Arsenal get it wrong again.

The closing of the transfer window at midnight on the 31st of August is still over a month away. Yet the football blogs are awash with disconsolate fans, convinced in their own minds, that the fact that their club has not yet purchased the top player they believe is indispensable, is proof positive that the club or manager lack ambition.

Arsenal are a case in point, having just paid £8.5 million for a centre half that had been scouted and watched continuously for months by the same people who had  evaluated and recommended Thomas Vermaelen for AW. We immediately find our new man is derided as not good enough, supposedly lacking class, not the world-beater the club needed. These opinions based mainly on the amount of money paid for the player. The argument being, if he was any good he would have cost more and of course it also proves no one else is coming in because AW wouldn’t spend that much on a back up.  Regardless of the fact that at this level football is a squad game.

Mind you TV himself, quoted by many judges as the best PL buy of last year, is, according to these blogging super coaches part of the problem. He isn’t big enough even if he has a big jump, he is easily knocked off the ball by bullying centre forwards and needs a giant next to him for protection at set pieces. I would love one or two of these guys to tell him  that to his face. He doesn’t look a pushover to me.

In thinking about this I am reminded of Brian Clough, “Cloughie” in his heyday loved punters, fans and pundits to tell him what he needed. Rumour has it, that on one memorable day he was informed by a reporter that the  European club they were going to play had a centre forward who was the most deadly header of the ball in the business, “Don’t you worry young man says Cloughie, we have a secret weapon, a young man from a pacific island, he is 7’3” cant kick for toffees but makes his living heading and cracking coconuts as they fall from the tree, how’s your man going to deal with that” says Brian and walks of laughing.

More than a month remains of this transfer window. More business is usually done in the final fortnight than in all the preceding weeks. Personally, I am going to sit back, watch the preseason games, enjoy the silliness on the blogs, TV and radio and await the first of September with anticipation, knowing that the boss is more likely, than probably any other premiership manager to surprise us all with quality players – in his own good time!

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184 Responses to Arsenal get it wrong again.

  1. Rachid says:

    Finally someone blogging with some sense. It sickens me to see all the negativity being spread about by these idiots before a ball has even been kicked in anger at the start of the season.

    Have a look at my blog please:

    http://thearsenalternative.blogspot.com/

  2. Ati says:

    What a horrible post. No point to it, really. No sane Gooner is deriding Koscielny. All that ppl are saying is that just one season in the top flight, combined with his very lightweight appearance means he might not be ready to start every game for Arsenal just yet. And in any case, we NEED another center back, as we have only three at the club – TV, JD, and LK. Nordveidt is too raw, and should play in the Carling Cup only this season.

  3. James says:

    What a load of drivel. Wenger has a history of failing in the transfer market when he’s most needed, that’s why supporters get nervous this time of year. And Vermaelen is not all that great. I thought he was absolutely dreadful against Barcelona, showed no leadership and was positionally all over the place. He needs to improve considerably next season because he isn’t close to the level of our rivals defenders.

  4. gnarleygeorge9 says:

    Blimey am I the 1st. Recent history dandan says that le gaffer won’t bring in a big name, but just coz a player isn’t expensive doesn’t mean he’s no good, true. But a good deal of Arsenal watchers in blog world have a limited period of time to base their theories on who The Club should sign. Its called being wet behind the ears, but try telling them that, they all reckon they are experts. I bet they aren’t as bullish when it comes to spending their own “hard earned” on big investments :lol:

  5. tommystout says:

    Good post DD, i think of all the time i waste each day scouring newsnow, i should take a note out of your book and sit back watch it unfold… we have no control over it and my time is better spent elsewhere.
    I think Kozzer will be the real deal you dont spend millions on somebody that you haven’t vetted out properly. I think Djorou will partner TV initially and whats particularly interesting is that Nordveit is being blooded at right back this preseason which may give us some height in the box for those set pieces that trouble us from the anti-football brigade.

  6. SebCesc says:

    I am sure Koscielny will turn out to be a really good buy but he has to adapt. The player has said it himself. Djourou has had a year out of the game and it would be unfair on him to expect him to get up to Premier League pace straight away so that leaves us with only 1 experienced CB at Premier League level. Our defence was what let us down last year, and I cant see how we are not going to fall into the same trap if we do not invest this year. Its just common sense.

  7. at ati says:

    How can you say nordveit isnt ready. Some players are thrown into the deep end and handle the pressure like. Gibbs, Clichy [a.cole times], fabregas, ramsey.

  8. clockendrider says:

    Nice one Dandan. Expect all the Championship Manager types to emerge from their dank, darkened rooms to pronounce on how good Koscielny isn’t based on their extensive experience of playing computer games interspersed with the kind of furious onanism that could power a small city.
    Still, if it helps them….

  9. Morning Rachid, Ati and James

    Thanks for your comments – this is an open site and the views expressed in the post are those of the author of that post. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of how the transfer window will pan out. There are just as many believers as non-believers as your comments show ;)

  10. Rasp says:

    Morning clockendrider,

    Nothing about your comment but let me compliment you on the use of ‘onanism’ ;)

  11. Rasp says:

    I think Nordveit is as ready as Gibbs and Eastmond. He looked very assured and POWERFUL in the Barnet game.

    He is a more than capable right back who can also play CB and DM. What we don’t know is how he can handle the pressure in the big games – there is only one way to find out……

  12. mjc says:

    James – Is Vermalen is so pants compared to other Prem defenders, how on earth did he make it into the Premiership team of the season?

  13. adrian says:

    This transfer window is not unusual because Arsene seems to get involved in protracted transfer negotiations . Some fans are anxious because of perceived inactivity at arsenal when compared to city’s hyperactive transfer dealings. This has also not been helped by the continuing cesc saga. Fans will have to be patient while Arsene’s transfer strategy unwinds. I am sure he will spend the club’s money wisely, but will also frustrate a lot of arsenal fans.

  14. Although I’m sure a lot of research was carried out before we decided to buy Koscienly and I don’t doubt he could be a real find WE ARE STILL RATHER SHORT OF CB’S and theres no denying that IMO

  15. tommystout says:

    especially if Sol goes to the toon, peaches!

  16. SharkeySure says:

    Hola amigos !!

    Great post DanDan !!

    Is Sol really off to the Toon. Last I heard (Sat?) blogs had him down for re-signing with us

  17. Exactly tommy – there we were thinking at least we had Sol as back-up and now we might not even have him. I do feel that AW will have had a hard time deciding how to address this problem but then thats why he’s the manager.

  18. Morning Sharkey

    NN says he’s having a medical there today :(

  19. George says:

    Another brain washed follower in the Arsene we trust brigade. So we bought a CB, we lost 3!! Last year TV only replaced Toure. Chamakh was brought in to replace Eduardo.
    Can you not see the pattern that has developed over the years with AW policy.
    We DO NOT buy players to supplement what we have. AW is not serious in winning the league. He is under the control of the board. We are 30mil in the black in transfer deals since he took over and I bet the majority of that has been in the last 4/5 seasons. If he was serious in his intentions he would spend some of the “War Chest” that has been mentioned over the last 3/4 years on world class talent and not persevere with crap like almunia, fabianski, denilson and bendtner.
    We need a world class GK, another CB, Ozil @ 15mil and another striker. Without them we’re going to do well to cling on to 4th.

