Blackburn ….. Would you risk Cesc? – written by BigRaddy

A question to Blackburn supporters. Would you prefer to finish 10th playing the Fat Sam way or 13th playing some entertaining football?

An indication of the success of Fat Sam’s tactics at Blackburn lies in the question marks surrounding the appearance of Fabregas –  in his first full game back do we risk him getting mauled? Undoubtedly Allardyce’s tactics will focus on our playmakers and their ability to perform under great physical pressure. We can expect rotational fouling, badgering of the referee, the soundtrack of “Same old Arsenal always cheating” accompanying Colin Lewin onto the field as he tries to patch up a prone player who has been assaulted by a less talented but more aggressive opponent.

It is Allardyce’s contention that football is not about the ball, it is about the man. Blackburn have little chance  of success playing expansive football (if they could) but they can bully us into submission. Their primary goal scoring opportunities will come from set plays where they will surround our GK and hope to intimidate our defence. It has worked in the past and should it work on Saturday, we can expect a whole season of lesser teams practising the same.

However, we need to win games like this and we can.  I would play Cesc, Theo and Rosicky, as we will win through guile, pace and skill.

As to the Blackburn team, should he play, look out for Biram Diouf (not the hissy spitting one), on loan from Man Utd and a forward in form. Gamst Pederson is still there (god knows why) and will pepper our box with long throws. David Dunn is a typical Allardyce player  and has a nasty knack of scoring against us.

Apart from the 4000 holes what can I tell you about Blackburn?  Carl Fogerty was born there, as was James Hargreaves, the inventor of the spinning jenny. Gandhi visited on his tour of England, and Blackburn has the highest percentage population of Muslims outside of London. Not much to show for 700 years of history!

A big game for us and an indicator of how the season may progress

COYRRG

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89 Responses to Blackburn ….. Would you risk Cesc? – written by BigRaddy

  1. Rasp says:

    Morning all,

    Fine pre-match analysis Raddy.

    Of course we have to play Cesc – we don’t want the cloggers to think we’re afraid of them.

    At the moment the bookies don’t fancy us for the prem or the CL. If we put in a strong winning performance today, the odds will tumble. I’m happier being the underdog.

  2. dandan says:

    Fine article BR. Although I think Diaby will replace AA and EE for Tomas is also more likely I feel.

    Today will teach us much about Kos and his mental qualities so a fascinating day lies ahead

    Big Al could go either way depression and self doubt rendering him a liability or desperation to take this chance may make him gamble, now that would be interesting if it came off.

  3. Baltimor says:

    No. I’d throw Wilshere in there to kick them like a Good English Lad.

  4. Ghana-Gunner says:

    A goalkeeper? Lol Solid line-up though

  5. g0on3r says:

    wenger wont mind to play fabregas. simply because song and diaby will be there to protect our maestro.

  6. Rasp says:

    Morning dandan,

    Its obvious that Blackburn are going to target Almunia. We have to play with intelligence and restrict the number of corners and freekicks conceded by pressing high up the pitch. In kozzer and TV we have 2 of the quickest CB’s in the country, I don’t think B’burns forward line is renowned for its pace.

    I can’t see Almunia coping at all well today, but hopefully the CB’s will keep tight and more importantly we’ll keep the ball, and take our chances.

    I don’t want to see Diaby playing today despite his size because his passing can be sloppy and he gives the ball away in dangerous areas. Song will be very important for us.

  7. dandan says:

    Rasp I sent you an email you may find interesting

  8. John F says:

    What a terrible article. We’ll struggle today i think but hopefully we can still come out on top. Gotta start RVP, Fabreagas doesn’t really matter

  9. London says:

    Morning all

    I agree with your logic Rasp but my call is that Wenger will start with Diaby over Cesc, should be interesting.

    Superb read as ever BR

  10. London says:

    Morning John F

    We have a section above called “Be our guest” do you fancy having a go at writting a headline post yourself?

  11. dandan says:

    John F and your problem is?

  12. Rasp says:

    Morning London, I’m sure you’re right

    Morning John F – I’m sure you’re wrong

    Morning dandan,
    Thanks, that’s a brilliant article. Its rather too long to paste into a comment, I may take out a few salient paragraphs.

  13. London says:

    Wow, I love matchdays, I am so excited, can’t wait.

