A Case for the Defence

Written by Gooner in Exile

Yet again after the weekend result it is the defence that has been called into question, the cries of weakness are again heard and the calls for a return to the glory days of the famous four of Adams, Bould, Winterburn and Dixon. Add to those four Keown and yes we had an impressive back line available. Put behind those legends, the one and only David Seaman and we looked unbreakable.

Fast forward to the current generation, our first choice back four, Sagna, Koscielny, Djourou, and Clichy, with Vermaelen waiting for permission to rejoin the trenches. I honestly think this defence is one we can build a successful side on. I also believe that in Szczesny we have a keeper who will be one of the best in the world. Suddenly this defence is looking solid, assured and dominant.

The media continue to point to our weak defence for a reason why we won’t be succesful. I think most of us who have seen games this year would agree that Kozzer and JD are forming a good understanding, Kozzer is as fearless as any Centre Back I have seen at the Arsenal for some time, and JD is becoming a considerable force dominating opposing centre forwards for entire games. In Sagna we have probably the best right back in the league and Clichy is becoming a better defender every game (5th most tackles in EPL this season with highest success rate of the top 5 tacklers (78%)).

The team went 4 Premier league games without conceding through January, when we did concede in the league in 2011 it was to a Mason assisted goal by Saha, then came Saturday and our trip to St James Park. Up until then I really believed that we had turned a corner, Szczesny providing confidence and communication to an improving back four, so what went wrong, where did this new found stability disappear to?

We went down to 10 men, but that does not guarantee the opposition a route back into the match, so scratch that as a reason.

JD got injured and on came Squillaci, one change to the back four however hopeless some Arsenal fans think he is (he isn’t by the way) should not cause a problem.

The midfield were asked to defend and dig in……now this is where I think the problem lay and is often a problem for any footballing side, but more often than not for us. Our inability to defend as a team.

I am not talking about the pressing and harrying up the pitch at 0-0, we have done this really well this season, I am talking about when the opposition start to have more possession, and push themselves into our half for long periods. Sooner or later if we are under pressure our midfielders start to give away needless free kicks and so invite more pressure.

This leads to the biggest problem, defending set pieces, this is also why I get annoyed with the criticisms of the defence, as they are not the only ones defending set pieces, watch Chelsea, and you will see Drogba, Lampard, Essien, Mikel, Malouda all doing their jobs in their own box, could you really say the same of Cesc, Samir, Jack, Theo and Arshavin? They will never be able to win a ball in the air against the Premier League giants.

We need to change the way we defend from set pieces, we need to hold a much higher line. For now I’m talking freekicks in the final third, too often we have conceded goals as the players hold the eighteen yard line and just before the ball is struck you will see them drop five yards and invite the opposition into our area and make it very tough for our keeper to come and claim the ball.

Look at the video below, the Newcastle goal and the Chelsea goal over Christmas were the two best examples I could find of this.

For Andy Carroll’s goal the defence takes up position on the edge of the D, by the time the ball is kicked we are already on the 18 yard box, and by the time it has travelled to 10 yards from goal both Newcastle and Arsenal players are in the 18 yard box making it very difficult for Fabianski to come and claim.

Even worse is the Chelsea goal, again the defence hold a position of the 18 yard box but before Drogba has struck the ball we are almost on the penalty spot and the ball can be delivered in to the dangerous area just outside the 6 yard box.

In both situations we would have benefited from holding a much higher line and when I say hold I mean HOLD, not follow runners, let them run offside. For the Newcastle goal if we had taken up residence 10 yards further forward there is no hope in hell that Carroll would have time to reach a ball played onto the penalty spot and stay onside. Again with the Chelsea goal ask yourself whether Ivanovic would make contact with that ball if the line was held on the D, the pace Drogba plays that ball it would be in Fabianski’s hands (hopefully) in a split second, with the whole area free of bodies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znq7tshzDU0

Dropping deep from set pieces before the ball is kicked is a pet hate of mine, I would never allow my defenders to come that deep into my area, it was mine I took responsibility for it, I think Szczesny might just have the confidence to do the same, then we can say goodbye to being petrified everytime the opposition has a freekick in the final third.