  20. AJ says:

    You are so full of it James.

  21. Alex says:

    Whoever wrote this is an ambitionlacking amateur. Vermaeles is good, yes. But he is far from amongst the best. Look at him agains Manu, Rooney got the best of him every single time. Vermaelens marking leaves a lot to be desired. He also lacks pace and strenght ans he showed agains Drogba and Chelsea, where he was completely dominated. Not to mention agains Barca where every Barca player ran around him as he was a standing pin. Agains the bottom 12 teams, Vermaelen does the job well, against anyone better, he looks like a small bot, he just doesn’t have enough. Same goes for Koscielny i reckon. Not because he cost 8,5m (actually that is way to much!!) but because he played in second division! Wenger get’s what he paid for, a good enough, not the best. THAT is what angers fans, to lack of ambition to be the best, not to settle for good enough. Look at the likes of Mexes, Chielini, Terry, Vidic, Ramos, Pique and Pyuol. They all lack something, whether it’s pace, strenght or skill with the ball, but they more than make up for it with pure mental strenght and determination. Vermaelen looks to give up when the competition gets to hard, that’s why Wenger paid merely half of what Mexes would cost.

  22. 26may1989 says:

    Very well written post, as usual, DD. A measured take in these hysterical, now-now-now times is always welcome.

    A word to James and Ati: you don’t need to shout and abuse people here, so behave will you.

    As it happens, I don’t agree with everything DD says on this one. Yes, Vermaelen was a top signing and did better than any of us predicted (James, I think you’ll find you’re in a minority of one on that issue). And yes, Koscielny may turn out to be a superb signing, I really hope so. But the fact remains, our CB situation was already poor even before we lost Gallas, Silvestre, Campbell (probably) and Senderos (though he had effectively left ages ago). Even with Djourou’s return from injury, we all knew that lots of recruitment work was needed at CB, and that work has been half done with Koscielny’s signing.

    I just don’t think we can afford to assume Koscielny will turn out to be the real deal, he’s only had one season in top flight football after all, and that was at a mid-tier French club. Even if he re-signs, Campbell can’t be counted on for obvious reasons, and I just don’t think Djourou is a natural defender. I have real hopes for Nordtveit but again, there isn’t a convincing case there yet either.

    So all in all, I do think there is a real need to bring in another CB, and one that has the experience and presence to do the job from the off. And if Djourou, Koscielny and Nordtveit can fight for the scraps, so much the better, we’ll end up with a strong CB unit that will cover us for the season.

    But in the end, you’re spot on in saying that we should all be a bit zen about this, and just see what comes. Whatever some of the more OCD-affected readers think, we do have the best manager in the business, and he knows exactly what he’s doing. (And if anyone wants to get into a Wenger debate, come on then!)

  23. Matt says:

    George of the Jungle is another brain washed proponent of the D&G brigade. Its a wonder direct sunlight doesn’t give him fits after the years he has productively spent in a dark dingy basement playing football manager.

  24. 26may1989 says:

    George, I’m trying to find one word in your post I can agree with. Nope, there’s nothing, it’s all nonsense. Looks like you take what the tabloid writers say just a little bit too seriously. Here’s a tip for you: they lie, you know.

    PS: I meant to write “ADD-affected readers” in my post above – bloody auto-correct…..

  25. Bobby says:

    So Alex, what you are saying is – there is a directly proportional relationship between a player’s transfer fee and his quality. Please do use this as your subject in a thesis study for a PHD course. Wow. Can you actually read or hear what you are saying?

    Henry cost us 10.5 million so he obviously cant be as good as Darren Bent who cost 16 million. Bobby Pires cost us 7 million so he obviously cant cross a ball or score goals like David Bentley who the Spuds bought for 16 million. I can go on but what you are saying is so retarded that it would be a waste of my time.

  26. Goonoo says:

    Clockenedrider – Impressive use of ‘Onanism’ criminally underused word!

  27. 26may1989 says:

    Alex, James and Ati are probably just upset that DD’s post didn’t (in their eyes) live up to the headline, which they probably saw on Newsnow and thought “Great, an anti-Wenger blog I can get into.”

  28. Ati says:

    Well, I never said Nordveidt has no potential or anything of the sort, but really, we can’t expect him to perform well against the best teams in the league can we? We can’t think of him as our 4th CB, that’s all I’m saying.

    And really, how can we judge him based on his performance against Barnet?

    I’m not trying to be negative. It’s just that we need another CB, hopefully one in the Campbell mould – Someone physically dominant and good in the air.

    I hope we can get Mertesacker. Not only is he the kind of defender we don’t have, he’s also highly experienced and is a very intelligent player.

  29. Alex says:

    Bobby – I didn’t say that a players quality and his fee are connected. You can get a top african player cheaper than a 2. devision 3rd goalie. Simply because the European market is way to expensive. My point was, that the best well-known defenders, that play in the top flight and have experience, tend to be somewhat indispencible to the club, that’s why they put a gigantic price tag on the to scare off the potencial buyers. I do get Wengers strategy, he doesn’t want to end up paying 16 milliom for a useless english striker, but rather look for a bargain, but his “brilliant” findigs only come once every 4 years. The likes of Henry and Fabregas were great signigns, but look at some others, Denilson, Bendtner, Diaby in the current squad… They were all unknown players that Wenger wanted to turn into stars that still have a lot to prove. Just as TV and the new boy. And look at Jeffers, Cygan, Pennant, Boa Morte and so on. All unknown cheap players, that failed miserabely and now play in lower leagues, if they play at all…. So again, my point is, you can chose to spend a lot of money wisely, like Barca did on David Villa, you can spend a lot of money stupidly, as City does, or you can gamble and get an unknown player cheap and see what he can do. Most of the times, he doesn’t cut it, which is the reasin the player was unknown in the first place… But in the case of Arsenal’s CB situation, there needs to be a purchase done of someone who is already capable of handling himself at the highest level. And that someone doesn’t come cheap!

    Btw, pardon for all the mistakes, I write fast, and am to lazy to read through it before posting…

  30. We value realistic arguments on this site, I believe that this lack of CB cover is a knock-on effect of inactivity with regard to defenders for the past two years. In 2008 we let Senderos go out on loan and bought ………. Silvestre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  31. Rasp says:

    Hi Ati,

    I agree with you as regards Mertesacker, but I am now of the opinion that we won’t be signing another high profile CB. Nordveit was actually covering for kozzer in the Barnet game and winning all his defensive headers. Koscielny will undoubtedly improve and Nordveit is ready to be integrated into the first team.

  32. Silvestre was a short term solution – not a very good one IMO

    Last summer we let Toure go – to help pay off the Highbury Development loan – brought in Vermaelen who was a fantastic buy but still didn’t address the fact that we had Silvestre as cover. Luckily for us Big Sol came to our rescue.