  14. Rasp says:

    Like this …..

    The character of the English game still involves vigour and aggression and demands that skilful players display bravery before being allowed, sometimes grudgingly, to prevail. That is why the anti-diving movement began here and remains strong despite the arguments of those who believe that most so-called diving is self-protection or an attempt by creative players to draw attention to the various forms of cheating habitually practised by destroyers, including pushing, pulling and intimidation.

    A brief history lesson may help to explain. Yes, the English invented football, but the original laws framed something that was as much a fight as a game and it was not until the Scots turned their minds to it that it became more civilised. It was they — and, my, how times have changed — who began to civilise the game by devising such concepts as dribbling and passing. Many English players and spectators, to be fair, could see the advantages of blending them into the fray.

    Then the Central Europeans took the lead, adding sophisticated tactics in the decades leading to the lesson administered by Hungary at Wembley in 1953. By then the beauty of the game was internationally recognised and in a hat-trick of ensuing World Cups — 1958, 1962 and 1970 — the Brazilians defined it. Football was complete. And England was still an island. Its game was influenced by everything that had happened in the world. But it was still different.

  15. Rasp says:

    and this …..

    In some ways, it is the best. An essential element of football as a spectacle is a crowd and in England the game is uniquely crowd-driven. In other countries, this tends to happen only in derby matches and other special fixtures. The greater pace and intensity, to which foreign players no longer refer much because it is so widely recognised, are demanded by those who pay. Inspiration works both ways and it is a noble tradition, one in which referees have been brought up. They like to let the game flow.

    It does, however, lead to problems when the thin line between endeavour and violence is crossed with impunity and this was the subject, I felt, that Arsène Wenger addressed when he described Sébastien Squillaci, his new French signing, as “suited to the English game” and went on to accuse fellow Barclays Premier League clubs such as Blackburn Rovers, whom Arsenal visit today, and Stoke City of using tactics more appropriate to rugby than football.

    Wisely, and freely, he conceded the value of tactical diversity and concentrated on a match last weekend that I, too, found disturbing in that Stoke physically targeted Heurelho Gomes, the Tottenham goalkeeper, during set-piece situations close to goal where, in most footballing countries, a goalkeeper would expect reasonable protection.

  16. Rasp says:

    and this …. ;)

    A lot of this happens in England and Gomes suffered so much when he came to England from the Netherlands that he became widely regarded as a bad buy: a judgment that has been reversed. But other players have endured manifestations of the island race such as reckless (rather than vindictive) tackling: Eduardo da Silva, the Arsenal striker whose leg was badly broken in a match against Birmingham City, has been sold and Aaron Ramsey, also of Arsenal, faces a long battle for fitness after an encounter with Stoke.

    So it is understandable that Wenger should be passionately opposed not so much to managers who accentuate the physical — the likes of Stoke’s Tony Pulis and Blackburn’s Sam Allardyce are entitled to mix their games as they wish — but an environment, including a refereeing establishment, that permits threats to the beauty and dignity of the game.

    Wenger has done more for the former than the latter; his moaning, although usually well directed, is not always so, even when Arsenal have lost fair and square. But the complaints of the host of talented players and managers who have come from abroad, tried to integrate (no wonder, when there is so much money on offer) and yet found something ugly in the remnants of the pioneers’ hacking game deserve to be heeded.

    Wenger apart, they tend to sigh in private. It has, nevertheless, become their game, too. English football owes a vast debt to Wenger and a constructive hearing from referees would be a good start. He is right and they are wrong.

    ..

  17. Rasp says:

    All the above attributed to Patrick Barclay

  18. Red Arse says:

    Morning Guys and Gals. :-)

    Lovely read to start the morning Big Raddy. :-)

    Rasp, I think Patrick Barclay has modelled his style on yours! :-) :-)

  19. tommystout says:

    Arsenal have a few friends in the press Patrick Barclay is respected.
    Good piece Braddy – what does COYRRG stand for … come on you?

  20. Rasp says:

    I taught him everything he knows Red Arse :P

    Morning Tommy

  21. Red Arse says:

    Rasp, BG,

    There is a peculiar machismo british attitude that illegally kicking, pushing or pulling smaller more skilfull players into submission is somehow manly or virile, rather than the simple cheating of the morally bankrupt.