Anyway this is a tactical issue one that I think Arsene Wenger and Pat Rice are more qualified to put right, the main reason for my post was to stress that this current defence is not as bad as everyone would like us to believe, sometimes we have to look at the rest of the team (and not just the normal scapegoats) to dig in and help them out on occasion.

Afterall even the great Tony Adams admitted that he had to talk Wenger in the early days to explain that they needed the midfield to provide a screen for them, and break up attacks, they couldn’t do it all on their own either once the shackles had been taken off the rest of the team.

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77 Responses to A Case for the Defence

  1. Morning all

    Great post GiE, thank you.

    I said after the game that I didn’t remember seeing Cesc, Theo, Arsh or Robin hardly at all in the second half. Why weren’t we trying to win the ball back? Why were we allowing Newcastle so much possession – just because we were 4 nil up?

    It was naive, we’d lost 2 of our tallest players and yet we left ourselves open to an airial bombardment by not defending as a team. Sort it out Arsene

  2. crispy says:

    What a gr8 article, u have just said what i’ve been saying for a long time, my only worry is if we can c a soloution y can’t pat rice & AW….worrying

  3. Big Raddy says:

    Fine article. Much to ponder – is this defence good enough? Can it become so? Would our current full backs improve the Famous 5?

    Will think about it whilst hoovering….

  4. Carlito11 says:

    Thanks for the post GiE :-)
    I have to agree that i think we’ve now got our best defensive personnel since Sol left us the first time and the emergence of Big Johan has been one of the great positives of the season so far. I like that Tony Adams had a word with Wenger about shielding the back four and this can be a let down with our current squad, especially when Song is absent. Sometimes, with our backs against the wall, it seems that the positioning of our players is chaotic, like they’ve heard the phrase “bodies in the box” but no-one has explained either who takes which man or who takes responsibility for which area. At least we have men on the posts for corners and free kicks now!

  5. Rasp says:

    Morning,

    Brilliant analysis GiE. Your knowledge of defence related matters is far greater than mine, so I will only add this suggestion (one you may have heard before)…

    If the game is in the balance, we should tell Theo to stand on the halfway line when defending set pieces. Theo seldom manages to contribute with our aerial power in defence (unlike the newly rejuvenated RvP) but his presence on the halfway line is likely to take at least one of the opposition players out of our box. I know this goes against the ‘defend as a team’ theory – which I strongly believe in, but the net gain would be to swap Theo for one of their attacking defenders and give us a chance of a quick breakaway goal.

  6. Red Arse says:

    GIE, one of the best analytical Posts I have read. :-)

    They say a bad idea is an orphan as no one owns to it.
    A good idea has many owners claiming parentage.

    The same holds true for a really excellent Post such as this. We would all love to have been the author, because it is right on the button. Well done!

  7. Wonderman says:

    GIE Excellent !!!

    Your first point of giving away needless free kicks is the key.
    The first objective of defending is closing the player down inorder to get his head down so he cannot assess his passing options

    The second is to then delay him so that your team mates can get into supporting positions.

    Based on your teams’ way of playing the third phase is to either win the ball outright, force him to pass backwards or force an error to intercept

    In so many games I witness our players either not closing down quickly, or doing so then diving in and conceeding ridiculous free kicks

    I agree with you that our defence is not as bad as the press would have us believe

  8. London says:

    Excellent post and a great, great read. I am sitting here slightly stunned by what now seems like the obvious necessity to implement the points you make.
    By the way, I really like the classy way you dealt with Wenger, Rice and Squillaci.

  9. Red Arse says:

    Hi Rasper,

    We have undoubtedly got some of the best technical midfielders in the world.

    But they, like Scholes, Modric and others of a diminutive stature, tend not to be very good at defensive tackling.