  33. George says:

    Matt and 26 May 1989 (possibly the last time you watched Arsenal).
    I do not read what the tabloids rant on about every day. They are there to make money and most of the time talk rubbish..
    What I have stated are facts not seen in the tabloids but taking from sources published by the club.
    We, as AFC supporters can see clearly every season what goes on at the club in respect of transfers etc. We have lacked in quantity and quality over the years and that is why we have won nowt. The players with “potential” are not ready to carry us to success and AW relies on too many of them
    You cannot disagree that we need a GK & CB (even more so now it looks like Sol is leaving)
    When fabregas leaves who will replace him? RAMSEY I hear you all shout but will he suffer from the “eduardo” syndrome. Wilshire say others, although he is a different type of player to cesc. Then why not get ozil in now in readiness for the departure of cesc (even that news is published in the broad sheet papers!!)
    Matt I don’t see why you need to get personal with your reply to me. It’s sufficient to say that you disagree and voice your opinion.. or is it that your used to posting on forums such as The Sun???

  34. George says:

    ALEX – Not forgetting weah and stepanovs. The list goes on. Money spent on buying lot’s of crap when it could have been spent on the finished article.
    Isn’t it funny that when we do buy a “proven” player they seem to do well a la Arshavin, Nasri and even SOL!!!

  35. Kishy says:

    U say you’re gona watch the pre season friendlies. Does this mean u got arsenal tv online? Do u think it worth it?

  36. JonJon says:

    hi guys..just popped in to say hello and hope your all well..

    dandan i dont really agree..

    ‘mr i can now compete with chelsea and the squad will be sorted before the wc and pre season’ has spent a whopping £2.5 mil net and pre season is almost over..

    kos was playing french league two football 12 months ago and has never played a big game in his life..

    for a squad that lacks the experience in the first place is this lad really the answer??

    im not excited..and wengers doing nothing to change that.. mark schwartzer??? please..

    anyone who thinks spending £2mil on a problem position is losing the plot..

    we are all going to be dissapointed this window..as we are every window..

  37. JOEL says:

    If we have learnt nothing else from the two previous Seasons, we know that Arsenal cannot either match it’s rivals or mount a serious challenge for trophies without greater defensive cover!
    Defensive cover in the form of THREE accomplished Centre Backs-a decent Goalkeeper less prone to costly mistakes- and more than one Central Midfielder,in the squad,capable of tackling back and protecting the back four when required.
    We have to presume that Koscielny is a decent player who will adapt over time to the Premiership.But a year away injured shouldn’t mean that we forget that Djourou isn’t quite up to the mark.Good enough as number four CB but no better.Either Jagielka or Cahill need to be brought in to the squad.Obviously their respective clubs don’t want to sell and their fees will be inflated but either would enhance Arsenal’s defensive capabilities and bring much needed “English” attitude and leadership qualities into the squad.
    With less than a month to go before the start of the Season we are still in the ridiculous situation where our first choice Keepers are also a pair of “clowns”.Neither Almunia nor Fabianski,given their performances of last Season,would be retained by any other Premier League Manager.Both should have been farmed off by now and replaced by a far better back-up pair plus one new signing.Whilst the papers have been quoting all kind of possible targets throughout the Summer we still have no-one new in place.Even David James would have been better than the “two clowns” that we still have.I would have thought that Frey or the Slovnian keeper would be ideally suited to the curreent Arsenal situation but at the moment We’ll just have to wait and hope that Wenger can finally see sense!!

  38. Alex says:

    George – I totally agree. Proven players like Arshavin, Gallas, Sagna, Gilberto Silva etc have been a great boost straight from the kick off. That is what Wenger needs to get in my opinion. I would definitely go for Mexes. As far as I’m concerned, definitely amongst the best. Too expensive though…

    But proven is not allways good. We all saw what prove Silvestre was like. Personally I also am totally against “proven” schwarzer. At his age and with his mistakes, he does not make a much better option that what’s already in the club. I would rather go for Akinfeev. Unfortunately, even though the russian international goalie expressed a wish to move to London, Wenger would never consider signing him as his price tag exceeds the 15-20 million as he is amongst the best rated goalies. But what a fine signing that would be… Dream on…

  39. Hello JonJon – nice to see you :D

  40. Rasp says:

    Hi JonJon,

    Great to hear from you. As you know, the site is for everyone so dandan is expressing his view. Personally I think we need Mertesacker and at least Schwarzer to make the defense solid.

  41. Charlie boy says:

    I think some of the blame for leaking more goals than we ever have under wenger should be on the midfield not tracking back, clichy got blamed time and time again last season for being shit but in actual fact how many times was he marking two players? No one came back to help him out he was all on his own, the midfield needs sorting its defensive duty’s as well and we all know about the gk, no defense in the world could put their trust in those two.

  42. JonJon says:

    hi peaches/rasp..

    im not knocking dandan, everyone is entitled to their view..i just dont agree with it ;)

    Mertesacker yes
    Schwartzer no leave him where he is

    we need players better than what we have already got..not more average players to compete with average players..

  43. Charlie boy – great point about the mid-field sorting out its defensive duties. We used to attack and defend as a team but now we largely do neither. The back four get exposed too many times because the rest of the team allow oppositions to run through us – not very Arsenal if you ask me.

  44. Edmond Dantes says:

    I wanted Mertesacker to be signed for some time now. He was immense in the World Cup. I think he would suit the Premier League quite well. He has been criticised for his lack of speed but he’s tall, experienced and is good positionally.

  45. JonJon says:

    its cos the rest of the team dont want to defend they just like to attack..

    song is the only one capable of defending, denilsons garbage and diaby nasri etc are too lazy to put in a shift..

    but wenger cant see that..he thinks letting our best defender go on a free and replacing him with a player uncapped and untested at any top level is the answer to all our defensive problems..

    hes in cukoo land..

  46. Edmond Dantes says:

    We definitely need a keeper too. Maybe Arsene should go for Neuer. Akinfeev may also be a good choice.

    Personally, I would like Buffon. He would have an instant impact on the team.

  47. irishgunner says:

    I’m very worried about the CB position – we were short last year and have lost 3 since then and only gained 1 who surely can’t be expected to step up to this level as a starter.

    If we buy someone like Jagelika I’ll settle a bit.

  48. JonJon says:

    it dont matter if mertezacker lacks pace..it just means instead of pushing himself u the pitch he will sit back and do the job he is paid to do and defend..

    fast CB’s just push forward all the time relying on pace to get back but they shouldnt be up there in the first place and thats where we go wrong..

    id rather have a slow CB who knows how to defend than a fast cb whos never where he should be at the crucial time..

    chasing the ball like a headless chicken is not the way to defend.. organising your line and staying in position is and mertezacker does that..

  49. Edmond Dantes says:

    I also dont agree with Gallas leaving. Maybe it will bring more stability in the dressing room or whatever. But he’s our best defender.

  50. Who cares whether they want to defend? It was fine when we played proper ‘wengerball’ and were scoring goals on the break then I can understand giving away possesion and not fighting for it back but now we lose possession and panic breaks out…………….. not only amonst the supporters.

    In fairness the panic wasn’t so widespread last season there were times when the oppo had a corner that I didn’t have the churning in my stomach.