    Cue Fat Sam!!

    Whatever the origins of this proclivity to violence, the game’s originators decided that, rather than allow the players to take this violence to its logical conclusion of outright warfare, they would appoint an arbitrator or referee.

    Why then do we feel the need to worry every time we play a physically strapping, if skillfully inept team like Blackbum?

    Simples! The referees do not do their job. The rules state that no contact is permitted by the opposition on a GK. Que? But god help the GK who trips or pushes a forward or is suckered by a simulated dive. (Rooney?). The GK’s punishment, even where no injury is suffered, is brutal and immediate. Red card, hot bath, goodbye.

    There is a place in football for all sorts of players and teams; big, small, skilfull, lumbering, but there is no plave for unwarranted violence.

    The game’s administrators need to look again at the referees skewed interpretation of the Footie Laws.

  22. Rasp says:

    Red Arse,

    I’m off to play cricket in a minute so shall miss the match – I do hope your words are not prophetic.

    I don’t have time to find it now but I wrote a post on that subject some months ago and others (chary in particulaR) have written about the lack of protection from refs.

    I do hope we will not be bemoaning another game where the cloggers have assaulted the artistes and been allowed to get away with it.

  23. tommystout says:

    Morning Rasp , RedA,
    looking forward to the game…. just hope that Ref has taken heed of the rugby advice from Mr Wenger..
    with this fixture i always remember Pedersons dive…. i have never seen a more blatent dive than that one.

  24. Red Arse says:

    Enjoy the cricket Rasp. :-)

    I cannot believe how well Broad and Trott have turned the Test around. Crikey! :-)

  25. kelsey says:

    Arsenal XI: Almunia, Sagna, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Clichy, Fabregas, Song, Diaby, Walcott, Van Persie, Arshavin
    Subs: Fabianski, Gibbs, Eboue, Wilshere, Rosicky, Chamakh, Vela

    well i didn’t expect that especially mozart and chamakh on the bench.

  26. Rasp says:

    Broad has achieved something his father never did – got his name up in the Long Room at Lords, and for his batting. If he also takes 5 wickets in the future at THoC, he’ll join a very select band of cricketers.

  27. kelsey says:

    I am a bit like 10CC: I don’t like cricket ;)

  28. Red Arse says:

    Kelsey,

    It’s probably the way they rub their legs together! :-)

  29. London says:

    My guess at the team selection was way off……

  30. kelsey says:

    I hope i eat my words, but this team is strange, why drop Mozart especially who was outstanding last week and Chamakh needs games like these. Oh well, we will see.

  31. 26may1989 says:

    So Kelsey, you won’t care too much that Stuart Broad has just gone for 169, bringing to an end one of the greatest number 9 batting performances?! I may be flicking a bit between SS1 and SS2 today….

    Interesting line-ups at Ewood Park, looks like Wenger is looking for a balance between strength and guile in midfield, and that he likes van Persie’s record against Blackburn. Blackburn look very light in midfield, but am still pleased to see Chris Foy is the ref, one of the better ones around on a day we need a solid ref.

  32. 26may1989 says:

    Good start, Rovers are looking slow, our lot are sharp in the first few mins. Diaby was unlucky not to score there.

  33. 26may1989 says:

    League Cup 3R: Spurs v Arse!!!!!!

  34. kelsey says:

    this won’t be pretty, it will interesting how much time is added for the towel cleaning.

    sorry 26thMay, I have never followed cricket.

    Theo needs the ball, i am sure he will cause havoc.

  35. 26may1989 says:

    THEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  36. 26may1989 says:

    Come on Waddle and Hansen, where are you now??!

    Koscielny, Vermaelen, Almunia and Song have had to work very hard, and have done well, but we can absorb this pressure and hit them again later. Rovers are going to get tired, we will get other chances.

    And towels for throw-ins should be banned, why should players be allowed to use any equipment during play?

  37. 26may1989 says:

    Koscielny absolutely kippered there, he’ll have to learn to do better than that.

  38. Irishgunner says:

    I should be more concerned with our defending – but what the HELL did Song do to his hair :?

  39. 26may1989 says:

    Has to be a dare, no other explanation is possible.