    I know little Jack can be a demon tackler on occasion, and Scholes can be a little b*st*rd, but, over a prolonged period of time, that is not their forte.

    They need to learn to buzz around the opposition like wasps around jam, so that if they don’t get the ball they can still be a bloody nuisance and distract the oppo from getting good balls into the box.

    You are so right about keeping Theo high up field for break aways when we are under pressure.
    OK, he cannot tackle, but no defense would be happy to leave him in a one on one situation, high up field, with one lumbering defender and they would have to commit two players to keep tabs on him.

    That is why it sometimes drives me barmy army when Arsene takes him off in those situations.

  10. Rasp says:

    I agree Wonderman. We give away far too many freekicks needlessly. Just running into the back of a player holding your hands in the air isn’t going to convince the ref that it was an unpunishable accident. Song used to be a culprit but has improved. Clichy still jumps in too heavily I think. The full backs ought to be happy to shepherd wingers out to the flanks and prevent the cross coming ver.

  11. Rasp says:

    Morning RA,

    Once again, we should look to the Barca model to see how it should be done. They work really hard closing down the ball and they defend as a team. I’ve seen some of our midfielders lose possession and then jog back thinking, that’s ok, it’s the defence’s job to mop up after me – no, no, no

  12. tommystout says:

    great post, our defense isnt as bad as people say, looking at goals conceded we are more than holding our own with Chavs and Scum.
    anyways Rasp makes an excellent point about Theo, one ive been pondering on for months.
    If we can see these shortcomings why cant the men that matter.
    Mind you it was nice to see AA making the last ditch tackle in the 6 yd box the other day.

  13. Smith14 says:

    It’s good to read a post where someone is rational about our defence. Ok, we don’t have Tony Adams in the centre but, only United, Chelsea and the £250m defensive unit of Manchester City have conceeded fewer than us. Really, for a team who selects almost all it’s players according to what they offer going forward, that’s not a bad return.

    The only thing I would say is that it’s easy to argue that we should hold a high line from free kicks however, if you don’t drop off it’s easy for a ball to be dropped in behind and for a centre forward to time his run in and score. In theory, you hold the line and they stray offside but from a set piece, it’s far easier to check your run as a striker than it is from open play.

    It’s partly about perception. If you defend a set piece, which we do the majority of the time, it gets instantly forgotten. You only need to conceed once and its yet another goal from a set piece. Even Chelsea conceed from set pieces, it’s the law of averages. I’d be interested to see stats which show the percentage of goals to free kicks conceeded.

  14. Gooner in Exile says:

    Interestingly heard Keown recently discuss the defence, in his time at Arsenal we used a zonal system to defend set pieces, that is doable when you have Viera and Petit who can also be responsible for a zone, we couldn’t give the same responsibility to our current midfield (perhaps only Song from starting XI).

    Smith14 the difference with playing a high line is for the attacking side to be able to get on the end of it, timed run or not, the ball has to be given more air, which should give 6ft5 Chesser the chance to beat any attacker to the ball. Playing deeper allows a flatter/quicker delivery far harder for a keeper to deal with. Look at the Stoke goals that Sunderland conceded on the weekend too many players in the box. If we had played a highline before the second penalty on Saturday Bartons ball would have gone out of play with not a player near it. It takes a lot of practice to get it right admittedly. I’d even consider taking a high line for long throw ins, any forward flick on would result in offside players.

    Thanks for the kind comments folks

  15. Smith14 says:

    GiE,

    It’s an interesting debate certainly. There are shortcomings of both systems. I definitely agree that the way Sunderland defended at Stoke invited problems and that sort of deep defence only impedes a keeper.

    I would just add that I’m sure Rice and Wenger do discuss this sort of thing and when they choose not to do something that some supporters suggest should be elementary, it is becasue they say a deficiency in it or potential advantage to be had elsewhere.

  16. Gooner in Exile says:

    Rasp I would also leave Theo up, if I thought we would play the ball through the air from the back like Cech and Van see Saar do.