  51. JonJon says:

    weve been short on CB’s the last 3 years irish and we’ve got rid of about 6 and got just 2..

    ones the next keown but ones the next cygan and its got to the point where wenger needs a kick up the arse because after last season if we dont buy a new keeper and another top quality CB AT LEAST wenger will get lynched..

  52. Hi irish – I agree the lack of CB’s is very worrying :(

  53. JonJon says:

    we could still defend though peaches even when we played proper wengerball..

    sol would sit back and organise and kolo would do as he was told..vieira and gilberto would protect..the rest bombed forward..we always set out to outscore the oppo butwe were safe at the back

    now its just like we play plaground football and everyone chases the ball at the same time..

  54. JonJon – you’re right, I’ve already posted today that this has been an ongoing problem for the last 2 years. Very poor planning I’m afraid.

    If we start playing like we want to score loads of goals then maybe it’ll still work out – but its a dodgy template IMO

  55. JonJon says:

    apart from diaby who cant be arsed and denilson who can’t keep up

  56. …….which is a shame because it was a great template :lol:

  57. irishgunner says:

    JonJon – Agree with that.

    On Gallas he was our best defender for maybe 2 seasons but even at that he was also a liability. RTÉ did a package of him where instead of defending he was shouting his head off (once at Djourou while a free-kick was in progress) and another time he was mouthing to no-body after giving away a freekick, hardly someone to learn from.

    Do we have a defensive coach?

  58. JonJon says:

    wenger has known the problems for years..but he neglects them every window hoping for the best and the fact he still gets top 4 is the template for his decision..

    but we should be going for the title…we are so unambitious its unbeleivable and i wish wenger would grow a pair..

  59. truegooner says:

    jonjon when you say that some of our players are lazy have you got any stats to back up your statement, such as ground covered in a game by non lazy players just to show us the difference otherwise many may feel that your statement is a load of rubbish

  60. tommystout says:

    that would be my question IG…

  61. JonJon says:

    true gooner..
    i dont need stats mate ive watched denilson get out paced by the referee for the past 3 seasons and if you look in the dictionary diabys picture is next to the definition of lazy..

  62. tommystout says:

    why did keown leave the defensive coaching role? anyone?

  63. Have you watched Djourou? He was scary against Barnet – he got himself into trouble a couple of times by playing tippy tappy football in the area instead of clearing the ball – doesn’t inspire confidence.

  64. truegooner says:

    jonjon from what I have read the average amount of ground covered in a game is about 11.5KM how much less than this do our lazy players do?

  65. JonJon says:

    wenger told him to go..he didnt like keowns way of coaching..the no nonsence, no pampering style didnt fit in with wengers philosophy of blowing smoke up shit players arses so he told keown to go..

  66. Edmond Dantes says:

    If Arsenal can be defensively solid this season then I can see us winning something. Without that its just going to be more of the same unfortunately.

  67. irishgunner says:

    Tommy – I don’t think we have one at the moment and if we do its kept very quiet, probably cos he’s a bit shit at his job.

    As for the team defending – there is a great clip on youtube when we played Fulham in 07/08 season of Rosicky and Eduardo defending high up the pitch and winning the ball back.

    I’m one who thinks that the actually Barcelona defenders as individuals are terribly overrated but they defend so well as a team that they rarely get caught out.

  68. Edmond Dantes says:

    Wenger believes in the players more than they believe in themselves

  69. JonJon says:

    JD never inspired confidence before last year..so i doubt he will this year

    true gooner i dont care what you read i know what i saw..

    look no further than the NLD where we got out fought out battled out worked and it wasnt for the first time that season either..

  70. Alex says:

    The best solution would be to get a hard worker in the midfield area next to cesc. Somone like Fletcher. Although I hate that sctottish prick, he is very important part of the ugly playing united side. He runs and runs, that’s what we need. Diaby can stay as a substitue, seing how good he is every 10th game, he should only play 4 games a season. Denilson has to go, useless as he is. Get a good GK, get rid of Fabianski and Almunia. That, together with the Denilson sale would generate som cash. Bendtner is not needed now that Chamackh is here, that could bring some cash. As far as I can see, the cash generated by those sales, plus what Wenger has to spend originally would be enough to bring in Mexxes, Akinfeev and De Rossi/Inler/Melo or whoever is an engine in the midfield

  71. truegooner says:

    Jonjon as I thought another rant by someone about the players who actually has nothing to back up their nonsensical argument, if you do the reseach you may be suprised, our players arent lazy only in the minds of a few self opinionated bigots

  72. JonJon – is Diaby lazy or just a bit dim? He’s had some cracking games and been a joy to watch – at times he was Vieira and Henry rolled into one – whats up with him really? How can a manager allow a player to be lazy?

  73. irishgunner says:

    Sometimes you just need to hoof the ball. Clichy did it against Wigan two seasons back – is it worrying I remember that clearly?

  74. dandan says:

    Good afternoon all, This post came about because I had a telephone chat a few days ago with Peaches when we agreed that the headline gets hits, but content gets comment so I set out to write a post to prove that,

    Now firstly where in my article did I say we didn’t need another centre back, regulars on this site will know I am in fact confident AW will sign another CB. If you go back and reread the post you will find that my point was posters were taking kossers signing as meaning we wouldnt sign anyone else.

    I also said I would sit and watch who he got in, in the last two weeks a GK will be part of that to I feel.

    Mind you it has been nice to learn at my age I can still be brainwashed and am an Amateur, after 40 odd years as a professional manager it is good to feel I have returned to my roots. LOL

  75. Rasp says:

    Neither Diaby or Denilson are lazy per se. Denilson does cover a lot of ground but he is not built for the DM role. Diaby is built for the DM role until you reach his head. His moments of brilliance are instinctive, but his reading of the defensive side of the game is poor – square pegs!

  76. JonJon says:

    Dandan

    i think wengers done signing players and thats where i disagree with you..

    i dont think we’ll see anyone else..we can sit back and wait all we want but wengers done what he set out to do and thats it..

  77. truegooner – stats don’t always tell the story though do they – they can be used to prove a point but often they just add fuel to a compromise. We all know that Denilsons stats are fantastic and I agree he does what he’s told to do but not in a very creative way and we are Arsenal and Arsene Wenger is our manager and creative play should be what we’re about.

  78. irishgunner says:

    I think Bastain Schweinsteiger would suit us so well – great in attack and defense, he’s what we need in midfield imo.

  79. Do you irish – have you mentioned Schweinsteiger before :lol:

  80. JonJon says:

    diaby doesnt care if he hassnt got the ball at his feet he cant work for 90 minutes going forwards or backwards every game is a training seshion

    denilson may not be actually lazy, but hes not good enough and he looks lazy because once the play is behind him he cant keep up..

    its the same old story..just hit a 30 yard through ball through arsenals midfield and your in at goal cos all of them are out of position and more than half cant get back..

  81. Rasp says:

    Hi irish,

    Schweinsteiger, if only – are you off with the leprechauns again? :lol:

  82. irishgunner says:

    Don’t think so Peaches … today :oops:

    He’s great though.