  40. kelsey says:

    Kos is definitely having a hard time and cesc is extremely quiet. I said all week I felt RVP wasn’t quite fit.

    I repeat,get the ball to Theo, it worked once why not twice.

  41. Irishgunner says:

    “The latest on Robin van Persie, by the way, is that his ankle – not the one he injured last year – has swollen up and it is being iced as we speak. Scan on Monday.”

    More great news :roll:

  42. kelsey says:

    still a winable game but diaby and arshavin and fabregas need to get a bit more involved.the first two seem to drift in and out a bit too much for my liking.

    so it’s spurs away in the CC ;)

  43. Irishgunner says:

    Bring on Super Tom, he’ll change the game for us.

    I wonder what team AW will put out for the CC considering its the spuds?

  44. kelsey says:

    irish,

    is it me or is cesc just going through the motions.

  45. 26may1989 says:

    At least Diaby has come into the game at points, we’ve not seen a lot from Fabregas. I’d like to see us holding possession and spreading the ball around – the pace of the game suits Blackburn a bit better than it does us, and it’s noticeable that, while we’ve had more of the possession, not much of it has been in the attacking third. If Fabregas can’t pick his game up and dictate the pace, I’d like to see Rosicky come on.

  46. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    I’ve got one word to say about Alex Song

    “Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa”

  47. tommystout says:

    welcome to the prem Mr Kozzer

  48. Irishgunner says:

    Its not just you Kelsey

    Cesc has played one nice ball I think, he’s not injured or anything so there is no need for his lack of enthusiasm….

  49. 26may1989 says:

    Well played the Russian and Fabregas. Let’s see what happens next…..

  50. kelsey says:

    That Andy Gray talks some shite,why can’t he just concentrate on the game,not give his opinions on what maybe with our players.

  51. kelsey says:

    I think Song is on the X factor performing a 70’s disco hit :)

  52. kelsey says:

    was cesc tired or not that bothered ?

    I can’t understand why they don’t give theo more of the ball,he is the biggest threat.

    chamakh looks class as well.

  53. tommystout says:

    1 minute 40 secs in to injury time and i just wish, so wished that clichy had taken time to dry the ball before he took his throw in!!! :-)

  54. 26may1989 says:

    Good, controlled second half performance. Shame LJ didn’t finish it off but all good in the end. Blackburn were poor in the second half, no real pressure. Would love to have Chris Samba in our side though…

  55. Irishgunner says:

    Wooohooo

    Hard earned 3 points.

  56. kelsey says:

    Not perfect but no complaints really.Second half dispay in defence especially was pretty solid.Still wish we would shoot more.

    Song,Walcott my two main contenders for man of the match.Diaby showed more energy than usual and arshavin took his goal well.
    Thank god we don’t have to play teams like that every week.Still only third game in and 7 from 9 is a good start.
    You may laugh but I wouldn’t mind another attacker in the squad who shoots on sight.

  57. dandan says:

    Cesc looked tired to me Kelsey,3 nice points, Fat Sam wasnt happy his mate, old red nose will be well peed off too.
    LJ will get his chance against spuds first team in CC. will also be a chance for AW to see DJ and our new man play together in defence

  58. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Hard fought win that, & @ a civilised time as well :) That is the sort of effort that makes me believe.

  59. kelsey says:

    Fat Sam ate and drank right through the match and even drank during his interview.

    Having seen the replay jack really should have scored.
    dandan, i hope you are right about Cesc,to me he looks disinterested as he did last week.

  60. Irishgunner says:

    I hope Jack scores one soon cos he fluffed his chance against Blackpool too last week, things like that could play on his mind – like when Chamackh scored right after that awful miss last week it mus have been a weight off his shoulders.

  61. Mayank says:

    Misplacing passes is not what you do when you’re sulking. I don’t think Cesc was. He lacked fitness and had a poor touch, just the after effects of not having a pre-season. He ran about as much as he normally does, just wasn’t very effective.

  62. Red Arse says:

    Kelsey,

    Jack’s right foot slipped as he went to shoot. Pity.

    I am really chuffed by that performance and am trying to be picky but it is difficult.

    Diaby is really skilfull but runs out of steam at about 70 mins; Cesc needs more games for match fitness, and Clichy still can’t defend, but is good going forward, and finally Kosser will beef up and get more on the pace the more games he gets.

