my tuppence:

    VDS

    Sagna Koscielny Ferdinand Evra

    Cesc Wilshere
    Rooney

    Nani. Hernandez. Theo

    Chose Van Der Saar for experience and Kos as I think he is better on the ground and at reading the game than Vidic.

    I’ve obviously cheated a bit to get others in but I’m basing it on an ideal 4-3-3 that could possibly beat and definitely worry Barca’s current team. The pace wide would be able to exploit the missing full backs and Hernandez appears to have the Lineker like ability to be in the right place at the right time.

    As for Chary and RA’s accounting chat I am glad I no linger have to deal with that stuff having left Year End Accounts and audit behind so I don’t have to keep up with that stuff.

    It did remind me of an interview I had at Enron though when I left my first job (left is a kinder term for being asked to leave for failing ACA finals twice). My job at Enron would have been in US accounting team, I explained that I knew nothing of US GAAP, I was told it was ok as Enron were so big they dictated US GAAP, they also pointed out Andersens partners office. This was about a year before the holes appeared in their figures.

  144. SharkeySure says:

    Ticket for Sat sorted !!!

    See you guys around 4.30 I reckon

  145. GiE – agreed, accountancy is as boring a job as they come; still my dream life of bass player for a metal band in the autumn/spring and fast bowler for a county cricket side in the summer never worked out.

  146. SharkeySure says:

    Cześc Evonne you ticket stealing ratbag ;-). Jak się masz..??

    My dyslexia made think that MickeyK was Maciek. Maciek was a Pole (plank?) from ‘the other site’ that I used to blog on. Or at least I thought was ‘blogging’ until I came here !!!

  147. I’ll see you Saturday also S Sure – just an annoying Friday at work to get out of the way first.

  148. SharkeySure says:

    I’ve already met yo Chary, you’re not on either of my lists for Sat. One each for people to greet, and people to beat.

    Oh and I’ll also have some harsh words (in Polish?) for Evonne, for stealing that spare ticket of 26’s that I had my eye on. First it was just our jobs…now its tickets from life long Gooners !! Shocking.

  149. Feels like being turned away at a night club door S Sure: “You’re not on the list”, LOL.

    It was the Burnley game last year I think i met you, you had your son there.

    Is Evonne polish/going to be there also ?

    Looks like we’re well into double figures for a pre match drink up.

  150. SharkeySure says:

    Accountancy. The epitome of a means to an end for me. Decent pay, pretty much guaranteed to always be in work. Simple really.

    I finished my last contract on 18th Feb, started new role on 14th Mar. I was disappointed to even have a three week gap, should have been none! Even one of those weeks was only due to pre-employment screening before I could start.

    Accountancy, I don’t exactly love it, but I really can’t say that it does me any harm.

    Nite all

  151. SharkeySure says:

    Yep Burnley. My alzheimers had it fixed in my mind as Brum for some reason. Went to that earlier in the season, or the season before. I only realised as I found the e-receipt for it when booking this one.

    I’m only 44. I don’t like to think about my ‘issues’ getting worse !

    Nite all

  152. Gooner in Exile says:

    No wonder I feel at home here Accountants everywhere!!

    I’m still an Accountant Chary, just not dealing with the end of year anymore. My business slogan is “taking care of business” caring sharing monthly management accounts.

  153. 44 too also, but issues are no better.

    GiE – too true, accountants everywhere.

    Night all.

  154. Clearly AA stands for Arsenal Accountants then ;)

    Nite all ……. nearly Saturday

  155. Gooner in Exile says:

    Certainly explains why so many of us are enamoured by the prudence model set by the club.

    Listened to Tuesday Club Q&A with AW, Keown and Winterburn, very interesting listen. One stat Arsene produced is worth remembering. The average age of the Arsenal team starting in 1st leg against Barca was 23, Barcas average age was 27. Look at the level we are playing at now and take it forward four years…..

  156. [...] How many Man Utd players would get into Arsenal’s First Team? I spend much time discussing football with fans of other teams. Inevitably we play the “but he would never play in [...] [...]

  157. Harry says:

    Night all that have gone and morning to those arriving….

    Just got in from work!!

    Raddy: Yeah seen your 5.13, earlier didnt have a chance to read comments, had only popped home for 1hour….But I hadnt read the daily post…..

    SharkeySure: Looking forward to meeting up, will be there from 4!!

    Who’s on the meet list?

    Why do people keep on putting ferdinand in their teams, so over rated, I’d put him on par with Cygan!! ALthough thats a bit harsh on Pascal, now there is a question, how on earth did wenger get 2million for him when we only brought him for 1million, genius!!

  158. Gooner in Exile says:

    Lol Harry re Cygan.

    For me Ferdinand is the strongest of the two United centre backs they look worse when he is not there.

    The list as far as I can work out

    Rasp
    Peaches
    Evonne
    26may
    Carlito
    Sharkey
    Chary
    Micky
    Harry
    Me

    That’s 10 have I missed anyone?

  159. mickydidit89 says:

    GiE,
    The one and only Big Raddy
    Brigham

  160. mickydidit89 says:

    I’m out today, then setting off early tomorrow, so look forward to meeting many of you for the first time. I anticipate some atrocious behaviour, and not just from Chary!
    Has there ever been a bigger blogsite gathering?

  161. mickydidit89 says:

    I also expect some expert advice on Tax Dodging!

  162. Evonne says:

    Sharkey – I did not steal your ticket!!! Ask Peaches and 26may!! I told them to offer it to you first!!! Oh no, I hate upsetting anyone :( :( :(

  163. Carlito11 says:

    What’s the earliest anyone’s getting to the tavern? Not sure I can stay off the beers till 4!

  164. mickydidit89 says:

    Evonne,
    You shall be “corrected” tomorrow. :-)

  165. mickydidit89 says:

    Carlito,
    I will be in Finsbury Park soon after 1. Might try and meet anyone for a bite. Peaches has my mobile number.
    Peaches,
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  166. Big Raddy says:

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  169. Morning chaps, if the trains are ok I’ll be at the tavern for 3.30 – I almost get the feeling we should hav ename tags(Peachy/Evonne excepted for obvious reasons) as I doubt I’ll be able to remember so many new names very easily.

  170. Evonne says:

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  172. I think it’ll be easier to use avatar names Evonne – I’ve only just about been able to remember Peachy’s real name – I keep forgetting Raspers one and that’s after being told it a year ago.

  173. Evonne says:

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  175. Good idea Evonne, but I think Peachy has so much on her plate – I think it’s best just to lager her up so she can relax.

  176. Gooner in Exile says:

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