  83. arsenal fan says:

    wenger cannot handle big name players is as simple as that thats why there has been only one big signing in 5 years(arhavin i think) if we dont win AW really should leave otherwise we wont win anything

  84. irishgunner says:

    Rasp – Schweinsteiger is this season’s Benzema :oops: I can but dream.

  85. JonJon says:

    bastians a quality player but wenger will take no pride in signing a player he hasnt made world class himself and he wont spend the money to get him cos denilson will need an extention to his 100 year contract next summer..

  86. Rasp says:

    JonJon,

    It is a very good point that some of our players don’t know how to play positionally when we don’t have the ball. The continental pass-and-go (Barca) style of football means that as one player closes down the player in possession, others must track his passing options.

  87. Its an interesting theory that AW can’t handle big-name players – he certainly has handled big name players in his time at the club. I’m sure there’s a lot of grief attached to buying a prima donna and maybe thats what he can’t be bothered with.

    Even Arshavin gives us all grief with his stuff on his web-site :roll:

  88. James says:

    I said that article was drivel, hardly abuse. I didn’t say Vermaelen was “crap” either, why do people have to twist comments to back their own views?Vermaelen is a good defender, but no more than that. Wenger keeps telling us Arsenal are good enough to win the Premier League and Champions League, you don’t do that with “good” defenders or good players, you do that with great players. Wenger has lost the plot and doesn’t know how to win anymore, and worst of all doesn’t show any ambition to win either. If you look at the squad right now it’s 100% obvious Arsenal will win nothing this season except perhaps a minor cup if they get a lucky draw. Will Wenger but the GK, CB, DM Arsenal desperately needs? He’ll buy one if we’re lucky, because he always falls short and his defensive coaching is non-existent. The back five he inherited from George Graham helped him win things, that was extended with Sol Campbell… but now they’ve all gone he hasn’t a clue.

  89. 26may1989 says:

    Alex, I agree that bringing in another solid CB is vital. But as a point of information, while Jeffers definitely flopped after his time with us, Cygan had a good few years in La Liga, Pennant is playing there now and Boa Morte has of course been playing PL football since leaving us. So only one of your examples has actually ended up playing lower league football.

    George, you seriously think the club (or any club) should buy a player like Ozil just in case Fabregas goes? Sounds like the Man City way of running a football club, i.e. spend lots of money to create a situation where there are lots of frustrated players not getting game time.

    Your complaints are the routine, predictable complaints about us not having won anything for the last five seasons – but you make absolutely no account for the fact that the club has built a new stadium in that time, taking on a huge debt that, if finances were mismanaged, could have destroyed the club for years to come. Wenger has worked within the confines of the stadium project and has done a brilliant job, getting us to a CL Final and having two serious cracks at the title in that time, as well as keeping us in CL football. If you want to see how not to do things, look at Valencia, who were in the Spanish and European elite but whose finances were destroyed and are now very much a selling club. We are now emerging from the restrictions of debt, and over the coming years we should be able to return to spending money in a serious way, but the last few years has been about managing the debt, and the fact that Wenger has kept us at the level we’re at is a huge achievement in its own right.

    Of course there have been duds in Wenger’s recruitment over his 13 years in charge, though I think you meant to refer to Chris Wreh rather than his cousin George Weah, who Wenger discovered and who happened to become, at his peak, the world’s best footballer. Your slip only underlines how wrong you are. Just point me to a single manager who has a recruitment record that doesn’t include failures.

    And I love you having a go at Matt for being personal after saying I haven’t watched football for over 20 years! Pots, kettles??!

  90. truegooner says:

    Peaches I know stats arent everything but when someone wants to call players lazy they should at least be able to back up their assurtion, as it happens its a load of nonsense and now hes changing it to not being good enough

  91. Is Benzema still at Real Madrid – that was a good move for him wasn’t it, how much football did he play?

    I hate these big teams that just collect players – if Real Madrid hadn’t come calling for Benzema maybe he would have come to us but then we wouldn’t have signed the ‘hair gel king’

  92. truegooner says:

    There arent many bigger named players than Thierry who was temprimental and Wenger handled him

  93. JonJon says:

    james..

    TV is a great defender..id go as far to say that him and gallas where the bast CB’s in europe last season..

    but the rest of the side let them down..we cant defend as a team and certain individuals who play regular are at fualt for that..

    there were times last season tv and gallas where marking 3 players cos the fb’s and midfielders dont get back as well has having a keeper whos gloves are sponsored by flora..

    they did well to only conceed 41 goals or whatever..it should have been 70..

    in a team defensively organised properly TV will stand out..but not if he has kos almunia diaby and denilson alongside him

  94. JonJon says:

    true gooner

    but wenger made him..its easy to handle a player youve made..like cesc..he wants to go but wenger made him so he wont disrespect him

    AA doesnt give a shit..he joined arsenal to win trophies and not play for 4th every year with average players.. he kicks off becuase hes unhappy and the fact he made a name for himself before arsenal means wenger doesnt know how to handle him..

  95. 26may1989 says:

    Peaches, isn’t Benzema going to prison with Ribery??

  96. irishgunner says:

    Peaches – he could be in a jail cell soon although i doubt it will probably escape with a “your a naughty boy” and a fine.

    He’s a fine talent is Benzema, Higuain really stole his place from him last season – deservedly may I add.

  97. JonJon says:

    true gooner

    im sorry..denilson is the best midfielder in the world..his workrate is phenominal and his speed his second to none..diaby is a monster that glides up and down the pitch and these players have been instrumental in us winning trohies the last few years..

    barca and real come in for them every year and we are lucky weve hung onto them for so long

    that better??

  98. I love you JonJon, you always say the same as me :P

    What did Benzema and Ribery do? Is it clean, can you mention it on the site?

  99. dandan says:

    Hi 26th it is another truth of the blogging world that experience will often be called lack of ambition by those with limited experience but high hopes.
    Patience as required in recent years whilst as you rightfully point out the stadium project has been completed is hard if you are in an environment like education or at work where the verbal is all based around winning.

    Thus my eldest son a city fan is giving my youngest a Liverpool fan so much stick at present to make up for what he calls the years of hurt.

    He also says should city win the league this year I had better leave the country, he has a life time of hurt to dispense on me LOL

  100. Rasp says:

    peaches,

    They had liaisons with under age ‘ladies of the night’ :roll:

  101. 26may1989 says:

    Peaches, so long as we can mention footballers having sex with under-age prostitutes, we can discuss what Benzema and Robery are alleged to have done.

  102. Wow, I didn’t know, nobody tells me anything :(

  103. JonJon says:

    they got caught kiddy fiddling so im lead to beleive..

    footballer or not thats a prison sentance if proved guilty..

    its just proving it isnt it.

  104. dandan – fingers crossed he never gets to dispense his hurt against you :lol:

  105. irishgunner says:

    It was all over the news Peaches….Govou is involved too

  106. 26may1989 says:

    DD, you’re a better man than me – I love my kids but if one of them were a City fan right now, I don’t think I’d respond well. I live in hope that they will crash and burn, hopefully ending up several divisions down for a long time to come. Apologies to your son, I’m sure he’s great in all other respects…..