    Excellent result! :p:

  63. kelsey says:

    Red Arse,

    usually I would agree with you about Diaby but he actually came strong in the last 15 minutes.

    Arshavin is our berbatov, a brilliant luxury player who has a lack of stamina for a full 90 minutes,but to give him credit he was in his own area helping out the defence in the time added on.
    2 week break will be good for us and there is some more steel about our defence.kos who really was to blame for the first goal showed mental strength ;) after half time.

  64. RockyLives says:

    Let’s not start getting into a ‘Cesc’s heart isn’t in it’ thing.
    We’ve seen in past seasons that it takes him a while to get into his groove – and while he’s trying to find it he can sometimes look quite ordinary. Some of his passing and control today was poor (particularly first half) but I thought he was a driving influence in the period up to Arshavin’s goal. Not everything worked for him but you could see the will. Let’s remember, they’re not an easy team to play against.

  65. Red Arse says:

    Kelsey,

    I suppose what I meant was that Diaby was fluent and strong early on and got back well in defence.

    Later on he was still running but his accuracy and fluency was not so evident late on.

    Being picky, I know. I am a big fan and given more consistency he is going to be great.

  66. RockyLives says:

    Diaby did a good headed clearance from a corner in the dying minutes. It was one of those ‘oh no, here we go,’ moments but he got up well at the near post and got it well clear.
    Small point, but his heigt definitely helped.

  67. RockyLives says:

    No Schwarzer again for Fulham.
    I trust Kelsey – the big Ocker is definitely coming.

  68. dandan says:

    Yes kos was to blame for the goal, he got caught out for pace and missed a tackle. He must be astonished at how frantic it is each week. We made to many square passes in the first half, song in particular was guilty of that.
    Theo was first rate again, RVP I am afraid is sadly injury prone and we will need Bendy fit as soon as possible as cover for him and Chamack. Our keeper did OK today, although I still think we will sign the Aussie
    All round a professional performance from the boys and something to build on as fitness levels grow.

  69. thelittlemozart says:

    in your face, hansen!!

  70. Irishgunner says:

    AHAHAHAHAHA at the spuds :lol:

  71. rockylives says:

    Be fair Irish, they were up against the mighty Wigan. A Spud acquaintance was telling me this week that they were going to go one better than last season against Wigan and reach double figures!
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  72. rockylives says:

    Couldn’t help glancing at a Spuds site and guess what? They’re blaming the result on a ‘Champions League hangover’.
    Hangover? From a comfortable home win?
    They really have absolutely no idea, do they?

  73. dandan says:

    Dont laugh to loud, remember Wigan and us last year.

  74. gunnern5 says:

    Typical; United just got their obligatory penalty at Old Trafford!!!

  75. kelsey says:

    AT the beginning of the season I would have taken 4 ponts from the 2 away games.

    I never believed Theo would make the grade, but the summer break, a bit of bulking up and a renewed confidence makes him a most dangerous player for us.Only 2 games but the signs are there.

    Apparently RVP has a twisted ankle.

    I don’t want to get into a debate about Cesc as time will tell, but if Nasri hadn’t been injured cesc may not have even started today.

    All in all the defence looks tighter and bare in mind that Song is hardly match fit.

    I hope the two week break benefits us before the bolton game and it is feasable that Kos and Sqiggy will interchange and Djorou will be the third choice.

  76. London says:

    Diaby was my man of the match.

  77. London says:

    With Almunia, Sagna and Walcott all close behind.

  78. London says:

    There were two parts to the team today: the fit half and the almost fit half.

    Song, Fabregas, Van Persie were not fit and played below their capabilities. Song improved in the second half.

    Almunia, Sagna, Clichy, Vermaelen, Diaby, Chamakh, Walcott were all fit and it was they who won the game this afternoon.

    Arshavin……who knows? He is in a world of his own, one minute he seems so disinterested, almost as though his mind has wandered onto what he is going to say in his blog tomorrow then up he pops to save the day. I wish he would show some pleasure in scoring. I wonder how he would feel if nobody cheered when he scored?

  79. kelsey says:

    apparently almunia threw his shirt and captain’s armband into the crowd.