    More often than not the ball comes out on the floor and we try to retain possession and move forward quickly this invites more problems as their tends to be an abnormally large number of opposition players in our half and we have rushed out of defensive positions.

  17. Geoff Strong says:

    Great post GiE, I’d like to see the stats for set piece goals in the Premier league before and after the changes to the off-side rule.

    Previously if you played a high line and caught just one man off-side you gained a free kick, now it only takes one player to make a well timed run behind with other players offside and you concede.

  18. Geoff Strong says:

    PS totally agree with the Theo staying up comments, drives me nuts.

  19. Gooner in Exile says:

    Smith14

    II is indeed an interesting debate and like I said AW and PR know far more than me.

    I was alerted to the problem of deep defending watching Goals on Sunday with Neville Southall on the sofa. He said how he always liked his area clear, as a goalkeeper I respected I listened and adopted it for the next few games and it certainly changed our goals against from free kicks. Very few people can score a header from 12-18 yards out if the keeper is on his goalline.

  20. Gooner in Exile says:

    I looked for stats they’re very hard to come by.

    Ladyarse has some interesting stats we have conceded more fouls than have been fouled this season.

    Also the Guardian stats page and chalkboard is an interesting look. In the EPL we have conceded as many from open playxas well as set pieces, the perception is we are not good at it so when we are about to defend a set piece the opposition tails are up, we look nervous and appear to breathe a collected sigh of relief when the ball is clear. This further encourages the opposition to continue the tactic, if we started dealing with set pieces in a more comfortable manner opponents would have to look for an alternative.

  21. Wonderman says:

    Hi Rasp
    @10:19 Agreed Song has definitely improved in that respect. I would suggest that we need to show them inside where the support in Song/Cesc/Kosser/Djourou is

  22. Red Arse says:

    I am a high defensive line man as I said above.

    The only reservation I have, which Geoff touched on, is that you have to put a lot of trust in the assistant ref to get the off side calls right.

    To line the defensive wall up outside the penalty area, and then to drop back 5 or 6 metres into the box, as the oppo takes the free kick, seems utterly self defeating to me, but is as predictable as Red Nose showing his oversized watch to the ref!!

  23. mickydidit89 says:

    GiE,
    Wowee, great stuff. You are the analyst supreme. So now could you explain how to improve my gross margins? Thank you.

  24. mickydidit89 says:

    Actually, on a less serious note, I totally agree on the quality and potential of the back four, as well as the lack of team effort defending on occasions, however there is one area I have an issue with. Cover at CB. This season when Squillaci has played, we have conceded 3000 goals, as opposed to 7 when JD has played (I am no stats man, but that is pretty accurate). JD has proved the importance of height in the box, and as soon as Squill was introduced against Newcastle, up went the ball and chaos ensued.

  25. mickydidit89 says:

    Oh here we go again, I arrive, and you all hide! Very immature frankly.

  26. Red Arse says:

    Micky, you are without doubt a figure fiddler supreme. :-)

    3,000 to 7? Surely you meant 30,000 to 7? :-)

  27. mickydidit89 says:

    Me and my maffs, pah!

  28. Geoff Strong says:

    Micky, I agree that height is important, but with that must be coupled the ability to time a jump, Diaby a case in point.

    Early on I never used to notice Squill in matches and I could not work out whether this was a good thing (not making mistakes) or a bad thing (not being there when it matters). It seems from the ‘stats’ you produced it is probably the latter.

    With regard to our relatively good defensive record (goals conceded compared to others), I believe this has a lot to do with the fact that we usually have 60% + possession, so our little ball players do help enormously in that respect. But when that disappears, as it did in the second half at Newcastle, we can be in trouble.

  29. mickydidit89 says:

    I am afraid I need to slither out for a while, but I shall return (sound of thunder and lightning).