  107. dandan says:

    The lady in Question did not look under age in any way,believe me, so i think it will be fines not prison.

  108. dandan says:

    LOL 26 and peaches thank you but I am not above changing the locks and telephone numbers LOL

  109. JonJon says:

    dandan

    i hear what your saying mate..patience is something weve become accustomed to over recent years and i think the majority of gooners have stuck with the team

    what gets me is that a few weeks ago wenger said its all over now and the shackles have been lifted..we are financially stronger than we have ever been and we will get who we need..

    then he sells dudu lets 4 CBs go and gets a striker on a free and pays 8-10 mil for a cb whos never played at the top level..

    not too convincing of you ask me..

  110. Well I don’t know where I was when the story broke – not paying attention obviously :oops:

    irish – someone on your other site has written an article about Sagna spelt Sanga in the headline :oops: :oops: :oops:

  111. dandan says:

    Jonjon Patience has five weeks to run.

  112. irishgunner says:

    Peaches – :lol: Have you not heard of Sanga? He’s Sagna long lost twin….

  113. 26may1989 says:

    JonJon, I believe Ribery admitted it but has put forward that well known and often successful defence of “she looked older and I didn’t know”. Graham Rix anyone?

  114. JonJon – I reckon Rasp will be the next one to declare his love for you as you’ve just repeated his mantra

    ‘then he sells dudu lets 4 CBs go and gets a striker on a free and pays 8-10 mil for a cb whos never played at the top level..’

    or similar words to the same effect :)

  115. dandan says:

    Peaches worry not, Christmas will come early for Rasp, in the next fortnight actually.

  116. Rasp says:

    :lol: dandan,

    As you well know, I am not anti-Arsène … we go back a long way. I know him well enough to be pretty sure that we are not going to be signing a big name CB.

    The plain truth is that ‘business Arsenal’ comes before ‘football Arsenal’

  117. Rasp says:

    The prospect of either Gallas or even Silvestre (aaaarrrrggghhhh!!!!) coming back grows every day. I’d be more than happy to see Gallas back next season.

  118. dandan says:

    Rasp. Of course you are an AW man and I honestly think you are wrong a centre back from outside will join the club, lets bet your house this time

  119. Thats tough talking dandan

  120. Rasp says:

    dandan, we may well sign a CB from outside the club, but it won’t be a ‘Mertesacker, Hangeland or Jagielka’ if we do ……. and I’ll bet London’s house on that (its worth a lot more tham mine!)

  121. irishgunner says:

    Yes lets’ bet Rasp’s house

  122. 26may1989 says:

    Am with DD, there will be a CB signing (and a GK signing). Am hoping the resurrection of the Cahill rumour wasn’t complete nonsense.

    Having just completed 10 months of construction work, I’m not betting my house on anything though….

  123. Kipmonster says:

    I propose that Arsenal fans World wide post letters once a week for the next four weeks to UEFA & FIFA complaining about Barcelona FC’s ‘tapping up’ of Cesc Fabregas. Also post a letter just once to Arsenal FC requesting that they formally complain to UEFA & FIFA. I have drawn up 3 template letters that I will email to willing participants. All you need to do is type in your own Name & Address before printing off & posting. Momentum will be boosted by you forwarding the email to every one of your Arsenal FC fan family & friends, encouraging them to participate.
    The aim of repetitive letters is to create an Admin headache for UEFA & FIFA with thousands of letters received from all over the world & display the strength of feeling from Arsenal FC fans. The purpose of the single letter to Arsenal FC is again to display the strength of feeling from us fans.
    My email address for this campaign from where I will email you the letter templates is …….. ArsenalFansHateBarcelonaFC@gmail.com

  124. tommystout says:

    anyone being reading the http://www.gunnerblog.com series on ready or not – well today they have done the “chezzer” one, the one i’ve been looking forward to.
    Its worth a read for the brentford fans point of view and whether or not he could be arsenal no.1 this season.

  125. tommystout says:

    if we dont sign a keeper then i say give him or manonne a go!

  126. JonJon says:

    dandan..

    i’ll tell you why im not as positive..

    cast your mind back to 2008..we had a massive adebayor saga and fismann said wenger could have 30mil

    we let diarra, gilberto, flamini and hleb go and dudu and rosicky were returning from long term injury..

    wenger bought nasri, a 17 year old kid from cardiff and got someone nobody has ever heard of on a free and told us we were ready..we were in trouble that year and just made it to 4th after spending over half the season 6th 7th..

    now its 2010..weve had a massive cesc saga,wenger said he can compete with chelsea and weve let gallas, sol, senderos silvestre and dudu go, JD is returning from longterm injury and wengers got another freebie and another lad who has never played at the top level.

    sounds familiar doesnt it..

  127. dandan says:

    Sky Are saying Arsenal simply refuse to negotiate on Cesc

  128. dandan says:

    JonJon let us agree to differ although we could put your house up as a bet if you like

  129. Rasp says:

    BTW, the 17 year old kid from Cardiff will be a really great player for us in the near future ;)

  130. Tom says:

    What is anti-football?

    When a team has no chance of winning pretty, they must do what they can to get a point or three.

    It’s embarrassing that Arsenal/Wenger blames dirty tactics when they struggle against lesser teams.

    Wenger has chosen a squad of midgets. It’s his choice.

    It’s actually 3 years since Wenger ran out of excuses and promised silverware.

    But modern day man forgets and forgives. If I was to make a list of Wenger-quotes from 2005 till today, Wenger would really look like a fanatical liar.

  131. irishgunner says:

    Tom – There is no pride in playing like a Stoke etc its not football its just crap.

    I know you don’t mean it that far but its not football, we’re meant to be a football club.

  132. ArsenalForever says:

    Truegooner,
    I see where you’re coming from, and ur right, but I think you’ve missed the point. Denilson has great passing stats (sideways), and I’m sure his distance-covered stats would be great too, but I am not an anorak so you cant expect us all to calculate these. I can only judge based on what I see out there on the pitch, and in my view players like Denilson and Diaby do not make enough of an effort to protect the defence. That is their primary job. They do not have the important DM qualiites of tracking back, tackling, intercepting and making clearances, in the same way that Darren Fletcher, Mascherano, De Jong or even a Flamini or Ray Parlour did for us in the past!

    Having said that, I think the biggest problem is that we never seem to have a gameplan for the opposition. Never was this more apparent than against barcelona, where AW assumed our style of play would work against an open, attacking side. Except that Barca had a gameplan to press high, and their work rate was amazing. This is also why we lost away at manure, chelski, the spuds and man city (all the other top 5 rivals). This is what AW needs to address as some of these defeats were simply embarrasing…

    All of this would be solved if AW would learn to manage our expectations better and say we are aiming for top 4 rather than the title. It was clear to most neutrals that we are only a few quality players away from challenging Chelski and manure, but we never buy those “proven” players and AW seems to think that we are already better than them! This is why he is ridiculed in the media, there is no witch hunt… It’s the same reaction other teams’ fans give when they hear Bendtner claim to be one of the best strikers in the world and are then subjected to watching his woeful first touch and clumsy stepovers..