  80. London – did you see I sent you a very nice email ;)

  81. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    This via Sydney Morning Herald

    Mark Schwarzer’s prospects of securing a move to Arsenal have skyrocketed as transfer speculation launched into overdrive before Tuesday’s deadline.

    The stand-off between the 37-year-old Socceroos goalkeeper and Fulham looks set to resolved shortly with Craven Cottage boss Mark Hughes indicating the south-west London club was chasing Manchester City goalkeeper Shay Given.

    “Mark Schwarzer has made it clear that he would like to go to Arsenal so we are trying to look at other options,” Hughes said following his side’s 2-2 draw at Blackpool on Saturday.

    “I’m always interested in quality players and Shay Given is a quality player. Make of that what you will.

    “But I have said that if we can’t get anyone else in, Schwarzer will have to stay.”

    Meanwhile the Daily Mirror said that Hughes was also lining up a STG2 million ($A3.5 million) bid for another Australian goalkeeper in Reading’s Adam Federici before the transfer window closes.

    Like Schwarzer, 24-year-old Federici is reportedly out of contract at the end of the season.

    Both Fulham and English championship side Reading might be keen to cash in before both players become free agents next year.

    Schwarzer has sat out Fulham’s opening three English Premier League matches of the season with an apparent back injury since Australia’s 2-0 loss in Slovenia earlier this month.

    It has been reported that Arsenal have upped their opening two bids for Schwarzer to around the STG3 million ($A5.25 million) mark.

    With Joe Hart establishing himself as the No.1 stopper at Manchester City, Ireland ‘keeper Given is desperate to find a club that will hand him more regular top-flight action.

    Cash-rich Manchester City might be reticent to allow one of their major rivals in Arsenal a leg up by allowing Given a move to north London.

    But loaning him out to Fulham might be more appealing, even if the men from Craven Cottage have been on the march in recent times.

    Schwarzer’s stand-in David Stockdale, who injured his ankle in the Blackpool clash, has impressed so far this season but Hughes is wary of being caught short out at the back so early in the season.

    If the former Middlesbrough man makes the move to Arsenal, Schwarzer will become the second Australian behind John Kosmina to play for the Gunners.

    Kosmina played four games in his short stint at the famous club during the late 1970s, three of those performances coming off the bench.

  82. rockylives says:

    Thanks Gnarley. This looks like it has legs now.

  83. barumgooner says:

    I thought it was a good performance. Kos started slow and had me worried for a bit but got better as the game went on. Almunia was solid and had a good game. I’ve never seen Cesc make so many poor passes but I dont believe there was anything in it more than being off the pace and having a bad day. Theo the star again for me but Diaby did well also and didnt get caught on the ball so often. I think AW must have given them a rollicking at half time.

  84. kelsey says:

    Well summed up barumgooner,though it’s hard work being a supporter.Pulse rate goes up, blood pressure ditto and the nails are chewed to the bone.

    If only we could put games to bed a little more emphatically, instead of watching the seconds count down as so many of us are never quite sure that the game is in the bag.

    Wenger will look carefully at the goal we conceded.It wasn’t a punt but a well orchestrated attack which should have been dealt with by three players,the last being Kos. It wasn’t pretty to watch and there is no other word for it than poor defending.

  85. barumgooner says:

    Spot on Kelsey we do seem to lack the killer instinct to really finish games off. It was definately a game of two halves yesterday, too many players not concentrating in the first half but much more composed after the break and showed our class.

  86. barumgooner says:

    I’ve got tickets for the Bolton game. It’ll be our first trip to the Emirates so I will be hoping for a goal fest that day.

  87. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    No worries rocky, & all,

    I bought a 1970’s Arsenal shirt with number 9 on the back from Toffs. Just like the one in my avatar, well long sleeves anyway. Bloody fantastic service, & excellent shirt. It completes me :D

  88. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    The Arsenal manager enraged Tony Pulis when claiming his Stoke side employed “rugby” tactics.

    Pulis revealed letters have been sent to the Premier League and the FA and that Stoke were considering their options after Wenger alleged Shawcross and Robert Huth had kicked Spurs keeper Heurelho Gomes.

    Pulis fumed: “What he said about Ryan was poor.”

    What this means is that Pulis is this seasons Brown (Hull), who will take his side down.

  89. Morning all

    Theres a NEW POST

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