  30. mickydidit89 says:

    Geoff, Just quickly. The real stats do support the theory that Squill is a poor stand-in for JD, however, he is a competent stand-in for Kos. I think the goals concede figure is a bit misleading. We are very tight with the riight combination at the the back, but very fragile with the wrong combination. Also, it depends on who we are paying. Squill will be far less vulnerable against Barca than against Wimbledon. Must scoot.

  31. Gooner in Exile says:

    Good points Geoff re possession. Although that hasn’t always helped, Chelsea and Man U last season anyone?

    I think we have a good defencive record despite the attacking football, look at Blackpool, also you would argue that Pulis, Moyes and Fat Sam have coached teams well at defending set pieces but they end up mid table.

    Only Chelsea and Man U can be looked up to in terms of defence and success and as others have pointed our their defences have not come cheap. The wage demands alone would be a stumbling block.

    Chelsea have started to concede from crosses and set pieces but I would put this down to the relative drop in Cechs powers.

  32. Gooner in Exile says:

    On Squilli stats who else has or hasn’t been playing?

    Micky if your first stab at stats is anything like your bookkeeping I’ll not be able to do anything about your margins. ;)

  33. mickydidit89 says:

    GiE,
    And there was me believing you were brilliant!
    I am not here. I have gone to think.

  34. Wonderman says:

    For those stat hungry gooners I found this a few weeks ago, it fits in really nicely with this post and makes interesting further debate. You have to scroll down past ‘assist of the week’

    http://mr-renoog-videos.blogspot.com/

  35. Carlito11 says:

    Wonderman- thanks for that link. Great to see such a thorough analysis and I never would have thought that JD and the Squid was the best pairing this season- although January’s Kozzer +JD stats were not included in the analysis.

  36. Gooner in Exile says:

    Stat-tastic link Wonderman. Very interesting to see stats bear out what we see.

    Squilli red card versus Huddersfield was due to him and Kosser attacking the same ball which probably shows their weakness from similarity.

  37. Rasp says:

    Whilst we’re on the subject of defensive strategies, I’d like to throw another question into the pot…..

    Over the years there have been various reports (from ex-players?) saying that as part of the preparation for a match, we ony concentrate on ‘our game’ and do not analyse the strengths or the weaknesses of the opposition.

    I cannot believe this is the case. Certainly, most teams we play look to capitalise on our perceived weaknesses. I remember us playing all the tall players against Stoke a year or two ago and so many of them were out of position that the balance was all wrong and we still conceded from long throws.

    I suppose that if we could always play as we did in the 1st half against the spuds and toon, analysis of the opposition would be deemed unnecessary. Wenger has a scientific approach to pretty much every other aspect of his management – surely this wouldn’t exclude the opposition’s areas of concern.

  38. Rasp says:

    Great stats….. so it’s official then, Squillaci + Kozzer is the weakest CB pairing but strangely Squillaci + Djourou is stronger than Kozzer + Djourou.

    But these are statistics and there are so many other parameters that effect the outcome, it is only a rough guide and could equally be disproved by including other criteria.

  39. mickydidit89 says:

    Rasp,
    That is not suprising, in that the Squil Kos team is also our shortest. Verm has springs and JD is tall. You clearly need one big ‘un.

  40. mickydidit89 says:

    I think those are wrong, in that Kos and JD is the strongest. I think someone said the stats did not take into account jan, when Kos and JD were fantastic.

  41. Gooner in Exile says:

    Interesting Rasp, I would guess the arrogance of Arsene (as perceived by the Luddites) can be extended to this unwillingness to adapt to opponents strategy.

    He wants to play perfect football and he believes that his vision of football should always win out.

    It made me snigger to hear so many columnists and bloggers say AW had finally got the tactics right to beat Chelsea. There was no difference between our tactics compared to previous encounters but we did manage to get the first goal which had been missing from other meetings, and forced them to play us differently in the second half.

  42. dandan says:

    Does not trust Statistics…….

    statistics, “…like pork pies, are good if you know the person that made them, and are sure of the ingredients.”