  133. kelsey says:

    Well done dandam.Your post produced a diverse reaction which it was always going to do .

    There is a definite split amongst the Arsenal fans, as to us being woefully understrength or not.

    Some good debate on here today.

    I personally think we will still buy a CB and Schwarzer is the best we may get in the keeper stakes.

    However as you say, still a while to go, and once City have bought two full teams at an average wage od over 100K a week each, we and the others can pick up the scraps.

    I have a gut feeling that improvement in our squad is not so far away as many think, and a two horse race may well develop into a 6 horse race, which equates to losing 7 or even 8 games and still winning the title.

    My main concern as it is with others is the amount of goals we give away and as mentioned above the midfield are just as guilty as the defenders and sometimes the keeper.

    The key to the forth coming season is not the personal but perhaps altering our style of play more dramatically when the occasion arises.

  134. dandan says:

    Tom all this nonsense about Wenger being a Liar will stop this season, this is the season when the tax man will try in every way possible to take a number of clubs to the wall, I don’t mean into administration I mean finished, gone, out of business, then the panic will start to set in and Arsene and the Board will be given the credit they are due.
    You have a viable club, soon you will have a winning club. Be happy you could be a fan of Portsmouth, Liverpool or any number of other clubs who are on the brink.

  135. dandan says:

    Hi Kelsey how did the bowls go did you clean up

  136. truegooner says:

    arsenalforever I dont disagree what I hate to read are these pathetic attempts by some to slur the players when they cant backup what they are saying, I dont believe that any of our players are lazy and I also dont believe that Wenger would put up with them if they were. Its clear to see that the players have upmost respect for Wenger, I am not going to comment on whether or not Denilson and Diaby are doing their primary job as I have not been party to the teamtalks, yes losing to close rivals isnt nice but do you think that Wenger thinks differently?

  137. kelsey says:

    Yes dandan, we beat our closest rivals this morning, but had already won the league yesterday.Time for a siesta, see you later :)

  138. 26may1989 says:

    “It’s 3 years since Wenger ran out of excuses and promised silverware” – that pretty much sums it up, there are some Arsenal fans who are not fans of football or the sporting challenge it presents at all, they just want the reflected glory of being associated with a guaranteed winner. Sporting success can’t be promised, that should be obvious.

  139. 26may1989 says:

    And dandan, I completely agree re financial reality being about to hit a number of clubs.

  140. GunnerN5 says:

    dandan: I agree that it’s headlines that draw ones attention but it’s content that gets comments – and you choose the content that’s sure to maximize responses.

    For my part, I, like most Arsenal supporters scan the headlines every day in anticipation of transfer news but I only believe it (or comment on it) when I read it on Arsenal.com.

    The transfer business is very tricky, it’s so, so easy to have 20/20 hindsight but it’s nigh on impossible to have 20/20 foresight.

    Even if AW has tracked the players he wants how can he ever know if the club will sell, if the player wants to join us, if the transfer price can be agreed, or if the player salary can be agreed. Even assuming all is agreed then how can he be sure that the player will perform at the level required in the EPL. The answer is that even with all the tracking and statistical data on a player being right it may still, and often does, turn out that he’s a misfit.
    My money, is, and always has been on AW to get it right more times than he gets it wrong.

    Having supported through so many fruitless and barren years watching us play mediocre mid table dross I am more than prepared to believe in him way more than I am in back room managers who possess 20/20 hindsight – and only seek glory.

    Cheers to the believers.

  141. 26may1989 says:

    GunnerN5, I really wish younger Arsenal fans would read the stuff you write and take notice.

  142. irishgunner says:

    ” GunnerN5, I really wish younger Arsenal fans would read the stuff you write and take notice.” – I disagree with this bigtime. I’m one of the “younger” Arsenal fans and from where I’m sitting some of the older fans are the worst, calling for Wenger’s head because he’s not winning “stuff.” Its not all the young crowd you know.

  143. ArsenalForever says:

    Truegooner, spot on mate – couldnt agree more with regards to ppl slurring players and respect for AW.

    I would hate to think that Wenger thinks differently but it seems that some players don’t get dropped after a bad performance. I would love to see someone like Scott Parker in our midfield, I think he would set an example to the whole team of what it truly means to play for Arsenal!

    Anyway, keep up the positivity – I’m not part of the “Arsene Knows” brigade as I think the club is more important than any individual, but I also havent forgotten what he’s done for the club and I’m holding out for some more signings that will win us a trophy this season!

  144. Rasp says:

    Great comment ArsenalForever.

    I have to support irish here. It is too simplistic to brand all young supporters as impatient/spoilt etc.

    I’m sure more young than old have that viewpoint, but apart from that youngster irish :P, my kids are probably more level headed than I am as regards our buying policy – it’s down to the temperament of the individual as much as anything.

  145. Rasp says:

    Hi 26may,

    Thanks for the article – its a very good read.

    We may put up some reactions to tonight’s friendly tomorrow, but would certainly like to publish it later in the week if that’s OK with you.

  146. irishgunner says:

    “but apart from that youngster irish” :lol: only for another few months, then I turn 25 and its all over mate…

  147. Mik says:

    @peaches Arsene said two or three days ago in an interview on Arsenal.com that we are still looking for a CB. And apparently Arsenal are also truly inquiring other teams about goalkeepers.

    and thanks for your post Dandan. I always enjoy reading something positive.

    I remember last year how not one single newspaper reported anything positive about Vermaelen. He was called average by all those self proclaimed experts. Nothing special, etc. Anyone who now claims that “but he had CL experience, bla bla” is just fooling himself. Nobody was talking about Vermaelen’s great experience when we signed him. People just try to find reasons why they can rant and whine about Wenger’s latest signing.

  148. Rasp says:

    I shouldn’t worry irish, kelsey could be your grandad :oops:

  149. tommystout says:

    after reading a couple of newcastle sites and comments it seems that the toon army are convinced that they are getting sol although they aint that excited about it.
    I’m convinced that we are going to be signing somebody if sol goes, any other outcome just wouln’t make sense.
    So i think all this negetivity may have to go on hold for a while – we may all be chirping for nothing.

  150. irishgunner says:

    He’ll love hearing that Rasp :lol:

  151. Rasp says:

    Hi tommy,

    Certainly Sol signing for toon must increase the pressure on AW to make another defensive signing for the Arsenal. As I said earlier, it is not beyond the bounds of possibility that we could re-sign Gallas, or god forbid, Silvestre!

  152. tommystout says:

    but they cant rasp…. RVP aint gonna give up his new no.10 :-)

  153. Rasp says:

    It’s alright irish, he’s having a kip in his hammock this afternoon :?

  154. dandan says:

    I think the word young is meant in an Arsenal support sense, others call them JCLs, many sit in the hospitality areas, whilst some on here have never been to a game.

    The advent of Sky TV and saturation football has also introduced people to the game, not only in this country but all round the world.
    Newer fans naturally want to see there team collect prizes but they are by no means alone,long in the tooth fans like Rasp are just as committed.

  155. Mik – I’m not complaining about the signing of Koscienly, my beef is that we’re letting 4 centre-backs go and have only so far signed one as a replacement.

    The season begins in just over 2 weeks …….. and at the moment Almunia may have to have a throat infection again.

    The centre-back and goal-keeper problems have been there since the season before last and yet again we’re not really addressing them.

    But I’ll be delighted if a couple of surprises are on their way ;)

  156. irishgunner says:

    Don’t even joke about Silvestre coming back…

  157. irish – we’ve got 7 teams in our league :)

    Come on guys – sign up for the Fantasy Football, mind you, you need about half an hour to do it :lol:

  158. irishgunner says:

    Ha ha it could do with being a bit bigger… who’s not joined up?

    We don’t do prizes apart from the prize of winning – actually the winner gets Rasp’s house.

  159. kelsey says:

    Funny how the subject changes when my name is mentioned :)

    I am NOW one of the more mature bloggers/authors on here but by no means the oldest.

    yes, irish, I most probably could be your grandfather, i worked over in Ireland when I was a wee lad who had his brains in his pants :)

  160. kelsey says:

    What is it about the north east. first Bent now Campbell, surely it can’t be the climate.

  161. Rasp says:

    I think you lot should just all move into my house – then you can tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about to my face :)

  162. irishgunner says:

    Kelsey – What did you work as?

  163. tommystout says:

    I’ll be entering a fantasy team, just waiting for Mertsaker and Stecklenberg to be listed as Arsenal players ;-)

  164. Rasp says:

    That really would be a fantasy tommy……

  165. Rasp says:

    Currently 2:1 to Spain in the U 19’s game, Bostock scored for England.

  166. James M. Munga says:

    its high time we should learn to be real funs of this wonderfull club Arsenal. Tell me of any coach in the premier league who is good enough like our good Profesor, who can go through times when you dont have money to buy and still manage to come out with good results. Finishing amongst the top four for the five seasons while restructuring is no joke. Let the profesor do his work.dont judge the body, this is football and not rugby. Laurent will make a good unbelievable partner to Thomas. Cesc is not big but bright.

  167. Rasp says:

    Welcome James,

    Certainly Arsene has worked miracles to keep us in the CL through the lean years. I think that during the same period, the emphasis of the club has also changed.

    A lot of supporters believed the news that we had money to spend implied we were intending to buy big. Personally, I don’t think that was ever the plan. Unfortunately the PR department’s ‘spin’ was taken literally and has fuelled a lot of discontent.

  168. dandan says:

    Have joined your league. If I dont win I will sulk

  169. irishgunner says:

    I’m going to win Dandan so consider second place your aim 8)

  170. irishgunner says:

    :lol: I’m going to look a proper twat after about three matchdays when I’m a 100 points behind everyone…

  171. Rasp says:

    I’m being a bit thick here :( Is there a fantasy league just for AA? I’ve clicked the link and it is asking me for a password etc…

  172. kelsey says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8859257.stm

    for those interested in finance, they just can’t afford cesc.

  173. irishgunner says:

    You need to sign into it first rasp – i.e. username and password, set up a team etc and then go to leagues, “add/create leagues” and enter the code: 165907-78746

  174. Rasp says:

    Thanks irish, can you set up my video recorder for me too please :roll:

  175. irishgunner says:

    Ha ha Rasp :)

    I’ve just downloaded Bergkamp’s goal against Newcastle and put it on my ipod so I can watch it whenever I feel the need. Just getting Bobby Pires’ one against Southampton now.

  176. 26may1989 says:

    Rasp, all good, happy for you to publish it whenever it suits.

    And Irish, apologies for my old fogey rubbish – at least we can agree that the Bergy goal vs Geordies and Bobby vs Soton are two of the best goals we’re ever likely to see. God I miss Dennis……

  177. irishgunner says:

    26May – Ah its not really rubbish but its too much of a general statement.

  178. Fatgingergooner says:

    Great post. Can’t wait to watch the Emirates Cup with the ‘not good enough’ squad we have, especially as I will be getting more sun than a Ginger should have in a lifetime in sunny Zante.

    The fact is that there are more teams that can win trophies this year than ever before. There must be 4 or 5 teams that can win the league this year ( if Harry is to be believed! ) aswell as a number of sides that can win the Champions League ( Inter and Bayern weren’t fancied by many last year! ).

    The point is that if we are lucky enough to stay relatively injury free then we have just as good a chance as anyone else. If AW signs a player or two more during the last whole MONTH ( it hasn’t ended yet losers!!! ) of the window, then we will be even better prepared.

    It’s about time we put an end to this whinging n moaning that has become so common amongst the Arsenal supporters, and get behind the team.

    In an age where football has become a sport for prima-donnas who love nothing more than to dive, moan at the refs and collect shitloads of money for the privilege, I find it more and more difficult to watch the game. The world cup was an embarasment, rounded off with a final that encompassed all that is wrong with the modern game. Cheating, moaning, diving, then the cheek to blame the ref when things go wrong.

    The only thing that makes watching it worthwhile is the fact that my beloved team mix this modern day horseshit with some of the most fantastic football you are likely to see.

    I cannot wait for the start of the new season, and no matter what age, nationality or experience the Arsenal eleven has on that opening day, I know that under the current manager, we have as much chance of winning trophies this season as anyone else. C’mon you Gunners!!!!!!!!!

  179. Goonbag says:

    Great Post. and at last some sense….

    To many pesimistic blogs out there that write for hit’s not for Arsenal fans.

    Keep it up.

  180. Shhhhhhhhhh I’m only whispering it, but theres talk of Mertesacker ;)

  181. Rasp says:

    New post ……

  182. SPECTRUM says:

    So Dan Dan.You think that we should leave our transfer activity till the last two weeks of the window ? When other clubs will have already signed, or will be signing, the best players at that time, also ? When competition will be fiercest, as the clubs scrap for what’s left ? Wouldn’t it have been wiser to know who you want, and be ready to pounce,paying a large fee (if required) to secure your man, before anyone else does i.e. July 1st or thereabouts ?
    By my estimation, we need FOUR experienced (quality) players still. TWO centrebacks, (now Campbell is gone),a goalkeeper ( need I say more ? )and a tough defensive midfielder.Can you honestly see Wenger signing FOUR more during the REST of the transfer window, let alone the LAST TWO WEEKS? Face it – it just ain’t gonna happen.It’s just another case of ….”In Arsene we rust”.

  183. SPECTRUM says:

    GunnerN5 – All the comments you made about the potential hazards in negotiating transfers….. surely all this applies to any other club as well.Yet most other clubs don’t seem to have much trouble deciding who they want, manage to do business quickly,and get the deal signed, sealed and delivered.
    But strangely, we at Arsenal seem to often be involved in long, drawn out protracted negotiations.Often we leave it very late, so late we often miss out completely.Wonder why that is ? Could it have anything to do with money, or the lack of it, being offered, perhaps ? And who, exactly is our chief negotiator? Could it be Mr. Wenger himself? Just a thought.
    “In Arsene we rust”.

  184. Bobby says:

    Boy, does jon jon have a serious case of the periods. He seems like a manic depressive. Go and get laid if you can son, maybe you will smile again.

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