    Micki There is always a margin in stats…. If Only for error’s

  43. Wonderman says:

    As I said food for discussion, obviously it doesn’t take into account the quality of opposition facing each pairing , but i thought it was interesting nonetheless

  44. mickydidit89 says:

    dandan,
    I’ve been rumbled!

  45. Big Raddy says:

    It also doesn’t account for who was in the MF. Song is a vital ingredient into any defensive mix, whereas Denilson is not

  46. Big Raddy says:

    As has been said, a defensive cordon of Walcott, Arshavin, Cesc, Denilson, Rosicky, Ramsey or Wilshere is not going to help in an aerial bombardment, One just has to look at how poor Rosicky was on Saturday to see that we need another big unit.

  47. Hi Raddy – did you have any joy getting a ticket for tonights game?

  48. I think you said earlier in the week Raddy that throwing on Nikki or Gibbs would have made some sense – Gibbs particularly in the middle might have been quite useful.

  49. Big Raddy says:

    Peaches. Not yet. I am going up to the Parken now. Might be lucky and find an England fan with a spare.

    I still believe that Gibbs would have been a better alternative than TR, but then I have the wonder of hindsight. AW has tried playing Gibbs in front of Clichy and clearly doesn’t like the result.

  50. London says:

    Every journo who comes on the radio talking about tonights game all say that they expect the ground to be half empty. Do they know what they are talking about? I am not sure.

  51. mickydidit89 says:

    Full report on the Danish pre-match snacks please BR.

  52. Hi London – I don’t know why they should expect that either, isn’t Nik a bit of a hero in Denmark and there are lots of gooners too who’ll get a chance to see Jack and Theo. If I was in Copenhagen I’d want to go – do you think it’s too late :)

  53. According to LadyArse on twitter, Rosexy just scored a goal!!!!!!!!!

  54. A journalist finally speaks out in Diaby’s defence

    http://tinyurl.com/6kfhgyt

  55. Are you all hiding away? Would anyone like to offer to write about tonights game for us?

  56. Gooner in Exile says:

    Nice find Peaches.

    Oh god FatSam is on ITV coverage, what will he be able to tell us?

    “They should go for more restarts, foul and restarts foul and restarts” – bore off.

    Amazingly I have heard Messrs Durham and Gough defending Wilshere amongst phone calls from non Arsenal fans describing LJ as pedestrian, lazy, functional, ordinary midfield player, and we are only excited because he is English. (oh and they also said he makes wild dangerous tackles continually!?!?!)

    Strange then that of all criticisms of performances this season we Arsenal fans have never called into question Wilshere’s role in the downfall, I am always disappointed when he makes way at 60-70 minute mark, and I think an injury to him will seriously hamper the rest of our season. They also never saw him destroy Liverpool in the two legs of the FA Youth Cup final a couple of seasons back. I’m so glad he is at Arsenal.

  57. Gooner in Exile says:

    @peaches I’m not watching….you didn’t see me ;)

  58. As i said ……. you all hiding ;)

    Other teams supporters know nothing of the need for a holding midfielder – they don’t even know about Makele so why should they have any idea about how fabulous our Jack is. Fat Fwank had better watch out cos his place is Wilsheres :)

  59. Gooner in Exile says:

    Inside 5 minutes the players have had the chance to give the ball to Jacks feet, everytime they have looked long, or lost possession because they won’t give a short ball when the player due to receive has more than one man on them.

    I fear playing for England will not suit his style of play, too many hoofers.

  60. Irishgunner says:

    Evening all

    Anything new?

    Hope we get no injuries tonight.

  61. ITV bigging up all Arsenal players :lol:

  62. Hi Irish – are you able to watch Jack teaching Fat Fwank how to ‘stay back when I go forward’ in a way that Stevie G never could ;)

  63. Jack not playing the 2nd half

  64. RockyLives says:

    Late to the party. Good article GiE.
    I do think people are too hard on Squidgy. He got thrown in almost from the beginning playing with a novice partner, both of them new to the EPL, and has struggled a bit. He probably is a bit similar in playing style to Kozzer and it’s unfortunate that he has played most of his games alongside him. If Squilly was alongside Big JD or the Verm I think the partnership would work better. Same for Kozzer.
    I like the idea of trying a defensive high line at set pieces. I’m sure Pat Rice will take note!

  65. London says:

    Hey BR

    I don’t know who it was at the Parken box office that told you that all the Danish tickets had sold out but they were either pulling your leg or they didn’t like the look of your face. The ground is half empty.

  66. Irishgunner says:

    Hiya Peaches – unfortunately not, my internet is slow tonight so couldn’t be getting angry trying to watch it.

    Any good?

  67. harry671 says:

    GIE, Great Article, pretty much agree with all you said, I do get frustrated when so many jump on the band wagon and state Arsenal back 4 are too weak and we need new defenders in. I agree that the back 4 we have is good enough to do the job of we defend as a team when needed.

    The team when under pressure arent tenacious enough when certain individuals arent involved, when Newcastle got their tails up, we didnt have AS< JD< AD on the pitch, we have too many nice players, need an extra aggressive presence at times…..

    Thinking back to an article someone wrote after the everton match when we discussed that we have a resilence now, I argued that there was still a brittleness about us that could surface at any time. There again any tougher on saturday and we would have ended up with 7 men………In the ill fated TW I wanted Samba in, really think he would compliment this team and give us much needed defensive and back up options…….

    Another comment u made GIE was in comments about how we have always played chelsea the same way and people thought we had found a new way to beat them, I agree that we pretty mcuh played the same way previously but hadnt taken our chances at the right time and drogna had been a thorn that always seem to get that slice of luck……..

    I want to see Song and JD play on Satirday and for us to give them a proper spanking, then I'll be up for rest of season with 100% belief……..

    And forget the fact we are playing barca mid week, start with our best available team…….get 6 goals up then make some changes…..

    1GAAT

  68. London says:

    When we won the league at Anfield, you may have noticed that Pat Rice was in the dug out, does anyone know what his job was at the time?

  69. SharkeySure says:

    Top quality read that Mr GiE.

    It is pretty laughable that even after 4 clean sheets in a row prior to THAT GAME we still have to listen to constant drivel about how poor we are defensively.

  70. SharkeySure says:

    “…like pork pies, are good if you know the person that made them, and are sure of the ingredients.”

    Thats top top quality DanDan. Wasn’t the quote about ‘feeding your inner beings’ also one of yours..??

    If not DD’s, does ayone else remember it..??

  71. SharkeySure says:

    Just read Darren Lewis’s article, and thought I was reading a comment from the ‘other site’. The prose and style was pretty poor.

    He repeatedly used the word ‘mullered’. Lol. I half expeced to read a ‘gertcha cow son’ before the end of the article.

    In fairness to him, its a decent attempt at redressing the balance, and we should be grateful. So to Darren I say – well done mi old cockasparra and keep up the good work !!!

  72. SharkeySure says:

    “mickydidit89 says:
    February 9, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Oh here we go again, I arrive, and you all hide! Very immature frankly.”

    Brilliant !!!

    Nite all

  73. Gooner in Exile says:

    @London pretty sure he was youth or reserve team manager back then

  74. Gooner in Exile says:

    According to wiki he was Youth team coac 1984-1996

  75. Rasp says:

    What the hell’s going on????

    Capello ‘bigs up’ Jack before the game and heaps the pressure on him. Jack had a really good 45 minutes, 93% pass completion, good tackles, showed for the ball and played with assurance – completely overshadowed fat fwank ….. and Capello appears unimpressed in the post match interview and the press/media are saying that he didn’t shine ffs.

    That’s bull. It was a great debut by a 19 year old, he held the team together.

  76. Morning all

    There’s a New Post

  77. Gonna move your post Rasp to the new one

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